Narnia

[strandinthewind]

http://www.moviefone.com/narnia.


Go here for the trailer.

I love this kind of stuff and cannot wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dissention]

It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

[strandinthewind]

It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

It should be a huge hit with the fundies. Jeb Bush is seeing to that. :laugh:

I'm a huge fan of Tilda Swinton, but I don't know if I'll end up seeing it.

:shocked:

Josh + C.S. Lewis = non workable equation.

[dissention]

Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:

I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

[strandinthewind]

I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

But, that book is on many many other lists :shrug: It is considered a modern classic children's story :shrug:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I just find it funny that the movie is being released by a company that donates loads to Republicans (Walden Media) and Jeb Bush is telling the children of Florida to read the book so that they can participate in the "Just Read, Florida" contest.

C.S. Lewis is great.

You find a problem with EVERYTHING that involved Christianity don't you? :lol:

[dissention]

Oh, and the last book that "Just Read, Florida" sponsored (Carl Hiaasen's "Hoot") is also being made into a movie. By Walden Media. :laugh:

[dissention]

C.S. Lewis is great.

You find a problem with EVERYTHING that involved Christianity don't you? :lol:

When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

[amber]

But, that book is on many many other lists :shrug: It is considered a modern classic children's story :shrug:
I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

Boring...

It's time to get over it Josh! :D

[strandinthewind]

Oh, and the last book that "Just Read, Florida" sponsored (Carl Hiaasen's "Hoot") is also being made into a movie. By Walden Media. :laugh:

Sadly, I have not read that one, but Carl Hiasson's other books have been slamming to the anti environmentalists - so how is that a right wing thing?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Sadly, I have not read that one, but Carl Hiasson's other books have been slamming to the anti environmentalists - so how is that a right wing thing?

shockingly not all conservatives are anti-environment. :rolleyes:

[strandinthewind]

I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie.

[dissention]

so how is that a right wing thing?

I never said this particular thing (Hiaasen's book) was necessarily a "right-wing thing," I just find the partnership between the state of Florida and Walden Media to be interesting.

[strandinthewind]

When the government is sponsoring it, you can bet your ass I do.

I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1849 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

I mean in theory LOTR is about a religion - should that not be read. Should all of the Greek Mythology not be read. Should Plato, Aristotle, etc. not be allowed? They all are heavily religious in theme.

[strandinthewind]

I never said this particular thing (Hiaasen's book) was necessarily a "right-wing thing," I just find the partnership between the state of Florida and Walden Media to be interesting.

How so??????

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1949 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

Exactly. Forget the wonderful poetry of Milton and such...

There is so much Christian literature out there in public schools...what do you plan we do Josh, stage a burning?

[dissention]

I agree, but I fail to see how reading the Chronicles of Narnia is supporting one religion. I mean are kids never supposed to read anything that has any religious message at all. If so, then all books prior to like 1949 would have to be omitted and most of today's classics as well.

Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

[strandinthewind]

Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

. . .and the Illiad and the Odessy are religious prables as well. Should we ban them?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

. . .and the Illiad and the Odessy are religious prables as well. Should we ban them?

burn them. :rolleyes:

[dissention]

How so??????

I don't know, use your brain. Walden Media, a company owned by big Republican donor Phil Anschutz, is getting all this publicity for their movie projects from Jeb Bush and the state of Florida. I find that interesting, but you may not.

[strandinthewind]

Go to the "Just Read, Florida" website. They link to Walden Media, which has a whole section on "17-week Narnia Bible Study for children." The book itself is pretty much an alternative telling of the story of Christ.

Here is the site, which has no such link I could find

http://www.justreadflorida.com/

[strandinthewind]

I don't know, use your brain. Walden Media, a company owned by big Republican donor Phil Anschutz, is getting all this publicity for their movie projects from Jeb Bush and the state of Florida. I find that interesting, but you may not.

Well, there is no secret that they are religious zealots. But, that does not make The Chonicles of Narnia less of a classic does it?

[dissention]

Here is the site, which has no such link I could find

http://www.justreadflorida.com/

They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

Are you sure that it was EVER even there?

[dissention]

But, that does not make The Chonicles of Narnia less of a classic does it?

Have I argued such a thing? I think not. All I said was that I don't particularly care for the government promoting a book that retells the story of Christ. You don't have to agree with me, dollface.

[dissention]

Are you sure that it was EVER even there?

Considering I went to it using the "Just Read, Florida" website, yes, I am.

[amber]

Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie.
Yep. Oh, and I don't like LOTR. Not that that makes it bad, of course.
I don't want to see people act out those parts, and everything else. I can't envision them doing such a good job that I will like the movie. :shrug:
It's possible, and I hope they do, but I really doubt it.
I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special. :)

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Considering I went to it using the "Just Read, Florida" website, yes, I am.

Ok. I believe you.

[strandinthewind]

Have I argued such a thing? I think not. All I said was that I don't particularly care for the government promoting a book that retells the story of Christ. You don't have to agree with me, dollface.

Here is the Brevard County reading list:

Kindergarten

Moongame, Frank Asch
Any title by Byron Barton
Any title by Stan Berenstain
It Begins With A, Stephanie Calmenson
The Very Busy Spider, Eric Carle
Any title by Eric Carle
Ten Black Dots, Donald Crews
Tomie DePaola's Mother Goose, Tomie DePaola
Color Zoo, Lois Ehlert
The Three Little Pigs, Paul Galdone
I Read Signs, Tana Hoban
Any title by Tana Hoban
Peter's Chair, Ezra Jack Keats
Ten Apples Up on Top!, Theo Lesieg
Froggy Learns to Swim, Jonathan London
Alphabetics, Suse MacDonald
Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What Do you See?, Bill Martin, Jr.
Chicka Chicka Boom Boom, Bill Martin, Jr.
The Little Engine That Could, Watty Piper
Any Curious George book, H. A. Rey
Richard Scarry's Best Mother Goose Book, Richard Scarry
Where The Wild Things Are, Maurice Sendak
The Cat in the Hat, Dr. Seuss
Hop on Pop, Dr. Seuss
Any additional title by Dr. Seuss
Have You Seen My Duckling, Nancy Tafari
Mouse Count, Ellen Walsh
Cat on the Mat, Brian Wildsmith

