New Orleans Beating

[dissention]

The AP just released the tape in it's entirety and Newsnight on CNN covered it for more than half an hour earlier. Did anyone happen to catch it? The new footage shows one of the police officers punching the man twice in the face while he's on the ground (with one officer on top of him, another holding him in a headlock, and another holding his feet), then it shows another officer kicking him in the head.

The tape also disproves the defense's assertion that his face was smashed in by falling on the ground. In reality, his head did not hit the ground; an officer had him in a headlock with stopped that from happening. Also, many of the injuries were on the right side of his face, but he fell on his left side.

[GypsySorcerer]

I saw it. He looked passive to me. They weren't trying to subdue him or to keep him from "hurting himself"; they were beating the crap out of him. And they'll probably get away with it.:distress:

[gldstwmn]

The AP just released the tape in it's entirety and Newsnight on CNN covered it for more than half an hour earlier. Did anyone happen to catch it? The new footage shows one of the police officers punching the man twice in the face while he's on the ground (with one officer on top of him, another holding him in a headlock, and another holding his feet), then it shows another officer kicking him in the head.

The tape also disproves the defense's assertion that his face was smashed in by falling on the ground. In reality, his head did not hit the ground; an officer had him in a headlock with stopped that from happening. Also, many of the injuries were on the right side of his face, but he fell on his left side.

I saw it. I'm just as appalled as the first time I saw it. I cannot believe that slimebag lawyer for the police can sit there and lie like that with a straight face.

[dissention]

I saw it. I'm just as appalled as the first time I saw it. I cannot believe that slimebag lawyer for the police can sit there and lie like that with a straight face.

You know what disgusted me about that lawyer? He watched it and smiled and laughed throughout. I felt sick.

[dissention]

I saw it. He looked passive to me. They weren't trying to subdue him or to keep him from "hurting himself"; they were beating the crap out of him. And they'll probably get away with it.:distress:

They will get away with it. Just look at Rodney King. Well, those cops were punished by the federal court, but they were still acquitted at first.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

They will get away with it. Just look at Rodney King. Well, those cops were punished by the federal court, but they were still acquitted at first.

Oh GOD here comes another riot!

Anyone see the Black Panther on H&C tonight? :shocked:

[dissention]

Oh GOD here comes another riot!

Anyone see the Black Panther on H&C tonight? :shocked:

Nope, I like to watch NEWS programs. I don't watch any of that opinion bull****, it's a waste of time. Hannity and Colmes is the pits.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Nope, I like to watch NEWS programs. I don't watch any of that opinion bull****, it's a waste of time. Hannity and Colmes is the pits.

Well if you think you get that from CNN (C stands for Communist) You can have your news! LOL

It makes for a great hour of TV! and I have to say that the members of The Black Panthers are some of the most racist and paranoid individuals I have ever seen.

[dissention]

Well if you think you get that from CNN (C stands for Communist) You can have your news! LOL

I only watch two programs on CNN. I watch nothing else, and that includes MSRNC and Faux News. CNN is, for the most part, just as bad as the toher two networks. Crap crap crap.

It makes for a great hour of TV! and I have to say that the members of The Black Panthers are some of the most racist and paranoid individuals I have ever seen.

You just described the Republican Party.

[strandinthewind]

I saw it. I'm just as appalled as the first time I saw it. I cannot believe that slimebag lawyer for the police can sit there and lie like that with a straight face.

He could not be slimier if he tried. What a sleaze.

Also, the NOPD is famous for ****te like this. It is about time they got caught as they have here.

[sparky]

They will get away with it. Just look at Rodney King. Well, those cops were punished by the federal court, but they were still acquitted at first.

Don't bring up Rodney King if you want to be taken seriously. He went on to run two cars into walls while drunk and beat up a woman. If anything, he wasn't beaten ENOUGH.

[dissention]

Don't bring up Rodney King if you want to be taken seriously. He went on to run two cars into walls while drunk and beat up a woman. If anything, he wasn't beaten ENOUGH.

Give me a break. It's obvious that they had to subdue the ****er, but they beat him almost sixty times with their batons, even while officers were kneeling on his back and holding his legs. That's excessive force if I've ever heard of it.

[strandinthewind]

I think these oficers will be convicted if they do not take a plea. That video screams bad acts and ever expert I head commeming on the beatings said the poilice violate the code like when they hit the heads and bak of the next. The only viable defense the poilce have is that the man resisted arrest, which the film somewhat demonstrates as he is fighting not to be cuffed. I think the black jury in Orleans Parish will have no problem convicting these cops if for nothing else, they have probabkly been harrassed by the police more than one time in the past.

[dissention]

I think these oficers will be convicted if they do not take a plea. That video screams bad acts and ever expert I head commeming on the beatings said the poilice violate the code like when they hit the heads and bak of the next. The only viable defense the poilce have is that the man resisted arrest, which the film somewhat demonstrates as he is fighting not to be cuffed.

Those same experts have said that he could not have truly been resisting arrest when he had not been told he was under arrest and was simply slapped with cuffs. When the Newsnight transcript is posted, I'll find that particular part of the show.

I think the black jury in Orleans Parish will have no problem convicting these cops if for nothing else, they have probabkly been harrassed by the police more than one time in the past.

I'd convict based on that sleazy lawyer alone. :laugh:

[amber]

Don't bring up Rodney King if you want to be taken seriously. He went on to run two cars into walls while drunk and beat up a woman. If anything, he wasn't beaten ENOUGH.
Wasn't there a part no one saw on the tape where he was wacked out of his gourd on PCP and was very violent? I read that. And PCP gives you superhuman strength, apparently.

[dissention]

Wasn't there a part no one saw on the tape where he was wacked out of his gourd on PCP and was very violent? I read that. And PCP gives you superhuman strength, apparently.

They tasered him twice and that didn't have an effect (supposedly due to the PCP), so he lunged at one of the officers with his hands up as if he was going to strangle him. Then he was struck with a baton, fell to the ground, and got the living **** beat out of him while approximately 20 officers, including a supervisor, watched.

[amber]

They tasered him twice and that didn't have an effect (supposedly due to the PCP), so he lunged at one of the officers with his hands up as if he was going to strangle him. Then he was struck with a baton, fell to the ground, and got the living **** beat out of him while approximately 20 officers, including a supervisor, watched.
Ah, I see the problem. Overkill. Almost literally.

[sparky]

Give me a break. It's obvious that they had to subdue the ****er, but they beat him almost sixty times with their batons, even while officers were kneeling on his back and holding his legs. That's excessive force if I've ever heard of it.

Tough. These guys are doing their work in a war zone to this day. They are outnumbered, outgunned, and half the people they pull over want to kill them and have the guns to do it. So what if they get aggressive. I give them a lot of leeway in that job. They have the right to flip out sometimes and they couldn't have picked a better punching bag. Plus, Jackass King eluded them and was drunk and on PCP, if I remember correctly. In my book, elude the police and lead them on a chase, endangering innocent people in the process, and you tear up the card that entitles you to civil rights. I think leading cops on a chase ought to be a felony and have a minimum penalty of a lifelong revocation of driver's license and mandatory jail time of 2 years minimum. Him, and people like him, are the reason excessive force exists. He was and is a serial criminal who would have done us all a favor if he had died in one of his car accidents. More trash off the streets.

I still love you though.:wavey: :lol:

[sparky]

Wasn't there a part no one saw on the tape where he was wacked out of his gourd on PCP and was very violent? I read that. And PCP gives you superhuman strength, apparently.

Yup. And as far as I am concerned, if you not only resist arrest, but attempt to physically harm a police officer, you are lucky to escape with your life. It is more than you deserve.

They beat him until he stopped moving and until they weren't pissed off anymore. If I were a police officer and someone was aggressive towards me and was wacked out on drugs, I'd beat the hell out of them too. And probably get fired. The idiots out there who are criminals show these guys and gals NO respect and don't fear them enough. They ought to fear them. If I get pulled over, and I have, I treat those people like kings. IMO, they are. It is Sir this and Sir that. They risk their lives every day and deserve to be treated well.

[dissention]

In my book, elude the police and lead them on a chase, endangering innocent people in the process, and you tear up the card that entitles you to civil rights.

We'll have to disagree on that one. And I give no cop, someone whose job it is to uphold the law, any leeway when it comes to breaking it.

I still love you though.:wavey: :lol:

And I love you, but I'm glad you aren't a cop. :laugh: :p

[dissention]

And probably get fired.

And rightfully so.

[sparky]

We'll have to disagree on that one. And I give no cop, someone whose job it is to uphold the law, any leeway when it comes to breaking it.



Breaking the law aside, you have GOT to be kidding me. At least half a dozen times in the last year people have led officers on chases in Los Angeles. Sometimes down the freeway, going the wrong way in rush hour. They are risking the lives of hundreds of people for nothing. To get on the news !
If I were in charge of the police, once the person is apprehended...shoot to kill. Speed up the process. You are dealing with an animal who is a hazard to civilized society. Why waste the time and money on them ? They clearly place no value on human life, their own the lives of others.

Yours truly,

Sparky. Fascist to all criminals. :xoxo:

P.S. I would never be a cop. It doesn't pay enough.:laugh:

[amber]

We'll have to disagree on that one. And I give no cop, someone whose job it is to uphold the law, any leeway when it comes to breaking it.


Yeah, i subscribe to only "necessary force" as well. Just because someone is a super criminal, doesn't give the police officers the right to beat the holy f*ck out of him after he is already subdued. The point of arresting someone is to be able to subdue them to put them in jail, not to kill them.
Interestingly, a large portion of cops are wife beaters/insane bullies/weird power tripper stalkers/rapists etc. No accident.

Condoning cops beating the sh*t out of someone beyond necessary force, to me, is kind of like believing in the death penalty, logic wise, only a bit worse.

[dissention]

Breaking the law aside, you have GOT to be kidding me. At least half a dozen times in the last year people have led officers on chases in Los Angeles. Sometimes down the freeway, going the wrong way in rush hour. They are risking the lives of hundreds of people for nothing. To get on the news !

That still doesn't qualify them to have their civil rights stripped away. To do so would rob our "justice system" of the little justice it still doles out, and it perturbs me greatly that you think police officers themselves should be the ones to decide what to do with such criminals once they get them in their grasps. No crime invites police brutality or the abuse of their power as professionals who are there to uphold the law, not use the law at their discretion. Once we have goons riding around with pistols, batons, and shotguns who will punish criminals as they see fit, we stop having a police force and instead have a militia on the government payroll. Not to mention it robs the so-called criminals of due process, thereby wreaking havoc on the very definition of American justice and rendering it useless.

If I were in charge of the police, once the person is apprehended...shoot to kill. Speed up the process. You are dealing with an animal who is a hazard to civilized society. Why waste the time and money on them ? They clearly place no value on human life, their own the lives of others.

And it isn't animalistic for police officers to kill them as soon as they're apprehended? Give me a ****ing break, man. That's sick. We'd be wading in even scarier, more fascist waters than we are now.

Yours truly,

Sparky. Fascist to all criminals. :xoxo:

Ain't that the truth, love. :laugh:

P.S. I would never be a cop. It doesn't pay enough.:laugh:

I'd move out of any state that would let you become a cop! :xoxo:

[dissention]

Yeah, i subscribe to only "necessary force" as well. Just because someone is a super criminal, doesn't give the police officers the right to beat the holy f*ck out of him after he is already subdued. The point of arresting someone is to be able to subdue them to put them in jail, not to kill them.

I truly get the heebie jeebies thinking about cops and all of the injustice they've carried out over the years. The police system is as corrupt as our political system.

Interestingly, a large portion of cops are wife beaters/insane bullies/weird power tripper stalkers/rapists etc. No accident.

Ha. I've never seen any numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Condoning cops beating the sh*t out of someone beyond necessary force, to me, is kind of like believing in the death penalty, logic wise, only a bit worse.

Absolutely.

[sparky]

That still doesn't qualify them to have their civil rights stripped away.To do so would rob our "justice system" of the little justice it still doles out, and it perturbs me greatly that you think police officers themselves should be the ones to decide what to do with such criminals once they get them in their grasps.

Ah, maybe not. Whatever :lol: Now we are getting into philosophy and a slippery slope discussion.

No crime invites police brutality or the abuse of their power as professionals who are there to uphold the law, not use the law at their discretion. Once we have goons riding around with pistols, batons, and shotguns who will punish criminals as they see fit, we stop having a police force and instead have a militia on the government payroll.

Quite true. And I submit, in some areas of the country, perhaps the streets are so brutal that it justifies such a system.


Not to mention it robs the so-called criminals of due process, thereby wreaking havoc on the very definition of American justice and rendering it useless.

I guess so. I still think certain crimes give cops some grey area to work with. Like eluding them. Like beating up women. Abusing kids. If they catch someone in one of these acts and have witnessed it, I have no problem if they kick a little ass. None whatsoever. I just hope no cameras are around.



And it isn't animalistic for police officers to kill them as soon as they're apprehended? Give me a ****ing break, man. That's sick. We'd be wading in even scarier, more fascist waters than we are now.

Technically, yes. If you want to get into a law theory discussion, yes. However, if once a car chase suspect who went on a 200 mile chase, endangering lives all the way, were fatally shot in the head by a citizen or a cop at the end...and they said, "Ooops, sorry, didn't mean to pull the trigger" I would be hard pressed to not throw a party for the gun holder at my home.

I'd move out of any state that would let you become a cop! :xoxo:

Not if I saved your ass you wouldn't ! :wavey:

[amber]

I understand your point, Sparks, but violence breeds more violence. And fascism breeds fascism. ie, Police can't just do what they want. If the police could do what they want, then it should conversely be legal for regular people to beat the **** out of each other and do whatever they want. Which it's not. Police are supposed to uphold peace and enforce laws and protect people, not practice random vigilantism. And that isn't "slippery slope", it's just a logical conclusion.

[dissention]

Ah, maybe not. Whatever :lol: Now we are getting into philosophy and a slippery slope discussion.

I can't sleep, so why not? :laugh:

I guess so. I still think certain crimes give cops some grey area to work with. Like eluding them. Like beating up women. Abusing kids. If they catch someone in one of these acts and have witnessed it, I have no problem if they kick a little ass. None whatsoever. I just hope no cameras are around.

To me, that makes them no better than the scum they're supposed to be arresting. It's not their place in inflict punishment on those people, it's the job of the courts and the citizens. I mean, the very definition of "grey area" varies from person to person, so just imagine the results of officers being instructed that they had some "grey area" to work with that afforded them leeway in terms of their treatment of suspects. There's no room for it. Their jobs do not afford them such luxuries.

Technically, yes. If you want to get into a law theory discussion, yes. However, if once a car chase suspect who went on a 200 mile chase, endangering lives all the way, were fatally shot in the head by a citizen or a cop at the end...and they said, "Ooops, sorry, didn't mean to pull the trigger" I would be hard pressed to not throw a party for the gun holder at my home.

Whereas I would be calling the police department to voice my utter digust and disdain for the officer(s) at hand.

Not if I saved your ass you wouldn't ! :wavey:

I can think of better things you could do to my ass, sweets. :woohoo:

[sparky]

To me, that makes them no better than the scum they're supposed to be arresting. It's not their place in inflict punishment on those people, it's the job of the courts and the citizens. I mean, the very definition of "grey area" varies from person to person, so just imagine the results of officers being instructed that they had some "grey area" to work with that afforded them leeway in terms of their treatment of suspects. There's no room for it. Their jobs do not afford them such luxuries.

Mmm...maybe not. It still makes me feel good when they do it.



Whereas I would be calling the police department to voice my utter digust and disdain for the officer(s) at hand.

I'd up my contribution to the retirement fund.



I can think of better things you could do to my ass, sweets. :woohoo:

You have no IDEA. You know, I have a pair of handcuffs still in the box, never used. Wanna play criminal for me ?:xoxo:

I promise I won't hurt you.

[Moony]

Yeah, i subscribe to only "necessary force" as well. Just because someone is a super criminal, doesn't give the police officers the right to beat the holy f*ck out of him after he is already subdued. The point of arresting someone is to be able to subdue them to put them in jail, not to kill them.
Interestingly, a large portion of cops are wife beaters/insane bullies/weird power tripper stalkers/rapists etc. No accident.

Condoning cops beating the sh*t out of someone beyond necessary force, to me, is kind of like believing in the death penalty, logic wise, only a bit worse.
Bravo. I completely agree.

[dissention]

Mmm...maybe not. It still makes me feel good when they do it.

Ah, you're no fun. You're wearing down too easily. Where's Jason? :lol:

I'd up my contribution to the retirement fund.

I can't top that one, you bastard. *grumbles*

You have no IDEA. You know, I have a pair of handcuffs still in the box, never used. Wanna play criminal for me ?:xoxo:

I promise I won't hurt you.

Hurting me is half the fun. I'll be your own Rodney King, except I won't put up a fight. :xoxo:

[sparky]

I understand your point, Sparks, but violence breeds more violence. And fascism breeds fascism. ie, Police can't just do what they want.

Oh, I SUPPOSE. But I still think it's cool when someone resists arrest and a cop beats the **** out of them. I don't think they should have no rules. But if someone attacks them and resists arrest and is violent towards them...I think whatever the person gets, they asked for.



If the police could do what they want, then it should conversely be legal for regular people to beat the **** out of each other and do whatever they want.

Nah, I don't believe that reverse argument. I wasn't clear before. I am not being completely serious. I am being emotional. LOL. I think what I said above.



Police are supposed to uphold peace and enforce laws and protect people, not practice random vigilantism.

Agreed. But if someone resists, I support the right for the cops to beat them until they are done...re: Jackass Career Criminal Rodney King.

[sparky]

Hurting me is half the fun. I'll be your own Rodney King, except I won't put up a fight. :xoxo:

Now you are getting me excited. :xoxo:

I'd just do things that made you grunt and moan. You get a safe word. Have no fear. :blob1:

[dissention]

Now you are getting me excited. :xoxo:

Are you wearing the red hat? :angel:

I'd just do things that made you grunt and moan. You get a safe word. Have no fear. :blob1:

I'd probably forget the bloody word amidst all the excitement.

[amber]

Oh, I SUPPOSE. But I still think it's cool when someone resists arrest and a cop beats the **** out of them. I don't think they should have no rules. But if someone attacks them and resists arrest and is violent towards them...I think whatever the person gets, they asked for.





Nah, I don't believe that reverse argument. I wasn't clear before. I am not being completely serious. I am being emotional. LOL. I think what I said above.





Agreed. But if someone resists, I support the right for the cops to beat them until they are done...re: Jackass Career Criminal Rodney King.


Just so we're clear here, you think:
A) Police should have special "beyond necessary force" rights that other citizens don't have, so that they can beat the **** out of someone they think is a criminal. (remember that totally innocent guy that was just standing there in NY, and cops beat the **** out of him?)
B) You don't think that this could lead to widespread racist and other abuse by cops. You know there are cops that make people "do things" just because they have cop authority, right?
okay, that's it.:laugh:

Love ya anyways, and your sick emotional approval of cops beating people. :laugh:
To be fair to you, I have the same emotional response about the death penalty, but I overrode my emotions with logic on that one. Barely.

[sparky]

Just so we're clear here, you think:
A) Police should have special "beyond necessary force" rights that other citizens don't have, so that they can beat the **** out of someone they think is a criminal. (remember that totally innocent guy that was just standing there in NY, and cops beat the **** out of him?)


No. But if they have witnessed them doing something like leading them on a chase, beating the hell out their wife, busting their kids' heads open..I don't blame them for popping a few punches in if the suspect gives them some guff.


B) You don't think that this could lead to widespread racist and other abuse by cops. You know there are cops that make people "do things" just because they have cop authority, right?

Yeah. I think it is a drop in the bucket, though. And I think since we haven't been cops, our opinions are pretty useless in the argument.


Love ya anyways, and your sick emotional approval of cops beating people. :laugh:


I only approve them beating people that deserve it. Again, something they have witnessed, or if the suspect threatens or attacks them, or resists arrest.

[sparky]

Are you wearing the red hat? :angel:

I can if ya want me to.



I'd probably forget the bloody word amidst all the excitement.

I'd remind you if I sensed you needed reminding.:xoxo:

[GODDESS6]

The AP just released the tape in it's entirety and Newsnight on CNN covered it for more than half an hour earlier. Did anyone happen to catch it? The new footage shows one of the police officers punching the man twice in the face while he's on the ground (with one officer on top of him, another holding him in a headlock, and another holding his feet), then it shows another officer kicking him in the head.

The tape also disproves the defense's assertion that his face was smashed in by falling on the ground. In reality, his head did not hit the ground; an officer had him in a headlock with stopped that from happening. Also, many of the injuries were on the right side of his face, but he fell on his left side.
i could only watch it once, it sicken me so much~

[gldstwmn]

I think these oficers will be convicted if they do not take a plea. That video screams bad acts and ever expert I head commeming on the beatings said the poilice violate the code like when they hit the heads and bak of the next. The only viable defense the poilce have is that the man resisted arrest, which the film somewhat demonstrates as he is fighting not to be cuffed. I think the black jury in Orleans Parish will have no problem convicting these cops if for nothing else, they have probabkly been harrassed by the police more than one time in the past.

His lawyer maintains they never told him he was under arrest.:shrug:

[gldstwmn]

I'd convict based on that sleazy lawyer alone. :laugh:

I'd like to see the doughboy cop that held the news producer backward over the car hood go down.:laugh:

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I'd like to see the doughboy cop that held the news producer backward over the car hood go down.:laugh:

He's actually one of the three officers being charged. :woohoo:

I'd like to know why the federal agents aren't being charged, though.

[dissention]

His lawyer maintains they never told him he was under arrest.:shrug:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/13/asb.01.html

COOPER: Mr. Gaut, how about you? Anything new that you saw?

WILLIAM GAUT, POLICE MISCONDUCT EXPERT: Yeah. This is my first view of the entire tape. I see lots of things there. Just a second ago, after the punches were delivered, his left arm pretty obviously is pulled down and pulled behind his back by one officer there. Reminds me of an old saying we had in the South, you could put lipstick on a pig. In the end, it's still a pig.

BROWN: And the significance of that the way you see it, I see his arm coming back also is at that point, at that point they had him under control?

GAUT: It's hard to tell from the video whether he's actually under control at that point. But his arm ...

BROWN: I'm sorry. That's the same point. Now, they're starting to punch him again. But that's the same point it seemed to me he was less than completely compliant. As a citizen, do I have a responsibility here to be absolutely compliant or take the consequences of not -- of not being so?

GAUT: No. That's the problem incidents like this. Is that too many times police officers don't have a clear understanding of exactly what their powers are or, more particularly, what their limitations are, as well as citizens not fully understanding what they can and can't do, in terms of resisting orders.

I heard one attorney -- I heard one attorney earlier say something about you can't resist arrest until you're actually placed under arrest. And he's exactly correct. Someone who is not placed under arrest, never told or given a lawful command, it's pretty hard for him to resist.

The rest of the transcript is priceless; that defense lawyer had his ass handed to him.

[SuzeQuze]

Anderson was on Oprah the other day and she told him "You're the man" because he did the best reporting ever in New Orleans. I was home on vacation and got to see the show. She is a fan. She asked him what he thought was important in a reporter, he said you have to put your heart into it. This is why we love him.

I know that wasn't directly related to the above but I thought I would share.

[strandinthewind]

Ahhhh - the old all cops are pigs vs. the criminals deserve no mercy argument. Here's the deal, cops have one of the toughest jobs in the world and are paid shiitte for it. Moreover, because of the bad apples, almost all cops are treated with fear. I mean they can beat the living shiitte out of you and if you try to defend yourself, they can beat you more. Kind of scary isn't it. On the other hand, who amongst us would like to walk into Watts ay noght and not be a bad mother fu**er ready to kill or be killed. Thus, the complexity of being a cop.

I think in the end, most cops I have experienced have an ego power trip going on and in many ways I cannot say I blame them.

[dissention]

Anderson was on Oprah the other day and she told him "You're the man" because he did the best reporting ever in New Orleans. I was home on vacation and got to see the show. She is a fan. She asked him what he thought was important in a reporter, he said you have to put your heart into it. This is why we love him.

I know that wasn't directly related to the above but I thought I would share.

She was a total fan, fawning all over him. :laugh:

On a related note, CNN recently posted all of his articles that he writes each month for Details Magazine. They? Are hilarious. Read them now.

[bikerchic]

This happens all the time, its just not caught on tape. I thought the police were suppose to make us feel safe. More and more I grow more fearful of the police.:distress:

[SuzeQuze]

She was a total fan, fawning all over him. :laugh:

On a related note, CNN recently posted all of his articles that he writes each month for Details Magazine. They? Are hilarious. Read them now.

Damn, but I've gotta do some work right now! Thanks for the tip. :xoxo:

[dissention]

Damn, but I've gotta do some work right now! Thanks for the tip. :xoxo:

Here are some of my favorite quotes:

"Going gray is like ejaculation. You know it can happen prematurely, but when it actually does, it's a total shock."

"I know this is the point where I'm supposed to say that it was nice just to be able to raise money for charity, and while that is certainly true, it was also great to win. Shallow, I know, but there it is. Coming down off the "Jeopardy!" high is hard. For days afterward I'd find myself telling random strangers I'd won "Jeopardy!" "Why don't you print it on your business card?" one friend joked, but the truth is I'd already considered it."

and

"Doctors will tell you that nibbling nails is a sign of anxiety and insecurity, a nasty habit that can lead to infection. I'm sure they're right. There are certainly plenty of less painful ways to deal with stress, but really, how many times a day can you masturbate?"

I especially identified with the nail-biting article because I bite my nails incessantly. It's a disgusting habit, but I can't help it.

[SuzeQuze]

...

"Doctors will tell you that nibbling nails is a sign of anxiety and insecurity, a nasty habit that can lead to infection. I'm sure they're right. There are certainly plenty of less painful ways to deal with stress, but really, how many times a day can you masturbate?"

I especially identified with the nail-biting article because I bite my nails incessantly. It's a disgusting habit, but I can't help it.

He's too much! That is one habit I don't have but my nails are too hard. I couldn't bite them if I wanted to. I would never peg you as a nail biter though because you are so concerned with cleanliness. No wonder you won't shake anyone's hands! :laugh:

Oprah really was a fan. She really said he did "the best reporting ever" which might be laying it on a bit thick. Although I wouldn't mind laying something thick on... oh nevermind. :lol:

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He's too much! That is one habit I don't have but my nails are too hard. I couldn't bite them if I wanted to. I would never peg you as a nail biter though because you are so concerned with cleanliness. No wonder you won't shake anyone's hands! :laugh:

I am a huge nail-biter. I've tried to stop and I can't. I'm incapable of stopping.

