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SpyNote
09-09-2005, 02:51 PM
Rob Thomas and Joss Stone covered "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" at last night's Fashion Rocks concert in New York. It is being shown tonight on CBS at 9pm.

Neal
09-09-2005, 02:53 PM
Ooh, I love me some Rob! :nod:

LiquidBlue5000
09-09-2005, 03:06 PM
Ooh, I love me some Rob! :nod:

so does Tom Cruise ;)

AliceLover
09-09-2005, 03:09 PM
Very cool! Ill be sure to catch this tonight.

UndoingTheLaces
09-09-2005, 03:34 PM
Aww, I got all excited. I didn't know who Joss Stone was and I thought it was a guy. I think it would be so hot hearing two guys sing that song. :)

Neal
09-09-2005, 03:37 PM
so does Tom Cruise ;)

Tom is a troll :wavey:

Livia
09-09-2005, 03:38 PM
Cool, thanks for posting! :nod:

chiliD
09-09-2005, 03:38 PM
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they're covering Tom Petty? :shrug:

Livia
09-09-2005, 03:40 PM
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they're covering Tom Petty? :shrug:

Yes, it would! I wonder if Joss will wear a Stevie-ish outfit? No doubt, she will be barefoot, however....keep your eyes open for Stevie outfits on mannequins, like they did last year.

trackaghost
09-09-2005, 03:41 PM
I'm scared. :shocked:

rbs3676
09-09-2005, 03:47 PM
Not a big fan of Robs, but I totally love Joss, so this has the potential for being AWESOME! Thanks for the heads-up! Will set my DVR when I get home! :xoxo:

rbs

trackaghost
09-09-2005, 03:50 PM
Yes, it would! I wonder if Joss will wear a Stevie-ish outfit? No doubt, she will be barefoot, however....keep your eyes open for Stevie outfits on mannequins, like they did last year.

She wore a black sequined baby doll dress, quite low-cut. Kinda boho, kinda Beyonce.

amber
09-09-2005, 03:52 PM
She wore a black sequined baby doll dress, quite low-cut. Kinda boho, kinda Beyonce.
How'd they sound? Cause, you know, I can't wait until tonight to find out.

trackaghost
09-09-2005, 03:57 PM
How'd they sound? Cause, you know, I can't wait until tonight to find out.

Oh I dunno. I just saw the picture in the evening papers. It didn't mention the duet was a cover. I don't like either of them though, esp Rob Thomas, so I just know I'm not gonna like it.
Joss' dress was really cute though :)

GODDESS6
09-09-2005, 04:07 PM
so does Tom Cruise ;)
omg, i heard that too!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

i be lovin' me some rob tho also!!! :nod: ~

Richard B
09-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they're covering Tom Petty? :shrug:
Yes, technically accurate. But he did give the song to Stevie and she made it a huge hit and is more known for the song regardless of the songwriter.

I like Tom's version too, but it sounds so much better as a duet.

Macfanforever
09-09-2005, 04:30 PM
I know who is Rob Thomas, who is Joss Stone.i'm not up to date with these newbee artists...

AliceLover
09-09-2005, 04:31 PM
Remember the year she was up for most fashionable artist? Then lost o madonna.

SpyNote
09-09-2005, 04:52 PM
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they're covering Tom Petty? :shrug:

I guess it depends on how you define cover. If you define it as a remake, then it's fair to say they're covering Stevie. If you define it by songwriter, then you could say they're covering Petty. But I'm not sure if Petty ever recorded the song beyond a demo (e.g. Playback box set) or ever performed the song on his own in concert (Petty fans, correct me if I'm wrong).

If the classic song "Heartbreak Hotel" were covered by someone today, it might be referred to as an Elvis Presley cover, even though Elvis didn't write the song. So it depends on what you mean by a cover.

Livia
09-09-2005, 05:10 PM
Perhaps it should be referred to as a cover of Tom AND Stevie, since HE wrote it, and they BOTH sang it?

Livia
09-09-2005, 05:15 PM
rollingstone.com (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7622672/davidbowie?pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single1&rnd=1126304018859&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040)

Bowie, Keys Dress Up
Musicians take Radio City for Fashion Rocks benefit

For proof that music and fashion are inextricably linked, look no further than David Bowie, just one of the artists featured on Fashion Rocks, the extravaganza that helped to kick off New York's fall Fashion Week, set for broadcast Friday night on CBS. Taped live on Thursday at Radio City Music Hall, the concert found the always-trendy rocker sharing a bill with other stylish artists, such as Gwen Stefani, Duran Duran, Alicia Keys, Destiny's Child, Tim McGraw, Shakira, Nelly, Billy Idol and the Arcade Fire.
"Right now, I'm here as a fan," Alicia Keys told the crowd while introducing Bowie, whose career has been defined as much by his evolving appearance as his sound. "He's an artist who towers above the rest . . . constantly changing his looks," she said, before a dapper Bowie, clad in a blue suit, performed an eerie rendition of his classic "Life on Mars," backed only by an accompanist on a grand piano.

Bowie's performance was serious with good reason. In addition to spotlighting celebrity fashion, the event joins other televised efforts in fundraising for Hurricane Katrina relief: All proceeds from the evening were donated to the cause, and presenters and performers frequently appealed to the audience for support.

The evening began by immediately acknowledging the Gulf Coast disaster in a show-opening performance by a black-clad Tim McGraw. The country star sang "My Old Friend" as images of New Orleans darted by on screens flanking the stage. "We'll meet again, my old friend," McGraw crooned, and the song transformed into a tribute, capturing the spirit of a battered city, while maintaining a glimmer of optimism. Similarly, in her performance later that night, Keys moved with her new single "Unbreakable," which was ornamented with saxophone and Keys' own jazzy organ-playing.

There was still room for a celebratory spirit, however, as an early performance by Destiny's Child proved. In perhaps their last televised appearance as a group, Beyonce, Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams made a glamorous entrance, parading through the facade of a store that read "House of Dereon," Beyonce's new clothing line. The trio then vamped through a pumped-up medley of hits, including "Independent Women," "Say My Name," "Survivor" and "Lose My Breath."

Gwen Stefani -- whose own line, LAMB, has shown staying power -- delivered her single "Cool" on a spare stage early in the evening. The stylish blonde was decked out in a sequined, cream-colored dress. Rapper Nelly, another fashion entrepreneur, performed with Pharrell Williams on "Play It Off," with its nightclub theme and fleet of backup dancers.

More collaborations studded the evening, as Rob Thomas and Joss Stone reprised the roles of Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks for a duet on "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around," with Stone preening and growling as she sidled up to Thomas. And later on, in a show highlight, Bowie returned to the stage with the Arcade Fire. The Montreal indie rockers offered a folky reading of Bowie's "Five Years" with Bowie on lead vocals, followed by a simmering rendition of their own "Wake Up" with Bowie and Arcade Fire frontman Win Butler harmonizing. The song ended in a twinkling coda, complete with accordion, that roused the crowd to its feet.

Fashion grabbed the spotlight again when New Wave clotheshorses Duran Duran took the stage: During a revved-up version of their classic "Girls on Film," Simon LeBon and company were joined by models offering glimpses of designers' new fall collections. It was a moment as rock & roll as any fashion show could be.



BRIAN ORLOFF
(Posted Sep 09, 2005)

Livia
09-09-2005, 05:17 PM
From canada.com (http://www.canada.com/entertainment/story.html?id=005c0903-ece9-4a0b-9545-8cac95b21cf2)

Friday » September 9 » 2005

Gwen, Beyoncé shine as Fashion Rocks

Samantha Critchell
Associated Press


Friday, September 09, 2005

NEW YORK -- When fashion rocks, singers-turned-designers Gwen Stefani and Beyoncé pull out all the stops.

Stefani put on a slinky silver dress worthy of a screen siren at Thursday night's Fashion Rocks concert that kicked off New York Fashion Week, and Beyoncé -- along with her fellow members of Destiny's Child -- wore shimmery babydoll dresses.

The concert, to be shown Friday night on the U.S. network CBS, brought together some of music's biggest and most fashionable stars to celebrate the link between style and song.

Richard Beckman, the show's producer and president of The Conde Nast Media Group, which publishes Vogue and GQ, said "music defines the epochs of fashion over the years."

"Music stars have always been fashion icons. Think of The Beatles coming off the plane, the mods of 'the new romantics,' Madonna, David Bowie."

Thursday night, Bowie looked like a billboard for sleek chicness -- until you looked down: His seemingly perfect suit had pants that only reached his ankles. His stunning wife Iman made up for that faux-pas in a clingy, skin-coloured gown decorated with crystals.

"Music influences fashion and vice versa," said Tina Chai, the show's stylist. "You have to strike the right balance of both sex and sophistication."

Bowie wasn't the only '80s rocker there Thursday.

"Style has always been very important to us," said Duran Duran's Nick Rhodes backstage before the show. "We grew up in the '70s. Music was glam rock, punk rock and a very stylish movement."

Recalling Duran Duran's first photo shoot, Rhodes said he and his bandmates went to a college campus in London and asked the edgiest students they could find to come up with the band's wardrobe. "We liked what they came up with at the time, but, yes, they'd be a little dated now."

The band, known for songs like Rio and Hungry Like a Wolf, wore suits when performing Girls on Film with a gaggle of women dressed in clothes designed by Stefani, Beyoncé, Jennifer Lopez, Sean (Diddy) Combs and Jay-Z behind them.

The big finale was Billy Idol's White Wedding, and for that number models were dressed in bridal gowns by Roberto Cavalli, John Galliano, Chanel and Vera Wang, among others.

Hanging out in the green room with model wife Marisol, Rob Thomas said he gives some thought to his wardrobe, especially what he wears on stage, but not too much. "I like something with a classic touch. That way, it's easy."

So what did Thomas wear for his duet of Stop Dragging My Heart Around with Joss Stone channelling Stevie Nicks? Jeans and a T-shirt.

SapphireSister
09-09-2005, 06:16 PM
I'll definitely be recording this if I go out tonight, mainly to catch SDMHA. I'll be anxious to see if she does our girl justice...

IMO most people don't consider SDMHA to be a Tom Petty song. It was on HER album and the average person would not know he wrote it.

Johnny Stew
09-09-2005, 06:59 PM
If the classic song "Heartbreak Hotel" were covered by someone today, it might be referred to as an Elvis Presley cover, even though Elvis didn't write the song. So it depends on what you mean by a cover.Exactly. :nod:

When Bonnie Tyler recorded her album of cover songs a few years ago, every press release and article (from European newspapers -- it wasn't released here in the states), mentioned that Bonnie was covering "Fleetwood Mac's 'Need Your Love So Bad.'"

While I was happy to see FM mentioned, "Need Your Love So Bad" is technically a Little Willie John song.
But songs usually become synonymous with the artist who made them famous, and people recognize them as such.

amber
09-09-2005, 08:13 PM
Perhaps it should be referred to as a cover of Tom AND Stevie, since HE wrote it, and they BOTH sang it?
Wait wait wait, though. Haven't you guys heard the rendition of SDMHA where Tom sings all the parts? Some months ago, they were playing it all over a local station. It kind of sucked, b/c I would get all excited by the opening riffs, only to discover that Stevie was not on it. :mad:

Mad4stevie
09-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Has this duet already been performed? I saw Rob doing a solo number. I hope I didn't miss it!

Karlie
09-09-2005, 08:33 PM
Rob Thomas and Joss Stone covered "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" at last night's Fashion Rocks concert in New York. It is being shown tonight on CBS at 9pm.

Cool. I love Rob. Joss is not that great, IMO.

SmileAtU
09-09-2005, 08:45 PM
Has this duet already been performed? I saw Rob doing a solo number. I hope I didn't miss it!

It came on at 8 here and I just now turned it on. Missed the first 45 minutes. Did they go yet?? I want to see it. Like them both.

bikerchic
09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
It's coming up next.

catinthedark
09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
I've just turned it on, too. Caught the end of solo Joss, and the announcer just said, "coming up - Joss Stone, Rob Thomas, etc etc." Here's hoping I didn't miss it either...

wondergirl9847
09-09-2005, 09:29 PM
I just now clicked on this thread and BAM, there they are singing it. LOL

BTW, what the frick happened to David Bowie? Did Iman do that to him? :laugh:

Sesly, what happened? :shocked: I hope he's okay.

Kyan, QUIT SHAVING!! LOL I love the stubble.

Joss...did you lay out today, cuz you are red.

KenshiMaster16
09-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Rob's gotta be the Stevie fan. He seems like a fan of hers. I can't see Joss liking Stevie. But ya never know. Anyways, sounds good!! :thumbsup:

JazmenFlowers
09-09-2005, 09:33 PM
ok, I officially love Rob Thomas and not too sure about Joss Stone. She barely even sang the freakin' words. Rob looked like he wanted to rock out but Joss just got on my nerves. It was cool though to hear the applause for the song.

catinthedark
09-09-2005, 09:35 PM
I?

Have just discovered that I hate Joss Stone.

That was putrid. Someone has to A) teach that girl how to move on stage, and B) DRESS. Fer God's sake - it was called FASHION Rocks. :shocked:

SmileAtU
09-09-2005, 09:35 PM
ok, I officially love Rob Thomas


Rob Thomas is HOTTTTT!

GypsyNomad
09-09-2005, 09:37 PM
Did nothing for me, Rob looked like he was having more fun...nothing tops the Petty/Nicks duets. What up with her not wearing shoes?

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 09:37 PM
ok, I officially love Rob Thomas and not too sure about Joss Stone. She barely even sang the freakin' words. Rob looked like he wanted to rock out but Joss just got on my nerves. It was cool though to hear the applause for the song.
Oh thank you - I wasn't the only one. :xoxo:

Does she not realize what the song is about? It's a kiss-off song, not a slink-around-trying-to-be-sexy-at-all-costs song.

KenshiMaster16
09-09-2005, 09:38 PM
Who cares. If it gets more people liking Stevie tunes, all the same! :woohoo:

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 09:39 PM
I just now clicked on this thread and BAM, there they are singing it. LOL

BTW, what the frick happened to David Bowie? Did Iman do that to him? :laugh:

Sesly, what happened? :shocked: I hope he's okay.

Kyan, QUIT SHAVING!! LOL I love the stubble.

Joss...did you lay out today, cuz you are red.
:lol:

At first I thought the same thing, but I think Bowie was trying to do a social statement with his makeup/clothes. High water pants...

I could be wrong tho - Iman IS pretty scary. :nod:

Johnny Stew
09-09-2005, 09:39 PM
The band sounded great, Rob sounded great (loved him on some of the lines Stevie originally sang), but Joss... well, what can I say?
If she'd quit all that note-scaling caterwauling and the over-emoting, she'd probably be a good singer.

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 09:41 PM
The band sounded great, Rob sounded great (loved him on some of the lines Stevie originally sang), but Joss... well, what can I say?
If she'd quit all that note-scaling caterwauling and the over-emoting, she'd probably be a good singer.
Caterwauling. Perfect description. :laugh:

wondergirl9847
09-09-2005, 09:41 PM
At first I thought the same thing, but I think Bowie was trying to do a social statement with his makeup/clothes. High water pants...

I could be wrong tho - Iman IS pretty scary. :nod:

Totally lost on me if that was the case. LOL

Mad4stevie
09-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Yeah, was that a black eye Bowie was sporting?