Grade One

What Comes in 2's, 3's, and 4's?, Suzanne Aker
Goodbye House, Frank Asch
Goodnight Moon, Margaret Wise Brown
The Very Hungry Caterpillar, Eric Carle
School Bus, Donald Crews
Color Farm, Lois Ehlert
Eating the Alphabet, Eric Ehlert
Zoo, Gail Gibbons
Jessica, Kevin Henkes
I Read Signs, Tana Hoban
Look! Look! Look!, Tana Hoban
Rosie's Walk, Pat Hutchins
Alphabetics, Suse MacDonald
Chicka Chicka Boom Boom, Bill Martin, Jr.
All By Myself, Mercer Mayer
Blueberries for Sal, Robert McCloskey
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, Laura Numeroff
Curious George Goes to School, H. A. Rey
In Our House, Anne Rockwell
We're Going on a Bear Hunt, Michael Rosen
My Many Colored Days, Dr. Seuss
Mouse Paint, Ellen Stoll Walsh
Timothy Goes to School, Rosemary Wells
I Went Walking, Sue Williams
The Napping House, Audrey Wood

Grade Two

Miss Nelson Is Missing, James Allard
Flat Stanley, Jeff Brown
Arthur's Eyes, Marc Brown
The Little House, Virginia Burton
Stellaluna, Janell Cannon
The Josefina Story Quilt, Eleanor Coerr
Miss Rumphius, Barbara Cooney
Clean Your Room, Harvey Moon!, Pat Cummings
Corduroy, Don Freeman
Millions of Cats, Wanda Gag
My Father's Dragon, Ruth Gannett
Today Was a Terrible Day, Patricia Giff
Grasshopper on the Road, Arnold Lobel
Mouse Soup, Arnold Lobel
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, Laura Joffe Numeroff
Molly the Brave and Me, Jane O'Conner
Any book from the Magic Tree House Series, Mary Pope Osborne
Amelia Bedelia, Peggy Parish
The Rainbow Fish, Marcus Pfister
The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, Jon Scieszka
Any book from the Nate the Great Series, Marjorie W. Sharmat
Alexander and the Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day, Judith Viorst
The Biggest Bear, Lynd Ward
Owl Moon, Jane Yolen
A New Coat for Anna, Harriet Ziefert

Grade Three

Cam Jansen and the Chocolate Fudge Mystery, David A. Alder
Miss Nelson Has a Field Day, Harry Allard
Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great, Judy Blume
Gerbils, Pets, and Other Small Rodents, Ray Broekel
Julian, Secret Agent, Ann Cameron
Man Out at First, Matt Christopher
Ramona the Brave, Beverly Clearly
Case for Jenny Archer, Ellen Conford
Fantastic Mr. Fox, Roald Dahl
Comets, Asteroids, and Meteors, Dennis Fradin
Busybody Nora, Johanna Hurwitz
Herbie Jones and the Class Gift, Suzy Kline
Rocks and Minerals, Illa Podendorf
Whales and Sea Mammals, Elsa Posella
Something Big Has Been Here, Jack Prelutsky
Soccer, Bert Rosenthal
Endangered Animals, Lynn M. Stone
Amusement Park Mystery, Gertrude Warner
Camp Out Mystery, Gertrude Warner
On the Way Home, Laura Ingles Wilder

Grade Four

Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing, Judy Blume
Dear Mr. Henshaw, Beverly Cleary
If You're Not Here Raise Your Hand, Kalli Dakos
Aliens for Breakfast, Jonathan Etra
The People Could Fly: American Black Folk Tales, Virginia Hamilton
Misty of Chincoteague, Marguerite Henry
Bunnicula, James and Deborah Howe
Babe the Gallant Pig, Dick King-Smith
Arthur for the Very First Time, Patricia MacLachlan
Homer Price, Robert McCloskey
The Fear Place, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Shiloh, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Mayfield Crossing, Vaunda Micheaux Nelson
Skinnybones, Barbara Park
The Green Book, Jill Paton Walsh
Minty: Story of a Young Harriet Tubman, Alan Schroeder
Fourth Grade Rats, Jerry Spinelli
Abel's Island, William Steig
The Mysteries of Harris Burdick, Chris Van Allsburg
The Castle in the Attic, Elizabeth Winthrop

Grade Five

Poppy, Avi
Followers of the North Star, Susan Lechner & Susan Alman
In the Eyes of the Cat: Japanese Poetry for All Seasons, Demi
Around the World in a Hundred Years, Jean Fritz
This Time, Tempe Wick?, Patricia Lee Gauch
Five Brave Explorers, Wade Hudson
Helen Keller: The Story of My Life, Helen Keller
To Walk the Sky Path, Phyllis R. Naylor
Rosa Parks, My Story, Rosa Parks
Indian in the Cupboard, Lynne Reid Banks
The Return of the Indian in the Cupboard, Lynne Reid Banks
The Secret of the Indian, Lynne Reid Banks
Heartland, Diane Seibert
The Light in the Attic, Shel Silverstein
Call It Courage, Armstrong Sperry
Looking for Pa: a Civil War Journal, Geraldine Lee Susi
Follow the Drinking Gourd, Jeanette Winter
Dear Levi: Letters from the Overland Trail, Elvira Woodruff
Middle SchoolFiction and Nonfiction
Watership Down, Richard Adams
Little Women, Louisa May Alcott
Sounder, William Armstrong
Tuck Everlasting, Natalie Babbitt
Stories of Gods and Heroes, Sally Benson
Cross Section, Stephen Biesty
Tiger Eyes, Judy Blume
Histories of Immigrant Teens, Janet Bode
The Moves Make the Man, Bruce Brooks
The Secret Garden, Frances H. Burnett
Summer of the Swans, Betsy Byars
White Mountains, John Christopher
House on Mango Street, Sandra Cisneros
A Girl from Yamhill, Beverly Cleary
My Brother Sam Is Dead, James and Chris Collier
Face on the Milk Carton, Caroline Cooney
Catherine, Called Birdie, Karen Cushman
D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths, Ingri and Edgar D'Aulaire
The Courage of Sara Noble, Alice Dalgliesh
Great Expectations, Charles Dickens
Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, Frederick Douglass
April Morning, Howard Fast
Zlata's Diary, Zlata Filipovic
Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl, Anne Frank
Johnny Tremain, Elizabeth Forbes
The Wright Brothers, Russell Freedman
My Side of the Mountain, Jean Craighead George
Summer of My German Soldier, Bette Greene
Phoebe and the General, Judith Griffin
M.C. Higgins the Great, Virginia Hamilton
The Trouble with Lemons, Daniel Hayes
Eye of the Beholder, Daniel Hayes
The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway
Hiroshima, Jon Hersey
The Outsiders, S. E. Hinton
Thank You, Ma'am, Langston Hughes
Charles, Shirley Jackson
Phantom Tollbooth, Norton Juster
From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, E. L. Konigsburg
21 Great Stories, Abraham lass
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee
The Call of the Wild, Jack London
Number of the Stars, Lois Lowry
Skylark, Patricia MacLachlan
Anne of Greene Gables, Lucy Maud Montgomery
Owls in the Family, Farley Mowat
Scopes Trial, Jim Murphy
Fallen Angels, Walter Dean Myers
Shiloh, Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Island of the Blue Dolphins, Scott O'Dell
Animal Farm, George Orwell
Lyddie, Katherine Patterson
Hatchet, Gary Paulsen
The Foxman, Gary Paulsen
The Giver, Gary Paulsen
Woodsong, Gary Paulsen
Westing Fame, Ellen Raskin
Where the Red Fern Grows, Wilson Rawls
The Upstairs Room, Johanna Reiss
Journey Room, Johanna Reiss
Killer Angels, Michael Shaara
Call It Courage, Armstrong Sperry
Maniac Magee, Jerry Spinelli
The Pearl, John Steinbeck
Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, Mildred Taylor
The Cay, Theodore Taylor
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Mark Twain
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Mark Twain
The Homecoming, Cynthia Voigt
So Far from the Bamboo Grove, Yoko Kawashima Watkins
Night, Terry Ann White
Dragonwings, Lawrence Yep
The Pigmen, Paul Zindel
Folklore
The Crest and the Hide and Other African Stories, Harold Cowlander
The People Could Fly, Virginia Hamilton
Three Strong Women, Claus Stamm
Favorite Folktales from Around the World, Jane Yolen

