Solecisms in Fleetwood Mac Songs

[David]

What are your favorite solecisms (errors in grammar or usage) in Fleetwood Mac songs? Sometimes the colloquialisms "belong" to the song -- rock songs are always loose & they should be loose -- but sometimes the problem just screams: "I'm a problem!"

Sometimes I can't help but feel/That I'm wasting all of my time
-- Christine McVie

Hoping tomorrow will never come/For you & I
-- Christine McVie

And the songbirds are singing/Like they know the score
-- Christine McVie

I cared not for love nor money
-- Stevie Nicks

I can't define love like it should be
-- Stevie Nicks

And if I was a child/And the child was enough
-- Stevie Nicks

Not like we do in L.A.
-- Lindsey Buckingham

As I lay here in the darkness
-- Colin Allen

How I wish I was back in Georgia
-- Bob Welch

She flashed a couple looks my way
-- Bob Welch

You'll be lovin' like your little mother did ... I won't leave you like my father did
-- Danny Kirwan


And for just plain weird:

I want to be inside your heart/That's the place for me
-- Christine McVie

Does Christine prefer kicking back in his ventricles or his atria?
Preferable for the figuration: "I want to be in your heart"

[bretonbanquet]

Some of those certainly have jumped out a bit at me from time to time, particularly the "You and I" one... although some of those others seem OK to me :o I always wondered why "Skies The Limit" isn't "Sky's The Limit" which is surely what it's supposed to be :confused:

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Some of those certainly have jumped out a bit at me from time to time, particularly the "You and I" one... although some of those others seem OK to me :o I always wondered why "Skies The Limit" isn't "Sky's The Limit" which is surely what it's supposed to be :confused:

You know I never noticed that before about "Skies the limit" how weird

Chris

[Sahara]

I think You and I is the worst.

Lindsey is always making mistakes like that in interviews! EG "Things left unresolved between she and I". I don't mind though, I can forgive him for it. :xoxo:

What's really weird is this:
"I need to know, I need to know, and if you say you're going to leave then you'd better say so"
??

[macfan 57]

I always wondered why "Skies The Limit" isn't "Sky's The Limit" which is surely what it's supposed to be :confused:

That's the obvious one. It should be "The Sky's The Limit". This has always annoyed me.

[catinthedark]

Smile at You: I should have turned away and ran - Just as fast as I can

Planets of the Universe: The earth and the sea and the sky is at rest with the ocean


*crrrrringe*****

[dontlookdown]

to deconstruct lyrics this way would be about as silly as analyzing Beatles or Beach Boys songs.

It's all about the music and the melody for me.

There are very few FM songs that have impressed me lyrics-wise.

Dreams is an exception. I think it's easily one of the best written rock/pop songs.

[AliP]

Sadly, I don't know all the ins and outs of the English language, but the following has always bothered me. Thing is...I don't even know if it is bad grammar. Could someone who is schooled in perfect grammar tell me if the following is wrong?

Songbird: "but most of all, I wish it from myself."


I'm also a bit embarassed because in many of the solecisms David posted, I can't see what's wrong? :confused: yikes.

[LongBlackScarf]

I cared not for love nor money
-- Stevie Nicks

Either, or, neither nor. I say that one is okay. :shrug:


As I lay here in the darkness
-- Colin Allen


Inanimate objects always "lay". But what IS the correct way of saying a human postured herself in a supine postition? She lied down?? That doesn't sound right at all. :shrug:

[David]

Sadly, I don't know all the ins and outs of the English language, but the following has always bothered me. Thing is...I don't even know if it is bad grammar. Could someone who is schooled in perfect grammar tell me if the following is wrong?

Songbird: "but most of all, I wish it from myself."Nothing wrong with that, Ali. We can parse it: "I" is the subjuct, "wish" the verb (here transitive), "it" the direct object of the verb, "from myself" a prepositional phrase that functions adverbially here, modifying the manner of "wish." When a pronoun functions as the object of a preposition in a prepositional phrase ("between me & Stevie," "for you," "under her," "to him & her"), the pronoun should be in the accusative case ("me," "you," "him," "her," "it," "us," "them"). But here there's a reflexive pronoun -- "myself" -- which is perfectly acceptable (grammatically it stands in the same case relation to the preposition as an accusative pronoun does) because "I" precedes it & thus allows it to function emphatically. Christine could just as properly have written "I wish it from me," but that strikes native-English-speaking ears as not quite idiomatic.
I'm also a bit embarassed because in many of the solecisms David posted, I can't see what's wrong?My list was boring -- just the usual list of usage-guide blunders: "can't help but" should be either "I can't help feeling" or "I can't but feel." The rest are ordinary: "like" as a conjunction, double negatives ("I cared not for love nor money" should be "I cared not for love or money" -- the "not" applies to both "love" & "money"), wrong verb with the subjunctive ("If I was a child" should be "If I were a child" because the statement is not factual but a wish or a desire), "lay" for "lie" ("As I lay here in the darkness" would be correct only if the statement were in the past tense) & "a couple looks" should be "a couple of looks" because "couple" is a noun, not an adjective, & so requires the preposition.

[Karlie]

Inanimate objects always "lay". But what IS the correct way of saying a human postured herself in a supine postition? She lied down?? That doesn't sound right at all. :shrug:

She lay down. Lay is the past tense of lie.

[strandinthewind]

You lay a brick, an egg, etc.

People lie.

Here are the tech. definitions:

Main Entry: 1lie
Pronunciation: 'lI
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): lay /'lA/; lain /'lAn/; ly·ing /'lI-i[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English licgan; akin to Old High German ligen to lie, Latin lectus bed, Greek lechos
1 a : to be or to stay at rest in a horizontal position : be prostrate : REST, RECLINE <lie motionless> <lie asleep> b : to assume a horizontal position -- often used with down c archaic : to reside temporarily : stay for the night : LODGE d : to have sexual intercourse -- used with with e : to remain inactive (as in concealment) <lie in wait>
2 : to be in a helpless or defenseless state <the town lay at the mercy of the invaders>
3 of an inanimate thing : to be or remain in a flat or horizontal position upon a broad support <books lying on the table>
4 : to have direction : EXTEND <the route lay to the west>
5 a : to occupy a certain relative place or position <hills lie behind us> b : to have a place in relation to something else <the real reason lies deeper> c : to have an effect through mere presence, weight, or relative position <remorse lay heavily on him> d : to be sustainable or admissible
6 : to remain at anchor or becalmed
7 a : to have place : EXIST <the choice lay between fighting or surrendering> b : CONSIST, BELONG <the success of the book lies in its direct style> <responsibility lay with the adults>
8 : REMAIN; especially : to remain unused, unsought, or uncared for

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Main Entry: 1lay
Pronunciation: 'lA
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): laid /'lAd/; lay·ing
Etymology: Middle English leyen, from Old English lecgan; akin to Old English licgan to lie -- more at LIE
transitive senses
1 : to beat or strike down with force
2 a : to put or set down b : to place for rest or sleep; especially : BURY
3 : to bring forth and deposit (an egg)
4 : CALM, ALLAY <lay the dust>
5 : BET, WAGER
6 : to press down giving a smooth and even surface
7 a : to dispose or spread over or on a surface <lay track> <lay plaster> b : to set in order or position <lay a table for dinner> <lay brick> c : to put (strands) in place and twist to form a rope, hawser, or cable; also : to make by so doing <lay up rope>
8 a : to impose as a duty, burden, or punishment <lay a tax> b : to put as a burden of reproach <laid the blame on her> c : to advance as an accusation : IMPUTE <the disaster was laid to faulty inspection>
9 : to place (something immaterial) on something <lay stress on grammar>
10 : PREPARE, CONTRIVE <a well-laid plan>
11 a : to bring against or into contact with something : APPLY <laid the watch to his ear> b : to prepare or position for action or operation <lay a fire in the fireplace>; also : to adjust (a gun) to the proper direction and elevation
12 : to bring to a specified condition <lay waste the land>
13 a : ASSERT, ALLEGE <lay claim to an estate> b : to submit for examination and judgment <laid her case before the commission>
14 sometimes vulgar : to copulate with
intransitive senses
1 : to produce and deposit eggs
2 nonstandard : 1LIE
3 : WAGER, BET
4 dialect : PLAN, PREPARE
5 a : to apply oneself vigorously <laid to his oars> b : to proceed to a specified place or position on a ship <lay aloft>
- lay on the table 1 : to remove (a parliamentary motion) from consideration indefinitely 2 British : to put (as legislation) on the agenda
usage LAY has been used intransitively in the sense of "lie" since the 14th century. The practice was unremarked until around 1770; attempts to correct it have been a fixture of schoolbooks ever since. Generations of teachers and critics have succeeded in taming most literary and learned writing, but intransitive lay persists in familiar speech and is a bit more common in general prose than one might suspect. Much of the problem lies in the confusing similarity of the principal parts of the two words. Another influence may be a folk belief that lie is for people and lay is for things. Some commentators are ready to abandon the distinction, suggesting that lay is on the rise socially. But if it does rise to respectability, it is sure to do so slowly: many people have invested effort in learning to keep lie and lay distinct. Remember that even though many people do use lay for lie, others will judge you unfavorably if you do.

www.merriamwebster.com

[LongBlackScarf]

Lay is the past tense of lie.

What if you lie just before you get laid? :laugh:

[Karlie]

What if you lie just before you get laid? :laugh:

Hmm... I have to think about that one. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Once again she steals away
Then she reaches out to kiss me
And how she takes my breath away
Pretending that she don’t miss me

should be

Pretending that she doesn't miss me

also, the use of "that" is superfluous, to wit:

Pretending she doesn't miss me

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The word "that" is the most overused word in the English language - though LB's use here is not incorrect.

[Karlie]

Once again she steals away
Then she reaches out to kiss me
And how she takes my breath away
Pretending that she don’t miss me

should be

Pretending that she doesn't miss me

also, the use of "that" is superfluous, to wit:

Pretending she doesn't miss me

___________________________________________

The word "that" is the most overused word in the English language - though LB's use here is not incorrect.


The overuse of "that" has always bothered me. But I don't pay much attention to solecisms in songs. Although I love grammar, I think music was written this way on purpose and shouldn't be scrutinized.

But it's still fun to point out the little errors. :)

[LongBlackScarf]

Although I love grammar, I think music was written this way on purpose and shouldn't be scrutinized.


Somehow, when bad grammar is "sung" it seems far less offensive than when it is spoken or written. At least to me. If we picked the bones of every single song there would be nothing left. Wouldn't "Lay Lady Lay" be "Lie Lady Lie"?? Do we want to hear "She Loves, You, YES, YES, YES"? How about "I Have You, Babe"? :shrug: :D

[Karlie]

Somehow, when bad grammar is "sung" it seems far less offensive than when it is spoken or written. At least to me. If we picked the bones of every single song there would be nothing left. Wouldn't "Lay Lady Lay" be "Lie Lady Lie"?? Do we want to hear "She Loves, You, YES, YES, YES"? How about "I Have You, Babe"? :shrug: :D

:laugh: I totally agree.

[bretonbanquet]

Once again she steals away
Then she reaches out to kiss me
And how she takes my breath away
Pretending that she don’t miss me

should be

Pretending that she doesn't miss me

also, the use of "that" is superfluous, to wit:

Pretending she doesn't miss me

___________________________________________

The word "that" is the most overused word in the English language - though LB's use here is not incorrect.

This use of the word 'that' is thoroughly correct in this case, and most others. It's definitely not overuse at all. Over the past century or so, general (spoken) laziness has resulted in the gradual omission from English of this conjunction. In French, Spanish, Portuguese etc, to omit a conjunction linking a subordinate clause is impossible - but English has effectively made it OK to drop it. Certainly in formal writing, it is best not to drop 'that' in this way.

Apart from that, it's important to remember that lyric writers use a big dollop of poetic licence in their work. Grammar gets twisted and warped for the purposes of rhyme and effect, the same as it does in poetry. If you pulled apart Keats or Wordsworth, you'd find similar things. Also, particularly with ostensibly mystical writers like Stevie Nicks, lyrics are written much as someone would speak, especially if that speech were emotional or passionate. The result is the same in lyrics or speech - shady grammar. There's nothing really wrong with it, but some are worse than others.

[bretonbanquet]

She lay down. Lay is the past tense of lie.

Absolutely - there's nothing wrong with "she lay down" if it's in the past tense. I think the problem with "Wish You Were Here" is that she's singing in the present tense -

"As I lay here in the darkness, I can't find no peace inside"

There are two grammar errors there, but in the context of a song I'm not sure they matter too much. It should be 'lie' in this case, and probably 'any' instead of 'no', but I like it as it is :p

[catinthedark]

"As I lay here in the darkness, I can't find no peace inside"

There are two grammar errors there, but in the context of a song I'm not sure they matter too much. It should be 'lie' in this case, and probably 'any' instead of 'no', but I like it as it is :p

In fact, three: "I can't find no peace inside" is a double negative. As written, she's in fact saying she can find peace! :laugh:

I agree with the posts above which say somehow twisted grammar errors are easier on the ears when sung (for the most part - there are exceptions!). Poetic license and all that stuff.

[golddustwoman77]

It ain't easy
Love ain't easy when it's wrong
Love ain't easy when it's strong


I believe
I believe my time ain't long
I believe
I believe my time ain't long
I ain't gonna leave my baby

My little demon, comin'on down.
My little demon's turnin' me around.
all of my friends keep on tellin'me
that I just ain't the man I used to be.
I really don't like it...ain't nothing I can do.

Give me back my freedom
let me see the daylight
make them stop the bleeding
can't you see it ain't right

We go over and over
We ain't about to leave
Until it's over

Getting ready to go long about two
Almost time to say good-bye
Now wait a minute here now we ain't through

The winds of change
Gonna blow it all away
Ain't it strange

I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Oh, just like the way I miss my baby now


I never realized how many times the MAc had "ain't" in their lyrics until this thread. :eek: There is every more than the ones that I posted.

[michelle2677]

On Rhiannon LIB

this has always bothered me, but the

"would you stay if she promised to you heaven? would you even try? would you even try? weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..I don't think you do"

am I the only one here??
suprisingly...(well..not really, since it's most people's LOL) it's my favorite part of that version. oh well :)

[catinthedark]

On Rhiannon LIB

this has always bothered me, but the

"would you stay if she promised to you heaven? would you even try? would you even try? weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..I don't think you do"

am I the only one here??
suprisingly...(well..not really, since it's most people's LOL) it's my favorite part of that version. oh well :)


YES!!! It's why I just can't get into that line. I know it's a lot of people's fave, but it just hurts my ears. :sorry:

[UndoingTheLaces]

Okay, how much would the Stone's Satisfaction have SUCKED if Mick had sung "I can't get any satisfaction".

And you guys should never ever listen to a Coctau Twins song. They make it a point to conceal the lyrics in tons of overdubs, echo and broken syllables. LOL!

[shackin'up]

What if you lie just before you get laid? :laugh:

If there's a causal connection between the first and the latter it is simply smart.

:D

[chiliD]

What if you lie just before you get laid? :laugh:


Hmmmm...in most cases you HAVE to lie to get laid. :D

[HomerMcvie]

Hmmmm...in most cases you HAVE to lie to get laid. :D
And I can measure any way I want. I like to start at my belly button. ;) :sorry:

[Jyqm]

Did anybody ever mention "Smile At You" in this thread? This might be the most egregious example of all:

"I should have turned away and ran / As fast as I can."

It's not as though she just committed one grammatical error for the sake of rhyme. Both rhyming words are incorrect, making the whole couplet sound as though it were sung by a four year old playing tag.

[Karlie]

Did anybody ever mention "Smile At You" in this thread? This might be the most egregious example of all:

"I should have turned away and ran / As fast as I can."

It's not as though she just committed one grammatical error for the sake of rhyme. Both rhyming words are incorrect, making the whole couplet sound as though it were sung by a four year old playing tag.

:laugh: :laugh:
I think it was mentioned before. That one always annoyed me.

[MacFans]

On Rhiannon LIB

this has always bothered me, but the

"would you stay if she promised to you heaven? would you even try? would you even try? weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..I don't think you do"

am I the only one here??


You are not the only one. "I don't think you do what" :laugh: All these years and I don't think I know what she doesn't think he does.

(Syd)

[cliffdweller]

You are not the only one. "I don't think you do what" :laugh: All these years and I don't think I know what she doesn't think he does.

(Syd)

:laugh: Yes. This line makes NO sense whatsoever. Everytime I hear it I think "I don't think YOU WOULD!!!" "WOULD STEVIE!!"

Also speaking of Rhiannon...how about, "would you stay if she promised TO you heaven?" I know I've heard that on a live recording, (was it The Dance?) I don't think it's on the studio version. That has always made me cringe!

[Jyqm]

Also speaking of Rhiannon...how about, "would you stay if she promised TO you heaven?" I know I've heard that on a live recording, (was it The Dance?) I don't think it's on the studio version. That has always made me cringe!

That's not incorrect. The "to" isn't necessary there, but it's not wrong.