Seriously, I wondered if it was makeup or something else . . . I mean, if it was a real black eye, wouldn't they cover it up with makeup?

GypsyNomad
09-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Oh thank you - I wasn't the only one. :xoxo:

Does she not realize what the song is about? It's a kiss-off song, not a slink-around-trying-to-be-sexy-at-all-costs song.

Yeah! SDMHA is a go-kiss-my-ass-platform-boot-stomping-song!
Oh Joss & your shoeless hippie-wannabe ways :rolleyes:

bikerchic
09-09-2005, 09:49 PM
Does she not realize what the song is about? It's a kiss-off song, not a slink-around-trying-to-be-sexy-at-all-costs song.
Reminds me of Wilson Phillips singing Go Your Own Way :distress:

The Tower
09-09-2005, 09:51 PM
PUKE, PUKE, PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZERO rock cred.

Mad4stevie
09-09-2005, 09:54 PM
Reminds me of Wilson Phillips singing Go Your Own Way :distress:

God, few things are that terrible! :laugh:

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Lisa Marie?

One word: PITCHY

(And that's really saying something when she's standing next to Billy Idol - even tho I love him.)

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 10:02 PM
Yeah, was that a black eye Bowie was sporting?

Seriously, I wondered if it was makeup or something else . . . I mean, if it was a real black eye, wouldn't they cover it up with makeup?
The black eye looked fake to me. And his hand was bandaged in the first song, but not the second with ________ (have no idea which band the duet was with).

You'd think he would've learned a lesson after that whole Annie Lennox debaucle at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert. Annie was made up with what she intended to be a "black mask of death". The press all wondered: Why did Annie Lennox show up on stage with racoon eyes???

Livia
09-09-2005, 10:02 PM
Lisa Marie?

Not just pitchy - but completely OFF-KEY! GAWD, that was horrendous! I loved the black wedding outfit, though.

As for Joss and Rob - I dunno, I kinda liked it! I also usually love everything Joss wears. The band was rocking, the crowd dug it. As for the caterwauling, well, that's just Joss. :shrug: Did y'all notice the leg-hike she did, just like Stevie did in the video?

bikerchic
09-09-2005, 10:06 PM
Lisa Marie?

One word: PITCHY

(And that's really saying something when she's standing next to Billy Idol - even tho I love him.)
LMP can.not.sing.

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 10:16 PM
LMP can.not.sing.
Nope. It was obvious she'd put more thought into the outfit than her parts of the song. Sure - we've all heard that song 100 million times, but still.

SapphireSister
09-09-2005, 10:16 PM
What time did Rob and Joss go on you time? It just started here...

Nixxxed
09-09-2005, 10:19 PM
What time did Rob and Joss go on you time? It just started here...
It was about 90 mins in, give or take. And watch for the Bowie thing - tell us what you think. :laugh:

SapphireSister
09-09-2005, 10:19 PM
It was about 90 mins in, give or take. And watch for the Bowie thing - tell us what you think. :laugh:

Cool thanks I will! :)

AliceLover
09-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Yeah! SDMHA is a go-kiss-my-ass-platform-boot-stomping-song!
Oh Joss & your shoeless hippie-wannabe ways :rolleyes:

I didn't think it was THAT bad. I actually enjoyed it. They had fun singing together, and the crowd was into it. I really enjoyed the music, drummer was great. Cool it on Josh, she has spunk and personality. I think shes great.

AliceLover
09-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Not just pitchy - but completely OFF-KEY! GAWD, that was horrendous! I loved the black wedding outfit, though.

As for Joss and Rob - I dunno, I kinda liked it! I also usually love everything Joss wears. The band was rocking, the crowd dug it. As for the caterwauling, well, that's just Joss. :shrug: Did y'all notice the leg-hike she did, just like Stevie did in the video?

I liked it too! I taped it.

GWEN STEFANI WAS AWESOME!

"Cool" is a great song. I thought she did a great job with it and she looked beautiful singing it. I need them to replay it so I can tape it without the cut out.

GypsySorcerer
09-09-2005, 11:48 PM
The band sounded great, Rob sounded great (loved him on some of the lines Stevie originally sang), but Joss... well, what can I say?
If she'd quit all that note-scaling caterwauling and the over-emoting, she'd probably be a good singer.
Ditto. I'd take Rob over Waddy. :lol:

And I loved Gwen's Marilyn get up. :xoxo:

GypsyNomad
09-10-2005, 12:21 AM
I didn't think it was THAT bad. I actually enjoyed it. They had fun singing together, and the crowd was into it. I really enjoyed the music, drummer was great. Cool it on Josh, she has spunk and personality. I think shes great.

i was only kidding... i don't dislike Joss, i just didn't like the way she sang it. IMO Rob was better. And as for the lack of shoes thing, again a joke. i've never seen someone on stage with no shoes before, i thought it was kind of quirky.... with the exception of walking around the city, i rarely wear shoes myself, i guess that makes me a "shoeless hippie wannabe" too :)

BellaSoprano71
09-10-2005, 12:23 AM
I hope they replay this.......Whats my chances here? Since it was a network...I wasn't home tonight..and now I really want to see it :shocked:

highpriestess53
09-10-2005, 02:25 AM
Yeah! SDMHA is a go-kiss-my-ass-platform-boot-stomping-song!
Oh Joss & your shoeless hippie-wannabe ways :rolleyes:

You should really give Joss a break...she's only just 18...young, naive, inexperienced and reservedly British..... :laugh:

GypsyNomad
09-10-2005, 02:39 AM
You should really give Joss a break...she's only just 18...young, naive, inexperienced and reservedly British..... :laugh:

why is everyone ganging up on me tonight? how's my post different from others who feel the same way? i don't think i was being mean, just kidding around.... with the way some bash Stevie around here, its dosen't make sense to get so defensive with Joss :(

highpriestess53
09-10-2005, 03:13 AM
why is everyone ganging up on me tonight? how's my post different from others who feel the same way? i don't think i was being mean, just kidding around.... with the way some bash Stevie around here, its dosen't make sense to get so defensive with Joss :(


I am sorry you feel that I was ganging upon you......it was certainly not my intention and the furthest thing from my mind. Perhaps we are feeling a little overly sensitive?

GypsyNomad
09-10-2005, 03:53 AM
I am sorry you feel that I was ganging upon you......it was certainly not my intention and the furthest thing from my mind. Perhaps we are feeling a little overly sensitive?

i am in fact a sensitive person.... its not you who i felt was ganging up on me, i'm just annoyed that i was sorta singled out inspite of the other posts (hating Joss....puke! etc,) i just don't understand :shrug:

trackaghost
09-10-2005, 06:42 AM
Funny how everyone has ganged up on Joss. I've always thought she was the most souless soul singer out there today but I'd take her any day over the blandness that is Rob Thomas (plus her clothes are great). I once had to review a Matchbox Twenty DVD and I still shudder from the thought.

dissention
09-10-2005, 10:54 AM
Rob Thomas hurts my everything. He's just...wrong. Just go away. Please. Vacate from the music industry and become a monk or something. Take the other matchboxes with you, I have no use for them, either.

dissention
09-10-2005, 10:56 AM
Funny how everyone has ganged up on Joss. I've always thought she was the most souless soul singer out there today but I'd take her any day over the blandness that is Rob Thomas (plus her clothes are great). I once had to review a Matchbox Twenty DVD and I still shudder from the thought.

I'm still recovering from Joss Stone singing the Alfie theme. My bloody ears. And don't even get me started on how over-the-top she was when she dueted with Debbie on "One Way Or Another." Frick me, I wish I'd never heard that one.

AliceLover
09-10-2005, 11:33 AM
Funny how everyone has ganged up on Joss. I've always thought she was the most souless soul singer out there today but I'd take her any day over the blandness that is Rob Thomas (plus her clothes are great). I once had to review a Matchbox Twenty DVD and I still shudder from the thought.

I liked it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beachwood Mac
09-10-2005, 12:54 PM
I hope they replay this.......Whats my chances here? Since it was a network...I wasn't home tonight..and now I really want to see it :shocked:

It's available on this site: http://stevie-nicks.info/

Beachwood Mac
09-10-2005, 12:58 PM
The black eye looked fake to me. And his hand was bandaged in the first song, but not the second with ________ (have no idea which band the duet was with).

Just found out that the band was Arcade Fire.

mikeschmike
09-10-2005, 01:01 PM
I'm still recovering from Joss Stone singing the Alfie theme. My bloody ears. And don't even get me started on how over-the-top she was when she dueted with Debbie on "One Way Or Another." Frick me, I wish I'd never heard that one.


Debbie should have reached over and slapped the hell out of her. I'm sure she wanted to.

AliceLover
09-10-2005, 01:03 PM
Anybody know where I can get Gwen Stefanis "Cool" performance from that show?

DavidMn
09-10-2005, 01:28 PM
so does Tom Cruise ;)
Really? hmm interesting

strandinthewind
09-10-2005, 01:31 PM
I'm still recovering from Joss Stone singing the Alfie theme. My bloody ears. And don't even get me started on how over-the-top she was when she dueted with Debbie on "One Way Or Another." Frick me, I wish I'd never heard that one.

She has a set of pipes - she just oversings everything, which is the latest "I am white chick trying to be black like Aretha" style. I mean sing the ONE note as written without adding ten to the end of it as if you are doing a vocal warm up with scales. She did this cra**y style of singing with Melissa E. in the Janis covers. It was very apparent who was the vocally superior one in that. I mean I though ME's voice was going to knock Stone to the floor :laugh:

I will say this - the music sounded great to these ears and I am a total fan of RT and he sounded EONS better than she did - at least he sings the notes as written.

DavidMn
09-10-2005, 01:46 PM
Rob Thomas- good looking but his music? Y A W N. I just dont get him.

SpyNote
09-10-2005, 02:36 PM
She has a set of pipes - she just oversings everything, which is the latest "I am white chick trying to be black like Aretha" style.

In England, you'll find many white women who are (and have been for a long time) soul singers. They're not following any kind of trend, they just love and appreciate soul and R&B like anyone else.

gldstwmn
09-10-2005, 02:42 PM
This version is pretty milquetoast.

highpriestess53
09-10-2005, 02:44 PM
I loved this version/interpretation/arrangement?? of SDMH.....OK it doesn't quite have the same chemistry as Stevie and Tom but it was a great attempt to bring Stevie/Toms (Lets face who can fill Stevie platforms anyhow) music to a younger and different audience by two people who are currently en vogue on the music scene?

Louise

strandinthewind
09-10-2005, 02:51 PM
In England, you'll find many white women who are (and have been for a long time) soul singers. They're not following any kind of trend, they just love and appreciate soul and R&B like anyone else.

I know - but I think this chick is a poser in her antics. I just hate it when singers sing ten notes where one ought to be. Interestingly, that is why I mostly cannot stand Whitney Houston and that ilk - I mean all that hand raising witnessing and a ten minute of note belting to end a song - not for me and IMO an insult to most legit. singers. But - to each their own.

gldstwmn
09-10-2005, 02:55 PM
Rob Thomas hurts my everything. He's just...wrong. Just go away. Please. Vacate from the music industry and become a monk or something. Take the other matchboxes with you, I have no use for them, either.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

amber
09-10-2005, 04:20 PM
I just heard it. I thought she had a strong voice, but it sounded very weak. It sucked, really. It wasn't different, and it wasn't a good enough vocal to justify doing it the same. Overall, Barf.
God, Stevie's sooooo good.

lagringader&r
09-10-2005, 05:07 PM
She has a set of pipes - she just oversings everything, which is the latest "I am white chick trying to be black like Aretha" style. I mean sing the ONE note as written without adding ten to the end of it as if you are doing a vocal warm up with scales. She did this cra**y style of singing with Melissa E. in the Janis covers. It was very apparent who was the vocally superior one in that. I mean I though ME's voice was going to knock Stone to the floor :laugh:

I will say this - the music sounded great to these ears and I am a total fan of RT and he sounded EONS better than she did - at least he sings the notes as written.

I totally agree. Stone needs to tone it down coz she's annoying and a show-off. Melissa is definitely the superior singer and let's face it..Stevie is hard act to follow too and so is Tom Petty. Those were and are true rockers. The watered down new version is a wannabe but nice try. Speaking of Melissa Etheridge, has anybody heard her version of Refugee? KICKS ASS and sounds like it was written for her and her alone. Tom must be proud!

TwistedGypsy
09-10-2005, 06:22 PM
Ok just my 2 cents.... I think they did it justice but it was kind of bland to me. I don't like Rob Thomas but I think he did better than Joss. And lastly, I wish Joss would wear some friggin' shoes. Doesn't she know thats how people catch worms! :distress: Thats all.
Brit

mylittledemon
09-10-2005, 06:51 PM
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they're covering Tom Petty? :shrug:

Always raining on the parade arentcha?

mylittledemon
09-10-2005, 06:52 PM
I know - but I think this chick is a poser in her antics. I just hate it when singers sing ten notes where one ought to be. Interestingly, that is why I mostly cannot stand Whitney Houston and that ilk - I mean all that hand raising witnessing and a ten minute of note belting to end a song - not for me and IMO an insult to most legit. singers. But - to each their own.


Preach on it.

BlackWidow
09-10-2005, 07:29 PM
Rob Thomas and Joss Stone covered "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" at last night's Fashion Rocks concert in New York. It is being shown tonight on CBS at 9pm.
Joss Stone is no Stevie Nicks!

Macfanforever
09-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Ya ,now I know who Joss Stone is, She's cute, did ok on the song. Rob did a nice job on it too.now I have to find some time to watch the rest of the show on the tape.

golden braid
09-10-2005, 10:44 PM
I just listened to it and it was OK. Joss sounds like she can really sing but she annoys me with all of her oohs, ahhs, and yeahs. She does those extra vocals way to much. She did that last year with Melissa Ethridge too.

Shades
09-11-2005, 07:23 AM
I will say this - the music sounded great to these ears and I am a total fan of RT and he sounded EONS better than she did - at least he sings the notes as written.

So what I gather from yours and another poster opinions is that you prefer covers that are clones of the original instead of being sung in the artist's own style. Rob Thomas basically imitated Tom Petty. Joss did her own thing. Kudos to her.

http://tinypic.com/dmtdhk.jpg

dissention
09-11-2005, 10:09 AM
So what I gather from yours and another poster opinions is that you prefer covers that are clones of the original instead of being sung in the artist's own style. Rob Thomas basically imitated Tom Petty. Joss did her own thing. Kudos to her.

That's because Rob Thomas suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. He's the musical equivalent of a brown envelope; plain, boring, and not very tasty. Joss Stone put her own spin on it, but the young girl has no idea what pitch is and she sings everything as if they may be the very last notes she'll ever sing, so she drags everything out to the point where you're asleep halfway through any random song she's singing. All that squealing drives me batty.

TwistedGypsy
09-11-2005, 10:58 AM
That's because Rob Thomas suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. He's the musical equivalent of a brown envelope; plain, boring, and not very tasty. Joss Stone put her own spin on it, but the young girl has no idea what pitch is and she sings everything as if they may be the very last notes she'll ever sing, so she drags everything out to the point where you're asleep halfway through any random song she's singing. All that squealing drives me batty.

For once I think I agree with you. I need to see if Hell has frozen over. :shocked:
Brit

strandinthewind
09-11-2005, 11:20 AM
So what I gather from yours and another poster opinions is that you prefer covers that are clones of the original instead of being sung in the artist's own style. Rob Thomas basically imitated Tom Petty. Joss did her own thing. Kudos to her.

http://tinypic.com/dmtdhk.jpg


Not at all- you mistakenly inferred that. Again, what I do not like is this twink dragging every note out at the end and her constant raising of her hand as if she is witnessing in some black gospel revival tent at Jazz Fest in New Orleans. To quote my mother - this poser is "too much sugar for a dime" and I, and apparantly others, think and thought her own thing was horrible.

As for Thomas, he was boring, as he usually is, but at least less is usually more.

strandinthewind
09-11-2005, 11:22 AM
That's because Rob Thomas suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. He's the musical equivalent of a brown envelope; plain, boring, and not very tasty. Joss Stone put her own spin on it, but the young girl has no idea what pitch is and she sings everything as if they may be the very last notes she'll ever sing, so she drags everything out to the point where you're asleep halfway through any random song she's singing. All that squealing drives me batty.


Yep - and it seems to have been the trend for like ten years now. The funniest incidence to me is when Brittany Spears used to try to do it :eek: I mean at least Stone HAS a voice :laugh: no matter how inappropriately she uses it :cool:

Macfanforever
09-11-2005, 12:14 PM
I have the mpeg version here if anyone wants it. it's 48mb , 4:40 min long.
better then those crappy ra/wma video files on the web. also have Lindsey/Stevie Soundstage two song clip in mpeg too.

Heres the link for Rob and Joss mpeg video. Enjoy .
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.php?id=1PWLSB0FWTHCWWBRD0CROBK00

SapphireSister
09-11-2005, 08:11 PM
Anybody know where I can get Gwen Stefanis "Cool" performance from that show?

I recorded it. It was by far the best performance of the night. Gwen looked absoloutely beautiful in her Marilyn-esq get up, had no back up dancers, and sounded amazing. You really missed out!

AliceLover
09-11-2005, 08:58 PM
I recorded it. It was by far the best performance of the night. Gwen looked absoloutely beautiful in her Marilyn-esq get up, had no back up dancers, and sounded amazing. You really missed out!

I watched it, but it cut out when she walked out on stage. Then it cut back into the middle of the song. So i did see it, just didnt tape it.

Macfanforever
09-11-2005, 11:42 PM
I have the mpeg version here if anyone wants it. it's 48mb , 4:40 min long.
better then those crappy ra/wma video files on the web. also have Lindsey/Stevie Soundstage two song clip in mpeg too.

Heres the link for Rob and Joss mpeg video. Enjoy .
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.php?id=1PWLSB0FWTHCWWBRD0CROBK00

I will upload Lindsey/Stevie Soundstage two song clip later for anyone who needs it.

Raeven Skye
09-12-2005, 08:38 AM
Was anyone else reminded of the Funky Chicken watching Joss Stone on stage? :p She makes the mistake of thinking she has to fill every musical interlude with wailing. Overall, pretty uninspired, but the crowd really seemed to dig it. Their heads would explode if they saw Stevie sing it! hehe

Serrart
09-12-2005, 09:25 AM
I have just watched the video (thanks for the link :) ), and found the performance pretty flat but not really bad. It's just that everytime I listen Joss Stone even if I appreciate her singing skills she involves me emotionally as hearing the yearly economic report on watches sells in Switzerland.

Romy

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:38 PM
ok, I officially love Rob Thomas and not too sure about Joss Stone. She barely even sang the freakin' words. Rob looked like he wanted to rock out but Joss just got on my nerves. It was cool though to hear the applause for the song.

I love Rob Thomas (if you couldn't tell by what's in my sig.). I thought they both did a wonderful job with the song.

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 04:40 PM
I love Rob Thomas (if you couldn't tell by what's in my sig.). I thought they both did a wonderful job with the song.

:laugh: All I can tell by your sig. is that Coulter's head is on an actual females body :laugh:

(obvious levity here :wavey: )

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:40 PM
That's because Rob Thomas suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks. He's the musical equivalent of a brown envelope; plain, boring, and not very tasty. Joss Stone put her own spin on it, but the young girl has no idea what pitch is and she sings everything as if they may be the very last notes she'll ever sing, so she drags everything out to the point where you're asleep halfway through any random song she's singing. All that squealing drives me batty.

OH NO! Rob is the man...diss you are WAY off here! LOL :xoxo:

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 04:40 PM
I love Rob Thomas (if you couldn't tell by what's in my sig.). I thought they both did a wonderful job with the song.


btw, Ann Coulter is the spawn of the devil :wavey:

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:42 PM
:laugh: All I can tell by your sig. is that Coulter's head is on an actual females body :laugh:

(obvious levity here :wavey: )

haha... :) See...conservatives can be stylish. We are not all old men with terrible hair.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:43 PM
btw, Ann Coulter is the spawn of the devil :wavey:

Ok, yea...back to Rob and Joss.

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 04:44 PM
Ok, yea...back to Rob and Joss.


nah, let's talk more about Ann and what an evil human being she is :wavey:

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:45 PM
nah, let's talk more about Ann and what an evil human being she is :wavey:

See here guys, I don't always start this stuff! lol

:laugh: :wavey:

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 04:46 PM
nah, let's talk more about Ann and what an evil human being she is :wavey:


She is a two faced liar who would know how to tell the whole truth if she were tortured to do so.

Moreover, Stevie has prettier hair - seeing as how this is the Stevie forum and all :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:47 PM
She is a two faced liar who would know how to tell the whole truth if she were tortured to do so.

Moreover, Stevie has prettier hair - seeing as how this is the Stevie forum and all :laugh:

I will give you the hair bit! lol :laugh:

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 04:47 PM
She is a two faced liar who would know how to tell the whole truth if she were tortured to do so.

Moreover, Stevie has prettier hair - seeing as how this is the Stevie forum and all :laugh:


omg, Stevie has MUCH prettier hair ( whether it's real or not :p )

.. just look at Ann's eyes.. can't you just see the devil in them? i bet they turn red in the dark :nod:

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 04:48 PM
I will give you the hair bit! lol :laugh:

I will take any progress no matter how slight :laugh:

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 04:49 PM
omg, Stevie has MUCH prettier hair ( whether it's real or not :p )

.. just look at Ann's eyes.. can't you just see the devil in them? i bet they turn red in the dark :nod:

Well, mine were red in broad daylight :laugh:

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:50 PM
omg, Stevie has MUCH prettier hair ( whether it's real or not :p )

.. just look at Ann's eyes.. can't you just see the devil in them? i bet they turn red in the dark :nod:

That's why I could never be in politics...people are so ruthless and just say horrid things about you like you aren't even a person! Thank GOD Ann is the kind of person who just don't care...she don't care about the "boos". That's why I admire people like her and even Bill Maher (whom I disagree with, but find to be very funny, he is like the left-wing version of Ann...or so he says anyways).

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I will take any progress no matter how slight :laugh:

I mean nobody can beat Stevie's legendary locks! I think even Ann would agree and all, being a rock fan.

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 04:56 PM
Ann as i see her....

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 04:59 PM
Ann as i see her....

This is what makes you liberal and me conservative...we see things diff.

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 05:03 PM
This is what makes you liberal and me conservative...we see things diff.


us liberals don't see things differently, we see things clearly... you conservatives see things that you are told to see.. and you actually believe them :rolleyes:

dissention
09-12-2005, 05:10 PM
OH NO! Rob is the man...diss you are WAY off here! LOL :xoxo:

You must be joking. What a hack he is. Bland bland bland.

dissention
09-12-2005, 05:11 PM
nah, let's talk more about Ann and what an evil human being she is :wavey:

We'd be here for days.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:13 PM
us liberals don't see things differently, we see things clearly... you conservatives see things that you are told to see.. and you actually believe them :rolleyes:

Ok let's not turn this into a political debate please...I came to this thread to talk about the Rob/Joss cover.

Obviously "us conservatives" don't go looking for a point to prove, or a fight to pick, like "you liberals". Because you are bringing this up out of no where.

And just for your info, I was never TOLD what to believe...a conservative is something I choose to be, and I'm not ashamed of it either. Now a may be wrong, but doesn't liberal mean "more excepting of ideas", well you are just proving to be really excepting of conservative views. :rolleyes:

Now, please back to the topic...no hard feelings. :wavey:

dissention
09-12-2005, 05:13 PM
That's why I could never be in politics...people are so ruthless and just say horrid things about you like you aren't even a person! Thank GOD Ann is the kind of person who just don't care...she don't care about the "boos". That's why I admire people like her and even Bill Maher (whom I disagree with, but find to be very funny, he is like the left-wing version of Ann...or so he says anyways).

:lol:

What about the horrid things Ann The Man says about people as if they weren't even real people? C'mon, have a little perspective before you damn the very thing your idol makes her money by doing.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:14 PM
You must be joking. What a hack he is. Bland bland bland.

OH come now, you had to know I was a fan...sig!?! LOL

I really love his songwriting and the quality of his voice. His new solo album is really amazing! Very different than most of his material with Matchbox twenty.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:17 PM
:lol:

What about the horrid things Ann The Man says about people as if they weren't even real people? C'mon, have a little perspective before you damn the very thing your idol makes her money by doing.

You have to know when to take her serious and when to take a joke. Even she herself has said that a lot of libs. never really understand when she is trying to make a joke, and they just take it all too seriously. Some get that, some don't.

Jeez...why must we keep talking about this! lol. Every thread I go to I get the same stuff. Everyone (or about everyone) here knows where I stand politically, and the authors and columnists I choose to read. Let's move on. :nod:

dissention
09-12-2005, 05:20 PM
OH come now, you had to know I was a fan...sig!?! LOL

I honestly had no idea. I don't pay attention to him because he's always annoyed the **** out of me.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:21 PM
I honestly had no idea. I don't pay attention to him because he's always annoyed the **** out of me.

oh well to each his own. :nod:

dissention
09-12-2005, 05:26 PM
You have to know when to take her serious and when to take a joke. Even she herself has said that a lot of libs. never really understand when she is trying to make a joke, and they just take it all too seriously. Some get that, some don't.

Whose fault is that? It's kind of hard to know what's a joke and what isn't when the manly bitch accuses half the country of treason with a straight face, and then goes on national television in an attempt to demonstrate her point by making reference to how the majority of the country damned an "American hero" like Joe McCarthy. Her rhetoric is piss poor, her "research" can't even be called that, her demeanor is that of the studious cow on the debate team in high school who is now trying to get revenge on the popular kids 20 years later, and she can't open her mouth without a lie falling out. Her mouth and her asshole have become one in the same: both expel ****.

Serrart
09-12-2005, 05:33 PM
Whose fault is that? It's kind of hard to know what's a joke and what isn't when the manly bitch accuses half the country of treason with a straight face, and then goes on national television in an attempt to demonstrate her point by making reference to how the majority of the country damned an "American hero" like Joe McCarthy. Her rhetoric is piss poor, her "research" can't even be called that, her demeanor is that of the studious cow on the debate team in high school who is now trying to get revenge on the popular kids 20 years later, and she can't open her mouth without a lie falling out. Her mouth and her asshole have become one in the same: both expel ****.

I have only seen her on Larry King Live and she 's too arrogant for my tastes but that's a fault that's spread on both the sides all around the world. Why does she have so much attention? She must strike some chord with her tactics if she causes this kind of violent reactions. By the way if she loves Joe Mc Carthy Good Night, And Good Luck would be a nice Christmas gift for her. :D

Romy

Johnny Stew
09-12-2005, 05:37 PM
You have to know when to take her serious and when to take a joke. Even she herself has said that a lot of libs. never really understand when she is trying to make a joke, and they just take it all too seriously. Some get that, some don't.If she's trying to be funny, then she should present herself as a comedienne, rather than passing herself off as a political analyst.

She makes her money by saying outrageous, venomous things, and owes a huge debt to the Springerization of America.

If people were more interested in learning the facts of what's going on in our country, rather than simply nodding their heads like lobotomized mental patients and agreeing with everything these "in-your-face" talking heads shout about, we wouldn't be in the mess that we're in regarding healthcare, the economy, the environment, civil rights issues, and our new Vietnam War.

But this isn't the proper forum for this kind of conversation, and I'll get back down off my soapbox now.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:45 PM
I have only seen her on Larry King Live and she 's too arrogant for my tastes but that's a fault that's spread on both the sides all around the world. Why does she have so much attention? She must strike some chord with her tactics if she causes this kind of violent reactions. By the way if she loves Joe Mc Carthy Good Night, And Good Luck would be a nice Christmas gift for her. :D

Romy

She does, because she speaks the truth...whether anyone likes it or not. The pathetic attempts to disprove her facts by the likes of Al Franken, has been laughable at best. She stirs controversy because of her extremely right-wing views. And she doesn't fit the stereotypical "I'm so dead ugly" politician type that plagues the likes of people like Michael Moore.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:48 PM
If she's trying to be funny, then she should present herself as a comedienne, rather than passing herself off as a political analyst.

She makes her money by saying outrageous, venomous things, and owes a huge debt to the Springerization of America.

If people were more interested in learning the facts of what's going on in our country, rather than simply nodding their heads like lobotomized mental patients and agreeing with everything these "in-your-face" talking heads shout about, we wouldn't be in the mess that we're in regarding healthcare, the economy, the environment, civil rights issues, and our new Vietnam War.

But this isn't the proper forum for this kind of conversation, and I'll get back down off my soapbox now.

You can disagree with her all you like and call her names, but you can't call this woman stupid.

As an undergraduate in Cornell University's College of Arts and Sciences, Ann Coulter helped to launch a conservative newspaper, The Cornell Review, with funding provided by the Institute for Educational Affairs' Collegiate Network. She graduated cum laude from Cornell in 1984, and went on to receive her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review. At law school, Coulter shared an apartment with the human and civil rights advocate Cindy Cohn who is now the Legal Director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. At Michigan, she founded a local chapter of the Federalist Society. She also received training at the National Journalism Center. After practicing corporate law for four years, she became a congressional aide in Washington, D. C. in 1994, working as a staffer to Republican Senator Spencer Abraham, who served on the Senate Judiciary Committee before working for a public interest law firm.

This is not the background of a "stupid" individual. Yet we have "college drop outs" like Michael Moore who gain just as much, or even more attention! :rolleyes:

Neal
09-12-2005, 05:49 PM
Jeez...why must we keep talking about this! lol. Every thread I go to I get the same stuff. Everyone (or about everyone) here knows where I stand politically, and the authors and columnists I choose to read. Let's move on. :nod:


Poor Brwn_eyes :( .

I despise Ann just as much the next radical-left-wing fag, but I'm strangely tempted to stand up for you since you have made several attempts to stay on topic and no one else seems to want to. But I hate being flamed even more than I hate Republicans, so I'm gonna keep my mouth shut... :cool:

:wavey:

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Poor Brwn_eyes :( .

I despise Ann just as much the next radical-left-wing fag, but I'm strangely tempted to stand up for you since you have made several attempts to stay on topic. But I hate being flamed even more than I hate Republicans, so I'm gonna keep my mouth shut... :cool:

:wavey:

LOL. Thanks for seeing that I was trying to stay on topic. lol. This stuff just tends to follow me around the board...lol

I appreciate it though, very much! You lovely left-winger you. :xoxo:

LiquidBlue5000
09-12-2005, 05:59 PM
Whose fault is that? It's kind of hard to know what's a joke and what isn't when the manly bitch accuses half the country of treason with a straight face, and then goes on national television in an attempt to demonstrate her point by making reference to how the majority of the country damned an "American hero" like Joe McCarthy. Her rhetoric is piss poor, her "research" can't even be called that, her demeanor is that of the studious cow on the debate team in high school who is now trying to get revenge on the popular kids 20 years later, and she can't open her mouth without a lie falling out. Her mouth and her asshole have become one in the same: both expel ****.


you know, sometimes i really love you :xoxo: :wavey:

Johnny Stew
09-12-2005, 06:02 PM
You can disagree with her all you like and call her names, but you can't call this woman stupid.I don't recall calling her names.

As for her education... I know an awful lot of people with impressive educational credentials, and they still don't possess a lick of common sense.

So that don't impress me much. :shrug: :)

Beyond all that, I'd only be impressed with her if she was actually out there working to make this world a better place, rather than just making a fast buck prattling on about those God-awful liberals and their heinous attempts at making the world a better place for everyone, instead of only uptight white folk.

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 06:05 PM
I don't recall calling her names.



I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that 'you' specifically were calling her names...I was just speaking in general. Sorry for the confusion! :wavey:

Johnny Stew
09-12-2005, 06:08 PM
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that 'you' specifically were calling her names...I was just speaking in general. Sorry for the confusion! :wavey:No worries. :) :wavey:

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 06:35 PM
She does, because she speaks the truth...whether anyone likes it or not. The pathetic attempts to disprove her facts by the likes of Al Franken, has been laughable at best. She stirs controversy because of her extremely right-wing views. And she doesn't fit the stereotypical "I'm so dead ugly" politician type that plagues the likes of people like Michael Moore.

Her truth is only by half - she never tells the whole story - Personally, I think you should post that paper you said you wrote. I would love to read it because I think pretty much if her mouth is open, she is lying :laugh: But, you will never admit that - though you did admit she has better hair than Stevie's - which is a baby step to the truth :wavey:

strandinthewind
09-12-2005, 06:38 PM
You can disagree with her all you like and call her names, but you can't call this woman stupid.

As an undergraduate in Cornell University's College of Arts and Sciences, Ann Coulter helped to launch a conservative newspaper, The Cornell Review, with funding provided by the Institute for Educational Affairs' Collegiate Network. She graduated cum laude from Cornell in 1984, and went on to receive her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review. At law school, Coulter shared an apartment with the human and civil rights advocate Cindy Cohn who is now the Legal Director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. At Michigan, she founded a local chapter of the Federalist Society. She also received training at the National Journalism Center. After practicing corporate law for four years, she became a congressional aide in Washington, D. C. in 1994, working as a staffer to Republican Senator Spencer Abraham, who served on the Senate Judiciary Committee before working for a public interest law firm.

This is not the background of a "stupid" individual. Yet we have "college drop outs" like Michael Moore who gain just as much, or even more attention! :rolleyes:


Once again, you use logic to a fallacy. Not to discount the value of an education, but many many high school drop outs are geniuses - to wit:

Famous High School Dropouts
Part Two

Shaun Kerry, M.D.
Diplomate, American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology

• H.G. Wells.......best-selling British author (dropped out to help family earn income; later returned and went on to college)

• Jim Clark........self-made billionaire American businessman; founder of "Netscape"; first Internet billionaire (17, U.S. Navy)

• Jimmy Dean..........singer-songwriter-actor; self-made multimillionaire American businessman; founder of the "Jimmy Dean

• Andrew Jackson......7th U.S. President; face is pictured on the U.S. twenty dollar bill (13, U.S. Continental Army; orphaned at 14; little formal education; home schooling/life experience; studied law in his late teens and became a lawyer)

• Leon Uris..........best-selling American author (Exodus, etc.) (17, U.S. Marines)

• Walter L. Smith.....former president of Florida A&M University (equivalency diploma, at age 23)

• W. Clement Stone....self-made multimillionaire (some sources indicate billionaire) American businessman-author; founder of "Success" magazine (elementary school dropout; later attended high-school night courses and then some college)

• Jack London.......best-selling American author (dropped out at 14 to work; later gained admission to the University of California; left after one semester)

• Arthur Ernest Morgan....American flood-control engineer; college president-author; appointed by President Roosevelt to be director of the Tennessee Valley Authority public works project (left high school after three years; later attended the University of Colorado for six weeks)

• Ray Charles.........singer-pianist; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee

• Cher......Oscar-winning actress-singer

• Maurice Chevalier.... Oscar-winning actor-singer; French Legion of Honor inductee/Medal recipient (note: rank bestowed in 1938

• Pierce Brosnan......actor

• Ellen Burnstyn......Oscar-winning actress

• Raymond Burr.......actor

• Sammy Cahn.......... Oscar-winning American songwriter-composer

• Michael Caine.......Oscar-winning actor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Michael Caine)

• Glen Campbell.......country music star

• Daniel Gilbert......Harvard University psychology professor (equivalency diploma)

• Dizzy Gillespie.....musician-composer (received honorary diploma from high school he attended)

• Patrick Henry.......American Revolutionary War era politician; Virginia's first governor; famous quote: "Give me liberty, or give me death!" (little formal education; home schooling/life experience; later studied on his own and earned a law degree)

• Peter Jennings......Canadian-born American television journalist; evening news anchorman

• Ansel Adams.........American wilderness photographer; photography book author; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Julie Andrews.......Oscar-winning actress-singer

• Louis Armstrong.....singer-musician

• Brooke Astor........wealthy American socialite-philanthropist-author; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Pearl Bailey........singer-actress; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Lucille Ball........actress-comedienne-producer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Bill Bartman........self-made billionaire American businessman

• Count Basie.........bandleader-pianist

• Jack Benny.......... comedian-actor-violinist

• Humphrey Bogart.....Oscar-winning actor

• Peter Bogdanovich....Oscar-nominated American film director-screenwriter (The Last Picture Show, Paper Moon, Mask, etc.)

• Whoopie Goldberg....Oscar-winning actress-comedienne

• Benny Goodman.....bandleader-clarinetist

• Lew Grade.........British film/TV producer (TV: The Avengers, The Saint, Secret Agent, The Prisoner, The Muppet Show, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Lew Grade)

• Philip Emeagwali....supercomputer scientist; one of the pioneers of the Internet (high-IQ high-school dropout; left school in native Nigeria due to war conditions and lack of tuition money; continued to study on his own and earned an equivalency diploma; later won a scholarship to Oregon College of Education in the United States; transferred after one year to Oregon State University)

• Danny Thomas........actor-producer-humanitarian (actor: Make Room for Daddy/The Danny Thomas Show; co-producer: The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Andy Griffith Show, etc.); Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Peter Ustinov.......Oscar-winning actor

• Hiram Stevens.......American-born engineering inventor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Hiram Stevens)

• Patrick Stewart..... actor-writer-producer-director; former captain of the Enterprise on TV's Star Trek: The Next Generation and in films.

• Kemmons Wilson.......self-made multimillionaire American businessman; founder of the "Holiday Inn" hotel chain

• Kjell Inge Rokke.....self-made billionaire Norwegian businessman

• David Puttnam.......Oscar-winning British film producer (Chariots of Fire, Midnight Express, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir David Puttnam)

• Anthony Quinn.......Oscar-winning actor

• Julie London....... singer-actress

• Sophia Loren.......Oscar-winning actress; best-selling Italian-born author; former model (elementary school dropout)

• Joe Louis..........boxer; Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Roy Rogers..........actor-singer-guitarist

• Walter Nash.......New Zealand Prime Minister 1957-1960; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Walter Nash)

• Olivia Newton-John.... singer-actress; British-born Australian author

• Rosa Parks.........U.S. civil rights activist-pioneer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient; Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Mary Pickford......Oscar-winning actress; early Hollywood pioneer; co-founder of "United Artists Corporation" (little formal education [six months]; home schooling/life experience)

• Sydney Poitier.....Oscar-winning actor (elementary school dropout)

• Frederick "Freddy" Laker.... self-made multimillionaire British businessman; airline entrepreneur; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Frederick [or Freddy] Laker)

• Tommy Lasorda...... baseball team manager; National Baseball Hall of Fame inductee

• David Lean.........Oscar-winning British film director (Lawrence of Arabia, Dr .Zhivago, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir David Lean)

• Anton van Leeuwenhoek....Dutch microscope maker; world's first microbiologist; discoverer of bacteria, blood cells, and sperm cells)

• Richard Branson.....self-made billionaire British businessman; founder of "Virgin Atlantic Airways," "Virgin Records," etc.; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Richard Branson)

• Isaac Merrit Singer....American sewing machine inventor; self-made multimillionaire founder of "Singer Industries," "I.M. Singer and Company," etc. (elementary school dropout)

• Alfred E. Smith.....New York Governor; 1928 Democratic U.S. Presidential candidate (elementary school dropout)

• Charles Chaplin.....Oscar-winning actor-writer-director-producer; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Charles [or Charlie] Chaplin) (elementary school dropout)

• Sean Connery........Oscar-winning actor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Sean Connery)

• Jack Kent Cooke.....self-made billionaire Canadian-born American media businessman

• Noel Coward.........Oscar-winning actor-director-producer-playwright-composer; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Noel Coward) (elementary school dropout)

• Joan Crawford....... Oscar-winning actress; former dancer

• Charles E. Culpeper....self-made multimillionaire American businessman; early 1900s' owner and head of "The Coca Cola Bottling Company"

• Robert De Niro......Oscar-winning actor-producer; knighted (France: Chevalier [Knight] of the Legion of Honor; Chevalier [or Chev.] Robert De Niro)

• Gerard Depardieu....Oscar-nominated actor; knighted (France: Chevalier [or Chev.] Gerard Depardieu) (elementary school dropout)

• Richard Desmond.....self-made billionaire British publisher

• Thomas Dolby........ musician-composer; music producer

• Joe Lewis........self-made billionaire British businessman

• Carl Lindner.......self-made billionaire American businessman

• John Llewellyn.....U.S. Labor leader pioneer; for 40 years until his retirement, president of the United Mine Workers' Union

• Marcus Loew........self-made multimillionaire American businessman; early Hollywood pioneer; founder of the "Loews" movie-theater chain; co-founder of "MGM" studios (elementary school dropout)

• Mary Lyon.........American women's education pioneer; early American teacher; founder of Mount Holyoke College (America's first women's college)

• Sonny Bono...........singer-songwriter-actor; U.S. Congressman (California U.S. Representative)

• Duke Ellington......Oscar-nominated American composer-bandleader; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Ella Fitzgerald.....singer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Aretha Franklin....singer; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee

• Horace Greeley.... American newspaper publisher-editor; U.S. Congressman; 1872 U.S. Presidential candidate; co-founder of the Republican party in the United States

• Thomas Haffa......self-made double-digit billionaire German media businessman

• J.R. Simplot.......self-made billionaire American agricultural businessman

• Robert Maxwell.....self-made billionaire British publisher

• Rod McKuen.........best-selling American poet (elementary school dropout)

http://www.education-reform.net/dropouts2.htm

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 07:14 PM
Ok that was a pointless post. Yes I realize that you don't have to go to college to be considered smart. Some of the most brilliant individuals who have ever lived never went to school!

Brwn_eyes0511
09-12-2005, 07:16 PM
Her truth is only by half - she never tells the whole story - Personally, I think you should post that paper you said you wrote. I would love to read it because I think pretty much if her mouth is open, she is lying :laugh: But, you will never admit that - though you did admit she has better hair than Stevie's - which is a baby step to the truth :wavey:

I said I was in the process of writing a paper. But I would be glad to post others' responses to Al "I hate everyone" Franken's comments on Ann and her work.

xxxmx
09-12-2005, 07:45 PM
i didn't read alllllll the other pages, and though i would love to join the coultergeist bashing, i simply don't have the time.

SO...

about that rob&joss performance...

i want to brush that girl's hair and strap some sandals on her, allison just wants her to wear pants to cover up her spider legs. i can not stand that girl. and every performance cements that belief a little more... rob did fine, she killed it for me. allison said "mariah carey might as well have been singing that song" and she's very right. she makes everything sound like it's coming from a southern gospel group. and i like southern gospel groups. but not the kind that joss reminds me of. someone somewhere likened her to janis? bwah... janis nevah would have sold her skanky, ringwormy, shoeless soul to the GAP. put on some shoes and STOP COVERING STEVIE NICKS. joss is now a part of the Axis of Evil, her and each of her fugly toes.

:wavey:

skcin
09-12-2005, 08:05 PM
I didn't hate it, but it wasn't great. Slightly better than when Joss ruined Melissa Etheridge's cover of Piece of My Heart.

GODDESS6
09-13-2005, 06:32 AM
I didn't hate it, but it wasn't great. Slightly better than when Joss ruined Melissa Etheridge's cover of Piece of My Heart.
i agree, it was "cute" & joss seemed to be having fun singing it, but she is no stevie, i also have the joss/melissa cry baby/piece of my heart mp3 & i hate the 1st part w/ joss~ the girl does have a great soulful voice, but the long ooooooooowwwwwwwwww & yeahs & whatever you call the other sounds coming out at the end of ea verse & inbetween ea verse is just too much :distress: ~

tlssln
09-13-2005, 09:51 PM
I know - but I think this chick is a poser in her antics. I just hate it when singers sing ten notes where one ought to be. Interestingly, that is why I mostly cannot stand Whitney Houston and that ilk - I mean all that hand raising witnessing and a ten minute of note belting to end a song - not for me and IMO an insult to most legit. singers. But - to each their own.

Amen. I despise that, especially when they do it singing the national anthem.

strandinthewind
09-13-2005, 09:52 PM
Amen. I despise that, especially when they do it singing the national anthem.


I'd almost rather Rosanne's crotch grabbing version :laugh:

tlssln
09-13-2005, 10:04 PM
us liberals don't see things differently, we see things clearly... you conservatives see things that you are told to see.. and you actually believe them :rolleyes:

Lmao. I loved the pic too. Right on!

Macfanforever
09-13-2005, 10:20 PM
I know what Rob Thomas has done in music. what has Joss Stone have to offer.
I've never herd of her until now.

Livia
09-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Did anyone see Rob Thomas on Shelter from the Storm? He did "Time After Time." It wasn't bad. I don't like him, I don't dislike him. I just wish he and Tom Cruise would both get outta the closet already. :lol:

Glittermoondust
09-13-2005, 11:07 PM
i agree, it was "cute" & joss seemed to be having fun singing it, but she is no stevie, i also have the joss/melissa cry baby/piece of my heart mp3 & i hate the 1st part w/ joss~ the girl does have a great soulful voice, but the long ooooooooowwwwwwwwww & yeahs & whatever you call the other sounds coming out at the end of ea verse & inbetween ea verse is just too much :distress: ~

I agree Jill! This was the first time I have ever heard her sing and her voice does nothing for me :distress: The extra babbling just made it worse!