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heyjupiter678
11-08-2005, 05:23 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sc/evolution_debate_2
Kansas School Board OKs Science Standards
By JOHN HANNA, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.
Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.
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DavidMn
11-08-2005, 05:25 PM
Remember, Topeka is where that freak, Reverend Fred Phelps is from
gldstwmn
11-08-2005, 06:21 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sc/evolution_debate_2
Kansas School Board OKs Science Standards
By JOHN HANNA, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
Sigh. :distress: Public schools have gone straight into the ****ter in the last 20 years.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sc/evolution_debate_2
Kansas School Board OKs Science Standards
By JOHN HANNA, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.
Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.
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What's the matter with Kansas indeed. This is simply a disgrace. And if it were just some nominal issue, like displaying the ten commandments or something, I'd probably just roll my eyes and move on, but these people are taking the first steps toward destroying the education of millions of children here, and that's just despicable.
I'd like to believe that primary education should be left in the hands of local and state officials, but if this is the **** they're gonna be pulling, there needs to be some kind of federal override option in place. We need to have some kinds of standards here.
amber
11-08-2005, 07:16 PM
"Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power."
Your tiny, simple brain notwithstanding.....
dissention
11-08-2005, 08:02 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sc/evolution_debate_2
Kansas School Board OKs Science Standards
By JOHN HANNA, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.
Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.
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If I ever had spawn, they'd be homeschooled. :lol:
Brwn_eyes0511
11-08-2005, 08:09 PM
Sigh. :distress: Public schools have gone straight into the ****ter in the last 20 years.
Can we get rid of the Department of Education already? :wavey:
Brwn_eyes0511
11-08-2005, 08:10 PM
If I ever had spawn, they'd be homeschooled. :lol:
God bless you! (or "primordial ooze" bless you…which ever)!
Can we get rid of the Department of Education already? :wavey:
Uh, take note, kiddo, this was a state decision. Perhaps if the federal Department of Education had more of a say in dictating educational standards, this kind of idiocy wouldn't be occurring.
stargazer99
11-08-2005, 09:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sc/evolution_debate_2
Kansas School Board OKs Science Standards
By JOHN HANNA, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.
The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.
Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.
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:mad: :mad: :mad:
... that's about all I have in me!
BombaySapphire3
11-08-2005, 09:10 PM
I actually had to live in Kansas albeit Kansas City for a few years and pretty much loathed every minute of it .I had to pull off the freeway just after passing Candlestick park north from SFO when I came back here .The tears of blessed reilef were that copious.
irishgrl
11-08-2005, 09:12 PM
What's the matter with Kansas indeed. This is simply a disgrace. And if it were just some nominal issue, like displaying the ten commandments or something, I'd probably just roll my eyes and move on, but these people are taking the first steps toward destroying the education of millions of children here, and that's just despicable.
I'd like to believe that primary education should be left in the hands of local and state officials, but if this is the **** they're gonna be pulling, there needs to be some kind of federal override option in place. We need to have some kinds of standards here.
I never thot I'd say this but Im seriously thinking that homeschooling might be the answer if this keeps up.....
That stupid school board keeps flirting with disaster and asking for more and more lawsuits....they've already been shot down before, you think they'd learn.....:shrug:
irishgrl
11-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Uh, take note, kiddo, this was a state decision. Perhaps if the federal Department of Education had more of a say in dictating educational standards, this kind of idiocy wouldn't be occurring.
not with born again Monkey Boy at the helm........:distress:
dissention
11-08-2005, 09:20 PM
Check this out.
Evolution in the bible, says Vatican
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html
THE Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin, voicing strong criticism of Christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible" if the Bible were read correctly.
His statement was a clear attack on creationist campaigners in the US, who see evolution and the Genesis account as mutually exclusive.
"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".
This idea was part of theology, Cardinal Poupard emphasised, while the precise details of how creation and the development of the species came about belonged to a different realm - science. Cardinal Poupard said that it was important for Catholic believers to know how science saw things so as to "understand things better".
His statements were interpreted in Italy as a rejection of the "intelligent design" view, which says the universe is so complex that some higher being must have designed every detail.
Brwn_eyes0511
11-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Check this out.
Evolution in the bible, says Vatican
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html
THE Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin, voicing strong criticism of Christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible" if the Bible were read correctly.
His statement was a clear attack on creationist campaigners in the US, who see evolution and the Genesis account as mutually exclusive.
"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".
This idea was part of theology, Cardinal Poupard emphasised, while the precise details of how creation and the development of the species came about belonged to a different realm - science. Cardinal Poupard said that it was important for Catholic believers to know how science saw things so as to "understand things better".
His statements were interpreted in Italy as a rejection of the "intelligent design" view, which says the universe is so complex that some higher being must have designed every detail.
Josh honey, haven't you learned that the Catholic Church doesn't run middle American!!!??? Those crazy protestant churches do.
David
11-08-2005, 09:26 PM
What's the matter with Kansas indeed. This is simply a disgrace. And if it were just some nominal issue, like displaying the ten commandments or something, I'd probably just roll my eyes and move on, but these people are taking the first steps toward destroying the education of millions of children here, and that's just despicable.
I'd like to believe that primary education should be left in the hands of local and state officials, but if this is the **** they're gonna be pulling, there needs to be some kind of federal override option in place. We need to have some kinds of standards here.Jyqm, I recommend reading Richard Mitchell's essay "The Other Ignorant Army," from Volume V, No. 6 (September 1981) of The Underground Grammarian. I steal from this quite a bit.
The upshot here is that, given the choice between the incompetence of government schooling & the ideologic damage of the Christianist schools (& these may be public schools on paper, but they're Christianist in practice), it's better to go with the former.
sparky
11-08-2005, 09:59 PM
Next it will be the flat earth theory.
amber
11-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Next it will be the flat earth theory.
And in medical school they will teach bloodletting so doctors will be able to drive the demons out of people when they get sick.
UnwindedDreams
11-08-2005, 10:06 PM
That is ridiculous!:mad:
UnwindedDreams
11-08-2005, 10:07 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And in medical school they will teach bloodletting so doctors will be able to drive the demons out of people when they get sick.
Check this out.
Evolution in the bible, says Vatican
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html
THE Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin, voicing strong criticism of Christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible" if the Bible were read correctly.
His statement was a clear attack on creationist campaigners in the US, who see evolution and the Genesis account as mutually exclusive.
"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".
This idea was part of theology, Cardinal Poupard emphasised, while the precise details of how creation and the development of the species came about belonged to a different realm - science. Cardinal Poupard said that it was important for Catholic believers to know how science saw things so as to "understand things better".
His statements were interpreted in Italy as a rejection of the "intelligent design" view, which says the universe is so complex that some higher being must have designed every detail.
I must say, it's a pretty interesting time in history when suddenly the Catholic Church is the sensible wing of Christianity.
Shame on that website for the idiotic and misleading headline, though.
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