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reebokandlace
10-28-2005, 11:45 AM
Indicted 5 counts!!! Felony charges!!!

Purgery -- obstruction of justice -- giving false statements

gldstwmn
10-28-2005, 11:50 AM
:blob1: :] :blob2: :blob1: :] :blob2:

GypsySorcerer
10-28-2005, 11:50 AM
May Rove be next. :]

GODDESS6
10-28-2005, 11:55 AM
May Rove be next. :]
i hear that, i keep watching the news!!!~

ELIUD
10-28-2005, 12:02 PM
Red rover red rover send Rove and Cheney right over.

Beachwood Mac
10-28-2005, 12:10 PM
Libby just resigned

reebokandlace
10-28-2005, 12:20 PM
:blob1: :] :blob2: :blob1: :] :blob2:


I knew you'd be happy!!! :wavey:

Cheney is next! Except he has friends in high places....:rolleyes:

I think Libby is the scapegoat.

chiliD
10-28-2005, 12:25 PM
"Indicted" doesn't equal "conviction", however...so I'm keeping my enthusiasm tempered for the moment.

In Rove's case, though..."Hangin's just too good for 'im!

dissention
10-28-2005, 12:35 PM
And with the extension of the grand jury, the **** hasn't yet begun to hit the fan. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, ChimpCo!

dissention
10-28-2005, 12:54 PM
This is interesting:

http://www.rawstory2.com/

Bolton eyed as indictment reveals State Dept aided Libby; Sources confirm State Dept., NSC officials made deal with Fitzgerald... Soon...

irishgrl
10-28-2005, 01:08 PM
Rove is MY real wish target. Libby is a throwaway, but ROVE would be a true prize. Pleez let him be next. Monkey boy cant function w/o his organ grinder.
and he BETTER be wary about his Supreme Court pick too...........because we're looking at fillibuster and maybe even the nuclear option....which I dont think will fly anymore thanks to the gang of 14 (or however many it is.......)

dissention
10-28-2005, 01:16 PM
Rove is MY real wish target. Libby is a throwaway, but ROVE would be a true prize. Pleez let him be next. Monkey boy cant function w/o his organ grinder.
and he BETTER be wary about his Supreme Court pick too...........because we're looking at fillibuster and maybe even the nuclear option....which I dont think will fly anymore thanks to the gang of 14 (or however many it is.......)

Libby is anything but a throwaway. Just wait for the trial. A bright light will be cast upon the false & forged yellow cake documents, all of the reasoning for invading Iraq, and the administration will be torn to shreds. Now that Harry Reid handed the GOP their asses with Harriet Miers and now that they have to spend all their energy on this mess, ChimpCo will have no success in nominating a wingnut to the USSC. They're dead in the water. Celebrate!

Press conference RIGHT NOW, btw.

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Press conference!!!

I'm hoping I'll something like the following: "I've requested the investigation to be continued, and a new grand jury to be convened so I may finish my work."

dissention
10-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Press conference!!!

I'm hoping I'll something like the following: "I've requested the investigation to be continued, and a new grand jury to be convened so I may finish my work."

People are applauding Fitzgerald! :eek: :lol:

Brwn_eyes0511
10-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Indicted 5 counts!!! Felony charges!!!

Purgery -- obstruction of justice -- giving false statements

The white house is going to be rid of a scooter! WOOHOO! :woohoo:

SuzeQuze
10-28-2005, 01:28 PM
People are applauding Fitzgerald! :eek: :lol:

I know, isn't that wild? :]

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 01:32 PM
BASEBALL ANALOGIES?

I'm sorry, this guy is officially an idiot, however good his credentials mights be. The people watching and reporting on this press conference CAN understand what's going on.

Beachwood Mac
10-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Will someone change the camera angle. I can't look past the fact he has an eagle sitting on his shoulder staring at him!

Terry

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 01:36 PM
Will someone change the camera angle. I can't look past the fact he has an eagle sitting on his shoulder staring at him!

Terry
:lol:

We really are Birthday Twins!!!! I've been thinking the same thing the whole time. The angle of the flag makes the eagle look more like a vulture.

bikerchic
10-28-2005, 01:50 PM
American politics are very entertaining! This sh*t is B A N A N A ' S! :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511
10-28-2005, 01:52 PM
American politics are very entertaining! This sh*t is B A N A N A ' S! :laugh:

B A N A N A S! I ain't no holla back girl....


Ooops! Sorry...:lol:

dissention
10-28-2005, 01:53 PM
BASEBALL ANALOGIES?

I'm sorry, this guy is officially an idiot, however good his credentials mights be. The people watching and reporting on this press conference CAN understand what's going on.

I literally cringed when he started making his "baseball analogies." Crikey.

dissention
10-28-2005, 02:02 PM
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Fitzgerald_expands_probe_believes_he_can_1028.html
Fitzgerald expands probe, believes he can get Rove on more serious charges, lawyers say

In one of the boldest moves yet in the 22-month investigation into the outing of a covert CIA agent to a handful of top reporters covering the White House, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is extending his probe and pursuing much more serious charges against senior White House officials, specifically President Bush’s Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, lawyers directly involved in the case told RAW STORY Friday.

While many people were left confused by news reports that said Rove wouldn't be indicted Friday, the lawyers said that Rove remains under intense scrutiny and added that Fitzgerald is betting on the fact that he can secure an indictment against Rove on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, the misuse of classified information, and possibly other charges, as early as next week.

“This investigation is not yet over,” one of the lawyers in the case said. “You must keep in mind that people like Mr. Rove are still under investigation. Rather than securing an indictment on perjury charges against Mr. Rove Mr. Fitzgerald strongly believes he can convince the grand jury that he broke other laws.”

The lawyers said that in the past month Fitzgerald has obtained explosive information in the case that has enabled him to pursue broader charges such as conspiracy, and civil rights violations against targets like Rove. Specifically, the lawyers said Fitzgerald is focusing on phony intelligence documents that led to the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity: the documents that claimed Iraq was attempting to purchase yellow-cake uranium from Niger.

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 02:15 PM
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Fitzgerald_expands_probe_believes_he_can_1028.html
Fitzgerald expands probe, believes he can get Rove on more serious charges, lawyers say

In one of the boldest moves yet in the 22-month investigation into the outing of a covert CIA agent to a handful of top reporters covering the White House, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is extending his probe and pursuing much more serious charges against senior White House officials, specifically President Bush’s Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, lawyers directly involved in the case told RAW STORY Friday.

While many people were left confused by news reports that said Rove wouldn't be indicted Friday, the lawyers said that Rove remains under intense scrutiny and added that Fitzgerald is betting on the fact that he can secure an indictment against Rove on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, the misuse of classified information, and possibly other charges, as early as next week.

“This investigation is not yet over,” one of the lawyers in the case said. “You must keep in mind that people like Mr. Rove are still under investigation. Rather than securing an indictment on perjury charges against Mr. Rove Mr. Fitzgerald strongly believes he can convince the grand jury that he broke other laws.”

The lawyers said that in the past month Fitzgerald has obtained explosive information in the case that has enabled him to pursue broader charges such as conspiracy, and civil rights violations against targets like Rove. Specifically, the lawyers said Fitzgerald is focusing on phony intelligence documents that led to the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity: the documents that claimed Iraq was attempting to purchase yellow-cake uranium from Niger.
I'm pretty close to doing a jig. Too bad I don't have a webcam to share with everyone.

dissention
10-28-2005, 02:52 PM
I'm pretty close to doing a jig. Too bad I don't have a webcam to share with everyone.

Bush is on now, FYI. He looks like **** run over twice and sounded...horrible, even for him. Now he's going to Maryland for vacation.

CHRIST! He spoke for a minute and ran away!!!

SuzeQuze
10-28-2005, 02:55 PM
Bush is on now, FYI. He looks like **** run over twice and sounded...horrible, even for him. Now he's going to Maryland for vacation.

Are you kidding me?

dissention
10-28-2005, 02:56 PM
Are you kidding me?

He spoke for a MINUTE and then motored right out of there. Didn't answer a single question. Just rambled on about good economic policies and doing a good job for the American people. And now he's going on vacation.

SuzeQuze
10-28-2005, 02:57 PM
He spoke for a MINUTE and then motored right out of there. Didn't answer a single question. And now he's going on vacation.

Lord knows the man needs a vacation. :distress:

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Are you kidding me?
He hasn't been on vacation since the end of August, and he had to end that one early, remember?

Poor baby. Being preznit really is hard work. It's HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!

dissention
10-28-2005, 03:02 PM
Lord knows the man needs a vacation. :distress:

I can't believe you missed it. :laugh: A reporter shouted "Are you embarrassed, Mr. President?" and the monkey just glared at him, then turned around and ran.

Nixxxed
10-28-2005, 03:04 PM
He hasn't been on vacation since the end of August, and he had to end that one early, remember?

Poor baby. Being preznit really is hard work. It's HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!
And some news pundit or another (hard to keep them track as I'm furiously flipping channels) noticed Harriet Miers was getting on to Marine1 just ahead of Shrub and said: "A vacation at Camp David this weekend must be some kind of payback/reward for the tough week she's had."

:lol:

Beachwood Mac
10-28-2005, 03:10 PM
And some news pundit or another (hard to keep them track as I'm furiously flipping channels) noticed Harriet Miers was getting on to Marine1 just ahead of Shrub and said: "A vacation at Camp David this weekend must be some kind of payback/reward for the tough week she's had."

:lol:

A weekend with the Bushes is a reward????

dissention
10-28-2005, 03:11 PM
A weekend with the Bushes is a reward????

She must be a masochist.

SuzeQuze
10-28-2005, 03:11 PM
I can't believe you missed it. :laugh: A reporter shouted "Are you embarrassed, Mr. President?" and the monkey just glared at him, then turned around and ran.

I seriously thought you were joking about the vacation. I'm sorry I missed that. I'm in the office though, working. :(

BombaySapphire3
10-28-2005, 03:13 PM
Please let the dam burst on the criminal scandal that Chimpco misled a nation (well at least a good part of a nation) into this dirty little war.:]

dissention
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty close to doing a jig. Too bad I don't have a webcam to share with everyone.

Go read the actual indictment. I think Rove is "Official A."

Brwn_eyes0511
10-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Fitzgerald recounting Libby's testimony...Libby discussed information about Valerie Wilson/Plame a half a dozen times before conversation with Tim Russert.

At least four people within the govt told Libby about Wilson/Plame...in addition to hearing it, at least three times Libby discussed the information with govt, according to indictment...

Fitzgerald says Libby discussed the matter with Ari Fleischer on July 7 2003 (a Monday). He claimed to have first learned about it the following Thursday.

...He lied under oath and repeatedly.

It does show the world that this is a country that takes its laws seriously. Everyone bound by the law. Follow this process with American values and our dignity.

***
Questions:

Q: This began as a leak investigation, but no one is charged with leaking. Is investigation finished?

A: It's not over, but I'll tell you this...substantial bulk is completed... ordinary to keep grand jury open to consider other matters, and that's what we'll do...

Fitz makes a baseball analogy to explain probe and unresolved questions. Obstruction of justice is like sand getting thrown in umpire's eyes. Prevents us from making judgements we need to make. This is a very serious matter. The need to get to the bottom of what happened...is extremely important. We need to get to the truth...if what we allege in indictment is true, then what we have charged is a very serious crime.

Q: Any evidence that VP of U.S. encouraged him to leak it or encouraged him to lie?

A: I'm not making allegations about anyone not charged indictment. We make no allegation that VP engaged in any criminal act or any other people who discussed info with Libby...

Q: from Michael Isikoff...For all the sand thrown in our eyes, it seems you known the identity of the leaker. Why not revealed?

A: I can't. The law is the law...we cannot discuss information not contained in indictment. ...if you ask me any name, I'm not going to comment...I can tell you no one wants this over as quickly as I do...

Q: You said that damage was done to all of us. What?

A: For the people who work at the CIA, they have to expect that classified info will be protected...they have to expect something won't be done to put them at risk by their own fellow employees...

Q: Re. Judy Miller. How important was her testimony?

A: No one wanted a dispute with the NY Times or anybody else. I was not looking for a First Amendment showdown...when we issued subpoenas, we thought long and hard before we did that...we scrubbed it thoroughly...

Q: You said Libby was first to leak Wilson/Plame info...are there definitely other leakers? Facilitators?

A: I can't go beyond the four corners of the indictment...

Q: Did Libby know whether Valerie Wilson's identity was covert?

[B]A: ...We have not made any allegation that Libby knowingly/intentionally outed a covert agent.

Q: Your critics are charging you are a partisan--

A: What party?

[Laughter]

One day I read I was a Republican hack. The next, I read I was a Democratic hack. I am not registered with either party, and I'll leave it there.

...Our jobs in the criminal justice system are to make sure people tell the truth.

Q: Why are you confident that this is the right thing to do given that you are relying on people's memories of things that occurred long ago?

A: Can't go into trial evidence, but...he is presumed innocent and let's let the trial proceed...

Q: Last-minute activity...FBI interviews...flurry of activity...were you just buttoning up the case? What are we supposed to read into that.

A: There was a flurry of attention...we wanted to get as much done...wouldn't read anything into it...

300pm EDT

Q: Terry Moran...There are some who see this is vindication of their views on the war. Is it?

A: This indictment is not about the war. Not about the propriety of the war. This is stripped of that debate and focused on a narrow transaction...they will be frustrated and not good for process and fairness of trial.

Q: Did Bob Novak cooperate with the investigation?

A: Can't comment.

310pm EDT

Q: Do you anticipate needing to empanel a new grand jury in order to wrap up?

A: Can't comment. What I'm trying to convey: We're not quite done, but I don't want to add to a feverish pitch...

Q: Any possibility that anyone else will be charged?

A: Not going to comment...[laughter]...You're getting cold not hot.

Q: What harm was there [to Valerie Wilson]?

A: On specifics, I won't touch that with a ten-foot-pole...but at a time we need spy agencies, it compromises ability of government to recruit...that's damage...but I'm not going to go beyond that...

We will not be arresting Mr. Libby...we'll arrange for him to appear before assigned judge...whatever he tells us to do, we will do...

Q: Are you for or against a federal shield law?

A: I don't think I should opine on that in my capacity...this was a situation where conversations between officials and reporters may have been a crime itself [transmitting classified info]...what people don't appreciate is that we interviewed many officials before we went to reporters...

...There was no political interference in this case...

322pm EDT. End.

Jyqm
10-28-2005, 04:43 PM
It does show the world that this is a country that takes its laws seriously.

Not quite yet it doesn't. But it very well may.

gldstwmn
10-28-2005, 04:51 PM
Rove is MY real wish target. Libby is a throwaway, but ROVE would be a true prize. Pleez let him be next. Monkey boy cant function w/o his organ grinder.
and he BETTER be wary about his Supreme Court pick too...........because we're looking at fillibuster and maybe even the nuclear option....which I dont think will fly anymore thanks to the gang of 14 (or however many it is.......)
Hee. Bush got heckled at his speech this morning. Some guy in a Dump Bush t-shirt started shouting about Rove and got hustled out of the room. I'm hoping the video is up on Crooks And Liars.

Brwn_eyes0511
10-28-2005, 04:52 PM
Hee. Bush got heckled at his speech this morning. Some guy in a Dump Bush t-shirt started shouting about Rove and got hustled out of the room. I'm hoping the bvideo is up on Crooks And Liars.

The moonbats strike again! Don't they realize they make all liberals look like fools! :rolleyes: :lol:

gldstwmn
10-28-2005, 04:54 PM
Libby is anything but a throwaway.

Yup. He's the first White House official to be indicted while in office since the administration of Ulysses S. Grant. :shocked:

gldstwmn
10-28-2005, 05:02 PM
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Fitzgerald_expands_probe_believes_he_can_1028.html
Fitzgerald expands probe, believes he can get Rove on more serious charges, lawyers say

In one of the boldest moves yet in the 22-month investigation into the outing of a covert CIA agent to a handful of top reporters covering the White House, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is extending his probe and pursuing much more serious charges against senior White House officials, specifically President Bush’s Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, lawyers directly involved in the case told RAW STORY Friday.

While many people were left confused by news reports that said Rove wouldn't be indicted Friday, the lawyers said that Rove remains under intense scrutiny and added that Fitzgerald is betting on the fact that he can secure an indictment against Rove on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, the misuse of classified information, and possibly other charges, as early as next week.

“This investigation is not yet over,” one of the lawyers in the case said. “You must keep in mind that people like Mr. Rove are still under investigation. Rather than securing an indictment on perjury charges against Mr. Rove Mr. Fitzgerald strongly believes he can convince the grand jury that he broke other laws.”

The lawyers said that in the past month Fitzgerald has obtained explosive information in the case that has enabled him to pursue broader charges such as conspiracy, and civil rights violations against targets like Rove. Specifically, the lawyers said Fitzgerald is focusing on phony intelligence documents that led to the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity: the documents that claimed Iraq was attempting to purchase yellow-cake uranium from Niger.

Yeah baby!:]

gldstwmn
10-28-2005, 05:08 PM
I can't believe you missed it. :laugh: A reporter shouted "Are you embarrassed, Mr. President?" and the monkey just glared at him, then turned around and ran.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

dissention
10-28-2005, 05:16 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Here's the transcript of what could possibly be the shortest press conference any president has ever given. It was a hoot to watch.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051028/dcf052.html?.v=10

THE PRESIDENT: Today I accepted the resignation of Scooter Libby. Scooter has worked tirelessly on behalf of the American people and sacrificed much in the service to this country. He served the Vice President and me through extraordinary times in our nation's history.

Special Counsel Fitzgerald's investigation and ongoing legal proceedings are serious, and now the proceedings -- the process moves into a new phase. In our system, each individual is presumed innocent and entitled to due process and a fair trial.

While we're all saddened by today's news, we remain wholly focused on the many issues and opportunities facing this country. I got a job to do, and so do the people who work in the White House. We got a job to protect the American people, and that's what we'll continue working hard to do.

I look forward to working with Congress on policies to keep this economy moving. And pretty soon I'll be naming somebody to the Supreme Court.

Thank you all very much.

Jyqm
10-28-2005, 05:25 PM
The moonbats strike again! Don't they realize they make all liberals look like fools! :rolleyes: :lol:

Yes, truly, it is the liberals who look like fools today.

Jyqm
10-28-2005, 05:28 PM
We got a job to protect the American people, and that's what we'll continue working hard to do.[/I]

Unfortunately, George, you're the one the American people need protection from.

irishgrl
10-29-2005, 06:03 AM
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Fitzgerald_expands_probe_believes_he_can_1028.html
Fitzgerald expands probe, believes he can get Rove on more serious charges, lawyers say

In one of the boldest moves yet in the 22-month investigation into the outing of a covert CIA agent to a handful of top reporters covering the White House, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is extending his probe and pursuing much more serious charges against senior White House officials, specifically President Bush’s Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, lawyers directly involved in the case told RAW STORY Friday.

While many people were left confused by news reports that said Rove wouldn't be indicted Friday, the lawyers said that Rove remains under intense scrutiny and added that Fitzgerald is betting on the fact that he can secure an indictment against Rove on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, the misuse of classified information, and possibly other charges, as early as next week.

“This investigation is not yet over,” one of the lawyers in the case said. “You must keep in mind that people like Mr. Rove are still under investigation. Rather than securing an indictment on perjury charges against Mr. Rove Mr. Fitzgerald strongly believes he can convince the grand jury that he broke other laws.”

The lawyers said that in the past month Fitzgerald has obtained explosive information in the case that has enabled him to pursue broader charges such as conspiracy, and civil rights violations against targets like Rove. Specifically, the lawyers said Fitzgerald is focusing on phony intelligence documents that led to the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson’s identity: the documents that claimed Iraq was attempting to purchase yellow-cake uranium from Niger.

oh PLEEZ oh PLEEZ oh PLEEZ Im gonna get out my Rove voodoo doll and start burning its feet. then Im gonna shove a knitting needle up its butt.

irishgrl
10-29-2005, 06:20 AM
Hey Dissy, this should interest you:
Rove is Official A (http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_Official_A_Novaks_source_lawyers_1028.html)
Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove was the mysterious 'Official A' named in the indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff, lawyers close to the case have told RAW STORY.

Friday's indictment identified "Official A" as a "senior official in the White House who advised Libby on July 10 or 11 of 2003" about a conversation with conservative columnist Robert Novak about an upcoming column where Plame would be identified as a CIA employee. Novak's column ran Jul. 14, 2003.

Rove is expected to be identified in several newspapers Saturday. The Associated Press is also close to naming Rove as 'Official A.'
Advertisement

'Bush's brain' is not Novak's 'secret source.' He is, however, the senior administration official who said, "Oh, you know about it," when asked by the columnist about Wilson's wife sending him to Niger.

Novak wrote, "When I called another official for confirmation, he said: 'Oh, you know about it.'"

Rove's role in the case remains unclear. Those familiar with the investigation say that Rove remains in legal limbo and that Fitzgerald has not finished his inquiry into Bush's chief advisor's role.

Rove may be called on to testify against Libby in the latter's trial.

“This investigation is not yet over,” one of the lawyers in the case said. “You must keep in mind that people like Mr. Rove are still under investigation.”

In July, the Washington Post reported that Rove 'indirectly' identified Plame to Novak.

According to the Post, a lawyer familiar with the case "said that Novak showed up on a White House call log as having telephoned Rove in the week before the publication of the July 2003 column, which has touched off a two-year federal investigation and led to the jailing of New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who has refused to testify about her conversation with a source involved in the case."

irishgrl
10-29-2005, 11:00 AM
He hasn't been on vacation since the end of August, and he had to end that one early, remember?

Poor baby. Being preznit really is hard work. It's HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!
Personally I think Rove told him to get out of DC before he messed anything ELSE up! :rolleyes: :nod: