"Out of the Cradle" SURVIVOR ROUNDS 1-3

[rezamatic]

The Rules:

Please familiarize yourself with these rules because these are the standards by which votes will be counted.


The way the hosts post: We will always post official results in the same manner (+4 Red) and our goal is to make it easy for you guys to follow what’s going on. So if you’re confused, look for our posts. We will announce a) when the voting period has begun and ended b) who has immunity and c) results.

VOTING:

- Voting periods begin AFTER immunity is assigned and ends at 5:59 EST that night. Either sodascouts or I will post an official beginning and ending announcement. If your votes are before or after those posts, then they do not count. See below for how immunity works.

- When you vote, type 1) The round number and 2) the name of the song in your subject line and ONLY that. We will tally the votes by the subject line, so if it ain’t in the subject it doesn’t count!
- Votes can NOT be changed once they’re posted. We count your first vote and that is all.

- If there is a tiebreaker, then ALL votes from ALL previous rounds are tallied and whoever has the most prior votes is eliminated. That’s the way it’s done on the real show, that’s the way it’s done here. If there is a complete tie with prior votes (Murphy’s Law), then we’ll have a sudden-death immunity question ready which will allow someone to make the call themselves between those two (or more) songs.

IMMUNITY:

- After we tally the scores, we will announce the results and post an immunity question/puzzle/etc. and await a response post. In order to be considered, the answering post must contain both the following: 1) the correct answer and 2) the choice for immunity. When we get that post, it will then be VERIFIED by us in bright red letters confirming who has immunity this round. So again, if we haven’t posted, nothing is official! Once we confirm immunity, the voting period begins. There is no immunity question for Round 1; we'll start that on Round 2.

Thanks for playing and have a good time!

The songs for Out of the Cradle survivor are:

- Don't Look Down
- Wrong
- Countdown
- All My Sorrows
- Soul Drifter
- This is the Time
- You Do Or You Don't
- Street of Dreams
- Surrender the Rain
- Doing What I Can
- Turn It on
- This Nearly Was Mine
- Say We'll Meet Again

*Note that we did not count the introduction tracks as candidates.*

Let the games begin!

ROUND 1 BEGINS NOW.

[rezamatic]

The one song I just couldn't stand to get accustomed to. It's too dentist-office-waiting-room for me.

[Neal]

It's this albums 'Family Man', imho...

[wondergirl9847]

My least fave song. I don't hate it, it's just my least fave. :)

[CreepingDeath]

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[dissention]

Love every song in it's own right, but this is the one I'm least attached to. :sorry:

[Nico]

I guarantee this will probably be the easiest part of this Survivor for me. I love this song very much, but the others? They're my babies. :xoxo:

[Mari]

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[Patti]

My least favorite track. I like this song, but I love all the others.

[GateandGarden]

For the same reason Josh gave

[Johnny Stew]

Snooze-alert! The one and only song I skip on the album.

("All My Sorrows" is truly beautiful, but I see it's going to be picked off first. *sighs* :( )

[John Run]

Round 1 - All My Sorrows

[Patti]

Snooze-alert! The one and only song I skip on the album.
:( )

Street of Dreams????? I'm shocked! :shocked:

[Johnny Stew]

Street of Dreams????? I'm shocked! :shocked:I know. :o
It's funny -- there are only a measly two Lindsey songs that I don't care for, and they both happen to be songs that pretty much everyone else feels are among his very best. :shrug:

I should have been smarter and voted against "Say We'll Meet Again" though -- would have spared "All My Sorrows" for at least one round.

[sodascouts]

There are no bad songs on this album, but like others, there's a least favorite and this is it for me. Apparently not for anyone else, though. lol

[sodascouts]

'Doing What I Can'

It's this albums 'Family Man', imho...

Neal, remember to put the song title in the subject line for it to be counted. :)

[sodascouts]

Round 1 - All My Sorrows

Don't forget to put your vote in the subject line for it to be counted! :)

[AliceLover]

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[Karlie]

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[Neal]

Neal, remember to put the song title in the subject line for it to be counted. :)

Done. :wavey:

:sorry:

[golden braid]

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[Mari]

I'm probably too late to save it, but I dug up the Kingston Trio's version of All My Sorrows anyway for anyone to hear. I think LB did a great job on it, I love it. Sorry to see it go :(

All My Sorrows (http://s54.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2VX9B0Z8PY8081RW26SHH58F4K)

[trackaghost]

Gotta go with my heart and Soul Drifter is the most bland track I think.

[ontheEdgeof17]

....soon forgotten.

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

I don't really care for that one .

[shackin'up]

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[msLinds]

Its important to remember that nobody
falls into a simple set of labels

:wavey:

[rezamatic]

I'm probably too late to save it, but I dug up the Kingston Trio's version of All My Sorrows anyway for anyone to hear. I think LB did a great job on it, I love it. Sorry to see it go :(

All My Sorrows (http://s54.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2VX9B0Z8PY8081RW26SHH58F4K)

Wow, I LOVE Lindsey's version compared to this. I think they chose all the wrong harmonies in this original version... Lindsey's just seems a lot more emotional/powerful than this.

[AliP]

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[Mari]

Wow, I LOVE Lindsey's version compared to this. I think they chose all the wrong harmonies in this original version... Lindsey's just seems a lot more emotional/powerful than this.

I love John Stewart and a lot of the old Kingston Trio stuff, but yes, Lindsey's version was definitely an improvement :)
Especially live.. that power of understatement, you know.

[Dark Angel]

Though I have a feeling I'm probably late.

[sodascouts]

Results for Round 1


All My Sorrows – 10
Say We’ll Meet Again – 3
Soul Drifter – 3
Surrender the Rain – 2
Wrong – 2
Doing What I Can – 1
Street of Dreams – 1
This is the Time – 1

With a landslide of 10 votes, “All My Sorrows� is the first song eliminated from Out of the Cradle survivor. “All My Sorrows,� please leave the tribal council area immediately. The rest of you may return to the camp.

Breakdown of Votes:
All My Sorrows – wondergirl9847
All My Sorrows – Nico
All My Sorrows – Patti
All My Sorrows – Karlie
All My Sorrows – golden braid
All My Sorrows – ontheEdgeof17
All My Sorrows – LINDSEY#1FAN
All My Sorrows – shackin’up
All My Sorrows – AliP
All My Sorrows – Dark Angel
Say We’ll Meet Again – CreepingDeath
Say We’ll Meet Again – Mari
Say We’ll Meet Again – msLinds
Soul Drifter – trackaghost
Soul Drifter – Lux
Soul Drifter – ReFleetwoodMac
Surrender the Rain – rezamatic
Surrender the Rain – AliceLover
Wrong – dissention
Wrong – GateandGarden
Doing What I Can – Neal
Street of Dreams – Johnny Stew
This is the Time – sodascouts



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The songs in play:
Don't Look Down
Wrong
Countdown
Soul Drifter
This is the Time
You Do Or You Don't
Street of Dreams
Surrender the Rain
Doing What I Can
Turn It on
This Nearly Was Mine
Say We'll Meet Again

Voted off:
All My Sorrows 09/10/05

Immunity:
What song on OOTC was a favorite of Lindsey’s father?

[trackaghost]

[COLOR=Red]Immunity:
What song on OOTC was a favorite of Lindsey’s father?



This Nearly Was Mine!

Immunity for Say We'll Meet Again

[John Run]

Immunity: This Nearly Was Mine, Song Choice: Soul Drifter



Soul Dirfter is not my favorite but the genius of the opening dulcimer sounds which are actually multiple VSO'd electric guitars needs to be saved a little longer

[trackaghost]

I was first!

[sodascouts]

This Nearly Was Mine!

Immunity for Say We'll Meet Again

Yep!

SAY WE'LL MEET AGAIN is immune.

BEGIN ROUND 2!

[CreepingDeath]

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[trackaghost]

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[Sugar]

.................

[Miss Vicky]

It's good, but it's an instrumental and he didn't write it.

[GateandGarden]

I know this won't do any good just like it didn't in the first round but oh well. I don't want to vote for any of the others first.

[wondergirl9847]

GAH!!! This is toooooooooooo hard!!!!!!! :distress:

[Patti]

This is going to be the hardest Survivor EVER!

[Dark Angel]

This is already too hard. :distress:

[golden braid]

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[rezamatic]

I'm going to forget about strategy and vote for "Surrender the Rain" again because I just can't seem to vote to for any of the others!

[Mari]

still weeping about All My Sorrowshttp://www.forosdelweb.com/images/smilies/chillando.gif

[shackin'up]

way too early but if Turn it on is going I'll be stuck under 2000 posts and never return.......

[ontheEdgeof17]

Still a great tune. :cool:

[Hawkeye]

I loved All My Sorrows!

[dissention]

C'mon, let's get of this one.

[msLinds]

Round 2 : Turn It On.



Its important to remember that nobody falls into
a simpler set of labels.

:wavey:

[Mari]

way too early but if Turn it on is going I'll be stuck under 2000 posts and never return.......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/elconi13/esmilis/yikes.gif
Don't say things like that! Het Is Maar Een Spelletje!

Now why is it I have such a strong déjÃ* vu feeling about this game? How long ago was it really that we did this last time? (will look myself, ok, ok)

[wondergirl9847]

This is THE most difficult Survivor EVER! I don't wanna vote off any of these, I love them all, but if this is a ranking situation, Turn It On comes towards the end, sorry. :shrug:

[sodascouts]

Sorry, Gerald, but Soul Drifter is special to me.

[sodascouts]

Results for Round 2


Turn It On – 6
Soul Drifter – 5
Surrender the Rain – 2
Wrong – 2
Doing What I Can – 1
This Nearly Was Mine – 1

It was close, but with 6 votes, “Turn It On� is the second song eliminated from Out of the Cradle survivor. “Turn It On,� please leave the tribal council area immediately. The rest of you may return to the camp.

Breakdown of Votes:
Turn It On – wondergirl9847
Turn It On – Patti
Turn It On – Dark Angel
Turn It On – ontheEdgeof17
Turn It On – msLinds
Turn It On – sodascouts

Soul Drifter – CreepingDeath
Soul Drifter – trackaghost
Soul Drifter – Lux
Soul Drifter – Mari
Soul Drifter – shackin’ up

Surrender the Rain – rezamatic
Surrender the Rain – Hawkeye

Wrong – dissention
Wrong – GateandGarden

Doing What I Can – golden braid

This Nearly Was Mine – Miss Vicky


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The songs in play:
Don't Look Down
Wrong
Countdown
Soul Drifter
This is the Time
You Do Or You Don't
Street of Dreams
Surrender the Rain
Doing What I Can
This Nearly Was Mine
Say We'll Meet Again

Voted off:
All My Sorrows 09/10/05
Turn It On 9/11/05

Immunity:
How did Lindsey and the co-writer of Say We’ll Meet Again first work together professionally, and what were their respective roles?

[shackin'up]

:distress:

nancy, hosting the game and pull the trigger on my fave in the last minutes of the round feels apart from sour, also a little unchique, can you imagine?

[dissention]

Immunity:
How did Lindsey and the co-writer of Say We’ll Meet Again first work together professionally, and what were their respective roles?


They were in Fritz together. Aguirre was the drummer, Lindsey was the bassist.

Immunity to Doing What I Can.

[sodascouts]

They were in Fritz together. Aguirre was the drummer, Lindsey was the bassist.

Immunity to Doing What I Can.

Correct.

DOING WHAT I CAN is immune.

BEGIN ROUND 3!

[sodascouts]

:distress:

nancy, hosting the game and pull the trigger on my fave in the last minutes of the round feels apart from sour, also a little unchique, can you imagine?

Nothing personal. I almost forgot to vote - I've had a lot on my mind lately - and only when I was tallying did I see that I needed to. Don't be too sad, Gerald. All the songs here are good - we can't lose! :)

[ontheEdgeof17]

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[shackin'up]

congrats, diss. I knew that. But I had to ventilate my dissapointment first.
I guess the ledge has been very dissapointing for me the last couple of weeks. I may take a long long break. Nothing to do with survivorgames. I guess it has something to do with cultureclashes.

Shut us down?

[sodascouts]

It's had its immunity question, now it can leave. lol

[dissention]

congrats, diss. I knew that. But I had to ventilate my dissapointment first.
I guess the ledge has been very dissapointing for me the last couple of weeks. I may take a long long break. Nothing to do with survivorgames. I guess it has something to do with cultureclashes.

Shut us down?

Well, if it's any consolation, I now love Shut Us Down. :laugh: I burned it to a CD and played it on my stereo while I was cleaning the house this afternoon and it grew on me.

You don't have to anywhere, though, especially since more Lindsey fans will be seeing/hearing Soundstage soon and we'll be able to discuss it more, and we have the Survivor game to play. :)

[sodascouts]

congrats, diss. I knew that. But I had to ventilate my dissapointment first.
I guess the ledge has been very dissapointing for me the last couple of weeks. I may take a long long break. Nothing to do with survivorgames. I guess it has something to do with cultureclashes.

Shut us down?

You can't leave in the middle of the game! What about when we get to GOS Survivor? Who's going to fight for Given Thing?

[CreepingDeath]

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[trackaghost]

Isn't this gone already?
Please join me in the fight against bland Lindsey!
People are you with me?

[wondergirl9847]

Immunity to Doing What I Can.

My fave song on the album. Thanks! :xoxo:

[wondergirl9847]

I too love Souldrifter like nobody's business and it will be played at my funeral.

SWMA, I love it so much, and what a terrific way to close an album, but I guess I'll go with this one next. :(

[Sugar]

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[strandinthewind]

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[Patti]

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[DownOnRodeo]

Say We'll Meet Again

[John Run]

Of the songs left it will have to go. Shame on each of you who voted out Turn it On. Go to the coner and think about what you have done!

[sodascouts]

Say We'll Meet Again

Hi Joe! Don't forget to put the vote in the subject line for it to be counted!

[DownOnRodeo]

Thanks for the heads up, Nancy. (Serves me right for joining in halfway through ;) I can't believe that All My Sorrows and Turn It On are gone - two of my top favourites!! :confused: )

[golden braid]

I like Soul Drifter better.

[Dreammms]

:mad: :mad:

OMG!!! I can't believe I already missed two rounds!!!!! How can Turn IT ON be gone already!!!

edit~WOW!! All My Sorrows is gone too??????????

[AliceLover]

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[Dark Angel]

I love Soul Drifter, and have no idea what I'll be voting for next, because I love everything that's left too. :distress:

[LINDSEY#1FAN]

Can't get rid of soul drifter

[Hawkeye]

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[Mari]

And Gerald.. come on, it's getting fun on this board! Just look at the amount of posts, finally some action around here. You can't go away now! *pleads*

[trackaghost]

congrats, diss. I knew that. But I had to ventilate my dissapointment first.
I guess the ledge has been very dissapointing for me the last couple of weeks. I may take a long long break. Nothing to do with survivorgames. I guess it has something to do with cultureclashes.

Shut us down?

Gerald, you're not really going to abandon us are you? :(

The Stevie fanatics will run riot!!!

[DownOnRodeo]

Yeah Gerald. Don't shut us down - stay as long as you can!! ;) :wavey:

[shackin'up]

Well F*ck it. My love for Shut us down and the total ignorance in my direct environment for it drives me towards here. But The Ledge is really getting on my nerves lately. And only a few Ledgies seem to be interested in what I'm interested in. I just miss Seteca, Downonrodeo (so glad you're active over here again), Stefan, Carnevaca AND Carnevaca's ability to squeeze sense out of Diss and Strand.

Even though there are great Ledgies, and you'll all know who I love. But we're such a minority here.


Oh And my favorite OOTC song is Turn it on. But you'll all know what happened to it. I was holding my breath because it was 5-5 and I thought it was through. And then Nancy who was tallying the votes saw that she hadn't vote and pulled the trigger on it. I know it's only a game. But a game that is fun if you have the possibilty to fight for it. No offence Nancy, I'm really fond of you, but it really pissed me off. The drop that made the bucket flow over.

[wondergirl9847]

BECAUSE those guys don't post anymore is only ONE reason you need to stick around. People seem to be dropping like flies.

Dammit. :distress:

[dissention]

AND Carnevaca's ability to squeeze sense out of Diss

Gee, thanks.

[face of glass]

"Soul Drifter" should have been Sinatra's swan song, after all.

[shackin'up]

Gee, thanks.

you know exactly what I mean.

[GateandGarden]

I hate to vote for it but I want to save "Say We'll Meet Again" if that's possible.

And I'm sorry that "Turn it On" went so early. :distress:

[trackaghost]

BECAUSE those guys don't post anymore is only ONE reason you need to stick around. People seem to be dropping like flies.

Dammit. :distress:

I agree. Gerald you need to stick around!

[sodascouts]

You should embrace your differences and find other ways to occupy yourself if you are not interested in taking part in their endless conversations about Stevie's boots and Lindsey leaving his wife for her. Believe me, there are ways.

On the other hand, if people find the numerous discussions on Lindsey's soundstage and new music inadequate for stimulating their gargantuan intellect, perhaps they should find forums more commodious (if they can exist on this earth). Of course if one bases one's self-worth on how many times one can "demonstrate" one's perceived superiority, such an option might appear less appealing. However, it is possible to build one's self esteem without degrading others. Believe me, there are ways.

[Lindsey Jr.]

I must say... it's difficult to say what songs I don't like on ootc, it's one of my favorite non-heavy metal/hardrock albums. :o

[Neal]

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[dissention]

Still voting for this.

[msLinds]

Round 3 Say We'll Meet Again.




Its important to remember that nobody
falls into a simple set of labels.

:wavey:

[mondaymornin1]

Crap, can't believe I missed the first two rounds...

Turn It On is gone? WTF? :eek:

[rezamatic]

Oh And my favorite OOTC song is Turn it on. But you'll all know what happened to it. I was holding my breath because it was 5-5 and I thought it was through. And then Nancy who was tallying the votes saw that she hadn't vote and pulled the trigger on it. I know it's only a game. But a game that is fun if you have the possibilty to fight for it. No offence Nancy, I'm really fond of you, but it really pissed me off. The drop that made the bucket flow over.


Hell, I've hated the way most of these Survivors have turned out. My favorites go down quick or they lose suddenly and abruptly to my least favorites on the album(s). But I'm still playing! And half the time Nancy and I are total polar opposites on which ones we want to win, but we still don't yell at each other :angel:

[rezamatic]

I think the outcome of this round is pretty much determined with an hour to go, so one more vote to poke and prod at this snoozer can't hurt.

[sodascouts]

And half the time Nancy and I are total polar opposites on which ones we want to win, but we still don't yell at each other :angel:

That keeps us honest. lol

[shackin'up]

No reason to get mad at others and leave the board for simply having different tastes.

You quoted me but didn't read it. I said that it just was a last drop. Not the reason. I just feel that I had a lot better times with other ledgies that are gone or inactive for a long long time. My posts seem to get on peoples nerves and I get lectured. Apart from that my taste in Mac-music seems different from others and I love that. But it would be nice to cross swords about that like we did in the Tusksurvivor and later, I tried to get it on a roll in L&O-survivor. During the summer and the last couple of weeks I tried to get some response on music-related topics, but to no succes. As soon as things seem to start to be interesting again ( for me) the chit-chat babble strikes again. That annoyed me. Not that I think people are less, au contraire. It's just not my cup of tea. I rarely frequent the stevieboard. Not because I don't like her, I adore her. It's the tone that gets me on the nerves. On lindseys side I find more ledgies that spunked my FM-fandom. That population is getting smaller and smaller. So what's in there for me?
I still can't get it that my thread with a link to CVB's creepy live-version of tusk got two responses. Why are we together here? To babble about trivia only? So I don't put myself above anyone. I just don't get it...as I don't get it That Turn It On is put away in round two.

[shackin'up]

And half the time Nancy and I are total polar opposites on which ones we want to win, but we still don't yell at each other :angel:
No and that's a pity.
Nancy even said that we all are winners because all songs are pretty. True, but I hate that approach. It's not a mindset that makes a game fun. And I wanna have fun over here. If that's not there that much anymore then why stay?

[sodascouts]

No and that's a pity.
Nancy even said that we all are winners because all songs are pretty. True, but I hate that approach. It's not a mindset that makes a game fun. And I wanna have fun over here. If that's not there that much anymore then why stay?

Aw, I was just trying to make you feel better. Turn It On blows with its funky pronunciations. Glad it's gone.

Happy now? lol

[Mari]

Well F*ck it. My love for Shut us down and the total ignorance in my direct environment for it drives me towards here. But The Ledge is really getting on my nerves lately. And only a few Ledgies seem to be interested in what I'm interested in. I just miss Seteca, Downonrodeo (so glad you're active over here again), Stefan, Carnevaca AND Carnevaca's ability to squeeze sense out of Diss and Strand.

Even though there are great Ledgies, and you'll all know who I love. But we're such a minority here.


Oh And my favorite OOTC song is Turn it on. But you'll all know what happened to it. I was holding my breath because it was 5-5 and I thought it was through. And then Nancy who was tallying the votes saw that she hadn't vote and pulled the trigger on it. I know it's only a game. But a game that is fun if you have the possibilty to fight for it. No offence Nancy, I'm really fond of you, but it really pissed me off. The drop that made the bucket flow over.

:mad: excuse me, but I'm a bit mad at you.
Didn't you read all the posts of people who'd love you to stick around? I guess we're not that important though? It's disrespectful. Thanks a lot. I'm not going to beg for you to stay around, as much as I'd miss you here.
Flikker dan maar op.

[trackaghost]

I still can't get it that my thread with a link to CVB's creepy live-version of tusk got two responses. Why are we together here? To babble about trivia only? So I don't put myself above anyone. I just don't get it...as I don't get it That Turn It On is put away in round two.

The reason I didn't response to your thread Gerald is because that file was about17MB, which is a massive thing to download when you're on dial-up.

I think the reasons you've cited are why you should stick around. Maybe there's too much shipper talk at the moment, but there's always new blood joining The Ledge. It's always changing round here, not always for the worse.

In the end it's up to you though... :(

[shackin'up]

:mad: excuse me, but I'm a bit mad at you.
Didn't you read all the posts of people who'd love you to stick around? I guess we're not that important though? It's disrespectful. Thanks a lot. I'm not going to beg for you to stay around, as much as I'd miss you here.
Flikker dan maar op.

:lol:

I like your style, Mari, but you knew that. Ofcourse it's great that people want you to stick around. And you know I'm still here, trying to search for words to describe the beauty of Shut Us Down, for instance. But still, there's the selfish side to a human being when he's fed up with something and pissed to the bones: one is not counting their blessings but gathering **** to make it easier to part.

I'll stick around awhile to see if things are going to change for the better.
Thanks to you guys, and of course thanks to Shut Us Down....

[shackin'up]

The reason I didn't response to your thread Gerald is because that file was about17MB, which is a massive thing to download when you're on dial-up.

I think the reasons you've cited are why you should stick around. Maybe there's too much shipper talk at the moment, but there's always new blood joining The Ledge. It's always changing round here, not always for the worse.

In the end it's up to you though... :(

No prob, sharon.It's just an example for making my point. You're defenately one of the reasons why it would be hard to leave. Your 60-70-80-90-00-threads really put my musiccloset upside down, for instance. Thanks again for that.
gerald

[shackin'up]

Aw, I was just trying to make you feel better. Turn It On blows with its funky pronunciations. Glad it's gone.

Happy now? lol

Fighting about it BEFORE the guillotine chops is fun, Nancy. Not afterwards, when the spunk is out, and there's nothing to fight for. If everybody's so predictable you should have known that your remark would have never made me feel better. You KNOW I rather crack the nut than look at it and enjoy it's shape.

[sodascouts]

Fighting about it BEFORE the guillotine chops is fun, Nancy. Not afterwards, when the spunk is out, and there's nothing to fight for. If everybody's so predictable you should have known that your remark would have never made me feel better. You KNOW I rather crack the nut than look at it and enjoy it's shape.

Everybody is predictable, but I thought my comment would lighten things up a bit. Obviously I was wrong!

Oh well. I'll be brutally honest, then. I'm not going to apologize for voting for Soul Drifter. It's an incredible song and if you don't like that Turn it On lost to it, too bad, so sad. That's life. Suck it up and move on.

[shackin'up]

I'm not going to apologize for voting for Soul Drifter.

...and I never asked you to.

[Mari]

:lol:

I like your style, Mari, but you knew that. Ofcourse it's great that people want you to stick around. And you know I'm still here, trying to search for words to describe the beauty of Shut Us Down, for instance. But still, there's the selfish side to a human being when he's fed up with something and pissed to the bones: one is not counting their blessings but gathering **** to make it easier to part.

I'll stick around awhile to see if things are going to change for the better.
Thanks to you guys, and of course thanks to Shut Us Down....

Hehhee it worked :p
Well, I like you too, Gerald, but now get over yourself and stay, ok?

on edit, I do want to add something important, that did not mean I'd want you to stop argueing because I love a good discussion. ;)

[sodascouts]

...and I never asked you to.

No, but you openly threatened to leave if your song was voted out, then replied to my post as the one that put you over the edge. To me, it seemed you were blaming me for spoiling your fun and making you leave by voting my conscience.

How would you feel if the situation were in the reverse? If I threated to leave if Soul Drifter got taken out? You would probably see it as manipulative. You would probably not like it too much if I angrily replied to your vote that made it lose. Just a guess.

Finally, it is silly to expect others to contrive negativity about songs they like in order to keep you entertained by fighting.

And Bobo, I didn't realize that saying one should get over the loss of one's song means that one is not allowed to like that song. Perhaps my post was not clear - sorry to confuse you.

[Mari]

If it's silly, that's excellent. I'd rather laugh at people who take themselves too seriously and you're most certainly one of them. I know you mean well, so do I :shrug:

[Mari]

I'm so confused. Where's my blankie?

Ah, poor BoBo! Come here for a cuddle, eh. If you dare.

[sodascouts]

If it's silly, that's excellent. I'd rather laugh at people who take themselves too seriously and you're most certainly one of them. I know you mean well, so do I :shrug:

Fine, laugh at me if you like. It wouldn't be the first time others have entertained themselves by ridiculing me. Obviously it's hurtful but fewer and fewer people seem to be concerned with that around here. Perhaps that's part of the reason why people are leaving the Ledge in droves, eh?

[Mari]

You could laugh at yourself, you know!

It feels useless to say more because we seem to be talking a different language, pardon the pun. Cultural difference, I guess.

Ah, love that edit, eh.
You know what's really stupid?! I forgot in the heat of the argument.. dumb. I guess this tiff started because you thought I was making fun of this particular argument between you and Gerald. I did not. I was talking about all his discussions here, about music, anything. I do like it when someone is not afraid to step in the fire and say his thing.

[shackin'up]

No, but you openly threatened to leave if your song was voted out, then replied to my post as the one that put you over the edge. To me, it seemed you were blaming me for spoiling your fun and making you leave by voting my conscience. .

Well you've got a point there. Sorry. But I was not blaming you, I see now that it was easily interpreted that way. :sorry:


How would you feel if the situation were in the reverse? If I threated to leave if Soul Drifter got taken out? You would probably see it as manipulative. You would probably not like it too much if I angrily replied to your vote that made it lose. Just a guess.

In reverse this would never have happened. If I had tallied the votes as a host I would never had pulled the trigger on one song 4 minutes before closingtime. I would have said to myself: well dumbass you blew it by not voting but it is not very chique to be decisive this late when you're hosting. Next round starts now.


Finally, it is silly to expect others to contrive negativity about songs they like in order to keep you entertained by fighting.

Sorry Nancy, but I think that would be silly too. I simply don't understand why you think I'm thinking that.

[sodascouts]

Well you've got a point there. Sorry. But I was not blaming you, I see now that it was easily interpreted that way. :sorry:

Thanks.


In reverse this would never have happened. If I had tallied the votes as a host I would never had pulled the trigger on one song 4 minutes before closingtime. I would have said to myself: well dumbass you blew it by not voting but it is not very chique to be decisive this late when you're hosting. Next round starts now.

Sorry, but this is completely bogus!! I'm not allowed to vote WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD ALLOTED because I'm the host? That makes no sense! So, how late is too late? Am I not allowed to vote within 5 minutes of the end time? 10 minutes? 30? When does it become "unchique"? And is this only the case when the vote is decisive or can I never vote at the last minute? Would it be OK to vote at the last minute if my vote had been for anything other than "Turn It On"? And is the reasoning behind this that I am dashing the hopes of the other side, poor things, and therefore should not vote because it makes them feel bad? Ridiculous.


Sorry Nancy, but I think that would be silly too. I simply don't understand why you think I'm thinking that.
Because you criticized me for saying that all the songs were good.

[sodascouts]

You could laugh at yourself, you know!

It feels useless to say more because we seem to be talking a different language, pardon the pun. Cultural difference, I guess.

Ah, love that edit, eh.
You know what's really stupid?! I forgot in the heat of the argument.. dumb. I guess this tiff started because you thought I was making fun of this particular argument between you and Gerald. I did not. I was talking about all his discussions here, about music, anything. I do like it when someone is not afraid to step in the fire and say his thing.

True, I can laugh at myself more.

And I am notorious for last-minute edits. I always hope I can get them in before anyone reads the first version, but sometimes that's not the case. Embarrassing!

[Mari]

Well, are we 'good' again then? Or at least better?
So I can put this silly sleepy head to bed?

[sodascouts]

Well, are we 'good' again then? Or at least better?
So I can put this silly sleepy head to bed?

Yes. Goodnight! :)

[shackin'up]

Sorry, but this is completely bogus!! I'm not allowed to vote WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD ALLOTED because I'm the host? That makes no sense! So, how late is too late? Am I not allowed to vote within 5 minutes of the end time? 10 minutes? 30? When does it become "unchique"? And is this only the case when the vote is decisive or can I never vote at the last minute? Would it be OK to vote at the last minute if my vote had been for anything other than "Turn It On"? And is the reasoning behind this that I am dashing the hopes of the other side, poor things, and therefore should not vote because it makes them feel bad? Ridiculous..

Chill out please. You said "what if this was the situation in reverse". I responded the way I would have acted. That you did not was already clear. I do not say that YOU should have done that, I said I would have done that.

And to be overly clear: this has nothing to do with WHAT you voted.


Because you criticized me for saying that all the songs were good.
I did not.
I know all songs are good.
It's kicking in an open door.
I criticized you for saying we are all winners in a game where every round has a loser. So everytime you lose your favorite song you feel if you have won, because the rest is beautiful too. Speaking of ridiculous.

[sodascouts]

Chill out please. You said "what if this was the situation in reverse". I responded the way I would have acted. That you did not was already clear. I do not say that YOU should have done that, I said I would have done that.

In a way that's an implicit criticism of me for doing it. However, I do believe that you would do that - you're a very nice person. Nicer than I am, that's for sure!


I criticized you for saying we are all winners in a game where every round has a loser. So everytime you lose your favorite song you feel if you have won, because the rest is beautiful too. Speaking of ridiculous.

Well, when you put it that way, it does seem ridiculous. So much for that poltically correct approach!

[shackin'up]

In a way that's an implicit criticism of me for doing it. However, I do believe that you would do that - you're a very nice person. Nicer than I am, that's for sure!




Well, when you put it that way, it does seem ridiculous. So much for that poltically correct approach!

I don't think I act very nice over here so maybe you should have put a :rolleyes: to that sentence.

I would never host a game that I want to be a player in, but I'm glad you take the effort to do so, so I'll cut the crap and get over my pathetic behaviour. If I want to go out of here, I'll be out and not rub it in by putting it in option for discussion.

[sodascouts]

I don't think I act very nice over here so maybe you should have put a :rolleyes: to that sentence.


Well, maybe not sweet-flowers nice, or nice all the time in here, but nice overall, as a person.

[shackin'up]

Well, maybe not sweet-flowers nice, or nice all the time in here, but nice overall, as a person.
well thanks that's sweet. maybe you're a nice person after all. :p