What Are You Reading Right Now...Part Uno [Archive]

SuzeQuze

11-01-2005, 06:57 PM

The Truth (with jokes) by Al Franken

Nice! How is it? I am still plodding through The Witching Hour by Ann Rice in my homage to NOLA. Ironically the creepiest, darkest part of the book was the part I got to on Halloween! When I'm done (I'm on page 650 of about 1000) I'm going to read the Tori Amos bio. Then Al's book, most likely! That or Mary Leader's Triad since I just got a used copy of that through Amazon.

Jyqm

11-01-2005, 06:57 PM

In the vein of what are you listening to...I'll start

The Whole World Was Watching: Living In The Light Of Matthew Shepard - Romaine Patterson

Musarion by Christoph Martin Wieland. Don't feel bad if you've never heard of it.

Serendipity

11-01-2005, 07:01 PM

Clarkson's autobiography (will prolly only mean something to UK ledgies..he's the guy who hosts Top Gear) Its on my boyfriends bathroom floor, so I'm reading a chapter at a time...you know what I mean! So buried in law books, I dont have time for "real" reading!!!

~Nicki

AliceLover

11-01-2005, 07:03 PM

Just finished The Scarlet Letter.....Which I did not like.

dissention

11-01-2005, 07:07 PM

Just finished The Scarlet Letter.....Which I did not like.

You didn't? :eek: That's one of my favorite books. Though I hated it initially when forced to read it in school because of "The Custom House."

dissention

11-01-2005, 07:08 PM

Nice! How is it? I am still plodding through The Witching Hour by Ann Rice in my homage to NOLA. Ironically the creepiest, darkest part of the book was the part I got to on Halloween! When I'm done (I'm on page 650 of about 1000) I'm going to read the Tori Amos bio. Then Al's book, most likely! That or Mary Leader's Triad since I just got a used copy of that through Amazon.

It's really funny, I like it. I'm only about 50 pages into it, though.

sparky

11-01-2005, 07:08 PM

In the last two days I read The Committment by Dan Savage. It was amusing, but not as funny as his others. It also made me think a lot about my opinions on gay marriage. Thought provoking.

Nixxxed

11-01-2005, 07:18 PM

I'm on my third reading of "Dress Yourself in Corduroy and Denim" by David Sedaris. Except I'm skipping the chapter named "Hejira" this time - it hits a little close to home and makes me cry.

I'm also on the hunt for Margaret Cho's new one. And since Suze's post, and the fact that I just read that Anne Rice is now gonna write "only for God" and ditch her spooky themes, I might have to revisit the witch series. "The Witching Hour" was good, but "Lasher" ... (shudder, goose pimples).

Neal

11-01-2005, 07:21 PM

An email from my manager explaining why my f*cking paycheck was 8 hours short! :mad:

dissention

11-01-2005, 07:21 PM

I'm also on the hunt for Margaret Cho's new one.

I bought it and it's really great. You'll be surprised at how ferocious it actually is.

SuzeQuze

11-01-2005, 07:25 PM

You didn't? :eek: That's one of my favorite books. Though I hated it initially when forced to read it in school because of "The Custom House."

I really like it too. :shrug:

Nixxxed

11-01-2005, 07:26 PM

I bought it and it's really great. You'll be surprised at how ferocious it actually is.
Did you hear she is in development of a new sitcom based on her mother? :lol: She said something about it on TheView, but I was too busy laughing from the previous joke, and I missed a lot of the explanation.

SuzeQuze

11-01-2005, 07:28 PM

...
I'm also on the hunt for Margaret Cho's new one. And since Suze's post, and the fact that I just read that Anne Rice is now gonna write "only for God" and ditch her spooky themes, I might have to revisit the witch series. "The Witching Hour" was good, but "Lasher" ... (shudder, goose pimples).

They are perfect to read this time of year. I did not know about Anne and God. I am surprised she would limit herself in any way. I guess I haven't kept up with her!

So you liked Lasher? I have never read it but I might now. I hated the end of The Witching Hour and I just couldn't get into Lasher.

SuzeQuze

11-01-2005, 07:29 PM

Did you hear she is in development of a new sitcom based on her mother? :lol: She said something about it on TheView, but I was too busy laughing from the previous joke, and I missed a lot of the explanation.

That would be hysterical, her jokes about her mom always crack me up!

amber

11-01-2005, 07:39 PM

I just finished (like, just now) Swerve: Reckless Observations of a Postmodern Girl by Aisha Tyler. She is hilarious. And in a way that fits me well. I would recommend it. She's really smart, and really goofy.

Nixxxed

11-01-2005, 07:41 PM

They are perfect to read this time of year. I did not know about Anne and God. I am surprised she would limit herself in any way. I guess I haven't kept up with her!

So you liked Lasher? I have never read it but I might now. I hated the end of The Witching Hour and I just couldn't get into Lasher.
Here's the new Anne Rice article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9785289/site/newsweek/

Stories about witches and ghosts get me every time, and Lasher is much more "supernatural" than TWH, so that's why I liked it better. Offhand I don't remember the end of the first book, tho. But, I do remember it taking a bit for Lasher to get going, but when it did...

ragandbone

11-01-2005, 07:59 PM

I am just starting Beth Lisick's "Everybody Into the Pool"
I read "How Do Dinasaurs Say goodnight" every night arond 8:00 out loud.;)

I just finished (like, just now) Swerve: Reckless Observations of a Postmodern Girl by Aisha Tyler. She is hilarious. And in a way that fits me well. I would recommend it. She's really smart, and really goofy.
I just requested this at the library.

sparky

11-01-2005, 07:59 PM

I'm on my third reading of "Dress Yourself in Corduroy and Denim" by David Sedaris. Except I'm skipping the chapter named "Hejira" this time - it hits a little close to home and makes me cry.

You know, MDC, I didn't like that one very much. I didn't find it very funny.
I was worried Sedaris had played himself out when I read it. Maybe it's just his Street Angel.

Perhaps I should revisit it.

amber

11-01-2005, 08:07 PM

I am just starting Beth Lisick's "Everybody Into the Pool"
I read "How Do Dinasaurs Say goodnight" every night arond 8:00 out loud.;)

I just requested this at the library.
Oh, good! I really enjoyed it. I saw her recently on a late night show, and noticed she was really funny. I didn't know her before that at all. Except I had seen her on Friends, of course. She was promoting the book, so I got it.
The End.

Nixxxed

11-01-2005, 08:19 PM

You know, MDC, I didn't like that one very much. I didn't find it very funny.
I was worried Sedaris had played himself out when I read it. Maybe it's just his Street Angel.

Perhaps I should revisit it.
That's why I like (or should I say "appreciate") it so much. He's always made me laugh, but until this book has never made me out-and-out sob hysterically onto the pages.

And I think "Us & Them" (the first chapter, about the family with no TV) is one of the best & funniest things he's ever written. The image of him gorging himself on chocolate so the no-TV freak kids (who trick-or-treat a day late) can't have any carried me through the rest of the book. :laugh:

LikeAWillow

11-01-2005, 08:21 PM

Fall of the Year by Howard Frank Mosher :)

ragandbone

11-01-2005, 08:30 PM

You know, MDC, I didn't like that one very much. I didn't find it very funny.
I was worried Sedaris had played himself out when I read it. Maybe it's just his Street Angel.

Perhaps I should revisit it.

This was not my favorite David Sedaris book, but I have had to assess the reasons I liked him to begin with. I really just considered him to be a skilled humorist before, but not a serious writer, and maybe this is a transitional book.
Here is a link to the story I liked the best in "Dress Your Family..."
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/030818fa_fact
I am trying to remember the Hejira chapter (with "Amelia, it was just a false alarm" running through my head,) oh right, that chapter is heartbreaking!

sara1998

11-01-2005, 09:16 PM

Hillary Clinton Living History.

It's pretty interesting, I guess. I'm still reading it.... :D

JazmenFlowers

11-01-2005, 09:16 PM

Nice! How is it? I am still plodding through The Witching Hour by Ann Rice in my homage to NOLA. Ironically the creepiest, darkest part of the book was the part I got to on Halloween! When I'm done (I'm on page 650 of about 1000) I'm going to read the Tori Amos bio. Then Al's book, most likely! That or Mary Leader's Triad since I just got a used copy of that through Amazon.
ooh - my fave book by Anne.

Triad is a good book too. I read it about 3 years ago. It's not, to me, a very well-written book, but a good, easy read.

I really, really want to read the Tori Amos book too.

sparky

11-01-2005, 09:20 PM

(with "Amelia, it was just a false alarm" running through my head,)

I am sure I blocked it out. The thought of that song makes me almost inconsolably sad. I have to be in the right frame of mind to even think about it, let alone listen to it. Thus is the power of Joni.

AliceLover

11-01-2005, 09:21 PM

You didn't? :eek: That's one of my favorite books. Though I hated it initially when forced to read it in school because of "The Custom House."

Ok ill put it on that table...I thought it was a piece of garbage.

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:00 PM

An email from my manager explaining why my f*cking paycheck was 8 hours short! :mad:

awwww..

Neal that sucks! :shocked:

macfanken

11-01-2005, 10:04 PM

I'm reading "Living History" by Hillary Clinton... just in case she runs... I want to know more about her.

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:05 PM

I'm reading "Living History" by Hillary Clinton... just in case she runs... I want to know more about her.

:lol:

I don't think that's the right book then babe....

macfanken

11-01-2005, 10:06 PM

:lol:

I don't think that's the right book then babe....

I'm afraid to ask... what do you suggest?

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:07 PM

I'm afraid to ask... what do you suggest?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060736682/qid=1130900749/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-7322603-5192750?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

This was written by the (mmm..flamboyant) Dick Morris. He is by no means a conservative but he felt that if Hillary was heading to the white house in the next election we should have a more HONEST look at her life than simply what was written in her book!

strandinthewind

11-01-2005, 10:10 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060736682/qid=1130900749/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-7322603-5192750?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

This was written by the (mmm..flamboyant) Dick Morris. He is by no means a conservative but he felt that if Hillary was heading to the white house in the next election we should have a more HONEST look at her life than simply what was written in her book!

Hmmmm - honest - well maybe to the uninformed:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405040006

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:10 PM

Hmmmm - honest - well maybe to the uninformed:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405040006

You just gave me a link to mediamatters superman! WTF?! :laugh:

On edit: I do have to say that I actually did read and enjoy Hillary's book! I just found Morris' book to be more informative.

ragandbone

11-01-2005, 10:14 PM

I am sure I blocked it out. The thought of that song makes me almost inconsolably sad. I have to be in the right frame of mind to even think about it, let alone listen to it. Thus is the power of Joni.

It's true, if I just think of the beginning with that quiet, lonely guitar, I get sad chills. I only recently looked up the word to find out what it meant.
[Ar.,=Hijra=breaking off of relations]
I think I am going to go take out the album, make myself a toddy, and wallow in Wintery sadness. Turning the record over will keep me from going down too deep.

strandinthewind

11-01-2005, 10:15 PM

You just gave me a link to mediamatters superman! WTF?! :laugh:

On edit: I do have to say that I actually did read and enjoy Hillary's book! I just found Morris' book to be more informative.

Well, look at it and you will see it cites to many other publications, some of which are conservative. But, you never did have much positive regard for the truth - so why start now.

macfanken

11-01-2005, 10:16 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060736682/qid=1130900749/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-7322603-5192750?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

This was written by the (mmm..flamboyant) Dick Morris. He is by no means a conservative but he felt that if Hillary was heading to the white house in the next election we should have a more HONEST look at her life than simply what was written in her book!

I don't want to turn this into a political thread... but Dick Morris has a creepy, obsessive vendetta against Hillary. Not sure what she did to him. He does make an entertaining FAUX News talking head.

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:16 PM

Well, look at it and you will see it cites to many other publications, some of which are conservative. But, you never did have much positive regard for the truth - so why start now.

I read it silly. Just because it is mediamatters doesn't mean I won't read it...it just means that it is a hands down liberal website and they of course are going to have a slant...to say the least.

No need to attack me superman!

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 10:17 PM

I don't want to turn this into a political thread... but Dick Morris has a creepy, obsessive vendetta against Hillary. Not sure what she did to him. He does make an entertaining FAUX News talking head.

Probably because HE wanted to be Mrs. Clinton...:laugh:

GODDESS6

11-01-2005, 10:19 PM

"unfinished symphony" v c andrews~

markolas

11-01-2005, 10:21 PM

AliceLover

11-01-2005, 10:21 PM

I really like it too. :shrug:

Nothing happened. The best part of the book was the end...Making room for Chillingworth on the boat....hehhe

rhiannon948

11-01-2005, 10:32 PM

vander's human physiology- the mechanisms of body function... woot!

i've got an exam tomorrow :distress:

amber

11-01-2005, 11:02 PM

vander's human physiology- the mechanisms of body function... woot!

i've got an exam tomorrow :distress:
Yuck. At least you're studying, though. Which reminds me....:laugh:

dissention

11-01-2005, 11:12 PM

I don't want to turn this into a political thread... but Dick Morris has a creepy, obsessive vendetta against Hillary. Not sure what she did to him. He does make an entertaining FAUX News talking head.

He has a vendetta against all of the Clintons. It's kind of freaky. I'm not a fan of Bill or Hillary, but Dick Morris is really out there.

BTFLCHLD

11-01-2005, 11:15 PM

article about Melbourne Cup celebs being paid for their appearances ... :rolleyes:

Brwn_eyes0511

11-01-2005, 11:33 PM

He has a vendetta against all of the Clintons. It's kind of freaky. I'm not a fan of Bill or Hillary, but Dick Morris is really out there.

I'm tellin' ya. He wanted to be Mrs. Clinton! :laugh:

strandinthewind

11-01-2005, 11:38 PM

He has a vendetta against all of the Clintons. It's kind of freaky. I'm not a fan of Bill or Hillary, but Dick Morris is really out there.

Well, I think he felt left off of the money wagon with them. So, I think he saw Fox as a method to make a name and money for himself. I mean the errors in his book are so glaring that I caught one or two from memory. In the end, I think he sold out.

Nixxxed

11-01-2005, 11:38 PM

It's true, if I just think of the beginning with that quiet, lonely guitar, I get sad chills. I only recently looked up the word to find out what it meant.
[Ar.,=Hijra=breaking off of relations]
I think I am going to go take out the album, make myself a toddy, and wallow in Wintery sadness. Turning the record over will keep me from going down too deep.
:( :( :(

That's why I appreciated the latest book so much. He's never delved that deeply into those emotions before. And the link you posted to "The Girl Next Door" - that chapter is pretty freaky too. Actually downright horrifying.

I don't have a copy of "Hejira" though. A friend played it for me once. Heartbreaking.

catinthedark

11-01-2005, 11:48 PM

I just finished The Song Beneath the Ice by Joe Fiorito.

I just started The Heart is an Involuntary Muscle by Monique Proulx. Which wins the prize for best title ever. :o

Jyqm

11-02-2005, 06:41 AM

Ok ill put it on that table...I thought it was a piece of garbage.

The Scarlet Letter is not one of my favorite books, either, as I think it really gets bogged down by the weight of its own self-importance in a lot of places. But there are some really beautifully written chapters in there, especially the one where Hester takes Pearl out to the forest to play, and I believe they encounter Dimsdale.

ryan8472

11-02-2005, 07:07 AM

Mein Kampf

:lol:

Right now I'm reading Donnie Brasco. For my "History of Crime & Violence" class. :p It's pretty good actually. And quite vulgar. :laugh: :thumbsup:

Jyqm

11-02-2005, 07:36 AM

Mein Kampf

I'd actually really love to read Mein Kampf, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal here, and I don't want to ask around for fear of being deported...

hayley

11-02-2005, 10:24 AM

I'd actually really love to read Mein Kampf, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal here, and I don't want to ask around for fear of being deported...
It's not illegal, is it? I checked one of like five copies out from my middle school library in 7th grade.

I am currently slogging through the new Diana Gabaldon. I have absolutely no will to read anymore, and it is depressing.

DavidMn

11-02-2005, 12:13 PM

Now I Can Die In Peace:angel:

Jyqm

11-02-2005, 01:10 PM

It's not illegal, is it? I checked one of like five copies out from my middle school library in 7th grade.

Where, in America? No, it's not illegal in America. I don't think any books are illegal in America these days.

Actually a search on amazon.de turns up just a few relevant results:

1) Barabra Zehnpfennig's "interpretation" of Mein Kampf.

2) Christian Zenter's "excerpts with commentary" from Mein Kampf.

3) A double CD of actor Helmut Qualtinger reading from Mein Kampf, with supposedly funny and satirical results.

And a couple of others. You can't just buy the book straight up, though. Only annotated copies for academic use. Otherwise, the dissemination of Nazi propaganda is illegal.

Hippocampus

11-02-2005, 01:26 PM

Always two books at the same time. Currently:

- "Naked In Death" by J.D. Robb

&

- "Second Foundation" by Isaac Isimov

RavenOfRhiannon

11-02-2005, 03:08 PM

The Athena Factor by Michael Gear

and

Tulia by Nate Blakeslee

I have had both authors in for booksignings in several of our stores, so I figured I might want to be familiar with their work.

Athena Factor is very good. It's a thriller about how our current obsession with celebrities is going to dovetail with the new developments in cloning. (I mean, Brad Pitt does have to get his hair cut, so what is his barber sold a strand of hair to a cloning facility? I'd buy a Brad 2.0, that's for sure!)

reebokandlace

11-02-2005, 03:15 PM

The Elegant Universe (String Theory) by David Gross

Quantum Physics for dummies basically...

....just a little light afternoon reading.....:laugh:

cliffdweller

11-02-2005, 05:24 PM

The Darling by Russell Banks.

And has anyone read The Story of O? My best friend swears by it and wants me to read it. She's all into erotica :rolleyes:.

crylove77

11-02-2005, 06:18 PM

I'm usually reading two books at a time, too. Now:

Moon Over Purgatory by Bill Johnson (for the third time)
Southern Ladies and Gentlemen by Florence King (for the...I don't know how many times I've read this. It gets funnier each time.)

sparky

11-02-2005, 07:28 PM

Hejira is my favorite Joni Mitchell album. Masterpiece. I can totally feel her on every song on this. And Blue. OMG. :distress:

Have you heard the Hejira on Travelogue ? Shattering. I nonchalantly put the cd on one night about 6 months after my BF and I broke up last year, and about 2/3 of the way through that song I was sobbing so hard I almost puked.

markolas

11-02-2005, 07:31 PM

Have you heard the Hejira on Travelogue ? Shattering. I nonchalantly put the cd on one night about 6 months after my BF and I broke up last year, and about 2/3 of the way through that song I was sobbing so hard I almost puked.

I've heard it. I have mixed feelings about Travelogue. Some of the songs sound great, others I think she should've left alone.

I love that she redid my two favorites for that album, though...Refuge of the Roads and The Last Time I Saw Richard. :D

sparky

11-02-2005, 07:39 PM

I've heard it. I have mixed feelings about Travelogue. Some of the songs sound great, others I think she should've left alone.

I love that she redid my two favorites for that album, though...Refuge of the Roads and The Last Time I Saw Richard. :D

I ? Am a jackass. The sob till I puke song is Amelia. :laugh:

Refuge is a great one as well, and I am also a big fan of Sex Kills and Cherokee Louise. OMG, and Chinese Cafe. Lord. That record...there are only 3 or 4 that don't blow my socks off. Regardless of if I love all the different versions, I am thrilled that she was bold and creative enough to rework them. And I am much happier with the older, deeper voice.

markolas

11-02-2005, 07:45 PM

I ? Am a jackass. The sob till I puke song is Amelia. :laugh:

Refuge is a great one as well, and I am also a big fan of Sex Kills and Cherokee Louise. OMG, and Chinese Cafe. Lord. That record...there are only 3 or 4 that don't blow my socks off. Regardless of if I love all the different versions, I am thrilled that she was bold and creative enough to rework them. And I am much happier with the older, deeper voice.

Oh, I really liked the version of Amelia she did for Travelogue. :)

Chinese Cafe is one of the ones I wish she'd left alone, though. :p

RE: her voice. I can only take her pre-Blue albums in small doses because she was singing soooo high. I much prefer her voice from about the Hejira album on. I like her older/deeper voice to an extent, but it seems like it's deteriorated even since Turbulent Indigo (another favorite). I really do like deep-voiced women singers, though. Have you heard Cassandra Wilson? :nod:

sparky

11-02-2005, 07:49 PM

Oh, I really liked the version of Amelia she did for Travelogue. :)

Chinese Cafe is one of the ones I wish she'd left alone, though. :p

RE: her voice. I can only take her pre-Blue albums in small doses because she was singing soooo high. I much prefer her voice from about the Hejira album on. I like her older/deeper voice to an extent, but it seems like it's deteriorated even since Turbulent Indigo (another favorite). I really do like deep-voiced women singers, though. Have you heard Cassandra Wilson? :nod:

I can only take pre-Hejira for about 3 songs too. Her voice has deteriorated, it is true, but she still really uses it like an instrument, which fascinates me. I think it actually sounded best on Night Ride Home, whch I consider to be one of the most perfect song cycles ever. Up until Ray's Dad's Cadillac, I am riveted.

I know Cassandra Wilson a bit...

markolas

11-02-2005, 07:53 PM

I can only take pre-Hejira for about 3 songs too.

Blue is absolute greatness, though.

Her voice has deteriorated, it is true, but she still really uses it like an instrument, which fascinates me. I think it actually sounded best on Night Ride Home, whch I consider to be one of the most perfect song cycles ever. Up until Ray's Dad's Cadillac, I am riveted.

There's a handful of her albums I don't have, but just heard a couple of songs from. Night Ride Home is one of them.

I know Cassandra Wilson a bit...

She's great. One of my faves. :nod:

sparky

11-02-2005, 08:01 PM

There's a handful of her albums I don't have, but just heard a couple of songs from. Night Ride Home is one of them.

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

You must get it and you must get it NOW. You need to listen to it with headphones, and preferably with a cocktail. In the dark. I can practically guarantee that you will not even be able to MOVE for the first seven songs.
Lord have mercy, if you lived down the street I would buy a copy FOR you and bring it over right now. That is how good I think it is.

markolas

11-02-2005, 08:12 PM

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

You must get it and you must get it NOW. You need to listen to it with headphones, and preferably with a cocktail. In the dark. I can practically guarantee that you will not even be able to MOVE for the first seven songs.
Lord have mercy, if you lived down the street I would buy a copy FOR you and bring it over right now. That is how good I think it is.

Wow...as soon as I've got some fundage, I'll have to get ahold of it, then. :)

ragandbone

11-02-2005, 08:38 PM

Wow...as soon as I've got some fundage, I'll have to get ahold of it, then. :)
Me too...I haven't bought one of her records since Dog Eat Dog (not really a favorite.) I love Blue, Court and Spark, and Ladies of The Canyon the best, with Hejira and Hissing of Summer Lawns right behind.

markolas

11-02-2005, 08:40 PM

Me too...I haven't bought one of her records since Dog Eat Dog (not really a favorite.) I love Blue, Court and Spark, and Ladies of The Canyon the best, with Hejira and Hissing of Summer Lawns right behind.

I don't have her very first one, but I have everything from Clouds through Hejira, plus Turbulent Indigo. I have owned Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, Chalk Mark in a Rain Storm (neither of which I cared for much), Taming the Tiger, Both Sides Now, and Travelogue, but I sold them at a used CD place a while back.

sara1998

11-02-2005, 08:43 PM

I'd actually really love to read Mein Kampf, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal here, and I don't want to ask around for fear of being deported...
What is it and why would you be deported? Now I'm intrigued!

dissention

11-02-2005, 08:49 PM

What is it and why would you be deported? Now I'm intrigued!

It's Hitler's book and I *believe* our friend is in Germany at the moment. Or he's studying German, at least, as demonstrated by his reading Musarion.

sara1998

11-02-2005, 08:56 PM

I think Mein Kampf is Hitlers manifesto? A quick google-oo would answer that, though.
I don't know why the deportation.
Why google it when I can ask you??? :D

sara1998

11-02-2005, 08:57 PM

It's Hitler's book and I *believe* our friend is in Germany at the moment. Or he's studying German, at least, as demonstrated by his reading Musarion.
Thank you. I was too busy over at the Dirty Sanchez thread to go and google it! ;)

Jyqm

11-03-2005, 04:09 AM

It's Hitler's book and I *believe* our friend is in Germany at the moment. Or he's studying German, at least, as demonstrated by his reading Musarion.

Bingo and bango.

Mein Kampf is Hitler's manifesto, written in 1924 when he was in jail for something or other. (It's just like Martin Luther King's book, only, you know, evil.) And as I think mentioned elsewhere in this thread, since the book is considered "Nazi propaganda" its sale is illegal in Germany. It's available only in specific annotated editions for academic use.

Although of course these days it's online all over the place in different forms, so that's becoming increasingly difficult to enforce.

cliffdweller

11-03-2005, 09:36 AM

I like her older/deeper voice to an extent, but it seems like it's deteriorated even since Turbulent Indigo

Agreed. Love me some Joni though. I think Hejira was her last "great" album. Night Ride Home is her last really good album. She was at the pinnacle with Blue, For The Roses, and Court and Spark imo. I also love Ladies of the Canyon and have either of you heard that early song, "Tin Soldier?" I think that's early Joni at her best.

So is Travelogue a "jazzy" experimental reworking of her songs? I don't like that overly jazzy business :laugh:.

markolas

11-03-2005, 09:40 AM

Agreed. Love me some Joni though. I think Hejira was her last "great" album. Night Ride Home is her last really good album. She was at the pinnacle with Blue, For The Roses, and Court and Spark imo. I also love Ladies of the Canyon and have either of you heard that early song, "Tin Soldier?" I think that's early Joni at her best.

So is Travelogue a "jazzy" experimental reworking of her songs? I don't like that overly jazzy business :laugh:.

Oh, I think Turbulent Indigo was greatness. :nod:

Travelogue is an orchestral reworking of her songs; I wouldn't call it jazz. And what's with nobody liking jazz on this board??? Geez. ;)

And I haven't heard Tin Soldier. Unless you mean Tin Angel.

cliffdweller

11-03-2005, 09:42 AM

Oh, I think Turbulent Indigo was greatness. :nod:

Travelogue is an orchestral reworking of her songs; I wouldn't call it jazz. And what's with nobody liking jazz on this board??? Geez. ;)

And I haven't heard Tin Soldier. Unless you mean Tin Angel.

Sh*t, yes, Tin Angel, what the hell am I thinking? :laugh:

Yeah, never been a big fan of white, hippy ladies doing jazz :laugh: The way I see it, if it's gonna be jazz, then let it be REAL jazz..uh, oh, did I just enter a purist debate? :laugh:

markolas

11-03-2005, 09:44 AM

Sh*t, yes, Tin Angel, what the hell am I thinking? :laugh:

Yeah, never been a big fan of white, hippy ladies doing jazz :laugh: The way I see it, if it's gonna be jazz, then let it be REAL jazz..uh, oh, did I just enter a purist debate? :laugh:

Ermm...so it's only jazz if black people perform it?? :shocked:

cliffdweller

11-03-2005, 09:49 AM

Ermm...so it's only jazz if black people perform it?? :shocked:

Uh, hell no. I just don't like jazz that sounds like Steely Dan :p. I DO like Ricki Lee Jones so there! And I also think John Zorn is a genius. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't like "jazz" packaged as a fusion of easy listening and watered down jazz. Maybe it's just her brand of "jazz" that I don't like. Yeah, that's it.

Jyqm

11-03-2005, 10:02 AM

Ermm...so it's only jazz if black people perform it?? :shocked:

Boy, I hope not. I've always had a soft spot for Vince Guaraldi's Charlie Brown music...

Has anyone here ever heard Jane Monheit? Really wonderful young (white) jazz singer with a wonderful, soulful voice, which she has great control over. She goes for some really interesting and beautiful notes in her songs.

Jyqm

11-03-2005, 10:04 AM

Uh, hell no. I just don't like jazz that sounds like Steely Dan :p.

I enjoy Steely Dan's first album well enough (which is not really all that jazzy and has stuff like "Reelin' in the Years" on it), but I've never understood all of the critical praise they seem to get. Their music is just so... pussified, for lack of a better word. Aja bores me to tears.

cliffdweller

11-03-2005, 10:32 AM

but I've never understood all of the critical praise they seem to get. They're music is just so... pussified, for lack of a better word. Aja bores me to tears.

I totally agree. I've NEVER understood the appeal of Steely Dan. They are like brussell sprouts to me; much like brussell sprouts are the one vegetable I cannot stomach, Steely Dan is one of the only big bands of the 70's that I truly cannot stand.

gldstwmn

11-03-2005, 12:24 PM

Madonna-Confessions On A Dancefloor. I can't say it's growing on me yet.:shrug:

dissention

11-03-2005, 12:36 PM

Madonna-Confessions On A Dancefloor. I can't say it's growing on me yet.:shrug:

Wrong thread, but I agree. :laugh: It hasn't exactly bowled me over yet.

EDIT: Okay, I'm really digging it now. I practically love every song but Future Lovers and I Love New York (oh, the horror of that one). The way that each track bleeds into the next is uber cool to me. Isaac has to be one of her greatest songs.

markolas

11-03-2005, 12:39 PM

Wrong thread, but I agree. :laugh: It hasn't exactly bowled me over yet.

Do people still listen to her?

dissention

11-03-2005, 12:44 PM

Do people still listen to her?

Do people still listen to Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks? :shocked:

I don't know, her last album bombed (and rightfully so), but I predict this new one will be a monster. Too bad that "Hung Up" is one kick-ass album track and the single version destroyed it.

Sarah

11-03-2005, 03:16 PM

thin blue line. the randall adams story.

it's really good. i need to finish, but a friend picked it up and started it, then ganked it. lame.

markolas

11-04-2005, 09:43 AM

Do people still listen to Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks? :shocked:

I don't know, her last album bombed (and rightfully so), but I predict this new one will be a monster. Too bad that "Hung Up" is one kick-ass album track and the single version destroyed it.

I'm sooo over Madonna...have been since about 1998. :shrug:

markolas

11-04-2005, 09:44 AM

Uh, hell no. I just don't like jazz that sounds like Steely Dan :p. I DO like Ricki Lee Jones so there! And I also think John Zorn is a genius. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't like "jazz" packaged as a fusion of easy listening and watered down jazz. Maybe it's just her brand of "jazz" that I don't like. Yeah, that's it.

Hmm...I've never really put Joni and Steely Dan in the same boat. But, then I only know two songs by Steely Dan. :p :laugh:

markolas

11-04-2005, 09:46 AM

I totally agree. I've NEVER understood the appeal of Steely Dan. They are like brussell sprouts to me; much like brussell sprouts are the one vegetable I cannot stomach, Steely Dan is one of the only big bands of the 70's that I truly cannot stand.

Heh. I don't really care for '70s bands, generally. FM and the Eagles are about the only two.

cliffdweller

11-04-2005, 09:51 AM

Hmm...I've never really put Joni and Steely Dan in the same boat. But, then I only know two songs by Steely Dan. :p :laugh:

Well of course I like Joni a helluva lot more than I like S.D., but to me, they're both doing the same kind of boring jazzy, adult contemporary, easy listening kind of thing. But if locked in a room and only given the choice of one over the other I'd still pick Joni in a heartbeat. I LOVE all of her albums up through Court and Spark and then it just gets too muddy for me, except for Hejira. I do like that album. As far as her current vocal quality...maybe she should have laid off the 2 packs a day habit in her previous years :laugh:.

cliffdweller

11-04-2005, 09:53 AM

Heh. I don't really care for '70s bands, generally. FM and the Eagles are about the only two.

You don't like Led Zeppelin? Heart? Blondie? How about The Clash? There were lots of amazing bands in the 70's.

markolas

11-04-2005, 09:54 AM

Well of course I like Joni a helluva lot more than I like S.D., but to me, they're both doing the same kind of boring jazzy, adult contemporary, easy listening kind of thing. But if locked in a room and only given the choice of one over the other I'd still pick Joni in a heartbeat. I LOVE all of her albums up through Court and Spark and then it just gets too muddy for me, except for Hejira. I do like that album. As far as her current vocal quality...maybe she should have laid off the 2 packs a day habit in her previous years :laugh:.

Ermm...well, which albums of hers are you talking about, specifically? She kind of laid off the jazz stuff after Mingus.

markolas

11-04-2005, 09:57 AM

You don't like Led Zeppelin? Heart? Blondie? How about The Clash? There were lots of amazing bands in the 70's.

LZ is too hard for me. I like '70s Heart okay, but not '80s Heart. I love Blondie, but I don't really think of them as a "70s" band. The Clash is also too loud/hard.

When I think of '70s bands, I think of...Chicago, Boston, Foreigner, Queen, etc. Blech, blech, blech. :sorry:

cliffdweller

11-04-2005, 10:01 AM

Ermm...well, which albums of hers are you talking about, specifically? She kind of laid off the jazz stuff after Mingus.

I'm mainly talking about the stuff after Court and Spark--even on that album hints of adult contemporary were peeking through. Let's see, her 80's stuff was not all that hot...I had Night Ride Home which is pretty good and I bought Turbulent Indigo which I HATED, mainly b/c of her voice, if memory serves. It's been a long time since I listened to that. I was flipping through the channels the other day and Bravo was showing that performance of hers she put on a few years ago where she was putting a jazzified spin on stuff like "Big Yellow Taxi" and I just couldn't stomach it. Maybe that left a bad taste in my mouth :laugh:. I'm sorry, the funny thing is, years ago, I was the biggest Joni Mitchell fan you'd ever meet! I just think her stuff of late is kind of unsavory due to the deterioration of her once amazing voice. I think she was a vocal peak on Court and Spark. I dunno, maybe I should give her more recent stuff another shot...

cliffdweller

11-04-2005, 10:06 AM

LZ is too hard for me. I like '70s Heart okay, but not '80s Heart. I love Blondie, but I don't really think of them as a "70s" band. The Clash is also too loud/hard.

When I think of '70s bands, I think of...Chicago, Boston, Foreigner, Queen, etc. Blech, blech, blech. :sorry:

Oh, I guess we have different notions of great 70's bands. But Queen, Queen isn't bad. Freddie Mercury had one of the greatest rock voices ever.

More great bands/musicians of the 70's: Neil Young and Crazy Horse (or Neil solo), Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, The Ramones, Talking Heads, Sly and the Family Stone, Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen, Linda Ronstadt, Patti Smith...all these bands came out in the 70's (with the exception of Neil and Linda but to me, they were definitively 70's) granted, they all weren't huge yet, but still...

markolas

11-04-2005, 12:28 PM

I'm mainly talking about the stuff after Court and Spark--even on that album hints of adult contemporary were peeking through. Let's see, her 80's stuff was not all that hot...I had Night Ride Home which is pretty good and I bought Turbulent Indigo which I HATED, mainly b/c of her voice, if memory serves.

I can barely stand to listen to any of her albums before Blue, because I can't tolerate her ear-drum shattering, high-pitched squealing. :D Blue is truly a great album. Was never able to totally get into For the Roses, though.

I loooove C&S, Hissing of Summer Lawns, and Hejira. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is where she kind of lost me.

The only one of her '80s albums I've heard in its entirety was Chalk Mark in a Rain Storm, and I was *not* impressed. Turbulent Indigo is right up there with Blue and Hejira for me, though...I know her voice had gotten much lower, but I kind of like it that way. :D

It's been a long time since I listened to that. I was flipping through the channels the other day and Bravo was showing that performance of hers she put on a few years ago where she was putting a jazzified spin on stuff like "Big Yellow Taxi" and I just couldn't stomach it.

Hmm...if this is the same show I'm thinking of...I don't think it was really a "jazzified spin" so much as she was playing the songs on a "computerized" guitar thing...she has arthritis (or something) and can't play regular guitar anymore. :distress: But I like this concert (again, if it's the same one I'm thinking of...from 1998 or thereabouts?).

Maybe that left a bad taste in my mouth :laugh:. I'm sorry, the funny thing is, years ago, I was the biggest Joni Mitchell fan you'd ever meet! I just think her stuff of late is kind of unsavory due to the deterioration of her once amazing voice. I think she was a vocal peak on Court and Spark. I dunno, maybe I should give her more recent stuff another shot...

I dunno...if you really like hear early voice, I can see where you'd be disappointed with the way it sounds now. But for me, like I said, those early albums of hers make my ears bleed.

markolas

11-04-2005, 12:29 PM

Oh, I guess we have different notions of great 70's bands. But Queen, Queen isn't bad. Freddie Mercury had one of the greatest rock voices ever.

More great bands/musicians of the 70's: Neil Young and Crazy Horse (or Neil solo), Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, The Ramones, Talking Heads, Sly and the Family Stone, Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen, Linda Ronstadt, Patti Smith...all these bands came out in the 70's (with the exception of Neil and Linda but to me, they were definitively 70's) granted, they all weren't huge yet, but still...

Well...I like a lot of those on the list. Generally, the more mellow, country/folk influenced, the more I like them...once you start with the heavy metal-ish stuff, you lose me (Black Sabbath, etc).