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Hawkeye
07-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Would you play Ledgie Survivor. If there are at least 12 Yes's the I think it should be done.

AliceLover
07-13-2005, 10:04 PM
hmm this should be interesting...

DrummerDeanna
07-13-2005, 10:08 PM
And I'd have to say no. Lol - That would be a mess - and as much as I shouldn't care - I'd be a bit hurt if I got voted off...:o

Hawkeye
07-13-2005, 10:11 PM
Like I said in the Lindsey forum, I would be more hurt if Lindsey and Stevie left the Fleetwood Mac survivor early in the game..... heh they did!!!!!!! Then if I were to get voted out myself.

GardenStateGirlie
07-13-2005, 10:15 PM
And I'd have to say no. Lol - That would be a mess - and as much as I shouldn't care - I'd be a bit hurt if I got voted off...:o

I wouldn't be hurt -- just as long as Jake goes before me :angel:

DownOnRodeo
07-13-2005, 10:22 PM
I wouldn't be hurt -- just as long as Jake goes before me :angel:
I don't really enjoy playing 'choose between your favourite songs' let alone 'choose between your favourite people'. :shrug: Could be fun though.

GardenStateGirlie
07-13-2005, 10:26 PM
I don't really enjoy playing 'choose between your favourite songs' let alone 'choose between your favourite people'. :shrug: Could be fun though.

Either do I -- especially in light of recent happenings. I said no :nod:

StevieNicksEO17
07-13-2005, 10:33 PM
And I'd have to say no. Lol - That would be a mess - and as much as I shouldn't care - I'd be a bit hurt if I got voted off...:o

I agree, completely. Some people might not take getting voted off too well...

ForgottenChimp
07-13-2005, 10:35 PM
I think it would be asking for trouble.

GypsySorcerer
07-13-2005, 10:46 PM
No. I don't think it's a good idea.

David
07-13-2005, 10:49 PM
I don't know. I have a feeling that dozens of us would wind up feeling very hurt or bummed out. The question is, Are people up to that?

Johnny Stew
07-13-2005, 10:53 PM
I think it would be asking for trouble.I couldn't agree more.

We already have people who regretably feel like outsiders... the last thing we need is a "game" that would seem to enforce the idea of cliques and popularity contests (even if the contestants are willing parties).

xdreamsunwindx
07-13-2005, 11:02 PM
Personal Attacks'D!

Moony
07-13-2005, 11:05 PM
Personal Attacks'D!
I agree.

Plus, I'd be voted off in a second :woohoo:

sodascouts
07-13-2005, 11:06 PM
No way. Why pit people against each other? The idea of hierarchy this promotes - 'So and so is better than so-and-so' is very immature. I don't understand why anyone would want to volunteer for such a thing - maybe seeking validation or trying to prove something.... I don't know. I do know, however, that it would royally SUCK to be one of the losers. And I wouldn't be too entertained by the sycophants and kiss-butts coming out to "support" their buds either. Lame, lame, lame.

Sorry Hawkeye - not trying to attack you - just can't you see this is a bad idea, if you think about it?

Hawkeye
07-13-2005, 11:08 PM
I couldn't agree more.

We already have people who regretably feel like outsiders... the last thing we need is a "game" that would seem to enforce the idea of cliques and popularity contests (even if the contestants are willing parties).

The thing is, the outsiders who played would most likely win, and someone like Dissention (if he played) who is a clique leader would be one of the first to go for sure. I really think you guys are blowing this out of proportion.

Moony
07-13-2005, 11:11 PM
The thing is, the outsiders who played would most likely win, and someone like Dissention (if he played) who is a clique leader would be one of the first to go for sure. I really think you guys are blowing this out of proportion.

Nope. It would just be a popularity contest, and when do those ever come to good?

Hawkeye
07-13-2005, 11:11 PM
No way. Why pit people against each other? The idea of hierarchy this promotes - 'So and so is better than so-and-so' is very immature. I don't understand why anyone would want to volunteer for such a thing - maybe seeking validation or trying to prove something.... I don't know. I do know, however, that it would royally SUCK to be one of the losers. And I wouldn't be too entertained by the sycophants and kiss-butts coming out to "support" their buds either. Lame, lame, lame.

Sorry Hawkeye - not trying to attack you - just can't you see this is a bad idea, if you think about it?

OR,maybe =beacause they think it would be fun?

Johnny Stew
07-13-2005, 11:13 PM
OR,maybe =beacause they think it would be fun?So far, 80% of the voters in this poll are saying they wouldn't play and/or think it's a bad idea.

I really do think it's best that we leave well enough alone.

Hawkeye
07-13-2005, 11:19 PM
well there's already 5 yes's. the 20 No's dont mean anything if eventually we get up to aroun 12-20 Yes's.

estranged4life
07-13-2005, 11:19 PM
I would be up for it as long as I can vote myself out of competition at the very beginning :lol:

All seriousness aside, I am surprised there's not a "Ledgie of the Month" vote...Would be cool to vote for one of our own as an outstanding Ledgie for a month :thumbsup:

Wild_Heart03
07-13-2005, 11:20 PM
Personal Attacks'D!

lol, the first thing I thought of when I saw this was "Teen Girl Squad"... ;)

As for Ledgie Survivor, I think I'd have to go with no. A lot of people would probably take it too personal.

Johnny Stew
07-13-2005, 11:23 PM
well there's already 5 yes's. the 20 No's dont mean anything if eventually we get up to aroun 12-20 Yes's.You certainly sound bound and determined to do it... better judgement be damned. :shrug:

darklinensuit
07-13-2005, 11:23 PM
If you're offering a million dollar prize, sure.
Otherwise, count me the hell out.
But no offense to those who want to play anyway. :)

- Jake

darklinensuit
07-13-2005, 11:27 PM
I wouldn't be hurt -- just as long as Jake goes before me :angel:

Piss off, Marisschard Hatch. :rolleyes: ;)

- Jake

Moony
07-13-2005, 11:27 PM
lol, the first thing I thought of when I saw this was "Teen Girl Squad"... ;)


Ha! I haven't watched that in so long!

"You guys are wack"

"Wiggity-wack?"

"Nope, just the regular type."

:D I have to go check if they made a new one now.

Wild_Heart03
07-13-2005, 11:29 PM
There's about 9 by now, I believe...... I was so obsessed at one point with that site I even have a Teen Girl Squad shirt hanging in my closet. :laugh:

xdreamsunwindx
07-13-2005, 11:33 PM
I agree.

Plus, I'd be voted off in a second :woohoo:

Me too. Yay, being hated!

Dude, I mean, this is totally going against the whole "NO PERSONAL ATTACKS" thing. I know I've done the same thing before, but I mean, this would be a total gateway for that. Besides, this stuff should have been over and done with in middle school.

GardenStateGirlie
07-13-2005, 11:37 PM
Piss off, Marisschard Hatch. :rolleyes: ;)

- Jake

Thems' fightin' words! :mad: ;)

dissention
07-13-2005, 11:41 PM
Dissention (if he played) who is a clique leader

I am? News to me. I thought I mostly pissed people off.

The whole Ledgie Survivor game is ridiculous. Why create more drama that is anything but necessary? As Nancy said earlier, seeing someone voted to Best Ledgie Ever!1!!!11! would be gag-inducing and the whole idea is just stupid, for lack of a better term. No one needs to be hurt or belittled by something as asinine as a Ledgie Survivor game.

macfanken
07-13-2005, 11:47 PM
I would play... but I'd be pissed if I got voted off. I'd probably make a list of everyone who voted against me and send them nasty little PMs and hold a grudge against these people for the rest of my Ledgie life.

dissention
07-13-2005, 11:49 PM
I would play... but I'd be pissed if I got voted off. I'd probably make a list of everyone who voted against me and send them nasty little PMs and hold a grudge against these people for the rest of my Ledgie life.

Well, let's get it out into the open now, then. I hate you. You hurt my everything. Plz die.

:p

amber
07-13-2005, 11:51 PM
I am? News to me. I thought I mostly pissed people off.

The whole Ledgie Survivor game is ridiculous. Why create more drama that is anything but necessary? As Nancy said earlier, seeing someone voted to Best Ledgie Ever!1!!!11! would be gag-inducing and the whole idea is just stupid, for lack of a better term. No one needs to be hurt or belittled by something as asinine as a Ledgie Survivor game.
Hello, thank you, Carmine. Worst.Idea.Ever.

Love, Angela.

macfanken
07-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Well, let's get it out into the open now, then. I hate you. You hurt my everything. Plz die.

:p

You're on my list. I hope you enjoy nasty PMs.

dissention
07-13-2005, 11:56 PM
You're on my list. I hope you enjoy nasty PMs.

I lived with my mother for 17 years of my life and I can guarantee you that I don't enjoy nasty PMS.

dissention
07-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Hello, thank you, Carmine. Worst.Idea.Ever.

Love, Angela.

:laugh:

I so want to change my name to Carmine.

amber
07-13-2005, 11:58 PM
:laugh:

I so want to change my name to Carmine.
Get some chest hair and do it. do it.

StevieNicksEO17
07-14-2005, 12:00 AM
I lived with my mother for 17 years of my life and I can guarantee you that I don't enjoy nasty PMS.

:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

dissention
07-14-2005, 12:00 AM
Get some chest hair and do it. do it.

I have some, but sadly, probably not enough to pass for a Carmine. I'm also not balding and I'm a bit too tall to pass for a goombah. Why has life forsaken me like this?

darklinensuit
07-14-2005, 12:01 AM
Get some chest hair and do it. do it.

You'd have to be Shirley Feeney then. :)

- Jake

amber
07-14-2005, 12:02 AM
I have some, but sadly, probably not enough to pass for a Carmine. I'm also not balding and I'm a bit too tall to pass for a goombah. Why has life forsaken me like this?
You could be Tony Manero italian instead of all the other ones. You know, handome italian? Not balding? My dad has pretty much a full head of hair, and very little chest hair. And he's slim. So there ya go! Just do it.do it.

amber
07-14-2005, 12:03 AM
You'd have to be Shirley Feeney then. :)

- Jake
:lol:
NO.
Um...my name is already Angela, and Shirley isn't italian, and also, NO. hehehehe, "feeney" hehehehehe.

Wild_Heart03
07-14-2005, 12:04 AM
I lived with my mother for 17 years of my life and I can guarantee you that I don't enjoy nasty PMS.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

dissention
07-14-2005, 12:09 AM
You could be Tony Manero italian instead of all the other ones. You know, handome italian? Not balding? My dad has pretty much a full head of hair, and very little chest hair. And he's slim. So there ya go! Just do it.do it.

But would he pass for a Carmine? That is the question. ;)

Isn't one of the Gotti boys named Carmine? They're so wretched, I hope not. They would taint the name.

amber
07-14-2005, 12:13 AM
But would he pass for a Carmine? That is the question. ;)

Isn't one of the Gotti boys named Carmine? They're so wretched, I hope not. They would taint the name.
I think they're both named Anthony?

dissention
07-14-2005, 12:18 AM
I think they're both named Anthony?

That would make it a bitch to get one of them to do something. :laugh:

darklinensuit
07-14-2005, 12:40 AM
:lol:
NO.
Um...my name is already Angela, and Shirley isn't italian, and also, NO. hehehehe, "feeney" hehehehehe.

Laverne was Italian.
Pizzabowl, anyone? :lol:

- Jake

diamondsnake
07-14-2005, 01:30 AM
I'd probably be the first one voted off just because I love "Alice"!

Dreammms
07-14-2005, 01:32 AM
I'd probably be the first one voted off just because I love "Alice"!

i think jimmy would go first...ALICELOVER. lol

seriously though i like the song alice.

Janet
07-14-2005, 04:01 AM
I said no because people's feelings would be hurt, it would divide us all and Chit Chat wouldn't be the same.

Plus, I'd get voted off really quick

but then I could just close the thread.
JUST KIDDING -he he he



:]
LONG LIVE SMILIES!

trackaghost
07-14-2005, 04:15 AM
I was only joking when I mentioned Ledgie Survivor in the Lindsey forum!
If people feel alienated now imagine how they'd feel after we'd got through with something like this!

Gypsy-Rhiannon
07-14-2005, 06:34 AM
I would probably play but I don't think it's the best of ideas. It would be trouble brewing me thinks!

Pip

ontheEdgeof17
07-14-2005, 06:37 AM
Nope.

Fun in theory. Bad in reality.

Mari
07-14-2005, 07:21 AM
But what if people can choose whether they want to be a contestant or not?

mondaymornin1
07-14-2005, 08:05 AM
I wouldn't play.


But I'd prolly read the thread...... ;)

chiliD
07-14-2005, 11:04 AM
As much as my evil side would just LOVE to play, I don't think it is even a good idea to even HAVE one. This place is ALREADY a hotbed of bad vibes bubbling under the surface (no matter HOW much of a "happy face" we gloss it over with)...why bring it out in the open?

It'd just be like pouring salt on a wound...heck, this place STILL hasn't healed completely from the old "Ledge Wars" of about 4 or 5 years ago.

SuzeQuze
07-14-2005, 11:16 AM
I am? News to me. I thought I mostly pissed people off..

You do, but we love you just the same, and partly for that. :xoxo:


The whole Ledgie Survivor game is ridiculous. Why create more drama that is anything but necessary? As Nancy said earlier, seeing someone voted to Best Ledgie Ever!1!!!11! would be gag-inducing and the whole idea is just stupid, for lack of a better term. No one needs to be hurt or belittled by something as asinine as a Ledgie Survivor game.

This is a very bad time to do something like this, I agree. I voted against and I ask you, Hawkeye, to please not do it. Maybe those who want to play can find another forum. Make your own google group or something.

Miss Vicky
07-14-2005, 12:14 PM
I probably would not participate in a Ledgie Survivor, mostly because I'm not on the Ledge as much as I used to be.

I personally would not care one way or the other if I got voted off early. (since I know I've made ssoo many friends here. :rolleyes: cough, cough) But some people probably would take it seriously and it might not be a good idea.

As to the idea of there being "cliques" and "clique leaders," I wasn't aware that we had them. :confused: There certainly is division among Ledgies in terms of which band member they most support, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them cliques. And Dissention? Is certainly not a leader. He stands on his own in his efforts to generally piss off (and crack up) everyone else.

Just my thoughts.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 12:46 PM
OR,maybe =beacause they think it would be fun?

why would it be fun, Hawkeye? Perhaps you hope to make it pretty far, so you'd get an ego boost out of it? Perhaps you're looking for an opportunity to bestow lots of compliments on your friends, and make them feel good? Perhaps you're even looking for an opportunity to express negativity towards others, and make it clear to them how you value them less than your friends? If it's not one of these, then what is it that makes you so desperately want to play this game? I'd honestly like to know.

I'm not sure why you seem to have so much invested in doing this but it's very unhealthy, IMHO. My respect for anyone who particpated would plummet, not that that's a deterrent to many folks, lol.

DrummerDeanna
07-14-2005, 02:54 PM
I agree with Nancy - I can't imagine someone wanting to participate in a Ledgie survivor - and as has been stated it's the LAST thing this board needs right now.

I notice that pretty much none of the 10 people who have said yes have posted anything - you may easily get 12 votes - but remember -folks who don't post but are registered (and lurking) or trolls - or whatever can vote...:shrug:

Baaaaaad idea. Very. bad. idea.

Mad4stevie
07-14-2005, 03:07 PM
My vote is NO.

This type of thing does nothing but create the exact kind of drama that is unhealthy and unnecessary. Especially around here, given the tone of many of the postings recently.

shackin'up
07-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Hawkeye, I think it's a fun idea. Defending eachother or voting eachother out with subjective reasons makes it fun to play, and can make some great discussion. I was number 11 to vote yes so, you need only one more. Let all those oversensible ledgies think what they want. Because 75-80 percent think it's not a good idea, does not mean you shouldn't do it, like Johnny Stew wants you to believe. If 20% of this board wants it, it's completely valid to do so. H*ll, even if it was 5 percent.

macfanken
07-14-2005, 03:20 PM
As much as my evil side would just LOVE to play, I don't think it is even a good idea to even HAVE one. This place is ALREADY a hotbed of bad vibes bubbling under the surface (no matter HOW much of a "happy face" we gloss it over with)...why bring it out in the open?



I promise to use lots of "smilies" when I vote you off. :) :) :)




Of course I'm just kidding. :lol:

amber
07-14-2005, 03:29 PM
Hawkeye, I think it's a fun idea. Defending eachother or voting eachother out with subjective reasons makes it fun to play, and can make some great discussion. I was number 11 to vote yes so, you need only one more. Let all those oversensible ledgies think what they want. Because 75-80 percent think it's not a good idea, does not mean you shouldn't do it, like Johnny Stew wants you to believe. If 20% of this board wants it, it's completely valid to do so. H*ll, even if it was 5 percent.
Let me just quickly point out that you are high. :) Also, that you may be high. :xoxo: As if there could be objective reasons for your opinion on someone's personality. Only a high person would think that. :)
Let me also say, that if by some DevilInstigated, godforsaken chance that this does happen, Under no circumstances do I want my name in there. :wavey:

shackin'up
07-14-2005, 03:56 PM
Let me just quickly point out that you are high. :) Also, that you may be high. :xoxo: As if there could be objective reasons for your opinion on someone's personality. Only a high person would think that. :)
Let me also say, that if by some DevilInstigated, godforsaken chance that this does happen, Under no circumstances do I want my name in there. :wavey:

let me point out quickly that I want to be high also that I like to be high but I am certainly sober. If my cripple english makes it only readable as if one could argue objective then I'm sorry, I'm dutch and my english isn't perfect but i'm not totally brainless. We play games here and those are fun. We're in a virtual world over here and that makes this wicked idea possible. I simply like the idea, it is a game, not real life and a clash of words-not people. I love that, also if your name is not on the playlist.

amber
07-14-2005, 04:16 PM
let me point out quickly that I want to be high also that I like to be high but I am certainly sober. If my cripple english makes it only readable as if one could argue objective then I'm sorry, I'm dutch and my english isn't perfect but i'm not totally brainless. We play games here and those are fun. We're in a virtual world over here and that makes this wicked idea possible. I simply like the idea, it is a game, not real life and a clash of words-not people. I love that, also if your name is not on the playlist.
I wasn't talking about your syntax, or grammar, love, I was talking about your idea, which it seems to me only someone high would endorse. :lol:
I just don't think there is any such thing possible as an "objective" judgement of someone's personality via posts. The words people use represent them, as people, I don't see that separation is really possible.
Also, I think it is just begging for people to be cruel, and for people's feelings to get hurt.
It's cool if you think that is a good idea - I mean, it's not cool, but I'm not the boss of you or anything. :shrug: :xoxo:

SteveMacD
07-14-2005, 04:36 PM
I say no. But then I'm the A-hole responsible for Stevie being voted off of FM Survivor. There's a mess of people wanting my hide voted off!

Nixxxed
07-14-2005, 04:52 PM
I'm pretty sick of all the freaking Survivor threads ... period.

Is this the only game it's possible to play on a message board?

HomerMcvie
07-14-2005, 05:08 PM
I think it's a bad idea, and I certainly wouldn't want to be a contestant. I think too many might have their feelings hurt, so why risk it?

dissention
07-14-2005, 05:11 PM
I think it's a bad idea, and I certainly wouldn't want to be a contestant. I think too many might have their feelings hurt, so why risk it?

Would you say that to Bob Dylan?

HomerMcvie
07-14-2005, 05:12 PM
But then I'm the A-hole responsible for Stevie being voted off of FM Survivor. There's a mess of people wanting my hide voted off!
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: Steven MacDougal, Ledgie of the Year.
Steve, did I ever tell you about the liquor store in Nashville, TN? Frugal MacDougal's. Got a giant Scotsman on the sign. I think of it everytime I see your name! :lol: Frugal MacDougal! :sorry:

wondergirl9847
07-14-2005, 05:14 PM
Maybe.

Oh, that's not an option...oops.

I'm gonna be one of THOSE Ledgies...and say no. It's a regular Pandora's Box, if ya ask me.

HomerMcvie
07-14-2005, 05:15 PM
Would you say that to Bob Dylan?
I'd tell Bob Dylan to kiss my ass! He stole one of the key members of my favorite country band, BR5-49, thus disabling their vehicle, and leaving them stranded on the side of the road! They're on haitus now, until Bob's done with him. :mad:

shackin'up
07-14-2005, 05:17 PM
I wasn't talking about your syntax, or grammar, love, I was talking about your idea, which it seems to me only someone high would endorse. :lol:
I just don't think there is any such thing possible as an "objective" judgement of someone's personality via posts. The words people use represent them, as people, I don't see that separation is really possible.
Also, I think it is just begging for people to be cruel, and for people's feelings to get hurt.
It's cool if you think that is a good idea - I mean, it's not cool, but I'm not the boss of you or anything. :shrug: :xoxo:
well i may be alien, but If shackin'up is bashed over here, gerald's not. Come on, of course it is possible to hurt peoples feelings, but we do now too, obviously. I understand it when you don't like the idea, but in a game-environment I simply don't see big problems.

shackin'up
07-14-2005, 05:21 PM
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: Steven MacDougal, Ledgie of the Year.
Steve, did I ever tell you about the liquor store in Nashville, TN? Frugal MacDougal's. Got a giant Scotsman on the sign. I think of it everytime I see your name! :lol: Frugal MacDougal! :sorry:

yes, steve's a hero. One of my fave albums of all time is called McDougal Blues. I frequently read "steve" before the title.
Oh if you don't know it: it's by Kevn Kinney and it's friggin brilliant.

SteveMacD
07-14-2005, 05:31 PM
:xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo: Steven MacDougal, Ledgie of the Year.
Steve, did I ever tell you about the liquor store in Nashville, TN? Frugal MacDougal's. Got a giant Scotsman on the sign. I think of it everytime I see your name! :lol: Frugal MacDougal! :sorry:
Actually, a buddy who lives in Nashville sent me like six cups from Frugal MacDoogal's!

littlecricket2
07-14-2005, 05:37 PM
How about a compromise?

Those who say "yes," that they want to play, are the only contestants, and you can all vote each other off. :cool:

My vote is NO.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 05:52 PM
Hawkeye, I think it's a fun idea. Defending eachother or voting eachother out with subjective reasons makes it fun to play, and can make some great discussion. I was number 11 to vote yes so, you need only one more. Let all those oversensible ledgies think what they want. Because 75-80 percent think it's not a good idea, does not mean you shouldn't do it, like Johnny Stew wants you to believe. If 20% of this board wants it, it's completely valid to do so. H*ll, even if it was 5 percent.

Are you serious? You're going to be one of the people going "Yay! My friends are so cool and those other people are not!" :blob2: :blob2: Gag me! COME ON. Yo'ure better than that. Hawkeye is young, so he doesn't understand yet how lame popularity contests are, but surely you do!

David
07-14-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm pretty sick of all the freaking Survivor threads ... period.Me, too. I'm running a Survivor over on the Rumours forum now, & I can barely work up the energy to finish compiling the results & start the new round. I'm bored out of my skull with it.
Is this the only game it's possible to play on a message board?I think we should not bother with all these Survivor games. We should instead conduct polls for whether to play as-yet-unformulated Survivor games.

I just got really excited when I saw a Stevie photo in someone's sig. I think it was Kimberly/CreepingDeath. She has a photo of Stevie taken by Jim Welander, & Jim Welander is, as you know (or maybe you don't), the greatest photographer of concert Stevie in this, our life.

JIM, WHERE ARE YOU??!! PLEASE COME BACK TO THE LAND OF THE INTERNET LIVING!! PLEASE SELL YOUR PHOTOS OR POST THEM FOR ALL TO SEE & IDOLIZE!!

I bow down, my nose scraping along the ground, before the Camera God Jim Welander.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 05:58 PM
How about a compromise?

Those who say "yes," that they want to play, are the only contestants, and you can all vote each other off. :cool:

My vote is NO.

As I said in other thread, at least it will be interesting to see who is lame enough to want to participate (no offense, Hawkeye, I know you are intelligent, I still hold out hope that you will see the light! Resist the lameness, my friend! Stop now and maintain your dignity!)

I can see them all now. "Oh like my friend is so cool and smart, I love reading her posts, I always agree, she is such an asset for the Ledge, she makes my day bright - [insert name here] is boring, and likes stupid songs, and annoys me, and even if I did like her she is just so much less cool tham my awesome friend!" :xoxo: :blob2: :xoxo:

:: BARF :: :: GAG :: :: BARF ::

David
07-14-2005, 06:05 PM
As I said in other thread, at least it will be interesting to see who is lame enough to want to participate (no offense, Hawkeye, I know you are intelligent, I still hold out hope that you will see the light! Resist the lameness, my friend! Stop now and maintain your dignity!)To me, people aren't "lame." They're "funky."
I can see them all now. "Oh like my friend is so cool and smart, I love reading her posts, I always agree, she is such an asset for the Ledge, she makes my day bright - [insert name here] is boring, and likes stupid songs, and annoys me, and even if I did like her she is just so much less cool tham my awesome friend!"that gives me a better idea for a ledgie game. Give a description of another ledgie, & other ledgies have to guess whom you're talking about. Whoever guesses correctly gets to post the next description.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 06:13 PM
To me, people aren't "lame." They're "funky."

Aw, how nice. :)

But unfortunately I see far more lameness than funk around.

that gives me a better idea for a ledgie game. Give a description of another ledgie, & other ledgies have to guess whom you're talking about. Whoever guesses correctly gets to post the next description.

I can see this going sour too, either that or becoming unbearably fawning. Probably the latter, admittedly, unless someone is acting out a vendetta. But I shudder to think of all the kissy face smileys that will be employed in such a project. I think I shall again proceed to gag.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 06:15 PM
No explanation necessary.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 06:19 PM
No explanation necessary.

Thanks for the effective demonstration of why this should not be done.

heyjupiter678
07-14-2005, 06:20 PM
No explanation necessary. :rolleyes:

Serrart
07-14-2005, 06:23 PM
I wouldn't vote and wouldn't like to be on the list but I'd campaign for others even if unrequested. :D. J/K.

Romy

P.S I don't think it would be a great idea to have a Ledgie survivor. It could become easily a passive/aggressive machine, IMO.

trackaghost
07-14-2005, 06:24 PM
No explanation necessary.

I don't think that's true at all personally.

But anyway I still don't think it's a good idea.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the effective demonstration of why this should not be done.

Will there be anything else for you today?

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Will there be anything else for you today?

Yes, I'd like a tall mocha. ;)

amber
07-14-2005, 06:28 PM
I don't think that's true at all personally.

But anyway I still don't think it's a good idea.
Yes, explanations make everything much more fun and precise. :lol: :rolleyes:
Sesly.Worst.Idea.Ever.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 06:32 PM
Thanks for the effective demonstration of why this should not be done.

(and to heyjupiter, trackaghost and amber)

No, thank you for the effective demonstration of how crippled this board is without the use of smilies. It was a joke. I'm not that mean (urge for rolling eyes smilie).

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 06:35 PM
(and to heyjupiter, trackaghost and amber)

No, thank you for the effective demonstration of how crippled this board is without the use of smilies. It was a joke. I'm not that mean (urge for rolling eyes smilie).

Why, here's one! :rolleyes:

P.S. A lot of people ARE that mean. So my comment still stands.

heyjupiter678
07-14-2005, 06:36 PM
(and to heyjupiter, trackaghost and amber)

No, thank you for the effective demonstration of how crippled this board is without the use of smilies. It was a joke. I'm not that mean (urge for rolling eyes smilie). Yeah, I see what you mean. A smilie (or two or five) would've made that ****ing hilarious.

trackaghost
07-14-2005, 06:41 PM
(and to heyjupiter, trackaghost and amber)

No, thank you for the effective demonstration of how crippled this board is without the use of smilies. It was a joke. I'm not that mean (urge for rolling eyes smilie).

If Lux thinks everyone here hates her then that, even as a joke, certainly perpetuates that idea, don't you think?

HomerMcvie
07-14-2005, 06:55 PM
If Lux thinks everyone here hates her then that, even as a joke, certainly perpetuates that idea, don't you think?
Yes, it certainly does. What if, just what IF, this was the last straw for some poor soul, and they ended it all. I KNOW it's not likely, but what IF? How would you feel about the game then? I think the Round 1 - Lux post was utter ****!
BTW, I like Lux.

Dreammms
07-14-2005, 07:12 PM
Yes, it certainly does. What if, just what IF, this was the last straw for some poor soul, and they ended it all. I KNOW it's not likely, but what IF? How would you feel about the game then? I think the Round 1 - Lux post was utter ****!
BTW, I like Lux.

I totally agree. I think it's ****ed up too. I like you too Lux. :wavey:

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 07:22 PM
Yes, it certainly does. What if, just what IF, this was the last straw for some poor soul, and they ended it all. I KNOW it's not likely, but what IF? How would you feel about the game then? I think the Round 1 - Lux post was utter ****!
BTW, I like Lux.

Lux thinks it's funny. She's on AIM and is laughing about it as we speak. Sorry you think it's utter ****. Lighten up? You're the only ones who don't realize it was a joke even after I said it was. Er..you might want to give her more credit and intelligence than to say she'd off herself coz someone made a joke on the ledge. I mean, I know nobody EVER jokes around here..but still.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Thanks for saying I'm f*cked up, though. Nice touch. Classy.

HomerMcvie
07-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Lux thinks it's funny. She's on AIM and is laughing about it as we speak. Sorry you think it's utter ****. Lighten up? You're the only ones who don't realize it was a joke even after I said it was. Er..you might want to give her more credit and intelligence than to say she'd off herself coz someone made a joke on the ledge. I mean, I know nobody EVER jokes around here..but still.
I can't READ Lux' mind. If I were her, I would've found that post very offensive. Maybe she was in on the joke, but I have no way of knowing that, do I? I just don't want to see someone REALLY get their feelings hurt.

trackaghost
07-14-2005, 07:27 PM
Lux thinks it's funny. She's on AIM and is laughing about it as we speak. Sorry you think it's utter ****. Lighten up? You're the only ones who don't realize it was a joke even after I said it was. Er..you might want to give her more credit and intelligence than to say she'd off herself coz someone made a joke on the ledge. I mean, I know nobody EVER jokes around here..but still.

Why are you stirring? I don't get it, why mention Lux at all?
But I guess as long as you and your clique think it's funny, good for you.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 07:29 PM
I can't READ Lux' mind. If I were her, I would've found that post very offensive. Maybe she was in on the joke, but I have no way of knowing that, do I? I just don't want to see someone REALLY get their feelings hurt.

Are you done? I'd say the attacks on me far outweigh the joke, wouldn't you? Go ahead and hurl some more my way if it makes you feel better, though. Wouldn't want to REALLY not get my feelings hurt.

Dreammms
07-14-2005, 07:35 PM
Thanks for saying I'm f*cked up, though. Nice touch. Classy.


I just think this whole ledgie surviour is crap. what are we five?

i didn't know you were joking and i am glad you were. but if you weren't joking than yes that would have been ****ed up.

i am glad Lux knows about this and isn't offended.

dissention
07-14-2005, 07:38 PM
:rolleyes:

Might as well just start the Ledgie Survivor game now and get it over with. The drama has already started in this thread, so it really doesn't matter at this point.

heyjupiter678
07-14-2005, 07:38 PM
Are you done? I'd say the attacks on me far outweigh the joke, wouldn't you? Go ahead and hurl some more my way if it makes you feel better, though. Wouldn't want to REALLY not get my feelings hurt. Attacks on you? We responded to what we thought was an offensive post. No one attacked you personally.

trackaghost
07-14-2005, 07:43 PM
:rolleyes:

Might as well just start the Ledgie Survivor game now and get it over with. The drama has already started in this thread, so it really doesn't matter at this point.

Yeah, even discussing this stuff starts the drama off again. It's such a shame.
God can you imagine what the FM Drama board would have made of all this?
That website was just so wrong and yet so addictive.

Oh and I still don't see the problem with using smilies. Why are some people so down on them?

SteveMacD
07-14-2005, 07:43 PM
Sorry, the guy's an asshole.

littlecricket2
07-14-2005, 07:45 PM
:rolleyes:

Might as well just start the Ledgie Survivor game now and get it over with. The drama has already started in this thread, so it really doesn't matter at this point.

Yeah, this is getting really weird. Lagringader&r, are you still mad about the Random Thoughts/Express Yourself thread? Because it seems like you've got a lot of anger or something. People were defending Lux, and it sounds like you like Lux and were making a joke and she was in on it, so basically everyone who has responded to your post is in agreement on some basic level. I don't understand what the big deal is; there was just a misunderstanding.

littlecricket2
07-14-2005, 07:46 PM
Sorry, the guy's an asshole.

I was horrified until I realized that you were posting about yourself, LOL!

littlecricket2
07-14-2005, 08:04 PM
Actually I was asleep. I know she's kidding but I wasn't involved in anything.

Hi, Lux. Mmkay, well that makes things even weirder. I give up, I think I need to just stop reading this thread.

lagringader&r
07-14-2005, 08:05 PM
Actually I was asleep. I know she's kidding but I wasn't involved in anything.

You were talking to me on AIM for the last hour. You said you thought it was funny. Ok, this is weird now but I'm not playing along anymore. Have fun.

heyjupiter678
07-14-2005, 08:06 PM
Hi, Lux. Mmkay, well that makes things even weirder. I give up, I think I need to just stop reading this thread. :nod: You and me both.

AliceLover
07-14-2005, 08:38 PM
This whole thread is ridiculous.

David
07-14-2005, 09:18 PM
Yeah, even discussing this stuff starts the drama off again. It's such a shame.
God can you imagine what the FM Drama board would have made of all this?
That website was just so wrong and yet so addictive.A person named RKzinsky was responsible for that.
Oh and I still don't see the problem with using smilies. Why are some people so down on them?Because the smilies are used to smokescreen genuine antagonism by coating it with a veneer of pseudo-civility. Mixed metaphor & all!

David
07-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Sorry, the guy's an asshole.Come on, now, ya bum! It's not as if Nepotist were over here scooping out your enclave!

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 09:20 PM
Yeah, even discussing this stuff starts the drama off again. It's such a shame.
God can you imagine what the FM Drama board would have made of all this?
That website was just so wrong and yet so addictive.


Ugh, I remember that board. I was flame-broiled on it. But I didn't take it lying down. lol

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 09:22 PM
A person named RKzinsky was responsible for that.
Because the smilies are used to smokescreen genuine antagonism by coating it with a veneer of pseudo-civility. Mixed metaphor & all!

Yes, passive aggressive smileys are very annoying - and very transparent.

SteveMacD
07-14-2005, 09:27 PM
Come on, now, ya bum! It's not as if Nepotist were over here scooping out your enclave!
Wow, now there's a blast from the past! We never hear from that crazy Canuk anymore. Too bad. I really miss the way he would just **** on everybody, including, no, ESPECIALLY, Fleetwood Mac! His posts were hilarious.

David
07-14-2005, 09:29 PM
Yes, passive aggressive smileys are very annoying - and very transparent.Yep. I don't mind them being used to express genuine joy or confusion or something, although I just imagine they're little critters parading in front of me in a shooting gallery.

But when they're used to "allow" peoople to be nasty or even to break the ledge rules, I would imagine that just about everyone can see right through them.

David
07-14-2005, 09:32 PM
Wow, now there's a blast from the past! We never hear from that crazy Canuk anymore. Too bad. I really miss the way he would just **** on everybody, including, no, ESPECIALLY, Fleetwood Mac! His posts were hilarious.He befriended me, for some reason, & always invited me to Toronto to hang out with his band. Then he sent me their latest album. It was quite good! Very ambient, fuzz-jangle, atmospheric sort of music. One track -- I forgot the name of it -- was a masterpiece.

I still get bulk e-mail occasionally from the band when they're touring or gigging. Imagine the fun if Nep hung out here!

Johnny Stew
07-14-2005, 10:48 PM
Ugh, I remember that board. I was flame-broiled on it. But I didn't take it lying down. lolI was told that things were said about me there (I've been told that of other boards, too)... I never cared enough to look.

Some drip on a message board doesn't like me? How will I ever go on?! :laugh:

Johnny Stew
07-14-2005, 10:51 PM
Because 75-80 percent think it's not a good idea, does not mean you shouldn't do it, like Johnny Stew wants you to believe. If 20% of this board wants it, it's completely valid to do so. H*ll, even if it was 5 percent.Gerald, no matter what I say, you're always there to express a contrary opinion. :laugh:

The sky is blue!

dissention
07-14-2005, 10:55 PM
I was told that things were said about me there (I've been told that of other boards, too)... I never cared enough to look.

Some drip on a message board doesn't like me? How will I ever go on?! :laugh:

That board was for spineless cowards. Everyone posted under a different name, but I didn't give a rats ass and used my regular one. Then it went down two days after I joined. Which was fine with me because I really had no desire to read Stevie/Lindsey pornfic.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 11:02 PM
That board was for spineless cowards. Everyone posted under a different name, but I didn't give a rats ass and used my regular one. Then it went down two days after I joined. Which was fine with me because I really had no desire to read Stevie/Lindsey pornfic.

Everyone used aliases except you, me, and Lux, I believe. Although Carne's "VacaSurvivor" left nothing to the imagination either.

Brian's right - I shouldn't care - BUT it was oh so delicious to hose them down with my disdain.

Johnny Stew
07-14-2005, 11:04 PM
That board was for spineless cowards. Everyone posted under a different name, but I didn't give a rats ass and used my regular one. Then it went down two days after I joined. Which was fine with me because I really had no desire to read Stevie/Lindsey pornfic.I guess "FM Drama" lived up to its name then! :laugh:

I'd often wondered if we were the only online fan community with this much drama and in-fighting, but a friend of mine is a massive Queen fan, and he said the animosity that runs through their online fan community could put ours to shame.

amber
07-14-2005, 11:07 PM
I guess "FM Drama" lived up to its name then! :laugh:

I'd often wondered if we were the only online fan community with this much drama and in-fighting, but a friend of mine is a massive Queen fan, and he said the animosity that runs through their online fan community could put ours to shame.
My mom was into some kind of smart page, or something, DaVinci's room, I think it was called? And she said people were so cruel, and so rude, the stories she told I could never believe. makes this place look like a love in. Of course, they were mean about smart, knowledge things. They would belittle you unmercifully for not having some point of really obscure knowledge about something most people don't care about. :rolleyes:

amber
07-14-2005, 11:08 PM
Everyone used aliases except you, me, and Lux, I believe. Although Carne's "VacaSurvivor" left nothing to the imagination either.

Brian's right - I shouldn't care - BUT it was oh so delicious to hose them down with my disdain.
:lol: :lol: :lol: "hose them down with my disdain." And yes, I did belly laugh. Yay, Nancy. It's hard to resist when someone is snarking you. Sometimes.

dissention
07-14-2005, 11:16 PM
Everyone used aliases except you, me, and Lux, I believe. Although Carne's "VacaSurvivor" left nothing to the imagination either.

Brian's right - I shouldn't care - BUT it was oh so delicious to hose them down with my disdain.

That place was a riot to read and I was sad to see it go. Sure was entertaining. It was supposed to come back on a new host, but it never did.

Hawkeye
07-14-2005, 11:19 PM
why would it be fun, Hawkeye? Perhaps you hope to make it pretty far, so you'd get an ego boost out of it? Perhaps you're looking for an opportunity to bestow lots of compliments on your friends, and make them feel good? Perhaps you're even looking for an opportunity to express negativity towards others, and make it clear to them how you value them less than your friends? If it's not one of these, then what is it that makes you so desperately want to play this game? I'd honestly like to know.

I'm not sure why you seem to have so much invested in doing this but it's very unhealthy, IMHO. My respect for anyone who particpated would plummet, not that that's a deterrent to many folks, lol.

Well if I ran it, I wouldnt even be playing or voting so no ego boost there. And what friends are you talking about. I dont think I have any friends OR enemies on The Ledge. Everyones pretty much about equal. I just want to do it to see what happens. And you guys are really just being way too overeactive with this. The only way I think it would be bad is if in the first round everyone voted for the same person. Things CAN'T get more volatile then they already are and they arent that bad. I really dont see anyone getting too upset over this. And now I want to play more then ever to proove you people wrong. Im up to 12 yes's :lol:

Hawkeye
07-14-2005, 11:24 PM
As I said in other thread, at least it will be interesting to see who is lame enough to want to participate (no offense, Hawkeye, I know you are intelligent, I still hold out hope that you will see the light! Resist the lameness, my friend! Stop now and maintain your dignity!)

I can see them all now. "Oh like my friend is so cool and smart, I love reading her posts, I always agree, she is such an asset for the Ledge, she makes my day bright - [insert name here] is boring, and likes stupid songs, and annoys me, and even if I did like her she is just so much less cool tham my awesome friend!" :xoxo: :blob2: :xoxo:

:: BARF :: :: GAG :: :: BARF ::

I'd bet a Fleetwood Mac Live Bootleg that does NOT happen.

Hawkeye
07-14-2005, 11:25 PM
:rolleyes:

Might as well just start the Ledgie Survivor game now and get it over with. The drama has already started in this thread, so it really doesn't matter at this point.

You see, there's drama even without a Survivor.

Hawkeye
07-14-2005, 11:28 PM
Can I add that there are THOUSANDS of people on The Ledge. Of course there would have to be a sign up. And only those Ledgies could participate and vote.

Johnny Stew
07-14-2005, 11:34 PM
And you guys are really just being way too overeactive with this. Things CAN'T get more volatile then they already are and they arent that bad.Having been posting on the Ledge since 1997, I can say that you're completely wrong about that.

This isn't about voting against a four-minute pop song or somebody in a music group you've never met, it's about voting against people.

Whether you want to accept it or not, absolutely nothing good or fun can come from this "game."

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 11:34 PM
I'd bet a Fleetwood Mac Live Bootleg that does NOT happen.

Oh, they won't use those words. But that will be the mentality. I can't wait to see who these 12 people are. No doubt people with "posses" who are counting on their little friends to jump in and gush about them. Sigh.

sodascouts
07-14-2005, 11:37 PM
That place was a riot to read and I was sad to see it go. Sure was entertaining. It was supposed to come back on a new host, but it never did.

It's probably around somewhere, considerably pared down so that the members don't have to take what they dish out.

Johnny Stew
07-14-2005, 11:39 PM
You see, there's drama even without a Survivor.And that's exactly the point everyone is making, and trying to make you see.
We have enough drama without having a game where folks are voting off other Ledgies... so why on Earth would anyone want to make matters worse?

I don't want to sound like I'm throwing my weight around here, but I will say this: if you do go forward with this game -- the second things start to get out-of-hand, either myself or one of the other moderators will close the thread.

darklinensuit
07-14-2005, 11:49 PM
Having been posting on the Ledge since 1997, I can say that you're completely wrong about that.

This isn't about voting against a four-minute pop song or somebody in a music group you've never met, it's about voting against people.

Whether you want to accept it or not, absolutely nothing good or fun can come from this "game."

Maybe you can compromise. Like if they have WISYA as the theme song. ;) :lol: :wavey:

- Jake

NaiveMelody23
07-14-2005, 11:51 PM
I personally dont care, but many may take offense like others have said
then again..it is a game, so lets try to have fun
I know I'm gonna be voted off soon(if this game takes place) so in all aspects
I have to deal with it, but many probaly would be mad lol.

Hawkeye
07-15-2005, 12:14 AM
Oh, they won't use those words. But that will be the mentality. I can't wait to see who these 12 people are. No doubt people with "posses" who are counting on their little friends to jump in and gush about them. Sigh.

could you point out these POSSES to me. I dont see them. Maybe according to which Macster's songs you like best, but thats to be expected in a Message Board about a band. And that could easily spill into this proposed game (again, just propossed) but thats OK. I really dont see how people is ANY worse then songs, considering how passionitee we all are about these songs. Again I'd rather be voted out then Stevie or Lindsey.

To answer all your questions of why I would Possibly want to do this (Man do I feel like Lindsey on Destiny Rules, I feel your pain Lindsey) maybe Im just not as sensitvie as many of you.

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 12:26 AM
Maybe you can compromise. Like if they have WISYA as the theme song. ;) :lol: :wavey:I want a 'Survivor' where the object is to vote out the BEST songs first, in order to determine the WORST Mac song. It's the only way my precious "WISYA" will ever win! :laugh:

(For the record, I'm not really calling for that kind of 'Survivor'... I'm getting a bit sick of them, truth be told.)

David
07-15-2005, 12:39 AM
(For the record, I'm not really calling for that kind of 'Survivor'... I'm getting a bit sick of them, truth be told.)We need a new game here, Stew.

How about electronic whist?

Or Guess The Director?

Or What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?

amber
07-15-2005, 12:42 AM
We need a new game here, Stew.

How about electronic whist?

Or Guess The Director?

Or What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?
Dude - Ledgie trivia - who said what, who likes what, who would want what. I love trivia, and I love people's personalities, and it seems like a fair one. Like (easy one) "Who loves OSOTM more than anyone?" and stuff like that. "who thinks That Made Me Stronger is *insert quote here*" and like that. That could be fun, and it wouldn't hurt anyone, and it is oh, so trivial! but MacLedge Trivial!
For instance "Who wishes Stevie would sing 'Sweet Betsy From Pike?'"
etc. :nod:

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 12:49 AM
Dude - Ledgie trivia - who said what, who likes what, who would want what. I love trivia, and I love people's personalities, and it seems like a fair one. Like (easy one) "Who loves OSOTM more than anyone?" and stuff like that. "who thinks That Made Me Stronger is *insert quote here*" and like that. That could be fun, and it wouldn't hurt anyone, and it is oh, so trivial! but MacLedge Trivial!
For instance "Who wishes Stevie would sing 'Sweet Betsy From Pike?'"
etc. :nod:Ledgie Trivia sounds fun actually.

IE: "Which Ledgie cites Ewan MacGregor as his favorite actor?"
Ans: Moony

Keep the questions light and fun and nobody gets hurt. ;)

I also like David's idea for "What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?"
Whoever runs it, could have Ledgies PM or email them, with their responses to that question. Then it could be a multiple choice.

"Which Ledgie sat on an egg as a 5-year old, hoping to hatch it?"
A. chiliD
B. jwd
C. Johnny Stew

After someone answers it correctly, we'd go on to the next multiple choice question.

(For the record, the answer is "C." :o )

Wild_Heart03
07-15-2005, 12:52 AM
lol Johnny, I like that idea! It would certainly be a good way to involve Ledgies, without all that icky drama stuff. :nod:

amber
07-15-2005, 12:55 AM
Ledgie Trivia sounds fun actually.

IE: "Which Ledgie cites Ewan MacGregor as his favorite actor?"
Ans: Moony

Keep the questions light and fun and nobody gets hurt. ;)

I also like David's idea for "What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?"
Whoever runs it, could have Ledgies PM or email them, with their responses to that question. Then it could be a multiple choice.

"Which Ledgie sat on an egg as a 5-year old, hoping to hatch it?"
A. chiliD
B. jwd
C. Johnny Stew

After someone answers it correctly, we'd go on to the next multiple choice question.

(For the record, the answer is "C." :o )

:lol: :lol: five year old johnny stew is so cute right now!
But yeah, I think that would be fun. But who, and how, would run it? You really would need a wealth of information. I'm thinking that you'd need quite a few ledgies, new and old, to do that thing. And then, some who thought of questions in some rounds, couldn't answer, and stuff. A good way, maybe, would be if everyone submitted questions, and then someone went through them to weed out multiples, and such. But then, how would we work the part where, if it was about someone, they couldn't answer? I'm thinking, if someone doesn't answer, it might be obvious it was them, and all that. Or we could take turns, in some way...I dunno. Maybe some super virgo could work out the logistics? It does sound fun, though. (she says as if she wasn't the one who thought of it. :lol: ) I don't like the whole PM thing, it would be funner out in the open.

Miss Vicky
07-15-2005, 12:57 AM
I have only been a Ledgie for about six months, but have been active for several years in other online communities and let me just say this:

It makes no difference what brings all of us together, there's always going to be people who disagree with each other and who flat out dislike each other. This is true of any board or mailing list. I've seen some of the worst online fighting between members of <i>pet</i> discussion groups - the worst being a hermit crab lovers list that I used to belong to.

Opening up a thread like "Ledgie Survivor" is just asking for trouble. It provides an outlet for those with vendettas and grudges to to say nasty things about others under the guise of "it's just a game."

Furthermore, the internet allows for people to say things they might not say in a face to face situation. Sometimes this is very good, but in a situation like this, it's potentially very, very bad. On an online forum such as this, participants don't have to see the reactions of the other members. They don't see any anger or tears their words might cause and likewise they are essentially immune to any real reprocussions for those words.

On another note, the internet also creates a much greater potential for misunderstanding than does a face to face situation. Comments made in jest or sarcasm on The Ledge do not have the benefit of inflection and facial expressions to convey that meaning and can easily be mistaken as truth. Thus feelings can be hurt and fights erupt when the actual intention was good.

Hawkeye, I'm not really familiar with you, and I'm hoping your intentions are good, but the overwhelming response to your poll has been "No." Surely you should take this into consideration and rethink the wisdom of starting such a thread. Even in this thread, we've seen a taste of the trouble that is brewing under the surface, just waiting for an opportunity, like Ledgie Survivor, to erupt.

amber
07-15-2005, 12:59 AM
lol Johnny, I like that idea! It would certainly be a good way to involve Ledgies, without all that icky drama stuff. :nod:
*aherm* *wants credit for my idea* :lol:
"who always wants credit for their ideas?"
A. Amber
B. Amber
C. Amber
:lol:

lagringader&r
07-15-2005, 01:03 AM
I agree that there shouldn't be a Ledgie Survivor. If you guys couldn't handle a joke, you sure couldn't handle the real thing.

Little Cricket, I don't have a lot of anger. When I explained that my post was a joke, the not-so-nice responses continued and continued and continued. I explained that I am not that mean. I am not mean at all. I have not started one fight on this board. Not one. I'm not sure I've participated in one (till now). I didn't start that one. I explained it was a joke and then felt the need to defend myself. I would never post something against someone unless that person was aware it was a joke. I never have. I don't have hostility towards the Random Thoughts thread, like you said. If you go back and read my post, there wasn't one hostile thing in it. Just the facts. I can't be angry about insensitivity. The topic came up and I was backing Lux up with my own experience.

Trackaghost, I'm not in a clique. I don't know what you're talking about. I chat with maybe 2 or 3 people on this board and they don't really chat much with each other. So, I'm confused. I think that's it.

Wild_Heart03
07-15-2005, 01:07 AM
*aherm* *wants credit for my idea* :lol:
"who always wants credit for their ideas?"
A. Amber
B. Amber
C. Amber
:lol:


lol, sorry sweetie...... ;) Still a great idea!

David
07-15-2005, 01:08 AM
Little Cricket, I don't have a lot of anger. When I explained that my post was a joke, the not-so-nice responses continued and continued and continued. I explained that I am not that mean. I am not mean at all.Mean or not, are you aware of the fact that you have an AMAZING JIM WELANDER PHOTO IN YOUR SIG?!
:blob1: :blob1: :blob2:

amber
07-15-2005, 01:12 AM
lol, sorry sweetie...... ;) Still a great idea!
:xoxo:
Ah, pride and ego - the sins I must work on. But still! How often do I have a good idea??? :lol:
must give credit to David for Inspiration.
"Sweet David From Pike"

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 01:12 AM
:lol: :lol: five year old johnny stew is so cute right now!My mother likes to note, when telling the story, that I wasn't at all upset about the mess the broken egg made all over the chair... but that I was DEVASTATED because I thought I killed the baby chick. :o :laugh:

I don't like the whole PM thing, it would be funner out in the open.I just mentioned PMs in relation to the "What's The Weirdest Thing" game. You'd need one person to run that, armed with these little weird factoids that only they and the Ledgie in question know. But the game itself would be played on the boards.

For the general Ledgie trivia game... well, I'm not sure how one would go about running that one. And I'm too tired to try and figure it out!

amber
07-15-2005, 01:18 AM
My mother likes to note, when telling the story, that I wasn't at all upset about the mess the broken egg made all over the chair... but that I was DEVASTATED because I thought I killed the baby chick. :o :laugh:

I just mentioned PMs in relation to the "What's The Weirdest Thing" game. You'd need one person to run that, armed with these little weird factoids that only they and the Ledgie in question know. But the game itself would be played on the boards.

For the general Ledgie trivia game... well, I'm not sure how one would go about running that one. And I'm too tired to try and figure it out!
Okay, I'll figure it out. That's almost as good as my mom's story about me singing GDW all around when I was 3. ;) Okay, it's way better, but mine has GDW! :xoxo:

lagringader&r
07-15-2005, 01:22 AM
Mean or not, are you aware of the fact that you have an AMAZING JIM WELANDER PHOTO IN YOUR SIG?!
:blob1: :blob1: :blob2:

I had to go look him up but isn't that the best picture? Somebody else posted it in the Stevie Overbite Appreciation Thread and I asked her if I could have it for my sig. I immediately fell in love with it. Welander was obviously an awesome photographer and he had a beautiful subject. I can't stop looking at that pic!

Wild_Heart03
07-15-2005, 01:27 AM
:xoxo:
Ah, pride and ego - the sins I must work on. But still! How often do I have a good idea??? :lol:
must give credit to David for Inspiration.
"Sweet David From Pike"

:lol: :lol:

*sends inspiration snaps David's way*

Janet
07-15-2005, 01:31 AM
Ledgie Trivia sounds fun actually.

IE: "Which Ledgie cites Ewan MacGregor as his favorite actor?"
Ans: Moony

Keep the questions light and fun and nobody gets hurt. ;)

I also like David's idea for "What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?"
Whoever runs it, could have Ledgies PM or email them, with their responses to that question. Then it could be a multiple choice.

"Which Ledgie sat on an egg as a 5-year old, hoping to hatch it?"
A. chiliD
B. jwd
C. Johnny Stew

After someone answers it correctly, we'd go on to the next multiple choice question.

(For the record, the answer is "C." :o )


Did it ever hatch?? :)

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 01:35 AM
Did it ever hatch?? :)No, I killed it. :distress:

:laugh:

Janet
07-15-2005, 01:38 AM
:eek:

LONG LIVE THE SMILIES :] :blob1: :) :woohoo: :nod: :rolleyes:

Wild_Heart03
07-15-2005, 01:44 AM
LOL Janet, I love your av..... one of my fave moments in Seven Wonders. :nod:

SteveMacD
07-15-2005, 02:24 AM
LOL Janet, I love your av..... one of my fave moments in Seven Wonders. :nod:
Am I the only one who thinks Lindsey looks like a young Art Carney at that particular moment?

Mari
07-15-2005, 02:39 AM
Everyone used aliases except you, me, and Lux, I believe. Although Carne's "VacaSurvivor" left nothing to the imagination either.

Brian's right - I shouldn't care - BUT it was oh so delicious to hose them down with my disdain.

Mwoh. I thought I was pretty transparent too. :shrug: I laughed my ass off for a lot of the posts over there.

Moony
07-15-2005, 04:15 AM
Ledgie Trivia sounds fun actually.

IE: "Which Ledgie cites Ewan MacGregor as his favorite actor?"
Ans: Moony

Keep the questions light and fun and nobody gets hurt. ;)

I also like David's idea for "What's The Weirdest Thing A Ledgie Has Ever Done?"
Whoever runs it, could have Ledgies PM or email them, with their responses to that question. Then it could be a multiple choice.

"Which Ledgie sat on an egg as a 5-year old, hoping to hatch it?"
A. chiliD
B. jwd
C. Johnny Stew

After someone answers it correctly, we'd go on to the next multiple choice question.

(For the record, the answer is "C." :o )

I think that's a wonderful idea. It could be really fun!

trackaghost
07-15-2005, 05:08 AM
Everyone used aliases except you, me, and Lux, I believe. Although Carne's "VacaSurvivor" left nothing to the imagination either.

Brian's right - I shouldn't care - BUT it was oh so delicious to hose them down with my disdain.

But that was why it was so fun! Once you starting arguing with them, they couldn't keep up!

I was registered as trackaghost but I never posted. I was too much of a coward :laugh:

Mari
07-15-2005, 05:15 AM
I was actually invited to come over there ... I don't know why :angel:
I guess I passed the news to too many people and that was the beginning of the end :distress: ;)


(see? you'd think I was serious about my distress until I added the winkey, right? smileys do have their use!)

shackin'up
07-15-2005, 06:55 AM
Are you serious? You're going to be one of the people going "Yay! My friends are so cool and those other people are not!" :blob2: :blob2: Gag me! COME ON. Yo'ure better than that. Hawkeye is young, so he doesn't understand yet how lame popularity contests are, but surely you do!

You completely take a game too serious.
And the fact that I'm 39 and Hawkeye is young does not put ANY valid argument in this this discussion. In fact it's belittling towards him AND me!

apparently I'm not better than this:

You're going to be one of the people going "Yay! My friends are so cool and those other people are not!" :blob2: :blob2: Gag me!

This is a very childish way of looking at a game where we cross swords with words about virtual identities. That's how I look at it and not the superficial, pubic, personal way you look at it..

ForgottenChimp
07-15-2005, 07:44 AM
That's how I look at it and not the superficial, pubic, personal way you look at it..:eek: :laugh:

Sorry, just couldn't not take that one.

shackin'up
07-15-2005, 08:38 AM
:eek: :laugh:

Sorry, just couldn't not take that one.

:lol: :lol: so how do you say that in english? Puberal puberic ? I simply don't know so I "cut" it from the hair :lol: :lol:

cool screenname by the way.

ForgottenChimp
07-15-2005, 09:54 AM
:lol: :lol: so how do you say that in english? Puberal puberic ? I simply don't know so I "cut" it from the hair :lol: :lol::laugh:

cool screenname by the way.Thanks. :)

SuzeQuze
07-15-2005, 10:21 AM
I had to go look him up but isn't that the best picture? Somebody else posted it in the Stevie Overbite Appreciation Thread and I asked her if I could have it for my sig. I immediately fell in love with it. Welander was obviously an awesome photographer and he had a beautiful subject. I can't stop looking at that pic!

It is a beautiful pic and I love the Stevie lyric you posted with it. :nod:

sodascouts
07-15-2005, 10:55 AM
Mwoh. I thought I was pretty transparent too. :shrug: I laughed my ass off for a lot of the posts over there.

I was a little dense in figuring out who was who without help. :o

sodascouts
07-15-2005, 11:03 AM
This is a very childish way of looking at a game where we cross swords with words about virtual identities. That's how I look at it and not the superficial, pubic, personal way you look at it..

Oh, man. I'm trying to keep people from getting hurt, but I'm the childish one. Fine. I give up trying to make you see what's wrong with this game. I guess you were never one of the ones who got made fun of in high school, but some of us were, and I don't want to retun to that mentality. If you do, well, I have to say it surprises me.

P.S. I do hold out the hope that, if this does continue, people will at least be ashamed to act like jerks after reading this thread, and so all we'll see is the sycophantic stuff. While lame, at least it's not hurtful.

skcin
07-15-2005, 11:48 AM
Hawkeye's got his 15 votes, what's he waiting for? :shrug: Just curious.

shackin'up
07-15-2005, 12:03 PM
Oh, man. I'm trying to keep people from getting hurt, but I'm the childish one. Fine. I give up trying to make you see what's wrong with this game. I guess you were never one of the ones who got made fun of in high school, but some of us were, and I don't want to retun to that mentality. If you do, well, I have to say it surprises me.

P.S. I do hold out the hope that, if this does continue, people will at least be ashamed to act like jerks after reading this thread, and so all we'll see is the sycophantic stuff. While lame, at least it's not hurtful.

Oh nancy, I hear what you say and I understand your position but I just want to ventilate another side of the coin. It's just that it does NOT have to be a game where people get hurt if you play it with the right mindset. It's just a reaction from me on the fact that you said " oh Look at me the most popular guy/girl on the board-gag."

That's not my way of looking at it and I think that is OK.
Same thing for your look at it and your concern for people getting hurt.

PS: I WAS made fun of in highschool. But it strengthened me. Like it hurt me too.

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 02:20 PM
PS: I WAS made fun of in highschool. But it strengthened me. Like it hurt me too.I spent many years hurt from the way I was treated in high school, but eventually it strengthened me as well.
But the years of crippling self-doubt and insecurities are exactly why I dislike the idea of this game. Not for myself, but for others.

You view it as a harmless lark, riffing on people's online personas. But some people haven't built up "cyber identities." It's not an act for them.
I don't know about you, but despite my use of a screenname, I'm am what I am -- online or offline.
So it's easy to say that we have tough skins and we can take it... but can we safely say that about everyone? Simply because a person volunteers for the game, it doesn't mean that the potential for them getting hurt deeply isn't there.

Is any game really worth the risk of hurting someone?

darklinensuit
07-15-2005, 02:24 PM
Is any game really worth the risk of hurting someone?

Strip Tiddllywinks is all I can think of. :)

- Jake

ThePenguin
07-15-2005, 02:27 PM
I spent many years hurt from the way I was treated in high school, but eventually it strengthened me as well.
But the years of crippling self-doubt and insecurities are exactly why I dislike the idea of this game. Not for myself, but for others.

You view it as a harmless lark, riffing on people's online personas. But some people haven't built up "cyber identities." It's not an act for them.
I don't know about you, but despite my use of a screenname, I'm am what I am -- online or offline.
So it's easy to say that we have tough skins and we can take it... but can we safely say that about everyone? Simply because a person volunteers for the game, it doesn't mean that the potential for them getting hurt deeply isn't there.

Is any game really worth the risk of hurting someone?

I didn't really want to get involved, but I totally agree w/ this.

-Lis

Johnny Stew
07-15-2005, 02:32 PM
Strip Tiddllywinks is all I can think of. :) Why do I get the feeling I would love hanging out with you, Mr. Jake? ;)

Hawkeye
07-15-2005, 03:56 PM
Hawkeye's got his 15 votes, what's he waiting for? :shrug: Just curious.

Maybe he actually WASN'T on The Ledge for awhile :laugh:. And it seems like you're asking me to start this. OK, lets do it.

Janet
07-16-2005, 01:51 AM
I was actually invited to come over there ... I don't know why :angel:
I guess I passed the news to too many people and that was the beginning of the end :distress: ;)


(see? you'd think I was serious about my distress until I added the winkey, right? smileys do have their use!)

Totally off subject but your smilies change the entire tone of your post. It is facinating to me how useful they can be.

Janet
07-16-2005, 01:52 AM
Maybe he actually WASN'T on The Ledge for awhile :laugh:. And it seems like you're asking me to start this. OK, lets do it.


Ohhh boy.

Can I just ask, are only the people who are involved going to get voted? So those who said " no" are safe from this??

Mari
07-16-2005, 05:46 AM
Totally off subject but your smilies change the entire tone of your post. It is facinating to me how useful they can be.

Exactly! In fact, I think if you use smileys, it shows you're actually BETTER in communicating because you add so much more to a message.

thepoetinmyhear
07-16-2005, 06:36 AM
Maybe he actually WASN'T on The Ledge for awhile :laugh:. And it seems like you're asking me to start this. OK, lets do it.

Seriously I wouldn't even read this thread but numerous folks have told you that this could backfire easily, why still go forward with it publicly? It seems that the suggestion of creating your own google group is the best of both worlds: the drama is self contained and those of us 100% convinced that it will end badly don't have to see the spillover in other threads. Perhaps your sig quote is more prohetic than you originally intended.

Mari
07-16-2005, 12:55 PM
So much drama before it even started! I bet any drama in the actual game can't top this.

Hawkeye
07-16-2005, 02:00 PM
Well, Im scrapping the whole thing now. You all better be freaking happy. BUT I still want to say that what really matters is that "I" was right and you guiys were wrong. We'll never get to see that now, but its true. They're a few people who got it liek Shackin Up and Mari, but the rest of you are... (cant say what I want will get me in trouble)

So, I have another Survivor idea, which I will wait to unveil because of the amount of other Survivors on the board (There really shouldnt be that many at once)

sodascouts
07-16-2005, 11:28 PM
Well, Im scrapping the whole thing now. You all better be freaking happy. BUT I still want to say that what really matters is that "I" was right and you guiys were wrong. We'll never get to see that now, but its true. They're a few people who got it liek Shackin Up and Mari, but the rest of you are... (cant say what I want will get me in trouble)

So, I have another Survivor idea, which I will wait to unveil because of the amount of other Survivors on the board (There really shouldnt be that many at once)

It's very noble of you to scrap it, especially since there was such a high demand at the sign-up. I appreciate you taking into consideration the feelings of the other Ledgies despite this, and not going forward with the game.

BTW could you tell me what exactly you were right about?

Mari
07-17-2005, 02:20 AM
I think it's about being able to take the piss out of yourself and having a sense of humor about that.. but I know what you all think, please don't repeat yourselves.

sodascouts
07-17-2005, 10:18 AM
I think it's about being able to take the piss out of yourself and having a sense of humor about that.. but I know what you all think, please don't repeat yourselves.

Alright. :)

Mari
07-17-2005, 10:36 AM
thank you ;)