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skcin
07-18-2005, 08:33 AM
Hubby & I got into it yesterday. When Ry, Curtis & I went to the Pittsburgh show, Ry & I slept in the same bed. For those of you that don't know, he's gay & we've been friends for about 10 years. There were only 2 beds & 3 people, so we shared.
So, I had friend over (including Ry) the other night & we were laughing about how at home I have a husband to kick me in our sleep & in Pitts I had a gay boyfirend kicking me.
The next day, hubby told me that he thought that it was wrong that I slept in the same bed with Ryan & that it had better not ever happen again. :shocked: I said I didn't think there was any difference with sharing a bed with my gay male friend or my straight female friends if there's not enough beds. I told him if it upset him that much, it wouldn't happen again. :shrug: I also told him that if he finds a lesbian friend, he can sleep in the same bed as her & then we'll be even. ;)
But I still don't get it - we slept on opposite ends of the bed back to back. It's not like we were spooning or anything. What do you guys think? Apparently if this situation comes up again, I'll be sleeping in the tub. :angel:
eclipse
07-18-2005, 09:18 AM
Hi Paula
I think my husband would react the same way...
Is it right? No.
But guys just have this "Thing" about gay men. I can understand how it would make your husband uncomfortable.
Remember, as girls...we used to sleep over our friends house and share a bed and think nothing of it- So I am sure you look at Curtis the same way- (No offense meant C- :p ), but like you said you wouuld think nothing of sharing the bed with a girlfriend..(Me either. I went out to California last year to visit my best friend and we stayed in luxury hotels all up the coast of Ca. during our adventures, some only had 1 bed-no big deal, we shared)...
Men, when they are boys, don't really "do" sleepovers and they don't share the bed with their boyfriends...know what I mean?
So, I think that to your husband this must seem very strange-
I am sure if my husband were put into a situation where he was with another straight guy and there were only 1 bed available he would say- "Hey, no problem, I'll take the floor" (and mean it!!). It's just a guy thing- I think
Just a thought...
~~eclipse~~
DrummerDeanna
07-18-2005, 09:20 AM
Actually I would be a bit mad if it were the other way around.
BUT I tend to be a jealous person, and I've been working on that so I don't know.
I mean I don't think there was anything wrong with you sleeping with your gay friends, but if the shoe were on the other foot would it really not bother you for your husband to sleep in the same bed with a lesbian?
I don't know - some people really aren't bothered by stuff like that - but some are. Either way - sucks that you and your hubby had a row over it.
skcin
07-18-2005, 09:21 AM
Yeah, that sounds right. He didn't freak out or anything, but I was upset because I really don't think I did anything wrong. If I had any clue he would react this way, I would have asked for a cot or something.
Boys. :mad:
eclipse
07-18-2005, 09:32 AM
So.........
Live and learn.....right? Next time you'll know :)
and I agree-boys :]
skcin
07-18-2005, 09:39 AM
Actually I would be a bit mad if it were the other way around.
BUT I tend to be a jealous person, and I've been working on that so I don't know.
I mean I don't think there was anything wrong with you sleeping with your gay friends, but if the shoe were on the other foot would it really not bother you for your husband to sleep in the same bed with a lesbian?
I don't know - some people really aren't bothered by stuff like that - but some are. Either way - sucks that you and your hubby had a row over it.
I've been thinking about that - in theory, I really don't think I'd get upset if he slept in the same bed as a gay chick. Of course, in reality, if said gay chick is a hot blond with huge boobs, I'm sure I'd feel differently whether it was warranted or not. :o
We're all good, it's blown over, I guess I was just a little shocked at his reaction. He rarely gets mad about stuff. I apologized & made the solemn vow never to make a gay man my bed buddy again. :angel: Sorry Curty, but our future looks bleak.
DrummerDeanna
07-18-2005, 09:45 AM
I've been thinking about that - in theory, I really don't think I'd get upset if he slept in the same bed as a gay chick. Of course, in reality, if said gay chick is a hot blond with huge boobs, I'm sure I'd feel differently whether it was warranted or not. :o
We're all good, it's blown over, I guess I was just a little shocked at his reaction. He rarely gets mad about stuff. I apologized & made the solemn vow never to make a gay man my bed buddy again. :angel: Sorry Curty, but our future looks bleak.
But if she had a mullet, sleeveless flannel shirt and biker boots it would be as big a deal, right? Lol....kidding.
skcin
07-18-2005, 09:53 AM
But if she had a mullet, sleeveless flannel shirt and biker boots it would be as big a deal, right? Lol....kidding.
Exaaactly. :nod: :o
GardenStateGirlie
07-18-2005, 09:56 AM
Apparently your husband has never seen an episode of Will & Grace :laugh: Gay men are -- gay. Aside from having breast envy and being the greatest shopping partner and one of the best listeners you will ever have in your life, they have zero sexual attraction to you. I don't get what the big deal is but then again, i'm not married :cool: Oh, and your spot on that if it was some lipstick lesbian with huge breasts who was beautiful, he'd probably be like, "that's fine." Typical male reaction :rolleyes:
GypsySorcerer
07-18-2005, 09:59 AM
Last summer, my best friend, who is gay, shared my bed when he visited. He offered to sleep on the couch, but I told him it was ridiculous since I have a queen-sized bed. We also roomed together for a year in college, though we had separate bedrooms. I didn't think it was a big deal.
But one night when he was here, my ex-boyfriend called and I said something about Eric being in bed next to me. Now, he knows Eric and likes him, but he still reacted strangely. :shrug:
Anyway, I'm glad you're all good. :)
The Tower
07-18-2005, 10:10 AM
I slept in the same bed with one of my really good friends, who happens to be a bisexual woman. My partner didn't have an issue with it. :shrug:
Jealousy is weird. I don't get it. Straight guys are even more weird when it comes to their outlook on gay men. I think it's interesting how insecurity can worm its way out into the open in certain situations.
The internet psychiatrist in me suspects that your husband envies your gay boyfriend because perhaps your gay boyfriend provides you something that he cannot.
skcin
07-18-2005, 10:27 AM
^ Could be. :shrug: Jealous of our Mac bond, lol.
It's odd, cuz he's not the jealous type at all. I think it was more about the fact that although I wasn't hiding it, I didn't come home & say "guess what, I was in bed with Ryan!" It came up in casual conversation later - to be honest, I really did think I had mentioned this previously to him. But any time I talk about Stevie/Mac at all, I get this: :rolleyes: He may have tuned me out initially.
Miss Vicky
07-18-2005, 10:44 AM
I'm not in a relationship, so I can't really say for sure, but I don't think I'd have a problem with it.
I've shared a bed with a gay friend of mine several times and it'd be mighty hypocritical of me to have a problem if my (hypothetical) significant other did the same.
Although it should be said that not all straight men are really insecure with the idea of gay men or the sharing of beds. My best friend's straight brother has shared a bed with my gay friend when there's been a shortage of sleeping spots. :shrug:
sodascouts
07-18-2005, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I'd have to agree it seems to be a guy thing. We girls may think nothing of sleeping with a gay man, but in truth, as you admitted Paula, if my (currently hypothetical) boyfriend slept with a hot lesbian I might feel a bit uncomfortable. The truth is the parts are right for there to be trouble. ;)
Also, it's kind of a compliment (as long as he doesn't go overboard and get nasty). Your husband is, of course, very attracted to you. It's probably all too easy for him to imagine that even a gay guy might find you desirable enough to make you the exception to his rule. :)
skcin
07-18-2005, 10:57 AM
^ I must be so hot he thinks I can turn a gay guy! Yeah, that's it! :laugh:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 10:58 AM
Hubby & I got into it yesterday. When Ry, Curtis & I went to the Pittsburgh show, Ry & I slept in the same bed. For those of you that don't know, he's gay & we've been friends for about 10 years. There were only 2 beds & 3 people, so we shared.
So, I had friend over (including Ry) the other night & we were laughing about how at home I have a husband to kick me in our sleep & in Pitts I had a gay boyfirend kicking me.
The next day, hubby told me that he thought that it was wrong that I slept in the same bed with Ryan & that it had better not ever happen again. :shocked: I said I didn't think there was any difference with sharing a bed with my gay male friend or my straight female friends if there's not enough beds. I told him if it upset him that much, it wouldn't happen again. :shrug: I also told him that if he finds a lesbian friend, he can sleep in the same bed as her & then we'll be even. ;)
But I still don't get it - we slept on opposite ends of the bed back to back. It's not like we were spooning or anything. What do you guys think? Apparently if this situation comes up again, I'll be sleeping in the tub. :angel:
Hmm...thats a tough one. I dont want to offend, but I would *think* that you would have known that would have bothered your husband had he found out about it, and therefore, not slept in the bed with Ry. BUT...on the other hand, if there was no doubt in your mind about anything remotely sexual occuring...then I guess you have a point as well. I, to be on the safe side, would have told my husband about it first thing to avoid him getting pissed later. Because now that he finds out after the fact, he's going to feel he can't trust you now (even if he says he does.)
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 11:14 AM
So, to answer your question...yes I probably would be mad. Most guys tend to get protective and jealous in those situations, and I'm one of them. But, I'd probably forgive you after you let me touch your boobies, and then maybe have some sweaty pig-sex. ROFL!
skcin
07-18-2005, 11:16 AM
^ Now what would hubby think if I let you touch my boobies :eek: .
Oh, wait, I guess that was hypothetical. :o
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 11:18 AM
^ Now what would hubby think if I let you touch my boobies :eek: .
Oh, wait, I guess that was hypothetical. :o
sorry for the confusion! Yeah, I meant hypothetically!!!! haha
catinthedark
07-18-2005, 11:45 AM
Hmm.. I think my train of thought on this would be right along yours, Paula. To me, sleeping in the same bed as a gay guy is akin to sleeping with a girlfriend. IE, just not a threat. But I wonder if your hubby wasn't so upset about that than he was at the fact that he found out in front of your other mutual friends? Maybe he felt a little embarrassed. Just a theory i throw out there. I'd definitely be jealous if my boyfriend or hubby slept in the same bed as another hetro girl - but if he slept in the same bed as a gay girl? I don't think I'd be upset. Actually, I know I wouldn't be. It's not like a gay person just chooses to be gay one minute and chooses not to be gay another (sorry, that would be me stating the obvious). Either way, sorry to hear you got into it over this... did you have great make-up sex at least?? :laugh: :laugh:
amber
07-18-2005, 11:58 AM
Sorry, Miss P, *hehehehe*, but I think he had a rare case of TIHS right then. :shrug:
(totally illogical husband syndrome).
I don't think I would care, either, if my husband shared a bed with a hot lesbian, because, in both cases, no one is getting any, no matter how hot they are. Even if your husband was attracted to said theoretical hot lesbian, or you were attracted to Ryan, still nothing would happen, and you'd both (in theory) still be attracted to said gay people whether you slept on a cot or in the bed.
I think it's nice you compromised with your husband, though.
darklinensuit
07-18-2005, 01:29 PM
Of course, in reality, if said gay chick is a hot blond with huge boobs, I'm sure I'd feel differently whether it was warranted or not .
Of course, he might want you in the bed at the same time. ;) :lol:
I am just about the least jealous person there is. I wouldn't be upset if I knew the gay guy, but if I didn't there might be the sneaking suspicion that this guy is not have any loyalty to a friendship with me & might be pretending to be gay to get into bed with my girlfriend.
In any event, you are wise to have told your husband it won't happen again if for no other reason than that it upsets him.
- Jake
skcin
07-18-2005, 01:32 PM
I wouldn't be upset if I knew the gay guy, but if I didn't there might be the sneaking suspicion that this guy is not have any loyalty to a friendship with me & might be pretending to be gay to get into bed with my girlfriend.
- Jake
That's why I didn't up in bed with Curtis. ;) Of course, if he ever actually meets Curtis, there will be no suspicion. :p Love ya Curty, ya big Mo! :xoxo:
Mad4stevie
07-18-2005, 02:48 PM
I think the best way to handle it would be to understand that his feelings are valid TO HIM, and that you will respect his discomfort and not do it again.
That being said, I don't think that it would be something that I would be upset about because there is no threat of anything physical happening. To me, I think the determining issue would be whether or not it places you in a vulnerable position (i.e. one where you would be likely to be unfaithful in some respect). Which in this case is NO.
Do I get jealous when my boyfriend goes out to the bars or even a strip club on a "Guys-Nite-Out"? NO. Provided there is no lap dances. ;)
Do I get pissed off when my boyfriend suggests meeting for dinner and drinks with a girl that he used to date while in Washington D.C. for business? YES. Especially with the knowlege imparted by my oh so upfront boyfriend that they had amazing sex. :eek:
Why create a situation where you know that you might be tempted to cheat? Its better to avoid those situations all together, IMO.
Johnny Stew
07-18-2005, 02:50 PM
I was thinking along the same lines as Cat, in that perhaps he was more embarrassed by "finding out" in front of other people (even though you probably had mentioned it, and it went in one of his ears and out the other), so he reacted the way he did more out of embarrassment than jealousy.
Then again... if I remember correctly from the pics you guys posted, Ryan's hot. Maybe your husband was insecure about the fact that you were sharing a bed with a hot guy, even if he does happen to be gay! :laugh:
ontheEdgeof17
07-18-2005, 02:54 PM
That's why I didn't up in bed with Curtis. ;) Of course, if he ever actually meets Curtis, there will be no suspicion. :p Love ya Curty, ya big Mo! :xoxo:
:lol:
It wasn't me who took 1 1/2 hours to get ready to leave. That belongs to your "other". :laugh:
...and I'm sorry to hear your hubby got mad. :o I can vouch for ya since Ry was asleep hours before we were. Like someone else said, he could just be jealous of the Mac bond you share with others. Just assure him that there are bonds between you two that only you two have....and that's more special than anything else.
HejiraNYC
07-18-2005, 04:23 PM
Well, my initial knee-jerk reaction was to think your husband was a jealous lout, but I can kinda see where he is coming from. Obviously Ryan is not into girls (no offense, Ryan :) ) but you are obviously a heterosexual female. And as much as gay guys can be classified in the "girlfriend" column, they are still guys. So if your gay friend looked like, oh, Brad Pitt, regardless of his orientation, I suspect that you would be thinking unChristian things while you were in bed with him. Just like if your husband had to sleep with a lesbian that looked like, oh, Pam Anderson.
The only way this is 100% alright is if you were a lesbian sleeping with a gay man- the repulsion is totally mutual :lol:.
darklinensuit
07-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Especially with the knowlege imparted by my oh so upfront boyfriend that they had amazing sex. :eek:
:laugh: He's playing that card, eh? Anytime guys say that we're trying to fire up your competitive juices. ;)
- Jake
gldstwmn
07-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Hubby & I got into it yesterday. When Ry, Curtis & I went to the Pittsburgh show, Ry & I slept in the same bed. For those of you that don't know, he's gay & we've been friends for about 10 years. There were only 2 beds & 3 people, so we shared.
So, I had friend over (including Ry) the other night & we were laughing about how at home I have a husband to kick me in our sleep & in Pitts I had a gay boyfirend kicking me.
The next day, hubby told me that he thought that it was wrong that I slept in the same bed with Ryan & that it had better not ever happen again. :shocked: I said I didn't think there was any difference with sharing a bed with my gay male friend or my straight female friends if there's not enough beds. I told him if it upset him that much, it wouldn't happen again. :shrug: I also told him that if he finds a lesbian friend, he can sleep in the same bed as her & then we'll be even. ;)
But I still don't get it - we slept on opposite ends of the bed back to back. It's not like we were spooning or anything. What do you guys think? Apparently if this situation comes up again, I'll be sleeping in the tub. :angel:
Well, I can't sleep in the same bed as anyone so... :laugh: Some married people have separate bedrooms. :shrug:
Did you ask him why it bothered him so much? :confused:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Well, I can't sleep in the same bed as anyone so... :laugh: Some married people have separate bedrooms. :shrug:
Did you ask him why it bothered him so much? :confused:
I had a girlfriend that never forgave me for not letting her "lie on me" at night. I love to cuddle and all that crap, but when I'm ready to go to sleep I cant have anyone touching me. She just couldnt understand that.
gldstwmn
07-18-2005, 05:29 PM
The truth is the parts are right for there to be trouble. ;)
Well, not really. :lol: :shrug:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 05:33 PM
The internet psychiatrist in me suspects that your husband envies your gay boyfriend because perhaps your gay boyfriend provides you something that he cannot.
hogwash! Gay men usually are better listeners, plus the typical femininity associated with various queens appeals to some women.
Mad4stevie
07-18-2005, 05:42 PM
:laugh: He's playing that card, eh? Anytime guys say that we're trying to fire up your competitive juices. ;)
- Jake
Yeah, he let this one fly after about 15 beers.
He can be an "attention whore" at times. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
darklinensuit
07-18-2005, 05:43 PM
Yeah, he let this one fly after about 15 beers.
He can be an "attention whore" at times. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jeez, after fifteen beers the only thing I could let fly is pee. :)
- Jake
GardenStateGirlie
07-18-2005, 06:00 PM
Do I get pissed off when my boyfriend suggests meeting for dinner and drinks with a girl that he used to date while in Washington D.C. for business? YES. Especially with the knowlege imparted by my oh so upfront boyfriend that they had amazing sex. :eek:
:eek: Why is it that men don't think before they allow certain sentences to exit their mouths?
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:03 PM
:eek: Why is it that men don't think before they allow certain sentences to exit their mouths?
I never tell current girlfriends about sex with previous girlfriends. Thats a no no! And besides, not just guys are guilty here. My last girlfriend told me her previous boyfriend had a 10 incher. Imagine how that made me feel for the duration of the relationship.
GardenStateGirlie
07-18-2005, 06:07 PM
I never tell current girlfriends about sex with previous girlfriends. Thats a no no! And besides, not just guys are guilty here. My last girlfriend told me her previous boyfriend had a 10 incher. Imagine how that made me feel for the duration of the relationship.
Seriously, there are some things, IMO, that are better left unsaid.
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:16 PM
Seriously, there are some things, IMO, that are better left unsaid.
I'm not kiddin...I thought about what she said for the first 3 or 4 months of us sleeping together, and whether or not I was even pleasuring her enough. It was a nightmare. I eventually got over it, but jeez...thats some pressure.
darklinensuit
07-18-2005, 06:17 PM
I'm not kiddin...I thought about what she said for the first 3 or 4 months of us sleeping together, and whether or not I was even pleasuring her enough. It was a nightmare. I eventually got over it, but jeez...thats some pressure.
Now I feel guilty. I had told her not to tell. :distress:
- Jake
GardenStateGirlie
07-18-2005, 06:20 PM
Now I feel guilty. I had told her not to tell. :distress:
- Jake
Rumor has it, she was cheating on you so apparently, you're not Mr. Big :sorry:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:20 PM
Now I feel guilty. I had told her not to tell. :distress:
- Jake
LOL! Nice.
Johnny Stew
07-18-2005, 06:22 PM
My last girlfriend told me her previous boyfriend had a 10 incher.Those are fun for show and tell, but that's about it! :laugh:
BTFLCHLD
07-18-2005, 06:23 PM
oh i dont think id want my mate laying down with someone else no matter the circumstance
and i dont think id lay down with anyone else either...
if they are that close they are prolly "killin kittys" (lildemon) at some point :laugh:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:25 PM
oh i dont think id want my mate laying down with someone else no matter the circumstance
and i dont think id lay down with anyone else either...
if they are that close they are prolly "killin kittys" (lildemon) at some point :laugh:
ROFL! That kitty thing has me cracking up. I need to change my ID to KillinKitties
BTFLCHLD
07-18-2005, 06:27 PM
ROFL! That kitty thing has me cracking up. I need to change my ID to KillinKitties you should as you are such the "master" at it :]
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:28 PM
you should as you are such the "master" at it :]
Maybe I was 5 yrs ago, today I'm lucky if I have time for that nonsense. ha!
amber
07-18-2005, 06:28 PM
oh i dont think id want my mate laying down with someone else no matter the circumstance
and i dont think id lay down with anyone else either...
if they are that close they are prolly "killin kittys" (lildemon) at some point :laugh:
Sig. making me die. :xoxo:
Johnny Stew
07-18-2005, 06:36 PM
Maybe I was 5 yrs ago, today I'm lucky if I have time for that nonsense. ha!"Nonsense"?!?
Some of us have turned it into an artform!!! :laugh:
mylittledemon
07-18-2005, 06:41 PM
"Nonsense"?!?
Some of us have turned it into an artform!!! :laugh:
HAHA! hilarious! Uh yeah lets just say I dont have too many things to stir me up mentally.
gldstwmn
07-18-2005, 08:28 PM
I never tell current girlfriends about sex with previous girlfriends. Thats a no no! And besides, not just guys are guilty here. My last girlfriend told me her previous boyfriend had a 10 incher. Imagine how that made me feel for the duration of the relationship.
Oh, now that's rude. I had one boyfriend who felt the need to "confess" to me about damn near every woman he ever dated. Bad form. Suggested therapy. :shrug: Then I found a picture of one of the exes who just happened to be a stripper. It was obvious from the photo. :shocked: Needless to say, it didn't end well.
Mad4stevie
07-18-2005, 08:34 PM
I never tell current girlfriends about sex with previous girlfriends. Thats a no no! And besides, not just guys are guilty here. My last girlfriend told me her previous boyfriend had a 10 incher. Imagine how that made me feel for the duration of the relationship.
The thing these people don't understand is boundaries. Now, I am all for sharing and being emotionally intimate, but there are just some things that should not be discussed between intimate partners.
But then again, I have never heard a guy NOT think he could be bigger. :shrug: No matter what I say, it doesn't seem to matter and I don't get that. :shrug:
seeker007nmss
07-18-2005, 08:49 PM
I think you should complete the Mac "brainwashing" system, so that way he will want to go with you to the concerts and then you can just sleep together. And please don't lump all guys into the same category. A "guy" thing isn't always true for everyone. Such a "girl" thing to think so.... :D
skcin
07-19-2005, 08:45 AM
I think you should complete the Mac "brainwashing" system, so that way he will want to go with you to the concerts and then you can just sleep together.
I've tried the brainwashing. Apparently he's resistant. :mad:
And I did ask him why it bothered him so much, to whoever asked - he said "I don't know, I just think it's wrong."
Like I said, it's over now, he never freaked out about it or anything. I just have to resign myself to the fact that I can never sleep with a gay man again. :distress:
:laugh:
BTFLCHLD
07-19-2005, 08:53 AM
:mad: I just have to resign myself to the fact that I can never sleep with a gay man again. :distress: :laugh: even tho he's adorable :nod:
eclipse
07-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Come on Paula... :)
On your list of things you would like to/ want to do in life.....
Was sleeping with a guy man on the list?? :lol: :lol:
I doubt it...It's a small sacrifice to keep your husband happy.
and besides...wasn't he wearing that disgusting hoodie thing? :laugh: :laugh:
Just kidding Curtis
<smiles>
eclipse
bikerchic
07-19-2005, 09:40 AM
You tell Mark to smarten up, or I'll have to come over there and spank him :nod: :wavey:
skcin
07-19-2005, 09:47 AM
Come on Paula... :)
On your list of things you would like to/ want to do in life.....
Was sleeping with a guy man on the list?? :lol: :lol:
I doubt it...It's a small sacrifice to keep your husband happy.
and besides...wasn't he wearing that disgusting hoodie thing? :laugh: :laugh:
Just kidding Curtis
<smiles>
eclipse
Exactly - I was kidding. :) It's not like I've aspired all my life to sleep with a gay boy. I will survive.
The Tower
07-19-2005, 10:07 AM
Those are fun for show and tell, but that's about it! :laugh:
Ummm.......
I'm not going to be disingenuous and say that "size doesn't matter". That phrase was invented to soothe the bruised egos of men who thought they didn't measure up. Most of the time, bigger is better, however, that doesn't mean that average is bad.
gldstwmn
07-19-2005, 10:30 AM
And I did ask him why it bothered him so much, to whoever asked - he said "I don't know, I just think it's wrong."
That was me. I think I'd just chalk it up to 15 beers worth of wisdom. :lol:
GarboSpeaks!
07-19-2005, 03:49 PM
Not only would I be upset, that hubby got in a twist about it, but something I had been wanting to ask on a board was this.
For you ladies, ever been talking w/ someone (in particular, a male someone) tellin' them about all your Stevie travels, and they say to you, "Man, I can't believe your husband lets you go." WTF?????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Just because some males are stupid, and think the key to a good relationship is to keep the opposite sex barefoot and pregnant, does NOT mean that you need a man's permission to go to Stevie shows. Further more, I find it funny, cause men and women alike that aren't into all this, don't get the fact that, we (I) go to these shows to do just that. GO TO SHOWS! If I were talking about my dive bar exploits, yea, maybe I'd see the "hubby lets you go?" But Stevie or FM concerts? Puh-lease!
Some men, bless their hearts, just don't get things. And in the context of "sleeping w/ a gay man." You are both just there doing what you need to do to have gone or been to a Stevie show. Less moeny on hotel or hotel beds means more pink hoodies! :thumbsup:
Give him 20 more years of male evolution, and he'll get over it. lol. :xoxo:
Johnny Stew
07-19-2005, 03:58 PM
Ummm.......
I'm not going to be disingenuous and say that "size doesn't matter". That phrase was invented to soothe the bruised egos of men who thought they didn't measure up. Most of the time, bigger is better, however, that doesn't mean that average is bad.I don't think it's at all disingenuous to say "size doesn't matter." For many men and women, it really doesn't.
Not that it's anyone's business, but my second boyfriend was "below average" and his size wasn't even the slightest detraction from a very fun and fulfilling sex life with him.
Taking into consideration the proportions of various parts of the inner anatomy, one's partner doesn't have to be exceedingly big to be satisfying.
So I still think certain sizes are more fun for Show & Tell.
The Tower
07-19-2005, 06:42 PM
I don't think it's at all disingenuous to say "size doesn't matter." For many men and women, it really doesn't.
Not that it's anyone's business, but my second boyfriend was "below average" and his size wasn't even the slightest detraction from a very fun and fulfilling sex life with him.
Taking into consideration the proportions of various parts of the inner anatomy, one's partner doesn't have to be exceedingly big to be satisfying.
So I still think certain sizes are more fun for Show & Tell.
Meh.
Smaller will usually leave something to be desired. And, yeah, that desire can be fulfilled by other things- like skill, for instance- or deep love/lust. Average is fine. However, "bigger" always adds a little sumpin' sumpin' to the mix.
Mad4stevie
07-19-2005, 06:50 PM
However, "bigger" always adds a little sumpin' sumpin' to the mix.
You know, size can matter because, IMO, there is such a thing as "too big". If it feels uncomfortable and hurts, its no good for me. :shrug:
ontheEdgeof17
07-19-2005, 07:08 PM
Not that it's anyone's business, but my second boyfriend was "below average" and his size wasn't even the slightest detraction from a very fun and fulfilling sex life with him.
Now Now....
Jason's not here to defend himself.
The Tower
07-19-2005, 07:15 PM
You know, size can matter because, IMO, there is such a thing as "too big". If it feels uncomfortable and hurts, its no good for me. :shrug:
Well, I only have perspective from man-on-man action. So, how size relates to chicks is completely out of my expertise... :laugh:
amber
07-19-2005, 07:21 PM
Well, I only have perspective from man-on-man action. So, how size relates to chicks is completely out of my expertise... :laugh:
well....I must say, I basically agree with this...
Meh.
Smaller will usually leave something to be desired. And, yeah, that desire can be fulfilled by other things- like skill, for instance- or deep love/lust. Average is fine. However, "bigger" always adds a little sumpin' sumpin' to the mix.
Luckily, anyone I've had who's uh...a little smaller...tended to be wildly compensatory in other various ways. Except for that one guy. So, it usually works out ok.
sparky
07-19-2005, 07:53 PM
However, "bigger" always adds a little sumpin' sumpin' to the mix.
Sumpin'. Yeah. Sumpin'.
The Tower
07-19-2005, 09:07 PM
Luckily, anyone I've had who's uh...a little smaller...tended to be wildly compensatory in other various ways.
Exactly. All that "it's okay that you have a four and 1/2 inch dick" routine is hilarious. The truth is- "well, it's kinda small but you give really good head so I'll cut you some slack" ;)
Sumpin'. Yeah. Sumpin'.
:thumbsup: :xoxo:
amber
07-19-2005, 09:10 PM
Exactly. All that "it's okay that you have a four and 1/2 inch dick" routine is hilarious. The truth is- "well, it's kinda small but you give really good head so I'll cut you some slack" ;)
:thumbsup: :xoxo:
Hmmm, guess you read my mind on that one. :laugh: Though not totally. What about skinny long guy? I deal with that on a once monthly basis.... :D :lol:
Sesly, though, there are other things besides head....But still.... STILL! I say...
strandinthewind
07-19-2005, 09:13 PM
Now Now....
Jason's not here to defend himself.
Hey - I masterbate with tweezers and am proud to admit it - now where is that penis pump :eek: :wavey:
amber
07-19-2005, 09:14 PM
Hey - I masterbate with tweezers and am proud to admit it - now where is that penis pump :eek: :wavey:
yeah. No one really believes a guy who is six foot million when he says that. :shrug:
Just saying.... :D
strandinthewind
07-19-2005, 09:16 PM
yeah. No one really believes a guy who is six foot million when he says that. :shrug:
Just saying.... :D
Well, most things seem smaller as I have big hands :cool:
amber
07-19-2005, 09:18 PM
Well, most things seem smaller as I have big hands :cool:
point 2:
No one who is really small says so out loud. :laugh:
Point 3 - I have noticed a distinct hand correlation. :D
Johnny Stew
07-19-2005, 09:50 PM
Now Now....
Jason's not here to defend himself.:laugh:
Ironically enough, his name was Jason... but he wasn't our Strandie. :xoxo:
strandinthewind
07-19-2005, 09:51 PM
:laugh:
Ironically enough, his name was Jason... but he wasn't our Strandie. :xoxo:
I should be so honored :wavey:
Johnny Stew
07-19-2005, 09:53 PM
You know, size can matter because, IMO, there is such a thing as "too big". If it feels uncomfortable and hurts, its no good for me. :shrug:It can hurt or be uncomfortable for man-to-man sex, too.
Johnny Stew
07-19-2005, 09:54 PM
What about skinny long guy?Wider IS better... but length isn't as important, IMO.
amber
07-19-2005, 09:57 PM
Wider IS better... but length isn't as important, IMO.
yeah, exactly. Blergh. Although, I just found out, (insert into TMI files) that even a certain length enables me not to have to be so limber. :shrug: *hey, I said insert into TMI! I warned you!*
The Tower
07-19-2005, 10:07 PM
It can hurt or be uncomfortable for man-to-man sex, too.
Wider IS better... but length isn't as important, IMO.
I thought you were saving yourself for the right man???
Any skilled bottom knows what they can take and not take.
Since Amber has moved this thread into the TMI territory.....
The few times in my life that I have bottomed, I have found that wider is not as cool as longer. The more shaft to stimulate the prostate the better. Wider just makes it harder to accommodate.
amber
07-19-2005, 10:10 PM
I thought you were saving yourself for the right man???
Any skilled bottom knows what they can take and not take.
Since Amber has moved this thread into the TMI territory.....
The few times in my life that I have bottomed, I have found that wider is not as cool as longer. The more shaft to stimulate the prostate the better. Wider just makes it harder to accommodate.
Yes, indeed. But being a girl, I was mainly not talking about that. But like I said, there is skinny long guy, who has his place.... :D And don't blame me for your TMI!!! Biat! *ch*
*don't blame it on me, blame it on my wild **** * :lol:
Johnny Stew
07-19-2005, 10:28 PM
I thought you were saving yourself for the right man???Who says I haven't found him? ;)
Since Amber has moved this thread into the TMI territory.....
The few times in my life that I have bottomed, I have found that wider is not as cool as longer. The more shaft to stimulate the prostate the better. Wider just makes it harder to accommodate.The prostate isn't all that deep, so it really shouldn't require an extremely long penis to reach and stimulate it. That's all I'm saying.
Wider is great for a slightly "fuller" feeling.
sparky
07-20-2005, 12:23 AM
This thread takes the graphic and TMI cake and hurtles the thing into a wall. Gotta love it.
Not that I am surprised, considering some of the participants.
GardenStateGirlie
07-20-2005, 12:45 AM
This thread takes the graphic and TMI cake and hurtles the thing into a wall.
Then rapes it a la American Pie and has it for breakfast the following morning. I can't help but to laugh :laugh:
tynan88
07-20-2005, 01:38 AM
I just have to point out to be fair, on the original topic of this thread that females can be extremely jealous types too! It certainly isn't a "male thing"!
mylittledemon
07-20-2005, 06:15 AM
This thread takes the graphic and TMI cake and hurtles the thing into a wall. Gotta love it.
Not that I am surprised, considering some of the participants.
ROFL! Hilarious. I gotta hoot outta' readin this stuff.
skcin
07-20-2005, 08:26 AM
I came back to read this thread this morning, figuring Strand was back & had put in his 2 cents about my situation. :shrug:
Well, this was certainly quite a wakeup call. :eek:
The Tower
07-20-2005, 10:30 AM
Who says I haven't found him? ;)
Well, congratulations on taking the plunge, Brian! Welcome to the club.
The prostate isn't all that deep, so it really shouldn't require an extremely long penis to reach and stimulate it. That's all I'm saying.
It's not always enough just to reach it.
Wider is great for a slightly "fuller" feeling.
To-mA-toe, to-mah-toe. Some people like carrots, others like beer cans.
This thread takes the graphic and TMI cake and hurtles the thing into a wall. Gotta love it.
Not that I am surprised, considering some of the participants.
:p :p :p :wavey:
Then rapes it a la American Pie and has it for breakfast the following morning.
Ewwww.... :laugh: :laugh:
DrummerDeanna
07-20-2005, 10:36 AM
I came back to read this thread this morning, figuring Strand was back & had put in his 2 cents about my situation. :shrug:
Well, this was certainly quite a wakeup call. :eek:
Iknow! I thought -oh lots more people weighed in on Paula's situation....I should know better :laugh:
BTFLCHLD
07-20-2005, 10:39 AM
im about to lose my cheerios :rolleyes:
MMM sucks as that H U G E banana inserted was fabulous :wavey:
SuzeQuze
07-20-2005, 11:18 AM
This thread is not in the gutter, it has become the gutter. :laugh: I have to bite my tongue here about the size thing, except to say, teeny isn't good for anyone, and if you can't get a full erection, same. :cool: Why couldn't i just stay out of this? :lol: Seriously, if you can't get a full one get yourself checked out because your girlfriend will be too embarrassed to tell you. :o
The Tower
07-20-2005, 11:21 AM
I have to bite my tongue here about the size thing...
I love how you bit your tongue on this topic. :p :laugh:
DrummerDeanna
07-20-2005, 11:25 AM
This thread is not in the gutter, it has become the gutter. :laugh: I have to bite my tongue here about the size thing, except to say, teeny isn't good for anyone, and if you can't get a full erection, same. :cool: Why couldn't i just stay out of this? :lol: Seriously, if you can't get a full one get yourself checked out because your girlfriend will be too embarrassed to tell you. :o
*ahem* I concur:o
But I also agree with Heather, too big isn't good either....:D
SuzeQuze
07-20-2005, 11:31 AM
I love how you bit your tongue on this topic. :p :laugh:
:laugh: could.not.help.it.big.mouth
Woops.
Edit: And on edit, it was years of frustration that drove me to it. Okay I swear I am done now! :lol:
The Tower
07-20-2005, 12:06 PM
*ahem* I concur:o
But I also agree with Heather, too big isn't good either....:D
Another "bystander" who jumps into the fray.... :p :p :laugh:
The Tower
07-20-2005, 12:07 PM
Okay I swear I am done now! :lol:
Um-hmmmm.... yeah, right. You can't resist and you know it.
sparky
07-20-2005, 01:31 PM
It stuns me that no one has said the following : Disregarding one's role and all size considerations it is impossible to overstate the importance of angle and technique. :blob1:
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 01:33 PM
It stuns me that no one has said the following : Disregarding one's role and all size considerations it is impossible to overstate the importance of angle and technique. :blob1:
well, then there is rhythm, which goes hand in hand with technique :cool:
skcin
07-20-2005, 01:54 PM
well, then there is rhythm, which goes hand in hand with technique :cool:
I swear I just read that as "rhythm with the hand technique".
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 01:57 PM
I swear I just read that as "rhythm with the hand technique".
Well, there is that too - and that applies solo or non solo - or with Han Solo if that works :cool:
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 03:03 PM
It's not always enough just to reach it.That's absolutely right. But look at it this way... a doctor can easily examine (and stimulate, in the case of a blockage) a man's prostate by using his middle finger. The average middle finger has to be about, what, 4-4.5 inches long?
So, a penis that's slightly below average should, physically, still be able to "do the job." :shrug:
To-mA-toe, to-mah-toe. Some people like carrots, others like beer cans.:laugh:
I love the nickname "Beer Can." :angel:
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 03:04 PM
It stuns me that no one has said the following : Disregarding one's role and all size considerations it is impossible to overstate the importance of angle and technique. :blob1:That, right there, is the absolutely most important aspect of all.
Size is just size... angle & technique is EVERYTHING. :nod:
amber
07-20-2005, 03:08 PM
That, right there, is the absolutely most important aspect of all.
Size is just size... angle & technique is EVERYTHING. :nod:
Yeah, I just thought that was implicit in the discussion. :shrug:
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 03:50 PM
I came back to read this thread this morning, figuring Strand was back & had put in his 2 cents about my situation. :shrug:
Well, this was certainly quite a wakeup call. :eek:I apologize for my part in hijacking your thread, Paula. :o :distress:
SuzeQuze
07-20-2005, 03:53 PM
Yeah, I just thought that was implicit in the discussion. :shrug:
I did too. That goes in Der magazine. ;)
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 03:59 PM
That's absolutely right. But look at it this way... a doctor can easily examine (and stimulate, in the case of a blockage) a man's prostate by using his middle finger. The average middle finger has to be about, what, 4-4.5 inches long? . . .
True, but your doctor told you repeatedly that there was no need to back up :cool: :woohoo:
WHO LOVES YA BABY :] :] :] :]
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 04:03 PM
True, but your doctor told you repeatedly that there was no need to back up :cool: :woohoo:I just can't figure out why my dentist performs the prostate exam. Something about that doesn't seem kosher. :shrug:
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 04:06 PM
I just can't figure out why my dentist performs the prostate exam. Something about that doesn't seem kosher. :shrug:
Ba Doom Boom :cool: :wavey:
Maybe you should have him also check your gag reflex, which I feel confident you have not seen in years ;) :p :p :p
SuzeQuze
07-20-2005, 04:06 PM
I just can't figure out why my dentist performs the prostate exam. Something about that doesn't seem kosher. :shrug:
:laugh: Well, Joey Tribiani's tailor does his. :eek: :lol:
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 04:07 PM
Maybe you should have him also check your gag reflex, which I feel confident you have not seen in years ;) :p :p :pGag reflex? What's a gag reflex?
I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about.
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 04:08 PM
:laugh: Well, Joey Tribiani's tailor does his. :eek: :lol::laugh:
Who wouldn't wanna cop a feel of Matt LeBlanc?! Ooh, baby!
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 04:09 PM
Gag reflex? What's a gag reflex?
I'm sure I have no idea what you're talking about.
LOL - well, this thread has descended further into the bowels of . . . I mean . . . errrrrrr . . . :) :)
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 04:10 PM
:laugh: Well, Joey Tribiani's tailor does his. :eek: :lol:
Poor Joey - he is so stupid, he probably though it was flatulence :laugh:
SuzeQuze
07-20-2005, 04:12 PM
:laugh:
Who wouldn't wanna cop a feel of Matt LeBlanc?! Ooh, baby!
How's he doin'? :lol:
The Tower
07-20-2005, 04:53 PM
Who wouldn't wanna cop a feel of Matt LeBlanc?! Ooh, baby!
Blech. He was cute about 20 years ago. Now he's pushing 50, has got a flabby gut and wears a "B" cup.
strandinthewind
07-20-2005, 04:55 PM
Blech. He was cute about 20 years ago. Now he's pushing 50, has got a flabby gut and wears a "B" cup.
Don't talk about me like I'm not in the room :mad:
The Tower
07-20-2005, 05:11 PM
Don't talk about me like I'm not in the room :mad:
What makes you think I was referring to you? Did I say pushing 60 and wears a "C" cup??? I don't think so....
sparky
07-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Blech. He was cute about 20 years ago. Now he's pushing 50, has got a flabby gut and wears a "B" cup.
EEEK. What a visual. His ass is kinda flabby too. Sparky don't play that.
The Tower
07-20-2005, 05:18 PM
EEEK. What a visual. His ass is kinda flabby too. Sparky don't play that.
Yeah, there were tabloid pictures of him recently and he was smoking cigarettes poolside with his droopy pecs and gut crease. Eye candy he ain't.
Johnny Stew
07-20-2005, 05:21 PM
Blech. He was cute about 20 years ago. Now he's pushing 50, has got a flabby gut and wears a "B" cup.I prefer him now, at nearly 40 (not 50), to when he was only in his very early 20s.
He has a beefy, "average guy" kinda body, and I dig that. Plus, he's still handsome as all hell. :nod:
skcin
07-20-2005, 07:18 PM
I apologize for my part in hijacking your thread, Paula. :o :distress:
I don't mind. This is way more fun. :D
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