Discussion of Soundstage songs [Archive]

wondergirl9847

09-14-2005, 05:44 PM

SGCYM - O....M....G. If he tours, he has GOT to do this one!! Amazing!! What an opener! I cannot wait to SEE him sing it. It translated so well!!

Trouble - I LOVE IT!! It's way better than the OOTC Centerstage version. I love what he did at the end.

Big Love - Wish he had done a solo song in place of this, but it's always a mindblower.

Go Insane - This one is always spec-friggin-tacular. Good to hear it after a drought.

DOR - LOVE IT!! Wierd to hear him say the title!! Hee!! I think I like this better than the GOS version! Glad he cut out that "Can you hear me Annie?" crap. LOL I like the na-na's.

Peacekeeper - Wow, sounds so different from the SYW tour! Sounds cool stripped down, but I will always prefer the solo version.

Red Rover - This song is just amazing. I'm glad it got a great reception. :) It's such a difficult song to sing, I would imagine, but he nails it every freakin' time. That deep voice saying Red Rover gives me the willies. LOL

NGBA - Briefly. LMAO!! Wierd song to choose to have her sing on. She doesn't do much. Yikes with the pleghm. :laugh:

Say Goodbye - Her singing Frozen Love was frickin' awesome! Wish they would have sung the whole thing a capella! Say Goodbye makes me cry. Amazing. They always sound flawless.

Murrow - I liked parts of it, but didn't care for the solo (I know, I must be on crack, right? It's identical to ISA in parts. :rolleyes:). I'm really iffy on this, glad he didn't do it on the SYW tour. Wish he had a more cohesive solo.

GYOW - I've never cared much for this live...and this version didn't help things any. LOL Wish he would have cut Murrow and GYOW. They should have left in SMAP for a finale and perhaps for a barnburner, oh, I dunno...ISA or even....Come. :nod:

AliP

09-14-2005, 06:41 PM

[B]DOR Glad he cut out that "Can you hear me Annie?" crap. LOL I like the na-na's.

LOL. That's funny because I was in dreaded anticpation as I was listening to him sing it, praying that he would not sing that part. So glad he left that one out.

catinthedark

09-14-2005, 06:45 PM

SGCYM - O....M....G. If he tours, he has GOT to do this one!!

Peacekeeper - Wow, sounds so different from the SYW tour! Sounds cool stripped down, but I will always prefer the solo version.

Say Goodbye - Her singing Frozen Love was frickin' awesome! Wish they would have sung the whole thing a capella! Say Goodbye makes me cry. Amazing. They always sound flawless.

I just downloaded the audio from Nancy's site today - huge thanks to Nancy and Brian who ripped it! - becaue it doesn't run on my PBS station til October. But I am LOVING it. I agree with what you said above... and here are my stand outs:

Trouble: I never really loved this song. Until now. It is brilliant done accoustically.

DOR: One of my favourite Londsey songs ever. I would die to see it live. This makes me hopeful it will end up on the final Fleetwood Mac album, if that ever happens.

NGBA: I have to disagree with you here. :sorry: I never cared one way or another for this song UNTIL I saw it during the SYW tour. The addition of Stevie's harmonies completely changed this song for me. It's now one of my classic favourites. I listen to it live all the time - and I think this version is fabulous.

Frozen Love: oh, to die. Oh, to hear the full version of this live today...

Murrow: Holy crap - this version is amazing.

And I'm always a sucker for GYOW. :nod:

Question for the people who were lucky enough to be at this taping: Did you all know Stevie was going to show up? Or was it a complete surprise? I started coming to The Ledge just after this was taped, so I don't remember...

Anyway - overall, I just can't believe it took them so frickin long to get this on the air. I'll be buying the DVD for sure.

BTFLCHLD

09-14-2005, 06:46 PM

SGCYM Red Rover - This song is just amazing. I'm glad it got a great reception. :) It's such a difficult song to sing, I would imagine, but he nails it every freakin' time. That deep voice saying Red Rover gives me the willies. LOL this is the song i most look forward to seeing him do...thank you for providing your take songxsong...makes me really want more.

estranged4life

09-14-2005, 06:55 PM

SGCYM The second best performance of the show...Sounded great in the live environment. Would have preferred this track over some of the songs used on the 2003-2004 SYW tour.

Trouble Average sounding to me...

Big Love Another average performance...

Go Insane Best performance of the set IMO...Like the slower pacing compared to previous acoustic versions, His voice fit the slower pacing too.

DOR Someone posted that the mix was off...Hate to have to admit I agree with 'em...Sounded off to me.

Peacekeeper Would have been great if Brett would not have played the flown-in those annoying processed Lindsey effected backing vocals on the Korg...

Red Rover Best live version I have heard, Since it is the ONLY known version (Thus far) that was professionally recorded during 2003-2004

NGBA Average, Nuthing to write home about...

Say Goodbye Frozen Love snippet was great...The song "Say Goodbye" was very emotional but didnt do much for me.

Murrow Like the studio version too much, I thought the solo was a bit too ISA, Otherwise it was an alright track...

GYOW Dud!!! Dont know, sounded really bland to my ears.

lbfan

09-14-2005, 09:22 PM

"Question B for the people who were lucky enough to be at this taping: Did you all know Stevie was going to show up? Or was it a complete surprise? I started coming to The Ledge just after this was taped, so I don't remember...

Anyway - overall, I just can't believe it took them so frickin long to get this on the air. I'll be buying the DVD for sure."

Regarding Question B, no one knew what songs Stevie would sing. There was the usual speculation that she would sing Landslide, so it was a surprise that she only sang back-up on Lindsey's songs.

Regarding the last comment, I think Lindsey and his management have been continuing to hope that this Soundstage would support a solo album. In my opinion, this leads to one of two conclusions: 1) A solo album is indeed forthcoming; or 2) Reality has set in that a solo album will sell less than 100,000 copies and the major labels (Warner/Reprise) won't release it (a la Gift of Screws) and the decision was made to grant PBS to air the show. If the major studios and Mick get their way, all of Lindsey's songs will end up on another FM album and ensuing "farewell tour" (which we know from other artists, is a ploy to sell more concert tickets and does not mean it is the last performance of their careers).

PenguinHead

09-14-2005, 09:43 PM

I wish Go Your Own Way would have gone its own way. Such a predictable, uninspired closer. It would have been nice if he closed with a softer song, like Down On Rodeo.

Regarding Trouble - I was missing the snap and punch that it had when he performed it on the OOTC tour.

Murrow was cool -- interesting to hear how he recreated a heavily produced studio track.

Never Going Back Again was somewhat lackluster...they did it so much better on the Say You Will tour.

I wonder how Steal Your Heart Away went. I guess we'll have to wait for the DVD.

catinthedark

09-14-2005, 10:04 PM

I wonder how Steal Your Heart Away went. I guess we'll have to wait for the DVD.

They did SYHA?? Did Stevie sing on it? That's one of my favourite songs on SYW. I didn't realize the entire show wasn't aired. I can't wait to get the DVD! :)

wondergirl9847

09-14-2005, 10:24 PM

There was the usual speculation that she would sing Landslide, so it was a surprise that she only sang back-up on Lindsey's songs.

Why would she sing Landslide? It's Lindsey's show. It wasn't Buckingham Nicks Soundstage.

I'm not aiming my WTH at you, lbfan, but at the speculators. LOL

Karlie

09-15-2005, 12:16 AM

GYOW Dud!!! Dont know, sounded really bland to my ears.

IMO, this was the best live version of GYOW I've ever heard.

WelshWitchPMD

09-15-2005, 02:47 AM

"Question B for the people who were lucky enough to be at this taping: Did you all know Stevie was going to show up? Or was it a complete surprise? I started coming to The Ledge just after this was taped, so I don't remember...

Regarding Question B, no one knew what songs Stevie would sing. There was the usual speculation that she would sing Landslide, so it was a surprise that she only sang back-up on Lindsey's songs.

Yes, we knew that that she was going to be there. The show was advertised with her as a special guest when the tickets were made available.
We really had no idea what songs either one of them was going to do. The show was a total surprise at least to me anyway. The only thing that I did know was that Taku, Brett Tuggle and Neale Haywood were going to be playing with LB. I found that out on the Saturday night before the show from Mick.

DownOnRodeo

09-15-2005, 05:06 AM

Thanks heaps Brian J. and Nancy :wavey:

So good to finally hear this, it could be the proverbial phonebook reading and presumably I'd still be impressed. But as it is, I'm really impressed with these great versions of some of our favourite songs.

SGCYM - Amazingly like the GOS studio version that we're all familiar with. It's almost like they used this song to set the style for the arrangement/style of the rest of the songs. (PS: Hooray for Lux for getting her song! ;) )

Trouble - Like most people, I'm a big fan of this stripped down version. I thought the new vocals at the end were great.

