Stevie Nicks had an abortion??

[RockALittle250]

I was just reading on a bio website that Stevie had an abortion and was carrying Don Henley's child. Is that information true? If so, what year did this happen, and what did Stevie say she wanted the child's name to be?

[mylittledemon]

I was just reading on a bio website that Stevie had an abortion and was carrying Don Henley's child. Is that information true? If so, what year did this happen, and what did Stevie say she wanted the child's name to be?

I've heard this story a lot over the years, and to my knowledge Stevie has never made an official statement on the matter. But from what I heard, I *think* she did have an abortion. I don't know about it being Don Henley's kid...probably Jimmy Iovine's if anyone's.

[RockALittle250]

Newbies. They're so adorable.

I may be a newbie to this forum, but i have been a SN/FM fan since the mid 90's. But that doesn't answer my question.

[danax6]

I may be a newbie to this website, but i have been a SN/FM fan since the mid 90's. But that still doesn't answer my question.Don Henley once spilled that Stevie had an abortion and the baby was theirs. About any or all others, your guess is as good as mine. Nothing has ever been confirmed, just speculated. :)

[trackaghost]

Yes it's true Stevie had an abortion.

You might want to check out Mari's site and read the Vox article among others...

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/

[SapphireSister]

Didn't Don make some statement that was really rude or something about it? Anybody know what he said that was so offensive?

[LilyRose]

I'd take everything said in the Vox "interview" with a grain of salt.

This topic comes up every now and then. Don spilled the beans about the abortion that she had sometime in the 70s when they were dating, to Vanity Fair in the 90s. Stevie confirmed it. Don said he thought that she named the child Sara and that's what the song was about, but Stevie never confirmed that.

And that's pretty much all that's ever been said about it since.

Susie

[jjsigns]

I was just reading on a bio website that Stevie had an abortion and was carrying Don Henley's child. Is that information true? If so, what year did this happen, and what did Stevie say she wanted the child's name to be?
If Stevie wanted us to know about this she would have said something. It's really none of our business.

[ontheEdgeof17]

If Stevie wanted us to know about this she would have said something. It's really none of our business.


She has. She's told us in her songs. ;)

[dissention]

I'd take everything said in the Vox "interview" with a grain of salt.


Here we go again.

[diamondsnake]

Listen to Goodbye Baby and it is pretty straight forward with lyrics such as...

"Don't take me to the tower and take my child away"- don't take her to the abortion clinic

"I who was the hour glass"- she's pregnant

"And I who went to sleep as two, woke up as one"- that is pretty clear

"I'lll be with you one day"- They'll meet again in heaven

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!

[vermicious knid]

A baby breathing in the background?! I have to go try to hear that now.

[StevieNicksEO17]

Listen to Goodbye Baby and it is pretty straight forward with lyrics such as...

"Don't take me to the tower and take my child away"- don't take her to the abortion clinic

"I who was the hour glass"- she's pregnant

"And I who went to sleep as two, woke up as one"- that is pretty clear

"I'lll be with you one day"- They'll meet again in heaven

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!

Wow, Chris, I would have definitely never gotten any of that from those lyrics.

[GateandGarden]

Listen to Goodbye Baby and it is pretty straight forward with lyrics such as...

"Don't take me to the tower and take my child away"- don't take her to the abortion clinic

"I who was the hour glass"- she's pregnant

"And I who went to sleep as two, woke up as one"- that is pretty clear

"I'lll be with you one day"- They'll meet again in heaven

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!She didn't say this song was about Lindsey? I don't remember; I'm just asking.

Also, does a baby's breathing sound that different from an adult's. Again, I don't really know.

[StevieNicksEO17]

So, I'm listening to it now and I definitely don't hear any breathing at all. If I turn it really loud, it just gets kinda staticy, but that could be from my headphones. Anyone else hear the breathing?

[ontheEdgeof17]

There's also that belief that GB is about this topic because Stevie held her stomach while singing the song during the SYW Tour. It's not my belief, though.

[Schmoopy]

There's also that belief that GB is about this topic because Stevie held her stomach while singing the song during the SYW Tour. It's not my belief, though.Maybe she had one too many potatoes with her tea.

[danax6]

She didn't say this song was about Lindsey? I don't remember; I'm just asking.

Also, does a baby's breathing sound that different from an adult's. Again, I don't really know.

I read she made significant changes in the lyrics compared to the original written version. I believe that was done to include Lindsey in her goodbye song. I think it's both about Lindsey and her baby.

[dissention]

There's also that belief that GB is about this topic because Stevie held her stomach while singing the song during the SYW Tour. It's not my belief, though.

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard when it comes to La Nicks and that says a lot. :laugh:

[GypsySorcerer]

There's also that belief that GB is about this topic because Stevie held her stomach while singing the song during the SYW Tour. It's not my belief, though.
Same here. :cool:

[GypsySorcerer]

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard when it comes to La Nicks and that says a lot. :laugh:
What about that Kristen was the surrogate of Stevie and Lindey's love child? :laugh:

[WelshWitchPMD]

I believe that it was one of those 'Off The Record" radio interviews where Stevie did confirm it. She expressed that she was not too happy with Don for 'letting the cat out of the bag". I guess that they have since made up.

[strandinthewind]

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard when it comes to La Nicks and that says a lot. :laugh:

esp since she is not realy holding her stomach as much as she is hugging herself - at least to me.

Personally, I think the song is part of the Rhiannon series and is about the taking of Rhiannon's baby and telling her it died. Maybe, like in many of her other songs, Stevie personalized it, but I think it is about Rhiannon, which is not about La Nicks. But, until she talks about it, no one can claim they are correct and even then, who knows as her songs are often about more than one thing.

[ontheEdgeof17]

What about that Kristen was the surrogate of Stevie and Lindey's love child? :laugh:

The song about that is on the next album.

[dissention]

What about that Kristen was the surrogate of Stevie and Lindey's love child? :laugh:

Ooh, I forgot about that doozy! :laugh:

[GypsyNomad]

I didn't make this connection with the SYW version, but the demo, definitely... this verse is what got me....

And when you hold yourself and know that
There were two...
Now only you remain...

her vocals on this part of the demo are seriously heartbreaking...

*It could also be about the story of Rhiannon too, in the book, her son is taken away.... but who knows :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

. . .

And when you hold yourself and know that
There were two...
Now only you remain... . . . .

I think that also could be being in bed holding yourself and and wishing the person that was there (husband, etc. ) was there but now only you remain.

But, it certainly could be a child.

[GateandGarden]

I read she made significant changes in the lyrics compared to the original written version. I believe that was done to include Lindsey in her goodbye song. I think it's both about Lindsey and her baby.Maybe so. I know that the "The Tower" lyrics are different and I do think that the "Goodbye Baby" lyrics sound more like they're about Lindsey. "Hope your heart's not broken." "Yes, I was outspoken." I would be quicker to say that those are about Lindsey than a baby.

[diamondsnake]

So, I'm listening to it now and I definitely don't hear any breathing at all. If I turn it really loud, it just gets kinda staticy, but that could be from my headphones. Anyone else hear the breathing?
Listen to it at full volume on headphones and listen to the last ten seconds of the song. I swear is is a baby's breath.

But maybe I'm crazy. I listen to this song all the time when I can't fall asleep. I just put this song on repeat and lull myself to sleep if I'm having really bad insomnia.

[LongBlackScarf]

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...


Probably Stevie's dog snoring. :eek:

[GateandGarden]

Probably Stevie's dog snoring. :eek::laugh::laugh:

[diamondsnake]

Probably Stevie's dog snoring. :eek:

:laugh: Or even worse, it is probably John snoring! After seeing that documentary, he certainly didn't seem entertained playing the same songs day in and day out.

[GypsySorcerer]

Probably Stevie's dog snoring. :eek:
or John from boredom. :laugh:

[danax6]

Maybe so. I know that the "The Tower" lyrics are different and I do think that the "Goodbye Baby" lyrics sound more like they're about Lindsey. "Hope your heart's not broken." "Yes, I was outspoken." I would be quicker to say that those are about Lindsey than a baby.
Exactly. And wasn't 'Yes, I was outspoken.' added/edited later on? I think that's very significant. I don't think it was in the original version, but I am trying very hard to look that up now. :)

[StevieNicksEO17]

Probably Stevie's dog snoring. :eek:

:laugh: :lol: :laugh:

[danax6]

Exactly. And wasn't 'Yes, I was outspoken.' added/edited later on? I think that's very significant. I don't think it was in the original version, but I am trying very hard to look that up now. :)
Found it. And I was right. :)

So yes, The Tower was definitely about the baby, but Goodbye Baby is about them both. And I'm sticking with it. :p

[GateandGarden]

That is one extraordinarily well trained baby. To breathe that precisely in a such a complicated, syncopated rhythm, it must've taken years of training and practice to hone his skills.:lol::lol::lol:

[GateandGarden]

I hope everyone realizes that that was not purely meant as a joke. The only way that could be a baby is if it was a sampled baby breath, which kind of detracts from the symbolism and beauty of it.Are you being serious and stuff? I prefer that you not be. :laugh: ;)

[LongBlackScarf]

The only way that could be a baby is if it was a sampled baby breath, which kind of detracts from the symbolism and beauty of it.

I have always found that sampled baby's breath detracts from the symbolism and beauty of all my floral arrangements, too. I prefer to use Queen Anne's Lace. :D

[michelle2677]

I have always found that sampled baby's breath detracts from the symbolism and beauty of all my floral arrangements, too. I prefer to use Queen Anne's Lace. :D


:lol: :lol: :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

That is one extraordinarily well trained baby. To breathe that precisely in a such a complicated, syncopated rhythm, it must've taken years of training and practice to hone his skills.
Clearly it is not a real baby, Bobo. But, I think that was the idea the band was going for.

[LongBlackScarf]

Clearly it is not a real baby, Bobo. .

Shhh...now this isn't generally known, but for *certain songs* on SYW, Stevie, being the big I Love Lucy Fan that she is, dressed up a big hunk of Italian cheese to LOOK like a baby. She named it "Don" and claimed it looked (and SMELLED) EXACTLY like its father! ;) :thumbsup:

[Miss Vicky]

But maybe I'm crazy. I listen to this song all the time when I can't fall asleep. I just put this song on repeat and lull myself to sleep if I'm having really bad insomnia.

That certainly would make me fall asleep. :rolleyes:

I too have always been under the impression that "Goodbye Baby" was about her abortion. Though I probably just read it somewhere on some possibly no longer existing website and never cared enough to find any real evidence to support it. Still, the lyrics do suggest that theory.

[Johnny Stew]

I'll never know what the big deal is... I've had four abortions, too.
Of course, the last three were just to tick off the pro-lifers. :nod:

[dissention]

I'll never know what the big deal is... I've had four abortions, too.
Of course, the last three were just to tick off the pro-lifers. :nod:

I'm loving your signature. One of the few great tunes on the Hours album.

[Johnny Stew]

I'm loving your signature.Thanks! :xoxo:
I happen to be a "Thursday's Child," and the lyrics are fitting my life perfectly these days.

[GateandGarden]

I'll never know what the big deal is... I've had four abortions, too.
Of course, the last three were just to tick off the pro-lifers. :nod::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Who knew this thread would be so funny?

[HenleyFan]

For the record, it wasn't Vanity Fair...it was GQ.

I'd take everything said in the Vox "interview" with a grain of salt.

This topic comes up every now and then. Don spilled the beans about the abortion that she had sometime in the 70s when they were dating, to Vanity Fair in the 90s. Stevie confirmed it. Don said he thought that she named the child Sara and that's what the song was about, but Stevie never confirmed that.

And that's pretty much all that's ever been said about it since.

Susie

[SapphireSister]

For the record, it wasn't Vanity Fair...it was GQ.

And the Henley Fan comes out of lurking to represent! ;)

[Dreammms]

For the record, it wasn't Vanity Fair...it was GQ.


Welcome back :wavey:

[The Chain]

Does anyone know where I could find a downloadable version of the demo. All this talk makes me interested in hearing it.

[diamondsnake]

Off topic, but this smiley is so annoying and overused: :rolleyes:

This smiley face is rude!

[Mari]

This ledge is getting stranger everyday. Talking about abortions, lesbians, Stevie's 1001 relationships... I'd almost believe my page is becoming superfluous.
I'd almost like it here :laugh:

[trackaghost]

don't take her to the abortion clinic



I wish she had kept those lyrics.
I just know I'll be going round all day now singing to myself: "don't take me to the abortion clinic..."

[Miss Vicky]

Off topic, but this smiley is so annoying and overused: :rolleyes:

This smiley face is rude!

Oh no... here we go again. Smiley complaints.

Smiley complaints are annoying.

The smileys are there for our use. Therefore, until the administrators see fit to remove them, those of us that like the smileys will keep using them.

[GateandGarden]

I wish she had kept those lyrics.
I just know I'll be going round all day now singing to myself: "don't take me to the abortion clinic...":laugh::laugh::laugh:

[DrummerDeanna]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[LeighB04]

I'm trying to find the actual quote, but I recall Stevie admitting to 4 abortions, and saying something like, now she would have 4 little Stevies at her feet and could read them stories, or something to that effect... I'll keep looking, but if anybody else finds it, please post it so I can do some work! :nod:

[GypsyAsh]

Listen to Goodbye Baby and it is pretty straight forward with lyrics such as...

"Don't take me to the tower and take my child away"- don't take her to the abortion clinic

"I who was the hour glass"- she's pregnant

"And I who went to sleep as two, woke up as one"- that is pretty clear

"I'lll be with you one day"- They'll meet again in heaven

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!

Hey.. this is actually in response to your Jennifer Coolidge..(is that her name?) picture... I recognized her from a episode of the Ellen show... dude I have never laughed so hard... she was talking about how she used to call in all the time at her old waitressing job... and her excuses kept getting more and more elaborate... one excuse was that she was at a party and someone put a cigarette out in her eye and she even wore an eyepatch to work and around town to make it look legit... and it ended up screwing up her vision...
dude.. this story stuck with me... so when I saw your picture I just about died with laughter..
Yeah I know.. this has nothing to do with Stevie's Abortions..goodness gracious... but I'm not the first person who has replied 'off topic'.
I apologize..
Ciao!
Ash
x

[reebokandlace]

I think that also could be being in bed holding yourself and and wishing the person that was there (husband, etc. ) was there but now only you remain.



I have to agree with Strandinthewind....I have always interpreted the song this way.


I can't picture Stevie being dragged to the abortion clinic, although maybe she was talked into it. How many times have we had to hear her say she was talked into taking off her top for the Buckingham Nicks cover and regrets it to this day?? Makes her sound like she was young and gulliable and easy to manipulate.

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[reebokandlace]

I wish she had kept those lyrics.
I just know I'll be going round all day now singing to myself: "don't take me to the abortion clinic..."


Thank you for making me laugh so hard....I almost pee'd my pants when I read your post....

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[Kelly]

Uh, I have never read anything where Stevie said she would have "four little Stevie's" running around. I would like to see that.
I do recall her admitting that Don let the cat out of the bag with his GQ interview so she confirmed that one.
The interview from Europe where she talks about "four" of something...well, I dunno, I have read it and dont remember exactly what she said. I do not remember it being exactly cut and dry but I really hate to get into this debate again.
I do remember her saying in like 2001 that if she and Lindsey would have had a child "he would be 25 now". I always found that to be a rather interesting quote.

Goodbye Baby...the "don't take me to the tower line" could be about the Rhiannon myth but I think she was writing about her own experiences. (Stevie) I do not think the line was meant to be literal...as in no one was actually dragging her to some abortion clinic. I always thought the song was about a miscarriage anyway and the "take me to the tower" line could mean going to the hospital after or during..... The original Tower lyrics sound more like a miscarriage than an abortion to me. If she was writing about Rhiannon, I seriously doubt she would have named it as one of the most emotional songs to sing each night as she did in her Ask Stevie answers. There also would be no need to alter the song to make it sound like she was saying goodbye to a lover, as she did when she rewrote certain parts for SYW. SHe could have used the older lyrics and just said it was about the Rhiannon myth.
Plus, LBs production of the song, the tick tock lullabye quality, her wistful sad vocals, the way she looked when recording the song on the documentary..so vulnerable and quiet.......it all makes me think the song is deeply personal to both she and LB.
Just my opinion of course.

[David]

Goodbye Baby...the "don't take me to the tower line" could be about the Rhiannon mythOr to the Mag Tured (Moytura -- the Plain of Towers) in the legends of the Tuatha De Dannan, an ancient Irish people who practiced lore & magic & druidism & wizardry until they surpassed the sages of the arts of heathendom. The first battle of Moytura was fought between the Tuatha & the Fir Bolg; the Fir Bolg were routed & a hundred-thousand of them were slain, including their King Eochaid, son of Ere.
I always thought the song was about a miscarriage anyway and the "take me to the tower" line could mean going to the hospital after or during.The first thing I thought was, "How is a hospital like a tower?" But then I thought that Stevie is probably referring to the The Nanjing Drum Tower Hospital, founded in 1892 by Dr. William Macklin (a Disciples of Christ medical missionary). The hospital is named for its location beside the ancient drum tower of the city) & has a staff of nearly 2,100, including 223 physicians, who provide medical services to the residents of Nanjing & neighboring provinces!

[LeighB04]

I always interpreted the word "tower" to be a metaphor for the difficult situation she was in: deciding whether to have a baby or an abortion; kind of a trap from which she couldn't/wouldn't escape... I always felt those lines were her talking to herself.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I do remember her saying in like 2001 that if she and Lindsey would have had a child "he would be 25 now". I always found that to be a rather interesting quote.

Was this in an interview somewhere? I don't remember hearing about it.

Pip

[trackaghost]

I always interpreted the word "tower" to be a metaphor for the difficult situation she was in: deciding whether to have a baby or an abortion; kind of a trap from which she couldn't/wouldn't escape... I always felt those lines were her talking to herself.

Me too. I thought the tower she refers to is somewhere she can't escape from, a situation she can't ignore. The "don't take me to the abortion clinic..." line is funnier though.

[diamondsnake]

Oh no... here we go again. Smiley complaints.

Smiley complaints are annoying.

The smileys are there for our use. Therefore, until the administrators see fit to remove them, those of us that like the smileys will keep using them.

I like some smilies. This one is fun: :woohoo: But this one is ugly: :rolleyes:

[diamondsnake]

Hey.. this is actually in response to your Jennifer Coolidge..(is that her name?) picture... I recognized her from a episode of the Ellen show... dude I have never laughed so hard... she was talking about how she used to call in all the time at her old waitressing job... and her excuses kept getting more and more elaborate... one excuse was that she was at a party and someone put a cigarette out in her eye and she even wore an eyepatch to work and around town to make it look legit... and it ended up screwing up her vision...
dude.. this story stuck with me... so when I saw your picture I just about died with laughter..
Yeah I know.. this has nothing to do with Stevie's Abortions..goodness gracious... but I'm not the first person who has replied 'off topic'.
I apologize..
Ciao!
Ash
x
I wish I had seen that episode. I LOVE Jennifer Coolidge. She is hysterical in Joey. I can't wait for the new season to start. Did you see Cinderella Story where she played the over-botoxed evil Stepmother? It was comic gold!

[DeeGeMe]

Isn't there a hospital complex in LA that has towers in the title? Like the Cedar-Sinai Towers or something? Did I make that up?????

[HenleyFan]

Thanks....gotta speak up for Don every now and then. :)

L&M


And the Henley Fan comes out of lurking to represent! ;)

[Bandon]

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!

And if you play the song backwards, you hear:

"Paul is dead, man, miss him, miss him..." :laugh:

[paleshadow]

Listen to Goodbye Baby and it is pretty straight forward with lyrics such as...

"Don't take me to the tower and take my child away"- don't take her to the abortion clinic

"I who was the hour glass"- she's pregnant

"And I who went to sleep as two, woke up as one"- that is pretty clear

"I'lll be with you one day"- They'll meet again in heaven

And, on the SYW album there is a baby breathing in the background of the song if you listen real good...

Just my 2 cents!


I don't hear any breathing, baby or otherwise.

[vermicious knid]

I listened carefully to the last ten seconds, and there is something that sounds like breathing, but I don't think the intent was to portray a breathing baby because it is too deliberate and mechanical sounding.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I do remember her saying in like 2001 that if she and Lindsey would have had a child "he would be 25 now". I always found that to be a rather interesting quote.


Can anyone point me in the direction of this interview? Am I the only person who doesn't remember her saying this?

Pip

[Kelly]

Can anyone point me in the direction of this interview? Am I the only person who doesn't remember her saying this?

Pip


It was a TISL interview and not only did I read it back then, it was discussed on another board recently. Feel free to just dismiss my post as crazy talk though because I do not have the time to search for it right now.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

It was a TISL interview and not only did I read it back then, it was discussed on another board recently. Feel free to just dismiss my post as crazy talk though because I do not have the time to search for it right now.
Cool down! Since when have I dismissed your post or called it crazy talk?! I was simply interested in reading the interview and posted again as I thought my original post had been overlooked. I simply don't remember reading it myself and wondered if I were the only one! Crikey!

Pip

[StevieRox2]

In GB, I've wondered what the lyrics "and the sands of time like shattering glass went past me like a tunnel to the sea" mean. I've heard this song is about "the baby" and if it is, what do those lyrics mean with reference to "the baby"? I agree, when I saw the documentary of the making of GB and how Stevie looks at Liddy, it's about him, it looks as though she's gonna break into tears at any moment.

[lagringader&r]

Shhh...now this isn't generally known, but for *certain songs* on SYW, Stevie, being the big I Love Lucy Fan that she is, dressed up a big hunk of Italian cheese to LOOK like a baby. She named it "Don" and claimed it looked (and SMELLED) EXACTLY like its father! ;) :thumbsup:

Ok this was funny and I can't believe nobody commented on it. This made me laugh coz I've seen that one and it was hysterical. Poor Don tho. Smelling and looking like a big cheese.

I really can't believe anybody could think that Stevie would be so crass as to put a baby's breathing on one of her songs that might or might not be about an abortion. Or that she would hold her stomach. That whole idea is crass. Stevie has more class than that and she doesn't like to write or sing about sex openly, let alone *act out* abortion. I'm liberal but it's nothing I (or she, I'm sure) would take lightly. I think GB is her saying goodbye to Lindsey and their past relationship which she says in the song she never really had done. That is one song that I think is actually (and not just wishfully) about him. He's married, kids, all that and it seemed pretty clear that since they got together to make SYW, they also felt it was necessary to say *goodbye* to each other properly, therefore the two goodbye songs at the end of SYW. Not goodbye professionally, but goodbye personally with some feeling instead of the angry, mean way they did it before. It's called closure. Two awesome songs, btw.