Fleetwood Mac 30 Years Rumours

[UnwindedDreams]

Hello everyone, just wondering, would anyone like to see this as the setlist for the 30 years Rumours tour:

The Chain
Dreams
Second Hand News
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Bleed To Love Her
Gypsy
Eyes Of The World
Sara
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Landslide
You Make Loving Fun( covered by Stevie)
I don't Want To Know
Big Love
Gold Dust Woman
Oh daddy( covered by Stevie)
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs
Tusk
Stand back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning 1st encore
Don't Stop 2nd encore
Songbird( covered by Stevie)

[johndoe]

I think apart from World Turning and Don't Stop, Christine's parts should be left alone, because Chris and Stevie have totally opposite voices.

[chiliD]

Isn't that the same set list they've already been PLAYING for the last 30 years?!? :shrug:


I'd rather see them promote the 40th anniversary of the band in its entirety (with as many ex-members that'll agree to play) than see them play that old, tired set again. I'm sick to DEATH of that set list (or anything close to it).

God, I hate Rumours...hate it, hate it, hate it! :cool:

[Jyqm]

Hello everyone, just wondering, would anyone like to see this as the setlist for the 30 years Rumours tour:

I'm pretty sure I already saw that concert two years ago.

(P.S. Do you mean "unwound"?)

[catinthedark]

It does sort of feel that they've been playing the Rumours tour for the past 30 years...

Okay, not quite, but a quick look at that setlist left me with a very familiar feeling. Of course, if they do this 30th anno thing, they should play ALL of Rumours (and I think they should only do it if Chris takes part), but I'd love to see some more obscure album tracks from Tusk, Mirage, TITN and SYW to round it out.

Just my 2 cents...

[jbrownsjr]

Isn't that the same set list they've already been PLAYING for the last 30 years?!? :shrug:


I'd rather see them promote the 40th anniversary of the band in its entirety (with as many ex-members that'll agree to play) than see them play that old, tired set again. I'm sick to DEATH of that set list (or anything close to it).

God, I hate Rumours...hate it, hate it, hate it! :cool:

well thats one thing you and LB have in common

poor Linds, that Rumours ruined his career!!! :laugh:

[SteveMacD]

While I'd MUCH rather have a 40th FLEETWOOD MAC anniversary, I know this band all too well, and that may be a long shot. IF they only do a 30th RUMOURS anniversary tour, I'd like to see them mix things up a bit. Sure, there are songs that they'll always play, but here's what I'd like to see:

Smile At You
The Chain
Dreams
Oh Well
Crying In The Night
I Know I’m Not Wrong
Seven Wonders
Miranda
Rhiannon
Book Of Love
I’m So Afraid
Gypsy
Big Love
Landslide
Steal Your Heart Away
That’s Alright
Tango In The Night
Sara
Tusk
Stop Dragging My Heart Around
Go Your Own Way

Holiday Road
Don’t Stop

Four Strong Winds

[UnwindedDreams]

I'm pretty sure I already saw that concert two years ago.

(P.S. Do you mean "unwound"?) No, my favorite line from Rhiannon is Dreams Unwind but there is a user that has dreams unwind. so I changed it to unwindeddreams. I know the correct pronnunciation is unwound but c'mon unwound!

[UnwindedDreams]

I think apart from World Turning and Don't Stop, Christine's parts should be left alone, because Chris and Stevie have totally opposite voices. How about if Christine did the AHI benefit?

[golden braid]

I don't like that set list. It's the same old songs that we've already heard a 100 times (except for IDWTK). I prefer Steve's set list. At least that's a little bit different.

