Texans approve gay marriage ban

[stargazer99]

Can't say that I'm shocked, but I am incredibly disgusted, especially that early returns showed 74% supporting the amendment. :( :distress:

We actually received a recorded message from Gov. Perry yesterday, urging us to vote for this ban. D*CK!

My biggest fear (and the fear of most Texans opposed to this amendment) is that employers (esp. government employers) will start denying domestic partner benefits and that any contracts (living wills, etc.) will be considered void, because the language of the amendment is so vague, stating that "anything resembling or identical to marriage" won't be recognized.
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http://www.khou.com/news/local/politics/stories/khou051108_gj_prop2passing.3fb98f7e.html

Texans approve gay marriage ban

08:22 PM CST on Tuesday, November 8, 2005

Dallas Morning News

With a measure to outlaw gay marriage passing easily, Texas on Tuesday became the 19th U.S. state to make the ban part of its constitution.

The area’s other attention-generating issue, a city of Dallas proposition to strengthen the mayor’s powers, was failing by the narrowest of margins. With 26,584 votes counted, the difference was less than 300 votes.

Both measures appeared to be fueling strong voter turnout, according to officials in the Dallas, Collin, Denton and Tarrant county elections offices. Dallas County Elections Administrator Bruce Sherbet said somewhere around 16 percent of registered voters cast ballots. Statewide turnout was expected to exceed the 12.2 percent recorded in 2003.

Known as Proposition 2, the Texas constitutional amendment defines marriage as between a man and a woman and bars the state and its political subdivisions from creating or recognizing "any legal status identical or similar to marriage."

In early returns, 74 percent of voters statewide said they supported the gay-marriage ban, while 26 were opposed. In Dallas County, the margin was a bit narrower, with 69 percent in favor, and 31 percent opposed.

The state's 2003 Defense of Marriage Act already prohibits marriage between same-sex couples. But Prop 2’s supporters, including conservative state legislators and Christian leaders, insisted that Texans must amend their state constitution to ban gay marriage so that "activist" judges can't challenge and overturn anti-gay marriage laws as some courts have in other states.

Opponents have said that the amendment’s ambiguous wording would jeopardize gay couples' partnership benefits and legal arrangements on everything from property issues to end-of-life questions.

If Dallas’ Proposition 1 passes, the mayor would hire and fire the city manager and craft the budget with the manager. The mayor's salary would double to $120,000. And the council would have the authority to fire the manager with a simple majority and hire a budget oversight officer to balance the mayor's fiscal power.

In May, Dallas voters rejected a proposal to give even more power to the mayor. Council members promised voters that they would offer an alternative proposal, which became Prop 1, as an enticement to get them to turn down the May ballot initiative. Since then, about half of the council has mobilized to defeat this referendum as well.

Even Mayor Laura Miller, who says she supports the measure, hasn’t gone out of her way to rally on its behalf.

Dallas voters did appear to be supporting Proposition 14, a measure that would allow the city to sell $23.8 million in bonds to build a new homeless assistance center. The city wants to build the shelter on the southeastern edge of downtown.

In Tarrant County, the hottest issue is in White Settlement, where voters were strongly opposed to changing the city's 19th century name to West Settlement. In early voting, 94 percent were against the change.

Across North Texas, voters also were going to the polls to decide on bond issues and charter amendments as well as choose city council members and school board trustees. Voters across Texas were deciding eight other constitutional amendments in addition to the gay-marriage issue.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

It's sad. :distress:

But I can't say I'm surprised either.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I'm not shocked to the least bit..it was more shocking when many more states that were not so predictable as Texas did the very same thing last yr

Chris

[BombaySapphire3]

About the percentages I would have anticipated for a place like Texass.

[markolas]

Well, you can't say it passed because of me. :)

I'm sure it failed in Travis County, which is a small comfort to me. I really need to start making plans to leave the state, though (and possibly the country :lol: ).

[ontheEdgeof17]

Good. Gays should be banned from the earth to live in the depths of hell for all eternity. Sodomy lovers.

[dissention]

No way. Get out! I don't believe it. A liberal state like that voted to ban gay marriage? Next you'll tell me that Pat Robertson doesn't like Bill Clinton, silly.

:laugh:

[stargazer99]

No way. Get out! I don't believe it. A liberal state like that voted to ban gay marriage? Next you'll tell me that Pat Robertson doesn't like Bill Clinton, silly.

:laugh:

Like I said, I'm not at all surprised. But it makes me miss Chicago all the more. The culture shock of moving here has been too much for me to bear. :(

[macfanken]

Well, you can't say it passed because of me. :)

I'm sure it failed in Travis County, which is a small comfort to me. I really need to start making plans to leave the state, though (and possibly the country :lol: ).

Yeah, get out if you can... although I've heard Austin is a cool place. As for the ban... i have no plans to ever live, visit or travel through Texas... let them have their right-wing, backwards hate-state... i'll stick to the places where i'm wanted or at least tolerated.

[markolas]

Yeah, get out if you can... although I've heard Austin is a cool place. As for the ban... i have no plans to ever live, visit or travel through Texas... let them have their right-wing, backwards hate-state... i'll stick to the places where i'm wanted or at least tolerated.

