Had to announce this... [Archive]

GateandGarden

07-22-2005, 08:19 PM

I finally bought Out of the Cradle y'all! I'm so glad that I can finally say I have a Lindsey solo album, not counting the GOS songs, which were free. I've only listened to it all the way through once, but so far I'm into "Don't Look Down," "Turn it On," "This Nearly Was Mine" (I'd heard this one before and fell in love with it) and "Say We'll Meet Again." I just wanted to share this.

wondergirl9847

07-22-2005, 11:59 PM

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your purchase of OOTC! It's a flawless, wonderful album. My fave songs are Surrender the Rain, Souldrifter and Doing What I Can. :thumbsup:

estranged4life

07-23-2005, 12:37 AM

I bought it a few months back in a bargain bin for $2.99, Still the best $2.99 I spent on any Rumours era Fleetwood Mac members solo album.

Janet

07-23-2005, 03:27 AM

OOTC will be your fav album for awhile. Be careful, you won't be able to listen to anything else. Plus, you will want to marry Lindsey and have his children...;-)

ontheEdgeof17

07-23-2005, 04:04 AM

I <3 this album! Congrats to you for finally getting it! I hope Countdown becomes a fav for you! ;)

trackaghost

07-23-2005, 05:42 AM

Hillary you will be a Lindsey obsessive before you know it!
Now you can join in with the OOTC survivor when it comes round!

Dreammms

07-23-2005, 10:34 AM

Yay Hillary! I love OOTC. Every song is so good! I have to listen to it at least once a week! My fav right now is You do or You Don't!

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 10:48 AM

Always glad to hear when someone picks up some Lindsey solo.
I actually like the "Go Insane" album better, but OOTC is, of course, wonderful too.

My favorite OOTC tune? "Doing What I Can"

WelshWitchPMD

07-23-2005, 10:58 AM

I actually like the "Go Insane" album better, but OOTC is, of course, wonderful too.

Which, I can't seem to find anywhere. I was in NYC last weekend and every store had both 'Law and Order" and OOTC but 'Go Insane" was nowhere to be had. I did have on CD but something must have happened to it because I could only get a few songs to play which are now on my PC. I need the whole CD, now.
I guess I could just go through Amazon.com.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:02 AM

Thanks Christy, Brian, Sharon, Janet, Curtis, Danielle, and Victoria! I listened to it all night last night. (Well, I did sleep, also). The only thing I don't care for is the spoken introduction to "Surrender the Rain." Seems really unnecessary. Plus it gets old mighty fast. But I have to say that there aren't any actual songs that I don't like! I love my Stevie but I can't say that about any of her albums, not even the first two that I love so, so much.

I didn't have much of an opinion yet when I listened to it all the way through the first time but the more I listened the more I realized how addictive it is. Wow. I really love "Say We'll Meet Again." It hits home right now and it's so beautiful. And "All My Sorrows" and "Doing What I Can." Love those! I can't get over how when I started out as a fan of FM (which was just a carry over from my Stevie fandom at the time), I couldn't have cared less about Lindsey. It was all about Stevie. Then I realized how great Christine is, and then it was Bob, and finally I figured out how great Lindsey is. Before, I was so closed-minded and one-sided about this. Now I can honestly say, between this album and the GOS songs, that I understand why there are many who prefer Lindsey to Stevie. The Chiffonhead in me is undying but now I see why like his music and his style better.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:04 AM

Which, I can't seem to find anywhere. I was in NYC last weekend and every store had both 'Law and Order" and OOTC but 'Go Insane" was nowhere to be had. I did have on CD but something must have happened to it because I could only get a few songs to play which are now on my PC. I need the whole CD, now.
I guess I could just go through Amazon.com.I was just going to add that I might take Victoria's advice and go with that one as my next Lindsey purchase, but I'm like you--I haven't seen it anywhere. At Tower Records yesterday, I found OOTC and Law and Order but no Go Insane. I'll have to go through Amazon, I think. I wind up having to do that with a lot of music, though.

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 11:05 AM

Which, I can't seem to find anywhere. I was in NYC last weekend and every store had both 'Law and Order" and OOTC but 'Go Insane" was nowhere to be had. I did have on CD but something must have happened to it because I could only get a few songs to play which are now on my PC. I need the whole CD, now.
I guess I could just go through Amazon.com.

I've only ever seen one store that had all three albums, which was Best Buy.
Actually I've only been in two stores that carried his music at all. The other one was Barnes and Noble, but they only had OOTC.

When I bought my copies of his albums, I had to special order them. I didn't have credit cards at the time so I couldn't buy online. Actually, at the time I was still in High School and didn't have a job. But I used to save my lunch money and walk to the store after school and buy cds with it. :D

GypsySorcerer

07-23-2005, 11:06 AM

Congrats! :xoxo: Hope you enjoy it. 'Tis my favorite of Lindsey's.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:07 AM

I've only ever seen one store that had all three albums, which was Best Buy.
Actually I've only been in two stores that carried his music at all. The other one was Barnes and Noble, but they only had OOTC.Oh, I forgot about Best Buy. I've seen him in Barnes and Noble, too, and also in Tower Records and Virgin Records (though they were out of stock last time I was in there).

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:08 AM

Congrats! :xoxo: Hope you enjoy it. 'Tis my favorite of Lindsey's.Thank you love. :xoxo:

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 11:09 AM

Thanks Christy, Brian, Sharon, Janet, Curtis, Danielle, and Victoria! I listened to it all night last night. (Well, I did sleep, also). The only thing I don't care for is the spoken introduction to "Surrender the Rain." Seems really unnecessary.

Really? I love his intro! Then again, I just love hearing his voice no matter what (high pitched, deep, cracking, laughing, singing, talking...).

Believe it or not, my initial interest in Fleetwood Mac was a carry over of my love (at the time) of Stevie Nicks, or Bella Donna specifically. But as soon as "The Chain" started on the premiere of The Dance... my loyalties shifted and fast. I've been a Buckinghamaniac ever since.

Nico

07-23-2005, 11:11 AM

I can't get over how when I started out as a fan of FM (which was just a carry over from my Stevie fandom at the time), I couldn't have cared less about Lindsey. It was all about Stevie. Then I realized how great Christine is, and then it was Bob, and finally I figured out how great Lindsey is. Before, I was so closed-minded and one-sided about this. Now I can honestly say, between this album and the GOS songs, that I understand why there are many who prefer Lindsey to Stevie. The Chiffonhead in me is undying but now I see why like his music and his style better.

Yay Hil!!! :thumbsup: :xoxo: I am SO happy for you...(I guess now I better get Mirage then, right?) Oh, and I got your email and I so will reply as soon as I can...I'm just thrilled you got OOTC because it has now become, like, my second fave album of all time (I mean, it overtook the Beatles, The Velvet Underground, Polly, Leonard, George...that means something). But, yeah, second to Plastic Ono Band for me, now. Love it. Love it. It's perfect. I even like the little speaking parts, though I totally get what you mean, lol!

David

07-23-2005, 11:13 AM

Really? I love his intro! Then again, I just love hearing his voice no matter what (high pitched, deep, cracking, laughing, singing, talking.That intro pitched somebody I know into a very severe unipolar depressive illness, which lasted approximately 7 months & resulted in several suicide attempts as well as a period of hospitalization.
Believe it or not, my initial interest in Fleetwood Mac was a carry over of my love (at the time) of Stevie Nicks, or Bella Donna specifically.Musically speaking, that's the wrong order at which to come at Fleetwood Mac. You did it ass-backwards. It might have ruined your appreciated for a well-crafted track or an unusual production job.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:17 AM

Yay Hil!!! :thumbsup: :xoxo: I am SO happy for you...(I guess now I better get Mirage then, right?) Oh, and I got your email and I so will reply as soon as I can...I'm just thrilled you got OOTC because it has now become, like, my second fave album of all time (I mean, it overtook the Beatles, The Velvet Underground, Polly, Leonard, George...that means something). But, yeah, second to Plastic Ono Band for me, now. Love it. Love it. It's perfect. I even like the little speaking parts, though I totally get what you mean, lol!Jen! :xoxo: :xoxo: I was about to send you a little e-mail to announce this to you because I know you've been wondering when I was going to get a clue and get the thing! :laugh: I'm so happy I did. Sometimes I buy CDs and wonder why they had to cost nearly twenty dollars after I listened to them and wasn't terribly impressed but this time I know I got something worth every penny! (And it was on sale for 13 bucks and that's always nice).

And now it's your turn to get Mirage. Or I can just send you "Oh Diane" and "Can't Go Back" lol. No, no you have to get it sometime. I think you'd like the Stevie songs on it that you haven't heard. And "Can't Go Back" is one of my favorite Lindsey songs, though there's a lot of competition for that now! :]

WelshWitchPMD

07-23-2005, 11:18 AM

I was just going to add that I might take Victoria's advice and go with that one as my next Lindsey purchase, but I'm like you--I haven't seen it anywhere. At Tower Records yesterday, I found OOTC and Law and Order but no Go Insane. I'll have to go through Amazon, I think. I wind up having to do that with a lot of music, though.

I like Amazon but there is nothing like going to a store and rushing back home to open it and pop it in your player. God I miss those days!
Anyway, glad to hear that you are enjoying OOTC. :)

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 11:19 AM

Musically speaking, that's the wrong order at which to come at Fleetwood Mac. You did it ass-backwards. It might have ruined your appreciated for a well-crafted track or an unusual production job.Hey, I screwed up a lot more than she did. I started out on TISL and then Timespace. How weird is that?

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 11:21 AM

That intro pitched somebody I know into a very severe unipolar depressive illness, which lasted approximately 7 months & resulted in several suicide attempts as well as a period of hospitalization.
Musically speaking, that's the wrong order at which to come at Fleetwood Mac. You did it ass-backwards. It might have ruined your appreciated for a well-crafted track or an unusual production job.

Your friend? Sad. But def. not LB's fault.

As for getting into Fleetwood Mac the way I did... What can I say? I only became interested in Stevie because of her collaborations with Tom Petty. Then only found out that she was in Fleetwood Mac shortly before the '97 reunion.
Before that she was just "that blonde chick that sang with Tom."

BTW, I was all of 16 years old when The Dance first aired.

Nico

07-23-2005, 11:28 AM

Jen! :xoxo: :xoxo: I was about to send you a little e-mail to announce this to you because I know you've been wondering when I was going to get a clue and get the thing! :laugh: I'm so happy I did. Sometimes I buy CDs and wonder why they had to cost nearly twenty dollars after I listened to them and wasn't terribly impressed but this time I know I got something worth every penny! (And it was on sale for 13 bucks and that's always nice).

And now it's your turn to get Mirage. Or I can just send you "Oh Diane" and "Can't Go Back" lol. No, no you have to get it sometime. I think you'd like the Stevie songs on it that you haven't heard. And "Can't Go Back" is one of my favorite Lindsey songs, though there's a lot of competition for that now! :]

Definitely. I will get the album. It's on my list, believe me. I'm so happy you really like the album. I think it's perfect...and I'm even happier you got it on sale. Now you have a Lindsey solo item!!! (aside from GOS tracks)...yay!! I have to email you soon so I can see what you think. :nod: :blob1:

sodascouts

07-23-2005, 12:01 PM

I was just going to add that I might take Victoria's advice and go with that one as my next Lindsey purchase, but I'm like you--I haven't seen it anywhere. At Tower Records yesterday, I found OOTC and Law and Order but no Go Insane. I'll have to go through Amazon, I think. I wind up having to do that with a lot of music, though.

I remember when I first got OOTC. It was after I bought the Dance and was completely bowled over by Lindsey's talent. I loved OOTC so much that I bought both Law and Order and Go Insane at the local Best Buy a week later. I didn't like this as much, but I'm still glad I got them. Lindsey rules!

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 12:20 PM

I remember when I first got OOTC. It was after I bought the Dance and was completely bowled over by Lindsey's talent. I loved OOTC so much that I bought both Law and Order and Go Insane at the local Best Buy a week later. I didn't like this as much, but I'm still glad I got them. Lindsey rules!That's how I feel! I'm overwhelmed by him. There are so many different things going on in this album. This is how I felt when I first heard the GOS songs, too.

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 01:02 PM

That's how I feel! I'm overwhelmed by him. There are so many different things going on in this album. This is how I felt when I first heard the GOS songs, too.

Gift of Screws and OOTC and Go Insane and Law & Order are like night and day. Very, very different. GOS and OOTC are much more introspective whereas the first two albums are quirky and experimental. So you might not like them or at least not as much.

Go Insane was the first LB solo album I ever got. I didn't know anything about his solo work so I chose Go Insane because I thought I knew the title song (from the Dance performance, but let me tell you, the live version and the album version are two very different songs). Then I got the other two.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 01:42 PM

Gift of Screws and OOTC and Go Insane and Law & Order are like night and day. Very, very different. GOS and OOTC are much more introspective whereas the first two albums are quirky and experimental. So you might not like them or at least not as much.

Go Insane was the first LB solo album I ever got. I didn't know anything about his solo work so I chose Go Insane because I thought I knew the title song (from the Dance performance, but let me tell you, the live version and the album version are two very different songs). Then I got the other two.Thanks for the info. Well, I do know that I like "Johnny Stew" (not just the moderator but the song, too), though not as much as the GOS and OOTC stuff.

On a similar note, I've always wondered why so many people seem to hate "September Song," which I haven't heard yet. Maybe I'll know when I hear it.

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 01:58 PM

Thanks for the info. Well, I do know that I like "Johnny Stew" (not just the moderator but the song, too), though not as much as the GOS and OOTC stuff.

On a similar note, I've always wondered why so many people seem to hate "September Song," which I haven't heard yet. Maybe I'll know when I hear it.

If you like "Johnny Stew," you might like his first two albums then.
I wasn't aware that people hate "September Song." It certainly isn't one of Lindsey's best songs, but I really like the way his voice sounds on it.

"and the days dwindle down to a precious few..."

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 02:04 PM

I wasn't aware that people hate "September Song." It certainly isn't one of Lindsey's best songs, but I really like the way his voice sounds on it.

"and the days dwindle down to a precious few..."I just remember some thread at some point (that narrows it down! :laugh: ) in which people were talking about what they thought were his worst songs and people were debating whether "Family Man" was better or worse than "September Song." Some people were saying that he never should've done "September Song."

Miss Vicky

07-23-2005, 02:10 PM

I just remember some thread at some point (that narrows it down! :laugh: ) in which people were talking about what they thought were his worst songs and people were debating whether "Family Man" was better or worse than "September Song." Some people were saying that he never should've done "September Song."

Well, to each their own I guess. The only Lindsey song that I truly don't like is "Oh Diane." The lyrics are inane, the music is bland, and even his wonderful voice can't save it.

"Love is like a grain of sand, slowly slippin' through your hand..." :eek: :distress:

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 02:13 PM

Well, to each their own I guess. The only Lindsey song that I truly don't like is "Oh Diane." The lyrics are inane, the music is bland, and even his wonderful voice can't save it.

"Love is like a grain of sand, slowly slippin' through your hand..." :eek: :distress:Awwww. Well, I can't really blame you but I still love it. I was thinking about my latest crush the other day while listening to it. Her name's not Diane but it rhymes with Diane so I was singing it and putting her name in. It was so fun, like the song.

But I can understand why you don't like it. I hate "Family Man." It's the only one I feel that way about. Though I will say that, unlike Stevie's worst Tango offering, WISYA, it's actually listenable.

Johnny Stew

07-23-2005, 02:34 PM

Congratulations, Hill!

My faves on 'Out Of The Cradle': "Wrong," "Doing What I Can," "You Do Or You Don't," "Turn It On" and "All My Sorrows."
I love the entire album actually, but I've never found an appreciation for "Street Of Dreams." Every now and then I'll let it play through, but more often than not, I have to skip it... along with the spoken intro to "Surrender The Rain."

I really latched onto a couple of these songs during my "dark period" about ten years back. The very first time I ever really emotionally connected with Lindsey's work (aside from "I'm So Afraid"). :nod:

"You are the man, do what you can... just go out and turn it on...."

Hawkeye

07-23-2005, 02:34 PM

OOTC was the greatest thing I had EVER heard when I first purchased it about 3 years ago. I still love it alot. My favorites are This is the Time, Wrong, Street of Dreams, You Do OR You Dont and Countdown. The only songs I dislike are Surrender the Rain and This Nearly Was Mine

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 02:39 PM

Thanks Brian and Hawkeye; I like all the songs y'all like (right now I like all of it besides the spoken intro).

Brian, I know what you mean about connecting emotionally with his music. That doesn't happen for me every time, either. I've connected with some of the GOS songs and now this. Very much this one. :nod:

Hawkeye, how come you don't like "Surrender the Rain" and "This Nearly Was Mine"? "This Nearly Was Mine" is the only one I had heard beforehand. I heard a live version, actually (which I think was better than the album version) and I LOVED it. You and I are never consistent with the song likes and dislikes, though. We agree on "Angel" but I know you hate "Miranda" and I love that one.

Johnny Stew

07-23-2005, 02:47 PM

Brian, I know what you mean about connecting emotionally with his music. That doesn't happen for me every time, either. I've connected with some of the GOS songs and now this.'Out Of The Cradle' was definitely the album that changed my opinion of Lindsey -- for the better.
I always loved his music for the sound of it and the production finesse. But it was always for those aesthetic qualities more than anything else. Like I said, until 'Cradle,' "I'm So Afraid" was pretty much his only song that I really connected with in a major way. But 'Cradle' really hit me where I live.

Unfortunately, I can't really say the same about too many of his 'Gift Of Screws' tracks. Not that I don't love those, too -- it's just that there were really only two or three of them that I truly connected with.

macmar71

07-23-2005, 05:46 PM

OOTC is superb!! Kick A$$ guitar work, melting vocals and need I say more... glad you like it! :blob1: :blob2: :blob1: :blob2:

sodascouts

07-23-2005, 05:54 PM

That intro pitched somebody I know into a very severe unipolar depressive illness, which lasted approximately 7 months & resulted in several suicide attempts as well as a period of hospitalization.

Oh, David, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I can relate, though. I had a good friend who was plunged into the depths of despair after contemplating the lyrics to "Holiday Road." Only after years of therapy was he able to overcome the depression this brought on, but to this day he can't watch any of the National Lampoon's Vacation series. Luckily the joy Lindsey brings outweighs these few tragic incidents.

Hawkeye

07-23-2005, 05:58 PM

Hawkeye, how come you don't like "Surrender the Rain" and "This Nearly Was Mine"? "This Nearly Was Mine" is the only one I had heard beforehand. I heard a live version, actually (which I think was better than the album version) and I LOVED it. You and I are never consistent with the song likes and dislikes, though. We agree on "Angel" but I know you hate "Miranda" and I love that one.

Surrender the Rain was my second favorite song off OOTC the first few months I owned it, now it just annoys me, so who knows this could happen to you! :laugh: And This Nearly Was Mine is just a bad instrumental to my ears. Lets see, I like Miranda better then I do Surrender the Rain

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 06:02 PM

OOTC is superb!! Kick A$$ guitar work, melting vocals and need I say more... glad you like it! :blob1: :blob2: :blob1: :blob2:Thanks Christa; I'm having a blast with it! :)

estranged4life

07-23-2005, 07:41 PM

Be careful, you won't be able to listen to anything else. Plus, you will want to marry Lindsey and have his children...;-)

but not that much.

GateandGarden

07-23-2005, 08:37 PM

but not that much.:lol: Same here.

glitter_fades

07-23-2005, 11:17 PM

Lindsey Jr.

07-24-2005, 05:54 AM

GateandGarden

07-24-2005, 09:45 AM

Well, now you can be REALLY sure how good he is :nod: I still think it's his best solo release.Thanks! I don't know yet (haven't heard those other two) but I can bet that it is his best! :)

Lindsey Jr.

07-24-2005, 10:44 AM

Thanks! I don't know yet (haven't heard those other two) but I can bet that it is his best! :)

You're welcome :)

GateandGarden

07-24-2005, 11:37 AM

He's going to kill someone before he knows it. Maybe it's for the best that Gift of Screws was never released to the masses.I know songwriters who make much more depressing music than Lindsey, though. :shrug:

Miss Vicky

07-24-2005, 01:43 PM

I know songwriters who make much more depressing music than Lindsey, though. :shrug:

Here's the thing about Lindsey's intro... It isn't really depressing. It's actually hopeful.

I've got to stop this obsession
Of revenge and fear
I've been running from everything
That I once held dear
And it feels so cold
It feels like sin
I've got to stop this obsession
And start living again

So the fact that this drove someone to attempt suicide doesn't make any real sense and the person obviously has issues that have nothing to do with LB's words.

Lindsey Jr.

07-24-2005, 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Miss Vicky]Here's the thing about Lindsey's intro... It isn't really depressing. It's actually hopeful.

Yeah, it can be hopeful, depressing... that's the beauty of his music and his guitar playing. (And have to say, I'm listing to out of the cradle right now and I'm crazy 'bout wrong & this is the time ;))

GateandGarden

07-24-2005, 02:24 PM

Here's the thing about Lindsey's intro... It isn't really depressing. It's actually hopeful.

I've got to stop this obsession
Of revenge and fear
I've been running from everything
That I once held dear
And it feels so cold
It feels like sin
I've got to stop this obsession
And start living again

So the fact that this drove someone to attempt suicide doesn't make any real sense and the person obviously has issues that have nothing to do with LB's words.I don't think it's right to attribute anyone's attempted to suicide to an artist's music, unless perhaps the person dated the artist and then the artist wrote some bitter songs about him or her or something of that nature. Whether the intro is hopeful or hopeless, that doesn't really matter, I don't think. What would drive someone to attempt suicide would be something that's actually happening (or not happening) in his or her life. I could be wrong. :shrug:

But about the point you're trying to make--I do agree. The last line makes it optimisitc rather than hopeless.

GateandGarden

07-24-2005, 02:27 PM

And they kill people. Their music should never be released to the masses, no? It's the only humane thing to do.Can I go out on a limb and assume you're joking? :shrug:

GateandGarden

07-24-2005, 06:45 PM

You could.Okay, I will. I'll try not to fall off. :)

Miss Vicky

07-25-2005, 02:49 AM

Okay, I will. I'll try not to fall off. :)

Just had to say that I love your new avatar!

He's so adorable in that video. The man can't do a convincing lip sync to save his life though.

GateandGarden

07-28-2005, 12:21 AM

Just had to say that I love your new avatar!

He's so adorable in that video. The man can't do a convincing lip sync to save his life though.Oh, sorry it took me forever to see this! Thank you! :wavey: I'm not sure why but I love his hair like that. :nod: