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editormarf
06-10-2005, 12:19 PM
When I heard that they end with this, I was so psyched. I've loved it since the Byrds did it (how old am I? :laugh: ) and I thought it would be the perfect ending--two true-blue major rock-n-rollers singing along with the crowd!!! At Mansfield, when they finished Leather and Lace, the lights didn't go up immediately, so I waited in great anticipation. I realize now that they couldn't do it because they were running late. Don didn't start til 8:15 or so for a posted 7:30 start. but what's the deal? :confused:
Dont' they sort of know how long the show is, and couldn't they have cut the opening act? I for one sure could have done with one or two fewer of her stuff to see Don and Stevie do SYWBARARS... :distress: So I thought the concert ended sort of with a thud....A couple of other people said the same thing.

What do you all think?

Martha :wavey:

catinthedark
06-10-2005, 12:22 PM
When I heard that they end with this, I was so psyched. I've loved it since the Byrds did it (how old am I? :laugh: ) and I thought it would be the perfect ending--two true-blue major rock-n-rollers singing along with the crowd!!! At Mansfield, when they finished Leather and Lace, the lights didn't go up immediately, so I waited in great anticipation. I realize now that they couldn't do it because they were running late. Don didn't start til 8:15 or so for a posted 7:30 start. but what's the deal? :confused:
Dont' they sort of know how long the show is, and couldn't they have cut the opening act? I for one sure could have done with one or two fewer of her stuff to see Don and Stevie do SYWBARARS... :distress: So I thought the concert ended sort of with a thud....A couple of other people said the same thing.

What do you all think?

Martha :wavey:

I'm totally with you. I loved their version of this - great choice for their voices, and I sort of like when shows end on an up note. I'm hoping beyond all hope it resurfaces in Detroit. Has it actually been played beyond the first night? I can't remember. I agree - they know the length of the show. What's with starting late and chopping off the bottom??

skcin
06-10-2005, 12:23 PM
For years many of us have been complaining that Stevie never ends with a rocker, how cool would it be if she did, etc.

So she finally does & now it's gone? It had better be back in the setlist by tomorrow, dammit! :mad:

LiquidBlue5000
06-10-2005, 12:23 PM
When I heard that they end with this, I was so psyched. I've loved it since the Byrds did it (how old am I? :laugh: ) and I thought it would be the perfect ending--two true-blue major rock-n-rollers singing along with the crowd!!! At Mansfield, when they finished Leather and Lace, the lights didn't go up immediately, so I waited in great anticipation. I realize now that they couldn't do it because they were running late. Don didn't start til 8:15 or so for a posted 7:30 start. but what's the deal? :confused:
Dont' they sort of know how long the show is, and couldn't they have cut the opening act? I for one sure could have done with one or two fewer of her stuff to see Don and Stevie do SYWBARARS... :distress: So I thought the concert ended sort of with a thud....A couple of other people said the same thing.

What do you all think?

Martha :wavey:


hey Martha, i kinda agree.. i was a little disappointed about that... and in all honesty, they really COULD have done that song.. it's only like 2 min and 45 secs long... they couldn't stay on stage for another 3 minutes?? come on now..

Rickypt
06-10-2005, 12:41 PM
I'll bet it is not a time issue, but that Stevie wasn't happy with it. It wouldn't be a Stevie tour without some dropped songs.

If it's a time issue, then surely a few minutes could be shaved from the instrumental solos preceding Stand Back and Edge of Seventeen. :shrug:

strandinthewind
06-10-2005, 12:46 PM
Maybe DOn wanted to ax it. Who knows, but I say bring it back :mad:

LiquidBlue5000
06-10-2005, 01:01 PM
Maybe DOn wanted to ax it. Who knows, but I say bring it back :mad:

They betta! it was soooo good live..

strandinthewind
06-10-2005, 01:02 PM
They betta! it was soooo good live..


The venue is indoors in Atlanta and in the middle of nowhere or at least not in a residential area. So, seemingly there are no time contraints - if that was indeed the problem :cool:

Also, as always, thanks for the boots!!!! :xoxo: :xoxo: :xoxo:

equeen102289
06-10-2005, 07:53 PM
I'll be so mad if this song doesn't get played in Detroit. I think it's better to end the show on a rocker note, than a ballad too.

LngPrmsdRd
06-12-2005, 12:22 PM
Oh geez...no, no more curfews dammit! ;) I saw them in Holmdel NJ last week, and they had to drop the encore....in Philly they ended with End of the Innocence and Desperado, and mine was the second show...and it was cut off because there was an 11pm curfew. I highly doubt Don's up for dropping any songs...he seemed a bit rushed during his set, and also, the lights didn't come up right away after So You Wanna Be A Rock'n'Roll Star, and from my vantage point I had a clear view of the place they walked off the stage into...and, with that, a clear view of an obviously agitated Don arguing with SOMEONE, presumably about not being able to do the encore, he kept pointing back out to the stage. LOL...I would not have wanted to be whatever employee he was yelling at! ;)

They really ought to drop the opener, because she's caused problems at a few shows now with time constraints...I've heard there may be a curfew at DTE as well, there better not be, because I don't want any more songs cut off! I'd love to see the encore if I could, but I'd be glad just to see this again. I adored it.
~Bree

Glittermoondust
06-12-2005, 12:29 PM
Oh geez...no, no more curfews dammit! ;) I saw them in Holmdel NJ last week, and they had to drop the encore....in Philly they ended with End of the Innocence and Desperado, and mine was the second show...and it was cut off because there was an 11pm curfew. I highly doubt Don's up for dropping any songs...he seemed a bit rushed during his set, and also, the lights didn't come up right away after So You Wanna Be A Rock'n'Roll Star, and from my vantage point I had a clear view of the place they walked off the stage into...and, with that, a clear view of an obviously agitated Don arguing with SOMEONE, presumably about not being able to do the encore, he kept pointing back out to the stage. LOL...I would not have wanted to be whatever employee he was yelling at! ;)

They really ought to drop the opener, because she's caused problems at a few shows now with time constraints...I've heard there may be a curfew at DTE as well, there better not be, because I don't want any more songs cut off! I'd love to see the encore if I could, but I'd be glad just to see this again. I adored it.
~Bree


Yes I believe the curfew is 11 at DTE also.... I agree--drop the opening act--YAWN!!!

Amy

ShangriLaTroubl
06-12-2005, 12:30 PM
According to Taku they purposely got the opening act just for the outdoor shows, so that the "main acts" can come out a little later, when it's darker

Chris

blinker12
06-12-2005, 12:58 PM
Looks like they put it back in in Pittsburgh... :woohoo: Or maybe this is old news and it was back for Jones Beach?? If so, sorry...
I'm seeing them tomorrow night in Hershey, so psyched! :blob2:

PenguinHead
06-12-2005, 03:28 PM
I think "So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star" is such an inspired choice for a closer. Such a slightly wry comment. And highly unusual for two songwriters to close with a cover song. The Byrds are a tremendous band.

Apparently there are many younger fans who, surprisingly, never heard this song. It's such a classic staple. Some quoted it as "DO you wanna be a rock and roll star."

To those who are totally unaware of The Byrds, I recommend you get educated and enlightened. They were a heavy influence on many subsequent bands/artists...including Tom Petty, who has, not surprisingly, performed this song a few times.

I always wished that Fleetwood Mac would, off the cuff, throw in a cover song occasionally. In many ways it pays homage to their influences. Plus, it's just something different, fun and unique to a show/tour. But of course we all know how strictly rigid the band is with regard to such manners. :shrug:

glitter_fades
06-12-2005, 03:41 PM
I always wished that Fleetwood Mac would, off the cuff, throw in a cover song occasionally. In many ways it pays homage to their influences. Plus, it's just something different, fun and unique to a show/tour. But of course we all know how strictly rigid the band is with regard to such manners. :shrug:

Farmer's Daughter on the Dance Tour? :confused:

Some people still bitched at that closer. I loved it. :thumbsup:

WelshWitchPMD
06-12-2005, 03:56 PM
I think "So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star" is such an inspired choice for a closer. Such a slightly wry comment. And highly unusual for two songwriters to close with a cover song. The Byrds are a tremendous band.

Apparently there are many younger fans who, surprisingly, never heard this song. It's such a classic staple. Some quoted it as "DO you wanna be a rock and roll star."




Yeah, I too was surprised to hear that not many people knew this song OR refer to it as a Tom Petty song. :laugh: We older folks know that it is The Byrds and Tom Petty only covered it. I did not get to see them do this at my show, however. Those of you who get to hear it should consider yourselves lucky.

It seems that we got short changed at Mansfield. I heard that Don did IWNGQ at a few shows but not at Mansfield. That is my favorite song, too. I wish that Stevie would have joined him on that one. It would have rocked!

LngPrmsdRd
06-12-2005, 04:02 PM
I heard that Don did IWNGQ at a few shows but not at Mansfield. That is my favorite song, too. I wish that Stevie would have joined him on that one. It would have rocked!

*gasp* I Will Not Go Quietly!!!??!?! Oh my God I would've died, LOL...then again, just seeing The Genie nearly made me have a heart attack. I adore that song.... And I cried on Last Worthless Evening. LOL! My favorite Don song, being sung by 2 of my favorite people in the world...yah, is it any wonder I had to see another show? ;) He definitely didn't do that at Holmdel... He played a couple random solo gigs up here last fall, I wish I'd known at the time.
~Bree

WelshWitchPMD
06-12-2005, 04:06 PM
*gasp* I Will Not Go Quietly!!!??!?! Oh my God I would've died, LOL...then again, just seeing The Genie nearly made me have a heart attack. I adore that song.... And I cried on Last Worthless Evening. LOL! My favorite Don song, being sung by 2 of my favorite people in the world...yah, is it any wonder I had to see another show? ;) He definitely didn't do that at Holmdel... He played a couple random solo gigs up here last fall, I wish I'd known at the time.
~Bree

Yeah, I heard that he did IWNGQ at Mohegan. Not with Stevie of course. Now that would have been the ultimate! :blob2:

trackaghost
06-12-2005, 04:10 PM
Yeah, I too was surprised to hear that not many people knew this song OR refer to it as a Tom Petty song. :laugh: We older folks know that it is The Byrds and Tom Petty only covered it.

Patti Smith also famously covered it on her 1979 album Wave. :)

skcin
06-12-2005, 07:19 PM
They did do SYWBaR&RS in Pitts. I honestly can't remember if he did I Will Not Go Quietly...

HenleyFan
06-12-2005, 09:18 PM
No, he didn't. :(

It was hilarious how Don forgot most of the words to SYWBaRRS and when he said "whoops" to Stevie she sort of patted his arm and said, "that's okay." They were very cute together.

L&M



They did do SYWBaR&RS in Pitts. I honestly can't remember if he did I Will Not Go Quietly...

gldstwmn
06-12-2005, 09:40 PM
Patti Smith also famously covered it on her 1979 album Wave. :)

I've never heard it but I bet that's an interesting version. :laugh:

gldstwmn
06-12-2005, 09:46 PM
*gasp* I Will Not Go Quietly!!!??!?! Oh my God I would've died,~Bree

I listened to that song in the car today for the first time in ages and forgot how much I like it.
Hopefully this performance gets circulated.

GardenStateGirlie
06-12-2005, 10:06 PM
I've never heard it but I bet that's an interesting version. :laugh:

My mom still talks about her now and again (my mom went to high school with her). Apparently she was crazier than a ****house rat back then :laugh: I can imagine what it sounds like.

PenguinHead
06-13-2005, 11:57 AM
Farmer's Daughter on the Dance Tour? :confused:

Some people still bitched at that closer. I loved it. :thumbsup:

Oh yeah! Gotta give them props for that unexpected closer. Pretty edgy and risky for them, huh? So glad they didn't close with the expected "Songbird."
I'm so tired of people who expect to hear certain songs and then bitch when they aren't performed (I only bitch when they play essentially the same set...for decades!).

If you truly enjoy the band...you'll enjoy whatever they play...even if you don't know the songs. I went o a concert this weekend. Didn't know anything about the band so I didn't know any of their songs. I still enjoyed the show! I took it for what it was...not what I wanted it to be. I didn't leave bitching that they didn't play "Rhiannon."

Rickypt
06-13-2005, 12:52 PM
Patti Smith also famously covered it on her 1979 album Wave. :)

It's been in her set in all of her shows that I've seen. I love her version of it.

skcin
06-13-2005, 12:58 PM
No, he didn't. :(

It was hilarious how Don forgot most of the words to SYWBaRRS and when he said "whoops" to Stevie she sort of patted his arm and said, "that's okay." They were very cute together.

L&M


I missed that part. I was getting escorted out by security at that point. :rolleyes:

Was Sunset Grill done? I thought yes, but then I thought it was me thinking of listening to Actual Miles in the car. :shrug:

teedee
06-13-2005, 06:12 PM
hey Martha, i kinda agree.. i was a little disappointed about that... and in all honesty, they really COULD have done that song.. it's only like 2 min and 45 secs long... they couldn't stay on stage for another 3 minutes?? come on now..



Im only referring to Mansfield, I know that if the show goes over 1100:pm they (the artists) get fined. When they did L & L they were already at 11:00pm. lets be greatful we got that! lol... I know tho when you are expecting something an d you dont get it, thats disappointing. have they been doing that song since? We did have that woman opener Julie ray , i think was her name but she didnt come out until 7:45pm. Had she started at 7:30 there would of been plenty of time. I know that at 7:30 there wasnt many ppl in the audience yet. ppl waiting for stevie came in later, ppl who didnt hear don on yet, new they had time still to buy a drink or go to the bathroom. I know stevie does usually end her shows with a mello song, maybe thats her way of relaxing into the end of a show........ b ut if you could pick a rocker song, to end a show , what song would i t be>? sorry if someone has all ready brought that question up, im gonna think about which song i would like myself..... lol....

strandinthewind
06-13-2005, 06:15 PM
I missed that part. I was getting escorted out by security at that point . . . .

HOODLUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :] :]

sparky
06-13-2005, 06:22 PM
Apparently she was crazier than a ****house rat

I LOVE that saying. I never hear anyone but myself use it ! :lol:

Mad4stevie
06-14-2005, 12:03 AM
This song ROCKED!!!!!

I am just back from the Hershey show and I must say that this was one of my favs tonight :)

I loved that they ended the show with an upbeat song.

Review to come tomorrow . . .