I wish Travis County could just secede from the rest of the state. That would solve everything. :laugh:

[stargazer99]

Well, you can't say it passed because of me. :)

Me neither! :)

I'm sure it failed in Travis County, which is a small comfort to me. I really need to start making plans to leave the state, though (and possibly the country :lol: ).

I'm very sure it passed overwhelmingly here in Collin County. A year ago, I was ready to pack up and leave the country. But at least I lived in a Blue state... now I'm here because of my husband's work instead. I'm still keeping the moving out of the country option open, though, if things don't turn around. ;) Fortunately, it looks like other elections are turning out much better -- VA and NJ ! So maybe SOME things are turning around for the better! :)

[amber]

I wish Travis County could just secede from the rest of the state. That would solve everything. :laugh:

I was just thinking I probably wouldn't cry if all of Texas seceded. Except for the ledgies.

[wondergirl9847]

We actually received a recorded message from Gov. Perry yesterday, urging us to vote for this ban.

I just let the answering machine get it because I was like "999-999-9999, who the hell's number is that?" LOL Then, I picked it up and hung it up.

I'm a Texan...I didn't vote, I've never voted for anything in my life. Don't judge me! :mad:

:laugh:

Anyways....the White Settlement thing is so wierd. I live like 5 miles away from White Settlement and my dad works in WS. I don't see why anyone would think about it, it's just a name.

[GateandGarden]

:( :( :( :( :(

[snowman]

Good. Gays should be banned from the earth to live in the depths of hell for all eternity. Sodomy lovers.

But maybe there's a loving God • • And that may be a foolish thought • Or maybe there is a God • And I have never prayed a lot • But maybe there's a loving God

[Brwn_eyes0511]

But maybe there's a loving God • • And that may be a foolish thought • Or maybe there is a God • And I have never prayed a lot • But maybe there's a loving God

You are either making fun of me!

Or you like Sara Groves too.

[gldstwmn]

The problem with Texas doesn't lie with the voters, it's with the redistricting. If you can get that mess straightened out, you can start to have some semblance of balance there again. Until then, you're pretty much f*cked like Florida.:o :sorry:

[JazmenFlowers]

it's sad, but very true

in the words of Stevie Nicks

[Livia]

I've never had to stand in line to vote as long as I did today...of course, I voted against the amendment...as well as over 60% of the voters in MY county (Travis), where Austin is...and remember, we also elected Kerry.

Austin: We're NOT Texas :thumbsup:

[estranged4life]

Sounds identical to Oklahoma this past November.



Only good news I saw this day was those cross bearing, homophobic, Topeka Kansas Westboro (sic) Baptist Church ass-poptarts get hammered at a local funeral for a fallen Oklahoma soldier.

They bragged their whole congregation would appear, yet only 3 members showed and left after 25 minutes....The 200+ bikers & hundreds of Oklahomans let this disturbed bible-humpers know that **** doesnt fly here.

Now their congregation is headed to Seattle to protest at some type of gay pride parade...Hammer their ass Seattle, hammer the living f**k out 'em.

[Richard B]

Like I said, I'm not at all surprised. But it makes me miss Chicago all the more. The culture shock of moving here has been too much for me to bear. :(
No offense...but I found Chicago very racist. Now keep in mind I was born and raised in San Fran, so Chicago was culture shock for me. Glad I moved away...rather quickly at that.

As for Texas and this ban. No big surprise.

[macfanken]

Sounds identical to Oklahoma this past November.



Only good news I saw this day was those cross bearing, homophobic, Topeka Kansas Westboro (sic) Baptist Church ass-poptarts get hammered at a local funeral for a fallen Oklahoma soldier.

They bragged their whole congregation would appear, yet only 3 members showed and left after 25 minutes....The 200+ bikers & hundreds of Oklahomans let this disturbed bible-humpers know that **** doesnt fly here.

Now their congregation is headed to Seattle to protest at some type of gay pride parade...Hammer their ass Seattle, hammer the living f**k out 'em.


For real?! :shocked: They won't be welcome here at all, that's for sure... i DARE them to protest in my neighborhood. :lol: Holy ****... it would be hilaaaaaarious... they'd need a police escort to get out alive. Seriously.

[estranged4life]

For real?! :shocked: They won't be welcome here at all, that's for sure... i DARE them to protest in my neighborhood. :lol: Holy ****... it would be hilaaaaaarious... they'd need a police escort to get out alive. Seriously.

They are heading to Seattle, Which is going to be entertaining to say the least...

I hope to see those Westboro Bastards get their just (And long overdue) desert in Seattle.

[macfanken]

They are heading to Seattle, Which is going to be entertaining to say the least...

I hope to see those Westboro Bastards get their just (And long overdue) desert in Seattle.


Thanks for the heads-up... i'll let you know what happens.

[dissention]

Has anyone actually read the amendment?

Article I, Texas Constitution, (The Bill of Rights) is amended by adding Section 32 to read as follows:

(a) MARRIAGE in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.

(b) THIS STATE or a political subdivision of THIS STATE MAY NOT CREATE OR RECOGNIZE ANY LEGAL STATUS IDENTICAL or similar to MARRIAGE.

:lol: The idiots should have added "except as defined in (a)" to (b).

[Livia]

That was part of the controversy - and the strong campaign by Democrats to convince people to vote AGAINST it...that wording implies that ANY sort of marriage, even one involving one man and one woman would be illegal. It was even more confusing on the ballot...

And did you know there's no basement in the Alamo? :D

We had a KKK rally here over the weekend, they were supporting the amendment, obviously - there are members of the media now suing the City of Austin for the cops forcing them to keep their distance from the sheet-heads.

[Johnny Stew]

Eh, no big surprise. Let the discriminations continue to build... it'll just make the inevitable uprising an even bigger vindication. :)

[rbs3676]

As a gay man, I voted. Everyone that is close to me voted. But this didn't come as a surprise to anyone. :sorry:


rbs

[jbrownsjr]

ahhhh christianity and politics at it's finest...

while other hostile nations are plotting to attack the free world, we spend millions of dollars and energies worrying about who marries who...

Jesus loves you as long as you're not gay, black, or democrat.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

ahhhh christianity and politics at it's finest...

while other hostile nations are plotting to attack the free world, we spend millions of dollars and energies worrying about who marries who...

Jesus loves you as long as you're not gay, black, or democrat.

Well he loves gays and blacks...


but democrats...IDK?! ;) :xoxo: :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

Well he loves gays and blacks...
but democrats...IDK?! ;) :xoxo: :lol:Well, Jesus was a long-haired hippie liberal. ;)

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Well, Jesus was a long-haired hippie liberal. ;)

Different than the moonbat liberals of America! :laugh: :xoxo:

[SuzeQuze]

Different than the moonbat liberals of America! :laugh: :xoxo:

:laugh: You wish! He's our man.

The way to combat bigotry is to argue the other side. For example, a white supremacist, as an exercise, arguing why blacks are their equal. The problem is I don't think they would willingly do this.

Ken, get 'em in Seattle! That organization is horrible.

[markolas]

Eh, no big surprise. Let the discriminations continue to build... it'll just make the inevitable uprising an even bigger vindication. :)

Well, if Bush manages to nominate another Supreme Court justice, that might not happen for another 30-40 years. And if the Republicans manage to push through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it won't ever happen...:distress:

I just hope John Paul Stevens lives another 3 years.

[SuzeQuze]

Well, if Bush manages to nominate another Supreme Court justice, that might not happen for another 30-40 years. And if the Republicans manage to push through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it won't ever happen...:distress:

I just hope John Paul Stevens lives another 3 years.

If we get a progressive cable channel that would help get information out there. I hope that happens very soon.

[stargazer99]

Has anyone actually read the amendment?

Article I, Texas Constitution, (The Bill of Rights) is amended by adding Section 32 to read as follows:

(a) MARRIAGE in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.

(b) THIS STATE or a political subdivision of THIS STATE MAY NOT CREATE OR RECOGNIZE ANY LEGAL STATUS IDENTICAL or similar to MARRIAGE.

:lol: The idiots should have added "except as defined in (a)" to (b).

There's been quotes all over the papers down here from legal professors, etc., picking apart this language. (b) can be interpreted in ways that would nullify ALL marriages, IMO, and the opinion of many in the legal profession who have tried to interpret this language. Many of them say the language does more damage than the bans that have been passed in other states.

[stargazer99]

We had a KKK rally here over the weekend, they were supporting the amendment, obviously - there are members of the media now suing the City of Austin for the cops forcing them to keep their distance from the sheet-heads.

I read one of the best letters to the editor in the Dallas Morning News last week, regarding the KKK rally. The writer said "I hope that everyone voting for the amendment will join the KKK, and they can all get a good look at each other."

[snowman]

You are either making fun of me!

Or you like Sara Groves too.

My son has this CD. He left it in my car. I was on a long road and listened to it last week. This song caught my attention. These lyrics, I thought, were appropriate for this post.

I wasn't making fun of you and, yeah, I do kind of like her....

[stargazer99]

ahhhh christianity and politics at it's finest...

while other hostile nations are plotting to attack the free world, we spend millions of dollars and energies worrying about who marries who...

Jesus loves you as long as you're not gay, black, or democrat.

Yep. With all the problems in this country, making this a priority just shows what a f*cked up country we've become. As Jon Stewart said after last November's elections: "This is all because people are afraid of 2 dudes kissing!"

[Livia]

My boss (who used to be the Travis County Democrats' Chairman) just referred to Austin as the "island of sanity." I like that!

[dissention]

If we get a progressive cable channel that would help get information out there. I hope that happens very soon.

January of 2006, baby. :wavey:

[The Tower]

And if the Republicans manage to push through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it won't ever happen...:distress:
Meh. Constitutional amendments aren't something that's necessarily permanent. Prohibition was repealed. There will never be a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. Three quarters of the states have to ratify it- and that will never happen.

[SuzeQuze]

January of 2006, baby. :wavey:

So there's a plan? Who's involved? :woohoo:

[dissention]

So there's a plan? Who's involved? :woohoo:

I'm trying to find the link to the damned site, but all of my bookmarks mysteriously vanished overnight. :cool:

I know that it starts off on digital cable and satellite before possibly going to cable in '07.

