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77Rumours77
08-17-2005, 10:47 PM
Welcome to Fleetwood Mac Tour Survivor! 1975-2005. Rounds 5-7
Voting will end everyday at 10 PM (CTS)
Voting will close at 9 O clock (CTS) Votes after 9 will not be accepted. This gives time to tally votes and check for errors!

The Contestants...
White Album Tour
Rumors Tour
Tusk Tour
Mirage Tour
Dance Tour


Voted Off - -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour
Behind The Mask Tour
Tango In The Night Tour

IMMUNITY
What song on the Time Tour was the only song by Stevie Nick?

Dark Angel
08-17-2005, 10:59 PM
IMMUNITY
What song on the Time Tour was the only song by Stevie Nick?[/QUOTE]

Gold Dust Woman

Immunity to Tusk tour

Dark Angel
08-17-2005, 11:00 PM
again.....................

nickslover2071
08-17-2005, 11:29 PM
round 5..the dance tour

ontheEdgeof17
08-17-2005, 11:31 PM
MIRAGE

....their harmonies were off a lot during this tour....and the set list seemed thrown together at the last minute

golden braid
08-17-2005, 11:33 PM
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sodascouts
08-17-2005, 11:34 PM
Too short to go up against the likes of the other remaining tours.

GypsySorcerer
08-17-2005, 11:44 PM
Ragged vocals.

face of glass
08-18-2005, 05:40 AM
The only tour left where it wasn't a real band playing, so out with it.

macfan 57
08-18-2005, 05:42 AM
I'm going with the Dance tour again. I loved the Mirage tour. The vocals were a bit ragged from time to time. So what... at least they were Fleetwood Mac vocals. Fleetwood Mac should NOT have back up singers.

ryan8472
08-18-2005, 06:06 AM
The Dance

Mirage is next on my hit list. :p

77Rumours77
08-18-2005, 06:35 AM
I think I will vote for Mirage now. I'll save the Dance for later.
Gotta love The Dance Tour though, it was my fisrt mac show!

chiliD
08-18-2005, 08:41 AM
IMMUNITY
What song on the Time Tour was the only song by Stevie Nick?
The Immunity question is invalid..they played TWO Stevie Nicks tunes during the Time tour..."Dreams" AND "Gold Dust Woman".

I know...I was there. This is the set they played:

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow By Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Tear It Up
Imagine

I've already had this debate with Stacey at the Nicksfix way back when they used that as their trivia question.

StevieNicksEO17
08-18-2005, 09:08 AM
Mirage Tour

dissention
08-18-2005, 11:25 AM
The Dance

It's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Fleetwood Mac and Company.

skcin
08-18-2005, 11:31 AM
I love the other tours more. :shrug:

jbrownsjr
08-18-2005, 11:46 AM
Welcome Everybody!!

strandinthewind
08-18-2005, 11:50 AM
MIRAGE

....their harmonies were off a lot during this tour....and the set list seemed thrown together at the last minute


I agree. I also thing they were so pissed at each other that it showed. Finally, Stevie's and LB's voices were in need of rest and you can hear it.

Having said that - they were both sunningly beautiful in this era.

This concert was also not the best for CM. I think this is around the time she started really thinking about retiring. Her vocals were great though.

dissention
08-18-2005, 11:55 AM
I agree. I also thing they were so pissed at each other that it showed. Finally, Stevie's and LB's voices were in need of rest and you can hear it.


I love the Mirage tour, it's their best alongside the White Album tour and the Tusk tour. The ragged vocals helped it (though, I admit, I cannot tolerate "Gypsy" on the video) and it was their last great rock and roll tour.

GypsySorcerer
08-18-2005, 12:01 PM
I love the Mirage tour, it's their best alongside the White Album tour and the Tusk tour. The ragged vocals helped it (though, I admit, I cannot tolerate "Gypsy" on the video) and it was their last great rock and roll tour.
Really? I can hardly stand to listen to Stevie on this tour, save Sisters of the Moon. :sorry: "Rhiannon" and "Gypsy" make my ears bleed. ;)

dissention
08-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Really? I can hardly stand to listen to Stevie on this tour, save Sisters of the Moon. :sorry: "Rhiannon" and "Gypsy" make my ears bleed. ;)

Meh, I'll gladly take it over the lethargic crap we got from '87-'91. :laugh: Her voice had character and poignancy during the Mirage tour, whereas she was nothing but flat, monotonous, and boring during those other years.

strandinthewind
08-18-2005, 12:06 PM
I love the Mirage tour, it's their best alongside the White Album tour and the Tusk tour. The ragged vocals helped it (though, I admit, I cannot tolerate "Gypsy" on the video) and it was their last great rock and roll tour.


I liked it too. But, in comparison to the tours for FM FM, Rumors, Tusk and The Dance, it is my least fav. Maybe it is because in the Mirage tour they seemed like less of unit, which, of course they were by then.

jbrownsjr
08-18-2005, 12:37 PM
Meh, I'll gladly take it over the lethargic crap we got from '87-'91. :laugh: Her voice had character and poignancy during the Mirage tour, whereas she was nothing but flat, monotonous, and boring during those other years.



agree 100% she had some muscle behind her voice on Tusk and Mirage

Richard B
08-18-2005, 12:42 PM
Great tour with some nice surprises (The Farmers Daughter)...but the older shows still ROCK harder.

Neal
08-18-2005, 12:54 PM
The Dance tour...

gldstwmn
08-18-2005, 03:02 PM
Goodbye Mirage!

Hawkeye
08-18-2005, 03:45 PM
the other 4 are too much better.

CreepingDeath
08-18-2005, 04:15 PM
Bad vocals ruin it for me.

Stevie was red hot during that time though.

AliceLover
08-18-2005, 04:50 PM
I was there and I got bored. By then I had watched the video 100 times and most of it was exactlyl ike the video.

SteveMacD
08-18-2005, 04:58 PM
The Dance. Is it me, or has there been seemingly a major flaw with every tour since 1987?

chiliD
08-18-2005, 05:25 PM
The Dance. Is it me, or has there been seemingly a major flaw with every tour since 1987?

Actually, since 1971.

Serrart
08-18-2005, 05:34 PM
Not much for the vocals, but mostly because it sounded like a decadence fest at times.

Romy

Hippocampus
08-18-2005, 06:53 PM
"___________"

msLinds
08-18-2005, 08:09 PM
Good Bye The Dance.




Its important to remember that nobody
belongs falls into a simple set of labels.



:wavey: ;)

HomerMcvie
08-18-2005, 08:40 PM
Dance puppet, dance.

77Rumours77
08-18-2005, 10:00 PM
Round 5 - The Dance
The Dance Tour, The Voters have spoken! You may now leave

The Dance - 17
Mirage - 9

The Dance -
Dark Angel
nickslover2071
golden braid
face of glass
macfan 57
ryan8472
chiliD
dissention
skcin
jbrownsjr
Richard B
Neal
Hawkeye
AliceLover
SteveMacD
Hippocampus
msLinds
HomerMcvie
Mirage -
ontheEdgeof17
sodascouts
GypsySorcerer
77Rumours77
StevieNicksEO17
strandinthewind
gldstwmn
CreepingDeath
Serrart

Remaning Contestants -
White Album Tour
Rumours Tour
Tusk Tour
Mirage Tour

Voted Off -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour
Behind The Mask Tour
Tango In The Night Tour
The Dance Tour

IMMUNITY
NO immunity this round... Its fair game now! :p

David
08-18-2005, 10:04 PM
I'll get rid of the White Album Tour since it sucked!!

ryan8472
08-18-2005, 10:05 PM
Mirage Tour

The source for a universe of goat jokes. :rolleyes: :laugh:

77Rumours77
08-18-2005, 10:08 PM
Mirage Tour

The source for a universe of goat jokes. :rolleyes: :laugh:

LOL, your so right! :D

ryan8472
08-18-2005, 10:12 PM
LOL, your so right! :D
I mean, even Lindsey and Chris (to some extent) were getting in on all the barnyard action. :rolleyes: :laugh:

AliceLover
08-18-2005, 10:14 PM
I Think Mirage was better.....

77Rumours77
08-18-2005, 10:18 PM
I mean, even Lindsey and Chris (to some extent) were getting in on all the barnyard action. :rolleyes: :laugh:


I think now is the perfect time for the goat pic....

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/213/sp28ql.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ryan8472
08-18-2005, 10:23 PM
I think now is the perfect time for the goat pic....

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/213/sp28ql.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Miss Nicks, Miss Nicks!!! Can we get an autograph?! :lol:

ontheEdgeof17
08-18-2005, 10:27 PM
Mirage Tour due to the horrors known as Gypsy and Hold Me.

ryan8472
08-18-2005, 10:34 PM
Mirage Tour due to the horrors known as Gypsy and Hold Me.
Amen, sistah. :lol: :nod:

HomerMcvie
08-18-2005, 11:08 PM
I'll get rid of the White Album Tour since it sucked!!
****, that's when Lindsey still played all the cool songs!

HomerMcvie
08-18-2005, 11:09 PM
I liked Mirage better.

ontheEdgeof17
08-18-2005, 11:10 PM
****, that's when Lindsey still played all the cool songs!


Cool, as in the songs he didn't write? :shrug: :)

HomerMcvie
08-18-2005, 11:15 PM
Cool, as in the songs he didn't write? :shrug: :)
Yep. Nail on the head! Green Manalishi, Oh Well, Hypnotized, Station Man, etc... :thumbsup:

chiliD
08-19-2005, 02:18 AM
...even though Lindsey FINALLY got the hang of "Oh Well" on this tour.

strandinthewind
08-19-2005, 02:28 AM
...even though Lindsey FINALLY got the hang of "Oh Well" on this tour.
You are being generous - - LB's finger picking never really suited the song, though he made the effort and with a B+ effort for the most part. What I would not have given to have had a BN harmony on Man of the World, Peter's greatest IMO.

macfan 57
08-19-2005, 05:25 AM
I'm going with the Mirage tour. The Mirage tour was great(although short), but the other three were better, in my opinion.

face of glass
08-19-2005, 07:31 AM
- LB's finger picking never really suited the song, though he made the effort and with a B+ effort for the most part.
The only problem I hear in his "Oh Wells" is that at certain versions on the White Album and Rumours tours there's some clumsy fingerpicking in the opening riffage. After that, though, it improved, I don't know if that was due to him getting a Turner or not. Other than those small awkward moments in the early versions, I hear no difference in emotional dedication, vocally or guitarwise, to ANY other live version of "Oh Well". In fact, my favourite live "Oh Well" right now is the first of Hollywood Bowl nights in August 31st, 1980.

But of course it's like a final nail to the coffin of the Rumours line-up, to suggest that its guitarist couldn't do the ultimate Fleetwood Mac song well enough. HAH! ;)

face of glass
08-19-2005, 07:35 AM
The Tusk and Mirage tours were more intense and the White Album tour was fresher and had no problems with "Rhiannons", for a start.

GypsySorcerer
08-19-2005, 08:34 AM
10 characters

chiliD
08-19-2005, 08:49 AM
But of course it's like a final nail to the coffin of the Rumours line-up, to suggest that its guitarist couldn't do the ultimate Fleetwood Mac song well enough. HAH! ;)

That's why, after hearing the SYW tour version of the main riff of "Eyes Of The World" with three guitars in harmony, I would've liked to have heard them do "Oh Well"...Lindsey was on a "I wanna be a guitar God" obsession (considering the hystrionics of "Come"), I think he would've really done a good job with "Oh Well" this last time out.

As of now, not counting the original studio version, my favorite live version is the one on the B-side of the "As Long As You Follow" single (with Billy on lead vocal, Rick on lead guitar)

golden braid
08-19-2005, 10:26 AM
Stevie's vocals were not so good.

msLinds
08-19-2005, 11:21 AM
Bye Mirage tour.


:wavey:

Neal
08-19-2005, 12:47 PM
White album tour

Dark Angel
08-19-2005, 01:32 PM
This is getting difficult. I love all the tours that are left.

Hippocampus
08-19-2005, 02:16 PM
"____________________"

CreepingDeath
08-19-2005, 06:49 PM
..........

SteveMacD
08-19-2005, 07:21 PM
Mirage tour. WAY too much chorus on Lindsey's guitar for my tastes.

jbrownsjr
08-19-2005, 07:29 PM
...even though Lindsey FINALLY got the hang of "Oh Well" on this tour.


i don't think i'm clear on how you feel about this matter.... :rolleyes:

Richard B
08-19-2005, 07:30 PM
As much as I do love this tour...they had much more material to play with live later on that was their own, that makes the later tours so much better by comparison.

77Rumours77
08-19-2005, 09:56 PM
This round so Mirage get the most votes, Goat voices and long guitar chords.
Mirage Tour, The voters have spoken. Please leave

The Mirage Tour - 9
White Album Tour - 5
Tusk Tour - 2
Rumours Tour - 1

Mirage Tour -
ryan8472
ontheEdgeof17
chiliD
macfan 57
GypsySorcerer
golden braid
msLinds
CreepingDeath
SteveMacD
White Album Tour -
David
Neal
Dark Angel
Hippocampus
RichardB
Tusk Tour -
Aliccelover
HomerMcvie
Rumours Tour -
face of glass

Vote Off -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour
Behind The Mask Tour
Tango In The Night Tour
The Dance Tour
Mirage Tour

Remaning Contestants -
The White Album Tour
Rumours Tour
Tusk Tour

FINAL 3

strandinthewind
08-19-2005, 10:07 PM
great tour, but La Nicks had not come into her own and LB was still shaky on the older FM stuff. But, when they clicked - SHEEBUS - see live Why as an example.

But, by the Rumors tour, they were all at the top of the 70's game and it was just better IMO.

The Tusk tour was the oddest one here. By then, I think they were all a little tired of each other. I also think the voices were changing a little for the worse. But, Tusk had Sara and that may make it win for me, though the SS on the first part of the Rumors tour is one of the best things I have ever heard in my life.

77Rumours77
08-19-2005, 10:32 PM
I vote Rumours Tour.
I want White Album to win, I love all thos Pre BN classics! Station Man, Spare Me A Little, Green manalishi, Hypnotized, Tell Me All The Things You Do, Believe Me, ect :thumbsup:

AliceLover
08-19-2005, 10:47 PM
again........

David
08-19-2005, 10:56 PM
Mirage tour. WAY too much chorus on Lindsey's guitar for my tastes.Yeah, what the fock was up with all that? He was running a much drier signal on the Tusk tour, so I like listening to that better.

Mirage was reverbing all over the ****ing house -- except for the venues they did outdoors, like the festivals, Irvine Meadows & Alpine Valley.

SteveMacD
08-19-2005, 10:57 PM
Rumours tour. I find the set lists of the 1975 tours to be more interesting. They had the pre-1975 pop-rock, some blues, Buckingham Nicks tunes, and new songs, and they tended to mix things up a bit. They also mixed things up a bit more on the "Tusk" tour, too. The "Rumours" tour, at least after they dropped all of the pre-1975 stuff, save "Oh Well," was pretty boring. A set list of songs that were almost entirely from two albums really doesn't do anything for me.

Actually, this band was at their BEST during the '76 tours. The "Rosebud" era. The time when the white album wasn't exactly new, but "Rumours" hadn't been released. They were doing the new songs, but they were still doing the really old songs. So, it had a very nice mix. Moreover, the band itself was absolutely smoking, not needing ANY extra musicians, not even Ray Lindsey. And, Stevie's voice was still very strong (although Christine was starting to do the higher harmonies live). But, these tours aren't really an option.

David
08-19-2005, 10:57 PM
great tour, but La Nicks had not come into her own and LB was still shaky on the older FM stuff. But, when they clicked - SHEEBUS - see live Why as an example.

But, by the Rumors tour, they were all at the top of the 70's game and it was just better IMO.

The Tusk tour was the oddest one here. By then, I think they were all a little tired of each other. I also think the voices were changing a little for the worse. But, Tusk had Sara and that may make it win for me, though the SS on the first part of the Rumors tour is one of the best things I have ever heard in my life.Strandy, strandy, strandy.

David
08-19-2005, 10:59 PM
Rumours tour. I find the set lists of the 1975 tours to be more interesting.Just how many 1975 set lists are floating around in A) your head, & B) your collection?

IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW,SIR!

David
08-19-2005, 11:01 PM
RumoursActually, this band was at their BEST during the '76 tours.Do you have the film footage from the 1976 Day On The Green? It's so cleansing, so special, so beautiful, so kinky, so morbid, so sublime to watch them on that outdoor stage -- kings of the world -- going through their hippie trip.

They really were a good band, once upon a time.

SteveMacD
08-19-2005, 11:10 PM
Just how many 1975 set lists are floating around in A) your head, & B) your collection?
A) Well, none in my head, really. I just got done with the first week of training on a new job, so that thinking organ between the ears is really not quite up to par.

B) At least four! Sure, they do many of the same songs, but no two sets are exactly the same. Nothing like the SYW tour (although, oddly, they did different sets each time I saw them on that tour).

sodascouts
08-19-2005, 11:16 PM
The live performances aren't as spirited (overall) as in the previous two tours. And Lindsey's screeching on "Not That Funny" makes my ears bleed. Thankfully for the Mirage tour he was able to rework it into something enjoyable to listen to.

ontheEdgeof17
08-19-2005, 11:23 PM
White Album Tour.


Only TWO Stevie songs? No... no...no...

strandinthewind
08-19-2005, 11:24 PM
Strandy, strandy, strandy.


Is that in outrage or in affirmance :shrug: :laugh:

strandinthewind
08-19-2005, 11:26 PM
Do you have the film footage from the 1976 Day On The Green? It's so cleansing, so special, so beautiful, so kinky, so morbid, so sublime to watch them on that outdoor stage -- kings of the world -- going through their hippie trip.

They really were a good band, once upon a time.

Is that the one they used on the Disney Special - La Nicks is in red boots and they show IMO stunning renditions of OVer My Head and ISA?

David
08-19-2005, 11:38 PM
Is that the one they used on the Disney Special - La Nicks is in red boots and they show IMO stunning renditions of OVer My Head and ISA?No, that's the rosebud promo film.

Probably shot around the same time -- spring 1976.

Fleetwood Mac was on the ascension in the United States!! It was a magickal mystickal time.

strandinthewind
08-19-2005, 11:49 PM
No, that's the rosebud promo film.

Probably shot around the same time -- spring 1976.

Fleetwood Mac was on the ascension in the United States!! It was a magickal mystickal time.

Yes, it was. I an remember it - I remember hearing the DJ's in New Orleans and Atlanta marveling over Rhiannon. I can rememeber the older kids in school all talking about it, esp. Stevie. Then, in the next couple of years, it just got better. Oh to have a time machine :cool:

SteveMacD
08-20-2005, 12:50 AM
White Album Tour.


Only TWO Stevie songs? No... no...no...
Actually, on that I agree, although they also did "Frozen Love" early on. I personally think Stevie should have handled the lead vocals on "Hypnotized" and "The Green Manalishi." OTOH, just doing two songs took a major toll on her voice.

strandinthewind
08-20-2005, 12:54 AM
Actually, on that I agree, although they also did "Frozen Love" early on. I personally think Stevie should have handled the lead vocals on "Hypnotized" and "The Green Manalishi." OTOH, just doing two songs took a major toll on her voice.

Well, I have always thought it was not really the singing that took the most toll. I think it was the partying. I mean she toured for a few years prior to The Mac and her voice lasted well into 1979 on the road and 1983 in the studio.

face of glass
08-20-2005, 04:24 AM
It's all been said before.

golden braid
08-20-2005, 09:05 AM
I liked when they actually had a little tiny bit of variety on the previous two tours.

ryan8472
08-20-2005, 09:20 AM
This is so tough now... Tusk Tour.

That hurt. But it had to be done. Nothing compares to the 75-77 years. :nod:

WelshWitchPMD
08-20-2005, 09:50 AM
That is my choice.

Hippocampus
08-20-2005, 10:05 AM
I have nothing else to add.

HomerMcvie
08-20-2005, 11:37 AM
I choose Tusk from the remaIning contestants. :rolleyes:

GypsySorcerer
08-20-2005, 11:40 AM
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macfan 57
08-20-2005, 03:23 PM
It's very close between the Tusk tour & the Rumours tour. I'll go with the Tusk tour. Some of the vocals were just a bit ragged at the end due to fatigue. But, both tours were terrific. That was Fleetwood Mac in their prime.

David
08-20-2005, 03:27 PM
But, both tours were terrific. That was Fleetwood Mac in their prime.I love you, Mary Anne.

CreepingDeath
08-20-2005, 04:32 PM
:wavey: :wavey:

Dreammms
08-20-2005, 05:28 PM
That is my choice.

That's my choice too :nod:


I missed this whole surviour while i was away....

michelle2677
08-20-2005, 05:56 PM
man, as much as I hate to do this....
Mirage tour :(

nickslover2071
08-20-2005, 05:59 PM
The White Album Tour

77Rumours77
08-20-2005, 11:59 PM
A very colse round, But it shows the earlied tour departing.
White Album tour, The voters have spoken. Please leave :wavey:

Tusk Tour - 5
White Album Tour - 7
Rumours Tour - 4


White Album Tour
strandinthewind
ontheEdgeof17
CreepingDeath
Dreammms
nickslover2071
Hippocampus
WelshWitchPMD
Rumours Tour
77Rumours77
SteveMacD
GypsySorcerer
face of glass
Tusk Tour
AliceLover
golden braid
ryan8472
HomerMcVie
macfan 57

Voted Off -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour
Behind The Mask The Mask Tour
The Dance Tour
Tango In The Night
Mirage Tour
White Album Tour


FINAL 2 ROUND 8! TUSK TOUR -vs- RUMOURS TOUR

chiliD
08-22-2005, 01:08 AM
White Album Tour.
Only TWO Stevie songs? No... no...no...

Two LEAD vocals...she sang harmonies on just about everything else, except "Oh Well"...even did the "in-tongues" thing at the end of "Green Manalishi".

To my ears, they were never tighter as at the end of the summer of 1977. So, Rumours tour for the win. :nod:

Although...that WAS the tour they started 86ing the pre-1975 material, until "Oh Well" was all that was left. They started out really well, even ADDING a Danny Kirwan tune or two ("Sunny Side Of Heaven" & "Tell Me All The Things You Do") and Christine pulled out an oldie, too ("Believe Me"). Then sometime during the early summer, Lindsey started into his brat routine and didn't want to play songs he didn't have a hand in creating.