Down On Rodeo - I was AGHAST! at first... Where are the bass and drums?!?! I'm sorry but.. taking the bass and drum parts out of DOR is like taking them out of Sara.. or even The Chain for that matter. They kept the drums at the end of SGCYM - why not have them in DOR? I guess it didn't go with the style of the whole show. I think I'm gonna try recording some drums and bass over this version and see how that sounds, because while of course the rest of the instrumentation is great.. it's just missing something. (PS: Hooray to me for getting my song! :o )

Big Love - Was he trying to break a world record for fast guitar playing here?!

NGBA - Classic brillance. Nice to have this modern version with Stevie but without the rhythm section from SYW for a change.

Murrow Turning Over In His Grave - LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! (They didn't rob this one of the integral bass and drums.. why DOR :( )

face of glass

09-15-2005, 06:04 AM

Eternally grateful to Brian and Nancy. :nod:

"Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind": Never been a big fan of this one, and it does sound less atmospheric than the studio version naturally, therefore less impressive too. However, not bad by any means.

"Trouble": Cool as hell, love the new riff at the start.

"Down On Rodeo": Artificial harmonies abound, not that I mind. The guitar sounds great, and I don't miss the rhythm section.

"Peacekeeper": Better on my ears than the SYW tour version for sure, but I've never thought that much about the track in the first place.

"Murrow": I really like the way this one sounds, the solo does borrow from "I'm So Afraid" but then that was to be expected, and it's not a complete rip-off anyway.

One thing I still have problems with are some of the pre-recorded pieces, too much of an attempt to make things sound like the record. And Lindsey's voice has been altered in post-procession, but that's just something we have to deal with these days.

shackin'up

09-15-2005, 06:20 AM

First of all, Who thought Lindsey's voice is not what it used to be? His singing is exquisite in this set. He reall emotionized a lot of songs by singing it by totally surrendering to the lyrics. The agression in Murrow ( what an incredible effort to translate this song in this WEIRD-liveversion! ), the building up and convincing singing in Trouble ( he IS in trouble in the end, more than in the original), the absolute fabulous NAILING of SGCYM ( which turns out as a total classic, with a vocalperformance that's :eek: :eek: -powerful! ). The pace in Big Love is mindblowing, but I sure would have loved to hear Miranda or Given Thing here, Go Insane isn't as creepy as the Danceversion but it's done prettier here. (I prefer creepy though :laugh: ). DOR has to grow on me. I don't like the phasing sound of the voice here, but it has never been one of my faves-what a contrast with Joe ;) I'm happy for you buddy). Peacekeeper was better delivered than in the mac-environment, but still the solo-studioversion rules: it needs bass/drums at the right pace, with the right balls). For Red Rover one can only have respect. It's a work of art that stands alone in his work and it's amazing how they managed to translate this to the stage. The male vocals really work here! Never Going Back Again is fantastic, in my opinion. I love this slightly slower version without the brushes, that works too, but this is so vulnerable....although Stevie's a little better on LIB. Chills through Frozen Love AND Say Goodbye, what a great touching vocalperformance that is....

Murrow is really amazing, and WHAT a discipline of the whole band. This could have been a desastrous mish-mash SO easily. Lindsey's vocal is simply FANTASTIC. What an emotion and tension comes out of it. I miss the agression in the solo, but it's SO dark and slow. And the ISA-connection? What else is new....
Nobody's very eager to write positive about GYOW, but I like this one. He sings it again with passion (how is that possible after tenthousand times?) and it is weird to hear it bassless. Love the heavier accent on the acoustic "counterpart", though and it's an interesting approach on a song that sounds so different now.

Yeah, I'm very happy with this.

Thanks Brian J!!!!!! and everyone who tipped me on downloading.............

catinthedark

09-15-2005, 08:41 AM

Yes, we knew that that she was going to be there. The show was advertised with her as a special guest when the tickets were made available.

Cool - thanks for the answer. When I was listening, I was like, does the audience not know who he's introducing??? That would have been an incredible surprise! :]

David

09-15-2005, 10:47 AM

Trouble: I never really loved this song. Until now. It is brilliant done accoustically.I wouldn't know, because it wasn't done acoustically on Soundstage.

Mari

09-15-2005, 12:21 PM

First of all, THANKS to Nancy and Brian :xoxo:
I didn't have time last night to come online so it's been a long agonising wait, haha.

Someone's gotta Change their Mind (typing it out in full because I didn't had a clue what song you were talking about:D) Ooooooooh gooooooodddd... I'm having shivers down my spine while listening to this! AMAZING. Turning the volume up to the max, sorry neighbours.
Klote wat goed. *snif* What an excellent choice for opening. Like his singing a lot.
(on re-reading, sorry Christy for copying your comments, LOL, I didn't know you said the same things)
Trouble Hm. Have to get used to this, I think. Nice to hear it in a different arrangement, but so far it doesn't sound very original to me.
Big Love I wish the audience wouldn't clap along. I hate that. Oh boy, guess I'll have to practice another seven years before I reach that speed :D
Go Insane Excellent. As always.
Down On Rodeo hehe, I like that NGBA-like guitarrif. Love the background choir.
Peacekeeper I'm going to say something odd: I miss Mick Fleetwood. :eek: I mean I like it better with drums.
speech.. what?!? He talks? He jokes?! NEW jokes? lol!!!
Red Rover Ok, let's open that can of superlatives again. Excellent. etc...
Never Going Back Again Such tender singing.
Say Goodbye .. that is so sweet. Give me some more superlatives.
Murrow. Ooooh like it. I'm repeating myself, sorry! Hm, now that I hear the guitarsolo-part, yes it's very ISA-like but that fits here well anyway. Hm, ends a bit abrupt.
Go Your Own Way This one suffers a bit from the "I've heard it so much I don't actually hear it anymore"-syndrome. It's ok though.

wondergirl9847

09-15-2005, 02:26 PM

Sorceress

09-15-2005, 03:51 PM

Perhaps I need to listen to Murrow some more. I've only had time to listen to it once though. I LOVE his vocal, but that solo didn't sound great to me. When I get back from vacation, I'll have a go at it again, see if I change my mind. Someone's got to, right? BWAH!

No, I think you're right about Murrow. I thought the solo was awful. Half So Afraid and half an uninspired mess. It seemed like he had no plan and wasn't feeling it to wing it. Or something? I don't know. The song didn't come off well live at all, IMO.

SGTCYM, Trouble, DOR, and Go Insane were fab though.

shackin'up

09-15-2005, 04:35 PM

IMO, this was the best live version of GYOW I've ever heard.

That's a step to far for me, Karlie, but it is definately a version of the song's own mirrorside.The liveversions we know all lean on LB's electric guitarriffs together with Mick and John's incredible energy rythmicly. But the acoustic "counterpart" was an invention that was put in late when he was recording it.(correct me if I'm wrong). Ray Lindsey played it fantastic for years, but the focus was on the Turner-parts.

this version leans on the "counterpart". It sounds full of energy and those guitars seem to have a ball together. Therefore it does not have the rockfeel the otherones had, but a folky sweat-swing, that with his aged vocal sounds a little more upbeat-bittersweet and a little less bitter-but-up. I think the male vocals are a relief for the song. I don't miss Stevie here because she BELONGS to the more rocking liveversions. No problem there, because she can't escape or be sent out of that song anyway; she's in it, even if Giulio Iglesias sang it.

The electric lines he plays are gorgeously grainy. I love it.

PS (Not meant for you, Karlie):

don't smoke alone, David. Pass it......Now! :cool:

David

09-15-2005, 04:44 PM

don't smoke alone, David. Pass it......Now! :cool:Stoned or not, I really love the GYOW on this show -- a lot more than about the last twenty years' worth of GYOWs.

shackin'up

09-15-2005, 04:49 PM

Stoned or not, I really love the GYOW on this show -- a lot more than about the last twenty years' worth of GYOWs.

Can you live with my with perception of it?

David

09-15-2005, 04:58 PM

Can you live with my with perception of it?Oh sure, it's right on the mark. The counterpart is thicker, richer, etc. It chimes more like a Byrds song here, with that folk quality you brought up

It's also a lot more interesting to my ears to hear the chorus with only male voices.

estranged4life

09-15-2005, 05:48 PM

IMO, this was the best live version of GYOW I've ever heard.

but I have heard GYOW so many times as of late I am starting to dislike the song...Maybe that has to do with my opinion :shrug:

sodascouts

09-15-2005, 06:28 PM

Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind: Gives me chills. His voice is so evocative on it.

Trouble: Best version EVER. I adore it. I love how he goes high at the end.

Big Love: Again, one of the best versions I've ever heard. Playing at the speed of light. He is so talented!

Go Insane: I find myself being repetitive. It was one of the best versions I've ever heard. He sounded so intense and passionate - like Gerald noted, in a diffferent way than the Dance. I'm not sure which I like better. The Dance version is what got me interested in Lindsey as a solo artist, so it holds a special place in my heart. :)

Down On Rodeo: I so wish this had been on SYW. It's magnificent.

Peacekeeper: I'm afraid I've never been impressed with this live.

Red Rover: The first time I'd ever heard it live (back then) and I was enthralled. A highlight of the show.

Never Going Back Again: Good, but nothing spectacular.

Say Goodbye: Again, touching, but nothing we haven't seen before.

Murrow: Um - don't like it so much. It was weird listening to him trying to overlap his own vocals - "Ed Murrow had a child.... in his grave.... the damn thing went wild.... in his grave..." conjurs up some disturbing images of children thrashing in graves. :(

Go Your Own Way: Nice version, but not a standout.

All in all an incredible show!

catinthedark

09-15-2005, 06:57 PM

I wouldn't know, because it wasn't done acoustically on Soundstage.

Jesus. You need to get some.

I should have said stripped down. Non-studio produced. Sorry for the grave error. I think most people knew what I meant.

WelshWitchPMD

09-15-2005, 07:47 PM

No, I think you're right about Murrow. I thought the solo was awful. Half So Afraid and half an uninspired mess.

:laugh: Yeah, I hate to say it but a mess is what it sounded like to me, too. Of course when I get to see a better copy of the show I can give a fair judgement.

catinthedark

09-15-2005, 08:22 PM

Since you seem to be so keen on telling people to get lives, some, etc., (myself included in that group of course) please, enlighten us. We cannot do it on our own, as I'm sure you've figured out.

I'm not sure why you would assume I was speaking to you. It's not all about you, you know.

David

09-15-2005, 09:35 PM

Go Your Own Way: Nice version, but not a standout.Nancy, Nancy, Nancy. . . . :( :(

sodascouts

09-15-2005, 09:49 PM

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy. . . . :( :(

I am sorry to pain you, but so it was.

tuigirl

09-16-2005, 12:36 AM

David

09-16-2005, 12:41 AM

I am sorry to pain you, but so it was.Try as I might, Nancy, I'm afraid I don't understand you. I just don't understand you.

But we're still friends & we have many good discussions ahead of us.

David

09-16-2005, 12:44 AM

Jesus. You need to get some.It doesn't keep, toots, unless you refrigerate it. :laugh: :lol:
I should have said stripped down. Non-studio produced. Sorry for the grave error. I think most people knew what I meant.Of course people knew what you meant, as did I. But my job here is to cut down my fellow ledgies. :shocked:

sodascouts

09-16-2005, 08:07 AM

Many thanks to Brian and Nancy for putting this up, the quality is great!
Interesting isn't it, that he included a couple of Gift of screws songs in the set (sgcym, DoR) which in theory, nobody should know that they even exist. It's like, he assumes we all know them (which we do, but thats besides the point!)

Actually he appeared a bit confused when some of his fans were singing along to these songs. I lamely tried to pretend I was "learning" them as he sang and waited until the second choruses to start singing. I'm sure he was very concerned with whether the girl in the fifth row had bootleg copies of his songs... not. lol

sodascouts

09-16-2005, 08:16 AM

Try as I might, Nancy, I'm afraid I don't understand you. I just don't understand you.
Don't feel badly about your mystification. I am an enigma.

But we're still friends & we have many good discussions ahead of us.
Aw, how sweet. I hope you will forgive the use of the kissy smiley here, but I deem it appropriate. :xoxo:

catinthedark

09-16-2005, 09:49 AM

Of course people knew what you meant, as did I. But my job here is to cut down my fellow ledgies. :shocked:

:laugh: :laugh:

Damn. Musta missed the memo about your duties around here. :)

Kelly

09-17-2005, 07:56 AM

Murrow is getting no love. I kinda liked it. I am not such a big fan of the studio version but this version seemed pretty cool to me.

Trouble was brilliant...probably my favorite version.

Down on Rodeo...adore the song so I loved it. It was really enhanced though. The lush backing harmonies do add tremendously to the song, though.
Say Goodbye...very intense version. I liked AC and Camden from 2004 better though. The FL snippet was sweet and I am still shocked LB left it in. (he cut out so much chitchat, banter and even other significant moments, like the Big Love dedication)

I have seen a few mentions of an LB solo album coming out this winter......I wonder why he wouldn't use this Soundstage to help promote it? It is not like WB will give him much coin to promote a solo venture...this SS would have been excellent, free promotion. He held back on allowing its release for two years, logically he could have refused for a few more months to coorespond with this rumoured solo album.

AliceLover

09-18-2005, 10:59 AM