Oprah really was a fan. She really said he did "the best reporting ever" which might be laying it on a bit thick. Although I wouldn't mind laying something thick on... oh nevermind. :lol:

:laugh:

Oprah is such a kiss-ass. Her show only exists for her to kiss the asses of her celebrity friends at this point. Though I wasn't really disagreeing with her about Andy. :laugh:

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I am a huge nail-biter. I've tried to stop and I can't. I'm incapable of stopping.



:laugh:

Oprah is such a kiss-ass. Her show only exists for her to kiss the asses of her celebrity friends at this point. Though I wasn't really disagreeing with her about Andy. :laugh:
I bet you'd stop if you started smoking. :) Just trying to help. :laugh: :xoxo:

yeah, oprah makes me sick sometimes.

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Anderson was on Oprah the other day and she told him "You're the man" because he did the best reporting ever in New Orleans. I was home on vacation and got to see the show. She is a fan. She asked him what he thought was important in a reporter, he said you have to put your heart into it. This is why we love him.

I know that wasn't directly related to the above but I thought I would share.

FYI, he's going to be on "Oprah After the Show" this weekend. I've never watched it before, but it's on Oxygen Sunday at 2pm. I don't know if I can stand another half hour of that broad, though.

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FYI, he's going to be on "Oprah After the Show" this weekend. I've never watched it before, but it's on Oxygen Sunday at 2pm. I don't know if I can stand another half hour of that broad, though.

:lol: I <3 Oprah! I agree she is sickening with the celebrities though, everyone is fabulous just because they're famous. :rolleyes:

You can also usually see the after the show clips on her Website. I don't get Oxygen. I bet you money you can and will stand her to get a glimpse of your hottie. :nod: :lol:

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:lol: I <3 Oprah! I agree she is sickening with the celebrities though, everyone is fabulous just because they're famous. :rolleyes:

I loved her way back when, in the days when she did quality shows. Ever since she was sued over that meat, it's all been downhill. :o

She does pick some darn good books, though.

You can also usually see the after the show clips on her Website. I don't get Oxygen. I bet you money you can and will stand her to get a glimpse of your hottie. :nod: :lol:

Who am I kidding? I already have the timer on my VCR ready to record, sweets.

You're right, though, I just found a clip: http://www2.oprah.com/tows/after/tows_after_landing.jhtml

He looks so phuckable in it. :shocked:

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I loved her way back when, in the days when she did quality shows. Ever since she was sued over that meat, it's all been downhill. :o

She does pick some darn good books, though.

Some of her topics are good but she does do a lot of fluff like makeover shows and such.

Her latest book pick looks really interesting. I have read lots of her picks but not for a while, not since she resurrected the club. But the current one is about pulling out of addiction. Are you reading it?

Right now I'm reading Anne Rice's "The Witching Hour" as an homage to NOLA. I love that book but I only read it once about 15 years ago. So long ago that it is just about like reading it for the first time! The years do disappear.


Who am I kidding? I already have the timer on my VCR ready to record, sweets.

You're right, though, I just found a clip: http://www2.oprah.com/tows/after/tows_after_landing.jhtml

He looks so phuckable in it. :shocked:

:sigh: You've become so predictable. :lol: Just in this one area! I won't be able to see the clip since I am on dial up and will claw my eyes out before the thing loads - if it ever does.

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Some of her topics are good but she does do a lot of fluff like makeover shows and such.

Her latest book pick looks really interesting. I have read lots of her picks but not for a while, not since she resurrected the club. But the current one is about pulling out of addiction. Are you reading it?

Is it "A Million Little Pieces"? I picked that one up last week and will probably start it this weekend. :nod: I've heard that it's really good. When her book club first started, she chose a book called "She's Come Undone" by Wally Lamb that was fantastic. Did you ever read it? What a great book. I also loved the Jane Hamilton books she chose ("A Map of the World" and "The Book of Ruth"). She's had some duds, though; I loathed "Drowning Ruth." What a turkey.

Right now I'm reading Anne Rice's "The Witching Hour" as an homage to NOLA. I love that book but I only read it once about 15 years ago. So long ago that it is just about like reading it for the first time! The years do disappear.

I think I've read half of it. :laugh: My grandmother was a big Anne Rice fan (along with Stephen King), so I've read a few of her books, but never finished that one for some reason. I remember it being absolutely huge. Like, doorstop huge.

:sigh: You've become so predictable. :lol: Just in this one area! I won't be able to see the clip since I am on dial up and will claw my eyes out before the thing loads - if it ever does.

To tide you over, some AndersonPic!Spamming courtesy of yours truly:

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Is it "A Million Little Pieces"? I picked that one up last week and will probably start it this weekend. :nod: I've heard that it's really good. When her book club first started, she chose a book called "She's Come Undone" by Wally Lamb that was fantastic. Did you ever read it? What a great book. I also loved the Jane Hamilton books she chose ("A Map of the World" and "The Book of Ruth"). She's had some duds, though; I loathed "Drowning Ruth." What a turkey.

Yes, that is the book. I guess it is supposed to be really moving. Let me know how it is.