[wondergirl9847]

How about an amendment that says marriage is between a man and woman...AND NOT A MISTRESS or an INTERN. They can stick THAT in their pipe and smoke it. We also need an amendment that says that people in positions of power cannot be corrupt, how about that?

Also, after watching The Colbert Repor and Keith Olbermann last night...how about an amendment keeping people from writing bear porn. EWWWW!!!!! :shocked:

[dissention]

Also, after watching The Colbert Repor and Keith Olbermann last night...how about an amendment keeping people from writing bear porn. EWWWW!!!!! :shocked:

Ha!! I posted excerpts from Libby's "The Apprentice" on my livejournal last week. That book is sick! Sex with bears, sex with deers, sex with family members, underage Asain hookers, etc. Sick bastard. I knew those schmucks were kinky, but ho****.

I'm just crossing my fingers that Shrub gets a blowjob so we can impeach his ass.

[SuzeQuze]

How about an amendment that says marriage is between a man and woman...AND NOT A MISTRESS or an INTERN. They can stick THAT in their pipe and smoke it. We also need an amendment that says that people in positions of power cannot be corrupt, how about that?

Also, after watching The Colbert Repor and Keith Olbermann last night...how about an amendment keeping people from writing bear porn. EWWWW!!!!! :shocked:

Oh god, I heard about that. And they think gay people are abhorrent.:rolleyes: Oy vez! Randi was talking about it the other day. She also played some of O'Reilley's audio novel about 2 young girls and their "activities" with a crack dealer. It was really gross! Even grosser because it is his voice. :shudder: PS, that was a literal shudder. Ewwwwwwww.

[SuzeQuze]

Ha!! I posted excerpts from Libby's "The Apprentice" on my livejournal last week. That book is sick! Sex with bears, sex with deers, sex with family members, underage Asain hookers, etc. Sick bastard. I knew those schmucks were kinky, but ho****.

I'm just crossing my fingers that Shrub gets a blowjob so we can impeach his ass.

Where's your Live Journal please?

[dissention]

Oh god, I heard about that. And they think gay people are abhorrent.:rolleyes: Oy vez! Randi was talking about it the other day. She also played some of O'Reilley's audio novel about 2 young girls and their "activities" with a crack dealer. It was really gross! Even grosser because it is his voice. :shudder: PS, that was a literal shudder. Ewwwwwwww.

Hey, baby, why don't you put down that pipe and get MINE up?

What's so disgusting about that audiobook is that it's HIS freaking voice. Ewwwww. :laugh:

[dissention]

Where's your Live Journal please?

http://www.livejournal.com/users/dissention_1/

Here's the Libby entry: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dissention_1/10321.html

[SuzeQuze]

Hey, baby, why don't you put down that pipe and get MINE up?

What's so disgusting about that audiobook is that it's HIS freaking voice. Ewwwww. :laugh:

Ugh! You didn't have to provide a quote! I have to go wash now! :lol:

[Pisces Queen]

I live in Fort Worth and I voted last night. I voted against the marriage bill. These red states are choking me to death. Oklahoma and Texas are both the same. Freaking hypocrites. I can't stand it and it makes me ashamed and sad for the people that this effects. I see no difference in same sex or different sex marriages. It's a union between two people that love each other. This discrimination makes me want to puke. It's OK to collect tax money from gays, let them pay property taxes and work with them but oh now don’t' let them have a relationship with another person that's recognized by the state. What is the big hang ups? Some people say oh those gays will take advantage of marriage. I say “oh you mean like the straight men that order a mail order bride?” They say that being gay is an abomination but was divorce looked upon the same way 30 years ago. I just don’t get it. But I voted and with that I know that I let me voice be heard.

[sparky]

I live in Fort Worth and I voted last night. I voted against the marriage bill. These red states are choking me to death. Oklahoma and Texas are both the same. Freaking hypocrites. I can't stand it and it makes me ashamed and sad for the people that this effects. I see no difference in same sex or different sex marriages. It's a union between two people that love each other. This discrimination makes me want to puke. It's OK to collect tax money from gays, let them pay property taxes and work with them but oh now don’t' let them have a relationship with another person that's recognized by the state. What is the big hang ups? Some people say oh those gays will take advantage of marriage. I say “oh you mean like the straight men that order a mail order bride?” They say that being gay is an abomination but was divorce looked upon the same way 30 years ago. I just don’t get it. But I voted and with that I know that I let me voice be heard.

I was in Oklahoma a while back, and flew into Dallas. When we drove back into Texas, the way we knew we had crossed the state line was that within 3 miles we passed a half dozen adult bookstores, a few gun shops, and innumerable billboards for strip joints. Real moral civilized folks there in Texas.

[Pisces Queen]

I was in Oklahoma a while back, and flew into Dallas. When we drove back into Texas, the way we knew we had crossed the state line was that within 3 miles we passed a half dozen adult bookstores, a few gun shops, and innumerable billboards for strip joints. Real moral civilized folks there in Texas.


I hear ya. Smut smut smut ~ not that it's a bad thing :rolleyes: but come-on poeple let's get real. How long is it going to take before this issue gets resolved and we start treating all people the same.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

My son has this CD. He left it in my car. I was on a long road and listened to it last week. This song caught my attention. These lyrics, I thought, were appropriate for this post.

I wasn't making fun of you and, yeah, I do kind of like her....

AWWW! Ok...thanks. I just didn't know. :sorry:

All Right Here is probably my fav. CD of hers...so you listened to a good one! "Maybe There's a Loving God" is wonderful (love the tribal beats). :D

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Meh. Constitutional amendments aren't something that's necessarily permanent. Prohibition was repealed. There will never be a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. Three quarters of the states have to ratify it- and that will never happen.

You beat me to it...:wavey:

Well said.

[DavidMn]

This is TEXAS after all. When I was in Houston for the Stevie show this summer and I was parking my car, some fellow noticed my rainbow triangle on the bumper and said rather rudely " HEY U GODAMN QUEER, WE DONT NEED UR KIND HERE."

[DavidMn]

Good. Gays should be banned from the earth to live in the depths of hell for all eternity. Sodomy lovers.It's nice to see someone has a sense of humor:laugh:

[DavidMn]

Sounds identical to Oklahoma this past November.



Only good news I saw this day was those cross bearing, homophobic, Topeka Kansas Westboro (sic) Baptist Church ass-poptarts get hammered at a local funeral for a fallen Oklahoma soldier.

They bragged their whole congregation would appear, yet only 3 members showed and left after 25 minutes....The 200+ bikers & hundreds of Oklahomans let this disturbed bible-humpers know that **** doesnt fly here.

Now their congregation is headed to Seattle to protest at some type of gay pride parade...Hammer their ass Seattle, hammer the living f**k out 'em.Hammer ass? HMMM not a bad idea.:D

[stargazer99]

I'm just crossing my fingers that Shrub gets a blowjob so we can impeach his ass.

The mental picture (with sound effects of his smirky laugh) that just popped into my mind damn near made me vomit! :eek:

[dissention]

The mental picture (with sound effects of his smirky laugh) that just popped into my mind damn near made me vomit! :eek:

Sound effects!!! :laugh: :laugh:

You are a riot.

[DavidMn]

Eh, no big surprise. Let the discriminations continue to build... it'll just make the inevitable uprising an even bigger vindication. :)Very simply and well stated.BRAVO:thumbsup:

[stargazer99]

How about an amendment that says marriage is between a man and woman...AND NOT A MISTRESS or an INTERN. They can stick THAT in their pipe and smoke it. We also need an amendment that says that people in positions of power cannot be corrupt, how about that?

Also, after watching The Colbert Repor and Keith Olbermann last night...how about an amendment keeping people from writing bear porn. EWWWW!!!!! :shocked:

Sounds about right to me! :thumbsup:

Anyone who doesn't realize the hypocrisy is a total moron.

[estranged4life]

I was in Oklahoma a while back, and flew into Dallas. When we drove back into Texas, the way we knew we had crossed the state line was that within 3 miles we passed a half dozen adult bookstores, a few gun shops, and innumerable billboards for strip joints. Real moral civilized folks there in Texas.

I remember my first visit to Texas in 2001, Driving along I-35 it was very scenic UNTIL you reached the Oklahoma/Texas state lines...Passed DW's Porn shop upon entry into Texas (Upon re-entry back into Oklahoma you'll pass the Casino owned by the Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma.)

Ya think Texas would have passed this law considering how many porn shops I passed on the way to Dallas. I mean surely they must also sell gay porn in those damn stores (I know when we shopped at Christie's Toy Box here in OKC they carried gay porn.)

Brian "Texans along the Red River decided to throw sticks of TNT at the Oklahomans on the other side...The Oklahomans of course picked up the sticks, lit 'em and threw 'em back...Stupid ass Texans" j.

[dissention]

Anyone who doesn't realize the hypocrisy is a total moron.

Or, as the fundies incorrectly spell on their anti-protester protest signs, "morans." :laugh:

http://www.jamesfaqs.com/Morans.jpg

[DavidMn]

I guess the way I look at it is pretty simple. I don't really care what some state or government entity says to me about what I can and cant have, I LOVE MEN, and that's all there's to it.:xoxo: :D

[stargazer99]

Oh god, I heard about that. And they think gay people are abhorrent.:rolleyes: Oy vez! Randi was talking about it the other day. She also played some of O'Reilley's audio novel about 2 young girls and their "activities" with a crack dealer. It was really gross! Even grosser because it is his voice. :shudder: PS, that was a literal shudder. Ewwwwwwww.

And how about Lynn Cheney's lesbian erotica? Yep, let's pass an amendment stipping gays of their rights, but make money from writing gay porn! :rolleyes:

[dissention]

I LOVE MEN

Don't tell Terry McMillan.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Or, as the fundies incorrectly spell on their anti-protester protest signs, "morans." :laugh:

http://www.jamesfaqs.com/Morans.jpg

Josh you know I got some....nice....pics of the moonbats in action too! They come from both sides...left and right! The left just does it more...

[DavidMn]

Don't tell Terry McMillan.****, you're right, I better call the cops quick. HELP!!! MY LIFE IS IN DANGER!! I HAVE A LOVE SCORNED WRITER ON MY ASS!!!!:laugh:

[strandinthewind]

. . . The left just does it more...