[UnwindedDreams]

Since everybody is so bitchy around here here is the revised setlist... but I'm keeping the Chain as the opener( all christine parts are covered by lindsey and stevie):

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Peacekeeper
Eyes of the World ( replaced by IKINW in later shows)
Say You Will

Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
bleed to love her
Gypsy
Come
Sara
Hold Me
Go Insane
Landslide
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
I don't want to know
Big Love
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Daddy
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs
Little Lies
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Goodbye Baby
Don't Stop
Songbird

[mylittledemon]

God, I hate Rumours...hate it, hate it, hate it! :cool:


Now Chili, dont make any of us beat you to death with your own dislike of one of the greatest pop albums of history. You know when you say stuff like that, it makes me wonder if you're really a fan or not. The construction of the songs is genius. But you know, I didn't grow up in the 70s...and those who had to listen to that album every day for the last 30 yrs are justifiably tired of it.

[HomerMcvie]

Tired old songs.
Is unwinded a word? :confused: :sorry:

[catinthedark]

Since everybody is so bitchy around here here is the revised setlist...

I'm going to assume (and hope) you're being sarcastic here? 'Cause if not, I missed the memo that said someone died and made you boss of the 30th anniversary setlist. I don't remember anyone requesting one. But you opened the door, and everyone here has the right to weigh in. :shrug:

If you were being sarcastic, my apologies.

[AliceLover]

My Set List (with Christine)

Say You Love Me (The classic opener)
The Chain
Dreams
Isn't it Midnight
Eyes of the World
Over and Over
Never Goin Back Again
Rhiannon
Thats Enough for Me
Everywhere
Running Through the Garden
Miranda
In the Back of My mind
Affairs of the Heart
Skies the Limit
Im So Afraid
Gold Dust Woman
You Make Loving Fun
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Blue Letter
Sisters of the Moon
Don't Stop

[jbrownsjr]

Now Chili, dont make any of us beat you to death with your own dislike of one of the greatest pop albums of history. You know when you say stuff like that, it makes me wonder if you're really a fan or not. The construction of the songs is genius. But you know, I didn't grow up in the 70s...and those who had to listen to that album every day for the last 30 yrs are justifiably tired of it.

it's more an issue of saturation, rather than quality
even LB SN and CM were sick of it

"if we heard that album one more time we were gonna throw up"
richard dashut.... (well it was something like that) :cool:

[Jyqm]

No, my favorite line from Rhiannon is Dreams Unwind but there is a user that has dreams unwind. so I changed it to unwindeddreams. I know the correct pronnunciation is unwound but c'mon unwound!

Um. Okay.

Was "unwindingdreams" taken?

[Jyqm]

Since everybody is so bitchy around here

What do you expect? Against our better judgment, we continue to follow a band that all but insults their core fanbase in the construction of their setlists.

Perhaps that's a bit harsh, as the Say You Will tour did include some very nice surprises. Still, for a band with a fiarly large catalogue, for them to go out on the road and play the same twenty songs in the same order every night for a year is just uninspired, and every fan has a right to be sick and tired of hearing some of the same hits over and over and over again.

[PenguinHead]

Isn't that the same set list they've already been PLAYING for the last 30 years?!? :shrug:


I'd rather see them promote the 40th anniversary of the band in its entirety (with as many ex-members that'll agree to play) than see them play that old, tired set again. I'm sick to DEATH of that set list (or anything close to it).

God, I hate Rumours...hate it, hate it, hate it! :cool:


LOL! :]

I'm with you there. I will never hate Rumours...but those songs have been played to death (with the weird exception of "I Don't Want To Know." Yes, it was the pinnacle of their career....which means they had no where to go but down -- not artistically, but inspirationally. They became a juke box stuck on the same album for decades. Rumours is their Albatross!!

Regarding their live shows, I know of no other long-living bands that are so stuck in the past. I know of no other bands with such rich histories, who continually revert the majority of their shows to recordings from nearly 30 years ago, and continually give all the music they've done since then just a brief, passing nod....if that.

Maybe I'm a bit old school, but if I like a band, I couldn't care less if I don't hear their hits. (Radio is so corporately constricted, the reality of Fleetwood Mac ever having another chart hit is nearly non-existent.) If I like their music---I like their music. Their set could consist of all b-sides, unknown songs, cover songs, whatever....I'd be happy for what it was. And I would expect that ---in a span of 20-something years--- that I could attend several dozen shows and see a distinguished and different set list. It's not a comfort to know that I can expect The Chain followed by Dreams. It's stagnent, redundant (and more redundant)!!

This band is not getting any younger...we can reasonably expect only a few more years of live performances. You think that they would take more stock in their backlog, and maybe delve into songs that have gotten little or no attention. Beautiful Child and I Know I'm Not Wrong (as well as the Say You Will material) was a start. But not enough. Too little too late.

[chiliD]

Now Chili, dont make any of us beat you to death with your own dislike of one of the greatest pop albums of history. You know when you say stuff like that, it makes me wonder if you're really a fan or not. The construction of the songs is genius. But you know, I didn't grow up in the 70s...and those who had to listen to that album every day for the last 30 yrs are justifiably tired of it.


Do I have to mention AGAIN that I had already been a fan of Fleetwood Mac for nearly a DECADE BEFORE Rumours was released? :cool:

Ok, here's a set list for ya: (if no one in parentheses, current lineup*)


The Chain
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Say You Love Me (w/Christine McVie)
Just Crazy Love (w/Christine McVie)
Need Your Love So Bad (w/Peter Green)
Rattlesnake Shake (w/Peter Green)
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
In The Back Of My Mind (w/Billy Burnette, Rick Vito & Christine McVie)
Blue Letter (w/Billy Burnette & Lindsey Buckingham)
I Loved Another Woman (w/Rick Vito)
Station Man (w/Jeremy Spencer, Bob Welch & Christine McVie)
Shake Your Moneymaker (w/Jeremy Spencer)
Future Games (w/Bob Welch & Bob Weston)
Why (w/Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Bob Welch & Bob Weston)
Big Love
Landslide
Only You Know & I Know (w/Dave Mason & Bekka Bramlett)
We Just Disagree (w/Dave Mason & Billy Burnette)
Little Lies (w/Christine McVie)
Sentimental Lady (w/Bob Welch)
Night Watch (w/Bob Welch, Peter Green...Mick's African Talking Drum solo/vest solo here)
Rhiannon
Green Manalishi (w/Peter Green, Bob Welch & Stevie Nicks)
Silver Springs
You Make Loving Fun (w/Christine McVie)
Go Your Own Way

Encore #1:
Oh Well (w/Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham & Billy Burnette trading vocal lines...Rick Vito & Lindsey B. on lead guitars)
Hypnotized (w/Bob Welch)

Encore #2:
Black Magic Woman (w/Peter Green, Bob Weston, Rick Vito & Bob Welch)
Don't Stop (all)

Encore #3:
Songbird (Christine)
Albatross (all)


*with the exception that Brett Tuggle, Neale Haywood & Carlos Rios aren't along for the ride...Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Billy Burnette & Rick Vito will alternate handling their guitar & background vocal parts when they're not the featured artist. But, yes, Stevie WILL drag Sharon & Lori along. And, Mick will have Taku & Isaac Assante dividing up the percussion parts, too

[Dark Angel]

Since everybody is so bitchy around here here is the revised setlist... but I'm keeping the Chain as the opener( all christine parts are covered by lindsey and stevie):
Better idea...if Christine isn't participating, leave her songs out. I loathed Stevie's vocals on Don't Stop, and would really hate to hear her sing any of Christine's other songs.:eek:

[HomerMcvie]

I like your list, Steve, except for only one Bob song during the main show!
Gimme Emerald Eyes, and Angel, or Future Games, and I'm in! :)

[chiliD]

I like your list, Steve, except for only one Bob song during the main show!
Gimme Emerald Eyes, and Angel, or Future Games, and I'm in! :)


Duly edited.

[shackin'up]

Oh Well (w/Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham & Billy Burnette trading vocal lines...Rick Vito & Lindsey B. on lead guitars)


:laugh:
That's more vocalists than vocallines :laugh: :laugh:

[shackin'up]

Or the old line-up with Peter jeremy and danny and nothing further.

But With B/N I'd like to see:

Frozen Love
What Makes You Think You're The One
Destiny rules
Illume
Tusk
Everybody Finds Out
Monday Morning
Miranda
Smile at you
Come
I Don't Want To Know
Without A Leg To Stand On
Storms
Beautiful Child
Long Distance Winner
I'm So Afraid
Not That Funny
I Know I'm Not Wrong
That's Alright
Can't Go Back
Book Of Love
Angel
Sisters Of The Moon

1st encore
Red Rover
Go Your Own Way

2Nd encore
Second hand news
Landslide

California Dreaming


and after that set.....they may dissappear forever.

[chiliD]

Or the old line-up with Peter jeremy and danny and nothing further.


Hmmmm...no Bob Welch? :shrug:

Heresy!

[shackin'up]

Hmmmm...no Bob Welch? :shrug:

Heresy!

Oh don't get me wrong
I'd love to see a MF-McVie-McVie-Welch line-up too. But seperate. Just not a mish-mash of off an on going line-ups without time to connect to any of them.

But what do you think of my set list?

[HomerMcvie]

Oh don't get me wrong
I'd love to see a MF-McVie-McVie-Welch line-up too. But seperate. Just not a mish-mash of off an on going line-ups without time to connect to any of them.

But what do you think of my set list?
I think it sucks! :p Tired old crap, with no acknowledgement of any previous incarnation. :distress:

[chiliD]

:laugh:
That's more vocalists than vocallines :laugh: :laugh:


No.


Peter:
Can't help about the shape I'm in,
Can't sing, ain't pretty and my legs are thin

Bob:
Don't ask me what I think of you,
I might not give the answer that you want me to

Peter:
Ohhh Welllllll

Lindsey:
Now I talked to God, I knew he'd understand,
He said, "Stick by me, I'll be your guiding hand"

Billy:
But, don't ask me what I think of you,
I might not give the answer that you want me to

Lindsey:
Oh Well, well, well, well, well-l-l-l-l

[chiliD]

But what do you think of my set list?

Overly Buckingham & Nicks-centric. :p

[mylittledemon]

ChiliD...you know I just love razzing you sometimes, that's all. I modified your setlist to suit my tastes.


The Chain
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Say You Love Me (w/Christine McVie)
Gold Dust Woman
Tusk
[B]Blue Letter (w/Billy Burnette & Lindsey Buckingham)
I Loved Another Woman (w/Rick Vito)
Why (w/Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Bob Welch & Bob Weston)
Big Love
Landslide
[B]Little Lies (w/Christine McVie)
Rhiannon
Green Manalishi (w/Peter Green, Bob Welch & Stevie Nicks)
Silver Springs
You Make Loving Fun (w/Christine McVie)
Go Your Own Way
Eyes of the World
Sisters of the Moon
Oh Well (w/Peter Green, Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham & Billy Burnette trading vocal lines...Rick Vito & Lindsey B. on lead guitars)
Hypnotized (w/Bob Welch)
Don't Stop (all)
Songbird (Christine)

[shackin'up]

Overly Buckingham & Nicks-centric. :p

Yes that's why it was called B/N-setlist.
But for a rumourshater this list must be a relief, dntchathink?

[HomerMcvie]

Yes that's why it was called B/N-setlist.
But for a rumourshater this list must be a relief, dntchathink?
But aren't you tired of B/N? They certainly sound tired.

[shackin'up]

I think it sucks! :p Tired old crap, with no acknowledgement of any previous incarnation. :distress:

Come-on acid pisser. You just want a Fleetwood Mac 40-year- musical. I hate that.

Sometime in this life you and I end up getting drunk in a gross bar, though.

[shackin'up]

But aren't you tired of B/N? They certainly sound tired.

i just totally disagree with you on that one.

Bartender, fill'em up please....

[HomerMcvie]

Come-on acid pisser. You just want a Fleetwood Mac 40-year- musical. I hate that.

Sometime in this life you and I end up getting drunk in a gross bar, though.
G-G-Giddyup! I know of several gross bars. I'm considering turning professional. :blob2:
And YES, it's my dream to see the 40 year musical. I just want Bob back into the band, even for one show. BTW, Bob turned 60 yesterday. :woohoo:

[HomerMcvie]

i just totally disagree with you on that one.

Bartender, fill'em up please....
Oh, c'mon. Neither one of them can hit anything resembling a high note. Blah, blah, blah......drone, drone, drone.....
And I've grown to hate my favorite album. True, that's probably my fault, but they're not helping by playing the same old tired songs, over and over. :rolleyes:

[chiliD]

ChiliD...you know I just love razzing you sometimes, that's all. I modified your setlist to suit my tastes.


Copyright infringement!!! :laugh:

[DavidMn]

Well I'll give it a shot.

Not neccecarily in this order

I loved another woman
Brown Eyes
Hypnotized
Sentimental lady
Say You Love Me
Dreams
Songbird
Man of the world
OH WELL!!!!
Station Man
The Chain
Landslide
Think About Me
Rattlesnake Shake
Sara
Gypsy
Illume
Go Your Own Way
I'm So Afraid
Emerald Eyes
Woman Of a thousand years
Gold Dust Woman
Albatross
Walk A Thin Line
Save Me A Place
Over And Over
Isnt it Midnight
Need Your Love SO Bad
EVerywhere
Never Going Back Again


I dont know if this would work, but it's an idea?

[UnwindedDreams]

I'm going to assume (and hope) you're being sarcastic here? 'Cause if not, I missed the memo that said someone died and made you boss of the 30th anniversary setlist. I don't remember anyone requesting one. But you opened the door, and everyone here has the right to weigh in. :shrug:

If you were being sarcastic, my apologies. yes I was being sarcastic and you are very gullible. :nod:

[UnwindedDreams]

Um. Okay.

Was "unwindingdreams" taken? Enough with my username, I don't know if it was taken!

[SteveMacD]

Was "unwindingdreams" taken?
Glass houses, man. Glass houses.

[HomerMcvie]

Glass houses, man. Glass houses.
And I forgot to capitalize my V. I realized on about my 5th post, but didn't want to re-register, or lose my five posts. :p
I'm very grammer/spelling anal though, and a word that isn't a word bothers me everytime I look at it. :sorry: Unwinded isn't a word. :sorry:

[catinthedark]

yes I was being sarcastic and you are very gullible. :nod:


Nah - I just appreciate clarity. As you may have noted, I included the apologies in the event you were being sarcastic. You're off to an interesting start around here.

[chiliD]

I'm very grammer/spelling anal though...

:laugh: So, that's why you misspelled "grammar" :shrug: :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

:laugh: So, that's why you misspelled "grammar" :shrug: :lol:
Nah, that's cuz I wuz drunk! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[UnwindedDreams]

Second Hand News
Say You Love me
The Chain
Dreams
Oh Well
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Peacekeeper
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Oh Daddy
Come
Gypsy
Poem/ Go Insane
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
You make loving Fun
Gold Dust Woman
Everywhere
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs
I don't wanna know
Eyes of The World
Tusk
Stand back
Go Your own way
World Turning/ Mick solo
Don't stop
Sisters of the moon :)
SongBird

[chiliD]

I think most people would be happy if they came out & played...

Monday Morning
Warm Ways
Blue Letter
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Crystal
Say You Love Me
Landslide
World Turning
I'm So Afraid
***intermission***
Second Hand News
Dreams
Never Going Back Again
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Silver Springs
The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
I Don't Want To Know
Oh Daddy
Gold Dust Woman
Songbird

...then called it a night.

YAWN!!!!! :cool:

[shackin'up]

I think most people would be happy if they came out & played...

Monday Morning
Warm Ways
Blue Letter
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Crystal
Say You Love Me
Landslide
World Turning
I'm So Afraid
***intermission***
Second Hand News
Dreams
Never Going Back Again
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Silver Springs
The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
I Don't Want To Know
Oh Daddy
Gold Dust Woman
Songbird

...then called it a night.

YAWN!!!!! :cool:

reread my setlist and come to another conclusion please?

[chiliD]

reread my setlist and come to another conclusion please?


That WAS my conclusion. Too many people are overly Rumours-centric. It appalls me.

[shackin'up]

That WAS my conclusion. Too many people are overly Rumours-centric. It appalls me.

get real. In a 28 song-setlist I suggested two rumours-songs in the encores and one in the regular set. And that one is I don't want to know for g*ds sake.

YOUR MUSICAL-SETLIST COUNTED 8 FRIGGIN' RUMOURSSONGS!!!!!!! (incl. SS)That's practically the whole album!

Now please sir what the H*ll are you talking about! And i ask you again: look at my list and admit that that would at least be an inspiring setlist for the line-up themselves.

[chiliD]

get real. In a 28 song-setlist I suggested two rumours-songs in the encores and one in the regular set. And that one is I don't want to know for g*ds sake.

YOUR MUSICAL-SETLIST COUNTED 8 FRIGGIN' RUMOURSSONGS!!!!!!! (incl. SS)That's practically the whole album!

Now please sir what the H*ll are you talking about! And i ask you again: look at my list and admit that that would at least be an inspiring setlist for the line-up themselves.


Besides the f***ing album, I mean the whole Rumours incarnation of Fleetwood Mac. It's musical pablum compared to the actual creativity of other incarnations.

[DavidMn]

Catfight time ladies and gentleman. I'l takke 3-1 on Chili. :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Besides the f***ing album, I mean the whole Rumours incarnation of Fleetwood Mac. It's musical pablum compared to the actual creativity of other incarnations.


....but it's the kind of music that the vast majority wants to hear. If people wanted to hear more bluesy type stuff, this conversation wouldn't be happening. Post '75 incarnation had the type of songs people wanted to buy and listen to....right place and right time. In some aspects, they are still listening to those songs that spanned from '75-'80. It's music that has lasted, and I dunno why you are so bitter towards that.

And someone's creativity shouldn't be compared to another's creativity. It's apples and oranges. If everyone had the same idea for a song, it would be one boring music industry.

[DavidMn]

....but it's the kind of music that the vast majority wants to hear. If people wanted to hear more bluesy type stuff, this conversation wouldn't be happening. Post '75 incarnation had the type of songs people wanted to buy and listen to....right place and right time. In some aspects, they are still listening to those songs that spanned from '75-'80. It's music that has lasted, and I dunno why you are so bitter towards that.

And someone's creativity shouldn't be compared to another's creativity. It's apples and oranges. If everyone had the same idea for a song, it would be one boring music industry.
Amen Curtis my friend. I've never understood all the rancor between fans of pre 75 and post 75. I love it All!!! But everyone's entitled to their opinion I guess. :D

[Jyqm]

Second Hand News
Say You Love me
The Chain
Dreams
Oh Well
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Peacekeeper
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Oh Daddy
Come
Gypsy
Poem/ Go Insane
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
You make loving Fun
Gold Dust Woman
Everywhere
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs
I don't wanna know
Eyes of The World
Tusk
Stand back
Go Your own way
World Turning/ Mick solo
Don't stop
Sisters of the moon :)
SongBird


I'm not entirely sure hwat the purpose of this setlist-revising exercise is, but if you're trying to come up with something creative and exciting, you're still going in the absolute wrong direction. I count only three songs on that list that weren't played on one or both of the last two tours. This incarnation of Fleetwood Mac has plenty of back catalogue that is completely ignored because of the way they do things on tour. How about Crystal as a duet, or The Ledge, or Book Of Love, or That's Alright, or Tango In The Night, or Everybody Finds Out, or a solo song OTHER than Go Insane or Stand Back? There are so many possibilities for an awesome and creative Mac setlist, even without "covering" pre-75 stuff (which I don't really think they ought ot be doing at this point).

[MACFAN]

Amen Curtis my friend. I've never understood all the rancor between fans of pre 75 and post 75. I love it All!!! But everyone's entitled to their opinion I guess. :D

Seriously. The post 75 incarnation of the band is what got me interested in them in the first place, back in 1978...(oh god 1978). I remember really listening to the Rumours album for the first time at a friends house and thinking this **** is good. So I went to the record store and bought both Rumours and Fleetwood Mac, thanks ma and dad :) . But while there I also noticed their other albums plus Buckingham Nicks. So I was back the next week buying BN and Bare Trees (I liked the cover) and the rest is history. I like all Fleetwood Mac albums with the exception of Time :distress:

[MACFAN]

What do you expect? Against our better judgment, we continue to follow a band that all but insults their core fanbase in the construction of their setlists.

Perhaps that's a bit harsh, as the Say You Will tour did include some very nice surprises. Still, for a band with a fiarly large catalogue, for them to go out on the road and play the same twenty songs in the same order every night for a year is just uninspired, and every fan has a right to be sick and tired of hearing some of the same hits over and over and over again.

Then don't go to the shows You know full well what your gonna get at a Fleetwood Mac show in 2005. I personally don't wanna hear Lindsey Buckingham sing Hypnotized, Oh Well etc. However I would not mind hearing Green do Oh Well. So Im gonna call up Mick Fleetwood and Im going to tell him the next Fleetwood Mac tour should be done in 2 legs. The first leg is anyone he can round up from the pre 75 days. Then the second leg would be the "classic" lineup of Mick, John (how f*****g great is this mans playing), Christine, Stevie and Lindsey. Also that the shows are to be requests only. :laugh:

[David]

Amen Curtis my friend. I've never understood all the rancor between fans of pre 75 and post 75.It's that ol' devil called "commercialism" (in this case, it's the turning away from grittier urban realism toward pop & the nagging overplay of multiplatinum songs).

It's also proof that "Fleetwood Mac" is dozens of different bands. It's time to start treating them -- not it -- as such.

[Jyqm]

Then don't go to the shows

I don't want to take out all of my pent-up rage on you speicifically, but well, I'm really sick of this kind of idiocy. It seems to be the stock response of people all over the Internet (and elsewhere in life) who just can't stand to see their favorite whatever spoken negatively in any way. In politics, you hear the same thing from Bush supporters directed against those who dare to speak ill of his policies: "Well, if you don't like America, go live someplace else." Which is an incredibly moronic and un-American thing to say, and it's just as illegitimate a comment in this context.

You know full well what your gonna get at a Fleetwood Mac show in 2005.

I sure do. And I don't like it, which is why I'm complaining about it.

I personally don't wanna hear Lindsey Buckingham sing Hypnotized, Oh Well etc.

Nor do I, which I think I also mentioned in my previous post.

[MACFAN]

[QUOTE=Jyqm]I don't want to take out all of my pent-up rage on you speicifically, but well, I'm really sick of this kind of idiocy. It seems to be the stock response of people all over the Internet (and elsewhere in life) who just can't stand to see their favorite whatever spoken negatively in any way. In politics, you hear the same thing from Bush supporters directed against those who dare to speak ill of his policies: "Well, if you don't like America, go live someplace else." Which is an incredibly moronic and un-American thing to say, and it's just as illegitimate a comment in this context.




But Fleetwood Mac is a rock band. What they do is for public enjoyment. They are not trying to save the world or music industry for that matter

[HomerMcvie]

[QUOTE=Jyqm] They are not trying to save the world or music industry for that matter
Well then, they're certainly doing a good job. :p

[Jyqm]

But Fleetwood Mac is a rock band. What they do is for public enjoyment. They are not trying to save the world or music industry for that matter

That's not the point. The point is that I have every right to complain without being told to basically f*** off if I don't like the way the band does things. I wasn't just bitching and moaning, I was offering constructive criticism, and a criticism with which I think a large number of Mac fans agree. I realize that it's highly unlikely that Fleetwood Mac will ever change their approach to concerts, but there's certainly no harm that can be done by encouraging them to do so.

[MACFAN]

That's not the point. The point is that I have every right to complain without being told to basically f*** off if I don't like the way the band does things. I wasn't just bitching and moaning, I was offering constructive criticism, and a criticism with which I think a large number of Mac fans agree. I realize that it's highly unlikely that Fleetwood Mac will ever change their approach to concerts, but there's certainly no harm that can be done by encouraging them to do so.

Who told you to F*** off? I told you not to attend a rock concert for christ's sake. I see Petty every time he comes around. And each time you get maybe 6 or 7 songs that are new/obscure, but the rest are the same songs he has been doing for years. If I got bored or tired of the sets I wouldn't go.

[Jyqm]

Who told you to F*** off? I told you not to attend a rock concert for christ's sake. I see Petty every time he comes around. And each time you get maybe 6 or 7 songs that are new/obscure, but the rest are the same songs he has been doing for years. If I got bored or tired of the sets I wouldn't go.

How is that a response to my complaint about the band's setlists, though? Whether or not I attend a Fleetwood Mac concert has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I wish to complain that the band's setlists are too static and boring. I'm not complaining that I feel I'm not getting my money's worth, I'm complaining that I think the band is woefully boring in its setlist choices.

[MACFAN]

How is that a response to my complaint about the band's setlists, though? Whether or not I attend a Fleetwood Mac concert has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I wish to complain that the band's setlists are too static and boring. I'm not complaining that I feel I'm not getting my money's worth, I'm complaining that I think the band is woefully boring in its setlist choices.


That's my point why go if you feel the band is boring. :confused: Save yourself the agony of it all. I mean do you go because despite the boring song choices the band is still a great live act? Do you go out of curiosity?

[jbrownsjr]

the setlists are boring

Rush's setlists are boring too

2 of my favorite bands and they refuse to play to cut repetition

[Jyqm]

That's my point why go if you feel the band is boring. :confused: Save yourself the agony of it all. I mean do you go because despite the boring song choices the band is still a great live act? Do you go out of curiosity?

I don't think I mentioned attending a Fleetwood Mac concert at all in my previous posts in this thread. Am I explaining this poorly? Again, whether or not I go to a Fleetwood Mac concert is irrelevant; my complaint that the setlists are boring still stands. They're boring whether I go or not.

[jbrownsjr]

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[chiliD]

I think the recording of crickets just prior to their playing "The Chain" is really appropos. :) And, they pretty much could play them throughout their entire set.

Thunder only happens...{sound of crickets}

[SteveMacD]

That's my point why go if you feel the band is boring. :confused: Save yourself the agony of it all. I mean do you go because despite the boring song choices the band is still a great live act? Do you go out of curiosity?
Their set lists bore the crap out of me. However, I'm a total whore for John McVie's bass playing.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm a total whore.

we know :lol:

[SteveMacD]

we know :lol:
:lol: Please. People pay me to keep my clothes ON!

[chiliD]

That's my point why go if you feel the band is boring. :confused: Save yourself the agony of it all. I mean do you go because despite the boring song choices the band is still a great live act? Do you go out of curiosity?

Because I haven't missed a Fleetwood Mac tour since 1974 (which is something I can't say about Eric Clapton...and considering how I feel about Clapton's guitar playing, that is saying A LOT!!!)...I'll still go once every tour (instead of going 3 to 8 times per tour as I did in the 70's & 80's)...and because of the way they've decided to build their concert sets, I'll bitch about it til I die. :mad: Simple as that. :cool: I just keep hanging on to the hope that each time I see them, they'll do something to make me STOP bitching...but they don't. :shrug: