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Phoenix
09-13-2005, 12:55 AM
Ok, Well I don't DARE post this on the lindsy board, but as many people DID point out, During lindsys soundstage, stevie WAS on her "best behavior" How she kept the focus compleetly all about lindsy, wich was very appropriate, don't get me wrong, but I don't buy for a second that SHE doesn't remember the rest of frozen love, I think that she was honestly trying to start him off , but he just didn't remember, so she covered, buy saying the same thing. What does every body think ? Discuss~ :) :shrug:

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 12:57 AM
Well, I was standing about six feet from them and the distinct impression I got was that he was up for it and she was not.

ontheEdgeof17
09-13-2005, 12:59 AM
Well, I was standing about six feet from them and the distinct impression I got was that he was up for it and she was not.


Heaven forbid she'd go off the cuff and sing something that hasn't been rehearsed over and over.

EnchantedSLN
09-13-2005, 01:02 AM
I think she just really didn't remember, OR didn't want to do it on the fly like that... she is nervous enough about adding new songs to a setlist when she can rehearse them at her leisure, let alone on the spot in front of an audience for a televised taping.

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 01:03 AM
Heaven forbid she'd go off the cuff and sing something that hasn't been rehearsed over and over.
Yup. :nod: Plus Stevie was very careful to make sure it was Lindsey's night. To be there that evening was something else. I was totally blown away by his performance. From what I'm hearing, the PBS show doesn't do that evening justice. It's too bad.

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 01:06 AM
I think she just really didn't remember, OR didn't want to do it on the fly like that...

She remembered. :nod: There was no way she was doing that vocal impromptu. I can't say that I blame her, especially with that long note she holds in the last verse when she sings "It may be ha ah arrrrrd to keep up with you."

Phoenix
09-13-2005, 01:11 AM
She remembered. :nod: There was no way she was doing that vocal impromptu. I can't say that I blame her, especially with that long note she holds in the last verse when she sings "It may be ha ah arrrrrd to keep up with you."


So, just to clarify, she remembered, but was not up for doing it, and he was up for doing it, but just didnt remember! :laugh: :laugh: How VERY stevie and lindsy of them, Yin and Yang till the end! :lol:

paperflowers
09-13-2005, 01:27 AM
Ill bet Stevie knows the words but like it has been said she dared not sing it on the fly...not her style.
I heard that she kinda whispered them as a warm up to the boston doc. Anyone hear this?

EnchantedSLN
09-13-2005, 01:49 AM
She remembered. :nod:

You think so? She hasn't done it live since the white album tour, and even then it was an anomaly. She wouldn't have an excuse to know it well enough to perform it on the spot, and I doubt she listens to her own music nearly as often as we do (I wonder if she has a burned copy of BN laying around anyway. Maybe she's only got it on vinyl, so there's even less of a chance she'd actually play it very often :lol: ) Sometimes it surprises me how fuzzy Stevie is on the details of her own career... she often flubs the years of her tours and album releases, but then she doesn't study and obsess over that stuff like we do.

The idea that she would have deliberately stopped so as to not take the focus off of Lindsey doesn't really make sense to me... Stevie shines on that song, but if anything he shines far more. She may have written it, but I think Lindsey owns that song. He sings most of the melody and plays that killer guitar. Stevie essentially just sings backup on it, except for the one verse.

I think it's possible she really doesn't remember. Long nets of white, etc ;). But, I agree... it's more likely that she just didn't want to do it spontaneously.

trackaghost
09-13-2005, 04:25 AM
Is Lindsy even a real name?

ThePenguin
09-13-2005, 07:25 AM
Is Lindsy even a real name?


Anything is a real name these days. :rolleyes:

-Lis

danax6
09-13-2005, 07:40 AM
Now, mind you, I've never before heard a live performance of Frozen Love (would love to though!), but it sounded to me she had the wrong melody going on. And she wasn't even singing the part she sings on the album. Was that something that they did live, like that? Or is another clue that Stevie had no clue what the heck she was doing? :laugh:

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 08:45 AM
Yup. :nod: Plus Stevie was very careful to make sure it was Lindsey's night. To be there that evening was something else. I was totally blown away by his performance. From what I'm hearing, the PBS show doesn't do that evening justice. It's too bad.


He was great that night.

I think La Nicks knows all the verses of FL, esp. since people were shouting them out loud :laugh: I think if he had wanted to play it, she would have though. I think they were kidding around with each other and obviously LB liked it or he would have axed it from the final copy.

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 08:47 AM
Now, mind you, I've never before heard a live performance of Frozen Love (would love to though!), but it sounded to me she had the wrong melody going on. And she wasn't even singing the part she sings on the album. Was that something that they did live, like that? Or is another clue that Stevie had no clue what the heck she was doing? :laugh:

There is a live version from Fritz floating around. Also, she sang the right thing and in what sounded like the original key or close to it :eek:

chiliD
09-13-2005, 08:52 AM
Is Lindsy even a real name?


I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat...an "e"

danax6
09-13-2005, 09:11 AM
There is a live version from Fritz floating around. Also, she sang the right thing and in what sounded like the original key or close to it :eek:Cool, I have to find me that live version then. If that's the case, I do think she remembered the rest quite well, but she just didn't want to go on. :p

Alison
09-13-2005, 09:29 AM
I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat...an "e"

ChiliD, You just crack me up. Thanks for the great chuckle this morning. :o :o

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 11:23 AM
You think so? She hasn't done it live since the white album tour, and even then it was an anomaly. She wouldn't have an excuse to know it well enough to perform it on the spot, and I doubt she listens to her own music nearly as often as we do (I wonder if she has a burned copy of BN laying around anyway. Maybe she's only got it on vinyl, so there's even less of a chance she'd actually play it very often :lol: ) Sometimes it surprises me how fuzzy Stevie is on the details of her own career... she often flubs the years of her tours and album releases, but then she doesn't study and obsess over that stuff like we do.

The idea that she would have deliberately stopped so as to not take the focus off of Lindsey doesn't really make sense to me... Stevie shines on that song, but if anything he shines far more. She may have written it, but I think Lindsey owns that song. He sings most of the melody and plays that killer guitar. Stevie essentially just sings backup on it, except for the one verse.

I think it's possible she really doesn't remember. Long nets of white, etc ;). But, I agree... it's more likely that she just didn't want to do it spontaneously.

The guitar part at the end is a personal fave of mine. It also reminds me just a bit of The Chain ( a glimpse of things to come).
Just the way she said it, her body language, etc. told me that Ms. Nicks was telling one of her little fibs.

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 11:24 AM
Is Lindsy even a real name?

I guess it could be.

ontheEdgeof17
09-13-2005, 11:25 AM
Just the way she said it, her body language, etc. told me that Ms. Nicks was telling one of her little fibs.


She sings it at home, alone...at her piano....just like all of her other songs.

David
09-13-2005, 11:25 AM
There is a live version from Fritz floating around. I don't think it's Fritz, strand. I think it's Fleetwood Mac in 1975 (the two live recordings going around).

As far as doing this majorly orchestrated song off the cuff right there in front of a camera . . . come on! No way. Stevie doesn't remember words, Lindsey doesn't remember guitar arrangements, & the rest of the band probably doesn't even know the chord progression.

I think it was just a fun little moment, spurred by a card-carrying member of the RIAA with a belligerent streak.

I mean, these two sat there with Mark & Brian at the KLOS studios not very long ago, & Mark & Brian asked them to play stuff, & these two just sat there, unable to think of anything to play & sing together except for the stuff they had been doing on tour all year: Big Love & Never Going Back Again.

In one sense, I was just flabbergasted: these two had been singing & playing together professionally for about thirty years at that point, & couldn't perform anything simply & off the cuff?!

In another, I wasn't surprised at all. Buckingham & Nicks -- "we'll play for you IF it's a song we're doing on tour this year anyway."

Sheryl Crow & others (Michael Stipe, etc.) used to say, when hanging out with Lindsey, how he could just play anything, & I always used to wonder just how they'd know, since I couldn't imagine Mr. Anal actually just jamming with other people in the room.

They (Stevie & Lindsey) are just both really bizarre people: she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon), & he's been playing guitar for about fifty years, & can't think of anything to play during a casual interview at a radio station. Extremely bizarre. . . .

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 11:29 AM
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As far as doing this majorly orchestrated song off the cuff right there in front of a camera . . . come on! No way. Stevie doesn't remember words, Lindsey doesn't remember guitar arrangements, & the rest of the band probably doesn't even know the chord progression.


Case in point: Don't Let Me Down Again from the Madison show May 2004. And they'd rehearsed that.

chiliD
09-13-2005, 11:30 AM
Mr. Anal

:lol:


In the Casa De Chili household, he's known as "Mr. Whiney". :laugh:

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 11:30 AM
I don't think it's Fritz, strand. I think it's Fleetwood Mac in 1975 (the two live recordings going around).

As far as doing this majorly orchestrated song off the cuff right there in front of a camera . . . come on! No way. Stevie doesn't remember words, Lindsey doesn't remember guitar arrangements, & the rest of the band probably doesn't even know the chord progression.

I think it was just a fun little moment, spurred by a card-carrying member of the RIAA with a belligerent streak.

I mean, these two sat there with Mark & Brian at the KLOS studios not very long ago, & Mark & Brian asked them to play stuff, & these two just sat there, unable to think of anything to play & sing together except for the stuff they had been doing on tour all year: Big Love & Never Going Back Again.

In one sense, I was just flabbergasted: these two had been singing & playing together professionally for about thirty years at that point, & couldn't perform anything simply & off the cuff?!

In another, I wasn't surprised at all. Buckingham & Nicks -- "we'll play for you IF it's a song we're doing on tour this year anyway."

Sheryl Crow & others (Michael Stipe, etc.) used to say, when hanging out with Lindsey, how he could just play anything, & I always used to wonder just how they'd know, since I couldn't imagine Mr. Anal actually just jamming with other people in the room.

They (Stevie & Lindsey) are just both really bizarre people: she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon), & he's been playing guitar for about fifty years, & can't think of anything to play during a casual interview at a radio station. Extremely bizarre. . . .

The long term effects of smoking too much good weed? :laugh:

mikeschmike
09-13-2005, 11:39 AM
It reminds me of the Sara snippet from Storytellers. I listen to that, and I'm just like "What the hell are you playing, crazy woman?" You'd think she'd know the notes/lyrics.

sodascouts
09-13-2005, 12:07 PM
Well, I was standing about six feet from them and the distinct impression I got was that he was up for it and she was not.

He may have been up for it vocally, but there was no way he was going to be able to play that song on his guitar. He's said before it's a "Weird tuning" and that's why they dropped it. You'll notice he kind of touches his guitar as if he's trying to figure out how to accompany her but not quite sure. He might have figured something out but it would have been difficult, a strum he can only hope is on key.

The lines she sung were not the melody of the song. That was Lindsey's verse so I'm not surprised she remembers a harmony-line type. But considering Stevie sometimes gets confused on what verses to sing on regulars like Stand Back and Rhiannon, I Wouldn't be surprised if she got paranoid about doing the whole thing. Remember the fiasco where she tried to do It's Only Love with Sheryl impromptu, and that was something she had just recorded!

That said, I do think that even if she had been confident about the lyrics, she might not have been confident about pulling off the vocal. Understandable, considering her reduced range. As much as we would have loved her to do it, I can't condemn her for choosing not to.

skcin
09-13-2005, 12:12 PM
...she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon). . . .


That? Is the funniest thing I've read in a long while. :nod:

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 12:27 PM
. . . The lines she sung were not the melody of the song. That was Lindsey's verse so I'm not surprised she remembers a harmony-line type . . . .

It sounded like the melody to me? In that part of the song, there is no harmony - just LB? LA Nicks joins in with "go forward" :shrug:

sodascouts
09-13-2005, 12:48 PM
It sounded like the melody to me? In that part of the song, there is no harmony - just LB? LA Nicks joins in with "go forward" :shrug:

As a BuckinghamNicks-ologist, I can assure you it is not the melody. ;) It's weird, because in the audience I thought it was. Then, listening to it on the tape, I realize it's not. Funny how the mind plays tricks!

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 12:53 PM
As a BuckinghamNicks-ologist, I can assure you it is not the melody. ;) It's weird, because in the audience I thought it was. Then, listening to it on the tape, I realize it's not. Funny how the mind plays tricks!

I played it on my piano :shrug: She is not belting it like LB did and the timing is not the same as the original. But, she is singing the melody. But, to each their own.

JazmenFlowers
09-13-2005, 12:56 PM
whatever the final say is...I still think it was cool that she did that

amber
09-13-2005, 12:57 PM
I mean, these two sat there with Mark & Brian at the KLOS studios not very long ago, & Mark & Brian asked them to play stuff, & these two just sat there, unable to think of anything to play & sing together except for the stuff they had been doing on tour all year: Big Love & Never Going Back Again.

In one sense, I was just flabbergasted: these two had been singing & playing together professionally for about thirty years at that point, & couldn't perform anything simply & off the cuff?!

In another, I wasn't surprised at all. Buckingham & Nicks -- "we'll play for you IF it's a song we're doing on tour this year anyway."

Sheryl Crow & others (Michael Stipe, etc.) used to say, when hanging out with Lindsey, how he could just play anything, & I always used to wonder just how they'd know, since I couldn't imagine Mr. Anal actually just jamming with other people in the room.

They (Stevie & Lindsey) are just both really bizarre people: she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon), & he's been playing guitar for about fifty years, & can't think of anything to play during a casual interview at a radio station. Extremely bizarre. . . .

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Priceless.

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 12:59 PM
David

Didn't La Nicks have to coax LB into playing in that interview. I always though that was a proceless moment. She was like "Come on play it" or something like that.

Also, you may be right about FL being FM - but I always thought it was not because I cannot hear CM in it. But, it is a very bad recording.

David
09-13-2005, 01:19 PM
David

Didn't La Nicks have to coax LB into playing in that interview. I always though that was a proceless moment. She was like "Come on play it" or something like that.Yep! And it was -- Never Going Back Again!! which he had been playing a lot at that time (the Cradle tour, all the Cradle press). Boy, he really goes out on a limb!
Also, you may be right about FL being FM - but I always thought it was not because I cannot hear CM in it. But, it is a very bad recording.It's a pretty rotten recording, but you can hear Chris play the Hammond B3 in it -- nobody else plays the Hammond quite so . . . plainly.

chris was sort of trying to "paraphrase" (tm. Lindsey) the string arrangement on the studio track, or actually not even paraphrase it -- she was just holding down chords.

Still, it worked. It sounded pretty. Stevie sang both verses I have a hunch because it's a little technically heavy to be the only guitarist & have to play "Frozen Love" & to sing a verse on top of that is pretty gutbusting: it's like patting your head, rubbing your tummy, stomping your foot & whistling "Dixie" at the same time.

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 01:23 PM
. . . it's like patting your head, rubbing your tummy, stomping your foot & whistling "Dixie" at the same time.


LOL - I can do that and not spill my cocktail :eek:

Thanks for the info :wavey:

EnchantedSLN
09-13-2005, 02:40 PM
It sounded like the melody to me? In that part of the song, there is no harmony - just LB? LA Nicks joins in with "go forward" :shrug:

Lyrically she's singing the melody, but not musically.

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 02:41 PM
Lyrically she's singing the melody, but not musically.

No, she is singing it musically as well. She changes it a little, but it would still be considered the melody. In the end, I no longer care :laugh:

sodascouts
09-13-2005, 02:46 PM
Also, you may be right about FL being FM - but I always thought it was not because I cannot hear CM in it. But, it is a very bad recording.

I believe one of the versions (I only know of two) is dated San Diego 1975. On one you can also hear John introduce it - or at least someone with a British accent. Regardless Fritz never played it because it wasn't written yet - but you probably meant BN. They did play it but sadly no version they did is in circulation. You know what? I might try to post those this week and we can do some analyzing. It'll be fun!

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 02:47 PM
I believe one of the versions (I only know of two) is dated San Diego 1975. On one you can also hear John introduce it - or at least someone with a British accent. Regardless Fritz never played it because it wasn't written yet - but you probably meant BN. They did play it but sadly no version they did is in circulation. You know what? I might try to post those this week and we can do some analyzing. It'll be fun!

Cool - because my copy is pretty bad.

Also, yes I meant BN :cool:

sodascouts
09-13-2005, 02:50 PM
Cool - because my copy is pretty bad.

Sadly, mine is too. :(

Also, yes I meant BN :cool:

That's what I figured. :)

EnchantedSLN
09-13-2005, 02:50 PM
I believe one of the versions (I only know of two) is dated San Diego 1975. On one you can also hear John introduce it - or at least someone with a British accent. Regardless Fritz never played it because it wasn't written yet - but you probably meant BN. They did play it but sadly no version they did is in circulation. You know what? I might try to post those this week and we can do some analyzing. It'll be fun!

The other one is from South Orange, NJ 10/13/75, no?

ontheEdgeof17
09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
The other one is from South Orange, NJ 10/13/75, no?

Does Stevie sing both verses on this version? It's such a bad quality, I can't tell who is who.

sodascouts
09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
The other one is from South Orange, NJ 10/13/75, no?

Hmm, that might be the one with the ID then, not San Diego. My memory is terrible and I'm at work (Yes, I visit the Ledge during my office hours lol).

AliceLover
09-13-2005, 03:13 PM
You think so? She hasn't done it live since the white album tour, and even then it was an anomaly. She wouldn't have an excuse to know it well enough to perform it on the spot, and I doubt she listens to her own music nearly as often as we do (I wonder if she has a burned copy of BN laying around anyway. Maybe she's only got it on vinyl, so there's even less of a chance she'd actually play it very often :lol: ) Sometimes it surprises me how fuzzy Stevie is on the details of her own career... she often flubs the years of her tours and album releases, but then she doesn't study and obsess over that stuff like we do.
The idea that she would have deliberately stopped so as to not take the focus off of Lindsey doesn't really make sense to me... Stevie shines on that song, but if anything he shines far more. She may have written it, but I think Lindsey owns that song. He sings most of the melody and plays that killer guitar. Stevie essentially just sings backup on it, except for the one verse.

I think it's possible she really doesn't remember. Long nets of white, etc ;). But, I agree... it's more likely that she just didn't want to do it spontaneously.

Remembering a tour date is far different then remembering the lyrics to this song. This is a song she poured her heart into, a song that she loved and that was very intimate that she put out to share with the world. I have no doubt that she knew the words.

danax6
09-13-2005, 03:19 PM
I don't think it's Fritz, strand. I think it's Fleetwood Mac in 1975 (the two live recordings going around).

As far as doing this majorly orchestrated song off the cuff right there in front of a camera . . . come on! No way. Stevie doesn't remember words, Lindsey doesn't remember guitar arrangements, & the rest of the band probably doesn't even know the chord progression.
Indeed, playing something off the cuff like that is all fine and dandy when you are at home or in a recording studio jamming away. But in front of an audience *and* a camera. Not a good idea. ;)

UndoingTheLaces
09-13-2005, 06:02 PM
I remember years ago in the late 80's reading an interview with Donna Summer about how she was launching a new tour and had to go back an re-learn all her old songs because she had forgotten them. I thought at the time that is was an odd thing since she had recorded them and sang them on tour before. But having been a singer/songwriter (not profesionally, though) for many years, I look at the stuff I'd written in 93 now, and try to sing it off the cuff and I'm lucky I can remember half of the lyrics! Some songs stick with you longer than others and just because you wrote a song and even had a strong affection for it at the time, does not mean you will always have that affection for it. There are a few songs I've written that I just cringe when I hear them. I think "wow, this was really trite" or "why did I write a song about dolphins?" LOL! So, I don't blame them for not knowing a song they wrote 30 years ago, many lovers, bong hits, pills, rehabs, concerts, albums, and tours ago.

DavidMn
09-13-2005, 08:12 PM
I think she just really didn't remember, OR didn't want to do it on the fly like that... she is nervous enough about adding new songs to a setlist when she can rehearse them at her leisure, let alone on the spot in front of an audience for a televised taping.
I agree. Wish I wouldve been there to see that performance. Had to be back to work though. Oh well.

tlssln
09-13-2005, 08:34 PM
So, just to clarify, she remembered, but was not up for doing it, and he was up for doing it, but just didnt remember! :laugh: :laugh: How VERY stevie and lindsy of them, Yin and Yang till the end! :lol:

LOL. Sounds about right.

SapphireSister
09-13-2005, 09:18 PM
I just watched it...my interpretation is that she was totally up to do it but honestly didn't remember and got a sense from him it wasn't happening so she went with that. He did not seem like he wanted to continue and she looked like she would have winged it just for him (even if she didn't remember). Who knows I could be wrong.

Glittermoondust
09-13-2005, 11:05 PM
Remembering a tour date is far different then remembering the lyrics to this song. This is a song she poured her heart into, a song that she loved and that was very intimate that she put out to share with the world. I have no doubt that she knew the words.

There aren't too many lyrics to that song so maybe she did...... I just got through watching my Florida DVD from the Golddust tour and during Gold Dust Woman the camera person shows a close up of a monitor in front of Stevie on stage with the words to the song scrolling.............

SandyMac
09-13-2005, 11:46 PM
I will be the optimist here and guess (yeah right), well maybe I am not the optimist I claim to be but here goes...

Maybe Stevie brought up FL to remind Lindsey how great that song was and how great their harmonies are on those old songs to hopefully release BN on CD.
(Could happen... say in the year... 2015) :rolleyes: :laugh:

SapphireSister
09-13-2005, 11:52 PM
There aren't too many lyrics to that song so maybe she did...... I just got through watching my Florida DVD from the Golddust tour and during Gold Dust Woman the camera person shows a close up of a monitor in front of Stevie on stage with the words to the song scrolling.............

Stevie uses telepromptors for her own songs? :shocked: :shocked:

gldstwmn
09-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Does Stevie sing both verses on this version? It's such a bad quality, I can't tell who is who.

Are we talking about the one with the "I keep searching for you" part?

Ghost_Tracker
09-13-2005, 11:56 PM
I don't think it's Fritz, strand. I think it's Fleetwood Mac in 1975 (the two live recordings going around).

As far as doing this majorly orchestrated song off the cuff right there in front of a camera . . . come on! No way. Stevie doesn't remember words, Lindsey doesn't remember guitar arrangements, & the rest of the band probably doesn't even know the chord progression.

I think it was just a fun little moment, spurred by a card-carrying member of the RIAA with a belligerent streak.

I mean, these two sat there with Mark & Brian at the KLOS studios not very long ago, & Mark & Brian asked them to play stuff, & these two just sat there, unable to think of anything to play & sing together except for the stuff they had been doing on tour all year: Big Love & Never Going Back Again.

In one sense, I was just flabbergasted: these two had been singing & playing together professionally for about thirty years at that point, & couldn't perform anything simply & off the cuff?!

In another, I wasn't surprised at all. Buckingham & Nicks -- "we'll play for you IF it's a song we're doing on tour this year anyway."

Sheryl Crow & others (Michael Stipe, etc.) used to say, when hanging out with Lindsey, how he could just play anything, & I always used to wonder just how they'd know, since I couldn't imagine Mr. Anal actually just jamming with other people in the room.

They (Stevie & Lindsey) are just both really bizarre people: she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon), & he's been playing guitar for about fifty years, & can't think of anything to play during a casual interview at a radio station. Extremely bizarre. . . .

Maybe he didn't feel like it?

By the way, have you ever heard Stevie's stunning, mind-blowing,

incredibly professional piano playing on the demo tape of

"The Tower?"

I'll admit it's not incredibly sophisticated but -

wow. . . .

Ghost_Tracker
09-14-2005, 12:16 AM
Ok, Well I don't DARE post this on the lindsy board, but as many people DID point out, During lindsys soundstage, stevie WAS on her "best behavior" How she kept the focus compleetly all about lindsy, wich was very appropriate, don't get me wrong, but I don't buy for a second that SHE doesn't remember the rest of frozen love, I think that she was honestly trying to start him off , but he just didn't remember, so she covered, buy saying the same thing. What does every body think ? Discuss~ :) :shrug:


I think she must have remembered - - -

especially considering that the next line is,

"It may be hard to keep up with me,

but I'll ALWAYS be able to reach you!"

And is about how they would find a way to be together,

no matter what happened in their relationship or whatever.

And they RHYME for crying out loud! :lol:

And I saw a publicity photo where the B/N album was on her piano

or something in the background.

Then again, she DOES have those "memory glitches" from time to

time! :lol: :shocked:

What I wanna know is, what did she say to him when she

partially turned her back to the camera after "Say Goodbye" and

looked him right in the eyes???

'Cause to ME it sure looked like,

"I'm still in love with you. . . ."

They sure know how to keep us talkin', don't dey!?? :laugh:

She certainly seemed very nervous and unsure before she said

whatever it was. . . .

Anyway as far as only doing the two lines,

I'm sure she felt that her point had been made.

Thunderously. . . .

Ghost_Tracker
09-14-2005, 12:21 AM
Well, I was standing about six feet from them and the distinct impression I got was that he was up for it and she was not.


So did you hear what she said to him after "Say Goodbye?"

Or is it like, personal or something. . . .


:shrug:

Ghost_Tracker
09-14-2005, 12:23 AM
I agree. Wish I wouldve been there to see that performance. Had to be back to work though. Oh well.


Yeah okay uhmmm . . . These photos are AWESOME!

Except maybe for the one with the security guard looking

like he's about to go all Rambo and start ****ing with her people.

Ghost_Tracker
09-14-2005, 12:27 AM
I just thought of something else! :)

How many people who have posted to this thread,

just ABSOLUTELY LOVE the song "Frozen Love?" ???

YOU know - the one that starts out,

"You may not be as strong as me . . .

and I may not care to teach you.

You may not be able to keep up with me . . .

but I'll ALWAYS be able to reach you!" ?


Yeah - ME too! :)

So, uhmmmm . . .

what's the next line? . . . .

Phoenix
09-14-2005, 01:13 AM
I just thought of something else! :)

How many people who have posted to this thread,

just ABSOLUTELY LOVE the song "Frozen Love?" ???

YOU know - the one that starts out,

"You may not be as strong as me . . .

and I may not care to teach you.

You may not be able to keep up with me . . .

but I'll ALWAYS be able to reach you!"
what's the next line? . . . .

~and if you go forward I'll meet you there ~ :)

David
09-14-2005, 01:19 AM
Maybe he didn't feel like it?Yeah. That's it, PAL.

Phoenix
09-14-2005, 01:20 AM
I just watched it...my interpretation is that she was totally up to do it but honestly didn't remember and got a sense from him it wasn't happening so she went with that. He did not seem like he wanted to continue and she looked like she would have winged it just for him (even if she didn't remember). Who knows I could be wrong.

This is also the impression that I got.Yes, We know stevie can be "sketchy" on details, especially on ANYTHING that happened during or after Rock a little , but Frozen Love was before cocane,before klonopin,rehab,robins death,touring endlessly with fleetwood mac,and before a whole lotta other boyfriends, and We all know that Stevie thinks about one thing to no undying end, and that one thing is LINDSEY FREEKIN BUCKINGHAM :nod: And I am more than sure that she thinks about buckingham nix more often than we think.

Phoenix
09-14-2005, 01:47 AM
I will be the optimist here and guess (yeah right), well maybe I am not the optimist I claim to be but here goes...

Maybe Stevie brought up FL to remind Lindsey how great that song was and how great their harmonies are on those old songs to hopefully release BN on CD.
(Could happen... say in the year... 2015) :rolleyes: :laugh:

She does seem to mention that in interviews, but again, as we all know, that means NOTHING. I would just love a new version of this song, but live, not studio, now adays I think Mr. Buckingham tends to over produce. :nod: an acustic version, like they did for gypsy at AHI. :blob2:

Ghost_Tracker
09-14-2005, 05:52 PM
:shrug: I will be the optimist here and guess (yeah right), well maybe I am not the optimist I claim to be but here goes...

Maybe Stevie brought up FL to remind Lindsey how great that song was and how great their harmonies are on those old songs to hopefully release BN on CD.
(Could happen... say in the year... 2015) :rolleyes: :laugh:


Uhmmmm - - - maybe to remind us how great

that song was??? :laugh:

PenguinHead
09-14-2005, 05:59 PM
Now, mind you, I've never before heard a live performance of Frozen Love (would love to though!), but it sounded to me she had the wrong melody going on. And she wasn't even singing the part she sings on the album. Was that something that they did live, like that? Or is another clue that Stevie had no clue what the heck she was doing? :laugh:

In the live version, it's pretty much a Stevie solo vocal. She sings both verses. Lindsey comes in only during the chorus. During the middle part of the song, during the build up for the guitar solo they both sing "I"ve been frozen for you" several times, which isn't in the studio version. That's really cool. Fleetwood Mac performed the song amazingly well. And it sounds like the crowd liked it too.

I always thought that Stevie sang both verses because, given that time and that particular set list, she had the least solo vocals.

sodascouts
09-14-2005, 08:22 PM
As promised previously, the two circulating live Frozen Loves:

Bear with the wretched quality.

Unknown:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovelive.mp3

From South Orange 1975: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovesouthorange75.mp3

(I think they're singing "I've been waiting for you" in the bridge)

And is she singing the melody during Soundstage? You decide.

The snippet from Soundstage:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovesnippetss.mp3

The real deal album version:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlove.mp3

sodascouts
09-14-2005, 08:31 PM
bless your heart :xoxo:


Now, you mean that in the nice way, right? Because I seem to remember you telling me that when Southerners use this expression, they usually mean something else, right?

strandinthewind
09-14-2005, 08:32 PM
Now, you mean that in the nice way, right? Because I seem to remember you telling me that when Southerners use this expression, they usually mean something else, right?

LOL - I meant it in a nice way.

BTW - I deleted the post to avoid an argument :wavey:

ontheEdgeof17
09-14-2005, 08:33 PM
(I think they're singing "I've been waiting for you" in the bridge)




I hear in the first one "I've been searching for you" :shrug: ....maybe

sodascouts
09-14-2005, 08:33 PM
LOL - I meant it in a nice way.

BTW - I deleted the post to avoid an argument :wavey:

That's your right - but it wasn't really argumentative... was it? :confused:

strandinthewind
09-14-2005, 08:35 PM
That's your right - but it wasn't really argumentative... was it? :confused:

Well, you posting soundbytes to prove your point could be seen as presenting an argument - but not in a pejorative manner.

sodascouts
09-14-2005, 08:36 PM
Well, you posting soundbytes to prove your point could be seen as presenting an argument - but not in a pejorative manner.

I said earlier I was going to - I thought it would be fun to listen to them and compare. :shrug:

strandinthewind
09-14-2005, 08:37 PM
I said earlier I was going to - I thought it would be fun to listen to them and compare. :shrug:


I agree - I am using the classic definition of "argument" - the presentation of ideas, etc. I am not saying it with derision.

sodascouts
09-14-2005, 08:37 PM
I hear in the first one "I've been searching for you" :shrug: ....maybe

When the quality's this low, it's pretty much anybody's guess.

gldstwmn
09-14-2005, 11:28 PM
So did you hear what she said to him after "Say Goodbye?"

Or is it like, personal or something. . . .


:shrug:

Her back was to me.

gldstwmn
09-14-2005, 11:31 PM
(I think they're singing "I've been waiting for you" in the bridge)



I think it's "I've been searching for you." :shrug:

Phoenix
09-14-2005, 11:58 PM
As promised previously, the two circulating live Frozen Loves:

Bear with the wretched quality.

Unknown:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovelive.mp3

From South Orange 1975: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovesouthorange75.mp3

(I think they're singing "I've been waiting for you" in the bridge)

And is she singing the melody during Soundstage? You decide.

The snippet from Soundstage:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlovesnippetss.mp3

The real deal album version:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~nkerns/MP3/frozenlove.mp3

Those two live versions were awsome I LOVE when stevie sings her songs, and lindsy yes, sings harmony, but does what he does best IMHO play the guitar, too bad, they arent better qualitty.

paperflowers
09-15-2005, 05:46 AM
i hear ...ive been searching for you....regardless this song stands as of one my all time favorites ...those words... that guitar.. the harmony... leaves me breathless. perfection.

xxxmx
09-15-2005, 11:18 AM
i'm chiming in a little late, but hey...

as i sat grinning on my couch at 5AM watching SS the first time it aired down here (damn WEDU's schedule!), my little heart STOPPED as soon as i saw her lips move in the direction of Frozen Love. i can't imagine what it must have been like standing in the audience, not knowing the setlist and what was going to happen. ps - is that nancy in the front row? that was the look on my face, too. open mouth, bulging eyes, clasping hands, total... something.

the look on his face is priceless. i would KILL to hear what they were saying onstage. i can pick out most of it on their lips, it's not much, but i really wish he'd said something other than "great two-part harmonies" afterwards. something along the lines of... nope, way too shipper for this board ;)

even my dad commented on that little exchange.

Raeven Skye
09-15-2005, 12:19 PM
after listening to the snippet of soundstage, it almost sounds like she was singing it like she'd sing it now...like say...alone in her home, or with an intimate audience...i think it sounds on-key, in that "adult" Stevie way...

StevieRox2
09-15-2005, 03:21 PM
I've watched that little exchange a few times now, and there definitely are some feelings going on in that conversation, just wish I knew what was said!! Shipper mode on!

Phoenix
09-16-2005, 01:18 AM
after listening to the snippet of soundstage, it almost sounds like she was singing it like she'd sing it now...like say...alone in her home, or with an intimate audience...i think it sounds on-key, in that "adult" Stevie way...


I would love to hear her sing it now, I think of how much I love the newer version of crystal, and with the new falseto she seems to have discovered (I.E. Sorcerer, deep dish Dreams remix.) I think stevie could do a cool version of it now. And yes, Lindsy has allways been an amazing guitar player, but he really seems to be at the top of his game now. I think they could rock that song! :]

Ghost_Tracker
09-17-2005, 09:06 PM
i'm chiming in a little late, but hey...

as i sat grinning on my couch at 5AM watching SS the first time it aired down here (damn WEDU's schedule!), my little heart STOPPED as soon as i saw her lips move in the direction of Frozen Love. i can't imagine what it must have been like standing in the audience, .

i would KILL to hear what they were saying onstage. i can pick out most of it on their lips,
even my dad commented on that little exchange.


Scuse me whozaWHATNOW!??? you "can pick out most of it on

their lips???"

What did she SAAAAAYYYYY!!!????

TELL us please, we're DYING here!!!!!! LOL!

:rolleyes:

StreetAngel86
09-23-2005, 09:38 AM
They (Stevie & Lindsey) are just both really bizarre people: she's been playing the piano for thirty or forty years, & plays at exactly the same level today as she did thirty years ago (which is probably a medical phenomenon), & he's been playing guitar for about fifty years, & can't think of anything to play during a casual interview at a radio station. Extremely bizarre. . . .



:lol: :eek: OHMG
i think Stevie'e piano skills are

A: definitely weed induced
B: completely purposely non high tech as not to overshadow THE MASTER

:p

StreetAngel86
09-23-2005, 10:00 AM
after listening to the snippet of soundstage, it almost sounds like she was singing it like she'd sing it now...like say...alone in her home, or with an intimate audience...i think it sounds on-key, in that "adult" Stevie way...

intimate hey............as in a one on one?
In the still of the night :eek: