I saw dead people

[DavidMn]

Ok, I was watching FOX today and Shepard Smith was on the I-10 in Downtown New Orleans, and they were showing dead bodies laying on the highway. Man if that doesnt get you, nothing will. :(

[LongBlackScarf]

Ok, I was watching FOX today and Shepard Smith was on the I-10 in Downtown New Orleans, and they were showing dead bodies laying on the highway. Man if that doesnt get you, nothing will. :(

There are dead people lying inside the Superdome as well. Not to mention those floating in the water. It's horrifying.

[estranged4life]

it will get worse before it gets better...Saw an elderly woman dead in her wheelchair, At least someone cared enough to leave a message with her body stating who she is.

Bill O'Reilly is ripping folkz on the fact that officials took 4 days to try to restore order, When he spoke to a New Orleans resident who is still in the French Quarter district, the resident said that "Jesus would come before help does", And this person lives right next door to the police HQ.

This resident did say one thing, that if you think about it, that is true:

"23% of all energy for the U.S. comes from this area of Louisiana....If they do not send help soon, then this county is screwed!"

[DavidMn]

it will get worse before it gets better...Saw an elderly woman dead in her wheelchair, At least someone cared enough to leave a message with her body stating who she is.

Bill O'Reilly is ripping folkz on the fact that officials took 4 days to try to restore order, When he spoke to a New Orleans resident who is still in the French Quarter district, the resident said that "Jesus would come before help does", And this person lives right next door to the police HQ.

This resident did say one thing, that if you think about it, that is true:

"23% of all energy for the U.S. comes from this area of Louisiana....If they do not send help soon, then this county is screwed!"
You know, that person that left the note on the Dead ladys wheelchair, sometimes little things like that go unnoticed. But If that helpe her family to find her sooner, as far as I'm concerned, whoever that person is is a saint. :angel:

[michelle2677]

This resident did say one thing, that if you think about it, that is true:

"23% of all energy for the U.S. comes from this area of Louisiana....If they do not send help soon, then this county is screwed!"


great..that makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. well...I'm not going to complain if something happens..(sh*t..who am I kidding..yes I will*L* ) buuuuut.....compared to what they are going thru...it's a walk in the park. I just keep thinking-I'm sitting here in the comfort of my home...posting on a Fleetwood Mac message board, and there are people that can't eat, drink, use the bathroom. it's sad :(

[DavidMn]

great..that makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. well...I'm not going to complain if something happens..(sh*t..who am I kidding..yes I will*L* ) buuuuut.....compared to what they are going thru...it's a walk in the park. I just keep thinking-I'm sitting here in the comfort of my home...posting on a Fleetwood Mac message board, and there are people that can't eat, drink, use the bathroom. it's sad :(
Well, I have had feelings of guilt here as well. I mean for the last week here, its been sunny and 75. I am soooo thankful for what I have.

[DavidMn]

You know, we all will feel guilty from time to time about this situation. I hope that this is a wakeup call to all of us that it can go at any time, and we should take stock everyday and appriciate the little things. :angel:

[DrummerDeanna]

Yeah - I feel silly complaining about little things now - there is so much that we take for granted.

I thankfully, have not seen any images of the dead - what's really getting me is the rapes that are taking place at the convention center :distress: Seems like anarchy really is taking over there...

This whole thing is just awful.

[DavidMn]

:thumbsup: Yeah - I feel silly complaining about little things now - there is so much that we take for granted.

I thankfully, have not seen any images of the dead - what's really getting me is the rapes that are taking place at the convention center :distress: Seems like anarchy really is taking over there...

This whole thing is just awful.
Whichever branch of the authorities is going in there in the next couple days needs to flat out KICK ASS and not take any crap from anyone, period. :thumbsup:

[DrummerDeanna]

:thumbsup:
Whichever branch of the authorities is going in there in the next couple days needs to flat out KICK ASS and not take any crap from anyone, period. :thumbsup:


Which is kind of hard now that the criminals have guns too :distress:

I mean - today there was news of sniper shots to a hospital - and helicopters..wtf!?! It's all so tragic...

[dissention]

If they are showing images of the dead, that's in incredibly poor taste, it's disrespectful, and they should be ashamed of themselves.

[estranged4life]

Yeah - I feel silly complaining about little things now - there is so much that we take for granted.

with all the BS from what is the story of my life the past couple of years...I take nuthin' for granted (Even with my health currently declining).

[DavidMn]

Which is kind of hard now that the criminals have guns too :distress:

I mean - today there was news of sniper shots to a hospital - and helicopters..wtf!?! It's all so tragic...
I heard most of them got the guns from(Surprise) looting gun stores. :mad:

[estranged4life]

If they are showing images of the dead, that's in incredibly poor taste, it's disrespectful, and they should be ashamed of themselves.

but I am afraid there's going to be more of the dead shown.

I am sure looters will start to kill one another (I have no problem with looting items such as food/water to survive...But brand new 2005 Cadillacs and DVD/stereo systems???), This is slowly turning into a "Bloodbath in Paradise".

[DavidMn]

but I am afraid there's going to be more of the dead shown.

I am sure looters will start to kill one another (I have no problem with looting items such as food/water to survive...But brand new 2005 Cadillacs and DVD/stereo systems???), This is slowly turning into a "Bloodbath in Paradise".
Are they really stealing Cadillacs now? Good lord :mad:

[DavidMn]

If they are showing images of the dead, that's in incredibly poor taste, it's disrespectful, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Yes, but when I saw the image on FOX today, the reporter warned that the images we are about to seee are very disturbing. But I still tend to agree with you.

[estranged4life]

Are they really stealing Cadillacs now? Good lord :mad:

according to a reporter for CNN (Thank God for digital satellite) they are looting stuff not for survival purposes. A person interviewed said he watched people just stealing Cadillacs left-and-right at a new car dealership in downtown N'Orleans.

About the dead woman in the wheelchair, Here is a piece I CC&P that is brutally truthful:

"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here."

[DavidMn]

according to a reporter for CNN (Thank God for digital satellite) they are looting stuff not for survival purposes. A person interviewed said he watched people just stealing Cadillacs left-and-right at a new car dealership in downtown N'Orleans.

About the dead woman in the wheelchair, Here is a piece I CC&P that is brutally truthful:

"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here."
Wow, what a hard hitting statement. :nod:

[BombaySapphire3]

To add to the horror alot of the bodies seen floating down the streets are reported to have bullet holes in them ,so they were murdered .A couple were reported to be girls aged 12 to 15.Really I think some of the sharks and alligators said to be swimming around down there have more humanity than some of these 'humans' that are taking advantage of this horrific disaster.

[DavidMn]

To add to the horror alot of the bodies seen floating down the streets are reported to have bullet holes in them ,so they were murdered .A couple were reported to be girls aged 12 to 15.Really I think some of the sharks and alligators said to be swimming around down there have more humanity than some of these 'humans' that are taking advantage of this horrific disaster.
Yeah, they probably dont need to show that on tv.

[estranged4life]

N'Orleans could easily be any other major city in the U.S., After a major earthquake or after a major terrorist attack.

A terrorist attack at this time is a scary, but a realistic thought.

[DavidMn]

N'Orleans could easily be any other major city in the U.S., After a major earthquake or after a major terrorist attack.

A terrorist attack at this time is a scary, but a realistic thought.
that's a really good point.

[DavidMn]

here's another thing. Is the military or whoever takes back control going to be shooting these hoodlums on sight?

[sara1998]

N'Orleans could easily be any other major city in the U.S., After a major earthquake or after a major terrorist attack.

A terrorist attack at this time is a scary, but a realistic thought.

You've just about made me physically ill.... That's scary.

[golddustwoman77]

according to a reporter for CNN (Thank God for digital satellite) they are looting stuff not for survival purposes. A person interviewed said he watched people just stealing Cadillacs left-and-right at a new car dealership in downtown N'Orleans.

About the dead woman in the wheelchair, Here is a piece I CC&P that is brutally truthful:

"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here."


I couldn't agree with those last two sentences anymore! :nod: We have Tsunami Relief Concerts, and we give millions and millions of dollars to their relief efforts. Granted, it was the right thing to do and for a good cause. Yet, we won't hardly be seeing any of that for our own "tsumami." It is ridiculous! We should help each other in times of need. Where is the outcry? Where are the celebrities?

Finally, the fact that people would steal from people who have nothing, but the clothes on their backs, makes me sickier than seeing the dead bodies on TV. If hell exists, these people who are looting for capital gain, not survival, are so going!!!!!! :mad:

[estranged4life]

You've just about made me physically ill.... That's scary.

but seeing a news clip of another threat from OBL's bunch and then showing one of the terrorist who plans to carry-out this upcoming attack has bothered me this evening...

I feel something is coming and it isnt goin' to be pretty.

[Livia]

Are they really stealing Cadillacs now? Good lord :mad:

Yes - Lincolns too, Mercuries and Subarus

(Disclaimer: I am NOT intending to make light of this tragedy at all, but you set it up so perfectly, I couldn't help it.)

Humanity is an interesting thing, isn't it? I just cannot fathom what would cause someone to shoot at hospital personnel? What are they gaining from that? How do you explain that? They have quite simply, gone crazy. :shrug:

I was thinking today about that awesome aquarium in NOLA. What happens w/ the marine life? What about the zoo?

[lbelle1214]

N'Orleans could easily be any other major city in the U.S., After a major earthquake or after a major terrorist attack.

A terrorist attack at this time is a scary, but a realistic thought.

I thought about that also....my daughter and son-in-law (in the military) said they were thinking the same thing....the "kick 'em when they're down" syndrome. :distress:

[lbelle1214]

In an earlier post I read something about where were the celebrities. VH1 has an article about an upcoming concert series to raise money for hurricane victims. People are trying..

[Livia]

I posted on the Katrina thread about the concert, but I don't think anyone noticed. I didn't want to start a whole new thread about it...it's tomorrow nite, will be on NBC and MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9146525/

MSNBC.com

NBC to hold concert for Katrina victims
Tim McGraw, Wynton Marsalis among artists to perform Friday night
Reuters
Updated: 5:47 p.m. ET Sept. 1, 2005

LOS ANGELES - Four Louisiana-born stars — Harry Connick Jr., Wynton Marsalis, Aaron Neville and Tim McGraw — will headline a televised charity concert to air live on Friday for victims of Hurricane Katrina, NBC said Wednesday. McGraw's wife, country star and Mississippi native Faith Hill, will also perform.

Plans for the one-hour, commercial-free show, called “A Concert for Hurricane Relief,” were announced as the Bush administration and Congress began working on legislation to assist in hurricane recovery efforts.

“I am heartbroken by the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina in my home state,” said country star McGraw, born in Delhi, Louisiana, in a statement. “It’s at times like these that each of us must work together to provide life-saving aid to those in terrible need.”

Joining McGraw are two New Orleans natives, trumpet player Marsalis and jazz singer Connick, whose hometown was left largely submerged in floodwaters.

In addition to music, the special will feature appearances by actors Leonardo DiCaprio, Mike Myers, John Goodman, Lindsay Lohan and Eriq La Salle, New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning, who is a Louisiana native, along other celebrities.

Katrina has claimed more than 200 lives, left tens of thousands of people homeless and caused billions of dollars in damage since slamming into the U.S. Gulf Coast Monday.

NBC aired a similar star-studded charity concert in January that raised more than $18 million for survivors of the tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands of people and left millions more homeless in South Asia and East Africa. An estimated 19.5 million viewers tuned in to some part of that broadcast on NBC and its sibling cable TV outlets.

(MSNBC is a joint venture between NBC and Microsoft.)

Both efforts were reminiscent of a two-hour telethon carried by all four major U.S. TV networks 10 days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America. That special raised more than $150 million in pledges.
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.

© 2005 MSNBC.com

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9146525/

[Livia]

Here's the VH1 concert - Sept. 10th

http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1508739/20050831/usher.jhtml?headlines=true

Usher, Green Day, Ludacris and Alicia Keys are among the artists who have signed on for a Hurricane Katrina relief concert that will span four cities, three television networks and several musical genres.

Dave Matthews Band, Rob Thomas, Linkin Park's Chester Bennington, David Banner, Gretchen Wilson and John Mellencamp will also take part in the shows, which will be staged in New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta and Nashville on September 10 and will air live on MTV, VH1 and CMT. Additional artists will be added to the lineup soon, and proceeds from the show will go to the American Red Cross.

"In the face of a tragedy of this scope, we simply have to do everything in our power to offer support, comfort and hope to all the people directly impacted by the hurricane," Judy McGrath, chair and CEO of MTV Networks, said Wednesday (August 31) of the concerts. "Our goal is to join forces on every medium to get involved, to volunteer, to contribute in any way we can."

The concerts are part of a larger awareness campaign that will also include an MTV News special on Katrina relief efforts, on-campus resources, and information across all the network's channels regarding aid and activism.

MTV's parent company, Viacom, also announced that it has contributed $1 million to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Effort.

Hundreds are feared dead and tens of thousands are without shelter in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama in the hurricane's wake (see "Katrina Devastates New Orleans; Mississippi Death Toll Rises To Over 110"). Flood waters continued to rise in New Orleans on Wednesday, further plunging the city into chaos. President George W. Bush has called the hurricane "one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." He devoted federal resources to the aid effort, but called on private citizens to do their part as well.

[This story was originally published at 6:48 p.m. ET on 08.31.2005]

[SuzeQuze]

here's another thing. Is the military or whoever takes back control going to be shooting these hoodlums on sight?

I think that they should shoot anyone who is pointing a weapon because it will save innocent lives. It is so horrible I'm so disgusted with those bastards.

[estranged4life]

the NBC concert, At least there's a few artists I like unlike the one on VH1 (Not a fan of any of those artists.)

[AliceLover]

The bodies lieing dead in the superdome really freak me out. Knowing that you had a safe place to be when this storm hit and then you are dead. Makes me so sad.

[Dreammms]

To add to the horror alot of the bodies seen floating down the streets are reported to have bullet holes in them ,so they were murdered .A couple were reported to be girls aged 12 to 15.Really I think some of the sharks and alligators said to be swimming around down there have more humanity than some of these 'humans' that are taking advantage of this horrific disaster.

that is so terrible and so sad. i wish these people would get the help they need.

[AliceLover]

that is so terrible and so sad. i wish these people would get the help they need.

The fact that there are wild animals running around these waters really freak me out. How sad would it be if you were bit by an alligator in this situation. God I feel so bad for these people.

[Dreammms]

The fact that there are wild animals running around these waters really freak me out. How sad would it be if you were bit by an alligator in this situation. God I feel so bad for these people.

that would be pretty bad. but how about walking with your child and all of a sudden getting shot at? or getting raped?

[AliceLover]

that would be pretty bad. but how about walking with your child and all of a sudden getting shot at? or getting raped?

Don't even want to think about it!!! :distress:

[catinthedark]

If they are showing images of the dead, that's in incredibly poor taste, it's disrespectful, and they should be ashamed of themselves.

I disagree. It's reality. It is what happened. Should the government hide it, the way they do the US soldiers' bodies coming home from Iraq?

And funnily enough, no one seems to freak out when we see the bodies of the innocent blown to bits in Iraq. Or Israel. Or anywhere else far, far away.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I disagree. It's reality. It is what happened. Should the government hide it, the way they do the US soldiers' bodies coming home from Iraq?

And funnily enough, no one seems to freak out when we see the bodies of the innocent blown to bits in Iraq. Or Israel. Or anywhere else far, far away.

It's just dissention...

he says that because it's Fox News...haha

I say that with love dis. :xoxo:

[dissention]

I disagree. It's reality. It is what happened. Should the government hide it, the way they do the US soldiers' bodies coming home from Iraq?

And funnily enough, no one seems to freak out when we see the bodies of the innocent blown to bits in Iraq. Or Israel. Or anywhere else far, far away.

Would you like the news organizations to show images and video footage of YOUR decaying dead body floating aorund in sewage for the world to see? Should they have shown the bodies of those who perished on 9/11 for everyone to see?

As for Iraq and all of those other places you mentioned, I sure as **** do freak out when they show bodies. It's the ultimate way to disrespect the dead, to not allow them their dignity after death.

[dissention]

It's just dissention...

he says that because it's Fox News...haha

I say that with love dis. :xoxo:

No, I'm saying it because I find it repulsive and inhuman that the news media would rob the dead of their dignity.

[Dreammms]

No, I'm saying it because I find it repulsive and inhuman that the news media would rob the dead of their dignity.

I agree with you on that Josh.

Also imagine that person being your grandma/friend/etc. and seeing their dead body over and over on tv?

[catinthedark]

Would you like the news organizations to show images and video footage of YOUR decaying dead body floating aorund in sewage for the world to see? Should they have shown the bodies of those who perished on 9/11 for everyone to see?

As for Iraq and all of those other places you mentioned, I sure as **** do freak out when they show bodies. It's the ultimate way to disrespect the dead, to not allow them their dignity after death.

Sadly, there were no bodies to show of the first victims of Sept. 11th. The news media then made a collective decision, one I agree with, not to show the people who were jumping to their deaths.

But I continue to disagree that the news media should whitewash what happens by pretending the death and destruction isn't there. Be it in New Orleans or Iraq. This is the world we live in. It has nothing to do with respect or disrespect. There is a lot of talk out there that there could have been better preparation before Katrina. If the reality on the ground is whitewashed, what will be learned? What will change?

Similarly, I ask again, should the US government continue to hide the bodies of US soldiers being brought back from Iraq? By doing so, they are whitewashing the reality of war - and the fact that 1000+ Americans have died there. Nevermind the thousands of innocent Iraqis.

The role of the news media is to reflect reality. Lord knows, we have enough sensationalism on the "news" around the world. What is wrong with turning on a camera and saying "this is what happened. This is the scene. This is the awful truth."

[dissention]

Sadly, there were no bodies to show of the first victims of Sept. 11th. The news media then made a collective decision, one I agree with, not to show the people who were jumping to their deaths.

But I continue to disagree that the news media should whitewash what happens by pretending the death and destruction isn't there. Be it in New Orleans or Iraq. This is the world we live in. It has nothing to do with respect or disrespect. There is a lot of talk out there that there could have been better preparation before Katrina. If the reality on the ground is whitewashed, what will be learned? What will change?

Similarly, I ask again, should the US government continue to hide the bodies of US soldiers being brought back from Iraq? By doing so, they are whitewashing the reality of war - and the fact that 1000+ Americans have died there. Nevermind the thousands of innocent Iraqis.

The role of the news media is to reflect reality. Lord knows, we have enough sensationalism on the "news" around the world. What is wrong with turning on a camera and saying "this is what happened. This is the scene. This is the awful truth."

Again, would like your rotting dead body that's floating in sewage to be shown for everyone to see all across the world? Or, like Danielle said, would you like the body of your grandma or relatives to be shown like that? Making a conscious decision not to show the bodies of the dead does not whitewash this tragedy, it allows the innocent people who died to have dignity after death. The news media did not show the bodies of the victims of 9/11 and everyone understood perfectly what a tragedy it was. I, personally, find it offensive and incomprehensible for someone to argue that these people should be disrespected after death simply because people have a right to see "reality." There is nothing to be learned from seeing their dead bodies and to essentially rape them of any dignity is wrong.

[WELSH WITCH]

I've been watching CNN most of the day and there was a story on about the airport of NO. It's been converted to a field hospital. Whenever there are people coming in they get the once over to see how bad they are hurt ot how sick they are. People that are too sick are left to die because there is just not enough medication to treat everybody.

I don't mind them showing dead bodies, let the outside know what it's like.

Did anyone hear the interview with NO's mayor?????
I love that guy.

[estranged4life]

No, I'm saying it because I find it repulsive and inhuman that the news media would rob the dead of their dignity.

back during the rescue of the injured in the Murrah Building a couple of idiots who worked for either Oprah or Inside Edition, Dressed as rescuers to get inside the building to get pictures of the devastation and dead...

Luckily they were caught, their film confiscated and they eventaully were sentenced to jail/prison.

[DavidMn]

Yes - Lincolns too, Mercuries and Subarus

(Disclaimer: I am NOT intending to make light of this tragedy at all, but you set it up so perfectly, I couldn't help it.)

Humanity is an interesting thing, isn't it? I just cannot fathom what would cause someone to shoot at hospital personnel? What are they gaining from that? How do you explain that? They have quite simply, gone crazy. :shrug:

I was thinking today about that awesome aquarium in NOLA. What happens w/ the marine life? What about the zoo?
I didnt take any offense. no problem

[DavidMn]

I think that they should shoot anyone who is pointing a weapon because it will save innocent lives. It is so horrible I'm so disgusted with those bastards.
Right on. Like I said, it'stime to go in and Kick ass!! :mad:

[DavidMn]

that would be pretty bad. but how about walking with your child and all of a sudden getting shot at? or getting raped?
I just hope they have some way of identifying these a-holes after this all clears up so they can rot in jail where they belong!!!