Yes! I've "A Map..." and "She's...". I really liked She's Come Undone a lot. That was a great read and realistic although heart warming at once. I really identified with that character since I was such a misfit as a kid! Plus a romantic pining for the unattainable. :laugh:

Map of the World was so freaking depressing I barely made it through it.

I think I've read half of it. :laugh: My grandmother was a big Anne Rice fan (along with Stephen King), so I've read a few of her books, but never finished that one for some reason. I remember it being absolutely huge. Like, doorstop huge.

It is huge, it is like Stephen King's "The Stand" huge, about a thousand pages. I'm halfway through. I was glad to have it while stuck in FL waiting for Logan to get their radar problem fixed. :rolleyes:

To tide you over, some AndersonPic!Spamming courtesy of yours truly:

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:) Oh you spoil me!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

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This is what you get when you take what isn't yours Joshy....haha! :lol: :)

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Yes, that is the book. I guess it is supposed to be really moving. Let me know how it is.

Will do. :woohoo:

Yes! I've "A Map..." and "She's...". I really liked She's Come Undone a lot. That was a great read and realistic although heart warming at once. I really identified with that character since I was such a misfit as a kid! Plus a romantic pining for the unattainable. :laugh:

"She's Come Undone" was so freaking good, I think I read it in two days. Dolores and her Mallomar's had me in stitches one minute and repulsed the next. Brilliant. It'll be a classic.

Map of the World was so freaking depressing I barely made it through it.

Oh, but it was so gorgeous to read. She's a truly gifted writer. Definitely depressing as all get out, but Hamilton's writing is poetic. Did you see the movie? I twasn't as good as I thought it could have been, but Sigourney Weaver and Julianne Moore were GREAT in it.

It is huge, it is like Stephen King's "The Stand" huge, about a thousand pages. I'm halfway through. I was glad to have it while stuck in FL waiting for Logan to get their radar problem fixed. :rolleyes:

:laugh:

I read "It" and came to the conclusion that King was a verbose hack after I finished it. He needs a good editor so badly that I spit in anger whenever I read anything by him. But he can write good fluff on occasion. Loved "The Tommyknockers," "Rose Madder," and "Dolores Claiborne." I think that's all I liked, though. :laugh:

:) Oh you spoil me!

Naturally. :xoxo: Hopefully you can get the vid to work.

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This is what you get when you take what isn't yours Joshy....haha! :lol: :)

Because I hotlinked? :laugh: I can't see what it says because the pic already loaded and saved itself on my temporary internet files. What does it say?

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Because I hotlinked? :laugh: I can't see what it says because the pic already loaded and saved itself on my temporary internet files. What does it say?

It is blank...It will not load. I was joking around with you...saying THAT is what happens whenever you hotlink!

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"She's Come Undone" was so freaking good, I think I read it in two days. Dolores and her Mallomar's had me in stitches one minute and repulsed the next. Brilliant. It'll be a classic.

I read this quickly as well. Forgot about the Mallomars!

Oh, but it was so gorgeous to read. She's a truly gifted writer. Definitely depressing as all get out, but Hamilton's writing is poetic. Did you see the movie? I twasn't as good as I thought it could have been, but Sigourney Weaver and Julianne Moore were GREAT in it.

The book was so depressing I really couldn't bring myself to watch the movie.


I read "It" and came to the conclusion that King was a verbose hack after I finished it. He needs a good editor so badly that I spit in anger whenever I read anything by him. But he can write good fluff on occasion. Loved "The Tommyknockers," "Rose Madder," and "Dolores Claiborne." I think that's all I liked, though. :laugh:

I could not get through "It", it lacked cohesion for me and it was just too out there. I did like "The Stand". "The Body" is the short story the movie Stand By Me was based on and that story is brilliant. Read it if you haven't. I read it as a teen and it stayed with me for months, it was some powerful stuff. I really like the movie "Dolores Claiborne" and the book too. That movie was perfectly cast. I think "Pet Sematary" may have been the last book of his I read. I just grew tired of his writing.

Naturally. :xoxo: Hopefully you can get the vid to work.

I'll check it out at work on Mon. Shhh, don't tell the boss. ;)

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The book was so depressing I really couldn't bring myself to watch the movie.

If it's ever on TV, watch it, if only for the performances. :nod: The first scene between Weaver and Moore after Moore's son drowns is brilliantly acted.

I could not get through "It", it lacked cohesion for me and it was just too out there. I did like "The Stand". "The Body" is the short story the movie Stand By Me was based on and that story is brilliant. Read it if you haven't. I read it as a teen and it stayed with me for months, it was some powerful stuff. I really like the movie "Dolores Claiborne" and the book too. That movie was perfectly cast. I think "Pet Sematary" may have been the last book of his I read. I just grew tired of his writing.

"It" was a trip. I stopped reading it after the kiddie gangbang, I thought it was just absurd and devoid of any point. I finished it later on, but thought the ending was a huge letdown after reading over a thousand pages of drivel.

I have read "The Body" and really liked it, but there was another story in that collection called "Apt Pupil" that disturbed me for days. I don't know how to describe it; it truly gave me the willies. It was about a teen boy who discovers that his neighbor was a Nazi war criminal, and he blackmails the man into telling him all of the grisly details. The kid then starts living out his murderous tendencies by murdering homeless men. What a mind**** that was.

I'll check it out at work on Mon. Shhh, don't tell the boss. ;)

Your secret's safe with moi. ;)

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King's early work was fab. - The Shining is a great example of that. The Stand is as well. I like his stuff, but like everyone else, when you release too much of it, some pales in comparison a la Kujo - OY!

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King's early work was fab. - The Shining is a great example of that. The Stand is as well. I like his stuff, but like everyone else, when you release too much of it, some pales in comparison a la Kujo - OY!

See, I thought most of his early stuff was too unpolished and amateurish. It was only after he laid off the drugs and paid attention to what he was writing that I think he wrote some good stuff.

Cujo is ridiculously depressing. No wonder they changed the ending for the movie. :laugh:

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See, I thought most of his early stuff was too unpolished and amateurish. It was only after he laid off the drugs and paid attention to what he was writing that I think he wrote some good stuff.

Cujo is ridiculously depressing. No wonder they changed the ending for the movie. :laugh:

Here is his Bibliography (stars next to the ones I liked and thought were good)

1974 Carrie **
1975 'Salem's Lot ** scary scary
1977 Rage (as Richard Bachman)
1977 The Shining ** his most brilliant IMO and made glorious by Kubrick
1978 Night Shift (stories) **
1978 The Stand **
1979 The Dead Zone **
1979 The Long Walk (as Richard Bachman)
1980 Firestarter
1981 Cujo
1981 Danse Macabre (nonfiction about horror)
1981 Road Work (as Richard Bachman)
1982 Creepshow (comic book, illustrated by Bernie Wrightson)
1982 The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger
1982 Different Seasons (novellas)
1982 The Running Man (as Richard Bachman)
1983 Christine
1983 Pet Sematary **
1983 Cycle of the Werewolf (illustrated by Bernie Wrightson)
1984 The Talisman (written with Peter Straub)
1984 Thinner (as Richard Bachman)
1985 Skeleton Crew (stories)
1985 The Bachman Books (novel collection)
1986 It
1987 The Eyes of the Dragon
1987 Misery **
1987 The Dark Tower II: The Drawing of the Three
1988 The Tommyknockers **
1988 Nightmares in the Sky (gargoyle photo book with text by King; photos by f-stop fitzgerald)
1989 The Dark Half
1989 Dolan's Cadillac (limited edition)
1989 My Pretty Pony (limited edition)
1990 The Stand: The Complete & Uncut Edition **
1990 Four Past Midnight (stories)
1991 Needful Things ** but a little silly
1991 The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands
1992 Gerald's Game
1993 Dolores Claiborne ** greatness made glorious by Bates - a high ridin' bitch
1993 Nightmares & Dreamscapes (stories)
1994 Insomnia
1995 Rose Madder
1995 Umney's Last Case
1996 The Green Mile (originally published as a monthly serial consisting of six parts: The Two Dead Girls, The Mouse on the Mile, Coffey's Hands, The Bad Death of Eduard Delacroix, Night Journey, and Coffey on the Mile) **
1996 Desperation
1996 The Regulators (as Richard Bachman)
1997 Six Stories (stories)
1997 The Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass
1998 Bag of Bones **
1999 Storm of the Century **
1999 The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon
1999 The New Lieutenant's Rap (limited edition)
1999 Hearts in Atlantis **
1999 Blood and Smoke (audio book)
2000 Riding the Bullet (electronically published novella)
2000 The Plant (electronically published) Stephen King (Publishing of 'The Plant')
2000 Secret Windows
2000 On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft (nonfiction and autobiography)
2001 Dreamcatcher ** awful movie though
2001 Black House (sequel to The Talisman; written with Peter Straub)
2002 From a Buick 8
2002 Everything's Eventual: 14 Dark Tales (stories)
2003 The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger (revised version)
2003 The Dark Tower V: Wolves of the Calla
2004 The Dark Tower VI: Song of Susannah
2004 The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower
2004 Faithful: Two Diehard Boston Red Sox Fans Chronicle the Historic 2004 Season
2005 The Colorado Kid, published in October by Hard Case Crime
2006 Cell, to be released in February
2006 Lisey's Story, to be released in November
Short fiction by Stephen King

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_king#Bibliography

anyway - my $0.02 :cool:

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Out of all of those, the only ones I liked were:

Carrie (entertaining, if a bit too crudely written)
Different Seasons
Misery
The Tommyknockers
Gerald's Game (even if it was disgusting tripe)
Rose Madder
Desperation
Hearts In Atlantis

I suppose I'm not much of a King fan. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Out of all of those, the only ones I liked were:

Carrie (entertaining, if a bit too crudely written)
Different Seasons
Misery
The Tommyknockers
Gerald's Game (even if it was disgusting tripe)
Rose Madder
Desperation
Hearts In Atlantis

I suppose I'm not much of a King fan. :laugh:

Jis stuff was okay - but none of it was the great American novel, yet it was not as formulaic (sp.?) as say Frisham or Rice in her later works - though her earlier ones like The Witching Hour were spellbinding.

To his credit, SK moved in and out of horror and drama with ease - a la The Shining and Delores C.

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You can also usually see the after the show clips on her Website. I don't get Oxygen. I bet you money you can and will stand her to get a glimpse of your hottie. :nod: :lol:

I'm watching it now (I set my VCR for it and for Letterman last night because he was on it :laugh: ) and the two women who got to ask questions are making so little sense that I'm falling out of my chair as I watch it. This **** is hysterical. And Oprah is talking about how she had throw out her boots after walking through the Superdome in an attempt to compare it to his stories about being in Rwanda. Good cripes, she's insane.