On what planet :laugh:

[dissention]

Josh you know I got some....nice....pics of the moonbats in action too! They come from both sides...left and right! The left just does it more...

Ha. Look into Anderson's eyes and shut up.

[DavidMn]

Ha. Look into Anderson's eyes and shut up.He looks might tasty in those pictures. Don't worry though, I know he's off limits...:( :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Hammer ass? HMMM not a bad idea.:D

anally raped these Kansas wheat-bating assdrips, as in "using a red, white & blue dildo to do the job so as to make 'em feel like the rest of us US citizens, cause when this country is f**king someone they sure let you know who it was that f**ked ya".

Been watching too much of George Carlin's new HBO special "George Carlin: Life is Worth Losing"...And I can proudly & safely say those Westboro iga-tards definitely need to lose their lives so they can go "joyfully" go be with Jesus.

[stargazer99]

I live in Fort Worth and I voted last night. I voted against the marriage bill. These red states are choking me to death. Oklahoma and Texas are both the same. Freaking hypocrites. I can't stand it and it makes me ashamed and sad for the people that this effects. I see no difference in same sex or different sex marriages. It's a union between two people that love each other. This discrimination makes me want to puke. It's OK to collect tax money from gays, let them pay property taxes and work with them but oh now don’t' let them have a relationship with another person that's recognized by the state. What is the big hang ups? Some people say oh those gays will take advantage of marriage. I say “oh you mean like the straight men that order a mail order bride?” They say that being gay is an abomination but was divorce looked upon the same way 30 years ago. I just don’t get it. But I voted and with that I know that I let me voice be heard.

Did you see Perry on the news when he signed the gay marriage ban several months ago? A reporter asked him what he will say to Texas' gay soldiers that are over in Iraq, that find, upon their return, that their rights have been stripped. He said something to the effect of "I'd tell them if the people of Texas have spoken, and if they don't like it, then maybe they should find another state to live in that will support their lifestyle." Real class act! The gays are good enough to fight our (unjust) war, but god forbid they want to be treated like a first class citizen when they return from Iraq (provided they don't get blown up, which I'm sure they're hoping for)!

[stargazer99]

Or, as the fundies incorrectly spell on their anti-protester protest signs, "morans." :laugh:

http://www.jamesfaqs.com/Morans.jpg

Oh yeah, I forgot... thank you, neo-cons, for ED-E-CATING me. Our children is learning, indeed! :laugh:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Ha. Look into Anderson's eyes and shut up.

HEYYYY!

I'm hurt. :(


:laugh:

[dissention]

Oh yeah, I forgot... thank you, neo-cons, for ED-E-CATING me. Our children is learning, indeed! :laugh:

Ever read "Make the Pie Higher"? They're all Bush quotes. :eek:

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!

[strandinthewind]

Did you see Perry on the news when he signed the gay marriage ban several months ago? A reporter asked him what he will say to Texas' gay soldiers that are over in Iraq, that find, upon their return, that their rights have been stripped. He said something to the effect of "I'd tell them if the people of Texas have spoken, and if they don't like it, then maybe they should find another state to live in that will support their lifestyle." Real class act! The gays are good enough to fight our (unjust) war, but god forbid they want to be treated like a first class citizen when they return from Iraq (provided they don't get blown up, which I'm sure they're hoping for)!

Not only that - but when they come back to the states, unlike their straight brethern, they cannot give their partner a big ole hug and a kiss in public because that would get them kicked out of the armed services. Utter crap.

[DavidMn]

Ever read "Make the Pie Higher"? They're all Bush quotes. :eek:

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!Poet laureate anyone?:eek: :lol:

[stargazer99]

Sound effects!!! :laugh: :laugh:

You are a riot.

Jon Stewart does the best "smirky Bush laugh". I can just hear it in my mind, going along with the mental picture. "Heh heh heh .... i'm getting a blow job in the O-VAL office ... heh heh heh!" God, I really think I'm going to vomit! Where's the barfing emotican when I need it?

[Livia]

Did you see Perry on the news when he signed the gay marriage ban several months ago? A reporter asked him what he will say to Texas' gay soldiers that are over in Iraq, that find, upon their return, that their rights have been stripped. He said something to the effect of "I'd tell them if the people of Texas have spoken, and if they don't like it, then maybe they should find another state to live in that will support their lifestyle." Real class act! The gays are good enough to fight our (unjust) war, but god forbid they want to be treated like a first class citizen when they return from Iraq (provided they don't get blown up, which I'm sure they're hoping for)!

Our gay governor said that? I'm just sayin', there HAVE been rumours...you know...

[DavidMn]

Our gay governor said that? I'm just sayin', there HAVE been rumours...you know...New Jersey anyone?

[stargazer99]

Our gay governor said that? I'm just sayin', there HAVE been rumours...you know...


Well, you know the saying, "I think thou dost protest too much" :nod:

[stargazer99]

Ever read "Make the Pie Higher"? They're all Bush quotes. :eek:

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!


I think I have read this before. Thanks for posting... I always get a good laugh reading his brilliant quotes! I think I'll print this out and put it on my wall.

[dissention]

I think I have read this before. Thanks for posting... I always get a good laugh reading his brilliant quotes! I think I'll print this out and put it on my wall.

I have it taped outside on the door to my apartment. :laugh:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I have it taped outside on the door to my apartment. :laugh:

Josh your front door must be looking tacky by now! :sorry: :xoxo:

[dissention]

Josh your front door must be looking tacky by now! :sorry: :xoxo:

It does look tacky, but I don't give a ****. I've got the Coulter doll hanging from my doorknocker, the Make the Pie Higher poem, a Ted Kennedy sticker, an Air America sticker, and a printout of the "Morans" photo, amongst a few other things.

I'm thinking of adding an excerpt from Libby's book.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

It does look tacky, but I don't give a ****. I've got the Coulter doll hanging from my doorknocker, the Make the Pie Higher poem, a Ted Kennedy sticker, an Air America sticker, and a printout of the "Morans" photo, amongst a few other things.

That is horrific Josh. I understand you must make a statement...

But I would be frightened to even walk in your home...

I would be scared I would see something from Wal-Mart!

[DavidMn]

That is horrific Josh. I understand you must make a statement...

But I would be frightened to even walk in your home...

I would be scared I would see something from Wal-Mart!What about Target?:p

[sparky]

It does look tacky, but I don't give a ****. I've got the Coulter doll hanging from my doorknocker, the Make the Pie Higher poem, a Ted Kennedy sticker, an Air America sticker, and a printout of the "Morans" photo, amongst a few other things.

I'm thinking of adding an excerpt from Libby's book.

You need to post a picture of this little montage, Frank.

[dissention]

But I would be frightened to even walk in your home...

Republicans aren't welcome. They disrespect America, so they surely wouldn't respect my home. :o

I would be scared I would see something from Wal-Mart!

Umm...fug? I wouldn't give that disgusting company a dime of my money.

[DavidMn]

You need to post a picture of this little montage, Frank.It would be quite the decoration wouldnt it?

[dissention]

You need to post a picture of this little montage, Frank.

I need to buy rechargable batteries for my camera, I accidentally tossed them in a bag of crusty old batteries and now I can't find them. I don't understand why regular batteries won't work in a digital camera. :shrug:

[sparky]

In a story about people in China being imprisoned for distributing bibles, the chimp is quoted as saying the following: "A vibrant, whole society is one that recognizes that certain freedoms are inherent and need to be part of a complete society".

Hmmmmm...except if you are gay. This man is such a corrupt pandering landfill.

[DavidMn]

Republicans aren't welcome. They disrespect America, so they surely wouldn't respect my home. :o



Umm...fug? I wouldn't give that disgusting company a dime of my money.I didnt figure you to be a walmart guy

[dissention]

In a story about people in China being imprisoned for distributing bibles, the chimp is quoted as saying the following: "A vibrant, whole society is one that recognizes that certain freedoms are inherent and need to be part of a complete society".

Hmmmmm...except if you are gay. This man is such a corrupt pandering landfill.

You're surprised? This is the man who once said that he denounced bigotry AND denounced interracial dating in the same sentence. That's my favorite one from him. EVER.

[sparky]

I need to buy rechargable batteries for my camera, I accidentally tossed them in a bag of crusty old batteries and now I can't find them. I don't understand why regular batteries won't work in a digital camera. :shrug:

I think you have camera issues, Skippy. They work fine in my Olympus.

Sheesh, how big is that bag ?

[dissention]

I think you have camera issues, Skippy. They work fine in my Olympus.

I have a Hewlett Packard and whenever I put regular batteries in it, it works for thirty seconds, the battery light goes red, and it shuts down. And the batteries are completely zapped from then on. :shrug:

Sheesh, how big is that bag ?

I have quite a few of them. I put them all on a shelf in my broom closet.

[sparky]

I have quite a few of them. I put them all on a shelf in my broom closet.

What does one eventually do with such things ?

[dissention]

What does one eventually do with such things ?

I haven't figured that out yet.

[estranged4life]

Umm...fug? I wouldn't give that disgusting company a dime of my money.

but considering how they have over 50% of the Oklahoma retail/Grocery market I am reduced to (Be it very begrudgingly...Deb can attest to that! Except for music purchases, Then I am the online King-Rat Bastard) shopping there with no choice since Welfare-Mart (They pay their employees so badly that almost all non-management employees can qualify for "public assistance", Maybe that is ALSO why WM teaches their employees how to apply for "public assistance") has driven ALL local retail/grocery businesses into closing shop.

F_ck W_l-M_rt ...Care to buy a vowel?

Brian "At last count there's about 50+ Welfare-Mart's within a 100 mile drive of our home...Tell's ya something dont it? M-O-N-O-P-O-L-Y!!! " j.

[wondergirl9847]

Jon Stewart does the best "smirky Bush laugh".

He REALLY loves doing that laugh and it's hysterical!

[DavidMn]

He REALLY loves doing that laugh and it's hysterical!I'll have to hear it sometime

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Republicans aren't welcome. They disrespect America, so they surely wouldn't respect my home. :o

Who said I was still a Republican?:shrug:



Umm...fug? I wouldn't give that disgusting company a dime of my money.

a glimmer of hope...

[cliffdweller]

Well, you can't say it passed because of me. :)

I'm sure it failed in Travis County, which is a small comfort to me. I really need to start making plans to leave the state, though (and possibly the country :lol: ).

I know. I won't venture outside of Austin if I don't have to!

[DavidMn]

Who said I was still a Republican?:shrug:





a glimmer of hope...Youre not still a Republican?!?!?!?!:eek: WHat gives here. I cant handle this!!!:eek: :eek: :lol:

[markolas]

Meh. Constitutional amendments aren't something that's necessarily permanent. Prohibition was repealed.

But it was only repealed by the passage of another Constitutional amendment. Can you really see an amendment being passed to *repeal* a gay marriage ban? I can't.

There will never be a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. Three quarters of the states have to ratify it- and that will never happen.

I dunno...it's not like a huge turnout is necessary. The Texas marriage ban was passed with a wopping 16% voter turnout. :nod: The wingnuts count on 2/3's of voters staying home. Meanwhile, they mobilize their Christo-fascist forces, and what do you have...?

(Yes, I'm being a little dramatic...but not much).

[The Tower]

But it was only repealed by the passage of another Constitutional amendment. Can you really see an amendment being passed to *repeal* a gay marriage ban? I can't.
Yes, I can. These kinds of social issues take time, but once they change- they change. I TiVo'd a movie called "That Certain Summer" and watched it the other day and you wouldn't believe the attitudes that were in that flick. And that movie was made in 1972.

I dunno...it's not like a huge turnout is necessary. The Texas marriage ban was passed with a wopping 16% voter turnout. :nod: The wingnuts count on 2/3's of voters staying home. Meanwhile, they mobilize their Christo-fascist forces, and what do you have...?

(Yes, I'm being a little dramatic...but not much).
Honey-pie... US constitutional amendments require 3/4 of the state legislatures to ratify them- it's not an election.

[markolas]

Yes, I can. These kinds of social issues take time, but once they change- they change. I TiVo'd a movie called "That Certain Summer" and watched it the other day and you wouldn't believe the attitudes that were in that flick. And that movie was made in 1972.

Well, maybe in 100 years, when both of us are dead. :p


Honey-pie... US constitutional amendments require 3/4 of the state legislatures to ratify them- it's not an election.

Oh, well we're definitely screwed in that case.:lol:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Youre not still a Republican?!?!?!?!:eek: WHat gives here. I cant handle this!!!:eek: :eek: :lol:

I didn't say I was a democrat either! :cool:

[GateandGarden]

I didn't say I was a democrat either! :cool:But now you'll have to "unjoin" that Republican blogring on Xanga! :laugh::laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

You're surprised? This is the man who once said that he denounced bigotry AND denounced interracial dating in the same sentence. That's my favorite one from him. EVER.

Did you hear that today he said Democrats are out of touch with every day issues Americans care about? I'll have what he's smoking!

[dissention]

Did you hear that today he said Democrats are out of touch with every day issues Americans care about? I'll have what he's smoking!

:laugh:

When he was in Brazil the other day, he was shown a map of the country and he said "Wow. Brazil is big." I kid you not.

[stargazer99]

:laugh:

When he was in Brazil the other day, he was shown a map of the country and he said "Wow. Brazil is big." I kid you not.

Doesn't surprise me, considering that he supposedly asked the president of Brazil "Do you have blacks, too?" a couple years back. :eek:

Have you guys heard the "tribal sovereignity" one? I just heard a clip of it for the first time yesterday morning on Air America when I was driving to work. Democracy Now apparently did a show about it afterwards. They have the audio, as well as a transcript from the show:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/10/149259

The clip is about 30 minutes long, but you've got to listen to the first 3 minutes. They have the audio of Bush, as well as Jesse Jackson's take on it. The Bush part would be funny, if it weren't just downright pathetic. (How did this guy make it through grade school, much less become president?) But the Jesse Jackson part is hysterical!

[cliffdweller]

Yes, I can. These kinds of social issues take time, but once they change- they change. I TiVo'd a movie called "That Certain Summer" and watched it the other day and you wouldn't believe the attitudes that were in that flick. And that movie was made in 1972.

I can't believe this **** is happening in my time. 20, 30 years from now people are going to look back on this, scratch their heads and wonder WHY gay marriage was ever banned-- kind of like how we, today, can't believe there was ever racial segregation.

[SuzeQuze]

:laugh:

When he was in Brazil the other day, he was shown a map of the country and he said "Wow. Brazil is big." I kid you not.

And I thought that I was geographically challenged! WTF :confused:

Have you guys heard the "tribal sovereignity" one? I just heard a clip of it for the first time yesterday morning on Air America when I was driving to work. Democracy Now apparently did a show about it afterwards. They have the audio, as well as a transcript from the show:

http://www.democracynow.org/article....4/08/10/149259

I have heard this but will try to listen to your link to hear Jackson's remarks. In a vocabulary test Shrub would have failed. I couldn't write "Sovereignty means you are sovereign." on my test and pass! :laugh:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

But now you'll have to "unjoin" that Republican blogring on Xanga! :laugh::laugh:

ugh yea...I'll do that later...too much work right now!

[DavidMn]

I didn't say I was a democrat either! :cool:
Damn, youre confusing me...:laugh:

[reebokandlace]

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