Fantasy and Science Fiction
Book of Three, Lloyd Alexander
I. Robot, Isaac Asimov
Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury
Martian Chronicles, Ray Bradbury
Moss Flower, Brian Jacques
Monster's Ring, Bruce Coville
George's Marvelous Medicine, Roald Dahl
The Ear, The Eye, and the Arm, Nancy Farmer
Mythical Monsters, Charles Gould
Swiftly Tilting Planet, Madeleine L'Engle
Dragonquest, Anne McCaffrey
The Hobbit, J. R. R. Tolkien
War of the Worlds, H. G. Wells
Great Grandfather's Dragon Tale, Jane Yolen

Poetry
The Sun is On, Linda Michelle Barron
Reflections on a Gift of Watermelon, Stephen Dunning
Joyful Noise, Paul Fleischman
You Come Too, Robert Frost
Inner Chimes, Bobbi Goldstein
Dreams, Langston Hughes
The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Wadsworth, Williams Longfellow
The Highwayman, Alfred Noyes


High School

The Fellowship of the Ring, Tolkien
To Kill a Mockingbird, Lee
The Joy Luck Club, Tan
A Tale of Two Cities, Dickens
Heart of Darkness, Conrad
Catcher in the Rye, Salinger
The Killer Angels, Shaara
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Kesey
Girl with a Pearl Earring, Chevalier
Anne Frank: Diary of a Young Girl, Frank
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This is hardly a Jesus only list :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

. . . I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special. :)

You are welcome.

[dissention]

This is hardly a Jesus only list :shrug:

What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.

[strandinthewind]

They must have removed it after all the hoopla earlier this month.

Thank goodness!!!!!

[strandinthewind]

What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.

Nanaria is such a thing. Kids read it because it is educational, well written, etc. - just like all those other books on the list, which is why I posted the list.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Here is the Brevard County reading list:




WHERE THE F*CK IS WUTHERING HEIGHTS and all of the other wonderful British novels?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

What's your point? There shouldn't be any Jesus books, period. Unless it's for educational purposes in history classes, and only if it isn't endorsed and is tempered with other viewpoints, religion has no place in public schools.
Reason # 117 of why there should be no public schools.

When I was in HS I took a "Bible as History" class. And, yes, I went to a public school...unfortunately.

[mylittledemon]

Well, it is very religious in its underlying message, etc.

But, the books were great even without that :shrug:



???????

The books have a very Christian message. The whole story with the Lion sacrificing himself...then returning to life because he was innocent. At any rate, the books are EXCELLENT...i've been reading them since I was young.

[CreepingDeath]

I've liked The Chronicles of Narnia since I was a kid and can't wait for the movies. I'm a little weary as to how good they'll be though. Some things are ok to read, like talking animals for example, but might end up looking very comical on the big screen.

[amber]

I've liked The Chronicles of Narnia since I was a kid and can't wait for the movies. I'm a little weary as to how good they'll be though. Some things are ok to read, like talking animals for example, but might end up looking very comical on the big screen.
Thank you.

[strandinthewind]

I've liked The Chronicles of Narnia since I was a kid and can't wait for the movies. I'm a little weary as to how good they'll be though. Some things are ok to read, like talking animals for example, but might end up looking very comical on the big screen.

But, then again, you have the recent production of LOTR which was brilliant. So, it can be done despite Amber's hatred of the mere thought much less LOTR :laugh:

But, I agree the potnetial is, as alwyas, there for a silly production.

[amber]

But, then again, you have the recent production of LOTR which was brilliant. So, it can be done despite Amber's hatred of the mere thought much less LOTR :laugh:

But, I agree the potnetial is, as alwyas, there for a silly production.

That's what I was talking about!
Now it has "potential...for a silly production", but when I said it did, it was assinine.
Got it.

[jadegypsy]

Oh my goodness some of those books for Grade 5 are insane, the kids just aren't ready for them, anything by Dickens shouldn't be attempted till HS its way to convoluted and detailed, as for some of the others they border on violence and being rather graphic or a bit to complex for kids that age, To Kill a Mocking Bird is wasted on anyone younger then about 13, Call of The Wild is a bit savage and would also be over most kids heads, although perhaps that list was 5th grade and up?

A for Chirstianity well I read the whole Narina series and missed the influence, but then again I never read the bible so perhaps thats why...

So where are the Little House on the Prarie books?

Glad to see "Where the Red Fern Grows" is on there...

Why no Ronald Dahl...?

[strandinthewind]

That's what I was talking about!
Now it has "potential...for a silly production", but when I said it did, it was assinine.
Got it.

No, you originally said:

I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

I then replied:

Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie?

To which you then replied (comment supplied) :

Yep. [presumbaly in response to the last question] Oh, and I don't like LOTR. Not that that makes it bad, of course. I don't want to see people act out those parts, and everything else. I can't envision them doing such a good job that I will like the movie. It's possible, and I hope they do, but I really doubt it. I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special.

_____________________________

Thus, my assinine comment was to your first statement which in no way qualified the silly production angle you later took on.

[amber]

No, you originally said:

I love those books, which is why I don't want to see a movie version. You know, all christianity aside?

I then replied:

Well, that is assinine. The LOTR movies were good if not great adaptations of Tolkein's great works and pretty much all movies come from books. So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie?

To which you then replied (comment supplied) :

Yep. [presumbaly in response to the last question] Oh, and I don't like LOTR. Not that that makes it bad, of course. I don't want to see people act out those parts, and everything else. I can't envision them doing such a good job that I will like the movie. It's possible, and I hope they do, but I really doubt it. I'm so glad you included the word "assinine" in that post, too. That was extra special.

_____________________________

Thus, my assinine comment was to your first statement which in no way qualified the silly production angle you later took on.

Why even call my first statement assinine? Of course I meant because it could have silly production, or as I'd say, not be as good as the books. What else could you possibly infer from those words?
Whatever. If you want to call me assinine, and with such little provocation, then I'll just step aside, because I don't get it or like it. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Why even call my first statement assinine? Of course I meant because it could have silly production, or as I'd say, not be as good as the books. What else could you possibly infer from those words?
Whatever. If you want to call me assinine, and with such little provocation, then I'll just step aside. :wavey:

You made no such qualifying remark in your first statement. Then, when asked to qualify it, you apparently said that you thought no book should ever be made into a movie, which is assinine as I noted in my inference in my first response.

[amber]

Well, you then apparently said that you though no book should ever be made into a movie, which is assinine as I noted in my inference in my first response.
I didn't say that. I said I didn't want these books to be made into a movie, because I love them.

I said "I love these books, so of course I don't want them to be made into a movie".
I never said "All books should not be made into movies!"

you know, it's fine. I can withhold my opinion about a Narnia movie if it means I'm going to be called names.
Good Day.

[strandinthewind]

I didn't say that. I said I didn't want these books to be made into a movie, because I love them.

I said "I love these books, so of course I don't want them to be made into a movie".
I never said "All books should not be made into movies!"

Then what were you responding to when you said "Yep" in your second response because the question was "So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie?" - which presumably on its face does not support your current statements "I didn't say that. I said I didn't want these books to be made into a movie, because I love them."

In the end, I no longer care.

you know, it's fine. I can withhold my opinion about a Narnia movie if it means I'm going to be called names.
Good Day.

You always take things so personally. I was not calling you as a person assinine. But, you can think that if you want to :rolleyes:

[CreepingDeath]

But, then again, you have the recent production of LOTR which was brilliant. So, it can be done despite Amber's hatred of the mere thought much less LOTR :laugh:

But, I agree the potnetial is, as alwyas, there for a silly production.

Lord of the Rings was great, but Narnia has more potential of being silly even with steller production. Mice as warriors? Talking beavers? I can hear the idiots laughing now.

[dissention]

You made no such qualifying remark in your first statement. Then, when asked to qualify it, you apparently said that you thought no book should ever be made into a movie, which is assinine as I noted in my inference in my first response.

I didn't infer that at all from what she said. It was made pretty clear that the books are beloved to her and she didn't want them to be ruined by a sub-par film version.

[strandinthewind]

Lord of the Rings was great, but Narnia has more potential of being silly even with steller production. Mice as warriors? Talking beavers? I can hear the idiots laughing now.

It looked pretty good in the clip at that link - I hope all of it is as good. Remember that AWFUL animated thing they did awhile back - OY!

[strandinthewind]

I didn't infer that at all from what she said. It was made pretty clear that the books are beloved to her and she didn't want them to be ruined by a sub-par film version.

When do we ever think alike?

And - what was her "Yep." in response to then?

Moreover, only books she doesn't love should be made into film?

[dissention]

And - what was her "Yep." in response to then?

I'm pretty certain that it wasn't in response to your inference that she thought no book she ever be made into a movie.

[amber]

Then what were you responding to when you said "Yep" in your second response because the question was "So, are you saying no book should ever be made into a movie?" - which presumably on its face does not support your current statements "I didn't say that. I said I didn't want these books to be made into a movie, because I love them."

In the end, I no longer care.



You always take things so personally. I was not calling you as a person assinine. But, you can think that if you want to :rolleyes:

As a matter of fact, I was NOT saying yep to that.

When I say something, and you say "that is assinine" then I take it a bit personally, yeah. But you can pretend that that isn't really like calling me assinine. :rolleyes: And here's your assinine eye rolling right back atcha!

[strandinthewind]

As a matter of fact, I was NOT saying yep to that.

When I say something, and you say "that is assinine" then I take it a bit personally, yeah. But you can pretend that that isn't really like calling me assinine. :rolleyes: And here's your assinine eye rolling right back atcha!

Get off the cross dear.

BTW - what were you saying yep to then as there was only one question in my post.

[amber]

Lord of the Rings was great, but Narnia has more potential of being silly even with steller production. Mice as warriors? Talking beavers? I can hear the idiots laughing now.
Yeah, that's exactly what some of my biggest fears are. And Aslan??

[dissention]

Yeah, that's exactly what some of my biggest fears are. And Aslan??

Did you ever see the BBC versions? :eek:

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, that's exactly what some of my biggest fears are. And Aslan??

Did you even bother to look at the clip I provided?

[amber]

Get off the cross dear.

BTW - what were you saying yep to then as there was only one question in my post.
drop the nails and hammer dear.

Looks like we both need to read a bit more carefully. ;) I was saying "Yep, I don't want the Narnia books made into a movie, despite how "great" LOTR was."

[strandinthewind]

I'm pretty certain that it wasn't in response to your inference that she thought no book she ever be made into a movie.

What other question did it pose then?

[amber]

Did you even bother to look at the clip I provided?
I didn't "not bother", I can't cause I'm at work, with the sound and all. What is your problem, do I have to think this will be a great movie?

[strandinthewind]

drop the nails and hammer dear.

Looks like we both need to read a bit more carefully. ;) I was saying "Yep, I don't want the Narnia books made into a movie, despite how "great" LOTR was."

ah the white feather without explaining the yep response to the only question - but, I accept it nonetheless :cool:

[amber]

Did you ever see the BBC versions? :eek:
Yeah, parts. I didn't like them at all.

[strandinthewind]

I didn't "not bother", I can't cause I'm at work, with the sound and all. What is your problem, do I have to think this will be a great movie?

No, you do not. I was just noting in that comment that you are judging it without seeing it and I posted that clip link so people could see it and discuss it. BTW - that makes your opinion, but not you, even more assinine than before.

[dissention]

What other question did it pose then?

I thought her "Yep" was sarcastic, not serious. Because, in all honesty, your inference that she didn't want any books ever made into movies seemed asinine. :p

[amber]

ah the white feather without explaining the yep response to the only question - but, I accept it nonetheless :cool:
I did explain - I said that I didn't read it carefully.

[strandinthewind]

I did explain - I said that I didn't read it carefully.

Touche' . . . . . . .

[amber]

No, you do not. I was just noting in that comment that you are judging it without seeing it and I posted that clip link so people could see it and discuss it. BTW - that makes your opinion, but not you, even more assinine than before.
I don't have to see the clip to talk about whether or not it is a good idea to make the movie. And to say I do is assinine. Not you, the idea.

[dissention]

Yeah, parts. I didn't like them at all.

They were so boring. I watched them when they aired on PBS back in the eighties and they looked so laughable. :laugh:

The Sand Fairy is another really bad BBC adaptation.

[strandinthewind]

I thought her "Yep" was sarcastic, not serious. Because, in all honesty, your inference that she didn't want any books ever made into movies seemed asinine. :p

still reeling from the drumming you took earlier in the thread dear and looking to attack the one who thrashed your argument :angel:

[amber]

I thought her "Yep" was sarcastic, not serious. Because, in all honesty, your inference that she didn't want any books ever made into movies seemed asinine. :p
Yeah, that's why I didn't get it. Who would ever say no books should be made into movies?

[strandinthewind]

I don't have to see the clip to talk about whether or not it is a good idea to make the movie. And to say I do is assinine. Not you, the idea.

Then your opinion is uninformed.

[dissention]

still reeling from the drumming you took earlier in the thread dear and looking to attack the one who thrashed your argument :angel:

No, just pointing out the obvious to someone who's misinformed. :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, that's why I didn't get it. Who would ever say no books should be made into movies?

You did, but later said you did not read it carefully, which BTW makes my inference drawn from the "Yep" response correct.

[sparky]

The clip didn't work for me.

I read all these books more than once before I was 12, and I loved them.

I never once got a Jesus vibe. And by that time I had read the bible, though my comprehension of it may have been a little challenged by the wording. And just for the record, it was already my opinion at the time, after arguing with someone at a church, and others, that the bible belonged on the shelf between Grimms Fairy Tales and Aesop. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

No, just pointing out the obvious to someone who's misinformed. :xoxo:

misinformed in and on what? Amber admitted she did not read my comment carefully enough when she replied yep to my question. So, I was correct?

[dissention]

And just for the record, it was already my opinion at the time, after arguing with someone at a church, and others, that the bible belonged on the shelf between Grimms Fairy Tales and Aesop. :laugh:

:laugh:

Too bad the stories aren't as good, though.

[amber]

They were so boring. I watched them when they aired on PBS back in the eighties and they looked so laughable. :laugh:

The Sand Fairy is another really bad BBC adaptation.
I also remember I had to see the Lion, Witch, etc. performed by some actors at my school when I was young, and I just hated it. :laugh: I don't really like people in animal costumes, or anything even remotely like that.

[dissention]

misinformed in and on what? Amber admitted she did not read my comment carefully enough when she replied yep to my question. So, I was correct?

Blow some of that hot air over here if you can, it's positively freezing here today.

[strandinthewind]

The clip didn't work for me.

I read all these books more than once before I was 12, and I loved them.

I never once got a Jesus vibe. And by that time I had read the bible, though my comprehension of it may have been a little challenged by the wording. And just for the record, it was already my opinion at the time, after arguing with someone at a church, and others, that the bible belonged on the shelf between Grimms Fairy Tales and Aesop. :laugh:

If you click on the larger one, it should work. I saw both.

[amber]

misinformed in and on what? Amber admitted she did not read my comment carefully enough when she replied yep to my question. So, I was correct?
No, you were not correct, because you called me assinine based on my first comment, which clearly stated that I did not want these books made into movies, and made no mention of all books. So, you are wrong at least as far as the calling me assinine part. :)

[JazmenFlowers]

I read them and loved them and also watched every incarnation of the books as film. I can't wait to see the movie.

[strandinthewind]

Blow some of that hot air over here if you can, it's positively freezing here today.

Good job not answering the question.

[dissention]

I also remember I had to see the Lion, Witch, etc. performed by some actors at my school when I was young, and I just hated it. :laugh: I don't really like people in animal costumes, or anything even remotely like that.

OMG, actors came to my elementary school and performed Willy Wonka. You haven't lived until you've seen a chocolate river onstage. :lol:

[strandinthewind]

No, you were not correct, because you called me assinine based on my first comment, which clearly stated that I did not want these books made into movies. So, you are wrong at least as far as the calling me assinine part. :)

No, your comments were still assinine.

[dissention]

No, your comments were still assinine.

Too bad that's not a word. :p :xoxo: :laugh:

[amber]

No, your comments were still assinine.
You are calling my opinion that I do not want these books I love to be made into (possibly crappy) movies assinine? Is that right? Just so I'm clear, you are calling my opinion assinine. Correct?

[amber]

OMG, actors came to my elementary school and performed Willy Wonka. You haven't lived until you've seen a chocolate river onstage. :lol:
Oh, I was scarred for life. Did you like Willy Wonka? At least there's no animals in it, is there?

[strandinthewind]

You are calling my opinion that I do not want these books I love to be made into (possibly crappy) movies assinine? Is that right? Just so I'm clear, you are calling my opinion assinine. Correct?

No, I am calling the presumption behind it that. I mean should no book you like ever be produced into a movie (please read that carefully this time)?

[amber]

Too bad that's not a word. :p :xoxo: :laugh:
Really? Oh, yeah, it's asinine. darn! He made me spell it wrong, I never even use that word.:laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Too bad that's not a word. :p :xoxo: :laugh:

ah the old Strand can't type defense. Well, while that is so true, it is convenient when you having nothing valid to support your argument.

[dissention]

Oh, I was scarred for life. Did you like Willy Wonka? At least there's no animals in it, is there?

Nooooooo, it was terrible. The chocolate river was cardboard painted brown and cut into the shape of waves. :laugh: And Wonka wore a sky blue velour suit with a top hat.

Nope, no animals.

[amber]

No, I am calling the presumption behind it that. I mean should no book you like ever be produced into a movie (please read that carefully this time)?
There is no presumption behind it, and you shouldn't make one up. At this time, I am only saying these particular books. Did I make any mention whatsoever of other books? NO! Just these ones.
And of course I don't think that no books should be made into movies, otherwise I would have said that. Besides, that would be asinine. :p

[strandinthewind]

. . . Besides, that would be asinine. :p

Which is exactly what I said and then was surprised when you backed it up, which you later retracted.

[dissention]

ah the old Strand can't type defense. Well, while that is so true, it is convenient when you having nothing valid to support your argument.

Oh, plug it up, babe. I was joking aorund with you, but you can't recognize that because you're too busy continuing to argue over Amber's opinion about books being made into movies and her use of "Yep." Now that is asinine.

[amber]

Nooooooo, it was terrible. The chocolate river was cardboard painted brown and cut into the shape of waves. :laugh: And Wonka wore a sky blue velour suit with a top hat.

Nope, no animals.
You poor thing. :(

[amber]

Which is exactly what I said and then was surprised when you backed it up, which you later retracted.
I DIDN'T SAY THAT OPINION!!! I NEVER SAID ALL BOOKS SHOULD NOT BE MADE INTO MOVIES! i SAID THESE BOOKS! And you know it! (or apparently you don't, because you keep arguing as if I had said that, which I did not!)

[strandinthewind]

Oh, plug it up, babe . . . .

Please do not flirt with me right now :p

[strandinthewind]

I DIDN'T SAY THAT OPINION!!! I NEVER SAID ALL BOOKS SHOULD NOT BE MADE INTO MOVIES! i SAID THESE BOOKS! And you know it! (or apparently you don't, because you keep arguing as if I had said that, which I did not!)

Yet, when I asked you for clarification if you did mean that, you said "Yep." - which you later retracted.

[amber]

Yet, when I asked you for clarification if you did mean that, you said "Yep." - which you later retracted.
I didn't so much retract it as said I read it wrong, and was not talking about that.
You called me assinine before that, based on something you inferred that I meant, which I did not mean. Own it. Live it. Cause you know you did it.

[JazmenFlowers]

have you heard about the baby born with no eyelids. the doctors were able to construct some using skin from the baby's circumcision.

unfortunately, the doctor's say he may be a little cock-eyed.

:lol:

[dissention]

Own it. Live it. Cause you know you did it.

I'm putting that one in the memory bank, sweets. :D

[amber]

I'm putting that one in the memory bank, sweets. :D
Cause you want to put it in your next rap song, right?:nod:

[dissention]

Cause you want to put it in your next rap song, right?:nod:

Fo shizzle, boo.

[amber]

have you heard about the baby born with no eyelids. the doctors were able to construct some using skin from the baby's circumcision.

unfortunately, the doctor's say he may be a little cock-eyed.

:lol:

:lol:

yeah, yeah, I know, it's always ridiculous when Strand and I argue. :wavey:
sorry.

[dissention]

:lol:

yeah, yeah, I know, it's always ridiculous when Strand and I argue. :wavey:
sorry.

Remember that thread about the dick-cutting devices in South Africa?

[strandinthewind]

I didn't so much retract it as said I read it wrong, and was not talking about that.

Well, I asked only one question :shrug: But, if not that, then what were you answering yep to.

You called me assinine before that, based on something you inferred that I meant, which I did not mean. Own it. Live it. Cause you know you did it.

Bless you heart :laugh:

I called your post that because I took it to mean that you did not want a book you love to be made into a movie, which is exacltly what you said - presumably because you were scared of the production. I said that was asinine because many books, like LOTR, have been made into great movies. Please show me exactly where I said anything different than that.

[JazmenFlowers]

:lol:

yeah, yeah, I know, it's always ridiculous when Strand and I argue. :wavey:
sorry.
well, it happens. I was about to blow a freakin' gasket last night over the FM/Stevie/LB issue...sometimes you gotta just walk away; and it's hard, especially because I will fight to the death over my Stevie. and it's hard not to take things personally sometimes...just like emails, you gotta read em and move on or confront the person face to face, which we don't have the luxury of doing.

and then sometimes it's healthy to get the juices flowing and know it you still got that fire...I got in an argument one time and came up with a phrase all my friends still use to this day...when you're done, whether you've won or lost, look at em and say "ouch, stings don't it" and walk away...leave em confused...

[strandinthewind]

Remember that thread about the dick-cutting devices in South Africa?

Shiitte stirrer. I still maintain it was perfectly okay to relate that to what would happen here, but apparently that was too much for you to handle :laugh:

[amber]

Well, I asked only one question :shrug: But, if not that, then what were you answering yep to.



Bless you heart :laugh:

I called your post that because I took it to mean that you did not want a book you love to be made into a movie, which is exacltly what you said - presumably because you were scared of the production. I said that was asinine because many books, like LOTR, have been made into great movies. Please show me exactly where I said anything different than that.
Sweetie darling - I don't want to keep up with your convoluted logic anymore.
I said "Those books" not "a book I love" - It's not my fault what you took it to mean.
Why don't you just be right, because I am in my head, and I'm sure, nay positive, that this won't be resolved.
We've both given our arguments, now it's up to the people...:laugh:

:xoxo:

[amber]

Remember that thread about the dick-cutting devices in South Africa?
:laugh: :laugh:
I'm trying to end this one before 25 pages...:laugh:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: :laugh:
I'm trying to end this one before 25 pages...:laugh:

Well, you never did answer my question of what you were saying yep to :wavey:

[sparky]

Well, you never did answer my question of what you were saying yep to :wavey:

You are SUCH an attorney.

:lol:

Again, count on me to hire you if ever I have the need for legal representation.

[amber]

Well, you never did answer my question of what you were saying yep to :wavey:

Yes, I did. In post number 59
Looks like we both need to read a bit more carefully. I was saying "Yep, I don't want the Narnia books made into a movie, despite how "great" LOTR was."

[amber]

You are SUCH an attorney.

:lol:

Again, count on me to hire you if ever I have the need for legal representation.
Dude, this is the second instance of me kicking his ass, logically, just so you know. :laugh: Course, I'm no attorney....

P.S. Just kidding STrand. <3

[sparky]

Dude, this is the second instance of me kicking his ass, logically, just so you know. :laugh: Course, I'm no attorney....

You may be someday !

[wondergirl9847]

Did you ever see the BBC versions? :eek:

I've seen them and enjoyed them. Got some of them on tape. I never read the books as a kid (and I even went to a Christian school. LOL), so I turned on PBS one morning and saw this show that looked kinda neat. Turns out it was Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe. In high school, I asked my English teacher if I could read it for an assignment we had. :)

I had no idea it was based on Christianity or anything of the sort until someone mentioned it to me. :shrug:

I'm dying to see Narnia! Can't wait!

[amber]

You may be someday !
Please don't jinx me like that. Oh, the horror. :laugh:

No, it's a hard and expensive road to become a lawyer, then you actually have to be one, just to pay back your student loans. :laugh: It's too much for me.

[strandinthewind]

Dude, this is the second instance of me kicking his ass, logically, just so you know. :laugh: Course, I'm no attorney....

P.S. Just kidding STrand. <3

Oh stow it and go look at my and Curtie's hot pics here http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=23351&page=13

[dissention]

student loans

The two most heinous words in the human language.

[strandinthewind]

The two most heinous words in the human language.


Oh Honey - I have them too :mad:

[paleshadow]

Oh my goodness some of those books for Grade 5 are insane, the kids just aren't ready for them, anything by Dickens shouldn't be attempted till HS its way to convoluted and detailed, as for some of the others they border on violence and being rather graphic or a bit to complex for kids that age, To Kill a Mocking Bird is wasted on anyone younger then about 13, Call of The Wild is a bit savage and would also be over most kids heads, although perhaps that list was 5th grade and up?

A for Chirstianity well I read the whole Narina series and missed the influence, but then again I never read the bible so perhaps thats why...

So where are the Little House on the Prarie books?

Glad to see "Where the Red Fern Grows" is on there...

Why no Ronald Dahl...?

If kids can have sex and do drugs by the time they hit the 5th grade, what's wrong with expecting them to have a good reading comprehension level?

[sparky]

The two most heinous words in the human language.

They beat the hell out of the following words :

uneducated, dead end job....no future :lol:

Thank God I paid mine off eons ago.

[dissention]

They beat the hell out of the following words :

uneducated, dead end job....no future :lol:

Thank God I paid mine off eons ago.

I still owe Fordham money for the semester I spent there. :laugh: I came to my senses after a month there, knowing I'd be in debt until my senior years if I stayed any longer. One semester was enough and then it was back to state college, babe.

[DavidMn]

I cant wait either!!!:nod:

[strandinthewind]

They beat the hell out of the following words :

uneducated, dead end job....no future :lol:

Thank God I paid mine off eons ago.

It really just depends. If you go to a state school and are a resident of that state and you work while in college, your loans will not be that expensive and will be maybe $200 a month if you get on the quick repayment plan and like $100 a month on the longer ones. In the end, with a little smarts and belt tightening your loans would not be that bad and certainly worth more to a person than not having the education and the opportunities presented by it.

Now, should there be a need for student loans. No, there should not.

[sparky]

certainly worth more to a person than not having the education and the opportunities presented by it.


Ummm...that's kinda what I meant :lol:

Would you like another cocktail ?

[strandinthewind]

Ummm...that's kinda what I meant :lol:

Would you like another cocktail ?

Do you have the straw out?

[sparky]

Do you have the straw out?

I am in my longjohns, so practically, yeah.

[strandinthewind]

I am in my longjohns, so practically, yeah.

I am my FAB new silk jammies - but before the budget started today. I actually sat down and did some additional ciphering and things are not as bad as I thought they were, which is a good thing :laugh: What brought all of this on is I saw my Amex yearly spending and was HORRIFIED by my pagan excess :eek: - some of which you were a part of - thus, you are sharing the blame!

[sparky]

I am my FAB new silk jammies - but before the budget started today. I actually sat down and did some additional ciphering and things are not as bad as I thought they were, which is a good thing :laugh: What brought all of this on is I saw my Amex yearly spending and was HORRIFIED by my pagan excess :eek: - some of which you were a part of - thus, you are sharing the blame!

Hey, speaking of your Amex bill, you never did ship me that green Mercedes.

Pardon me, I have to pull on my speedo and go play Dodge the Dugong.

[strandinthewind]

Hey, speaking of your Amex bill, you never did ship me that green Mercedes.

Pardon me, I have to pull on my speedo and go play Dodge the Dugong.

I know - I want to, its just I am on a budget ya know :wavey:

[dissention]

Dodge the Dugong.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

[mylittledemon]

So anyway...back to the "Narnia" topic. I always enjoyed the first book, The Magicians Nephew. I think they are going to leave all of that out and just start where the 2nd book begins.

[strandinthewind]

So anyway...back to the "Narnia" topic. I always enjoyed the first book, The Magicians Nephew. I think they are going to leave all of that out and just start where the 2nd book begins.

I know. I want to know how they are going to approach it. I hope, like the LOTR movies, they try to include as much as possibe. Sadly, the LOTR had to devote so much time to the fight scenes to attract the audiences that they were forced to cut probably a good thirty to forty minutes of other footage from dropped chapters. I am looking forward to Narnia though as I loved it as well.

[mylittledemon]

I know. I want to know how they are going to approach it. I hope, like the LOTR movies, they try to include as much as possibe. Sadly, the LOTR had to devote so much time to the fight scenes to attract the audiences that they were forced to cut probably a good thirty to forty minutes of other footage from dropped chapters. I am looking forward to Narnia though as I loved it as well.


I am pleased with the way LOTR turned out. I've been reading the books on/off since I was in my teens. The only thing I was really displeased about was that they cut Saruman (Christopher Lee) out of Return of the King...but they put it back in on the extended cut, so thats ok.

[CreepingDeath]

I am pleased with the way LOTR turned out. I've been reading the books on/off since I was in my teens. The only thing I was really displeased about was that they cut Saruman (Christopher Lee) out of Return of the King...but they put it back in on the extended cut, so thats ok.

I'm pleased for the most part, but there's a few thing that really annoyed me.

Elves at Helm's Deep- WTF?? This completely underminds the Last Alliance between elves and men at Mount Doom.

Changing Faramir's character

Making Gimli the comic relief

Cutting out Tom Bombadil, Prince Imrahil, & Elrond's sons

Not having the Scouring of the Shire

[strandinthewind]

I'm pleased for the most part, but there's a few thing that really annoyed me.

Elves at Helm's Deep- WTF?? This completely underminds the Last Alliance between elves and men at Mount Doom.

Changing Faramir's character

Making Gimli the comic relief

Cutting out Tom Bombadil, Prince Imrahil, & Elrond's sons

Not having the Scouring of the Shire

All of those could have been added - along with the Ents ending the battle of Helm's Deep - but the battle scenes were sooooo long that they had to cut something. I wish they would have shot it and then included it in the extended version DVD, off of which they made billions alone.

[amber]

Oh stow it and go look at my and Curtie's hot pics here http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=23351&page=13
I was staring at those earlier, sweets. :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

I was staring at those earlier, sweets. :xoxo:

See, I ain't so bad!!!!!!! :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Do ya like the black and white one in the supine pose?

[amber]

See, I ain't so bad!!!!!!! :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Do ya like the black and white one in the supine pose?

Of course! I saw the whole series, remember? You look hot. But again, if I'm not going to be getting any, I don't stare too long. :D
sorry about your Amex and all those drinks you bought me. :D

[strandinthewind]

. . . sorry about your Amex and all those drinks you bought me. :D

All things must end darling. Also, I am sure my simple budget would horrify most people anyway :laugh:

P.S. I always have jack for your cocktails dear :cool:

[amber]

All things must end darling. Also, I am sure my simple budget would horrify most people anyway :laugh:

P.S. I always have jack for your cocktails dear :cool:
Well, as long as you have a stash...:xoxo:
Yes, I'm sure your budget would horrify me - but that's not the point. :laugh: It's still your budget.

And my Narnia related point is: I always liked the Magicians Nephew the best, too. It's sad if they start after that. In fact, they should just make that the whole movie, if there is going to be one.

[BombaySapphire3]

I read all 7 of the Chronicles when I was a kid and enjoyed them then although I'm currently no fan of C.S. Lewis in general.I saw the 4 minute clip and production wise it does not appear to be on a par with the LOTR films .Maybe if Peter Jackson had directed it.:shrug: To put my two cents into the other debate in this thread I did not get at all that Amber was saying no book should be made into a film ..just the Narnia books, and judging from the clip I tend to agree with that statement.Something about it just seems a bit cheesy.

[reebokandlace]

Ironically, C.S Lewis had stated that the Chronicles of Narnia were NOT Christian stories. (Don't shoot the messenger I am just quoting Lewis) Because of some of his past writings, people assumed they were. Yes, it can be easy to interpret underlying Christian themes in them, (you can do that with Star Wars too) but the overlying theme is "otherworldly". Many people who are now pagan attibute the Chronicles as their first "eye opening" reading experince as a child.

John Milton's work Paradise Lost (and Regained) was a slam on the Church of England (so was his work: Doctine of Divorce). Although Milton had to write it in a tone supporting Christianity so as to not end up in jail. There are people who still believe those books to be Christian.

[jadegypsy]

Hey PaleShadow:

I'm not saying 5th grades can't have a good reading comp level, but to actually understand the underlying themes in those books, isn't possible at a fifth grade level, no mater how many "adult like" things the kids are doing, ones mind just doesn't work at that particular level for most kids...

And your idea of kids in 5th grade doing sex, drugs etc is a little exagerated and an extreme case unless I am missing the sarcasm here...:shocked: :cool:

[mylittledemon]

I'm not saying 5th grades can't have a good reading comp level, but to actually understand the underlying themes in those books, isn't possible at a fifth grade level, no mater how many "adult like" things the kids are doing, ones mind just doesn't work at that particular level for most kids...
:


Just goes to show you how great of a body of work the Chronicles are. You can enjoy them when you're young, and then appreciate them more when you're older.

[jadegypsy]

mylittledemon: I totally agree with you on that, esp for Narina and several other kids books.

Side note: earlier and what paleshadow quoted me on was books that i felt were inappropriate for kids, not so much books that kids should read and enjoy as kids and then read and understand as adults...Alot of books were written as politically masked messages b/c their writters couldn't have written the grown up book and not been arrested by the government (Neverending Story comes to mind), those I'm cool with kids reading, but others like Dickens, Stienback and Mocking Bird I feel need to be read at a more mature level then 5th grade.

[mylittledemon]

mylittledemon: I totally agree with you on that, esp for Narina and several other kids books.
Alot of books were written as politically masked messages b/c their writters couldn't have written the grown up book and not been arrested by the government (Neverending Story comes to mind).


The NeverEnding Story is AWESOME. I love that book. Especially the chapter with Grograman. What a great, great story. Someone should opt that for a movie remake, and really do it some justice.

[strandinthewind]

The NeverEnding Story is AWESOME. I love that book. Especially the chapter with Grograman. What a great, great story. Someone should opt that for a movie remake, and really do it some justice.

I agree!!!!!

Though I liked the movie for what it was, which was not nearly as good.

[LikeAWillow]

those I'm cool with kids reading, but others like Dickens, Stienback and Mocking Bird I feel need to be read at a more mature level then 5th grade.

I read To Kill a Mockingbird in 4th grade for the first time, it was the novel that started me into higher level reading, and I'll always be thankful for that! I've gone back and reread it every year since, and I can always find a deeper meaning to it. I think whether it's appropriate or not just depends on the child, you can't judge an entire age as either ready or unready to read a classic work.

[strandinthewind]

I read To Kill a Mockingbird in 4th grade for the first time, it was the novel that started me into higher level reading, and I'll always be thankful for that! I've gone back and reread it every year since, and I can always find a deeper meaning to it. I think whether it's appropriate or not just depends on the child, you can't judge an entire age as either ready or unready to read a classic work.

Plus, I say the sooner the better as long as they can understand it.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

http://www.moviefone.com/narnia.


Go here for the trailer.

I love this kind of stuff and cannot wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see this!

[jadegypsy]

Likeawillow: Mockingbird was a 9th grade Honors English book for me, and it was due to the type of discussions that can be had at a 9th grade level over those that can't be had a 4th or 5th grade level...Theres a big difference from being able to read the book and being able to comprehend what actually goes on at all the levels of the book. Props though for you reading it at 4th grade, just more of an exception then a rule...and my understanding was the books were meant as a general reading list.

To clarify it's not that I don't believe that kids can "read" the books it's more that I don't feel that most can fully comprehend or have discussions that justify the meaning of the book.


As for the Neverending Story I to would love to see it remade, the movie makes it such a "childs" book with none of the underlying conotations that the book had (greed, conformity, despair, love, family, power...). But then again I doubt it will ever be made into a mature movie, the fantasy of the characters just don't allow for that to happen onscreen:cool: