In Concert: Mirage Tour '82 DVD [Archive]

GypsyNomad

08-19-2005, 01:11 AM

looks like the Mirage DVD will be officially released according to the nicksfix... I wonder if its as good as the other one (w/ Tango cover....stupid) plus its got all those bonus Stevie videos. I'll probably buy it & then sell the other one or something. Of all the concerts to release on dvd, they pick something we've all probably seen a 100 times :rolleyes: ....

LikeAWillow

08-19-2005, 01:27 AM

looks like the Mirage DVD will be officially released according to the nicksfix...

I'm so pathetic, I already have this, but I'm excited about the release for some reason. Not that I can even afford it anyway...alright I'll stop myself before I start whining.

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 01:43 AM

Am I missing something? It says that it is being released in Australia and the USA link is for a bootleg? :shocked:
I already have a copy of the laserdisc on DVD anyway and I am certainly not going to spend over $30.00 on this DVD.

GypsyNomad

08-19-2005, 01:45 AM

I'm so pathetic, I already have this, but I'm excited about the release for some reason. Not that I can even afford it anyway...alright I'll stop myself before I start whining.

What I don't understand is why won't FM just release a dvd box set/ documentary-concert thing spanning from 75-till last tour? Do they know how many people would buy that? All this footage that i'm sure they've got somewhere, & we're sittin' here watching & sometimes paying for crappy dvds & boots. I mean, i've never seen 80% of what footage exists & I think it would be an awesome thing to put out there for fans who joined a little late in the game, but that's just me.

Johnny Stew

08-19-2005, 01:46 AM

Odd that the Nicksfix has info about this... the tacked-on videos from the 'I Can't Wait' compilation make it hard to believe it's an official release.

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 01:53 AM

Odd that the Nicksfix has info about this... the tacked-on videos from the 'I Can't Wait' compilation make it hard to believe it's an official release.

Yeah, why would Stevie solo videos wnd up on a Fleetwood Mac video? The USA link isn't even for the same DVD. :shrug:

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 01:56 AM

What I don't understand is why won't FM just release a dvd box set/ documentary-concert thing spanning from 75-till last tour? Do they know how many people would buy that? All this footage that i'm sure they've got somewhere, & we're sittin' here watching & sometimes paying for crappy dvds & boots. I mean, i've never seen 80% of what footage exists & I think it would be an awesome thing to put out there for fans who joined a little late in the game, but that's just me.

Well there is a lot of footage however, some of it does not paint a flattering picture of the members. Lots of editing would have to be done to meet the approval of all of the band members so most likely a lot of interesting stuff would end up on the cutting room floor.

GypsyNomad

08-19-2005, 02:07 AM

Well there is a lot of footage however, some of it does not paint a flattering picture of the members. Lots of editing would have to be done to meet the approval of all of the band members so most likely a lot of interesting stuff would end up on the cutting room floor.

yes, you're right.... but still something, even if its not some big collection, would be nice. A few small sets from different concerts maybe.... i've got a Led Zeppelin dvd like that, i love it :)

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 02:16 AM

yes, you're right.... but still something, even if its not some big collection, would be nice. A few small sets from different concerts maybe.... i've got a Led Zeppelin dvd like that, i love it :)

I know that all of the SYW shows were filmed. I am sure that they could have set something up where people could get a DVD or even CD of any of the shows that they wanted. I guess that they feel that would not generate much cash. Most likely the same is true with any new DVD from the band so they don't bother. LIB might be the last video we see from them in a long time.

estranged4life

08-19-2005, 02:24 AM

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 02:33 AM

Might be better to buy the bootleg than wait around for ANTHING official to arrive, As sad as that is to say.

The bootlegs might not be the best quality but they are going to have a lot more interesting footage then anything the band releases. I think that we will watching the boots for a long time. I am also sure that someone is sitting on a ton of interesting videos that could be transferred to DVD.
The boots that I have gotten from trades are far more intersting then anything the band has ever put out.

LiquidBlue5000

08-19-2005, 02:43 AM

was to do what the fans want then that would be what we would call a miracle...Go ahead everyone, Say miracle...M-I-R-A-C-L-E!!!

Look at how they dropped the ball with the "Destiny Rules" DVD...Couldve added tons of unseen footage as extras, But what avenue did they approach? Just release the same version aired on VH1.

Exactly! like the part where Stevie is sitting on the sofa and screaming outloud at someone "he's gonna hate it!!! he's gonna hate it cuz i wrote it!!!"

.. i love that scene.. would love to have seen it in its entirety... but i guess it would have shed a negative light on Stevie and maybe she just didnt want the image of her being like that out there... ;)

amber

08-19-2005, 02:45 AM

The bootlegs might not be the best quality but they are going to have a lot more interesting footage then anything the band releases. I think that we will watching the boots for a long time. I am also sure that someone is sitting on a ton of interesting videos that could be transferred to DVD.
The boots that I have gotten from trades are far more intersting then anything the band has ever put out.
This makes me want to kill them. There are at least twenty people here who have various better ideas for Mac distribution than their managers do.

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 02:52 AM

.. i love that scene.. would love to have seen it in its entirety... but i guess it would have shed a negative light on Stevie and maybe she just didnt want the image of her being like that out there... ;)

Exactly! They want us to see them in a positive light, which is why we will never see any good footage. Those Japan boots will most likely never see the light of day as an “official’ release.

GypsyNomad

08-19-2005, 03:01 AM

Exactly! They want us to see them in a positive light, which is why we will never see any good footage. Those Japan boots will most likely never see the light of day as an “official’ release.

wait, I've never seen any of the Japan footage.... what kind of stuff, behavior did they show? i'm curious to know.

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 06:30 AM

wait, I've never seen any of the Japan footage.... what kind of stuff, behavior did they show? i'm curious to know.

Ok there are 2 Japan backstage footage sets floating around. They are from 1977. The first one shows Stevie putting her making on and making some comments about it. There is a segment where Stevie seems very friendly with the roadies hugging and chatting and flirting. Lindsey whines a lot and wants 'French Food. There is an interview with Christine where she looks like she is a bit tipsy.

The second DVD set has 3 DVDs and is kind of the same but I don't think that Stevie with the roadies is in there.
There is some kind of a photo session and I think that band is all high. Mick has this odd ring and I think that it might be used for other reasons then jewelry. Chris and John exchange some words and John calls her a name.
Lindsey makes out with Carol Ann (Barf) and is still whining through out the video.
That is all that I can think of right now. Anyway they are a must have for any fan. I am sure that most traders (like myself) can set up a trade for them.

David

08-19-2005, 10:20 AM

wait, I've never seen any of the Japan footage.... what kind of stuff, behavior did they show? i'm curious to know.Imagine any big rock band in the 1970s backstage before & after a show on tour. That's all it is.

In this case, it's the week's worth of shows in Japan in December 1977, so you have some backstage footage, some onstage footage, some traveling footage (bullet trains, planes), some press conference footage, etc. It's all just a big mishmash, & all of it is harmless & cheeky & interesting to us because we're Fleetwood Mac fans. They do just what every other rock band did, so it's difficult to fathom the cause of any shame they might have looking back on it.

David

08-19-2005, 10:23 AM

What I don't understand is why won't FM just release a dvd box set/ documentary-concert thing spanning from 75-till last tour? Do they know how many people would buy that? All this footage that i'm sure they've got somewhere, & we're sittin' here watching & sometimes paying for crappy dvds & boots.I don't think the members of the band -- or even their respective managers -- have any idea what sort of footage may be locked away somewhere.

If you mentioned the word "Rosebud" to Lindsey, Mick or Stevie, you'd probably get a blank stare -- "Huh?" -- not unlike the stares the reporters got from Joseph Cotten in "Citizen Kane."

golden braid

08-19-2005, 10:42 AM

I don't think the members of the band -- or even their respective managers -- have any idea what sort of footage may be locked away somewhere.
Didn't Mick mention last year in an interview about having all the Japan '77 footage hanging around somewhere. I remember being all excited about it since the footage we all seem to have is crappy quality.

GypsyAsh

08-19-2005, 11:29 AM

Ok there are 2 Japan backstage footage sets floating around. They are from 1977. The first one shows Stevie putting her making on and making some comments about it. There is a segment where Stevie seems very friendly with the roadies hugging and chatting and flirting. Lindsey whines a lot and wants 'French Food. There is an interview with Christine where she looks like she is a bit tipsy.

The second DVD set has 3 DVDs and is kind of the same but I don't think that Stevie with the roadies is in there.
There is some kind of a photo session and I think that band is all high. Mick has this odd ring and I think that it might be used for other reasons then jewelry. Chris and John exchange some words and John calls her a name.
Lindsey makes out with Carol Ann (Barf) and is still whining through out the video.
That is all that I can think of right now. Anyway they are a must have for any fan. I am sure that most traders (like myself) can set up a trade for them.

oooh I have to have these! But I have nothing for trade! How exactly do the 'traders' work this out?

Ciao!
Ash
x

David

08-19-2005, 11:33 AM

Didn't Mick mention last year in an interview about having all the Japan '77 footage hanging around somewhere.Could be. Some of it did show up, after all, in the Disney Going Home program (the scene backstage at one of the Japan gigs with Stevie holding a drink, laughing & horsing around with Mick, as well as "Landslide" in Tokyo).

sarafield

08-19-2005, 11:55 AM

oooh I have to have these! But I have nothing for trade!

I've wanted these too, but am not a trader as I have nothing of value. Anyone selling these? (Is it taboo to ask? :shrug: )

StevieNicksEO17

08-19-2005, 12:01 PM

I've wanted these too, but am not a trader as I have nothing of value. Anyone selling these? (Is it taboo to ask? :shrug: )

Yeah, I never understood how people got things when they first started out. I wouldn't mind paying for these, they sound really interesting! I gotta start somewhere!

Nixxxed

08-19-2005, 12:25 PM

I'm officially pissed.

The description says it's PAL format, yet Region 0. Does this mean it will or won't play on US players? :shrug:

And what happened to that online petition we all signed a few years ago to get all this crap officially released? I'd say we should revive it, in case the newer folks didn't know, but I'm beginning to think it is (and WAS) pointless...

estranged4life

08-19-2005, 02:43 PM

Exactly! like the part where Stevie is sitting on the sofa and screaming outloud at someone "he's gonna hate it!!! he's gonna hate it cuz i wrote it!!!"

.. i love that scene.. would love to have seen it in its entirety... but i guess it would have shed a negative light on Stevie and maybe she just didnt want the image of her being like that out there... ;)

that while Fleetwood Mac dropped the ball with "Destiny Rules" the Beatles community passed about a 10 DVD set of what was originally to be offered as "The Beatles Anthology", But this version of Anthology was yanked instead for the tamer/lamer version that was released (The unreleased version contains a bunch more interviews with the Beatles and their circle of friends, much more live music and rare footage never seen before instead of the one that became the officially released version.)

If there is as many hours of footage of outtakes from "Destiny Rules" as there is eported to be, Then I think it will only be a 'matter of time' before it shows up in circulation...

estranged4life

08-19-2005, 02:47 PM

I've wanted these too, but am not a trader as I have nothing of value. Anyone selling these? (Is it taboo to ask? :shrug: )

"all too well" who has these Japanese tour footage/outtakes who can hook ya up with a B&P trade (Blank & Postage trade) once 'he' comes back from 'his' short trading vacation/sabbatical.

Gee, I wonder who 'he' is??? Hmmm....:lol:

KateTheCursed

08-19-2005, 04:46 PM

The second DVD set has 3 DVDs and is kind of the same but I don't think that Stevie with the roadies is in there.
There is some kind of a photo session and I think that band is all high. Mick has this odd ring and I think that it might be used for other reasons then jewelry. Chris and John exchange some words and John calls her a name.
Lindsey makes out with Carol Ann (Barf) and is still whining through out the video.
That is all that I can think of right now. Anyway they are a must have for any fan. I am sure that most traders (like myself) can set up a trade for them.

There's 2 different versions floating around? Ack! I need the 2nd.

worldturning75

08-19-2005, 04:58 PM

I'm officially pissed.

The description says it's PAL format, yet Region 0. Does this mean it will or won't play on US players? :shrug:

Probably not unless your TV can display the PAL (video broadcast) format. The U.S. standard is NTSC. However, your pc dvd drive should be able to play the dvd and if you want, a program such as Nero can convert the video to the NTSC format so that it could play on your tv.

Region 0, a.k.a. Region Free, means that the dvd is not country specific. For example, Region 1 is the US & Canada.

WelshWitchPMD

08-19-2005, 05:51 PM

oooh I have to have these! But I have nothing for trade! How exactly do the 'traders' work this out?

Ciao!
Ash
x

I can do a 2 for 1 trade. You would send one blank DVD for every DVD that you wanted. So if you wanted 6 DVDs you would send 12 blanks.

If anyone is interested in these or any other DVDs please Private Message me. I am trading DVDs right now.

David

08-19-2005, 06:53 PM

a program such as Nero can convert the video to the NTSC format so that it could play on your tv.Nero can do that?! No kidding? How do you do that with Nero, mind my asking quickly before going on a Webwide search?

MacMan

08-19-2005, 07:40 PM

Didn't Mick mention last year in an interview about having all the Japan '77 footage hanging around somewhere. I remember being all excited about it since the footage we all seem to have is crappy quality.

Well if you look at the VH1 Headline Act show from 04 (I think it was). There is quite abit of footage in that which is the same footage that is in the Japan 3 dvd backstage, tour stuff... So someone has it, or had it to provide to VH1!

MacMan

08-19-2005, 07:42 PM

that while Fleetwood Mac dropped the ball with "Destiny Rules" the Beatles community passed about a 10 DVD set of what was originally to be offered as "The Beatles Anthology", But this version of Anthology was yanked instead for the tamer/lamer version that was released (The unreleased version contains a bunch more interviews with the Beatles and their circle of friends, much more live music and rare footage never seen before instead of the one that became the officially released version.)

If there is as many hours of footage of outtakes from "Destiny Rules" as there is eported to be, Then I think it will only be a 'matter of time' before it shows up in circulation...

Yeah, wasn't the tag line when they first were advertising DR that it was culled from over 500 hours of film :eek:

SteveMacD

08-19-2005, 07:43 PM

Yeah, why would Stevie solo videos wnd up on a Fleetwood Mac video? The USA link isn't even for the same DVD. :shrug:
The only thing I could speculate is that both WERE released on RCA videos, so maybe it was easier to get the rights to both.

Nixxxed

08-19-2005, 07:49 PM

Probably not unless your TV can display the PAL (video broadcast) format. The U.S. standard is NTSC. However, your pc dvd drive should be able to play the dvd and if you want, a program such as Nero can convert the video to the NTSC format so that it could play on your tv.

Region 0, a.k.a. Region Free, means that the dvd is not country specific. For example, Region 1 is the US & Canada.
Exactly. I thought

Region 0 - Universal, playable in all players
Region 1 - NTSC
Region 2 - PAL

I just don't understand how something can be Region 0, yet in the PAL format. Or maybe it's just a misprint, or they're specifically stating that it's viewable by PAL machines, since it's an Aussie release... :shrug:

And sadly, I don't have a DVD drive in my PC, but thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to get a monster-drive when/if I upgrade. Of course by then, BluRay will be out - AIEEEEEEEEE. :laugh:

dissention

08-19-2005, 08:17 PM

Exactly! like the part where Stevie is sitting on the sofa and screaming outloud at someone "he's gonna hate it!!! he's gonna hate it cuz i wrote it!!!"

.. i love that scene.. would love to have seen it in its entirety... but i guess it would have shed a negative light on Stevie and maybe she just didnt want the image of her being like that out there... ;)

Or the scene where she says to the camera "This is not about art, it's about finances." They completely took that out. :rolleyes:

The sad thing is that the doc was all about drama, but it really amounted to nothing and it would have been a better watch if they had made it about the actual construction of the album and the songs on it. If they were going to go for the drama, they should have included the juicy bits. What was the point of telling us that there were HUGE fights about the final product (running order, etc.) and not showing us a single piece of film on them?!

dissention

08-19-2005, 08:19 PM

Lindsey whines a lot and wants 'French Food.

"I'll make you an omelette."

"I don't waaaaaaaaaaant an omelette."

Gawd, he was ****ing baby in all of that footage!

dissention

08-19-2005, 08:29 PM

Nero can do that?! No kidding? How do you do that with Nero, mind my asking quickly before going on a Webwide search?

If you use the "Make Your Own DVD-Video" part of the program and you've added a PAL file to your project, this is what you do:

1. Click the "More" button at the bottom.
2. Click "Video Options"
3. Under the "Video mode" drop down menu, select NTSC.

You should be all set after that, though you'll probably have to fool around with the quality setting.

Macfanforever

08-19-2005, 09:53 PM

What else is new. other parts of the world gets everything, here in the USA, we got Sh2t. Oh will I geust I have to still watch my Betamax copy again. and fire up the ole 8 track player with the mirage album.

Macfanforever

08-19-2005, 09:59 PM

The only thing I could speculate is that both WERE released on RCA videos, so maybe it was easier to get the rights to both.

RCA Musicvision to be exact.

tynan88

08-19-2005, 10:07 PM

Exactly. I thought

Region 0 - Universal, playable in all players
Region 1 - NTSC
Region 2 - PAL

I just don't understand how something can be Region 0, yet in the PAL format. Or maybe it's just a misprint, or they're specifically stating that it's viewable by PAL machines, since it's an Aussie release... :shrug:

And sadly, I don't have a DVD drive in my PC, but thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to get a monster-drive when/if I upgrade. Of course by then, BluRay will be out - AIEEEEEEEEE. :laugh:

Actually the region doesn't determine if it is PAL or NTSC, PAL or NTSC are just colour formats. The region is just where the movie is from. 1 is America and Canada, 6 is Austalia but 0 can be played anywhere as long as it is a PAL format.

Johnny Stew

08-19-2005, 11:47 PM

tynan88

08-19-2005, 11:53 PM

Yer Stevie woulda had no probs pulling the doco all together, she is quite self conscious.

strandinthewind

08-19-2005, 11:57 PM

I don't know. I tend to think that if she had had a problem with how she came across in that footage, then she never would have let VH1 show it in the first place. You know what I mean?

Most things look much worse when taken out of context, as that was.

Yea - people have said that La Nicks edited it to make herself look better - but I agree that if she (or her people rather) hated it in the first place, it would have never been shown. Plus, the doc. showed some heavy stuff - so why take out the other stuff, some of which had already been shown. Finally, they all agreed to be filmed, so they must have been aware of that when they had the tantrums and La Nicks is usually the most outspoken and IMO the frankest of them in interviews in that she openly discussed her addictions (the coke after a few years - granted) and other things about working with FM and the environment around her :shrug:

But, people think otherwise -- that is what I think :cool:

worldturning75

08-20-2005, 12:57 AM

If you use the "Make Your Own DVD-Video" part of the program and you've added a PAL file to your project, this is what you do:

1. Click the "More" button at the bottom.
2. Click "Video Options"
3. Under the "Video mode" drop down menu, select NTSC.

You should be all set after that, though you'll probably have to fool around with the quality setting.

The only drawback to converting the dvd this way is that you lose the menu and chapters unless you create them manually.

worldturning75

08-20-2005, 01:11 AM

And sadly, I don't have a DVD drive in my PC, but thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to get a monster-drive when/if I upgrade. Of course by then, BluRay will be out - AIEEEEEEEEE. :laugh:

For $45 at newegg.com :thumbsup: , you can get one of the top dvd burners, the NEC 3540A.

BluRay and HD DVD still have to duke it out anyway.