[strandinthewind]

How about when LB sings "finely found me" in Crystal instead of "Finally found me" :cool:

[cliffdweller]

How about when LB sings "finely found me" in Crystal instead of "Finally found me" :cool:

That's not necessarily incorrect, he's just trying to sound like a hillbilly dear :laugh:.

[cliffdweller]

That's not incorrect. The "to" isn't necessary there, but it's not wrong.

Yeah, but it's choppy. I don't like it. The "to" is unnecessary. It's hard on my ears.

[strandinthewind]

That's not necessarily incorrect, he's just trying to sound like a hillbilly dear :laugh:.

I know - but it just sounds weird when he does not in that high Calif. voice, lord love him :laugh:

[skcin]

:laugh: Yes. This line makes NO sense whatsoever. Everytime I hear it I think "I don't think YOU WOULD!!!" "WOULD STEVIE!!"




I KNOW! She did say "would" at the AHI Benefit (2000?) but lately it's been "do." So annoying.

[Raeven Skye]

Smile at You: I should have turned away and ran - Just as fast as I can



*crrrrringe*****


thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!! I refuse to even sing it this way....and after watching the Lindsay show (Destiny Rules), and he busted Stevie on the tense shift in Thrown Down, how did this make it past him???:lol:

[Raeven Skye]

Hmmmm...in most cases you HAVE to lie to get laid. :D


unless you're really bendy

[strandinthewind]

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!! I refuse to even sing it this way....and after watching the Lindsay show (Destiny Rules), and he busted Stevie on the tense shift in Thrown Down, how did this make it past him???:lol:

he was too busy pretending she don't miss me :laugh:

[dissention]

thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!! I refuse to even sing it this way....and after watching the Lindsay show (Destiny Rules), and he busted Stevie on the tense shift in Thrown Down, how did this make it past him???:lol:

Chances are that he didn't even bother to bring it up after the Thrown Down discussion. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Chances are that he didn't even bother to bring it up after the Thrown Down discussion. :laugh:

Do you think she tried to tell him "pretending she don't miss me" was equally as incorrect if not more apparent than "as fast as I can"?

[dissention]

Do you think she tried to tell him "pretending she don't miss me" was equally as incorrect if not more apparent than "as fast as I can"?

Probably not. I'm sure she just chuckled on the inside over it. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Probably not. I'm sure she just chuckled on the inside over it. :laugh:

and then wondered how it was to miss her and all those things he never really told her :cool:

[dissention]

and then wondered how it was to miss her and all those things he never really told her :cool:

Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke.

[Raeven Skye]

Chances are that he didn't even bother to bring it up after the Thrown Down discussion. :laugh:
hehehe..right...he was afraid he'd get the Bob Dylan defense again!

[lagringader&r]

and then wondered how it was to miss her and all those things he never really told her :cool:

Oh dear god no. Not you, Strand.. You're my..speaker. My interpreter. And I loved you. You can't be one of them. Oh dear god nooooo.. Say it isn't so.

No, I am not coked up at the moment, thank you very much..

[strandinthewind]

Oh dear god no. Not you, Strand.. You're my..speaker. My interpreter. And I loved you. You can't be one of them. Oh dear god nooooo.. Say it isn't so.

No, I am not coked up at the moment, thank you very much..

LOL

I do think they have something going on. Whether that ends or ended on state, I cannot say and no one really can for sure unless they have seen them in the act, which I never have.

I do think, however, Thrown Down is about their relationship at the time of The Dance and she said as much.

[lagringader&r]

LOL

I do think they have something going on. Whether that ends or ended on state, I cannot say and no one really can for sure unless they have seen them in the act, which I never have.

I do think, however, Thrown Down is about their relationship at the time of The Dance and she said as much.

What to say, what to say.. I had a ship moment yesterday. I left my stash of FM stuff at home coz when I came here in July, I thought I'd be back home in 2 weeks. So my mom had shipped some of my dvds and other stuff to me. So I was watching Live in Boston yesterday. Silver Springs and Say Goodbye were the two ship moments. In Silver Springs, I admit that there is a lot of passion when they're screaming the words at each other and Lindsey's eyes get very big. Then they dropped Silver Springs during the Say You Will tour. I remember that some shows were cancelled coz of Stevie's voice around the same time. So I wondered why they dropped it and if that's why they dropped it. I thought if I was his wife, I would get a little nervous at the passion in that song. I know it's just a song tho. The other one was Say Goodbye when Stevie kind of gets this look at the end like "yep ok, it's over" but it was a kind of a sad look. I don't think there's anything going on between them but I think they have this really sad history and on stage, it can erupt. I have reasons for thinking there's nothing going on and I'm not pulling a Kel but I can't say exactly what they are. I need to talk about this with my aunt. She has been following Stevie/FM since they started. So I have ship moments but it doesn't add up for me. But I still love you.

On edit: I'm not a singer or a performer so I don't know but maybe the songs bring out some passion that would not usually be there. Stevie's songs make me feel passionate but there's not a camera on me to record those moments I'm singing along and I'm into it. Like on Live in Boston during Beautiful Child, it shows Jana singing "hold you" and she looks like she's in love, her eyes are closed and she's really into it. But she wouldn't have any attachment to that song at all. But she looks like she does. And I'll bet that if they had her singing Silver Springs with Lindsey, she would have to do it really with passion or the song would lost all the meaning even tho she has no attachment to him and is married to some other dude. That's just what I think.

[Raeven Skye]

What to say, what to say.. I had a ship moment yesterday. I left my stash of FM stuff at home coz when I came here in July, I thought I'd be back home in 2 weeks. So my mom had shipped some of my dvds and other stuff to me. So I was watching Live in Boston yesterday. Silver Springs and Say Goodbye were the two ship moments. In Silver Springs, I admit that there is a lot of passion when they're screaming the words at each other and Lindsey's eyes get very big. Then they dropped Silver Springs during the Say You Will tour. I remember that some shows were cancelled coz of Stevie's voice around the same time. So I wondered why they dropped it and if that's why they dropped it. I thought if I was his wife, I would get a little nervous at the passion in that song. I know it's just a song tho. The other one was Say Goodbye when Stevie kind of gets this look at the end like "yep ok, it's over" but it was a kind of a sad look. I don't think there's anything going on between them but I think they have this really sad history and on stage, it can erupt. I have reasons for thinking there's nothing going on and I'm not pulling a Kel but I can't say exactly what they are. I need to talk about this with my aunt. She has been following Stevie/FM since they started. So I have ship moments but it doesn't add up for me. But I still love you.

On edit: I'm not a singer or a performer so I don't know but maybe the songs bring out some passion that would not usually be there. Stevie's songs make me feel passionate but there's not a camera on me to record those moments I'm singing along and I'm into it. Like on Live in Boston during Beautiful Child, it shows Jana singing "hold you" and she looks like she's in love, her eyes are closed and she's really into it. But she wouldn't have any attachment to that song at all. But she looks like she does. And I'll bet that if they had her singing Silver Springs with Lindsey, she would have to do it really with passion or the song would lost all the meaning even tho she has no attachment to him and is married to some other dude. That's just what I think.

I think maybe what began as an unscripted moment in The Dance became rote when they toured because it's what everyone wanted. I can sing kareoke to some drunk in a bar, and "feel" it for that moment, too. Having such a history with your musical partner is hard to totally disentangle from, tho.

[strandinthewind]

. . . In Silver Springs, I admit that there is a lot of passion when they're screaming the words at each other and Lindsey's eyes get very big. Then they dropped Silver Springs during the Say You Will tour. I remember that some shows were cancelled coz of Stevie's voice around the same time. So I wondered why they dropped it and if that's why they dropped it. I thought if I was his wife, I would get a little nervous at the passion in that song. I know it's just a song tho . . . .

There was a big debate about why Silver Springs was dropped from the SYW set. The last performace of it was in Atlanta and many of us were there. Many people saw Kristin Buckingham holding the newborn Stella Buckingham in the wings as if to say LB is mine you cannot have him and that gesture upset Stevie so much she dropped SS. I was at that concert and saw no baby. But, others did and who am I to tell them what they saw, etc. The official word from Cory Buckingham was that Stevie dropped SS on the advice of her vocal coach, and her voice then failed. If you want, go to www.buckinghamnicks.net and look through the threads for a huge discussion about this, some of which (including mine) is silly but much of it is a cool discussion.

[Angelick Witch]

Back up there about the lyrics, sorry to go back to that, but I'd love to see anyone bring any of those up with any of the band members after the Thrown Down discussion. Stevie can be pretty scary...

And I think there's always chemistry between Stevie and Lindsey, and that's not something they can get rid of, and up on stage with all the adreneline and excitment, they can just ... let that chemistry be their worl for a while, even if he goes back to his wife and kids afterwards and she goes back to her... little dogs?

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