For those tired with Tom Cruise..

[madformac]

Here is a little story from last night in London for all those Ledgies that are rather tired of the Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes media coverage..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4107922.stm

Four members of a freelance camera crew were arrested at the War of the Worlds premiere in London after its star Tom Cruise was squirted with water. The 42-year-old actor's face and jacket were drenched with water squirted from what appeared to be a microphone.

The crew was working for Channel 4, which said it hoped Cruise would see the funny side of the stunt which was for a new comedy show. The four men were arrested on suspicion of assault and later released on bail.

Cruise - who attended the premiere with his new fiancee Katie Holmes - was talking to journalists in Leicester Square when he was squirted with water. The star struggled to keep his composure as he repeatedly called one of the journalists a "jerk". He said: "That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that, it's incredibly rude." The actor held the interviewer until security guards arrived and then towelled himself down before signing more autographs.

You can link to a video of the incident on the webpage above.

[trackaghost]

I thought that was appalling.
To be fair to Cruise, he's always great at premieres, spending ages talking to the press and public alike. That prank was just uncalled for.

[DownOnRodeo]

Nothing makes me more irate than those jerky TV shows where grown men do their best to act with less maturity than a playgroup of toddlers. There was a similar one in Britain not too long ago - some guy going around and harassing celebrities like Cruise with dumb-ass questions. Shame on the TV channels for hiring these dweebs.

[madformac]

There was a similar one in Britain not too long ago - some guy going around and harassing celebrities like Cruise with dumb-ass questions. Shame on the TV channels for hiring these dweebs.

Dennis Pennis...

He was an ass to most celebs although I do remember a couple of funny moments.. He asked a well known politician a question and instead of putting the microphone to his mouth he put it to his ass when he spoke.. The other one I remember was him running behind Barry Manilow in Hyde Park carrying a white sheet chanting "Barry, you dropped your handkerchief!"

As for the Cruise thing, it was totally immature and goes to show how easy it is to attack a celebrity. Cruise is known for taking literally hours to talk to fans in Leicester Square and it would be unfortunate if he stopped doing it now, although I don't think this show of "Jackass" culture will stop him in the future.. He does give up a lot of time for the UK fans.

[ryan8472]

Oh c'mon, it isn't that bad. It's not like he was hurt or anything.

[cliffdweller]

The 42-year-old actor's face and jacket were drenched with water squirted from what appeared to be a microphone.

:laugh: I'm sorry but this really makes me giggle.

"That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that, it's incredibly rude."

Gee, this sounds familiar...Nicole, is that you?

[strandinthewind]

I think anytime anyone throws anything at anyone else in that setting - it is just uncalled for. I mean who would like that done to them.

[madformac]

I think anytime anyone throws anything at anyone else in that setting - it is just uncalled for. I mean who would like that done to them.

If some stranger had squirted water at me I probably wouldn't have been as restrained as Cruise. I must admit he handled it very well considering quite a few celebrities might have gone straight for the nearest security meathead for protection. I think the fact the attacker really couldn't answer back when Cruise challenged him shows it was the act of a childish person.

The only odd thing to me was Cruise's immediate reaction, he laughed and then he got serious right after which was a bit odd.. :shrug:

[cliffdweller]

The only odd thing to me was Cruise's immediate reaction, he laughed and then he got serious right after which was a bit odd.. :shrug:

That's because he's crazy :nod:.

[catinthedark]

As much as the whole Tom and Katie thing turns my stomach, I think the stunt was rude and the guy deserved to be arrested.

There's a little group of a$$holes in this country who go around throwing pies in the faces of unsuspecting politicians. The first few leaders who got hit - and it is always a surprise - were very good sports about it, and laughed it off. But then one of them pressed assault charges, as did the next. And eventually, the idiots were convicted. It may sound like a harmless prank, but the reality is, who knows what someone might be hiding something in the tin plate full of cream? One minute you're shaking a hand, the next you are blind-sided and hit in the face? I think it's ludicrous.

[cliffdweller]

As much as the whole Tom and Katie thing turns my stomach, I think the stunt was rude and the guy deserved to be arrested.

There's a little group of a$$holes in this country who go around throwing pies in the faces of unsuspecting politicians. The first few leaders who got hit - and it is always a surprise - were very good sports about it, and laughed it off. But then one of them pressed assault charges, as did the next. And eventually, the idiots were convicted. It may sound like a harmless prank, but the reality is, who knows what someone might be hiding something in the tin plate full of cream? One minute you're shaking a hand, the next you are blind-sided and hit in the face? I think it's ludicrous.

I thought it was hilarious when Arnold S. got pelted with eggs. Or was that Dubbya? Either way it's hysterical.

[trackaghost]

Oh c'mon, it isn't that bad. It's not like he was hurt or anything.

It was harmless in a way. BUT Cruise didn't have to talk to those guys. He was doing them a favour by answering their questions.
I don't like Cruise at all, but I still think it was out of order.
Plus, I hate that kind of humour that attempts to get laughs by embarrassing or humiliating people. I think it's kind of pathetic. At least with Jackass, they're taking the piss out of themselves.

[amber]

That's because he's crazy :nod:.
It's because he's polite, actually.

[madformac]

It's because he's polite, actually.

Yes, credit where it's due. Cruise is one of the politest major actors when it comes to interviews and fans. I can't remember which film it was, I think Minority Report, he spent two and a half hours outside the Odeon in Leicester Square talking to fans, signing things and chatting on cell phones. The only other major star that is as polite is Tom Hanks, another gent.

BTW,

Amber, I love that picture in your sig! It's the best one yet... An "in motion" shot.. :laugh: :laugh: Can u mail it it me? I want it as a wallpaper! :nod:

:wavey:

[SuzeQuze]

Yes, credit where it's due. Cruise is one of the politest major actors when it comes to interviews and fans. I can't remember which film it was, I think Minority Report, he spent two and a half hours outside the Odeon in Leicester Square talking to fans, signing things and chatting on cell phones. The only other major star that is as polite is Tom Hanks, another gent.

BTW,

Amber, I love that picture in your sig! It's the best one yet... An "in motion" shot.. :laugh: :laugh: Can u mail it it me? I want it as a wallpaper! :nod:

:wavey:

That shot is adorable! My roommate bought Mufy (my cat) a mouse yesterday and forgot to give it to him. Then she saw him running around with something in his mouth. He stole the mouse right out of her purse! Oh he is funny. :laugh:

[madformac]

That shot is adorable! My roommate bought Mufy (my cat) a mouse yesterday and forgot to give it to him. Then she saw him running around with something in his mouth. He stole the mouse right out of her purse! Oh he is funny. :laugh:

I love cats, had my last one for 17 years.. He was huge (not fat just big). He was called Pepsi.

I don't have the time to devote to a cat right now so I don't have a proper pet anymore, although I have about 30 or so fish outside in the pond..

[amber]

Yes, credit where it's due. Cruise is one of the politest major actors when it comes to interviews and fans. I can't remember which film it was, I think Minority Report, he spent two and a half hours outside the Odeon in Leicester Square talking to fans, signing things and chatting on cell phones. The only other major star that is as polite is Tom Hanks, another gent.

BTW,

Amber, I love that picture in your sig! It's the best one yet... An "in motion" shot.. :laugh: :laugh: Can u mail it it me? I want it as a wallpaper! :nod:

:wavey:
haha, thanks! yeah, he had just batted that white ball you see to the left. You really want it? sure I can mail it to you... :shrug:

Suze - Mufy's a good boy! Found his own mouse! :lol: *sneaky sneaky*

Yeah, it's nice Tom didn't "Russel Crowe" that guy...

[madformac]

You really want it? sure I can mail it to you... :shrug:



Sure, it's the motion and the angle you caught... I snorted juice all over the desk as I laughed when I saw it... :lol:

Cheers..

[skcin]

BTW,

Amber, I love that picture in your sig! It's the best one yet... An "in motion" shot.. :laugh: :laugh: Can u mail it it me? I want it as a wallpaper! :nod:

:wavey:


ITA - LOVE it, Amber! :nod:

[dissention]

Here is a little story from last night in London for all those Ledgies that are rather tired of the Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes media coverage..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4107922.stm

Four members of a freelance camera crew were arrested at the War of the Worlds premiere in London after its star Tom Cruise was squirted with water. The 42-year-old actor's face and jacket were drenched with water squirted from what appeared to be a microphone.

The crew was working for Channel 4, which said it hoped Cruise would see the funny side of the stunt which was for a new comedy show. The four men were arrested on suspicion of assault and later released on bail.

Cruise - who attended the premiere with his new fiancee Katie Holmes - was talking to journalists in Leicester Square when he was squirted with water. The star struggled to keep his composure as he repeatedly called one of the journalists a "jerk". He said: "That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that, it's incredibly rude." The actor held the interviewer until security guards arrived and then towelled himself down before signing more autographs.

You can link to a video of the incident on the webpage above.

That's rather revolting. Regardless if Cruise and Holmes are the most obnoxious people on the face of the Earth right now, it still doesn't excuse that kind of thing.

Kind of ironic how this happened just after my beloved Nicole was excoriated by the paparazzi at the Bewitched premiere. :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

I love cats, had my last one for 17 years.. He was huge (not fat just big). He was called Pepsi.

I don't have the time to devote to a cat right now so I don't have a proper pet anymore, although I have about 30 or so fish outside in the pond..

Aw, cute. I hope Mufy lives to be at least 20. Although I know that's a loong life for a kitty, it's possible!

You have a fish pond that you stock?

Get 2 cats that way they have each other when you are not around. Unless it is for days on end or something.

[SuzeQuze]

haha, thanks! yeah, he had just batted that white ball you see to the left. You really want it? sure I can mail it to you... :shrug:

Suze - Mufy's a good boy! Found his own mouse! :lol: *sneaky sneaky*

Yeah, it's nice Tom didn't "Russel Crowe" that guy...

Yes, Mufy is "twicky".

[madformac]

You have a fish pond that you stock?

Get 2 cats that way they have each other when you are not around. Unless it is for days on end or something.

No I don't stock it. It's a reasonable size but not huge or anything.. I had about 7 or 8 large Comets and Shubumkins but the randy buggers bred last year and I've got about 30-35 fish in there now.. They are getting frisky again right now... Here's a picture attached from 5 minutes ago....

[cliffdweller]

It's because he's polite, actually.

Yeah, I was kinda kidding around even though I do think he's one wacky m.f.. What I REALLY think is that he just had a to take a few minutes to process the situation like anyone would.

It's the whole scenario that makes this particular incident funny not the fact that T.C. got sprayed with water. Actually, that on its own is not even really funny, it's really more the fact that this was a lame joke concocted by some jackass who thought that it would be the height of hilarity to spray Tom Cruise with a microphone that spews water :laugh:, THEN said jackass gets arrested for it. I'm sorry, but that is a total hoot in my book. Tom is really only incidental here.

And the mental image I conjured when I first read the story was pretty funny. So sue me, I contend that it was a harmless reflex :laugh:!

[SuzeQuze]

No I don't stock it. It's a reasonable size but not huge or anything.. I had about 7 or 8 large Comets and Shubumkins but the randy buggers bred last year and I've got about 30-35 fish in there now.. They are getting frisky again right now... Here's a picture attached from 5 minutes ago....

Gorgeous, I love it. Is the netting to protect the fish from predators? "randy buggers" :lol:

[madformac]

Gorgeous, I love it. Is the netting to protect the fish from predators? "randy buggers" :lol:

The net protects the fish from, funnily enough, the neighbours cats! :laugh:
But it also stops any local herons from getting their dinner from my pond.. Plus it also stops the fish from dying if they jump out of the pond when they get frisky. :thumbsup:

It's a shame, I would rather have no net but it's better for the fish..

[gldstwmn]

That's because he's crazy :nod:.

Yup. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Serrart]

I thought that was appalling.
To be fair to Cruise, he's always great at premieres, spending ages talking to the press and public alike. That prank was just uncalled for.

I totally agree, it was a really stupid gesture. He's great with the public at premieres. Even I can see that. :nod:

Romy

[BTFLCHLD]

not funny at all... :(

[dissention]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/320071p-273727c.html

So here's what I'm hearing about that relationship.

A source VERY close to the deal is saying there's a contract.

It's worth $5 million.

It's for five years.

There will be no sex.

The deal was sealed June 7.

That's what I'm hearing.

[dudden22]

I agree that the reporter was a jackass. That being said I am tired of Tom being such a baby about everything. I mean he got sprayed with water at his movie premier, get the f*ck over it, go back to your mansion and shut it.

[GODDESS6]

I thought that was appalling.
To be fair to Cruise, he's always great at premieres, spending ages talking to the press and public alike. That prank was just uncalled for.
yeah even tho i don't really like tom, this was sucha low blow, you could tell tom was pissed when he called the guy a jerk, but i was impressed w/ how he was able to keep his composure, the reporter is lucky he only got arrested, if they did that to russell crowe, they woulda prolly been beaten down w/ a cell phone :lol: ~

[amber]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/320071p-273727c.html

So here's what I'm hearing about that relationship.

A source VERY close to the deal is saying there's a contract.

It's worth $5 million.

It's for five years.

There will be no sex.

The deal was sealed June 7.

That's what I'm hearing.

I don't deny all that, even though I love Tom. Really, I just feel sad for him, because I think he's a pretty good person (scientology notwithstanding, though I think he likes it because he wants to help himself be a better person), and I feel bad for him that someone seemingly pretty decent has to hide his sexuality because of society's negative imposition. :( I feel like some of his strange and negative actions are almost solely because of this stricture. :shrug: *hoping I didn't make up the word stricture* Anyway, I can see how some don't like him and that's he's not the best actor ever, but still I hold my point. :)
Amber "Lone Tom Liker" G. :lol:

[dissention]

I don't deny all that, even though I love Tom. Really, I just feel sad for him, because I think he's a pretty good person (scientology notwithstanding, though I think he likes it because he wants to help himself be a better person), and I feel bad for him that someone seemingly pretty decent has to hide his sexuality because of society's negative imposition. :( I feel like some of his strange and negative actions are almost solely because of this stricture. :shrug: *hoping I didn't make up the word stricture* Anyway, I can see how some don't like him and that's he's not the best actor ever, but still I hold my point. :)
Amber "Lone Tom Liker" G. :lol:

It's all a matter of whether he puts more stock in his career or being true to himself in regards to his sexuality. Any man who would pay a woman and contract a woman for beard services is deeply insecure and it is actually sad. I feel bad for him. I also feel bad for him because he doesn't seem to know what kind of damage his current behavior is causing because of the simple fact tha the didn't act like such a tard when he was with the lovely Kidman. It's jarring to people.

And I just read that Batman only made $46 million. I bet TomKat had something to do with such poor returns, which sucks and it doesn't bode well for War of the Worlds...

[amber]

It's all a matter of whether he puts more stock in his career or being true to himself in regards to his sexuality. Any man who would pay a woman and contract a woman for beard services is deeply insecure and it is actually sad. I feel bad for him. I also feel bad for him because he doesn't seem to know what kind of damage his current behavior is causing because of the simple fact tha the didn't act like such a tard when he was with the lovely Kidman. It's jarring to people.

And I just read that Batman only made $46 million. I bet TomKat had something to do with such poor returns, which sucks and it doesn't bode well for War of the Worlds...
I somewhat agree, but I also think throughout his life it would have been an incredible challenge for him to be true to himself and still had the career he has had. I tend to agree about the beard service, but, with the choices he's made, I would think it would be nearly impossible not to do the same, sadly. At this point he's just been a great planner. :rolleyes:
I am sad, too, that he is acting kind of like a tard right now. I'm also very suprised. I guess, and I'm sad again for the fact that you can only keep that kind of thing under wraps for so long. I truly hope that soon, because of the different climate, he will feel he can be more honest with the world. I hope he's smart enough to avoid a giant stupid scandal in favor of revealing the truth. But, I kind of doubt it. Just thinking about the nature of the career he has built has me shuddering, so I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. :shrug:
But, if he did have the courage, I think - it would be a huge boon to....I dunno. This might sound dumb, but I think he's kind of the Rock Hudson of now. Like, people who don't know would never be able to imagine him in certain ways. You know, all his roles are so...Manly/Sporty. But, if they could, wouldn't that be wonderful?
To conclude, I think he is somewhat insecure, but mainly because, in a way, he has had to be. Also I think he is basically pretty decent.
okay, Rant Over. :sorry:
Oh, and P.S. - I think it's a given that TC has put all his stock into his career. Everything he has. So. And he has had an exceptional career.

[dissention]

I somewhat agree, but I also think throughout his life it would have been an incredible challenge for him to be true to himself and still had the career he has had.

Nothing is stopping him now. His days as a huge box office star are numbered. Maybe that's why the contract was only for five years instead of the ten with nicole. :laugh:

I am sad, too, that he is acting kind of like a tard right now. I'm also very suprised. I guess, and I'm sad again for the fact that you can only keep that kind of thing under wraps for so long. I truly hope that soon, because of the different climate, he will feel he can be more honest with the world. I hope he's smart enough to avoid a giant stupid scandal in favor of revealing the truth. But, I kind of doubt it. Just thinking about the nature of the career he has built has me shuddering, so I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. :shrug:
But, if he did have the courage, I think - it would be a huge boon to....I dunno. This might sound dumb, but I think he's kind of the Rock Hudson of now. Like, people who don't know would never be able to imagine him in certain ways. You know, all his roles are so...Manly/Sporty. But, if they could, wouldn't that be wonderful?
To conclude, I think he is somewhat insecure, but mainly because, in a way, he has had to be. Also I think he is basically pretty decent.
okay, Rant Over. :sorry:
Oh, and P.S. - I think it's a given that TC has put all his stock into his career. Everything he has. So. And he has had an exceptional career.

He's going overboard nowadays, though, and it's freaking the flabby asses of moviegoers everywhere. :laugh:

At this point, if he wants to come out, more power to him. But I truly believe that he's making it worse for himself when the day finally comes that he's "outed" by doing all this stuff.

[tuigirl]

I find it all rather disturbing that there "seem" to be some willing participants in all this contract business(if indeed this is whats happening) Dosn't say much about their (Nicole, Katie) morals at all.Would you "marry" for money, notariaty,( no sex/ sex with TC....I imagine, this could appeal... ;) ) a movie career..all at the expence of self worth, I dunno, I couldn't.All the pretence would drive me nuts.

[Chain of Chains]

I somewhat agree, but I also think throughout his life it would have been an incredible challenge for him to be true to himself and still had the career he has had. I tend to agree about the beard service, but, with the choices he's made, I would think it would be nearly impossible not to do the same, sadly. At this point he's just been a great planner. :rolleyes:
I am sad, too, that he is acting kind of like a tard right now. I'm also very suprised. I guess, and I'm sad again for the fact that you can only keep that kind of thing under wraps for so long. I truly hope that soon, because of the different climate, he will feel he can be more honest with the world. I hope he's smart enough to avoid a giant stupid scandal in favor of revealing the truth. But, I kind of doubt it. Just thinking about the nature of the career he has built has me shuddering, so I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. :shrug:
But, if he did have the courage, I think - it would be a huge boon to....I dunno. This might sound dumb, but I think he's kind of the Rock Hudson of now. Like, people who don't know would never be able to imagine him in certain ways. You know, all his roles are so...Manly/Sporty. But, if they could, wouldn't that be wonderful?


Forgive my ignorance, but why DO so many peoples claim TC is gay? Is there proof or something? Is this just a guess, or a hunch?

I am not a fan of his, but I just never understood how all these accusation got started in the first place. He does not seem gay at all to me. He does not seem the least bit effeminate to me either, does he to you? (I know that that is not a prerequisite)

Have I missed something? Has he been linked to male lovers? Are people just assuming? What is the basis of these claims that he is gay?

Why would Nichole play along with this, what would be in it for her? She is gorgeous and could probably get any man she wanted, why would she want to be in that situation?

Thanks for any insight you can share with me on this one. This has always baffled me. There has to be more to the story that I am not aware of.

[dissention]

Why would Nichole play along with this, what would be in it for her? She is gorgeous and could probably get any man she wanted...

I know, she'd just have to ring me up and I'd crawl on my hands and knees right over to her.

In any event, rumours of Cruise being gay have been around since the eighties, it's nothing new. What would be in it for Nicole and Katie to play his beard? Money and good movie parts for one.

On another note, this is how ridiculous TomKat has become: four bloody articles on them in one morning on the Internet Movie Database.

http://imdb.com/news/wenn/2005-06-21/

Cruise "Tried To Convert Johansson"
Scarlett Johansson pulled out of appearing in the second Mission: Impossible sequel after Tom Cruise tried to convert her to scientology, according to reports. Cruise, who produces the action adventures, met with Johansson ahead of casting for the upcoming Mission: Impossible 3 and took her to one of the controversial religion's headquarters, claims Radarmagazine.Com. A source tells the website, "After two hours of proselytizing, Cruise opened a door to reveal a second room full of upper-level Scientologists who had been waiting to dine with the pair, at which point the cool-headed ingénue politely excused herself." Officially Johansson quit the film because of scheduling conflicts after the film was delayed so Cruise could make War Of The Worlds.

Spielberg Defends Cruise's Love Declarations
Movie-maker Steven Spielberg has leapt to the defense of newly-engaged superstar Tom Cruise, after weeks of media and public criticism of the actor's over-enthusiastic declarations of love for fiancee Katie Holmes. The 42-year-old film hunk shocked America when he punched the air repeatedly and jumped on Oprah Winfrey's famous sofa, while laughing manically as he shouted, "I'm in love" on the May 23 episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show. Nearly two weeks later he repeated his couch-surfing antics on Jay Leno's Tonight Show, saying, "When I start to think about her, things happen. So, cease talking." Subsequent polls in People and Us Weekly show a majority of readers believe the couple's romance is a publicity stunt to promote their latest films - Cruise's War Of The Worlds and Holmes' Batman Begins. But in an interview with Newsweek magazine, director Spielberg lashed out at claims he and Paramount Pictures were concerned Cruise's public displays of affection would negatively affect the sci-fi epic. Spielberg says, "I was a little upset. I was a little upset (at the media attention). Not at Tom, but at the press for making such a big deal out of a kind of small thing. Tom lost his cool because he was deliriously happy, and now he was being punished for his public display of happiness. What Tom did on Oprah was exactly what Tom did with me when he first told me about Katie Holmes. But the press didn't like the way Tom bared his soul." Cruise proposed to Holmes in the early hours of Friday morning at the Eiffel Tower in Paris, France.

Cruise Pranksters Released on Bail
The four practical jokers arrested for squirting Tom Cruise with water at the London premiere of War Of The Worlds were released on police bail yesterday. The film crew, who performed the prank for an upcoming comedy show to be broadcast by British TV network Channel 4, have been ordered to report back to police on July 4 and could be charged with assault if Cruise decides to take the matter further. The 42-year-old was giving interviews to journalists attending the celebrity screen at Leicester Square's Odeon cinema when he was soaked with water squirted from a bogus microphone. According to British newspaper the Daily Mirror, rock matriarch Sharon Osbourne was treated to a similar soaking at a film premiere in London last month - but she decided to take the law into her own hands and threw a bucket of water over the lead practical joker. ( :laugh: I love that broad.)

Holmes Dropped from 'Batman' Sequel
Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman have signed to star in a second Batman movie, but love interest Katie Holmes has been dropped. Movie bosses are thrilled with the response to Batman Begins - it took $46.9 million in its first weekend at the US box office - and have snapped up the film's stars for a sequel. Bale as Batman was the first to put pen to paper, followed by Caine as butler Alfred and Freeman as Bruce Wayne's business associate Lucius Fox. But Holmes won't reprise her role as district attorney Rachel Dawes - reportedly because Warner Bros is angry her engagement to Tom Cruise has stolen media attention away from the movie. A source tells Pagesix.Com, "Everyone is in agreement that the movie's strength is with Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman." Adding of Holmes, "She won't be in the sequel... the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress. Warner is happy that people are now focusing on who'll be playing the Joker rather than Katie and Tom."

(And may I suggest Mark Hamill for The Joker?)

[strandinthewind]

. . .

And I just read that Batman only made $46 million. I bet TomKat had something to do with such poor returns, which sucks and it doesn't bode well for War of the Worlds...

I think Batman was not going to be a 100 million opening weekend kind of movie.

I do think, however, that War of the Worlds will be a huge opener assuming nothing else huge is opening that weekend. I mean that has Summer blockbuster written all over it :cool:

[dissention]

I do think, however, that War of the Worlds will be a huge opener assuming nothing else huge is opening that weekend. I mean that has Summer blockbuster written all over it :cool:

The box office has been down for 17 weeks straight, not even Star Wars could lift it, the likes of Tom Cruise and his tard-like behavior won't help it. :laugh: I bet it'll get something like Batman and Mr. and Mrs. Smith, not much more. It's going to have lots of competition with Batman, Bewitched, Herbie, and Land of the Dead, imo. Their last movie together didn't so hot for a Cruise/Spielberg flick.

[cliffdweller]

IHolmes Dropped from 'Batman' Sequel
Adding of Holmes, "She won't be in the sequel... the next romantic interest will be a much stronger actress.

That says it all doesn't it? She's really an atrocious little actress. I CANNOT believe she was cast next to Christian Bale. That? Makes me want to vomit. He is such a fabulous actor, he deserves an equally strong actress at his side, not Joey from Dawson's friggin' Crick :laugh:.

Oh yeah, and what were those water-mic pranksters charged with? Assault? So, if I was walking down the street and someone came up to me and sprayed water in my face I could press charges against them? Gimme a break :rolleyes:

[DrummerDeanna]

But it's not at all unusual for an actress not to return in batman flicks - none of the previous women did :shrug:

[The Tower]

Oh yeah, and what were those water-mic pranksters charged with? Assault? So, if I was walking down the street and someone came up to me and sprayed water in my face I could press charges against them? Gimme a break :rolleyes:
I'm surprised Cruise's people haven't tracked Dissy down and sued him for accusing Tommy Boy of being a fag.

[strandinthewind]

. . . Oh yeah, and what were those water-mic pranksters charged with? Assault? So, if I was walking down the street and someone came up to me and sprayed water in my face I could press charges against them? Gimme a break :rolleyes:

Yep - I bet you'd just laugh it off and been genteel about the whole thing :laugh: :rolleyes:

[dissention]

I'm surprised Cruise's people haven't tracked Dissy down and sued him for accusing Tommy Boy of being a fag.

Bring it on. Like I said, Cruise makes Nathan Lane look butch.

[strandinthewind]

Bring it on. Like I said, Cruise makes Nathan Lane look butch.

Truth is always an absolute defense :cool:

[dissention]

That says it all doesn't it? She's really an atrocious little actress. I CANNOT believe she was cast next to Christian Bale. That? Makes me want to vomit. He is such a fabulous actor, he deserves an equally strong actress at his side, not Joey from Dawson's friggin' Crick :laugh:.

Yeah, but honestly, how would they be able to find an actress as strong as he is and an actress who the young boys want to oogle and get erections over? There aren't that many out there. All the good ones are at least in their late-thirties. I wouldn't be opposed to Sienna Miller, though...

[SuzeQuze]

I find it all rather disturbing that there "seem" to be some willing participants in all this contract business(if indeed this is whats happening) Dosn't say much about their (Nicole, Katie) morals at all.Would you "marry" for money, notariaty,( no sex/ sex with TC....I imagine, this could appeal... ;) ) a movie career..all at the expence of self worth, I dunno, I couldn't.All the pretence would drive me nuts.

No. And Nicole seems way too cool to have done that. :confused:

[cliffdweller]

Yep -

Are you serious? How is that assault?

[strandinthewind]

Are you serious? How is that assault?


It is acutally battery in most states :shrug:

But, here is the general legal def. of assault and battery:

If the victim has been actually touched by the person committing the crime, then battery has occurred. If the victim has not actually been touched, but only threatened, then the crime is considered to be assault.

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/violent_crimes/assault_battery.htm

and

Introduction
In the context of criminal law, "assault and battery" are typically components of a single offense. In tort law, "assault" and "battery" are separate, with an assault being an act which creates fear of an imminent battery, and the battery being an unlawful touching. Assault and battery are intentional torts, meaning that the defendant actually intends to put the plaintiff in fear of being battered, or intends to wrongfully touch the plaintiff. The wrongful touching need not inflict physical injury, and may be indirect (such as contact through a thrown stone, or spitting). This article describes the law of assault and battery as it is commonly applied, although the law may vary in any specific jurisdiction.

Assault

An assault invoves:

An intentional, unlawful threat or "offer" to cause bodily injury to another by force;
Under circumstances which create in the other person a well-founded fear of imminent peril;
Where there exists the apparent present ability to carry out the act if not prevented.
Note that an assault can be completed even if there is no actual contact with the plaintiff, and even if the defendant had no actual ability to carry out the apparent threat. For example, a defendant who points a realistic toy gun at the plaintiff may be liable for assault, even though the defendant was fifty feet away from the plaintiff and had no actual ability to inflict harm from that distance.

Battery

A battery is the willful or intentional touching of a person against that person’s will by another person, or by an object or substance put in motion by that other person. Please note that an offensive touching can constitute a battery even if it does not cause injury, and could not reasonably be expected to cause injury. A defendant who emphatically pokes the plaintiff in the chest with his index finger to emphasize a point may be culpable for battery (although the damages award that results may well be nominal). A defendant who spits on a plaintiff, even though there is little chance that the spitting will cause any injury other than to the plaintiff's dignity, has committed a battery.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/assault_battery.html

[madformac]

Are you serious? How is that assault?

An assault is a physical or verbal violation of someone. I'd say it qualifies, especially as it was unprovoked..

[cliffdweller]

Wow. A little spray of water can lead to assault charges. I'll remember that the next time I engage in water balloon fights :laugh:.

[cliffdweller]

An assault is a physical or verbal violation of someone. I'd say it qualifies, especially as it was unprovoked..

Great. Well, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this case. But I guess those guys were released of all charges eh?

[madformac]

Great. Well, I don't think the punishment fits the crime in this case. But I guess those guys were released of all charges eh?

They need to be made an example of to make sure it doesn't happen again with more serious consequences..

[strandinthewind]

Wow. A little spray of water can lead to assault charges. I'll remember that the next time I engage in water balloon fights :laugh:.

Well, the concept of priviledge in general prevents amny things from being assault and battery:


Privilege

In order to be liable for an assault or battery, the defendant must lack privilege to assault or batter the plaintiff. The following are examples of "privilege":

Consent

Where a defendant has the plaintiff's consent to commit an act of assault or battery, the plaintiff may not later bring a lawsuit. The most typical context for consent occurs in sports. The intentional foul in basketball, or the tackle in football, are an anticipated part of the game. While it may be possible for certain conduct to be so far outside the realm of what is reasonable to nonetheless give rise to a tort - for example, chopping an opposing player off at the knees in a football game, an action which is known to have a very high probability of causing serious and even crippling injury - rule violations which are part of standard play are unlikely to support a legal action. Consent also exists in the context of authorized medical or surgical procedures.

Police Conduct

A police officer is privileged to apply the threat of force, or if necessary to apply actual force, in order to effect a lawful arrest. A defendant who suffers injury as the result of reasonable force exerted by the police to effect a lawful arrest will not be able to sustain a lawsuit against the arresting officers for assault or battery.

Self-Defense

A person who is assaulted may use such reasonable force as may be necessary, or which at the time reasonably appears to be necessary, to protect himself or herself from bodily harm. An act of self-defense must ordinarily be proportionate to the threat. That is, if you believe a person is going to spit on you, depending upon the context it may be reasonable to push the person away, but it would not be reasonable to hit the person with a baseball bat.

A plaintiff may be expected to withdraw from the threat, if possible, before engaging in forcible resistance. However, if the plaintiff is in his own home and the defendant is not a member of the plaintiff's household, a plaintiff will typically not be required to further withdraw from the threat once the plaintiff has retreated to his own home.

Defense of Others

Defense of others is similar to self-defense, and usually occurs in the context of one family member protecting another. Some jurisdictions permit a defendant to assert defense of others, even where the defendant is mistaken as to the existence of a threat, as long as the mistake is reasonable. Other jurisdictions do not permit this defense unless there was an actual threat or battery against the other person.

Voluntary (Mutual) Combat

Where the plaintiff voluntarily engages in a fight with defendant for the sake of fighting and not as a means of self-defense, the plaintiff may not recover for an assault or battery unless the defendant beat the plaintiff excessively or used unreasonable force. If two people voluntarily enter a brawl, it is unlikely that either will be able to sue the other. However, if one falls, and the other takes advantage of the situation by kicking him and causing injury, that act may well be considered to be an excessive use of force which would support a cause of action.

Defense of Property

Many jurisdictions allow the use of some amount of threat or force by a person who is seeking to protect his own property from theft or damage. In most jurisdictions, there is no privilege to use force that may cause death or serious injury against trespassers unless the trespass itself threatens death or serious injury. Please note that there are some jurisdictions with extraordinarily broad laws, permitting the use of significant and even deadly force to prevent the theft of property. (Leaving aside the moral issues of using physical force to defend property, be sure that you know your local laws before applying force in such a situation.)

Discipline

Some people are legally authorized to apply physical restraint or battery in order to discipline others. For example, in most jurisdictions, parents are legally authorized to apply reasonable physical discipline upon their children. In some jurisdictions, school teachers are permitted to apply a certain level of physical restraint or discipline against students. The staff of a mental health facility may have legal authority to apply reasonable restraint to prevent a patient from causing harm to himself, to others, or to property.

Merchant's Privilege

Most jurisdictions grant merchants the right to apply reasonable force to detain shoplifters, or other persons who the merchant reasonably believes are attempting to steal the merchant's property.

Provocation

Words alone, no matter how insulting or provocative, do not justify an assault or battery against the person who utters the words.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/assault_battery.html
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For all interested in more - that'll be $500 per hour :laugh: :rolleyes: :laugh:

[dissention]

They need to be made an example of to make sure it doesn't happen again with more serious consequences..

If Tom had any balls to speak of, he would have done what Sharon Osbourne did and chucked a bucket of water at the ass instead of having him arrested.

[skcin]

If Tom had any balls to speak of, he would have done what Sharon Osbourne did and chucked a bucket of water at the ass instead of having him arrested.


I do love Sharon & her balls of brass. :nod:

[strandinthewind]

If Tom had any balls to speak of, he would have done what Sharon Osbourne did and chucked a bucket of water at the ass instead of having him arrested.

That would make him guilty of assault and battery as well :laugh: - not to mention costing him $$$$ in the civil trial and making him look bad. I thnk a woman has a far better chance of getting away with that type of response than a man.

[cliffdweller]

If Tom had any balls to speak of, he would have done what Sharon Osbourne did and chucked a bucket of water at the ass instead of having him arrested.

:nod: Thank you :xoxo:.

[strandinthewind]

:nod: Thank you :xoxo:.


Maybe he should carry a bucket of water around with him for such a purpose - though I am sure there was one right by him in this instance :rolleyes: :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

I thnk a woman has a far better chance of getting away with that type of response than a man.

I have only two words for you dahling: Zsa Zsa.

[strandinthewind]

I have only two words for you dahling: Zsa Zsa.


Well, she hit a cop :laugh: And - I know many who though she was justified. If a guy had done that, they would have pinned him to the ground and kicked him for good measure :eek: :laugh:

[dissention]

:nod: Thank you :xoxo:.

I get that what they did was revolting, but he was a big baby about it. He simply could have chuckled for a brief moment, told them he had to move on, and left it at that. Or he could have simply said that it was rude and left. But no, he decided to create more bad press for himself. Spielberg must be pulling his hair out by now from being so worried about how Toothy is going to affect his movie.

[cliffdweller]

Well, she hit a cop :laugh: And - I know many who though she was justified. If a guy had done that, they would have pinned him to the ground and kicked him for good measure :eek: :laugh:

Or how about Diana Ross? :laugh: I am pulling out all the crazy broads today! :] :]

[dissention]

Or how about Diana Ross? :laugh: I am pulling out all the crazy broads today! :] :]

He touched my tit!

[strandinthewind]

Or how about Diana Ross? :laugh: I am pulling out all the crazy broads today! :] :]


Yes you are :laugh: La Ross - bless her heart.

[cliffdweller]

Spielberg must be pulling his hair out by now from being so worried about how Toothy is going to affect his movie.

Yeah, damage control is a bitch ain't it? :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I get that what they did was revolting, but he was a big baby about it. He simply could have chuckled for a brief moment, told them he had to move on, and left it at that. Or he could have simply said that it was rude and left. But no, he decided to create more bad press for himself. Spielberg must be pulling his hair out by now from being so worried about how Toothy is going to affect his movie.


I just do not see how this is bad press. I mean they attacked him in an effort to exploit him as he was graciously going to the fans to greet them :shrug: If anything, they alone look bad.

[cliffdweller]

He touched my tit!

She belongs in a straightjacket.

[cliffdweller]

I just do not see how this is bad press. I mean they attacked him in an effort to exploit him as he was graciously going to the fans to greet them :shrug: If anything, they alone look bad.

Oh no doubt about it. But I do think that everyone is making much more out of this than need be. It was water for chrissakes not napalm.

[dissention]

Did Tom Cruise actually tell the police to press charges then and there or did the police just arrest them and haul them away. I think in a crowd like that, the latter is what happened. Plus, Tom appeared to laugh as it happened.

He laughed briefly then went ape****.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050621/ap_en_ce/people_cruise_19

Cruise appeared to laugh but then asked the prankster: "Why would you do that?"

As the man gave a barely audible excuse, Cruise said: "Do you like thinking less of people, is that it?" The prankster tried to walk away but Cruise reached across the metal barrier, held his arm and said: "Don't run away. That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that ... it's incredibly rude."

The actor grew increasingly irritated and told the man: "You're a jerk."

Police detained the man who squirted Cruise and also arrested three other men who filmed the incident. The four were working on a new comedy show for British TV station Channel 4 in which celebrities are the targets of practical jokes.

I have no clue if he sought out the police or not, so there's no point in assuming anything.

Finally, how is bad press to have someone arrested for attacking you?

"Attacking." :laugh:

That's exactly the kind of word that creates the bad press by making people think the whole mess is ridiculous. A lot of people look at this and think he overreacted. Couple that with his TomKat bull**** and it's just another thing to chalk up on the long list of his increasingly tard-like actions.

[dissention]

I just do not see how this is bad press. I mean they attacked him in an effort to exploit him as he was graciously going to the fans to greet them :shrug: If anything, they alone look bad.

In your eyes, sure. They had a poll on one of those tittytainment shows this morning (The Insider or some such ****) and 69% said that they thought he was essentially an ass over the whole thing.

[strandinthewind]

He laughed briefly then went ape****.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050621/ap_en_ce/people_cruise_19

Cruise appeared to laugh but then asked the prankster: "Why would you do that?"

As the man gave a barely audible excuse, Cruise said: "Do you like thinking less of people, is that it?" The prankster tried to walk away but Cruise reached across the metal barrier, held his arm and said: "Don't run away. That's incredibly rude. I'm here giving you an interview and you do that ... it's incredibly rude."

The actor grew increasingly irritated and told the man: "You're a jerk."

Police detained the man who squirted Cruise and also arrested three other men who filmed the incident. The four were working on a new comedy show for British TV station Channel 4 in which celebrities are the targets of practical jokes.

I have no clue if he sought out the police or not, so there's no point in assuming anything

I know - I deleted that post :cool:



"Attacking." :laugh:

That's exactly the kind of word that creates the bad press by making people think the whole mess is ridiculous. A lot of people look at this and think he overreacted. Couple that with his TomKat bull**** and it's just another thing to chalk up on the long list of his increasingly tard-like actions.

Well, we know now that it was water. But, what would be rushing through your mind if some crazed person sprayed your face, which is you livelihood, with some liquid while you were in a crowd. I would freak out a lot, esp. in this day and age.

I think you just hate Tom Cruise and refuse to cut him any slack :laugh:

[dissention]

Yeah, damage control is a bitch ain't it? :laugh:

I love how Spielberg is defending Toothy's Oprah appearance!

"What Tom did on `Oprah' was exactly what Tom did with me when he first told me about Katie Holmes. But the press didn't like the way Tom bared his soul to Oprah."

:laugh:

[strandinthewind]

In your eyes, sure. They had a poll on one of those tittytainment shows this morning (The Insider or some such ****) and 69% said that they thought he was essentially an ass over the whole thing.


and those polls are soooooo valid :laugh: :rolleyes:

[dissention]

I think you just hate Tom Cruise and refuse to cut him any slack :laugh:

No, I already said their behavior was revolting. But that doesn't mean I don't think he overreacted.

[strandinthewind]

No, I already said their behavior was revolting. But that doesn't mean I don't think he overreacted.


So, the same applies to nicole Kidmann and her little outburst :shrug: :wavey:

and - throwing a pale of water at the guy would be better than telling him off :rolleyes:

Someone's bias is showing :laugh:

[dissention]

and those polls are soooooo valid :laugh: :rolleyes:

No, but they certainly give you an idea of what people think about the whole thing. They had no right whatsoever to spray his face, so what gave Toothy the right to physically put his hands on one of them?

[cliffdweller]

But, what would be rushing through your mind if some crazed person sprayed your face, which is you livelihood, with some liquid

I guess it would depend on what kind of "actor" I was...ba-dump, *cymbal crash*.

[strandinthewind]

No, but they certainly give you an idea of what people think about the whole thing. They had no right whatsoever to spray his face, so what gave Toothy the right to physically put his hands on one of them?

They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

[cliffdweller]

They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

:laugh: :rolleyes: ~sigh~

[dissention]

So, the same applies to nicole Kidmann and her little outburst :shrug: :wavey:

I cut her slack considering she just found out that one of her friends died when she got to the premiere. And all she did was call the guy "rude" and walk into the theater.

and - throwing a pale of water at the guy would be better than telling him off :rolleyes:

No, it would be funnier to watch. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

I guess it would depend on what kind of "actor" I was...ba-dump, *cymbal crash*.

:laugh: :laugh: - but I suggest they protect their faces as much as they can :cool: He clearly must depend on his.

[dissention]

They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

So that gave him the right to physically put his hands upon one of them? I think not, my dear.

[strandinthewind]

So that gave him the right to physically put his hands upon one of them? I think not, my dear.

Well, yes it does. You can detain a person who has committed a crime.

[dissention]

Well, yes it does. You can detain a person who has committed a crime.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[dissention]

He clearly must depend on his.

Because he clearly can't depend on his acting.

[strandinthewind]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Well, they arrested then didn't they? Interestingly, they arrested them on "suspicion of assault" which is interesting if you think about it.

[cliffdweller]

Would you two just admit....that you're in love with each other? :laugh::laugh:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[strandinthewind]

Because he clearly can't depend on his acting.

Well, acting is a visual thing :shrug: Part of his charm to millions is his face - you make that sound like a bad thing. I suggest that is no different that any other actor, even the ones who dress down in parts a la Kidmann's nose. Even then, it is all about appearance.

[strandinthewind]

Would you two just admit....that you're in love with each other? :laugh::laugh:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KATIE BAR THE DOOR

DAMN THE TORPEDOS

FULL SPEED AHEAD

:laugh: :laugh:

[dissention]

Well, acting is a visual thing :shrug: Part of his charm to millions is his face - you make that sound like a bad thing. I suggest that is no different that any other actor, even the ones who dress down in parts a la Kidmann's nose. Even then, it is all about appearance.

Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.

[amber]

Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.
He's not that bad. He's pretty good most of the time. He picks good roles for his range, and he does a good job on them, sometimes less than others, sometimes more than others.

So Shut up! Just shut up! Jeezus!!! Lay off Tom! You're making me sick with your hateful Bile!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[cliffdweller]

How do you really feel about it Amber? :laugh:

[dissention]

He's not that bad. He's pretty good most of the time. He picks good roles for his range, and he does a good job on them, sometimes less than others, sometimes more than others.

So Shut up! Just shut up! Jeezus!!! Lay off Tom! You're making me sick with your hateful Bile!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:laugh: :sorry:

He's the kind of actor tailor-made for roles like Janitor #3 in Die Hard 2. :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.


I think I said earlier in this thread or maybe it was the other that he is not that great of an actor who has relied mostly on his looks and charm to get where he is. But, I nonetheless reiterate it here :wavey:

[dissention]

he is not that great of an actor who has relied mostly on his looks and charm to get where he is.

I'll toast to that. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

I'll toast to that. :woohoo:


I'll toast to you for admitting he has them - looks and charm that is :] :] :]

[amber]

How do you really feel about it Amber? :laugh:
YAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! :mad: :mad:


:lol: :lol: :lol: Whew, I feel better.

[dissention]

I'll toast to you for admitting he has them - looks and charm that is :] :] :]

Not to me he doesn't, but I can't deny that he does to millions of people out there for some strange, strange reason. :laugh:

[amber]

:laugh: :sorry:

He's the kind of actor tailor-made for roles like Janitor #3 in Die Hard 2. :lol:
You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening. *Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

[Miss Vicky]

I've avoided this thread 'til now because, well, I really don't like Tom Cruise and any discussion of him, good or bad, isn't really very appealing for me.

He's a mediocre actor and not particularly attractive, if you ask me. And his smile? Bugs the sh*t out of me. He's like a damned car salesman or something.

The only movies I've liked that he starred in?

Rainman
Risky Business
Far and Away (which is quite surprising, considering the fact that I don't like Nicole Kidman either)
The Last Samarai (he's almost likeable when he doesn't flash that f*cking smile)

[cliffdweller]

Not to me he doesn't, but I can't deny that he does to millions of people out there for some strange, strange reason. :laugh:

Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.

[strandinthewind]

Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.


Well, if box office receipts are any indication :shrug:

[dissention]

You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening.

I can honestly say I've never seen a performance from him that I liked. Movies, yes. Performances, no. He's always the weak link, especially in Magnolia where it was really evident that he couldn't act for beans. Though I will admit that he didn't bother me in Risky Business one bit.

*Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

I actually tried to vocalize that sound.

[dissention]

Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.

I'm a generous person, that's why. :laugh:

I long for the day when good actors are the ones who are cherished by the moviegoing public...

[amber]

I can honestly say I've never seen a performance from him that I liked. Movies, yes. Performances, no. He's always the weak link, especially in Magnolia where it was really evident that he couldn't act for beans. Though I will admit that he didn't bother me in Risky Business one bit.



I actually tried to vocalize that sound.
What about A Few Good Men? What about Interview W/A Vampire? Cocktail? :lol: (I actually do like him in Cocktail, but it's the bar tricks and cocky attitude that gets me.)
Whatever, you're obviously impervious to his charms, and any good performance he might lay down. I hate you.
:lol:

[amber]

Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.
No, he's not. Why don't you hush? Hmm? :lol: :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

I'm a generous person, that's why. :laugh:

I long for the day when good actors are the ones who are cherished by the moviegoing public...

Well they are. I mean Kiddmann is a good actress as far as you are concerned and she gets as much press as Tom Cruise?

[dissention]

Well they are. I mean Kiddmann is a good actress as far as you are concerned and she gets as much press as Tom Cruise?

One out of a sea of hundreds. Wow. It's depressing to look at the majority of movies and actors that make the big bucks these days, it really is.

[madformac]

You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening. *Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

I agree..


I think a lot of people are basing their hatred on Cruise because of his personal life but are attacking his work to back up their feelings.

I've not met him so far in life so I don't know what he's like although he seems fine to me from his interviews, but I do like a lot of his movies. Most are not exactly groundbreaking acting performances but he is king of his domain when it comes to popular culture movies.

I do think he deserved an Oscar for Rain Man however instead of "slow on the drive way" Hoffman.. Born On The 4th July was a great performance too...

[sparky]

Forgive my ignorance, but why DO so many peoples claim TC is gay? Is there proof or something? Is this just a guess, or a hunch?

These things don't happen in a vacuum. LA is a very tiny place, gossip wise. I heard stories about him within weeks of moving here. On the other hand, I never heard them about other stars of his prominence and age.

I am not a fan of his, but I just never understood how all these accusation got started in the first place. He does not seem gay at all to me. He does not seem the least bit effeminate to me either, does he to you? (I know that that is not a prerequisite

What do you expect ? A lisp ? Bleached hair ? A dress ?

People rarely guess I'M gay. Or any of the guys I date.

For the record, I think he comes across as girly and precious. Not masculine at all.

Why would Nichole play along with this, what would be in it for her? She is gorgeous and could probably get any man she wanted, why would she want to be in that situation?

Money. Success. Power. Fame. What every actor/celebrity wanna be wants. People will stop at almost nothing to get these things.

Wake up and smell the desperation !

People eat handfuls of bugs on television for 40 grand. There is little shame or dignity remaining in our culture.

[skcin]

People rarely guess I'M gay.


It may be the pickup truck. :shrug:

:D

[sparky]

It may be the pickup truck. :shrug:

:D

:lol:

That could be part of it. A bunch of girls I have worked with for six months were bummed when my assistant spilled the beans. This one lady came up to me and said, "Not you too ! My GOD. Not another one !" :thumbsup:

[NaiveMelody23]

Every celeb or person of fame goes through odd career stages. I mean come on look at David Bowie, he wasnt the most sane of people, and now everyone loves him.

Bill Tush, also, he is probaly at his house feeding his dog wondering what he could've done dumb and odd to make the public love him still.

All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

[dissention]

Money. Success. Power. Fame. What every actor/celebrity wanna be wants. People will stop at almost nothing to get these things.

Wake up and smell the desperation !

People eat handfuls of bugs on television for 40 grand. There is little shame or dignity remaining in our culture.

Precisely. Heck, put me in a dress and I'll beard for Tom for a few of those things mentioned above.

[dissention]

All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

Back under his rock within four years would be more conducive to keeping my food from coming up.

[trackaghost]

I agree..


I think a lot of people are basing their hatred on Cruise because of his personal life but are attacking his work to back up their feelings.

I've not met him so far in life so I don't know what he's like although he seems fine to me from his interviews, but I do like a lot of his movies. Most are not exactly groundbreaking acting performances but he is king of his domain when it comes to popular culture movies.

I do think he deserved an Oscar for Rain Man however instead of "slow on the drive way" Hoffman.. Born On The 4th July was a great performance too...

I think he's a good actor and he's great at choosing films too.
I agree that Rain Man is definitely up there as one of his best performances but Hoffman did deserve that Oscar IMO.

I don't know why people think War Of The Worlds will fail. I reckon it's gonna be huge. You can't compare it with Batman Begins really, because with all the comic book adaptations and superhero movies hitting cinemas in the last few years, it was inevitable that people were going to lose interest in them a little eventually.

[trackaghost]

All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

Hmmm, Tom Cruise normal. There's a novel thought :lol:

[amber]

Hmmm, Tom Cruise normal. There's a novel thought :lol:
Don't make me scream at you, too, Trackie. :distress: :laugh:

[dissention]

I don't know why people think War Of The Worlds will fail.

Tom Cruise. :shrug:

I don't think it's going to be a big bomb or fail, I just don't think it's going to be "huge." It'll probably do the same kind of business Batman and Mr. and Mrs. Smith did opening weekend. It's going to be competing with lots of movies when it opens next week and with less people going to the movies, so many "big" movies are going to have people split, imo.

[trackaghost]

Don't make me scream at you, too, Trackie. :distress: :laugh:

What do you want? I said he was a good actor, sheesh! :laugh: :laugh:
:xoxo:

[amber]

What do you want? I said he was a good actor, sheesh! :laugh: :laugh:
:xoxo:
:lol: I know, I was kidding. :xoxo:

[NaiveMelody23]

Now exactly why do we all care what Tom Cruise does with his life?

[trackaghost]

Tom Cruise. :shrug:

I don't think it's going to be a big bomb or fail, I just don't think it's going to be "huge." It'll probably do the same kind of business Batman and Mr. and Mrs. Smith did opening weekend. It's going to be competing with lots of movies when it opens next week and with less people going to the movies, so many "big" movies are going to have people split, imo.

I suppose people are getting sick of Cruise, but everyone knows that War Of The Worlds is out soon because of it, and that can only be a good thing.

Mr & Mrs Smith actually exceeded expectations and gave both Jolie and Pitt the biggest opening of their careers. It's a decent movie, but a lot of that was down to all the publicity leading up to the release.
Batman Begins didn't do quite as well as expected, but still opened with $72.9 million (for its five-day gross - it opened on a Wednesday). That's still pretty impressive. All the press Holmes garnered didn't really affect that movie in a positive or negative way I think, because no one is going to see Batman to see the love interest.

I think all the signs are good for WOTW but of couse I could be wrong.

I'm seeing it this week, so I may well change my mind!

I have to say I totally forgot Kidman was in Batman Forever. Tom Cruise obviously likes Batman's chicks.

[sparky]

Now exactly why do we all care what Tom Cruise does with his life?

Why do we babble about anything here ?

Why are we all spending so much time posting stuff on the internet, period ?

We all have too much time on our hands and can't keep our big yaps shut about anything, that's why ! :blob2: :lol:

[amber]

Now exactly why do we all care what Tom Cruise does with his life?
I don't know, we just do. :)

We all have too much time on our hands and can't keep our big yaps shut about anything, that's why ! :blob1:

Yep. Works for me. Sounds about right.

:lol:

[trackaghost]

:lol: I know, I was kidding. :xoxo:

Me too! I don't really think Cruise is a good actor at all! *snigger* :lol:

[The Tower]

What about Interview W/A Vampire?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Cocktail?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Whatever, you're obviously impervious to his charms, and any good performance he might lay down.
I don't think that dude has ever given a good performance. Like I said before, it's always TOM CRUISE as {insert role here}.

I hate you.
That's awesome...... :xoxo:

[trackaghost]

Why do we babble about anything here ?

Why are we all spending so much time posting stuff on the internet, period ?

We all have too much time on our hands and can't keep our big yaps shut about anything, that's why ! :blob2: :lol:

Ah, the beauty of Chit Chat! :nod:

[NaiveMelody23]

well, in that case.

lets chit chat away lol

[amber]

Me too! I don't really think Cruise is a good actor at all! *snigger* :lol:
:mad: :mad: Don't.Tease.Me.About.Tom. :lol:

[amber]

:laugh: :laugh:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't think that dude has ever given a good performance. Like I said before, it's always TOM CRUISE as {insert role here}.


That's awesome...... :xoxo:
:mad: :lol:
:xoxo:

http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/fingers/fing40.gif

[The Tower]

For the record, I think he comes across as girly and precious. Not masculine at all.
Precious is right. He really grosses me out. He just screams self-denial. Mainly because he's always screaming about how straight he is.

Secure straight guys don't care about whether or not someone thinks they are gay. They don't file lawsuits about it, either.

A lot of people insinuated Justin Timberlake was gay. His response? That would be cool, but I'm not.Did anyone see him on the talk show circuit screaming about how much in love he was with Cameron Diaz?? He was on the cover of The Advocate for ****s sake. Could anyone here ever visualize Tom Cruise allowing himself to be on the cover of a gay magazine? Not.

Wake up and smell the ****ing coffee people. Tommy's actions warrant the gossip.

[trackaghost]

http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/fingers/fing40.gif

Woah, that smilie is awesome!
It even looks a bit like Cruise!

[strandinthewind]

Woah, that smilie is awesome!
It even looks a bit like Cruise!


giving a proctology exam :eek:

couldn't resist :laugh:

[DrummerDeanna]

I don't think that dude has ever given a good performance. Like I said before, it's always TOM CRUISE as {insert role here}.



Whoa - I actually agree w/ ya on something :D :xoxo:

I don't think TOm Cruise is a good actor at all....:shrug:

[The Tower]

Whoa - I actually agree w/ ya on something :D :xoxo:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Head for the hills, folks- the Apocalypse is upon us....

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[sparky]

Secure straight guys don't care about whether or not someone thinks they are gay. They don't file lawsuits about it, either.

So true. All of my straight buddies are totally cool with it. They better be, as almost all my male friends are straight. They are cool enough to go out drinking at a rough edged gay bar with me. They don't even freak out at the hardcore porn on the monitors. :eek:

If they can hang at The Faultline (and Towie would know this), they are damned secure ! :lol:

Wake up and smell the ****ing coffee people.

Wake up and smell the closet.

[amber]

Precious is right. He really grosses me out. He just screams self-denial. Mainly because he's always screaming about how straight he is.

Secure straight guys don't care about whether or not someone thinks they are gay. They don't file lawsuits about it, either.

A lot of people insinuated Justin Timberlake was gay. His response? That would be cool, but I'm not.Did anyone see him on the talk show circuit screaming about how much in love he was with Cameron Diaz?? He was on the cover of The Advocate for ****s sake. Could anyone here ever visualize Tom Cruise allowing himself to be on the cover of a gay magazine? Not.

Wake up and smell the ****ing coffee people. Tommy's actions warrant the gossip.
I don't care if people talk about how he's gay, I care when people say he sucks, or that he is a terrible, evil person. :wavey:

[sparky]

I don't care if people talk about how he's gay, I care when people say he sucks, or that he is a terrible, evil person. :wavey:

I don't know if he is evil or terrible. He strikes as creepy, however.

And I do suspect that he does indeed suck. :eek:

[amber]

I don't know if he is evil or terrible. He strikes as creepy, however.

And I do suspect that he does indeed suck. :eek:
Yes, we know he sucks, but I don't think he sucks. He seems actually pretty regular to me. Nice and stuff, too. But, he does have that creepy scientology thing. :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

I'm surprised Cruise's people haven't tracked Dissy down and sued him for accusing Tommy Boy of being a fag.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[gldstwmn]

Though I will admit that he didn't bother me in Risky Business one bit.


That was before he got hooked up with the spaceship people, though.
Rebecca DeMornay could make anyone look hot.

[The Tower]

And I do suspect that he does indeed suck. :eek:
He probably does a poor job of it, too.

On second thought, maybe he's really hot in the sack with guys considering how repressed he must be. He must have a really big load to blow when he finally gets around to it.

[sparky]

That was before he got hooked up with the spaceship people, though.
Rebecca DeMornay could make anyone look hot.

True dat. I'd damn near flip for her. In 1984 anyway.

[gldstwmn]

What do you expect ? A lisp ? Bleached hair ? A dress ?

People rarely guess I'M gay. Or any of the guys I date.

For the record, I think he comes across as girly and precious. Not masculine at all.


I was going to ask someone earlier in the thread to define what "gay" looks like but thought better of it.

[sparky]

I was going to ask someone earlier in the thread to define what "gay" looks like but thought better of it.

You can always count on me to say the things most people think it better not to say. Me or Diss. Or Tower. :laugh: :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I was going to ask someone earlier in the thread to define what "gay" looks like but thought better of it.

This is what it looks like:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/skcin/Stevie%20Pittsburgh%206-11-05/bathroom.jpg

[amber]

He probably does a poor job of it, too.

On second thought, maybe he's really hot in the sack with guys considering how repressed he must be. He must have a really big load to blow when he finally gets around to it.
Dude!!! :eek: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[amber]

This is what it looks like:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/skcin/Stevie%20Pittsburgh%206-11-05/bathroom.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, there it is.....

[Moony]

On second thought, maybe he's really hot in the sack with guys considering how repressed he must be. He must have a really big load to blow when he finally gets around to it.

Oh my.

*****ing10characterminimum!*

[strandinthewind]

Poor Curtis - he should be in the pink hoodie for that :eek:

[The Tower]

This is what it looks like:
There are very few words to express how awesome this post was.

That shirt!!!!! :eek:

Are you wearing eye-liner in that photo, young man??? :laugh: :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

There are very few words to express how awesome this post was.

That shirt!!!!! :eek:

Are you wearing eye-liner in that photo, young man??? :laugh: :laugh:

That shirt came from Goodwill. It has birds and wheat on it.


No. I have eyelashes that are every girl's dream....very dark with a natural curl to them

[sparky]

Poor Curtis - he should be in the pink hoodie for that :eek:

Indeed. The pink hoodie and a rubber ducky would take that one right over the top !

[Serrart]

Yeah, but honestly, how would they be able to find an actress as strong as he is and an actress who the young boys want to oogle and get erections over? There aren't that many out there. All the good ones are at least in their late-thirties. I wouldn't be opposed to Sienna Miller, though...

Scarlett Johansson?

Romy

[The Tower]

Oh my.

*****ing10characterminimum!*
Well, come on Dan-O.... every guy has had that build-up-blue-balls feeling at least once in his life.

;) :D

[sparky]

Scarlett Johansson?

Romy

Skank alert !

[amber]

Skank alert !
You don't have to announce yourself every time you post...besides, it's why we love you, Sparky!

[sparky]

You don't have to announce yourself every time you post...besides, it's why we love you, Sparky!

Oh, I am no skank, AMber. Slut puppy, loudmouth, **** stirrer, cad, even a whore on occasion. But skank ? Nope. :lol:

[Serrart]

Skank alert !

I quite like her. And she'll probably get an Oscar nomination for the new Woody Allen's movie next year. Cannes' critics loved her.

Romy

[amber]

Oh, I am no skank, AMber. Slut puppy, loudmouth, **** stirrer, cad, even a whore on occasion. But skank ? Nope. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
whoremouth?

[sparky]

I quite like her. And she'll probably get an Oscar nomination for the new Woody Allen's movie next year. Cannes' critics loved her.

Romy

I think she is a great actress. But I also think she is a skank.
Ditto Chloe Sevigny.

They both have that indefinable skank quality.

Eau de skank.

[amber]

I think she is a great actress. But I also think she is a skank.
Ditto Chloe Sevigny.

They both have that indefinable skank quality.

Eau de skank.

Chloe totally has it, bad, but I haven't noticed it on Scarlett.

[dissention]

Scarlett Johansson?

Romy

Ohmy****ingword, YESSSSSSSS!

I love love love love love Scarlett. I could totally go for that. Beauty and brains, definitely a perfect match for Christian Bale.

[dissention]

Ditto Chloe Sevigny.


Oy. Love her, too, but I could count her genital warts from 500 paces.

[sparky]

Chloe totally has it, bad, but I haven't noticed it on Scarlett.

When she is without makeup, skankasaurus. But, not in the Paris Hilton category or anything. She takes the cake. That kind of skank can't be painted over, dyed, dressed up, or removed surgically. She also fits into a special category of mine - the long limbed, out of proportion skank : Gangleskank. :thumbsup:

[dissention]

When she is without makeup, skankasaurus. But, not in the Paris Hilton category or anything. She takes the cake. That kind of skank can't be painted over, dyed, dressed up, or removed surgically. She also fits into a special category of mine - the long limbed, out of proportion skank : Gangleskank. :thumbsup:

:laugh:

Paris Hilton's vagina should be in the yellow pages by now.

[sparky]

:laugh:

Paris Hilton's vagina should be in the yellow pages by now.

Under Toll Roads, perhaps? Tourist Attractions ? Superfund sites ?

[sparky]

Oy. Love her, too, but I could count her genital warts from 500 paces.

That made me hoot so loud, 2 people came into my office.

[dissention]

Under Toll Roads, perhaps? Tourist Attractions ? Superfund sites ?

Garbage, Rentals, Sewers, Pests, Recreational, and Plumbing, too. :woohoo:

[The Tower]

When she is without makeup, skankasaurus. But, not in the Paris Hilton category or anything. She takes the cake. That kind of skank can't be painted over, dyed, dressed up, or removed surgically. She also fits into a special category of mine - the long limbed, out of proportion skank : Gangleskank. :thumbsup:
I still don't get that whole Paris Hilton thang. She has no ass, no tits and she has the body shape on an alien vistor.

I just don't get it. Are straight men really that stupid???

[dissention]

That made me hoot so loud, 2 people came into my office.

*bows*

I guess I am still full of piss and vinegar after all, my love.

[dissention]

I still don't get that whole Paris Hilton thang. She has no ass, no tits and she has the body shape on an alien vistor.

I just don't get it. Are straight men really that stupid???

Are crooked guys that stupid that they feel the need to actually ask that question??? :shocked:

[amber]

the long limbed, out of proportion skank : Gangleskank. :thumbsup:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please, if there's a god, I'll have some opportunity to use that word...

[sparky]

I still don't get that whole Paris Hilton thang. She has no ass, no tits and she has the body shape on an alien vistor.


Not to mention the equine mug.

[sparky]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please, if there's a god, I'll have some opportunity to use that word...

Happy to be of service.

[dissention]

Not to mention the equine mug.

:laugh:

She's always looked like a malnourished fetus to me, plucked from the womb before she ripened.

[amber]

Not to mention the equine mug.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mrrrrrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhr!!!

[gldstwmn]

You can always count on me to say the things most people think it better not to say. Me or Diss. Or Tower. :laugh: :laugh:

And for that, I salute you. :lol: :woohoo:

[gldstwmn]

This is what it looks like:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/skcin/Stevie%20Pittsburgh%206-11-05/bathroom.jpg

You are so cute. I'd want you for my nurse any day. :cool:

[AliP]

This picture had me LMAO. Look at that lady behind him. :lol: I got the pic from pinkisthenewblog.com.