Hijacking the Country [Archive]

irishgrl

10-25-2005, 10:15 PM

Brwn_eyes0511

10-25-2005, 10:17 PM

Came across this site (www.fringefolk.com) was instantly hooked :nod:

Black Box voting (http://www.fringefolk.com/bbv.html)
The Vote was Hacked (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm)
Stolen Election 2004 (http://www.votermarch.org/)

Would you like some cheese with that...

Let's move on! PLEASE! Lets work on getting Bush OUT of the White House now. We all know he won!

irishgrl

10-25-2005, 10:25 PM

Would you like some cheese with that...

Let's move on! PLEASE! Lets work on getting Bush OUT of the White House now. We all know he won!

silly rabbit! we all know he DIDNT but he engineered events to occupy the White House anyway! I knew you'd respond......the reason this is important is to EXPOSE it and PREVENT it from happening again. It is vitally important that we get Bush out, and if we can show he never won, so much the better, see?

reebokandlace

10-26-2005, 10:02 AM

I am not sure where gldstwmn is, so I will fill in for her:

CAN WE IMPEACH HIM YET???

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 10:25 AM

There is still part of me that is incredulous that this could happen in the United States in 2005. It makes me really sad and then I just get pissed. At some point, when he no longer wields all this power, everything will come out. Not that it isn't out now, but Americans don't believe anything that ain't on the TV.

reebokandlace

10-26-2005, 10:47 AM

JazmenFlowers

10-26-2005, 10:48 AM

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 12:14 PM

irishgrl

10-26-2005, 12:42 PM

anyone who is mad about this state of affairs should definitely check out www.fringefolk.com there is quite a lot of info there on this topic.

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 12:44 PM

anyone who is mad about this state of affairs should definitely check out www.fringefolk.com there is quite a lot of info there on this topic.

They paying you? Just kidding! I already skimmed thru the home page and it does look cool, I'll check it out when I have some more time, thanks!!

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 12:54 PM

Well, I am afraid the Bush Regime will not end with George. Jeb will run for President and win! By no means is this game over.

that is not going to happen!

However Republicans are going to need to watch themselves come primaries! If they nominate another "electable" candidate...then the dems. are going to win.

reebokandlace

10-26-2005, 02:38 PM

that is not going to happen!

However Republicans are going to need to watch themselves come primaries! If they nominate another "electable" candidate...then the dems. are going to win.

What scares me most is really we have no control. Yes, the people may vote for a dem by an overwhelming majority, but will we see those numbers or will the computer say Jeb has won, regardless of what is real!? Did the dems win by an overwhelming majority last time? We will never really know. Either way, I am losing my civil liberties and people are cheering as we go down in flames.

By the way--- I am a social democrat and a fiscal republican. Our current leader scares the hell out of me. :shocked:

SuzeQuze

10-26-2005, 02:47 PM

What scares me most is really we have no control. Yes, the people may vote for a dem by an overwhelming majority, but will we see those numbers or will the computer say Jeb has won, regardless of what is real!? Did the dems win by an overwhelming majority last time? We will never really know. Either way, I am losing my civil liberties and people are cheering as we go down in flames.

By the way--- I am a social democrat and a fiscal republican. Our current leader scares the hell out of me. :shocked:

:xoxo: Another person with your eyes open. I still have faith we can turn things around. We have to have faith! And don't say Jeb anymore, I have a mini seizure every time I see his name. :lol:

Jyqm

10-26-2005, 02:51 PM

Well, I am afraid the Bush Regime will not end with George. Jeb will run for President and win! By no means is this game over.

Remember, George (and Jeb) are just puppets, if you really think he is the one making all these decisions then you are giving him more credit than he is due -- the real question is, who is the puppet master? That is what really scares me.

Believe it or not, Jeb is actually an intelligent man, and he's very much in control of his government (witness how on top of things he usually is both before and after hurricanes). By no means is he the kept-in-the-dark idiot boy king that his brother became. That doesn't make him a good governor, but it is unfair to categorize him with George in that way.

Jyqm

10-26-2005, 02:52 PM

Lets work on getting Bush OUT of the White House now.

I'll ask again... on what grounds?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:13 PM

What scares me most is really we have no control. Yes, the people may vote for a dem by an overwhelming majority, but will we see those numbers or will the computer say Jeb has won, regardless of what is real!? Did the dems win by an overwhelming majority last time? We will never really know. Either way, I am losing my civil liberties and people are cheering as we go down in flames.

By the way--- I am a social democrat and a fiscal republican. Our current leader scares the hell out of me. :shocked:

I'm a conservative all the way around for the most part. I am not AS conservative on specific social views but when it comes to the government and economy...I'm such a pseudo-libertarian!!!!!!

And in the primaries I'm going to vote for the most right-wing nut on the list! Because that is going to be your Ronald Reagan and that is who is going to vote in your landslides.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:16 PM

I'll ask again... on what grounds?

On any grounds we can get him out on! :lol:

Frankly I hate cronyism and that is exactly what he has resorted to. He has turned his back on his camp.

Neal

10-26-2005, 03:24 PM

And in the primaries I'm going to vote for the most right-wing nut on the list!

Sweetie, do you ever get tired of dodging rotten fruit? :confused:

:wavey:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:26 PM

Sweetie, do you ever get tired of dodging rotten fruit? :confused:

:wavey:

I live for it! :xoxo:

When you look as good as I do! You can just get away with sh*t! :lol:

Neal

10-26-2005, 03:30 PM

When you look as good as I do! You can just get away with sh*t! :lol:

Who says you get away with it? :shrug: :p

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:30 PM

Who says you get away with it? :shrug: :p

I SAY SO! :nod: :woohoo:

Jyqm

10-26-2005, 03:34 PM

On any grounds we can get him out on! :lol:

I suppose that is the standard conservative policy regarding this kind of thing, huh? Hope you have better luck this time around, anyway. Lord knows you've got a bit more to work with.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 03:36 PM

I suppose that is the standard conservative policy regarding this kind of thing, huh? Hope you have better luck this time around, anyway. Lord knows you've got a bit more to work with.

Clinton should have been gone! And if you ask me, they would have never had a case for impeachment (and succeeded) if not for my Ann!

So if anyone can get a President impeached...it is Ann.

She said the title of her new book (due out next year) MIGHT be "Impeach Bush!"

irishgrl

10-26-2005, 11:19 PM

Clinton should have been gone! And if you ask me, they would have never had a case for impeachment (and succeeded) if not for my Ann!

So if anyone can get a President impeached...it is Ann.

She said the title of her new book (due out next year) MIGHT be "Impeach Bush!"

I swear, sometimes I think you are living a lucid dream and have no clue about the real world.....where you get the idea Ann Coulter was responsible for impeaching Clinton is anybody's guess. Shes a human whoopie cushion. a Vertible Old Faithful spewing bad air. Big Freakin Deal. And for all your vaunted faith in her, Im gonna LAFF MY BUTT OFF when she fails to impeach Monkey Boy. (it is too bad the country has to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune a la Keystone Kops in the White House...)

Brwn_eyes0511

10-26-2005, 11:27 PM

I swear, sometimes I think you are living a lucid dream and have no clue about the real world.....where you get the idea Ann Coulter was responsible for impeaching Clinton is anybody's guess. Shes a human whoopie cushion. a Vertible Old Faithful spewing bad air. Big Freakin Deal. And for all your vaunted faith in her, Im gonna LAFF MY BUTT OFF when she fails to impeach Monkey Boy. (it is too bad the country has to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune a la Keystone Kops in the White House...)

She has been credited by several people for playing a key role in getting Clinton impeached dear...

SteveMacD

10-27-2005, 09:33 AM

She has been credited by several people for playing a key role in getting Clinton impeached dear...
And, she's been credited by even more people for being a big idiot.

dissention

10-27-2005, 09:35 AM

Clinton should have been gone! And if you ask me, they would have never had a case for impeachment (and succeeded) if not for my Ann!

Surely you jest. She was an unpaid advisor to the Paula Jones camp. And they lost in court. The Paula Jones bull**** would have led to the Monica Lewinsky bull**** with or without Manny.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 09:42 AM

Surely you jest. She was an unpaid advisor to the Paula Jones camp. And they lost in court. The Paula Jones bull**** would have led to the Monica Lewinsky bull**** with or without Manny.

I'm talking about more than simply Paula Jones' briefs. She pretty much laid out the ground work with "High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

dissention

10-27-2005, 09:46 AM

I'm talking about more than simply Paula Jones' briefs. She pretty much laid out the ground work with "High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Ha. Talk about a stretch. :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 10:11 AM

Ha. Talk about a stretch. :laugh:

Well it's not like I'm the lonely little one here giving her credit for the part she played. Even Phil "canceled" Donahue gave her proper credit for it!

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 10:13 AM

I'm a conservative all the way around for the most part. I am not AS conservative on specific social views but when it comes to the government and economy...I'm such a pseudo-libertarian!!!!!!

And in the primaries I'm going to vote for the most right-wing nut on the list! Because that is going to be your Ronald Reagan and that is who is going to vote in your landslides.

No - you are not. You are a religious conservative who wants the govt. to enforce Christianity over all other religions in direct violation of the First Amendment. You are also an uninformed and unleared rube who refuses to call facts facts and instead gives unsupprted opinions on things you read off of some religious right wing hate site. That is what you are and why you try to hide that is beyond me.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 10:14 AM

No - you are not. You are a religious conservative who wants the govt. to enforce Christianity over all other religions in direct violation of the First Amendment. That is what you are and why you try to hide that is beyond me.

Because that is just not true! :laugh:

Christianity isn't being forced on anyone.

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 10:17 AM

Because that is just not true! :laugh:

Christianity isn't being forced on anyone.

Him - didn't you just say yesterday that this is a Christian nation and I should get used to that. What did you mean by that? Please be specific.

irishgrl

10-27-2005, 10:24 AM

Because that is just not true! :laugh:

Christianity isn't being forced on anyone.
obviously you cant say that with a straight face, hence the laffing smilie....

because the truth of the matter is that it most certainly IS being forced on ALL of us, from the classroom to the bedroom to the courtroom from the cradle to the grave, and I do NOT call myself a Christian in the manner of the wacko fundies of today.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 10:50 AM

obviously you cant say that with a straight face, hence the laffing smilie....

because the truth of the matter is that it most certainly IS being forced on ALL of us, from the classroom to the bedroom to the courtroom from the cradle to the grave, and I do NOT call myself a Christian in the manner of the wacko fundies of today.

If anything Christians are being oppressed.

It shouldn't be a holiday, no pledge in the classrooms...

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 10:51 AM

Him - didn't you just say yesterday that this is a Christian nation and I should get used to that. What did you mean by that? Please be specific.

Well this is essentially a Christian nation. But I don't think THAT EVERYONE that lives in the USA should be forced into Christianity...no.

gldstwmn

10-27-2005, 10:51 AM

I am not sure where gldstwmn is, so I will fill in for her:

CAN WE IMPEACH HIM YET???

Thank you! :wavey:

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 10:56 AM

Well this is essentially a Christian nation. But I don't think THAT EVERYONE that lives in the USA should be forced into Christianity...no.

So why use only the Judeo-Christian form of marriage? By allowing only one form to be officially recognized by the govt. and allowing automatic benefits otherwise unavailable to flow to that marriage, one religion is being promoted over another. Thus, the only conclusion is for the govt. not to be in the business of marriage at all or in any way. Yet, the Christian right will never allow that because they for some reason think that if the US Govt. does not put their religion first, their religion will somehow fail or be less. That insecurity is ridiculous to me because I would believe regardless of what the Govt. told me. In the end, politicians know religion is a wedge issue and they use it that way, which belies the true intent of any form of Christianity I know of.

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 10:58 AM

If anything Christians are being oppressed.

It shouldn't be a holiday, no pledge in the classrooms...

How is a lack of govt. recognition of those stopping you from particiapting in them?

As for the Pledge, "under God" was put in there to stop Communism and as a way to force Christianity down the throats of Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.htm

Jyqm

10-27-2005, 11:50 AM

If anything Christians are being oppressed.

LOL.

I never use acronyms like that, but: LOL.

In fact: ROFLMAO.

If you ever want to take a day off, Brandon, let me know. I'm pretty sure I could write all of your posts for you.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 11:52 AM

How is a lack of govt. recognition of those stopping you from particiapting in them?

As for the Pledge, "under God" was put in there to stop Communism and as a way to force Christianity down the throats of Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.htm

I was aware of that. So now we are supposed to, what, remove it?

dissention

10-27-2005, 11:52 AM

I was aware of that. So now we are supposed to, what, remove it?

Bingo. :woohoo:

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 11:54 AM

Bingo. :woohoo:

That is bullsh*t and you know it!

And also you have to know that it isn't going to happen.

But I hear the scamper of little liberal feet at the courts right now! Because we all know that can't get what the want the democratic way!

dissention

10-27-2005, 11:55 AM

That is bullsh*t and you know it!

How is it bull****? "God" was added to the Pledge 50 years ago. It was not in it originally and it has no place in it.

Keep espousing your fundie views, it just makes you look more and more idiotic.

DavidMn

10-27-2005, 11:56 AM

How is it bull****? "God" was added to the Pledge 50 years ago. It was not in it originally and it has no place in it.

Keep espousing your fundie views, it just makes you look more and more idiotic.I agree with you on that.:nod:

dissention

10-27-2005, 11:58 AM

I agree with you on that.:nod:

The government simply should not be sponsoring religious beliefs or deities. It's as simple as that.

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 11:59 AM

dissention

10-27-2005, 12:00 PM

And we will keep winning the democratic way, your troops can't and you know it! :wavey:

I'd much rather be a member of the right minority than the wrong majority. :woohoo:

It's just a shame that "conservatives" aren't the majority, as much as you like to think they are.

DavidMn

10-27-2005, 12:01 PM

The government simply should not be sponsoring religious beliefs or deities. It's as simple as that.It's too bad mroe people can't have common sense like that.:distress:

DavidMn

10-27-2005, 12:02 PM

I'd much rather be a member of the right minority than the wrong majority. :woohoo:

It's just a shame that "conservatives" aren't the majority, as much as you like to think they are.It's seemed to me that the really zealous conservatives have always screamed the loudest, dont you think?

Brwn_eyes0511

10-27-2005, 12:03 PM

I'd much rather be a member of the right minority than the wrong majority. :woohoo:

It's just a shame that "conservatives" aren't the majority, as much as you like to think they are.

Well that's good, right? What was that quote...about when you are part of the majority you know you are in the wrong...or something to that nature.

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 12:21 PM

I was aware of that. So now we are supposed to, what, remove it?

Well, yes. And - stop acting like it is in there for any other reason and was innocuous in its intent. It wasn't. Thus, it fails the Lemon test.

Jyqm

10-27-2005, 12:21 PM

But I hear the scamper of little liberal feet at the courts right now! Because we all know that can't get what the want the democratic way!

I don't recall any democracy being involved when the phrase when sandwiched in there in the first place.

Take note, though, Brown Eyes. Here is another wonderful instance of how you epitomize hypocrisy. On the one hand, you seem to think that liberals try to solve all of their problems through legal action, as opposed to "the democratic way." (I wasn't aware that our court system was not part our democracy, but I assume you mean through voting, though I'm not sure why something like the Pledge of Allegience would ever be a matter of voting, but now I'm just getting off-track.) On the other hand, for the past several weeks, you have been farting "Impeach Bush!" in every direction - you elected him "the democratic way," but now that he's proved to be just as incompetent as you've always feared, you want the law to remove him on "whatever" grounds somebody can dream up.

I don't expect you recognize this as blatant hypocrisy. That would require actual thought and consideration of the issues at hand. But feel free to offer up some utterly meaningless catchphrase, followed by your favorite cheerful emoticon of the moment.

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 12:22 PM

And we will keep winning the democratic way, your troops can't and you know it! :wavey:

Like W's election.

Like the Calif. Legislatures recent pro gay stance which Arnold vetoed.

Maybe you think black people should still be in the back of the bus until the Legis. stopped that cr*p.

On edit - you never did answer my question, which was why is it so important for you to have the government enforce your Christian ideals? Do you feel lessened in your faith if it does not?

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 12:24 PM

. . . On the other hand, for the past several weeks, you have been farting "Impeach Bush!" in every direction . . . .

OMG - I would kiss you for that if I were there :laugh: :laugh:

DavidMn

10-27-2005, 12:26 PM

I don't recall any democracy being involved when the phrase when sandwiched in there in the first place.

Take note, though, Brown Eyes. Here is another wonderful instance of how you epitomize hypocrisy. On the one hand, you seem to think that liberals try to solve all of their problems through legal action, as opposed to "the democratic way." (I wasn't aware that our court system was not part our democracy, but I assume you mean through voting, though I'm not sure why something like the Pledge of Allegience would ever be a matter of voting, but now I'm just getting off-track.) On the other hand, for the past several weeks, you have been farting "Impeach Bush!" in every direction - you elected him "the democratic way," but now that he's proved to be just as incompetent as you've always feared, you want the law to remove him on "whatever" grounds somebody can dream up.

I don't expect you recognize this as blatant hypocrisy. That would require actual thought and consideration of the issues at hand. But feel free to offer up some utterly meaningless catchphrase, followed by your favorite cheerful emoticon of the moment.I also found it amusing when the religious zealots were calling for Jeb's head when he wouldnt blatantly break the law to inervene in the Terry Schiavo case.:nod:

SuzeQuze

10-27-2005, 12:27 PM

OMG - I would kiss you for that if I were there :laugh: :laugh:

And I'll take it from there, thank you very much! :lol:

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 12:27 PM

And I'll take it from there, thank you very much! :lol:

GANG BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:laugh: :rolleyes:

strandinthewind

10-27-2005, 12:28 PM

I also found it amusing when the religious zealots were calling for Jeb's head when he wouldnt blatantly break the law to inervene in the Terry Schiavo case.:nod:

and the religious zealots did not mind abusing the courts then did they :rolleyes: