Chris Nicks: The New Tour Books

[reebokandlace]

Chris Nicks was in his RV working fastidiously on the new tour book yesterday before the show. :wavey:




"....Well I tried and I came bearing gifts. I guess I should not try again, huh?..." :shrug:



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[littlecricket2]

Hmm...good to know there's gonna be a tour book; not as good to know who's behind it, but hopefully it'll be a good one! Thanks for the heads-up!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Hopefully it's out before the end of the tour...I feel like we waited forever for the SYW tourbook too

[tynan88]

Well maybe Chris can surprise us this tour and be something good...just like everything else on this tour has seemed surreal :)

[GardenStateGirlie]

Well maybe Chris can surprise us this tour and be something good...just like everything else on this tour has seemed surreal :)

If John Kinney is, in fact, the guy taking all of the photography for it, i'm keeping the faith--he's generally pretty decent.

[Jen77]

I talked to Chris after the Detroit Stevie/Don show and he said that every time he gets the tour book almost done, they give him more pictures to add. :rolleyes:

~Jen

[David]

If John Kinney is, in fact, the guy taking all of the photography for it, i'm keeping the faith--he's generally pretty decent.I'm loath to give Kinney props for anything, but I must say the photos he took of Stevie in 1981, 1982 & 1983 (all on his Web site) are fantastic shots. He took that one of Stevie in the cowboy hat (Dallas 9.05.83), among others.

But why do these tourbooks keep arriving so late -- well into the tour or even after it? That's a ridiculous situation that has no good excuse, occurring as it does time after time.

[SpyNote]

But why do these tourbooks keep arriving so late -- well into the tour or even after it? That's a ridiculous situation that has no good excuse, occurring as it does time after time.

So that fans who attended the first two shows of the tour can pay a colossal price for them later on eBay, of course. :rolleyes:

[Glittermoondust]

So that fans who attended the first two shows of the tour can pay a colossal price for them later on eBay, of course. :rolleyes:

That's what I was thinking also :0((( That was the first thing I looked for Friday night and even went out of my way to ask about them........ he had better get those things rolling--I mean the tour is just about half over right?? Unless she adds some more dates........ and there wasn't really a reason not to have them at the Don Henley shows since all of their merchandise was separate anyways......not even one Don and Stevie shirt either (for the Henley shows...)--now THAT I was disappointed about!! They needed to have a special shirt for the "2 voices" shows--come on people!!! That I would have bought in a hearbeat!! :distress:

Amy

[Glittermoondust]

I really do not want to pay a ton for one on e-bay. :distress:

I hear ya on that one!!! SIGH!!

Amy

[sparky]

Chris Nicks was in his RV working fastidiously on the new tour book yesterday before the show.



LORD HAVE MERCY.

With what ? A tub of paste and a pair of blunt nosed scissors ?

[dissention]

LORD HAVE MERCY.

With what ? A tub of paste and a pair of blunt nosed scissors ?

That would require effort. I imagine he's just ripping the photos to fit the desired space and licking the backs to make 'em stick. He'll add the text later on with his super duper Photoshop '95 software.

[GardenStateGirlie]

LORD HAVE MERCY.

With what ? A tub of paste and a pair of blunt nosed scissors ?

You forgot the circa 1990 version of paintshop :wavey: ;)

[desertangel]

That's what I was thinking also :0((( That was the first thing I looked for Friday night and even went out of my way to ask about them........ he had better get those things rolling--I mean the tour is just about half over right?? Unless she adds some more dates........ and there wasn't really a reason not to have them at the Don Henley shows since all of their merchandise was separate anyways......not even one Don and Stevie shirt either (for the Henley shows...)--now THAT I was disappointed about!! They needed to have a special shirt for the "2 voices" shows--come on people!!! That I would have bought in a hearbeat!! :distress:

Amy

You guys, I have a feeling from the tone of the email John sent me re: tour books that he might make them available on nicksfix to people who went to shows and did not get them. (edit: could not get them because they weren't available.) This does not include the Vegas shows. Those people only get "ugly" tshirts.

Laura

[Glittermoondust]

You guys, I have a feeling from the tone of the email John sent me re: tour books that he might make them available on nicksfix to people who went to shows and did not get them. (edit: could not get them because they weren't available.) This does not include the Vegas shows. Those people only get "ugly" tshirts.

Laura

Oooo--I hope so :)

Amy

[trackaghost]

You guys, I have a feeling from the tone of the email John sent me re: tour books that he might make them available on nicksfix to people who went to shows and did not get them. (edit: could not get them because they weren't available.) This does not include the Vegas shows. Those people only get "ugly" tshirts.

Laura

Well that sucks. I am losing respect for Mr Kinney by the minute. Why can't the Vegas people get them too?
*sigh* Remember when the Nicksfix was worth looking at?

[LikeAWillow]

Well that sucks. I am losing respect for Mr Kinney by the minute. Why can't the Vegas people get them too?
*sigh* Remember when the Nicksfix was worth looking at?

The Nicksfix was worth looking at once? Wow, this is what I get for coming into my stevie fandom late :rolleyes:

~Marissa~

[tlssln]

Chris Nicks was in his RV working fastidiously on the new tour book yesterday before the show. :wavey:




"....Well I tried and I came bearing gifts. I guess I should not try again, huh?..." :shrug:



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I hope that doesn't mean there will be another half-assed tourbook. I hope they put some new pics of her in it too. The ones from 2001 are way too old. She looks phenomenal these days so why not photograph the woman?

[thepoetinmyhear]

The Nicksfix was worth looking at once? Wow, this is what I get for coming into my stevie fandom late :rolleyes:

~Marissa~

Actually before it became the official site, it was THE site to go to for news and photos and info. During that period the nicksfix actuallly became my homepage because of all the good info Mr. Kinney used to be allowed to provide. Then he became the official site and we all were psyched because he (like the penguin) had earned that right to be recognized as the official site. Sadly though, this stopped him from being able to post rumors and show spoilers and photos and... quickly the Nicksfix fell from being the best fansite to being a slightly better than most official site.

However, shortly after becoming the official site and before artist direct, the nicksfix had a store, and that store did sell tourbooks (rock a little, timespace, and enchanted, I believe this was prior to TISL) and tour merchandise. So now that Stevie doesn't do artist direct, maybe they can/will bring it back briefly.

[LiquidBlue5000]

Actually before it became the official site, it was THE site to go to for news and photos and info. During that period the nicksfix actuallly became my homepage because of all the good info Mr. Kinney used to be allowed to provide. Then he became the official site and we all were psyched because he (like the penguin) had earned that right to be recognized as the official site. Sadly though, this stopped him from being able to post rumors and show spoilers and photos and... quickly the Nicksfix fell from being the best fansite to being a slightly better than most official site.


i used to go there every day.. now, maybe once a week.. and thats usually just to check on a tourdate or something :lol:

[reebokandlace]

Well hopefully they will be ready for the Atlantic City show! I don't think they could possibly be printed and ready to go for Cinci...


:rolleyes:

[GODDESS6]

I heard somewhere (I think Don Henley may have said it) that Stevie was doing so many shows.. but only so many dates have been released. I think we have like 25 more shows that we don't know the dates/venues for yet. So let's hope that we get some good cities and a decent tourbook. I was really bummed out because I thought for sure there would be one on Monday, but alas I was disappointed. I really do not want to pay a ton for one on e-bay. :distress:
i heard this also, don said stevie was planning on doing 45 dates, but who really knows :shrug: ~

[DeeGeMe]

Man, I hope that they do sell the tourbooks. It does not look like I'm going to be able to make it to a show and I really, really want to buy some tour merchandise!

[DavidMn]

Hopefully it's out before the end of the tour...I feel like we waited forever for the SYW tourbook too
I remember the first show I went to that they were available was CHicago on 9-13-03. WHen I walked into the venue and saw them, I about SH##. FINally I shouted. LoL :laugh:

[DavidMn]

[QUOTE=thepoetinmyhear]Actually before it became the official site, it was THE site to go to for news and photos and info. During that period the nicksfix actuallly became my homepage because of all the good info Mr. Kinney used to be allowed to provide. Then he became the official site and we all were psyched because he (like the penguin) had earned that right to be recognized as the official site. Sadly though, this stopped him from being able to post rumors and show spoilers and photos and... quickly the Nicksfix fell from being the best fansite to being a slightly better than most official site.

However, shortly after becoming the official site and before artist direct, the nicksfix had a store, and that store did sell tourbooks (rock a little, timespace, and enchanted, I believe this was prior to TISL) and tour merchandise. So now that Stevie doesn't do artist direct, maybe they can/will bring it back briefly.[/QUOI know what you mean, but you have to understand that in order to be an "Official" site, u gotta kiss up to her management. I would personally prefer an unofficial site. u get more info that way it seems. But I think John does a good job with what he has

[David]

Actually before it became the official site, it was THE site to go to for news and photos and info.There were always other good sites, too, as far as I'm concerned: I would rattle them off if I could remember their names or locations.
During that period the nicksfix actuallly became my homepage because of all the good info Mr. Kinney used to be allowed to provide.Like a good many other site owners, Kinney was able to post good stuff because other people supplied him. He didn't start concocting all that data on his own -- people sent it to him. This idea that people have that Kinney dug up all that data on his very own is just not what happened. A good fan site -- like that one, like this one -- relies on submissions by the community of fans. Hundreds of people contributing data is always going to be more comprehensive than one lone cowboy doing it all himself.

[reebokandlace]

I hope that doesn't mean there will be another half-assed tourbook. I hope they put some new pics of her in it too. The ones from 2001 are way too old. She looks phenomenal these days so why not photograph the woman?


I would assume he is using pictures that were taken opening night in Grand Rapids.

[LeighB04]

OK, that Cruise/Winfrey thing made me piddle a liddle.... With the caption about psychiatry - just perfect!

[LiquidBlue5000]

OK, that Cruise/Winfrey thing made me piddle a liddle.... With the caption about psychiatry - just perfect!

without a doubt the best signature pic ever!! :laugh: :thumbsup:

[desertangel]

Well that sucks. I am losing respect for Mr Kinney by the minute. Why can't the Vegas people get them too?
*sigh* Remember when the Nicksfix was worth looking at?

The original email he sent me is long gone, although the thread should still be around here somewhere... this is almost verbatim... if he is able to make tour books available thru the website, it would only be to the people who attended 2 Voices or Gold Dust shows where tour books were not yet available, afterall that is why they're called "tour" books and Vegas was not a tour. :cool: oh my.

So I think what happened is since nicksfix became official, John is no longer able to post any information unless it comes from the camp. And it seems the camp in some ways is not too organized when it comes to things like keeping the website updated and merchandising. Wonder if those are Chris's areas of responsibility.. LOL!!! :sorry: :D

I still love the nicksfix because you do get things like Q&As, random handwritten notes and journal entries and the occassional rarely seen hi-res photo. :thumbsup:

Laura

[Glittermoondust]

The original email he sent me is long gone, although the thread should still be around here somewhere... this is almost verbatim... if he is able to make tour books available thru the website, it would only be to the people who attended 2 Voices or Gold Dust shows where tour books were not yet available, afterall that is why they're called "tour" books and Vegas was not a tour. :cool: oh my.

So I think what happened is since nicksfix became official, John is no longer able to post any information unless it comes from the camp. And it seems the camp in some ways is not too organized when it comes to things like keeping the website updated and merchandising. Wonder if those are Chris's areas of responsibility.. LOL!!! :sorry: :D

I still love the nicksfix because you do get things like Q&As, random handwritten notes and journal entries and the occassional rarely seen hi-res photo. :thumbsup:

Laura

How would they prove whether you were at a show or not??? Would you have to show them a ticket stub or something?? I don't see how they could do that :shrug:

Amy

[catinthedark]

The original email he sent me is long gone, although the thread should still be around here somewhere... this is almost verbatim... if he is able to make tour books available thru the website, it would only be to the people who attended 2 Voices or Gold Dust shows where tour books were not yet available, afterall that is why they're called "tour" books and Vegas was not a tour. :cool: oh my.

So I think what happened is since nicksfix became official, John is no longer able to post any information unless it comes from the camp. And it seems the camp in some ways is not too organized when it comes to things like keeping the website updated and merchandising. Wonder if those are Chris's areas of responsibility.. LOL!!! :sorry: :D

I still love the nicksfix because you do get things like Q&As, random handwritten notes and journal entries and the occassional rarely seen hi-res photo. :thumbsup:

Laura

And he would demand PROOF of what show you went to? If this is the case, he's a total creep.

[catinthedark]

I would assume he is using pictures that were taken opening night in Grand Rapids.

That is a very optimistic assumption on your part! :laugh:

Hope you're right, but with the level of organization and commitment this clown has shown towards getting things done on time, I expect we'll be lucky if it includes photos of her from the SA era...

[ELIUD]

Selling the tourbooks only to people who attended the Two Voices/Gold Dust concerts is just plain stupid, I'm not saying he didn't say it or suggest it - I'm just saying it's not very business savy. Why wouldn't they want to sell to anybody who would buy one? And like someone just said, how the hell would they know you didn't go?

:ring ring:
asshole selling books: hello?
eager young fan: Yes I'd like to order a tourbook please!
asb: Did you attend any of the shows during the Two Voices/God Dust tour?
eyf: No, but I went to see her in Vegas, gambled, lost all my money, my home, and my job but was able to save enough cash for the tourbook. I love Stevie very much and...
asb: sorry, you can't have one.
:click:

:ring ring:
asb: hello?
bootlegger/scalper dude: Hi, I attended a show on the Gold Dust tour and would love to order a tourbook to sell on ebay for a billion dollars.
asb: prove it.
b/sd: I can send you a copy of the show I bootlegged and receipts of all the money I made selling them to fans!
asb: how many tourbooks would you like?

[seeker007nmss]

Selling the tourbooks only to people who attended the Two Voices/Gold Dust concerts is just plain stupid, I'm not saying he didn't say it or suggest it - I'm just saying it's not very business savy. Why wouldn't they want to sell to anybody who would buy one? And like someone just said, how the hell would they know you didn't go?

:ring ring:
asshole selling books: hello?
eager young fan: Yes I'd like to order a tourbook please!
asb: Did you attend any of the shows during the Two Voices/God Dust tour?
eyf: No, but I went to see her in Vegas, gambled, lost all my money, my home, and my job but was able to save enough cash for the tourbook. I love Stevie very much and...
asb: sorry, you can't have one.
:click:

:ring ring:
asb: hello?
bootlegger/scalper dude: Hi, I attended a show on the Gold Dust tour and would love to order a tourbook to sell on ebay for a billion dollars.
asb: prove it.
b/sd: I can send you a copy of the show I bootlegged and receipts of all the money I made selling them to fans!
asb: how many tourbooks would you like?


:laugh: :lol: :p Bravo!!

[reebokandlace]

I guess the tour books weren't ready for Cinci.... :distress: ...maybe by Atlantic City? Tampa? West Coast? :laugh:

[DeeGeMe]

Does anybody besides me worry that there won't be a tourbook?

[GardenStateGirlie]

Does anybody besides me worry that there won't be a tourbook?

Not as much as I worry it'll be yet another tour around her Phoenix house with wishings for a safe and happy new year from Stevie and Chris! Oh wait, that was Enchanted.

I'm sure there will be one--I just doubt we'll see it until mid July, IMO.

[equeen102289]

When I talked to Chris in Detroit, he said he was working hard on getting them done...I mean, how long does it take though?? I have to take into consideration though, that he did say he was the only one working on them, and he had no help...

[skcin]

...with wishings for a safe and happy new year from Stevie and Chris! Oh wait, that was Enchanted.




THAT was weird. :nod:

[Elizabeth]

I have to take into consideration though, that he did say he was the only one working on them, and he had no help...

I wish there was a smiley playing the violin!

[skcin]

I wish there was a smiley playing the violin!


Yeah. Boo****inghoo. :rolleyes:

[sparky]

Does anybody besides me worry that there won't be a tourbook?

I suspect there will be one....late. And that it will be an embarrassment for all parties involved.

[ELIUD]

When I talked to Chris in Detroit, he said he was working hard on getting them done...I mean, how long does it take though?? I have to take into consideration though, that he did say he was the only one working on them, and he had no help...

Actually from my experience in printing, he would be required to reserve printing presses and a bindery at the plant he's using. So if he could design it quickly and meet whatever deadline he set up, it shouldn't take more than a week after to get them trucked to the next city on the schedule. If he's missing deadlines over and over, it just costs him more money to print them.

[tlssln]

Whoever said it was optimistic to think Chris Nicks was using pictures from the Grand Rapids show for the tourbook, I say LOL. My thoughts exactly.

[GardenStateGirlie]

it just costs him more money to print them.

I'm sorry, him?? :laugh:

[sparky]

It's all so amateurish. It doesn't take that long. I have a buddy who designs stuff like this on small scales and grand. He has gotten projects like special edition cd boxes on the scale of the Enchanted box and pulled them together in less than a week. Designed in three days -fed ex'd, approved, off to the printer, ready for the store in three weeks or less.
It's not like this tour is some big assed surprise. And it isn't as if the people involved don't have access to original artwork, record company publicity photos, privates archives, ad nauseam. The ultimate answer may be that it just isn't that lucrative to do it.....but I doubt even that, as they have been doing this for YEARS. They have longstanding relationships with printers. They could pull favors and get price breaks. And they could charge a fortune for garbage - they know that too. Look no further than the TISL tour book.
I submit it is laziness, lack of ambition, and stupidity.

[Elizabeth]

I have a buddy who designs stuff like this on small scales and grand. He has gotten projects like special edition cd boxes on the scale of the Enchanted box and pulled them together in less than a week. Designed in three days -fed ex'd, approved, off to the printer, ready for the store in three weeks or less..

And let me just say that we in the printing industry appreciate having to have everything done the next day after the designer(s) and whoever needs to approve the designs have sat on it for weeks :rolleyes: :D

[reebokandlace]

I don't understand why the tour books can not be printed after the first rehearsal.....it doesn't make sense.

The entire book should have be planned out and ready to go even before the tour starts, once the "live" pictures are added it should have been ready to go.

It is easy to point fingers at Chris because merchandise IS his department. But I am not sure who to blame for this delay. Stevie HAS to be aware year after year that the tour books are not ready until the tour is half over. You would think she would say something to her brother. Or is she the one holding it up? When she wants something, she gets it. It seems La Nicks just doesn't care whether or not the books are ready.

[sparky]

And let me just say that we in the printing industry appreciate having to have everything done the next day after the designer(s) and whoever needs to approve the designs have sat on it for weeks :rolleyes: :D

That's what rush charges are for. :thumbsup:

My point is, there is no excuse for them not being done. It's possible to get things done quickly.