opinionated ledgies

[DavidMn]

I've been on here now for like 4 months and I've noticed some people that are very opinionated, and here's the deal with me, as long as someone doesnt attack someone else personally for a view they might hold, nothing really bothers me, because that's why we live in America, you have a right to your opinion!!! :nod: I'd be curious as to what others think on this subject.

[totallycait]

I'm with you on this one. It's frustrating on forums like this when people think disagreeing with someone means bashing a person. It doesn't.

I like seeing other opinions, and really don't mind if folks don't agree with me.

[DavidMn]

I'm with you on this one. It's frustrating on forums like this when people think disagreeing with someone means bashing a person. It doesn't.

I like seeing other opinions, and really don't mind if folks don't agree with me.
Thats exactly what I'm talking about, very well stated :)

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I agree..I'm very opinionated, but I appreciate all opinions (however that does not mean I will not attack your OPINION!) lol

Chris

[lbelle1214]

I believe that people should be able to just 'agree to disagree' if they don't see eye to eye on a subject. Expressing your opinion in a respectful way and trying to bully someone into seeing it YOUR way is entirely different. So, I agree with you! This world would be entirely boring if we all thought the same. ;)

[greatdarkwing]

I believe that people should be able to just 'agree to disagree' if they don't see eye to eye on a subject. Expressing your opinion in a respectful way and trying to bully someone into seeing it YOUR way is entirely different. So, I agree with you! This world would be entirely boring if we all thought the same. ;)

Agreed!

I just in general do not agree with 89% of the Chit Chat forum, but I am never hostile about expressing any of my opinions at all. I have never even been given a "nasty" reply or anything like that. Im just happy most of us know how to get along, and respect each others boundaries. Just ask Dissention...we are oil and water, but we get along great, and I consider him a great person and friend.

[lbelle1214]

I've only had the pleasure of meeting a couple of you. There is a very diverse group of people here...so it only stands to reason that there will be differences. I only hope that I have not been one of the ones to offend others, as that never is my intention. Hopefully, someday I will be able to meet more of you in person! :)

[DavidMn]

I've only had the pleasure of meeting a couple of you. There is a very diverse group of people here...so it only stands to reason that there will be differences. I only hope that I have not been one of the ones to offend others, as that never is my intention. Hopefully, someday I will be able to meet more of you in person! :)
The same goes here. You seem to be a very nice person :)

[GateandGarden]

I'm with you on this one. It's frustrating on forums like this when people think disagreeing with someone means bashing a person. It doesn't.

I like seeing other opinions, and really don't mind if folks don't agree with me.Well put and I feel the same way. I love arguing on here as long as people's feelings don't get hurt.

As Darren Hayes says, "I believe the sun should never set upon an argument." :nod:

[sodascouts]

Agreed!

I just in general do not agree with 89% of the Chit Chat forum, but I am never hostile about expressing any of my opinions at all. I have never even been given a "nasty" reply or anything like that. Im just happy most of us know how to get along, and respect each others boundaries. Just ask Dissention...we are oil and water, but we get along great, and I consider him a great person and friend.

You know I feel the same way! I've found if you treat other people with respect and give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions (i.e. the other side isn't evil and souless lol) they usually do the same in return, and a lot of hurt is avoided. The only ones I worry about are the ones who refuse to deal with a person on a reasonable level. Their response is always "You disagree with me because you're ignorant/cruel/stupid [insert insulting adjective of choice]!" And they don't even think they're doing anything wrong! They truly believe everyone who diagrees with them fits those descriptors. That's why you can't talk to them. You just have to hope one day they have an epiphany and change into ration human beings who treat others how they want to be treated. Such a change is possible - I've seen it happen! lol

[all the same]

that's why we live in America

Stupid Americans! :lol:

[Serrart]

I like to discuss and especially read other people's opinions on subjects that interest me. Even if internet can be a distorting megaphone, and easily becomes a borig play park for aggressive egomaniacs (as I can be too, but mostly in real life).

Romy

[GODDESS6]

i have to admit i was afaraid at 1st to really make a stand on anything when i 1st joined the ledge~ but i think it was becuz at the time there was a thread going on in the chit chat forum w/ some very regular ledgies, who i knew were close on here & it got pretty heated & very mean & it was sad~ i agree that we all have opinions, some strong, some not so much~ but i do love the diversity of this group, it makes it so very interesting, & hey i learn stuff all the time~ there are some wonderful people on here & i am so glad i didn't get discouraged about joining, i love it here!!! :wavey: ~

[gldstwmn]

DavidMn, just so you know, there are a few of us on here who know each other pretty well and like to yank each other's chains every now and then. Sometimes we even fight for real. :shocked: Please don't be put off by it. :wavey:

[gldstwmn]

We all shall benefit from supremacy.

:laugh: One can only hope.

[seeker007nmss]

I have no opinion on this. :p

[ForgottenChimp]

I have no opinion on this. :p:laugh: :laugh:

[sodascouts]

:laugh: One can only hope.

We all have room for improvement. I know I do. I'm not ashamed to admit it. :)

[bikerchic]

Just like what the sticker say's on my helmet "EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO MY OPINION" :p :laugh:

[BTFLCHLD]

i rather enjoy the interactions between ledgies...else this place would probably be enjoyable to visit occassionally if only to catch up on the latest fm news...and if there wasnt any new news well....boring!

in the time i have been here there have been a few times when i do cringe as the heat leads to burns "do unto others..." but then someone usually will express an opinion of sanity and all is again relatively calm :wavey:

[ReFleetwoodMac]

DavidMn, just so you know, there are a few of us on here who know each other pretty well and like to yank each other's chains every now and then. Sometimes we even fight for real. :shocked: Please don't be put off by it. :wavey:
I disagree. I believe he should be very put off by it. If our petty arguments and controversial personality showcases don't frighten him, then perhaps nothing will. He must not let us desensitize him to the point of him unwillingly putting himself in danger. That would just be tragic.

[gldstwmn]

I disagree. I believe he should be very put off by it. If our petty arguments and controversial personality showcases don't frighten him, then perhaps nothing will. He must not let us desensitize him to the point of him unwillingly putting himself in danger. That would just be tragic.
Well...when you put it that way :shrug:















:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Janet]

I'm really bad. Everyone knows how I feel and I don't hide it. I guess it's not a good thing!!!!

I guess it's really bad when people don't even want to listen to the other side, and that is something I personally try to do.

It doesn't seem to me anyone here is that bad but again I'm too busy thinking what I am thinking.... :confused:

[GateandGarden]

I disagree. I believe he should be very put off by it. If our petty arguments and controversial personality showcases don't frighten him, then perhaps nothing will. He must not let us desensitize him to the point of him unwillingly putting himself in danger. That would just be tragic.:lol::lol:

[tommer]

i was going to say how pluralist i am and stuff, but suddenly i noticed 4 celine dion pictures in my beloved FM zone, and realized there's some stuff i find very hard to tolerate.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

i was going to say how pluralist i am and stuff, but suddenly i noticed 4 celine dion pictures in my beloved FM zone, and realized there's some stuff i find very hard to tolerate.
:laugh: :lol:

[David]

Even if internet can be a distorting megaphoneI guess it can be for some; but in my own case & in the case of some others I know, the posts are the personality. I don't think there's anything I've ever posted that wasn't really me. Obviously, there are a multitude of sides, a plethora of facets, but each facet represents a genuine slab of heart organ & soul nonorgan.

Besides, there's a lot of personality information available on a board like this that reaches well beyond a person's actual words: what sorts of posts you reply to, what sorts of posts you initiate, what sort of approach you take to extend the board zeitgeist, the signature you tack on to your posts, your screen name, the frequency or infrequency with which you post, &c. All of these tell people something about you.

In terms of dealing with antagonism, it helps to spend a few years on Usenet newsgroups before venturing onto a Web board like this. If there's something in your soul cries out for the free & unfettered dissemination of ideas -- howsoever repugnant -- you'll gravitate to Usenet. Or ... you would have, at one time. It seems the Usenet Golden Age is over, but there's no way of knowing for sure since there are too many groups to monitor for vibrancy.

[HomerMcvie]

In terms of dealing with antagonism, it helps to spend a few years on Usenet newsgroups before venturing onto a Web board like this. If there's something in your soul cries out for the free & unfettered dissemination of ideas -- howsoever repugnant -- you'll gravitate to Usenet. Or ... you would have, at one time. It seems the Usenet Golden Age is over, but there's no way of knowing for sure since there are too many groups to monitor for vibrancy.
Usenet does seem to have died. AMFM certainly has. Everytime my Usenet goes down, I HAVE to call my provider. They've told me if I didn't call, they'd have no idea it was down, because I'm the only one using it! :lol:
And, you're right, I've found (a few years ago), far more argumentative folks on Usenet, than The Ledge.

[GODDESS6]

i was going to say how pluralist i am and stuff, but suddenly i noticed 4 celine dion pictures in my beloved FM zone, and realized there's some stuff i find very hard to tolerate.
this was tooooooo funny!!! :lol: :laugh: :nod: ~

[amber]

i was going to say how pluralist i am and stuff, but suddenly i noticed 4 celine dion pictures in my beloved FM zone, and realized there's some stuff i find very hard to tolerate.
:laugh: :lol:

shocking and unwelcome, isn't it?

[GateandGarden]

i was going to say how pluralist i am and stuff, but suddenly i noticed 4 celine dion pictures in my beloved FM zone, and realized there's some stuff i find very hard to tolerate.Geez, you're like, the fifth person to complain! :laugh: When I go home this weekend I'll put together a different sig! Or maybe I should keep it up because it's so offensive! :p By the way, relentless critcism of singers I love is supposed to be Homie's job. No one does it better. :shrug:

[GateandGarden]

...but each facet represents a genuine slab of heart organ & soul nonorgan.I don't know why, but that rules. Wait, I guess I do know why.

[shackin'up]

1. I thank God on my knees that I do not live in America. And that while I don't even believe.
2. Opinions rule. I love statements.
3. The Ledge is not the same anymore without Carnevaca.

[Serrart]

I guess it can be for some; but in my own case & in the case of some others I know, the posts are the personality. I don't think there's anything I've ever posted that wasn't really me. Obviously, there are a multitude of sides, a plethora of facets, but each facet represents a genuine slab of heart organ & soul nonorgan.

I think people with strong personalities, definite beliefs and tastes, in their posts show many aspects of their character, sometimes even some they're not aware of. I'm also convinced that people who aren't that strong and feel the need to be at any cost accepted in a virtual community find on internet very cozy masks.

About the other input (what sorts of posts you reply to, what sorts of posts you initiate, what sort of approach you take to extend the board zeitgeist, the signature you tack on to your posts, your screen name, the frequency or infrequency with which you post, &c. ) I see them as elements to understand more but they can also help to create even better and more fitting masks.

Internet communities are for me very disordered crowds, to take the good in them, you just have to start trusting or pretending to believe, as in real life when you meet someone new. But here the game is more visible.

Romy

[HomerMcvie]

Geez, you're like, the fifth person to complain! :laugh: When I go home this weekend I'll put together a different sig! Or maybe I should keep it up because it's so offensive! :p By the way, relentless critcism of singers I love is supposed to be Homie's job. No one does it better. :shrug:
Practice makes perfect! :p :wavey:
I wasn't even certain who was in your avatar. I usually ignore the avatars anyway. :sorry: I think they're a waste of bandwidth. :sorry: :xoxo:

[Mari]

1. I thank God on my knees that I do not live in America. And that while I don't even believe.
2. Opinions rule. I love statements.
3. The Ledge is not the same anymore without Carnevaca.

Nodding. I guess for us Dutch it can be a culture shock sometimes to witness the American version of free speech. Although, I felt a similar shock when coming back from the UK into our country and witnessing what we call manners.

[GateandGarden]

Practice makes perfect! :p :wavey:
I wasn't even certain who was in your avatar. I usually ignore the avatars anyway. :sorry: I think they're a waste of bandwidth. :sorry: :xoxo:Oh, well he was making fun of my signature. My avatar has Christine in it. :D

[GypsySorcerer]

3. The Ledge is not the same anymore without Carnevaca.
Hear, hear! :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

Oh, well he was making fun of my signature. My avatar has Christine in it. :D
Signature's what I meant. Actually, BILLBOARD's what I meant. I have NO idea why I typed avatar. Hillary, you've got no heart! :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Agreed!

I just in general do not agree with 89% of the Chit Chat forum, but I am never hostile about expressing any of my opinions at all. I have never even been given a "nasty" reply or anything like that. Im just happy most of us know how to get along, and respect each others boundaries. Just ask Dissention...we are oil and water, but we get along great, and I consider him a great person and friend.


REPUBLICAN LOON :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:wavey: ;)

Well said by you BTW.

[BTFLCHLD]

:wavey: ;) welcome back...you were missed :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

welcome back...you were missed :xoxo:

Thanks - I am still on a cruise in Alaska right now and had some free time - plus the rates for the sat link are cheaper when we are in port.

[BTFLCHLD]

Thanks - I am still on a cruise in Alaska right now and had some free time - plus the rates for the sat link are cheaper when we are in port. i lived in anchorage for a time so i know you are loving it :wavey:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Thanks - I am still on a cruise in Alaska right now and had some free time - plus the rates for the sat link are cheaper when we are in port.

Welcome back! Glad you are enjoying your cruise! :xoxo:

[BTFLCHLD]

Thanks - I am still on a cruise in Alaska right now and had some free time - plus the rates for the sat link are cheaper when we are in port. oh and i ask your forgiveness for all the buttmunch jokes that i attributed to you whilst you were/are away :o

[EDIT: or was that buttplug?]

[The Tower]

[EDIT: or was that buttplug?]
BINGO!!! Too bad for Jason they don't have polyurethane/latex cleaner on the ship. His poor old buttplug is all worn out....

[David]

Thanks - I am still on a cruise in Alaska right now and had some free timeWhatever you do, strand, STAY OUT OF LITUYA BAY!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STAY OUT!!!!!

[GateandGarden]

Hillary, you've got no heart! :lol:It'll be back someday. :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

It'll be back someday. :nod:

Don't be heartless! :rolleyes: Give me fair warning when it's coming back. Internal organs are meant to be just that......internal! ;)

[GateandGarden]

Internal organs are meant to be just that......internal! ;)Well, if that's your concern then I'll nix my plans to remove mine and take a photo for my next avatar. :rolleyes: ;)

[irishgrl]

News flash:
I am NOT opinionated. NOSIR. and I'll gladly enlighten anyone who thinks I am.

[GateandGarden]

News flash:
I am NOT opinionated. NOSIR. and I'll gladly enlighten anyone who thinks I am.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I don't have to explain why that's funny, do I? :xoxo:

[irishgrl]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I don't have to explain why that's funny, do I? :xoxo:

nope. it was said on purpose to be funny. because I DO have a sense of humor :eek:

[strandinthewind]

BINGO!!! Too bad for Jason they don't have polyurethane/latex cleaner on the ship. His poor old buttplug is all worn out....

Please do not talk about yourself as worn out :woohoo: :woohoo: :p :o :o

[strandinthewind]

Whatever you do, strand, STAY OUT OF LITUYA BAY!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STAY OUT!!!!!


We did not go there, though the Tsunami was mentioned and noted as horrific - it was, if I correctly recall, at least 100 feet :eek:

[irishgrl]

We did not go there, though the Tsunami was mentioned and noted as horrific - it was, if I correctly recall, at least 100 feet :eek:
Cowabunga! Surf's REALLY UP! :laugh: