Alert: Demonizing Condi [Archive]

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:21 PM

Check out the photo of Condoleezza Rice that was published by USA Today last week (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-19-rice-congress_x.htm)

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/condi.jpg">

Notice anything peculiar about her eyes?

No, Condi isn't possessed; the photo was manipulated

found a pre-doctored version of the Associated Press photo on Yahoo! España (http://es.news.yahoo.com/19102005/24/foto/secretary-of-state-condoleezza-rice-looks-on-during-joint-news.html):

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/realcondi.jpg">

Unbelievable. Robert George points to another example of malicious photoshopping of a black Republican official. (http://raggedthots.blogspot.com/2005/10/why-i-am-not-democrat-part-2.html)

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:22 PM

Update:

USA TODAY REMOVES DOCTORED PHOTO

The doctored photo of Condi Rice has been removed from USA Today's website with this editor's note:

Editor's note: The photo of Condoleezza Rice that originally accompanied this story was altered in a manner that did not meet USA TODAY's editorial standards. The photo has been replaced by a properly adjusted copy. Photos published online are routinely cropped for size and adjusted for brightness and sharpness to optimize their appearance. In this case, after sharpening the photo for clarity, the editor brightened a portion of Rice's face, giving her eyes an unnatural appearance. This resulted in a distortion of the original not in keeping with our editorial standards.

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 03:30 PM

That was a really bad photo editing job. It is common to whiten eyes in photos but that is horrid. Probably a liberal artist! :laugh:

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 03:31 PM

the first photo suits me just fine, actually -

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:31 PM

That was a really bad photo editing job. It is common to whiten eyes in photos but that is horrid. Probably a liberal artist! :laugh:

Exactly! I was like...WTF!?!?! :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:32 PM

the first photo suits me just fine, actually -

Of course it does...

Well I could say something really mean right now! But I'm going to do good! :p

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 03:36 PM

Of course it does...

Well I could say something really mean right now! But I'm going to do good! :p
say it...I'm grown

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:37 PM

say it...I'm grown

No, my new crush has me in a good mood! :wavey: Which is just not normal for me! :lol:

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 03:38 PM

No, my new crush has me in a good mood! :wavey: Which is just not normal for me! :lol:
suit yourself.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:41 PM

suit yourself.

Ok fine! I was going to call you a racist liberal! Does that make you happy now! :D :lol:

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 03:42 PM

Ok fine! I was going to call you a racist liberal! Does that make you happy now! :D :lol:
I wish you could see the smile on my face.

:rolleyes:

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 03:45 PM

while I'm thinking about it, Condi needs to walk, no, run to her nearest Macy's or something and have a makeunder. IMO, it's hard for women of color to wear makeup the way most women of a lighter skin tone do. blush is the hardest to pull off and good lord, that red lipstick...whew -

irishgrl

10-26-2005, 04:21 PM

That was a really bad photo editing job. It is common to whiten eyes in photos but that is horrid. Probably a liberal artist! :laugh:
Oh GREAT Suze, ya gave Brandon the opening he needed to bash the liberals yet AGAIN!

And I agree, the first photo is perfectly fine :D

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:24 PM

Oh GREAT Suze, ya gave Brandon the opening he needed to bash the liberals yet AGAIN!

And I agree, the first photo is perfectly fine :D

That's because most liberals are racist! RACIST RACIST RACIST! :lol: :wavey:

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 04:25 PM

That's because most liberals are racist! RACIST RACIST RACIST! :lol: :wavey:

Haha, that's bullsh*t and you know it. :wavey:

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 04:26 PM

Oh GREAT Suze, ya gave Brandon the opening he needed to bash the liberals yet AGAIN!

And I agree, the first photo is perfectly fine :D

I know, but photo editing is my hobbie and it is a really bad job looking at it as a photo. Looking at the person, yes it suits her personality just fine. ;)

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:27 PM

Haha, that's bullsh*t and you know it. :wavey:

Actually I'm very serious! :nod:

I think most Democrats have a problem with blacks. Race card is used ALL the time.

Affirmative Action, Welfare....shall I go on!

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 04:29 PM

Actually I'm very serious! :nod:

I think most Democrats have a problem with blacks. Race card is used ALL the time.

Affirmative Action, Welfare....shall I go on!
uh, puke! oh, I'm sorry...

are you smoking crack?

(and if you are...share the love)

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:29 PM

Actually I'm very serious! :nod:

I think most Democrats have a problem with blacks. Race card is used ALL the time.

Affirmative Action, Welfare....shall I go on!

So, its better to let them starve. Also, you assume welfare is only for blacks, which it is not and by far.

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 04:34 PM

Actually I'm very serious! :nod:

I think most Democrats have a problem with blacks. Race card is used ALL the time.

Affirmative Action, Welfare....shall I go on!

You have no idea what you are talking about. :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:38 PM

So, its better to let them starve. Also, you assume welfare is only for blacks, which it is not and by far.

Minorities are conditioned to rely on the government. I have a friend who works for one of my local news stations, and is recently back from NOLA. He called me and told me not to send one dime to the Red Cross! He said that most of the people down there are fifth generation welfare recipients...and they didn't want to WALK DOWN THE STREET to the Red Cross for ANYTHING! They wanted them to bring it straight to them. There are HELP WANTED signs everywhere in businesses opening up...but they don't want that! They want the government to do everything for them!

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 04:41 PM

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:41 PM

Minorities are conditioned to rely on the government. I have a friend who works for one of my local news stations, and is recently back from NOLA. He called me and told me not to send one dime to the Red Cross! He said that most of the people down there are fifth generation welfare recipients...and they didn't want to WALK DOWN THE STREET to the Red Cross for ANYTHING! They wanted them to bring it straight to them. There are HELP WANTED signs everywhere in businesses opening up...but they don't want that! They want the government to do everything for them!

So, what about the coutless white people on welfare?

Also, you know nothing of welfare and need to research the issue, which you will never do outside of listening to idiots who would not know the truth if it bit them. I mean the above asinine post is dispositive of that. Are you really saying all welfare rec. black people are like that? If so, I know many who are working in NOLA right now for $9.00 per hour and are being bused in from Lafayette and back each day. Yet, all you in your ignornace can see is the small percentage who are like you said. That is why you are ignorant.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:48 PM

please stop...that sounds just as stupid as those twins spouting racist music and sporting nazi symbols - can you see how that comes across?

Yea. Thanks to liberals our society has conditioned those less fortunate to rely on the government for EVERYTHING!

Repeal the New Deal already!

wondergirl9847

10-26-2005, 04:49 PM

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:49 PM

ontheEdgeof17

10-26-2005, 04:50 PM

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:50 PM

So, what about the coutless white people on welfare?

Also, you know nothing of welfare and need to research the issue, which you will never do outside of listening to idiots who would not know the truth if it bit them. I mean the above asinine post is dispositive of that. Are you really saying all welfare rec. black people are like that? If so, I know many who are working in NOLA right now for $9.00 per hour and are being bused in from Lafayette and back each day. Yet, all you in your ignornace can see is the small percentage who are like you said. That is why you are ignorant.

Never did I say black people! I believe that was you!

small percentage who are like you said.

If this is the "small percentage" then why is is the only percentage that anyone ever sees?

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:50 PM

Yea. Thanks to liberals our society has conditioned those less fortunate to rely on the government for EVERYTHING!

Repeal the New Deal already!

Ahhhh - we have gone from black people to less fortunate - you are learning!

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 04:52 PM

Ahhhh - we have gone from black people to less fortunate - you are learning!

He is, I'm proud of the lad. :lol:

dissention

10-26-2005, 04:52 PM

That's because most liberals are racist! RACIST RACIST RACIST! :lol: :wavey:

Hehe. Aren't you a member of the the party of Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, and Jesse Helms?

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:52 PM

Never did I say black people! I believe that was you!

Hmmm - you said minorities and RACIST RACIST RACIST - I wonder who you meant :rolleyes: and do not make you throw old posts in your face :laugh:

If this is the "small percentage" then why is is the only percentage that anyone ever sees?

Please define anyone. I just told you of many who are working and I am sure Mary can provide many stats should she take the notion.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:53 PM

I don't understand the need/want to identify yourself with a particular group (i.e. Democrats and Republicans, etc.) because you are putting yourself in a box. Why not look at things with an open mind to judge everything for yourself instead of saying "Well, I'm a Republican, so I must believe this." I hate this two party crap we have in this country. It divides us just like racism, sexism, etc. :(

Well honey, I have no choice. You think I'm going to identify myself with liberals?

I think the Democrats should go the way of the wigs and start a new party with REAL Blue Dogs! The Olympia Snows and the Zell Millers, etc...! All they are doing now is catering to the Barbra Streisands of the world!

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:56 PM

Ahhhh - we have gone from black people to less fortunate - you are learning!

I never said BLACKS! You are from the party who wants to abort black babies to cut down on crimes! Republicans have consistently been the party to appoint minorities to high ranking positions! Who was the closest black woman to Bill Clinton? Oh yea...HIS SECRETARY Betty Currie!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 04:57 PM

I never said BLACKS! You are from the party who wants to abort black babies to cut down on crimes! Republicans have consistently been the party to appoint minorities to high ranking positions! Who was the closest black woman to Bill Clinton? Oh yea...HIS SECRETARY Betty Currie!

Again, what did you mean by Racists and minorities? Please be specific :laugh:

Also, for the last time, I am no Democrat. I have told you think like ten times but you refuse to get it. It is not that hard of a concept :laugh:

On edit - I am not even a liberal, but you will never get that because you do not know the true meaning of conservative. If you do, let's hear it.

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 04:57 PM

Ahhhh - we have gone from black people to less fortunate - you are learning!
it's his sudden bisexual status that is finally getting him to open his mind a little...and we have ourselves to thank for that! :)

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 04:58 PM

it's his sudden bisexual status that is finally getting him to open his mind a little...and we have ourselves to thank for that! :)

Round of applause! Nice job guys. :thumbsup:

wondergirl9847

10-26-2005, 04:58 PM

You do have a choice. You can vote for the BEST PERSON and listen to EVERYONE as to their beliefs and ideas. I'm so sick of the conservative vs. liberal nonsense. A lot of people have knee jerk reactions when someone mentions something to them, without using their brain to go "Hmm..you know, you could be right, but I think so-and-so." Nope, lots of folks just start screaming and yelling like a 5 year old who couldn't get a toy they wanted. :rolleyes:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 04:58 PM

Hmmm - you said minorities and RACIST RACIST RACIST - I wonder who you meant :rolleyes: and do not make you throw old posts in your face :laugh:

I said liberals were racist... :lol:

Please define anyone. I just told you of many who are working and I am sure Mary can provide many stats should she take the notion.

Meaning. I have never heard of ONE homeless or less privileged individual who did not, at some point in there life, have the opportunity to better themselves.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:01 PM

Again, what did you mean by Racists and minorities? Please be specific :laugh:

Also, for the last time, I am no Democrat. I have told you think like ten times but you refuse to get it. It is not that hard of a concept :laugh:

Racists...I'm talking about the majority of the Democratic Party! They call us racist consistently and try to convince blacks that we HATE them!

On edit - I am not even a liberal, but you will never get that because you do not know the true meaning of conservative. If you do, let's hear it.

If your not part of the Reagan line of conservatives then NO you aren't a conservative!

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 05:02 PM

It's Damien Thorn!!!!:eek:

sparky

10-26-2005, 05:02 PM

I know, but photo editing is my hobbie

Really Suze ? Could you photoshop some dental work and humanity onto that reptilian hag ?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:02 PM

Really Suze ? Could you photoshop some dental work and humanity onto that reptilian hag ?

Racist! See there...:D :lol:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:03 PM

I said liberals were racist... :lol:

and said they were with affirmative action, which BTW - many R's vote for you numbskull.

Meaning. I have never heard of ONE homeless or less privileged individual who did not, at some point in there life, have the opportunity to better themselves.

Do me a favor. Go work in a homeless shelter for awhile. I say this because from that comment you really have no clue what it is like. and - for your information Tower and Gldstwmn have said they were at one point homeless and they are both true success stories. So, it happens. But, you really have no clue what having nothing is really like. You have no clue what it is like not to eat for a few days. You really have no idea what it is like to be spit upon. You really have no idea what it is like to walk into a McDonalds in clothing you have been wearing for a week that reeks and try to apply for a job. These people have enormous roadblocks to even finding a job on which they cannot live. Surely you see that.

dissention

10-26-2005, 05:04 PM

If your not part of the Reagan line of conservatives then NO you aren't a conservative!

How can you people continue to converse with this page after page? My IQ drops 12 points just reading **** like that.

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 05:05 PM

Really Suze ? Could you photoshop some dental work and humanity onto that reptilian hag ?

Dental? Yes. Humanity? I'm pretty talented but I don't think that's possible. :lol:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:07 PM

and said they were with affirmative action, which BTW - many R's vote for you numbskull.

Well, they are idiots!

and - for your information Tower and Gldstwmn have said they were at one point homeless and they are both true success stories.

See there, thank you!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:07 PM

. . . If your not part of the Reagan line of conservatives then NO you aren't a conservative!

Well, no. RR was a neo conservative who used, inter alia, Christianity as a wedge to win.

Again, if no govt. interference is the goal, as you have stated it is, then why should the govt. define or sanction marriage in any way. Wouldn't not defining or sanctioning it lessen the interference in our lives? Moreover, as pointed out by the atni-gay marriage people, contracts can supply almost all of the rights inherently given to one group by the govt. but not the other. So, why not take it out completely and, thus, interfer less in our lives. That way Churches can marry whatever people they want as they do now.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:08 PM

How can you people continue to converse with this page after page? My IQ drops 12 points just reading **** like that.

Then don't read! DUH! :shrug: :rolleyes: :lol:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:08 PM

. . . See there, thank you!

an d how does that support your premise that none of the homeless want out, or that all these people are fifth generation welfare takers? It does not. It means the system on some level worked by helping these and other people.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:09 PM

Well, no. RR was a neo conservative who used, inter alia, Christianity as a wedge to win.
.

Honey, we are a Christian nation...it's time you learned it!

Every President has invoked the name of God! EVERYONE!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:09 PM

How can you people continue to converse with this page after page? My IQ drops 12 points just reading **** like that.

I have a feeling our newly formed rump ranger is about to turn the corner :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:10 PM

an d how does that support your premise that none of the homeless want out, or that all these people are fifth generation welfare takers? It does not. It means the system on some level worked by helping these and other people.

Repeal the New Deal!

:laugh:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:10 PM

Honey, we are a Christian nation...it's time you learned it!

Every President has invoked the name of God! EVERYONE!

Yes they have and I have no problem with that because that is their religion and I am in no place to tell them what they can and cannot worship. I just do not want them to use the laws of this nation to use their religion or their form of Christianity to rule my life. Moreover, the Const. specifically never mentions God and the drafters did so intentionally to avoid religious tyranny. But, your comment proves you are not a conservative, but a neo conservative, which is to say a religious zealot and thus a fool.

dissention

10-26-2005, 05:10 PM

Then don't read! DUH! :shrug: :rolleyes: :lol:

Oh, trust me, I'm trying my darndest to concentrate on the intelligent ones.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:11 PM

I have a feeling our newly formed rump ranger is about to turn the corner :laugh:

WRONG! :]

Silly rabbitt!

dissention

10-26-2005, 05:11 PM

I have a feeling our newly formed rump ranger is about to turn the corner :laugh:

And I'm donating to The Gropenfuehrer's re-election campaign.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:12 PM

Oh, trust me, I'm trying my darndest to concentrate on the intelligent ones.

But yet you are still here! :lol:

dissention

10-26-2005, 05:14 PM

But yet you are still here! :lol:

Yes. In case you hadn't realized, there are intelligent people in this thread whose comments I like to read. Your inanity is simply par for the course. :angel:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:14 PM

Yes they have and I have no problem with that because that is their religion and I am in no place to tell them what they can and cannot worship. I just do not want them to use the laws of this nation to use their religion or their form of Christianity to rule my life. Moreover, the Const. specifically never mentions God and the drafters did so intentionally to avoid religious tyranny. But, your comment proves you are not a conservative, but a neo conservative, which is to say a religious zealot and thus a fool.

Lesson 1: If a non-conservative calls you a "religious zealot" then you know you are on the right track!

However, I must not be the biggest zealot out there. Not many "zealots" out there like the "snake" just as much as they do the "cat"! :lol:

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 05:15 PM

and said they were with affirmative action, which BTW - many R's vote for you numbskull.

Do me a favor. Go work in a homeless shelter for awhile. I say this because from that comment you really have no clue what it is like. and - for your information Tower and Gldstwmn have said they were at one point homeless and they are both true success stories. So, it happens. But, you really have no clue what having nothing is really like. You have no clue what it is like not to eat for a few days. You really have no idea what it is like to be spit upon. You really have no idea what it is like to walk into a McDonalds in clothing you have been wearing for a week that reeks and try to apply for a job. These people have enormous roadblocks to even finding a job on which they cannot live. Surely you see that.You know, I really appriciate what you just said. I've never been homeless, but I used to have more money thatn I have now, quite a bit actually, and I'm just now learning that I cant always have what I want. I always try to help someone that needs it, even if its only a little bit, because you never know when it's gonna be your turn to need the help. It can happen to anyone of us.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:15 PM

Yes. In case you hadn't realized, there are intelligent people in this thread whose comments I like to read. Your inanity is simply par for the course. :angel:

Yes, but he does it to get a rise because I truly believe no one can be that much of an idiot. Then again, I am an optimist :laugh: BTW - did you know Reagan believed in less govt. :laugh:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 05:16 PM

Lesson 1: If a non-conservative calls you a "religious zealot" then you know you are on the right track!

However, I must not be the biggest zealot out there. Not many "zealots" out there like the "snake" just as much as they do the "cat"! :lol:

Well, I think you should wear your gayness proudly in front of them. Actually, you'd get hit on more than you think :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 05:17 PM

Well, I think you should wear your gayness proudly in front of them. Actually, you'd get hit on more than you think :laugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

dissention

10-26-2005, 05:19 PM

I truly believe no one can be that much of an idiot.

You hit the nail on the head. :xoxo:

BTW - did you know Reagan believed in less govt. :laugh:

Yeah, and he was also a supporter of apartheid in South Africa.

gldstwmn

10-26-2005, 06:23 PM

You have no idea what you are talking about. :laugh:

Nothing new there.:wavey:

gldstwmn

10-26-2005, 06:34 PM

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 06:50 PM

Are you crazy? He appointed Ron Brown. Clinton is widely considered to be America's first black president-by black people.

Is Ron Brown a black woman? I don't think so. I think I said "BLACK WOMEN".

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 06:52 PM

Is Ron Brown a black woman? I don't think so. I think I said "BLACK WOMEN".

I thought you were a black woman - I mean you dress all ghetto gold and shiittee.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 06:53 PM

I thought you were a black woman - I mean you dress all ghetto gold and shiittee.

:lol:

I'm laughing because most people who know me would laugh reading that right now. "ghetto" would not be the way to describe how I dress.

dissention

10-26-2005, 06:58 PM

Is Ron Brown a black woman? I don't think so. I think I said "BLACK WOMEN".

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:03 PM

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.

Oh wow the Secretary of Energy. Come on, I think even Betty Currie ranks higher than that! :lol:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:05 PM

Are you crazy? He appointed Ron Brown. Clinton is widely considered to be America's first black president-by black people.

Don't forget Alexis Herman, Jocelyn Elders, and Susan Rice.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:07 PM

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.

There can be no question W has appointed the most high or the highest profile African Americans a la Powell and Rice. But, if you mean D African Americans, which I suggest is a different thing, then maybe Clinton wins there.

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:10 PM

There can be no question W has appointed the most high or the highest profile African Americans a la Powell and Rice.

That's not being argued against. I'm correcting Mr. Brown Eyes' false statement regarding black women and Clinton (which came right out of Ann Coulter's mouth, BTW). Pay attention!

But, if you mean D African Americans, which I suggest is a different thing, then maybe Clinton wins there.

He also wins in terms of judicial appointments. Shrub looks absolutely pitiful next to Clinton in that arena.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:11 PM

That's not being argued against. I'm correcting Mr. Brown Eyes' false statement. Pay attention! . . .

I know - I was just commenting :xoxo:

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 07:13 PM

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.I forgot about her. SHe was in the first Clinton administration right?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:13 PM

That's not being argued against. I'm correcting Mr. Brown Eyes' false statement regarding black women and Clinton (which came right out of Ann Coulter's mouth, BTW). Pay attention!

No, I think Jason just made my point.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:15 PM

No, I think Jason just made my point.

No, I made my point. Your point was something totally different as I am sure Diss is about to tell you :laugh:

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 07:17 PM

No, I made my point. Your point was something totally different as I am sure Diss is about to tell you :laugh:I love the byplay between those 2.:D

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:18 PM

No, I think Jason just made my point.

Classic bait and ****ing switch. That wasn't your point and you know it, stop piggybacking and make your own arguments for once. You're just bitter because I bitchslapped you over your patently false statement that came right out of Coultergeist's mouth.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:19 PM

Classic bait and ****ing switch. That wasn't your point and you know it, stop piggybacking and make your own arguments for once. You're just bitter because I bitchslapped you over your patently false statement that came right out of Coultergeist's mouth.

Lord - did you even break a sweat :laugh:

BTW - did you know that Max Cleland was no hero and Sen. McCarthy was :wavey:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:19 PM

No, I made my point. Your point was something totally different as I am sure Diss is about to tell you :laugh:

Oops! Sorry, I went back and read your post and I didn't read it corretly the first time. :sorry:

My point was that Bush has apointed the first African American woman to be the Secretary of State...and that is a hell of a lot more important then the damn Secretary of Energy...at least to me.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:20 PM

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:21 PM

My point was that Bush has apointed the first African American woman to be the Secretary of State...

Then you should have said so in your first goddamned post on the issue instead of making a stale crack at Clinton via Betty Currie that served no purpose other than to have your ass handed to you.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:21 PM

BTW - did you know that Max Cleland was no hero and Sen. McCarthy was :wavey:

BTW. Did you know that Ann never said that Max Cleland WASN'T a hero. At least I get the comments that come out of Ann's mouth...right!

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:22 PM

Then you should have said so in your first goddamned post on the issue instead of making a stale crack at Clinton via Betty Currie that served no purpose other than to have your ass handed to you.

No I thought it was rather funny. However, not as funny as this...

Classic bait and ****ing switch. That wasn't your point and you know it, stop piggybacking and make your own arguments for once. You're just bitter because I bitchslapped you over your patently false statement that came right out of Coultergeist's mouth.

I LIVE for moments like this! :laugh:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:23 PM

Lord - did you even break a sweat :laugh:

No.

BTW - did you know that Max Cleland was no hero and Sen. McCarthy was :wavey:

No. I don't do drugs.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:23 PM

No. I don't do drugs.

Jason must then. Because he is the only one I have ever heard say that Max Cleland wasn't a war hero.

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:26 PM

No I thought it was rather funny. However, not as funny as this...

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

I LIVE for moments like this! :laugh:

I'm glad I was given the chance to educate you.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:27 PM

BTW. Did you know that Ann never said that Max Cleland WASN'T a hero. At least I get the comments that come out of Ann's mouth...right!

No, she just said he was lucky to get his limbs blown off in Vietnam as opposed to elsewhere. And where were W and Cheney at this time :rolleyes:

But and in any event, here is what she said, though she said other things as well:

Coulter countered that Cleland is no Vietnam war hero, just a victim of a tragic, accidental grenade explosion who plays up his amputations for political gain.

“If Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator in the first place. Maybe he’d be the best pharmacist in Atlanta,” Coulter said in her column, published on February 11.

“He didn't ‘give his limbs for his country,’ or leave them ‘on the battlefield,’” Coulter said. “There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight.”

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=42941

Again, everyone in Nam was a hero as opposed to the AWOL W and "better things to do" Cheney :rolleyes:

Also - just to make you look like more of a moron than you make yourself look like:

The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.

As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.

Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/02/con04074.html

and a google of "ann coulter max cleland" will reveal many more.

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 07:27 PM

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:28 PM

Jason must then. Because he is the only one I have ever heard say that Max Cleland wasn't a war hero.

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:28 PM

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

Please Daddy Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is so rare to see that butt plug do anything but tickle Hannity's prostate and smile about it :laugh:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

Please Daddy Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is so rare to see that butt plug do anything but tickle Hannity's prostate and smile about it :laugh:

http://movies.ziaspace.com/CoulterFoot1.wmv

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

If I were there, you'd be smiling for a reason darlin'

BTW - wasn't everyone in Nam a hero? Isn't that the standard R line?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:29 PM

I've yet to find an Ann Coulter crack to be funny. Though I can post the video of Alan Colmes handing her ass to her when she repeated it the same drivel on Hannity and Colmes for your viewing pleasure.

I have seen it.

I can post the one where Bob Beckel gets all "huffy" about her saying that democrats were racist! BEST LINE!...

BECKEL: You better be damn careful about using that word. I'll tell you something, I worked in the civil rights movement.

BECKEL: When you were sitting in your little schools up in New England.

BECKEL: I have no problem with her [Rice] because she's black. I have a problem with her because I don't think she's up to the job [of secretary of state]. Do not begin to say that people like me are racist when I spent a lot of time out in the vineyards on the civil rights movement.

COULTER: And you listen to jazz.
:lol:

I'm glad I was given the chance to educate you.

That, I hope, is a job for Ken! :xoxo:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:32 PM

http://movies.ziaspace.com/CoulterFoot1.wmv

I did not see it there :mad:

stargazer99

10-26-2005, 07:33 PM

Minorities are conditioned to rely on the government.

I'll tell that to my husband, who happens to be black. I'm sure he'll love your take on it. And you say most liberals are racist? :rolleyes:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:33 PM

I did not see it there :mad:

Try this:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/18.html

EnchantedSLN

10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

Oh please. Anyone who has used Photoshop knows that can happen when you apply sharpening and contrast filters (standard adjustments) to a small photo. I don't think she looks like a demon in the first photo anyway. (Actually, when I first opened the thread and saw the pictures I thought the second photo was the doctored one.) She's just ugly. Not their fault.

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

I'll tell that to my husband, who happens to be black. I'm sure he'll love your take on it. And you say most liberals are racist? :rolleyes:Yeah, he really didnt need to go there with that comment.

gldstwmn

10-26-2005, 07:36 PM

Hazel O'Leary, Secretary of Energy.

Nice save. What about the Surgeon General that everyone freaked out about because she talked about masturbation? She was a black woman, no?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:37 PM

Then you must pay attention to Manny when you read her.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up."

"Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

No you miss the point...

E-mail to New York Times ombudsman and letter to the editor, which the Times did not print...

..."I simply pointed out that the same people who are demanding George Bush's dental records from his Alabama National Guard service are routinely "sexing up" Max Cleland's record in order to smear Bush's service and the National Guard. Liberals falsely claim Cleland lost his limbs in combat rather than in an accident. Fantastically enough, Stolberg actually quotes an academic in her article - Merle Black of Emory - who repeats the standard lie, claiming Cleland lost his limbs in "battle." My point was that the truth of Cleland's own accident demonstrates the bravery of all members of the military who routinely come into contact with ordnance."

- ANN COULTER

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:37 PM

If I were there, you'd be smiling for a reason darlin'

BTW - wasn't everyone in Nam a hero? Isn't that the standard R line?

Only if you're a Republican who served in Nam. Or got daddy to wield his influence so that you were awarded a cushy job in the Air National guard, from which you could go AWOL from at your leisure and then tell the American people that you've seen war firsthand once you've stolen the White House.

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:39 PM

No you miss the point...

E-mail to New York Times ombudsman and letter to the editor, which the Times did not print...

Spin away, it's what you're best at. Too bad the facts are not on your side.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:39 PM

No you miss the point...

E-mail to New York Times ombudsman and letter to the editor, which the Times did not print...

Well, you said she never said he was not a hero and she said it twice, no matter what else she said, esp. in hindsight. You are wrong here so just admit it or look like a fool, which you seem to enjoy doing :laugh:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:40 PM

Nice save. What about the Surgeon General that everyone freaked out about because she talked about masturbation? She was a black woman, no?

Jocelyn Elders. :xoxo:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:40 PM

Spin away, it's what you're best at. Too bad the facts are not on your side.

That's funny considering liberals are the one who LIED about how he lost his limbs and she was just being honest about it!

Stating the truth will always get you in trouble!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:41 PM

. . . Too bad the facts are not on your side.

Hello - the day ends in AY :cool:

Again, she had the nerve to suggest that a man in a combat zone who took the brunt of a live gernade off of the actual Vietnamese battle field was not a hero and was lucky because he did not lose his limbs somewhere else. That is some sick ****te.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:42 PM

Well, you said she never said he was not a hero and she said it twice, no matter what else she said, esp. in hindsight. You are wrong here so just admit it or look like a fool, which you seem to enjoy doing :laugh:

Well, yes that was my fault. I should have been more specific and gone back and checked the two Cleland articles (I thought I knew them all by heart, man! :lol:). She never claimed that he didn't serve honorably...

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:42 PM

Hello - the day ends in AY :cool:

Again, she had the nerve to suggest that a man in a combat zone who took the brunt of a live gernade off of the actual Vietnamese battle field was not a hero and was lucky because he did not lose his limbs somewhere else. That is some sick ****te.

She didn't suggest it, she stated it outright.

"He was no hero. He blew himself up." & "Cleland was no war hero, but his sacrifice was great."

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:43 PM

That's funny considering liberals are the one who LIED about how he lost his limbs and she was just being honest about it!

Stating the truth will always get you in trouble!

No, they said he lost them in Vietnam, which is true. They also said he lost them in a combat zone, which is true. If they said he actually lost them on the battle field while engaging the enemy who was right in front of his that is false, but no one said that.

Interestingly, do you think Max Cleland is not a hero? If so, you are a cruel person indeed and a hypocrite because I do not see you recelntly gay and mostly priviledged a$$ fighting for your country right now.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:44 PM

Hello - the day ends in AY :cool:

Again, she had the nerve to suggest that a man in a combat zone who took the brunt of a live gernade off of the actual Vietnamese battle field was not a hero and was lucky because he did not lose his limbs somewhere else. That is some sick ****te.

But it's her free speech!

I suppose free speach only matters when you are a moonbat, wishing the current President dead, burning the flag, etc...

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:45 PM

Interestingly, do you think Max Cleland is not a hero? If so, you are a cruel person indeed and a hypocrite because I do not see you recelntly gay and mostly priviledged a$$ fighting for your country right now.

Young Bush supporters should be drafted by default.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:46 PM

But it's her free speech!

I suppose free speach only matters when you are a moonbat, wishing the current President dead, burning the flag, etc...

She can say anthing she wants, but that does not make her right.

BTW - WTF kind of lame point was that you tried to make :laugh:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:47 PM

But it's her free speech!

I suppose free speach only matters when you are a moonbat, wishing the current President dead, burning the flag, etc...

What the phuck kind of point are you trying to make now? :confused:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:47 PM

Young Bush supporters should be drafted by default.

That's interesting considering MOST young Bush supporters ARE in the army. At least more than those who voted for Kerry! They are way too busy protesting!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:47 PM

Young Bush supporters should be drafted by default.

AMEN - yet they do not go. Oh Well, I guess they follow the lead of the cowards Cheney and W.

DavidMn

10-26-2005, 07:48 PM

This nust be record time for a page getting fileld with posts.:)

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:48 PM

What the phuck kind of point are you trying to make now? :confused:

That she has a right to say what she did about Max Cleland (never mind it BEING THE TRUTH)!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 07:48 PM

That's interesting considering MOST young Bush supporters ARE in the army. At least more than those who voted for Kerry! They are way too busy protesting!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Please prove that point :laugh:

BTW - why aren't you there --- please explain that. We are all ears.

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:48 PM

That's interesting considering MOST young Bush supporters ARE in the army.

Thank the stars I just relieved myself ten minutes ago, or else I'd be sitting in my own urine from pissing so hard upon reading that assertion.

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:50 PM

That she has a right to say what she did about Max Cleland (never mind it BEING THE TRUTH)!

Spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

Again, you were proven wrong when you asserted that Manny never said he wasn't a hero. Now you're turning it into a free speech issue. That's rich, dude.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:50 PM

AMEN - yet they do not go. Oh Well, I guess they follow the lead of the cowards Cheney and W.

And where exactly are the Kerry supporters...OH I KNOW! HERE....

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Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:51 PM

Spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

Again, you were proven wrong when you asserted that Manny never said he wasn't a hero. Now you're turning it into a free speech issue. That's rich, dude.

No, I said that I got it wrong! Do you not read?

But my other point was that she has the right to point out what she did about Cleland.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:52 PM

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Please prove that point :laugh:

BTW - why aren't you there --- please explain that. We are all ears.

And why exactly does one have to be in the army to support it? :confused:

dissention

10-26-2005, 07:54 PM

No, I said that I got it wrong! Do you not read?

Obviously I do. It's you that either doesn't read Manny or can't retain what you've read.

But my other point was that she has the right to point out what she did about Cleland.

I.e. you tried to spin the discussion away from your false assertions, just like you did when I called you out on your Betty Currie bull****.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 07:56 PM

Obviously I do. It's you that either doesn't read Manny or can't retain what you've read.

I.e. you tried to spin the discussion away from your false assertions, just like you did when I called you out on your Betty Currie bull****.

Pointless Josh pointless. Talking to you is like talking to a f*cking brick wall. Just forget it!

dissention

10-26-2005, 08:02 PM

Pointless Josh pointless. Talking to you is like talking to a f*cking brick wall. Just forget it!

Not really. A brick wall doesn't have the ability to swat down bull****.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:07 PM

And where exactly are the Kerry supporters...OH I KNOW! HERE....

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/yikes.jpg">

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/bigpink.jpg">

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/grieving1.jpg">

<img src="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/truecolors.jpg">

And why aren't you there again? I mean you support it so much :shrug:

Also, you are an elitist snob for making fun of those people in those protests, which certainly represent all Kerry supporters :rolleyes:

Does laughing at people not like you make you feel superior up there in your snotty little college where everyone makes you feel warm and secure - hopefully it does because your lack of knowledge surely cannot. You really are pathetic sometimes.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:08 PM

And why exactly does one have to be in the army to support it? :confused:

Because you are a hypocrite. You are an able bodied young man. You think all Muslims pose an immediate threat. Yet, you are in college waving from afar at those protecting you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself if you think the threat is that immediate.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:10 PM

Pointless Josh pointless. Talking to you is like talking to a f*cking brick wall. Just forget it!

Awwwww - did wu wuse a point whittle boy :rolleyes: Grow up face the facts when they are told to you.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:14 PM

No, I said that I got it wrong! Do you not read?

But my other point was that she has the right to point out what she did about Cleland.

You are such a moron sometimes (and I am being generous with that time limitation :laugh: )

The point was, is, and always will be that Ann Coulter attacked a man who lost three limbs in Vietnam while serving honorably - she viciously attacked him by distorting the truth. Why did she do this? Well, she wanted to take heat off of W, who went AWOL, and Cheney who had better things to do than serve his country. Is it that hard to see that?

I mean it does not rub you the wrong way that she belittled and demeaned a man who was serving in Vietnam honorably? This from the same woman who essentially says that any talk against the soldiers currently in the war is a horrible thing and unpatriotic. Come on - not even you are that blindly supportive :laugh:

On edit - she did the same thing to Kerry. I mean Kerry volunteered to go to Nam and served honorably and was heavily decorated for it. Moreover, even if in some fantasyland Kerry's medals are not worth anything, which is utter cr*p to argue BTW - he at least went, which is more than W, Cheney or any other person save for Collin Powell did.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 09:18 PM

You are such a moron sometimes (and I am being generous with that time limitation :laugh: )

The point was, is, and always will be that Ann Coulter attacked a man who lost three limbs in Vietnam while serving honorably - she viciously attacked him by distorting the truth. Why did she do this? Well, she wanted to take heat off of W, who went AWOL, and Cheney who had better things to do than serve his country. Is it that hard to see that?

I mean it does not rub you the wrong way that she belittled and demeaned a man who was serving in Vietnam honorably? This from the same woman who essentially says that any talk against the soldiers currently in the war is a horrible thing and unpatriotic. Come on - not even you are that blindly supportive :laugh:

You totally missed her point in the Cleland column! Sorry...

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:22 PM

You totally missed her point in the Cleland column! Sorry...

No, I got it. She is saying that the gernade happened to blow up and Cleland is no hero for that because it could have happened anywhere. She is wrong. It did not happen anywhere. It happened while he was serving in Vietnam, which was an honoroable thing for him to do and FAR more than W or Cheney did. Yet, she never says that. Instead, she leaves one with the impression Cleland was not a hero for serving in Nam - she specifically said he was not a hero. That is fu*ked up ****te. The man lost limbs while serving his country and deserves respect for it. Yet, she treated him like he did nothing of the sort and implied she was some sort of con artist for losing limbs in Vietnam while serving his country.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 09:27 PM

No, I got it. She is saying that the gernade happened to blow up and Cleland is no hero for that because it could have happened anywhere. She is wrong. It did not happen anywhere. It happened while he was serving in Vietnam, which was an honoroable thing for him to do and FAR more than W or Cheney did. Yet, she never says that. Instead, she leaves one with the impression Cleland was not a hero for serving in Nam - she specifically said he was not a hero. That is fu*ked up ****te. The man lost limbs while serving his country and deserves respect for it. Yet, she treated him like he did nothing of the sort and implied she was some sort of con artist for losing limbs in Vietnam while serving his country.

I read what you wrote. And still think you missed the point. :lol: :xoxo:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:29 PM

I read what you wrote. And still think you missed the point. :lol: :xoxo:

Then what is the point, other what I stated. Enlighten and thrill me with your acumen :rolleyes:

P.S. You can use poly-syllabic words if you know any :wavey:

gldstwmn

10-26-2005, 09:32 PM

This must be record time for a page getting filled with posts.:)

No, that probably happened sometime around November 2nd last year.:laugh:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:33 PM

No, that probably happened sometime around November 2nd last year.:laugh:

NO ****TEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 09:36 PM

But it's her free speech!

I suppose free speach only matters when you are a moonbat, wishing the current President dead, burning the flag, etc...

"moonbat" :laugh: That's my favorite! Limbaugh got out of serving in military because he had an "anal cyst". :lol:

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:37 PM

"moonbat" :laugh: That's my favorite! Limbaugh got out of serving in military because he had an "anal cyst". :lol:

and he still is one :cool:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 09:50 PM

Then what is the point, other what I stated. Enlighten and thrill me with your acumen :rolleyes:

[/QUOTE]

Well what is the point. After reading "Cleland Drops a Political Grenade" if you take from it something entirely different than what she intended, then how am I going to "enlighten" you or change your mind its pointless...isn't it?

P.S. You can use poly-syllabic words if you know any :wavey:

:xoxo: See there is that invective that I love. But everyone gets touchy when I use it!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 09:53 PM

After reading "Cleland Drops a Political Grenade" if you take from it something entirely different than what she intended, then how am I going to "enlighten" you or change your mind its pointless...isn't it?

Called out and for - and couldn't come.

You lose. Do you not get tired of this state because I cannot remember you ever winning a factual argument here - EVER :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 10:03 PM

Called out and for - and couldn't come.

You lose. Do you not get tired of this state because I cannot remember you ever winning a factual argument here - EVER :laugh:

Just forget it Jason...

It doesn't matter really. I'm not going to change your mind and you aren't going to change mine.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 10:10 PM

Just forget it Jason...

It doesn't matter really. I'm not going to change your mind and you aren't going to change mine.

LOL - spin spin spin

The point is you are wrong because the facts do not support you. They never do. I could care a less about changing your mind. I just care about being correct, which I am. Yet, when called out to admit that, you change the topic :rolleyes:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 10:13 PM

LOL - spin spin spin

The point is you are wrong because the facts do not support you. They never do. I could care a less about changing your mind. I just care about being correct, which I am. Yet, when called out to admit that, you change the topic :rolleyes:
To what...Ice fishing? :rolleyes:

No, I'm right...but you just want me to continue this pointless argument so it will somehow validate your claims about the intent of the column.

Max Cleland = lost his limbs. This does not make him a war hero. And liberals lied about it.

:wavey: See you in another thread Jason!

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 10:25 PM

To what...Ice fishing? :rolleyes:

No, I'm right...but you just want me to continue this pointless argument so it will somehow validate your claims about the intent of the column.

Max Cleland = lost his limbs. This does not make him a war hero. And liberals lied about it.

:wavey: See you in another thread Jason!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The fact that he was there at all makes him a hero.

But, you will never admit that no matter how true it is.

dissention

10-26-2005, 10:27 PM

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The fact that he was there at all makes him a hero.

But, you will never admit that no matter how true it is.

Reagan, a man who supported apartheid, is a hero. Max Cleland, a man who served in Vietnam and lost limbs while serving, is not a hero. Get it straight.

strandinthewind

10-26-2005, 10:28 PM

Reagan, a man who supported apartheid, is a hero. Max Cleland, a man who served in Vietnam and lost limbs while serving, is not a hero. Get it straight.

Don't forget ole AWOL W :wavey:

skcin

10-28-2005, 01:00 PM

LOL - spin spin spin

The point is you are wrong because the facts do not support you. They never do. I could care a less about changing your mind. I just care about being correct, which I am. Yet, when called out to admit that, you change the topic :rolleyes:

I know I'm late to this thread & I know I shouldn't bother, but Jason - you are so right. :nod: Just wanted you to know that.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-28-2005, 01:26 PM

I know I'm late to this thread & I know I shouldn't bother, but Jason - you are so right. :nod: Just wanted you to know that.

Oh big shock! :rolleyes: :laugh:

skcin

10-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Oh big shock! :rolleyes: :laugh:

That Jason is right? No, not really.

BTW - shouldn't you be over in the Libby's 5 counts thread?

SuzeQuze

10-28-2005, 01:32 PM

I know I'm late to this thread & I know I shouldn't bother, but Jason - you are so right. :nod: Just wanted you to know that.

Oh he knows. ;) :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-28-2005, 01:35 PM

That Jason is right? No, not really.

BTW - shouldn't you be over in the Libby's 5 counts thread?

It's not really important!

So the White house is going to be rid of a man who is named Scooter? Oh, and the poor Democrats think that will ACTUALLY bring down the Bush administration! I didn't even know who the man was until like 20 minutes ago...I don't think anyone did! :lol:

I expect BIG gloating from the dems.

macfanken

10-28-2005, 01:46 PM

It's not really important!

So the White house is going to be rid of a man who is named Scooter? Oh, and the poor Democrats think that will ACTUALLY bring down the Bush administration! I didn't even know who the man was until like 20 minutes ago...I don't think anyone did! :lol:

I expect BIG gloating from the dems.

You didn't know who Scooter was until 20 minutes ago? You must not be a very good repub. :lol: And yes, this is very important.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-28-2005, 01:50 PM

You didn't know who Scooter was until 20 minutes ago? You must not be a very good repub. :lol: And yes, this is very important.

It was a joke! Of course I knew who he was. But I don't think anyone really did before the whole "leak" investigation. And I don't see this as being very important in terms of the Bush admin. or the running of the country. :shrug:

macfanken

10-28-2005, 01:53 PM

It was a joke! Of course I knew who he was. But I don't think anyone really did before the whole "leak" investigation. And I don't see this as being very important in terms of the Bush admin. or the running of the country. :shrug:

It's important because it's the tip of the iceberg that is the conspiracy and lies that led up to the Iraq War.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-28-2005, 01:55 PM

It's important because it's the tip of the iceberg that is the conspiracy and lies that led up to the Iraq War.

A leak about a leak...

Goodbye Scooter is all I have to say!

dissention

10-28-2005, 01:59 PM

It's important because it's the tip of the iceberg that is the conspiracy and lies that led up to the Iraq War.

Ding ding ding! You get a cookie, Ken. The administration is nothing but a rotting corpse at the moment. It compromises their USSC nomination, it compromises the ongoing conflict in Iraq, it compromises all of the "political capital" that Bush clamied to have after the election, etc. The list is ongoing. Not to mention that the investigation isn't even over. Take solace in the fact that this will still be in the news (the trial, any further grand jury developments and indictments) next year during the elections, along with DeLay and Frist. They were punked with Harriet Miers, devastated by Katrina, their administration is imploding, and it's safe to say that they're pretty much doomed at the moment.

gldstwmn

10-28-2005, 05:14 PM

I expect BIG gloating from the dems.

We're trying to make sense of why 2000 US troops and countless Iraqi citizens
are dead. So yeah, when the people who are responsible for that start to go down, it's a good day.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-28-2005, 05:15 PM

We're trying to make sense of why 2000 US troops and countless Iraqi citizens
are dead. So yeah, when the people who are responsible for that start to go down, it's a good day.

a leak about a leak...

gldstwmn

10-28-2005, 05:17 PM

Ding ding ding! You get a cookie, Ken. The administration is nothing but a rotting corpse at the moment. It compromises their USSC nomination, it compromises the ongoing conflict in Iraq, it compromises all of the "political capital" that Bush clamied to have after the election, etc. The list is ongoing. Not to mention that the investigation isn't even over. Take solace in the fact that this will still be in the news (the trial, any further grand jury developments and indictments) next year during the elections, along with DeLay and Frist. They were punked with Harriet Miers, devastated by Katrina, their administration is imploding, and it's safe to say that they're pretty much doomed at the moment.

I heard someone on MSNBC last night expressing that Bush should step down/be impeached. This is serious. :nod: