Christine forum

[David]

This Christine forum should be hopping a lot more regularly. Don't you Chris fans have anything more to talk about? Get going! If I had a whip, I'd use it . . .

[strandinthewind]

This Christine forum should be hopping a lot more regularly. Don't you Chris fans have anything more to talk about? Get going! If I had a whip, I'd use it . . .

I hear she played a Moog of stage for its lighter sound :wavey:

Seriously, let's go through what she played and when. Also, what percussion she played.

Did she ever play a Bosendorfer on stage?

[GateandGarden]

This Christine forum should be hopping a lot more regularly. Don't you Chris fans have anything more to talk about? Get going! If I had a whip, I'd use it . . .Eh, I've been in a pissed-off at the world lately and haven't felt like being an active Ledgie or a nice person but I am playing "Believe Me" right now. :thumbsup:

[David]

Did she ever play a Bosendorfer on stage?I don't think so. The only two brands I know of she used live are Hamilton & Yamaha. There must have been others, obviously, at least in the early days.

[gldstwmn]

I loved it when she played the accordion on Tusk. :o

[macfan 57]

I liked when she played that percussion thing during "Second Hand News" on the Rumours tour.

By the way, isn't everyone relieved that we don't ever have to worry about Christine McVie trying to sell something in a grocery store?:laugh:

[gldstwmn]

I liked when she played that percussion thing during "Second Hand News" on the Rumours tour.

By the way, isn't everyone relieved that we don't ever have to worry about Christine McVie trying to sell something in a grocery store?:laugh:

Yes! :laugh:

[ThePenguin]

By the way, isn't everyone relieved that we don't ever have to worry about Christine McVie trying to sell something in a grocery store?:laugh:

Now there's a picture.....:)

--Lis

[jbrownsjr]

This Christine forum should be hopping a lot more regularly. Don't you Chris fans have anything more to talk about? Get going! If I had a whip, I'd use it . . .

i like it like that ;)

[GypsySorcerer]

Get going! If I had a whip, I'd use it . . .
Well, if you're into that sort of thing....:shocked:

[goldustsongbird]

Eh, I've been in a pissed-off at the world lately and haven't felt like being an active Ledgie or a nice person but I am playing "Believe Me" right now. :thumbsup:

Aw, I could've been listening to that too, since I spotted "Mystery To Me" at the mall, but opted to buy Stevie's "Wild Heart" instead. Next time, though... that was there, along with Bare Trees. As I stood in the store, checking out the FM albums, I was trying to figure out which one had more Christine songs on it, since I only had enough money for one CD. :laugh:

[GateandGarden]

Aw, I could've been listening to that too, since I spotted "Mystery To Me" at the mall, but opted to buy Stevie's "Wild Heart" instead. Next time, though... that was there, along with Bare Trees. As I stood in the store, checking out the FM albums, I was trying to figure out which one had more Christine songs on it, since I only had enough money for one CD. :laugh:Lisa!!!!!!!!! :laugh: You don't have Mystery to Me???????? You're killing me. You don't have Bare Trees????? You just got The Wild Heart????? Oh my God. I think this is an emergency. Do I need to be sending you some songs? On that note, did you get "Jewel-Eyed Judy"? I've been sitting here tired as hell and hardly able to keep my eyes open and then I get this jolt from reading your post! :laugh:

Have you at least heard the songs on those albums?

[goldustsongbird]

Lisa!!!!!!!!! :laugh: You don't have Mystery to Me???????? You're killing me. You don't have Bare Trees????? You just got The Wild Heart????? Oh my God. I think this is an emergency. Do I need to be sending you some songs. On that note, did you get "Jewel-Eyed Judy"? I've been sitting here tired as hell and hardly able to keep my eyes open and then I get this jolt from reading your post! :laugh:

Have you at least heard the songs on those albums?

I know! I had Mystery to Me all ready to bring up to the cash register, when I decided to check out their Stevie selection. Usually all they have is Timespace and BellaDonna, so I didn't expect to find anything.

The Wild Heart is kinda... bah.... I'm not wild (ha ha) about it. Except for the title track, Stand Back, Nightbird and Sable on Blonde, the rest of the album didn't really grab me.

Don't worry, I've at least heard the songs. I'm not that bad. :lol:

Yep, just checked my email-- Got Jewel Eyed Judy, thanks! *goes off to listen*

PS: If it makes you feel any better, I would've gotten all THREE of those albums, if I'd had more money on me!

[GateandGarden]

I know! I had Mystery to Me all ready to bring up to the cash register, when I decided to check out their Stevie selection. Usually all they have is Timespace and BellaDonna, so I didn't expect to find anything.

The Wild Heart is kinda... bah.... I'm not wild (ha ha) about it. Except for the title track, Stand Back, Nightbird and Sable on Blonde, the rest of the album didn't really grab me.

Don't worry, I've at least heard the songs. I'm not that bad. :lol:

Yep, just checked my email-- Got Jewel Eyed Judy, thanks! *goes off to listen*

PS: If it makes you feel any better, I would've gotten all THREE of those albums, if I'd had more money on me!Most of the people who frequent this forum are going to question your sanity after they see you've confessed to choosing TWH over MTM. :lol:

Aw, TWH is my fave Stevie album. It wasn't always my fave, but it grew on me. Of course I have this damn username that I'm sick of at this point. There's a really gay story behind that, which I told one day in August here (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=398829&postcount=26) when I left my inhibitions somewhere else. So, it's special to me but then I can kind of see why some find it generally boring. I totally agree with the ones you mentioned, though "Sable on Blond" had to grow on me. It's now one of my favorites of all of her works. "Nothing Ever Changes" really grew on me, too.

I definitely understand not buying all of it at once; I didn't either, though I've been very tempted to. (And I'm still working on it). Just let me know if you ever want me to e-mail you anything else. :)

[goldustsongbird]

Most of the people who frequent this forum are going to question your sanity after they see you've confessed to choosing TWH over MTM. :lol:

Aw, TWH is my fave Stevie album. It wasn't always my fave, but it grew on me. Of course I have this damn username that I'm sick of at this point. There's a really gay story behind that, which I told one day in August here (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=398829&postcount=26) when I left my inhibitions somewhere else. So, it's special to me but then I can kind of see why some find it generally boring. I totally agree with the ones you mentioned, though "Sable on Blond" had to grow on me. It's now one of my favorites of all of her works. "Nothing Ever Changes" really grew on me, too.

I definitely understand not buying all of it at once; I didn't either, though I've been very tempted to. (And I'm still working on it). Just let me know if you ever want me to e-mail you anything else. :)

LMAO! Don't worry, I question my sanity daily. ;)

Interesting story. I don't find it boring at all! I can relate, somewhat, in the sense that I've liked people (okay, girls), who don't see me 'in that way'. I'm going through that right now, actually. Luckily, this close friend of mine likes to er, joke around sexually? and tries to seduce me every so often. Among other things. LOL. She says it's all in fun, and I believe her, since she's crazy about men. But she does admit to people like Christine, and Stevie and Cyndi being hot. Which makes me smile.

[macfan 57]

Aw, I could've been listening to that too, since I spotted "Mystery To Me" at the mall, but opted to buy Stevie's "Wild Heart" instead. Next time, though... that was there, along with Bare Trees. As I stood in the store, checking out the FM albums, I was trying to figure out which one had more Christine songs on it, since I only had enough money for one CD. :laugh:

Get Mystery To Me!

It boggles the mind how anyone could pick any Stevie Nicks solo album over Mystery To Me, which in my opinion is the best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did.:shocked: Seriously, MTM is perfection & it has "Hynotized" & especially, "Why" on it. Get Mystery To Me:)

[macfan 57]

Did anyone notice that the activity on this board picked up as soon as David threatened to get out the whip.:lol: :lol:

[GateandGarden]

LMAO! Don't worry, I question my sanity daily. ;)Me too! :laugh:

Interesting story. I don't find it boring at all! I can relate, somewhat, in the sense that I've liked people (okay, girls), who don't see me 'in that way'. I'm going through that right now, actually. Luckily, this close friend of mine likes to er, joke around sexually? and tries to seduce me every so often. Among other things. LOL. She says it's all in fun, and I believe her, since she's crazy about men. But she does admit to people like Christine, and Stevie and Cyndi being hot. Which makes me smile.Oh, thanks for reading it! I post it but then I don't assume someone's actually going to read it. :laugh: I am the queen of liking women who don't see me 'in that way,' so we're definitely in the same boat there. (Well, me more so I'm sure). Your friend sounds like a lot of fun. Even if she's really exclusively straight, at least y'all can joke about it. :thumbsup: And those three ladies? What straight woman wouldn't like them? :nod:

[GateandGarden]

Get Mystery To Me!

It boggles the mind how anyone could pick any Stevie Nicks solo album over Mystery To Me, which in my opinion is the best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did.:shocked: Seriously, MTM is perfection & it has "Hynotized" & especially, "Why" on it. Get Mystery To Me:)See, did I call that or what? :D

[David]

Get Mystery To Me!

It boggles the mind how anyone could pick any Stevie Nicks solo album over Mystery To Me, which in my opinion is the best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did.:shocked: Seriously, MTM is perfection & it has "Hynotized" & especially, "Why" on it. Get Mystery To Me:)I think MTM is overrated by a bunch of you guys. It's a decent collection of tunes & performances -- about par for Fleetwood Mac. It lacks the visionary excitement of Heroes Are Hard To Find, the roots music realism of Dog & Dustbin, & the miniaturist multifacetedness in tracking of Rumours.

A lot of you are letting your nostalgia run away with you -- or maybe it's more of a nostalgie de la boue.

The truly epic "Keep On Going" is mostly what gives MTM its B-12.

[David]

Did anyone notice that the activity on this board picked up as soon as David threatened to get out the whip.:lol: :lol:Holy crap, it did ... a little! :lol: :shocked:

You guys with your cute little sadomasochisms!! :lol: The Chris board here could really be the most seriously happening place of all of the forums, if only you guys would take a little action & start conceptualizing. I howl with frustration when I see the stasis here. It oozes like blood plasma from a severed arterial wall.

[GateandGarden]

I think MTM is overrated by a bunch of you guys. It's a decent collection of tunes & performances -- about par for Fleetwood Mac. It lacks the visionary excitement of Heroes Are Hard To Find, the roots music realism of Dog & Dustbin, & the miniaturist multifacetedness in tracking of Rumours.

A lot of you are letting your nostalgia run away with you -- or maybe it's more of a nostalgie de la boue.

The truly epic "Keep On Going" is mostly what gives MTM its B-12.Blasphemy! :laugh: And I'm too tired to argue about it any more than that. :laugh:

[GateandGarden]

It oozes like blood plasma from a severed arterial wall.Oh, and thank you for that lovely image. :wavey:

[SortaSavageLike]

The truly epic "Keep On Going" is mostly what gives MTM its B-12.

B-12?

Fleetwood Mac's Mystery To Me! Helping maintain healthy red blood cells since 1973. Buy a copy today! :D :shrug:

Oh, and GateandGarden, I bought copies of MTM and BD within an hour of each other. So I'm not insane, I'm just dysfunctional. :blob1:

[GateandGarden]

Oh, and GateandGarden, I bought copies of MTM and BD within an hour of each other. So I'm not insane, I'm just dysfunctional. :blob1::laugh: It took me forever to get MTM. I was just plain crazy in the head for that.

Oh, and call me Hillary. :)

[Gailh]

[QUOTE=David]Don't you Chris fans have anything more to talk about?/QUOTE]

Aren't you including yourself?? "You Chris fans"

Gail

[goldustsongbird]

Get Mystery To Me!

It boggles the mind how anyone could pick any Stevie Nicks solo album over Mystery To Me, which in my opinion is the best thing Fleetwood Mac ever did.:shocked: Seriously, MTM is perfection & it has "Hynotized" & especially, "Why" on it. Get Mystery To Me:)

Fine, fine! :P Next time I make a trip to the mall, I'll get it. If they don't have it, I'll... buy... something else!

I'm actually looking for Heroes are Hard to Find, but haven't had any luck. Guess the title speaks for itself. :laugh:

[goldustsongbird]

Oh, thanks for reading it! I post it but then I don't assume someone's actually going to read it. :laugh: I am the queen of liking women who don't see me 'in that way,' so we're definitely in the same boat there. (Well, me more so I'm sure). Your friend sounds like a lot of fun. Even if she's really exclusively straight, at least y'all can joke about it. :thumbsup: And those three ladies? What straight woman wouldn't like them? :nod:

Oh, she's insane!! It's fun times when she's around. Take for example, Friday night, when she sang directly into my ear in her best Marilyn Manson voice (She thinks he's the hottest thing alive. It's one of the few things we disagree on, though I do like his music), and then tackled me. :laugh:

[GateandGarden]

Oh, she's insane!! It's fun times when she's around. Take for example, Friday night, when she sang directly into my ear in her best Marilyn Manson voice (She thinks he's the hottest thing alive. It's one of the few things we disagree on, though I do like his music), and then tackled me. :laugh:I actually have a Marilyn Manson voice that I sing in for the hell of it. I made my best friend listen to it at one point. We actually taped it. But you know, it really hurts one's throat. :laugh:

She think he's hot? :shocked: :laugh:

[goldustsongbird]

I actually have a Marilyn Manson voice that I sing in for the hell of it. I made my best friend listen to it at one point. We actually taped it. But you know, it really hurts one's throat. :laugh:

She think he's hot? :shocked: :laugh:

Yeah, I've attempted. Actually, with this sore throat of mine, I could probably do a pretty decent imitation.

She wants to marry him! :eek:

[David]

Aren't you including yourself?? "You Chris fans"I must admit, I do love me some Chris. She's the only one I can stand in rock music over the long term. Everyone else just annoys me.

[DavidMn]

Eh, I've been in a pissed-off at the world lately and haven't felt like being an active Ledgie or a nice person but I am playing "Believe Me" right now. :thumbsup:U doin ok. Hope all is well :wavey:

[GateandGarden]

U doin ok. Hope all is well :wavey:Aw, thanks. :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

I don't think so. The only two brands I know of she used live are Hamilton & Yamaha. There must have been others, obviously, at least in the early days.


I wonder how many pianos she has in her home. La Nicks has those two we saw in that photo spread of her Phoenix house and a keyboard or two. But, I see Chris with several as well. After all, she had them craned into hotel suites :laugh:

[macfan 57]

I wonder how many pianos she has in her home. La Nicks has those two we saw in that photo spread of her Phoenix house and a keyboard or two. But, I see Chris with several as well. After all, she had them craned into hotel suites :laugh:

She has at least one in her house...the original one that she used to write "Songbird".

[strandinthewind]

She has at least one in her house...the original one that she used to write "Songbird".

I wonder what kind or make it is?

I also see her with an upright and maybe a pipe organ :laugh:

I love her :nod:

[macfan 57]

I wonder what kind or make it is?

I also see her with an upright and maybe a pipe organ :laugh:

I love her :nod:

Probably a Yamaha, since that's always been her preferred brand.

[strandinthewind]

Probably a Yamaha, since that's always been her preferred brand.

I wonder is she, like Stevie, has a Bosendorfer and if so, if she ever plays in the extra octave on each side?

We need answers to these questions LOL

[HomerMcvie]

Probably a Yamaha, since that's always been her preferred brand.
Honestly, it was probably an endorsement from Yamaha, that resulted in her preference. Nothing says "love" like a free grand piano.:nod:

[chiliD]

I think MTM is overrated by a bunch of you guys. It's a decent collection of tunes & performances -- about par for Fleetwood Mac. It lacks the visionary excitement of Heroes Are Hard To Find, the roots music realism of Dog & Dustbin, & the miniaturist multifacetedness in tracking of Rumours.

I think you're becoming a curmudgeon in your old age, David. MTM is the best album Fleetwood Mac has ever released. That said, it is incomparable to ANY other Fleetwood Mac album due to its strength from track to track...no other Fleetwood Mac album can even come CLOSE to claiming that. There is NO weak link on MTM. Even their cover tune has been revamp to become a Fleetwood Mac song. Can't say that about ANY other cover that Fleetwood Mac has recorded...(well, maybe "Blue Letter")

[David]

I think you're becoming a curmudgeon in your old age, David. MTM is the best album Fleetwood Mac has ever released. That said, it is incomparable to ANY other Fleetwood Mac album due to its strength from track to track...no other Fleetwood Mac album can even come CLOSE to claiming that. There is NO weak link on MTM.I think there are a lot of weak links on the album, including a number of faults of taste, faults of arrangement, faults of production, faults of songwriting. "Keep On Going" is certainly a keeper, though, & "Forever" is catchy & a personal favorite ... I wish I could play it with a group.

[David]

Honestly, it was probably an endorsement from Yamaha, that resulted in her preference. Nothing says "love" like a free grand piano.:nod:Do you think so? I don't know ... what she has said over the years really sounds like pure consumer satisfaction with Yamaha product -- not a bought opinion.

It's not at all surprising to find pro pianists crowing about Yamaha pianos. They're 'grand.' ;)

[strandinthewind]

. . . It's not at all surprising to find pro pianists crowing about Yamaha pianos. They're 'grand.' ;)

They are great, but in the 90's they suffered a little in quality IMO.

Steinway will continue to be my fav.

[chiliD]

It's not at all surprising to find pro pianists crowing about Yamaha pianos. They're 'grand.' ;)

When you take a Steinway and copy it piece-by-piece, yeah, it's going to be a "grand" product.

[HomerMcvie]

Do you think so? I don't know ... what she has said over the years really sounds like pure consumer satisfaction with Yamaha product -- not a bought opinion.

It's not at all surprising to find pro pianists crowing about Yamaha pianos. They're 'grand.' ;)
Yeah, well, if Yamaha wants to give me a free grand piano, I'll go to the ends of the Earth proclaiming their greatness. Hell, I'll even get Yamaha tattoos!

[strandinthewind]

When you take a Steinway and copy it piece-by-piece, yeah, it's going to be a "grand" product.

and then sell your production to the Koreans :eek:

[David]

Yeah, well, if Yamaha wants to give me a free grand piano, I'll go to the ends of the Earth proclaiming their greatness. Hell, I'll even get Yamaha tattoos!You guys are all being perverse & contrarian. Yamahas have outstanding reputations, not because they copy Steinway (?) or because they accept endorsements in exchange for product or because they might be assembled in Korea or Timbuktu or because they have extra octaves at both ends (?), but because they are traditionally outstanding pianos. They are & have been in use in recording studios & on stages throughout the world for decades.

Christine has stuck with Yamaha all these years because she LIKES THEM.

I'm not familiar with Yamaha's alleged recent deterioration vis-a-vis the Korea production facilities, but every piano sooner or later goes through some less than stellar times: it happened to Steinway in the early 1980s with CBS & New York. Steinways took a dive in quality. During my summers at Idyllwild School of Music & the Arts through the USC Department of Music, I remember hearing my teachers complain about the then-recent problems with Steinway.

Even Rolls-Royce suffered during her affiliation with BMW. We live in an era of corporate dillydallying & takeovers. You may never really know where your car or your piano or your pacemaker is assembled.

Besides, pianos are all so individual. I have played crappy-feeling & crappy-sounding Steinways, Yamahas & others, but I have also played awesome Steins & Yams. You can run into a bad piano if it hasn't been taken care of, but you can't automatically paint the whole brand black -- even if a particular model doesn't suit your personal preferences. I grew up playing a Yamaha baby grand & it was great then & my sister still has it & it still feels great & sounds darn good.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

I am getting you a Samick :wavey:

[jbrownsjr]

i'm getting david a casio 66 key

[Alexbt]

I think that Christine only has the one Yamaha 7' grand from Songbird & touring homage.

In her house, that is. Her studio/barn may be another story.

I actually wonder if she's kept her portablized B3. It is not shown in the videos on her website, but her Yamaha KX-88 controller is. Of course, we still have no idea what she's using for patches, as the KX-88 is just that, a controller with no onboard sounds.

Now, as for rating pianos.. I've played many types. They are very different, though all pianos are different.

Steinway is your all around piano. It embodies what most pianos are. I've played a Bosendorfer once, for a concert this past spring. It had a dark rich tone that was very pleasing and interesting. And let me tell you, there isn't much use for the extra keys at the bottom. I tried to throw them in on something, but it was jazz and and the music we were playing wouldn't get much use of them.

Yamahas tend to have a brighter sound, which makes them more ideal for playing onstage.

Kawai pianos (especially uprights) are utter crap. We have a contract at my college and get a dozen new ones every two years. The new ones came this semester and they're just as bad as the ones from last year, except they haven't broken down yet. We have two Kawai grands-a 7' and a baby grand. They are decent, but not superb. Unfortunately, our 9' Steinway rarely gets taken out. :(

So yes, I can understand why she might like them, but then again, she's been using their products for years, so it makes sense.

[macfan 57]

Yamahas tend to have a brighter sound, which makes them more ideal for playing onstage.


I have an interview where she says exactly that.

By the way, Alexbt or anyone who's a keyboard expert, someone asked a question about her In The Meantime keyboards on the message board on Christine's website. No one has answered the question. I don't think any keyboards gurus check her board.

[strandinthewind]

I think that Christine only has the one Yamaha 7' grand from Songbird & touring homage.

In her house, that is. Her studio/barn may be another story.

I actually wonder if she's kept her portablized B3. It is not shown in the videos on her website, but her Yamaha KX-88 controller is. Of course, we still have no idea what she's using for patches, as the KX-88 is just that, a controller with no onboard sounds.

Now, as for rating pianos.. I've played many types. They are very different, though all pianos are different.

Steinway is your all around piano. It embodies what most pianos are. I've played a Bosendorfer once, for a concert this past spring. It had a dark rich tone that was very pleasing and interesting. And let me tell you, there isn't much use for the extra keys at the bottom. I tried to throw them in on something, but it was jazz and and the music we were playing wouldn't get much use of them.

Yamahas tend to have a brighter sound, which makes them more ideal for playing onstage.

Kawai pianos (especially uprights) are utter crap. We have a contract at my college and get a dozen new ones every two years. The new ones came this semester and they're just as bad as the ones from last year, except they haven't broken down yet. We have two Kawai grands-a 7' and a baby grand. They are decent, but not superb. Unfortunately, our 9' Steinway rarely gets taken out. :(

So yes, I can understand why she might like them, but then again, she's been using their products for years, so it makes sense.

Thanks for that info. I think I saw her B3 in those Meantime publicity stuff released to support the record.

Also, take about that D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/SteinwayD-600.jpg

more often and give it a whirl - not playing it is almost like going on a date with Catherine Deneuve and not kissing her :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Kawai pianos sound really new agey to me, or they are still and dull. I don't like them either.