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LongBlackScarf
08-31-2005, 11:29 PM
I was at a wine tasting last night and my friend Rich is a Mac Fan as well. He heard Mick had a wine out on the market--I guess it was recently mentioned in Wine Spectator Magazine. He said he felt it was pretty extraordinary for a former "raging alcoholic" to get into wine making. I said Mick's pretty much a money-grubbing ho, and he'd sell the paint of his Granny's house for a buck. :rolleyes: Anyway--has anyone sampled this wine? I guess it's only available in California?

johndoe
08-31-2005, 11:55 PM
I was at a wine tasting last night and my friend Rich is a Mac Fan as well. He heard Mick had a wine out on the market--I guess it was recently mentioned in Wine Spectator Magazine. He said he felt it was pretty extraordinary for a former "raging alcoholic" to get into wine making. I said Mick's pretty much a money-grubbing ho, and he'd sell the paint of his Granny's house for a buck. :rolleyes: Anyway--has anyone sampled this wine? I guess it's only available in California?


I think I saw some of that on ebay, actually. Search "Fleetwood Mac Memorabillia. Its in the last pages somewhere..

Dreammms
09-01-2005, 12:40 AM
you can order it here....


http://www.premiumdistributors.net/Wines.htm

LongBlackScarf
09-01-2005, 12:55 AM
you can order it here....


http://www.premiumdistributors.net/Wines.htm

Thanks for that link. :wavey: Somehow, I expected a box. :laugh: No seriously--I may order it just for curiousity but I was hoping someone had actually *tasted* the stuff. I suppose I could always make Mick Fleetwood salad dressing with it. :p

HomerMcvie
09-01-2005, 01:52 AM
Thanks for that link. :wavey: Somehow, I expected a box. :laugh: No seriously--I may order it just for curiousity but I was hoping someone had actually *tasted* the stuff. I suppose I could always make Mick Fleetwood salad dressing with it. :p
http://www.premiumdistributors.net/sqlcart/engine.asp?cmd=listitems&imagesize=small&filter=ItemUD2:2002%20Pinot%20Noir%20Cuvee
What is a "wet" signature?

PenguinHead
09-01-2005, 11:59 AM
I'm surprised that Mick wasn't more blatent in his marketing. I would assume he would have capatilized more closely on Fleetwood Mac's name to sell his swill. Rumours Wine, maybe? Rhiwinon? Say You Wine? (I know there are better ones out there.)

MACFAN
09-01-2005, 01:18 PM
Who has bought this wine and how good is it?

Richard B
09-01-2005, 01:23 PM
I'm surprised they were not at the merch booths during the Say You Will Tour. Shocking.

DavidMn
09-01-2005, 05:36 PM
I was at a wine tasting last night and my friend Rich is a Mac Fan as well. He heard Mick had a wine out on the market--I guess it was recently mentioned in Wine Spectator Magazine. He said he felt it was pretty extraordinary for a former "raging alcoholic" to get into wine making. I said Mick's pretty much a money-grubbing ho, and he'd sell the paint of his Granny's house for a buck. :rolleyes: Anyway--has anyone sampled this wine? I guess it's only available in California?
I wonder if its any good?

LongBlackScarf
09-01-2005, 05:39 PM
Who has bought this wine and how good is it?

Apparently no one from here. So far. Because that was my original question. Why buy some vinegary rot gut just because it's got Mick's picture on it. If it's GOOD wine it'd be a fun experience. Have some friends over, some cheese, and a glass of aged drummer. :p

sodascouts
09-01-2005, 05:41 PM
OK, I will admit it, I bought a bottle. But I haven't opened it. I'm saving it for my next gathering of Fleetwood Mac Friends! lol Indeed that's why I bought it. I thought it'd be fun to share a glass of Mick's wine with my fellow fans.

LongBlackScarf
09-01-2005, 06:01 PM
OK, I will admit it, I bought a bottle. But I haven't opened it. I'm saving it for my next gathering of Fleetwood Mac Friends! lol Indeed that's why I bought it. I thought it'd be fun to share a glass of Mick's wine with my fellow fans.

What time can I come over? :) I'll bring some really, really nice cheese!! :) You know...the kind that's all specially individually wrapped? :D

Jessica Leigh
09-01-2005, 06:23 PM
i got a bottle for my birthday from a friend who's a restaurant manager at a place in socal where mick goes sometimes. it's sitting here and i've been debating whether to keep it unopened or open it and drink it. the bottle is sort of cool so i'll always keep the bottle- but i don't think i really care if it's full or not. maybe i'll have some people over tonight and drink it... and if we do, i'll be back here later to let you all know how it is

it says 75% merlot and 25% cabernet... i'm much more of a cab fan but hey, we'll see how it goes.

reebokandlace
09-01-2005, 06:59 PM
maybe i'll have some people over tonight and drink it... and if we do, i'll be back here later to let you all know how it is

it says 75% merlot and 25% cabernet... i'm much more of a cab fan but hey, we'll see how it goes.


http://www.websmileys.com/sm/drink/trink02.gif

Hopefully it will taste good...I'd be too afraid to try it....

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif

Jessica Leigh
09-01-2005, 07:03 PM
with my luck i've got a bottle that turned to vinegar 4 years ago :eek:

DavidMn
09-01-2005, 07:06 PM
I wonder if the label has Mick's likeness on it?

Jessica Leigh
09-01-2005, 07:15 PM
I wonder if the label has Mick's likeness on it?

it does- sort of a pensive profile shot.... with a big "MF" on the top part of the label... i looked at it and just laughed.

LongBlackScarf
09-01-2005, 07:22 PM
I wonder if the label has Mick's likeness on it?

There's a link provided in this thread that shows you the labels on the bottles.

DavidMn
09-01-2005, 07:24 PM
There's a link provided in this thread that shows you the labels on the bottles.
Oh ok thank you, I missed that.

DavidMn
09-01-2005, 07:32 PM
Nice Label. I like it.

Neb-Maat-Re
09-01-2005, 08:44 PM
he'd sell the paint of his Granny's house for a buck. :rolleyes:

As long as he doesn't use it to improve the wine.

DavidMn
09-02-2005, 03:15 PM
I remember that whole Australia house Fiasco he had in the early 80's. That didnt help him financially either.

dontlookdown
09-06-2005, 04:34 PM
Mick could never have been classified as a "raging alcoholic" although the guy did like to party in his younger days. He never had the addiction issues that most of the rest of the band had. Or at least to the extent of the other members.

I've seen the wine in a few spots in LA where "better wine" is sold and it definitely comes from good vineyards - the Pinot Noir especially.
Why is it that everytime Mick gets involved in some kind of hobby or venture he gets labeled a money-grabbing ho on this site?
The man is interested, he's present, he's living everyday to the fullest and if he wants to have fun with some winemaking let him have at it.
He deserves some **** for having a cheesey label, but the wine itself seems very respectable.

There are plenty of corporate executives out there who make living like a money-grabbing ho their #1 goal in life - go make fun of those Republican folks and cut Mick some slack.

LongBlackScarf
09-06-2005, 08:47 PM
Mick could never have been classified as a "raging alcoholic" although the guy did like to party in his younger days. He never have the addiction issues that most of the rest of the band had. Or at least to the extent of the other members.

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Ever see "Two Sticks And A Drum"? Mick's Autobio? He's described his addiction, and how bad he got with alcoholism. Addiction is addiction. There are no "better" or "lesser" addictions. In his own words "I was a raging alcoholic." I can dig up the article source for yah. I have been a Mick Fleetwood fan for about 28 or more years, so if I want to make fun of him, tongue in cheek, I will do so. :cool:

Villavic
09-09-2005, 08:21 AM
Check my thread at chit chat.. I hadn't seen this.

i found a mick's photo at Kalyra winery near Solvang and Santa Ynez, CA. but bottles wasn't there anymore, they told me.

FuzzyPlum
01-01-2016, 09:09 AM
Looks like Mick has some business problems concerning his wine (not, seemingly of his own making).


Courthouse News Service
Thursday, December 31, 2015Last Update: 2:50 PM PT

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/12/31/mick-fleetwood-says-chateau-stiffed-him.htm&gws_rd=cr&ei=4YeGVuPHE4auUdPuhqgG


MONTEREY, Calif. (CN) - Rock legend Mick Fleetwood's wine company says the winemaker behind his label abruptly closed, sold its assets and stiffed him for more than $172,000 in royalties.
In 2012, Fleetwood - legendary drummer and co-founder of the rock band Fleetwood Mac - hired Chateau Julien in Carmel, California, to make and bottle three white varietals and two red varietals to be labeled "Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar" and shipped to a distributor in Maui. The wine is sold online and in specialty shops and restaurants all over the world.
According to the complaint filed by Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar in Monterey Superior Court on Dec. 23, Chateau Julien agreed to pay a royalty of $120 for each case of 12 bottles sold to the distributor. Fleetwood says the first 15 payments totaling more than $101,000 were made, but after nearly three years the deal went sour - both figuratively and literally.
In March, still unaware of Chateau Julien's impending financial collapse, Fleetwood noticed that the winemaker had not only fallen behind on its royalty payments, but had made a shipment of Pinot Grigio that was inferior and at first rejected, the complaint says.
Fleetwood finally accepted the bad wine on the promise that Chateau Julien would fulfill its order and send good wine if he paid for the bad, but he never received it, the complaint says.
Worse yet, Chateau Julien promised to pay more than $18,000 in royalties it owed if Fleetwood bought the rest of the stock of more than 1,200 cases. Unfortunately, after Fleetwood bought the wine Julien just owed $154,000 more in royalties and didn't pay, Fleetwood says in the complaint.
What Fleetwood didn't know was that Chateau Julien had been working on a sale for months, probably spurred by a September 2014 collection action by Union Bank to recover more than $5 million it loaned to the winemaker. Union Bank claimed that family members had diverted company funds to themselves.
A month after selling its remaining stock to Fleetwood, Chateau Julien closed shop and moved off the land it was leasing from a sister company, Coastal Cypress Corp. Owners Robert and Patricia Brower and son Robert Jr. owned both companies and, according to Fleetwood's complaint, destroyed all of Chateau Julien's business records during the move.
This past September, Monterey real estate firm Folktale LLC bought the vineyard, winery, bottling plant, farmhouse, estate residence, land and equipment for $12 million in deal that took over a year to work out, according to a statement by commercial real estate firm Mahoney & Associates.
Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar is represented by Russell De Phillips of Milberg & De Phillips in Cardiff by the Sea, California.
In addition to the royalties due of $172,090.80, Fleetwood's company seeks punitive damages for fraud, unfair business practices and conversion. Neither party returned telephone messages requesting comment by press time.

bombaysaffires
01-01-2016, 01:53 PM
Looks like Mick has some business problems concerning his wine (not, seemingly of his own making).


Courthouse News Service
Thursday, December 31, 2015Last Update: 2:50 PM PT

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/12/31/mick-fleetwood-says-chateau-stiffed-him.htm&gws_rd=cr&ei=4YeGVuPHE4auUdPuhqgG


MONTEREY, Calif. (CN) - Rock legend Mick Fleetwood's wine company says the winemaker behind his label abruptly closed, sold its assets and stiffed him for more than $172,000 in royalties.
In 2012, Fleetwood - legendary drummer and co-founder of the rock band Fleetwood Mac - hired Chateau Julien in Carmel, California, to make and bottle three white varietals and two red varietals to be labeled "Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar" and shipped to a distributor in Maui. The wine is sold online and in specialty shops and restaurants all over the world.
According to the complaint filed by Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar in Monterey Superior Court on Dec. 23, Chateau Julien agreed to pay a royalty of $120 for each case of 12 bottles sold to the distributor. Fleetwood says the first 15 payments totaling more than $101,000 were made, but after nearly three years the deal went sour - both figuratively and literally.
In March, still unaware of Chateau Julien's impending financial collapse, Fleetwood noticed that the winemaker had not only fallen behind on its royalty payments, but had made a shipment of Pinot Grigio that was inferior and at first rejected, the complaint says.
Fleetwood finally accepted the bad wine on the promise that Chateau Julien would fulfill its order and send good wine if he paid for the bad, but he never received it, the complaint says.
Worse yet, Chateau Julien promised to pay more than $18,000 in royalties it owed if Fleetwood bought the rest of the stock of more than 1,200 cases. Unfortunately, after Fleetwood bought the wine Julien just owed $154,000 more in royalties and didn't pay, Fleetwood says in the complaint.
What Fleetwood didn't know was that Chateau Julien had been working on a sale for months, probably spurred by a September 2014 collection action by Union Bank to recover more than $5 million it loaned to the winemaker. Union Bank claimed that family members had diverted company funds to themselves.
A month after selling its remaining stock to Fleetwood, Chateau Julien closed shop and moved off the land it was leasing from a sister company, Coastal Cypress Corp. Owners Robert and Patricia Brower and son Robert Jr. owned both companies and, according to Fleetwood's complaint, destroyed all of Chateau Julien's business records during the move.
This past September, Monterey real estate firm Folktale LLC bought the vineyard, winery, bottling plant, farmhouse, estate residence, land and equipment for $12 million in deal that took over a year to work out, according to a statement by commercial real estate firm Mahoney & Associates.
Mick Fleetwood Private Cellar is represented by Russell De Phillips of Milberg & De Phillips in Cardiff by the Sea, California.
In addition to the royalties due of $172,090.80, Fleetwood's company seeks punitive damages for fraud, unfair business practices and conversion. Neither party returned telephone messages requesting comment by press time.

Jeebus who the hell manages his business affairs?? He's off on the road, isn't someone handling his money keeping track of the fact that gosh, we haven't seen any royalty checks from the wine guys in a while now, maybe we should follow up?

And then, even worse, they owe you all this money and they pull a classic scam on you "oh, if you pay us more money we'll finally pay you what we owe you". WTF? You never, ever, ever pay someone to get them to pay YOU what they owe you. Talk about throwing good money after bad.

"I know I owe you a hundred bucks, Jim, but if you pay me $200 I'll eventually pay you" SMH.

And they suckered him like this not once, but TWICE. They sent him sh&t wine, then convinced him to take it off their hands, and then suckered him into buying out all their remaining stock as well.

That old saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me TWICE, shame on ME" seems fitting here.

michelej1
01-01-2016, 08:42 PM
Mick should stop investing in business ventures. I know our percentage rates have been low for years now and it's hard to make your money grow, but Good Grief, Man just use certificates of deposit.

Michele

HomerMcvie
01-02-2016, 02:23 AM
The man is a genius - said no one EVER.

iamnotafraid
01-02-2016, 05:16 AM
The man is a genius - said no one EVER.

^That made me laugh.


Some might call me cold-hearted. But when the Mac
is over Mick's not moving in with me.

BLY
01-02-2016, 08:01 AM
My daughters but me a bottle of red and white for Christmas a few years back. I have them displayed on my bar. I have yet to open them.

Phoenixgypsy
01-02-2016, 10:11 AM
"C'mon Stevie....we got Christine back and now we can't get you in the studio??" Oh sorry, that was Mick Fleetwood's whine not wine! :-)