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ReFleetwoodMac

07-14-2005, 02:22 PM

What's up with him and things turning to stone on Out of the Cradle? Did he find he a rock he thought pretty, or is it actually symbolic?

lagringader&r

07-14-2005, 04:03 PM

What's up with him and things turning to stone on Out of the Cradle? Did he find he a rock he thought pretty, or is it actually symbolic?

Dude, I don't even know OOTC but it's all representative. Do I have to explain it here in front of everyone? See, the stone represents one of two things. Remember the Bible story of the guy turning to stone if he looked back? Bingo. He left FM to begin his rebirth (out of the cradle) and if he looked back at FM and all the sh*t associated with them, he would turn to stone. It also could represent (no, it does) him actually turning to stone, like a bitter man. Or, he found a pretty rock.

chiliD

07-14-2005, 04:06 PM

Remember the Bible story of the guy turning to stone if he looked back?

Wasn't that Lot's wife when she looked back at Gommorrah and turned into a pillar of SALT?

lagringader&r

07-14-2005, 04:08 PM

Wasn't that Lot's wife when she looked back at Gommorrah and turned into a pillar of SALT?

Oops. Right. Ok, we'll go with option B or he found a pretty rock.

chiliD

07-14-2005, 04:09 PM

Considering the number of Rolling Stones covers he recorded during the sessions for Gift of Screws maybe THAT's what he meant by "turning to stone(s)" :shrug: :shrug:

lagringader&r

07-14-2005, 04:43 PM

Considering the number of Rolling Stones covers he recorded during the sessions for Gift of Screws maybe THAT's what he meant by "turning to stone(s)" :shrug: :shrug:

Er..or that.

sodascouts

07-14-2005, 06:17 PM

Considering the number of Rolling Stones covers he recorded during the sessions for Gift of Screws maybe THAT's what he meant by "turning to stone(s)" :shrug: :shrug:

Surely you jest.

Is this your interpretation? - "when the candles burn down, worlds turn to stone" = "When the candle burned down and I still had not come up with any ideas for new songs, I turned to recording Stones covers." lol!

lagringader&r

07-14-2005, 06:20 PM

Surely you jest.

Is this your interpretation? - "when the candles burn down, worlds turn to stone" = "When the candle burned down and I still had not come up with any ideas for new songs, I turned to recording Stones covers." lol!

Or he found a pretty rock.

sodascouts

07-14-2005, 06:25 PM

chiliD

07-14-2005, 06:26 PM

Surely you jest.

Yes, I do...and stop calling me Shirley.

Is this your interpretation? - "when the candles burn down, worlds turn to stone" = "When the candle burned down and I still had not come up with any ideas for new songs, I turned to recording Stones covers." lol!

Yes, but not exactly.

"when the candles burn down" = "At the end of the day"

"worlds turn to stone" = "I've got writers block...hey, ya know, I haven't listened to Between The Buttons in a while."

:lol:

wondergirl9847

07-14-2005, 06:29 PM

And WHO loves candles? Hmmmm......;)

LOL Kidding.

WelshWitchPMD

07-14-2005, 06:54 PM

:shrug: Or maybe he was just stone(d)

lagringader&r

07-14-2005, 07:05 PM

Obviously he's referring to the abundance of cooling and solidifying magma and lava, compacting sediment deposits, and metamorphic processes.

I'm sticking with the pretty rock theory but ok. If you want to get all technical about it. Sheesh. Chista?

trackaghost

07-14-2005, 07:07 PM

:shrug: Or maybe he was just stone(d)

More than likely, yes :lol:

WelshWitchPMD

07-14-2005, 07:09 PM

More than likely, yes :lol:

:lol: Could be. I love your avatar by the way!!! :nod:

trackaghost

07-14-2005, 07:09 PM

Yes, I do...and stop calling me Shirley.

Yes, but not exactly.

"when the candles burn down" = "At the end of the day"

"worlds turn to stone" = "I've got writers block...hey, ya know, I haven't listened to Between The Buttons in a while."

:lol:

:lol: Wow, how did I miss this thread?
Btw, Between The Buttons is a great album, I must dig that out!

trackaghost

07-14-2005, 07:11 PM

:lol: Could be. I love your avatar by the way!!! :nod:

Thanks! It's from the Mirage MTV documentary DVD. Have you seen it?
It's hilarious.

WelshWitchPMD

07-14-2005, 07:15 PM

Thanks! It's from the Mirage MTV documentary DVD. Have you seen it?
It's hilarious.

I saw it a long, long, long time ago but I should be getting it on DVD very soon. ;) He looks like a bank robber or something in that photo. :lol: "Stick 'em up!"

trackaghost

07-14-2005, 07:20 PM

I saw it a long, long, long time ago but I should be getting it on DVD very soon. ;) He looks like a bank robber or something in that photo. :lol: "Stick 'em up!"

Oh let me know when you get it so we can discuss!
The band minus Stevie are doing promos for some MTV competitions - it's great. I just loved Lindsey's insistence on wearing his hoodie (maybe it was new or something!)

David

07-14-2005, 09:39 PM

Oh let me know when you get it so we can discuss!
The band minus Stevie are doing promos for some MTV competitions - it's great. I just loved Lindsey's insistence on wearing his hoodie (maybe it was new or something!)Hey, that would make a great immunity question for my Survivor!!

"Name the couple who won the Night With Fleetwood Mac competition on MTV in 1982"

ReFleetwoodMac

07-14-2005, 09:54 PM

lagringader&r

07-15-2005, 01:14 AM

People, people. Let's remember the reason we were all brought to this beautiful place. The stone debate. Shall I throw out the "Fly away home or you'll turn to stone" line to get you started? Shall shall shall.

Oops, wrong thread. You never ever want to joke around about serious business like SURVIVOR. I learned my lesson. They sure showed me.

About the stone thing, I answered you. He found a pretty rock and went "ooooooh, pretttty". Then, he got the inspiration and at the same time, was inspired to become taller and make his face longer but only to get chicks and the cool Camaro that he later lost due to returning to his normal size.

ReFleetwoodMac

07-15-2005, 01:23 AM

Oops, wrong thread. You never ever want to joke around about serious business like SURVIVOR. I learned my lesson. They sure showed me.

About the stone thing, I answered you. He found a pretty rock and went "ooooooh, pretttty". Then, he got the inspiration and at the same time, was inspired to become taller and make his face longer but only to get chicks and the cool Camaro that he later lost due to returning to his normal size.
That's Grandmaster BoBo to you.

So we understand the stone thing, BUT, we must now turn our attention to the height. In way was he inspired to alter his appearance? Was it the pretty rock? Could he have simply look at an oval shaped rock and thought his face would look even more beautiful if only he could attain the spledor that is the oval in question? But it would have had to have been a tall, oval shaped rock. Two birds with one stone. Ba dum CH.

Janet

07-15-2005, 01:29 AM

:shrug: Or maybe he was just stone(d)

I like that idea personally LOL, thanks for the giggle

lagringader&r

07-15-2005, 01:32 AM

That's Grandmaster BoBo to you.

So we understand the stone thing, BUT, we must now turn our attention to the height. In way was he inspired to alter his appearance? Was it the pretty rock? Could he have simply look at an oval shaped rock and thought his face would look even more beautiful if only he could attain the spledor that is the oval in question? But it would have had to have been a tall, oval shaped rock. Two birds with one stone. Ba dum CH.

Grandmaster BoBo,
I'm not really sure the pretty rock inspired the increase in height and shape of face. I think it's possible he was in need of a different look. He'd spent all those years in FM and wanted a change. So, he thought, hmm. I could grow my beard back. No. I could cut my hair a different way. No. I could..I could. And then it hit him like a sledgehammer to a pesky little roach! I could get taller! I could make my face longer! I could get chicks! I could get a Camaro! Bam. The OOTC look was born.

desertangel

07-15-2005, 02:41 AM

OR..... MAYBE..... He lifted the phrase from a very popular 1977 release by Electric Light Orchestra (fondly known as "ELO")... Turn to Stone. Note the phrase is repeated like 30 times.

Turn To Stone
The city streets are empty now THE LIGHTS DON'T SHINE NO MORE
and so the songs are way down low TURNING TURNING TURNING
A sound that flows into my mind THE ECHOES OF THE DAYLIGHT
of everything that is alive IN MY BLUE WORLD

I turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.
Turn to stone when you comin' home, I can't go on.

The dying embers of the night A FIRE THAT SLOWLY FADES TILL DAWN
still glow upon the wall so bright BURNING BURNING BURNING
The tired streets that hide away FROM HERE TO EVERYWHERE THEY GO
roll past my door into the day IN MY BLUE WORLD

I turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.
Turn to stone when you comin' home, I can't go on.
Turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.

Yes, I'm turnin' to stone 'cos you ain't comin' home.
Why you ain't comin' home if I'm turnin' to stone?
You've been gone for so long and I can't carry on,
yes, I'm turnin', I'm turnin', I'm turnin' to stone.

The dancing shadows on the wall THE TWO-STEP IN THE HALL
are all I see since you've been gone TURNING TURNING TURNING
Through all I sit here and I wait I TURN TO STONE I TURN TO STONE
You will return again some day TO MY BLUE WORLD

I turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.
Turn to stone when you comin' home, I can't go on.
Turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.

I turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.
Turn to stone when you comin' home, I can't go on.
Turn to stone when you are gone, I turn to stone.

Laura
(still stuck in the 70s)

trackaghost

07-15-2005, 05:29 AM

Oops, wrong thread. You never ever want to joke around about serious business like SURVIVOR. I learned my lesson. They sure showed me.

Your joke wasn't funny. :shrug: Now, maybe if it had been funny...

lagringader&r

07-15-2005, 05:37 AM

Your joke wasn't funny. :shrug: Now, maybe if it had been funny...

You're really not being nice at all. I don't care if you thought it was funny. I wasn't trying to impress you so please stop attacking me. You did it enough in the other thread. Please stop.

trackaghost

07-15-2005, 05:42 AM

You're really not being nice at all. I don't care if you thought it was funny. I wasn't trying to impress you so please stop attacking me. You did it enough in the other thread. Please stop.

I didn't really feel like I was attacking you to tell the truth, so I'm sorry about that, but you bought the subject up again in another thread. I was just saying what I think about it.
But anyway, if you are willing to let it go, I will too.

Miss Vicky

07-15-2005, 09:31 AM

Geez guys! There's no mystery to Lindsey's use of a very cliched term. I'm sure you've all heard the phrase "turned to stone" with its automatic and embedded implications - being cold, hard, unfeeling, unchanging, lifeless, what have you. It's a common trope that should astonish no one.

Agreed.

What is with these crazy threads on this board lately?
First "Lindsey got taller and longer of face for OOTC" and now questioning his use of the word "stone." WTF?

sodascouts

07-15-2005, 11:14 AM

Oops, wrong thread. You never ever want to joke around about serious business like SURVIVOR. I learned my lesson. They sure showed me.

Can we leave the argument crap in Chit Chat?

lagringader&r

07-15-2005, 04:55 PM

The truth hurts.

Sure does. I'm just glad we're finally tackling the big issues. I think when Lindsey got taller/face got longer, it freaked everybody out to the point that they were afraid to talk about it. No one wanted to say anything. I did, but I was cowardly. When he returned to normal size, it freaked everyone out even more. Me? I was just in awe.

ReFleetwoodMac

07-15-2005, 05:03 PM

Sure does. I'm just glad we're finally tackling the big issues. I think when Lindsey got taller/face got longer, it freaked everybody out to the point that they were afraid to talk about it. No one wanted to say anything. I did, but I was cowardly. When he returned to normal size, it freaked everyone out even more. Me? I was just in awe.
I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I always figured that when he returned to normal size, the freaked out people would have been relieved. All those years of looking at that ovally, tall man, and then he finally returns to his typical adult white male glory! He kept them in suspense for too long. How dare he. Let's fry him lightly in a fat, shallow open pan.

lagringader&r

07-15-2005, 05:20 PM

I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I always figured that when he returned to normal size, the freaked out people would have been relieved. All those years of looking at that ovally, tall man, and then he finally returns to his typical adult white male glory! He kept them in suspense for too long. How dare he. Let's fry him lightly in a fat, shallow open pan.

I think people fall back on the excuse that he's shrunk as he's gotten older. That old "people shrink" theory. BUT, do they elongate? That was the freakiest part for most people and it was just too difficult to talk about. I think that was part of the suspense for him. He knew no one would talk about it. They would secretly wonder, but would never come out and say anything. His strategy was interesting to say the least.