View Full Version : Oh, I am so hated here on the Ledge...
estranged4life
10-13-2005, 03:13 PM
according to the rose.troll, I think I'm gonna cry...Y'all hate me...Boo-frikkedy-hoo!!!
Bwahahaha!!!! Man that felt great! Could care less what ANYONE thinks of me
Moony
10-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Bwahahaha!!!! Man that felt great! Could care less what ANYONE thinks of me
That's the spirit.
Although I must say your little GIF is a bit disturbing :laugh:
Johnny Stew
10-13-2005, 03:22 PM
You're hated? That's a laugh and a half!
You're about the most loved guy in the entire Mac fan community! :xoxo:
estranged4life
10-13-2005, 03:34 PM
You're hated? That's a laugh and a half!
You're about the most loved guy in the entire Mac fan community! :xoxo:
sarcastic there Mr.Librarian!
That rose.troll is funny, it's post on Seven Wonders bring a lil' tear to my eyes
Oh I am ever so emotional...Boo-frikkedy-doo!!!
Brian "A Glutton who needs Weight Watchers" j.
Johnny Stew
10-13-2005, 03:38 PM
I was being sarcastic there Mr.Librarian!I totally got that, bud... I just thought it was laughable that someone ELSE would think or say that! :laugh:
But then I always say, "consider the source."
estranged4life
10-13-2005, 04:40 PM
Although I must say your little GIF is a bit disturbing :laugh:
I have plenty of GIF's that are rather XXX and there's a bunch of Disney characters doin' rather un-Dis-knee like things.
I tend to think the Bear looks rather happy :lol:
DavidMn
10-13-2005, 05:00 PM
Go to hell and never come back!!! hornets suck too BTW!!:wavey: ;)
estranged4life
10-13-2005, 06:16 PM
hornets suck too BTW!!:wavey: ;)
ALCS umpires (ie-Last night's travesty ending of a game!)
wondergirl9847
10-13-2005, 06:23 PM
Cat's a Beast and I'm Trash. We have a morning radio talk show. Come on our show and talk about how your feelings were hurt by Rose. :laugh:
estranged4life
10-13-2005, 06:30 PM
Cat's a Beast and I'm Trash. We have a morning radio talk show. Come on our show and talk about how your feelings were hurt by Rose. :laugh:
The Trash, The Beast & the Glutton sinner show...Staring us!!!
GODDESS6
10-13-2005, 08:01 PM
brian your friggin' sig is crackin' me up!!!:lol: :laugh: :lol: :nod: ~
catinthedark
10-13-2005, 10:02 PM
The Trash, The Beast & the Glutton sinner show...Staring us!!!
My claws are out and ready to go.... Ree-ow!!
dissention
10-13-2005, 10:05 PM
Ahh, don't forget me. I was branded a "snake" and a "rat." :p
Johnny Stew
10-13-2005, 10:07 PM
Ahh, don't forget me. I was branded a "snake" and a "rat." :pBy who? Susan Hawk? :laugh:
dissention
10-13-2005, 10:11 PM
By who? Susan Hawk? :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes, I stole her tapioca.
Johnny Stew
10-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Yes, I stole her tapioca.Doggonit, diss... now I'm hungry for tapioca! Grrr.
Did you see MacMan's "Hung Up" thread? A REAL high-quality version of the song had finally leaked.
It's actually an edit of the radio edit (yes, you read that correctly), but, still, it's not a tinny ringtone version or a choppy mp3 of pieced-together clips. :D
dissention
10-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Doggonit, diss... now I'm hungry for tapioca! Grrr.
Did you see MacMan's "Hung Up" thread? A REAL high-quality version of the song had finally leaked.
It's actually an edit of the radio edit (yes, you read that correctly), but, still, it's not a tinny ringtone version or a choppy mp3 of pieced-together clips. :D
A friend sent it to me the other day, I really like it. :nod: I wasn't sure at first, but now I love it. VERY catchy.
Brwn_eyes0511
10-13-2005, 11:02 PM
A friend sent it to me the other day, I really like it. :nod: I wasn't sure at first, but now I love it. VERY catchy.
If it didn't have the "hook" from the Abba song...then it would be nothing!
Yes, we hate you, that's why you're still here and rose.manure isn't:)
Actually, I love her posts, I'd give her some positive karma if I could.. she cracks me up!
eclipse
10-14-2005, 06:08 AM
Yes... who was that annoying soul----aka troll?
Brian my sweet-
You are FAR too demented, insane and all around sick, with your innuendo's, sleasy pictures and witty scarcastic remarks for us all not to love you:xoxo:
Pay no attention to that Rose creature...
or "the man behind the curtain"
ok trivia fans...where is that quote from?
Anyway
Keep up the insults and comments. I love them as well as seeing you on the Ledge whenever I drop by...
hugs,
~~eclipse~~ The witch of wishes and dreams...(Man is she had gotten a hold of me...imagine the nasty things she would have said. :shocked:
Oh well- Can't say that I am sorry I missed her visits (but I had read some of her posts!)
Ummm- welcome to earth Toots!
Livia
10-14-2005, 09:54 AM
That troll sounds like Margaret White (aka, Carrie's mother), who used to visit Burnish, remember??
reebokandlace
10-14-2005, 10:02 AM
Who is Rose ?
What is a troll?
What did I miss while the ledge was down?
Why wasn't I invited to the "other" board? -- where is the other board? I was so lonely.
I don't hate you estranged4life....you make me laugh! :xoxo:
sodascouts
10-14-2005, 10:29 AM
Ugh, do we have to give the fraud the gratification of manipulating people on the "real" Ledge? It seems the sole reason for this thread was to demonstrate how wrong she is to suggest Brian is not high-flying, adored. Duh. As he himself states, he needs no reassurance that he is highly regarded. But he has enabled someone who doesn't even post here to gain influence. Come on, think about it. I know you guys are saavy enough to realize that I am right and that rose.gypsy is a misguided liberal. I encourage you to resist the temptation to encourage such lame and frankly disturbing behavior!
Since rose.gypsy's alter ego is no doubt happily reading this, I will add one more thing. You may think you are hurting conservatives but it says something to me that you choose this route instead of logical argument and debate. Why is this? My guess is that you have a deep-seated psychological desire for control and derive pleasure from cruelty. It makes you feel better about yourself that you can manipulate and hurt others. Oh-so-superior to the "fools" that respond to you.
But you are kidding yourself. It is delusional to justify your cruelty as beneficial to your party. You give yourself a pass to hurt people in order for the "greater good." But I urge you to undergo some self-examination. This behavior is not indicative of superiority. It indicative of an unhealthy mind. Use the time you are currently spending to "cleverly" impersonate a crazy person to study your party's doctrine so that you are able to enter into the world of adult debate. Unless you find it challenging to justify your true beliefs in a straightforward manner? Hmmmm....
catinthedark
10-14-2005, 10:32 AM
Ugh, do we have to give the fraud the gratification of manipulating people on the "real" Ledge? It seems the sole reason for this thread was to demonstrate how wrong she is to suggest Brian is not high-flying, adored. Duh. As he himself states, he needs no reassurance that he is highly regarded. But he has enabled someone who doesn't even post here to gain influence. Come on, think about it. I know you guys are saavy enough to realize that I am right and that rose.gypsy is a misguided liberal. I encourage you to resist the temptation to encourage such lame and frankly disturbing behavior!
Since rose.gypsy's alter ego is no doubt happily reading this, I will add one more thing. You may think you are hurting conservatives but it says something to me that you choose this route instead of logical argument and debate. Why is this? My guess is that you have a deep-seated psychological desire for control and derive pleasure from cruelty. It makes you feel better about yourself that you can manipulate and hurt others. Oh-so-superior to the "fools" that take you seriously.
But you are kidding yourself. It is delusional to justify your cruelty as beneficial to your party. You give yourself a pass to hurt people in order for the "greater good." But I urge you to undergo some self-examination. This behavior is not indicative of superiority. It indicative of an unhealthy mind. Use the time you are currently spending to "cleverly" impersonate a crazy person to study your party's doctrine so that you are able to enter into the world of adult debate. Unless you find it challenging to justify your true beliefs in a straightforward manner? Hmmmm....
Don't worry, Nance. I don't think anyone over there took her/him seriously. More like an amusing little plaything.
sodascouts
10-14-2005, 10:34 AM
Don't worry, Nance. I don't think anyone over there took her/him seriously. More like an amusing little plaything.
OK, I edited it. But the result is the same - can't anyone else see that? Can't anyone else see how this is encouraging destructive behavior?
reebokandlace
10-14-2005, 11:08 AM
I feel so out of the loop. :shrug:
WildInTheWind
10-14-2005, 11:13 AM
Why wasn't I invited to the "other" board? -- where is the other board? I was so lonely.
I don't hate you estranged4life....you make me laugh! :xoxo:
If know one had any way to contact you, that would be why you weren't invited. Alot of people on here only talk on the ledge and through PMs. I was invited because someone from the Ledge knew my email address. If no one knew your email address, no one would have been able to tell you about the new board. Here in the link to it: www.sevenwondersonline.net
estranged4life
10-14-2005, 11:47 AM
Don't worry, Nance. I don't think anyone over there took her/him seriously. More like an amusing little plaything.
started my lil' sarcasm of a thread here :lol:
Brian "Public Enemy #1...Or is that Public Enema #1???" j.
golddustwoman77
10-14-2005, 03:53 PM
Rose.troll may hate you, but Alison and I love you! :xoxo: You are always so wonderful to us.
lbelle1214
10-14-2005, 04:38 PM
Who is Rose ?
What is a troll?
What did I miss while the ledge was down?
Why wasn't I invited to the "other" board? -- where is the other board? I was so lonely.
I don't hate you estranged4life....you make me laugh! :xoxo:
Same questions....:confused: :confused:
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 05:24 PM
I know you guys are saavy enough to realize that I am right and that rose.gypsy is a misguided liberal.The saddest part is that there are millions of people who do truly believe, and would agree with, the things that ol' "Rosie" says.
amber
10-14-2005, 05:49 PM
OK, I edited it. But the result is the same - can't anyone else see that? Can't anyone else see how this is encouraging destructive behavior?
I feel exactly as you do, Nancy, perhaps for some slightly different reasons, but over all the same. I didn't take it as lightly as others did, either, and I didn't think it was funny, and I didn't think it was fun, and I thought it was sick, as you said. :wavey:
SuzeQuze
10-14-2005, 05:50 PM
I feel exactly as you do, Nancy, perhaps for some slightly different reasons, but over all the same. I didn't take it as lightly as others did, either, and I didn't think it was funny, and I didn't think it was fun, and I thought it was sick, as you said. :wavey:
I'm glad I missed it then. I was away on vacation and then when I logged onto the Ledge when I came back on Wed I was bummed it was down. I had no idea about Ledge 2.
amber
10-14-2005, 05:54 PM
I'm glad I missed it then. I was away on vacation and then when I logged onto the Ledge when I came back on Wed I was bummed it was down. I had no idea about Ledge 2.
aww, sorry. I guess I don't have your email address. :confused: hmmm. Anyway, you are glad you missed that. The new board is cyool, though.
sodascouts
10-14-2005, 07:14 PM
The saddest part is that there are millions of people who do truly believe, and would agree with, the things that ol' "Rosie" says.
I'm sure there are some, but millions? Hardly.
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 07:55 PM
I'm sure there are some, but millions? Hardly.With there being a quarter of a billion people in the US, I'd say "millions" is a reasonable estimate.
If only "some" people shared the opinions expressed by rose.gypsy regarding homosexuality and morality, for example, then gays and lesbians wouldn't have to fight so hard for basic civil rights, and we wouldn't have to constantly hear politicians and religious leaders unapologetically calling us "sinners," "abominations," and other lovely things like that.
If there aren't millions of people who agree with the above judgements, then I want to know why there aren't more people refusing to vote for the politicians (and presidential candidates) who do.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 08:06 PM
I'm sure there are some, but millions? Hardly.
Well, tens of millions voted not to extend rights to gay people who want to marry. Clearly it is fair to say that at least 5-10% of them did it because they think all gay people are sinners and are going to Hell, which is basic believe of every major organized form of Judeao Christianty :shrug: Personally, I think it is more like 50 percent of those voters.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 08:08 PM
With there being a quarter of a billion people in the US, I'd say "millions" is a reasonable estimate.
If only "some" people shared the opinions expressed by rose.gypsy regarding homosexuality and morality, for example, then gays and lesbians wouldn't have to fight so hard for basic civil rights, and we wouldn't have to constantly hear politicians and religious leaders unapologetically calling us "sinners," "abominations," and other lovely things like that.
If there aren't millions of people who agree with the above judgements, then I want to know why there aren't more people refusing to vote for the politicians (and presidential candidates) who do.
Totally - I mean almost everyone realizes W lied to get us into a war and yet he opposes gays so they reelect him - I mean that is pretty powerful.
amber
10-14-2005, 08:09 PM
Isn't the real point here that r.g. was being a super creepy a-hole? I didn't think any part of the point was who didn't agree with It. :confused:
dissention
10-14-2005, 08:10 PM
Well, tens of millions voted not to extend rights to gay people who want to marry.
I went out to eat last night and when I came out, I was approached by a black woman who asked if I wanted to sign a petition "to keep marriage between a man and a woman." You do not want to know what I said to her.
At first, I thought it was Althea Garrison, Massachusetts' very own resident nutbag who, amazingly, was elected to office in the early nineties. Just Google her, I'm sure something wacky will come up. :laugh:
amber
10-14-2005, 08:15 PM
I went out to eat last night and when I came out, I was approached by a black woman who asked if I wanted to sign a petition "to keep marriage between a man and a woman." You do not want to know what I said to her.
At first, I thought it was Althea Garrison, Massachusetts' very own resident nutbag who, amazingly, was elected to office in the early nineties. Just Google her, I'm sure something wacky will come up. :laugh:
uh...I want to know what you said to her.
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 08:18 PM
Isn't the real point here that r.g. was being a super creepy a-hole? I didn't think any part of the point was who or who didn't agree with It. :confused:Certainly the person's antics are undoubtedly idiotic, and Nancy's most likely correct in her assumption that whomever the troll really is, they probably don't believe a word of what they're saying, and are simply trying to rile people up.
My point was simply that, phony agenda or not, there are certainly more than enough people who would agree with the statements made by "Rosie." And I highly doubt that they're all liberals just out to make conservatives look bad.
dissention
10-14-2005, 08:19 PM
uh...I want to know what you said to her.
I asked her if she would appreciate it if I approached strangers and asked them to sign petitions that would bar blacks from drinking at the same water fountains as whites, all in the name of God. I wasn't rude about it, I just asked her straight up. She didn't appreciate it very much and told me a simple yes or no would have been sufficient.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 08:20 PM
I went out to eat last night and when I came out, I was approached by a black woman who asked if I wanted to sign a petition "to keep marriage between a man and a woman." You do not want to know what I said to her.
At first, I thought it was Althea Garrison, Massachusetts' very own resident nutbag who, amazingly, was elected to office in the early nineties. Just Google her, I'm sure something wacky will come up. :laugh:
I have not thought of her in many years - what a bi*ch :laugh:
As for what you said to her, I hope it contained at least one finger snap and a heartfelt "PISS OFF" - meant in the kindest way possible :laugh:
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 08:20 PM
I went out to eat last night and when I came out, I was approached by a black woman who asked if I wanted to sign a petition "to keep marriage between a man and a woman." You do not want to know what I said to her.Actually, I would like to know what you said to her! :laugh:
She certainly would have gotten an earful from me, that's for sure. Though I would have been calm and respectful the entire time.
I don't like to play into the reasonings behind people's prejudices.
amber
10-14-2005, 08:21 PM
Certainly the person's antics are undoubtedly idiotic, and Nancy's most likely correct in her assumption that whomever the troll really is, they probably don't believe a word of what they're saying, and are simply trying to rile people up.
My point was simply that, phony agenda or not, there are certainly more than enough people who would agree with the statements made by "Rosie." And I highly doubt that they're all liberals just out to make conservatives look bad.
I understand your point, but was that any part of the original complaint about It? ("It" refers to r.g.)
I dunno, you all can talk about it if you want, obviously, I just didn't think it was the point of r.g..
It certainly wasn't my point about why I didn't like it, and thought it was creepy, and weird, and why I didn't find it funny.
Carry on.
GypsySorcerer
10-14-2005, 08:21 PM
Isn't the real point here that r.g. was being a super creepy a-hole? I didn't think any part of the point was who didn't agree with It. :confused:
It is kind of creepy to me to think there is a Ledgie out there (or a lurker who knows a lot about us) that mosts under rose.gypsy, a known past troll to insult people.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 08:21 PM
I asked her if she would appreciate it if I approached strangers and asked them to sign petitions that would bar blacks from drinking at the same water fountains as whites, all in the name of God. I wasn't rude about it, I just asked her straight up. She didn't appreciate it very much and told me a simple yes or no would have been sufficient.
oh SNAPS to you!!!!!!
I think it is the same thing - but people are loathe to see it because their churches are telling them it is not. Such hatred is sad.
amber
10-14-2005, 08:22 PM
I asked her if she would appreciate it if I approached strangers and asked them to sign petitions that would bar blacks from drinking at the same water fountains as whites, all in the name of God. I wasn't rude about it, I just asked her straight up. She didn't appreciate it very much and told me a simple yes or no would have been sufficient.
Wow, hats off to you. Very logical and fast thinking. And, eff her, you can say whatever you want.:lol:
:xoxo:
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 08:23 PM
I asked her if she would appreciate it if I approached strangers and asked them to sign petitions that would bar blacks from drinking at the same water fountains as whites, all in the name of God. I wasn't rude about it, I just asked her straight up. She didn't appreciate it very much and told me a simple yes or no would have been sufficient.That was actually an excellent way to handle the situation. :nod: :xoxo:
Johnny Stew
10-14-2005, 08:29 PM
I understand your point, but was that any part of the original complaint about It? ("It" refers to r.g.)
I dunno, you all can talk about it if you want, obviously, I just didn't think it was the point of r.g..
It certainly wasn't my point about why I didn't like it, and thought it was creepy, and weird, and why I didn't find it funny.
Carry on.I wasn't weighing in on anything other than Nancy's comment that the person is "obviously" a misguided liberal trying to make conservatives look bad.
Beyond that, it's obvious that whomever "rose.gypsy" is, liberal or conservative, they have way too much time on their hands. And if they were somehow trying to be funny... well, they'd better not quit their day-job (assuming they have one).
amber
10-14-2005, 08:35 PM
I wasn't weighing in on anything other than Nancy's comment that the person is "obviously" a misguided liberal trying to make conservatives look bad.
Beyond that, it's obvious that whomever "rose.gypsy" is, liberal or conservative, they have way too much time on their hands. And if they were somehow trying to be funny... well, they'd better not quit their day-job (assuming they have one).
Oh, I see. ok. :wavey:
markolas
10-14-2005, 08:39 PM
She certainly would have gotten an earful from me, that's for sure. Though I would have been calm and respectful the entire time.
I would've given her two seconds to get out of my face before I pounded hers into the sidewalk. :nod:
dissention
10-14-2005, 08:44 PM
I have not thought of her in many years - what a bi*ch :laugh:
Althea ran for office again last year. It made for some very funny reading in the Globe and the Herald. She wrote letters to them on a constant basis, my favorite being the one where she wanted a sign put up on her street that read "Slow Down, Old Folks Crossing." She later amended it to "seniors." She hosted many Bush/Cheney block parties, too. I think they sucked out her brain cells when they snipped off her penis, personally.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 08:58 PM
. . . I think they sucked out her brain cells when they snipped off her penis, personally.
:eek:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
dissention
10-14-2005, 09:01 PM
:eek:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well, she is a transexual, babe. That's why I'm quite perplexed by her support for the Resmuglicans.
strandinthewind
10-14-2005, 09:04 PM
Well, she is a transexual, babe. That's why I'm quite perplexed by her support for the Resmuglicans.
That is that whole - the R's are the party with the classier people - if I vote with them maybe they'll invite me to their mansion on Beacon Hill for tea, when in reality the situation is outside of some $1,000 a plate luncheon, there is likely no way any private invitation will be issued.
SuzeQuze
10-14-2005, 11:34 PM
I asked her if she would appreciate it if I approached strangers and asked them to sign petitions that would bar blacks from drinking at the same water fountains as whites, all in the name of God. I wasn't rude about it, I just asked her straight up. She didn't appreciate it very much and told me a simple yes or no would have been sufficient.
:laugh: Jesus would be proud. As others have said, prejudice is prejudice no matter how you slice it.
sodascouts
10-15-2005, 12:18 AM
I wasn't weighing in on anything other than Nancy's comment that the person is "obviously" a misguided liberal trying to make conservatives look bad.
Beyond that, it's obvious that whomever "rose.gypsy" is, liberal or conservative, they have way too much time on their hands. And if they were somehow trying to be funny... well, they'd better not quit their day-job (assuming they have one).
"Obvious" in that an analysis of the rhetoric betrays it as parody rather quickly.
catinthedark
10-15-2005, 12:48 AM
Er, I feel like I'm the big white elephant everyone is talking about here. I was the one engaging rose.gypsy on the other board - but I can assure you all I never for a second thought she/he was serious. Nor was I being serious. I was laughing my ass off. I'm sorry if my engaging "it" was seen as negative against anyone here. I certainly didn't mean it that way. As I mentioned to someone afterwards, I had no inkling of the backstory on this troll (and yes, I certainly knew it was a troll); I was simply reading a thread as it unfolded, and for some reason, decided to bite. I rarely do when it's so obviously a troll. I didn't mean harm to anyone. I apologized and I apologize again. But honestly, I was reading it as A) someone so obviously either faking it, or B) wildly ignorant and misinformed. Sometimes I just feel the need to call someone on what they're saying, and that's what I did with gypsy.rose. As you may have noticed, she/he conveniently neglected to answer the posts where I asked for proof of what she/he was saying.
By the way, I do have an idea who gypsy.rose is. But whether I am right or not makes no difference. If I'd known the backstory, I wouldn't have engaged. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
amber
10-15-2005, 02:52 AM
A bunch of people talked to It, including me. Don't feel bad.:shrug:
Sugar
10-15-2005, 09:08 AM
It is kind of creepy to me to think there is a Ledgie out there (or a lurker who knows a lot about us) that mosts under rose.gypsy, a known past troll to insult people.
Totally. Isn't it kinda creepy that she got to the other board nearly as fast as most of the Ledgies?
trackaghost
10-15-2005, 10:25 AM
It is kind of creepy to me to think there is a Ledgie out there (or a lurker who knows a lot about us) that mosts under rose.gypsy, a known past troll to insult people.
Well, that's what I thought too. I mean whoever it is knows a lot about certain Ledgies, meaning they have been properly reading old threads. And those comments weren't in fun or parody or whatever, they were just cruel.
dissention
10-15-2005, 10:29 AM
Totally. Isn't it kinda creepy that she got to the other board nearly as fast as most of the Ledgies?
Very creepy. I wasn't even aware of it until The Ledge was back up and running, so it's obviously someone who hangs out here.
catinthedark
10-15-2005, 10:41 AM
Totally. Isn't it kinda creepy that she got to the other board nearly as fast as most of the Ledgies?
Totally - which is why I thought I knew who it was.
David
10-15-2005, 11:13 AM
Totally - which is why I thought I knew who it was.It's some asshole. Big deal. I think dozens of people read the ledge but don't post. Why is everybody over there feeding on the bait? And of course you get your usual slew of people yapping about "don't feed the trolls!" all the while feeding the trolls themselves.
I must say, I was certainly happy to see that one or two people thought I was this asshole. That certainly gladdens my heart. That gave me just the oomph I needed to get up & get going today. The troll "witch hunts" -- in which people are pegged publicly & then seemingly tried & convicted -- are often as bad as, if not worse than, the trolling itself.
SuzeQuze
10-15-2005, 12:42 PM
It's some asshole. Big deal. I think dozens of people read the ledge but don't post. Why is everybody over there feeding on the bait? And of course you get your usual slew of people yapping about "don't feed the trolls!" all the while feeding the trolls themselves.
I must say, I was certainly happy to see that one or two people thought I was this asshole. That certainly gladdens my heart. That gave me just the oomph I needed to get up & get going today. The troll "witch hunts" -- in which people are pegged publicly & then seemingly tried & convicted -- are often as bad as, if not worse than, the trolling itself.
You a troll? Now that is funny! :laugh:
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