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jbrownsjr
08-19-2005, 01:18 PM
I really like this album. At this point I believed Christine could sing with just about anyone and make a good harmony and sound.

Awesome album, how did it do?
Neal
08-19-2005, 01:23 PM
riaa.com says it was certified gold on 7/19/90. Not sure how to find out how many copies it's sold since then...
macfan 57
08-19-2005, 03:14 PM
Someone(I believe wetcamelfood) posted a few years ago that BTM sold about 800,000 copies in the U.S. & 2,000,000 worldwide. That's just an estimate since Soundscan didn't start counting until 1991, 1 year after the album was released. It probably sold about what SYW did. It may even have outsold SYW worldwide by a little bit.
wetcamelfood
08-19-2005, 08:45 PM
Yeah, you recall correctly macfan57, that was just what I heard, don't have any documentation but the sales #'s aren't a biggie to me either anyways. I think you're right too that BTM probably actually outsold SYW since BTM did very well in the UK, "no. 1" & all, whereas I don't remember hearing anything about SYW "being number one" in any country, so... :)

John
DavidMn
08-22-2005, 12:50 PM
You know, I like this album. It's one of those that sorta grows on u I think
mylittledemon
08-22-2005, 03:52 PM
I really like this album. At this point I believed Christine could sing with just about anyone and make a good harmony and sound.

Awesome album, how did it do?

not enough. Semi-proof the band, and that album, weren't relevant at that point in band's career.
jbrownsjr
08-22-2005, 04:23 PM
not enough. Semi-proof the band, and that album, weren't relevant at that point in band's career.

did you have any official numbers demon? i was interested in how it sold..
mylittledemon
08-22-2005, 04:47 PM
Last number I saw were that it had officially gone "gold" nearly 15 yrs ago. But in that time, it still has not been certified as Platinum here in the US. I think it pushed nearly 2 million copies overall.
macfan 57
08-22-2005, 06:09 PM
did you have any official numbers demon? i was interested in how it sold..

jbrownsjr, see the earlier posts from me & wetcamelfood. :)
jbrownsjr
08-22-2005, 06:20 PM
jbrownsjr, see the earlier posts from me & wetcamelfood. :)


yes i did thanks,

i was looking to see if demon had anything to add in worldwide or current sales....

thanks to everyone, i never knew this sold more than 2 million worldwide
DeeGeMe
08-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Count me in as someone who really liked this album too. I listen to it alot actually.
DavidMn
08-28-2005, 02:17 AM
I must admit I should listen to BTM more :)
AliceLover
08-29-2005, 03:08 PM
I must admit I should listen to BTM more :)

I love this album!
SteveMacD
08-29-2005, 08:31 PM
I like the album, although the over-production killed a lot of songs. "Freedom" and "When It Comes To Love" are both good songs, but the production was just ghastly. Christine and Billy had a lot of strong material, Stevie and Rick, not so much, although there weren't any blatantly awful songs on the album. From what I understand, there were better songs that could have been put on the album.
strandinthewind
08-29-2005, 08:44 PM
I like the album, although the over-production killed a lot of songs. "Freedom" and "When It Comes To Love" are both good songs, but the production was just ghastly. Christine and Billy had a lot of strong material, Stevie and Rick, not so much, although there weren't any blatantly awful songs on the album. From what I understand, there were better songs that could have been put on the album.


I will never for the life of me get the production of that record. Some of those songs would been much better with a little restraint or more of a clue - Save Me - though terrific, come to mind. But, I like the record nonetheless.
macfan 57
08-30-2005, 05:49 AM
From what I understand, there were better songs that could have been put on the album.

Yes, that's true. I have a bootleg compilation of outtakes & additional songs from BTM(2 CDs worth). I prefer listening to that rather than the album. There are quite a few Rick & Billy songs that never got on the album, but should have. Rick, especially got shortchanged. I do still generally like the album, mainly the Chris & Billy songs. The title track is fantastic. I also love "When The Sun Goes Down". I agree with everyone about the production problems, which I would blame on Greg Ladanyi.
David
08-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Yes, that's true. I have a bootleg compilation of outtakes & additional songs from BTM(2 CDs worth). I prefer listening to that rather than the album. There are quite a few Rick & Billy songs that never got on the album, but should have. Rick, especially got shortchanged. I do still generally like the album, mainly the Chris & Billy songs. The title track is fantastic. I also love "When The Sun Goes Down". I agree with everyone about the production problems, which I would blame on Greg Ladanyi.It would be very nice to have just the two lead vocal tracks & the keyboard of "Do You Know," the finest song on the album, instead of all that pavement they laid on the song.

"Do You Know" is also fun to play & sing.
chiliD
08-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Yes, that's true. I have a bootleg compilation of outtakes & additional songs from BTM(2 CDs worth). I prefer listening to that rather than the album. There are quite a few Rick & Billy songs that never got on the album, but should have. Rick, especially got shortchanged.

"Got No Home" has hit single written all over it!

I like the Christine/Billy background vocals on "Intuition" much better than Rick's solo version with Stevie's backgrounds. Nothing against Stevie's, just the BTM version's background vocals just seem to fit the song better. Stevie's vocals on Rick's song "Desiree" are perfect.
HomerMcvie
08-30-2005, 06:43 PM
It would be very nice to have just the two lead vocal tracks & the keyboard of "Do You Know," the finest song on the album, instead of all that pavement they laid on the song.

"Do You Know" is also fun to play & sing.
Do You Know was always my favorite song on the album. I had it completely linked with a love interest at the time. It still brings memories flooding back. :shocked:
Johnny Stew
08-30-2005, 07:04 PM
There's something odd about "Do You Know"... it's so pretty, and yet it comes across as terribly bland. I think, for me, it's lacking the vitality that Christine's songs nearly always have. But I'm not sure what could have made it a stronger song.

I certainly don't hate it though.
Johnny Stew
08-30-2005, 07:09 PM
I like the Christine/Billy background vocals on "Intuition" much better than Rick's solo version with Stevie's backgrounds. Nothing against Stevie's, just the BTM version's background vocals just seem to fit the song better. Stevie's vocals on Rick's song "Desiree" are perfect.FM's take on "Intution" just doesn't do the song justice, IMO. It's not substantive enough.

At least in comparison to Rick's solo version, which has an eerie, haunting quality to it, that really stays with you long after the track fades out. And I think Stevie's backing vocals add to that feeling, in much the same way as they did on "Midnight Wind."

Either way though, it's a great song, and would have made a great addition to 'Behind The Mask.' As would have "Got No Home" (with better production).
markolas
09-14-2005, 06:14 PM
I've never heard this album, but consider buying it from time to time. I was listening to a boot of the Manchester, UK show from the Behind the Mask tour recently and have had my curiosity roused once again. The songs they played from it on the tour did have a very generic early '90s AOR rock sound to them, so I dunno if I'd get much out of it, except that it would be interesting to hear Stevie's & Christine's songs.