Bad Don/Good Stevie Review

[dudden22]

Nicks, Henley no dynamic duo
While the Fleetwood Mac songstress carried her weight, the Eagles singer fell flat.
By DAVID PENCEK
Norwich Bulletin

MOHEGAN-- Don Henley and Stevie Nicks became the solo stars for two of the biggest bands during the 1970s.

In the 1980s, they both enjoyed solo success and recorded a hit duet single "Leather & Lace."

More than 20 years later, the song could have been used as an appropriate theme for the two's double-bill headlining show Monday in the Mohegan Sun Arena.

One could have also used the phrase "oil and water" because that's how different the two approached their portion of the three-hour concert.

Where Henley went through the motions and gave a passable, yet uninspired performance, Nicks was more energetic and responsive to the audience. She demonstrated why there are few equals to her when it comes to female rock singers.

Each performed 80-minute solo sets that included duets with the other. However, the two had little chemistry together, which is perhaps why press photographers were not allowed to take pictures when both were on stage.

Henley appeared stiff next to theatrical Nicks and he didn't even mention Nicks' name when she came on stage during his set. His only acknowledgment was, "She'll be back," as Nicks retired backstage. When he performed during Nicks' set, Henley stood in the dark next to Nicks' guitar player until it was his turn to sing.

At one point, Henley didn't know whether to hold Nicks' hand or not when she extended her hand out to him.

He didn't.

Henley even began the concert on a slow note. He didn't take the stage until 40 minutes after the scheduled 7 p.m. start time and he opened with the curious tune "The Genie," a song from his 2000 album "Inside Job."

Both Henley and Nicks mixed their sets with solo material and songs from their bands -- the Eagles for Henley and Fleetwood Mac for Nicks.

Nicks received an ovation when she came out to perform "Hotel California," "New York Minute" and "The Last Worthless Evening." The applause continued each time she finished her part of a song.

Henley's best moments came toward the end of his set with acoustic renditions of "The End of the Innocence" and "Desparado." His one encore was "I Will Not Go Quietly," although when compared to Nicks, he actually did.

After a 15-minute intermission, it was Nicks' turn. Her singing of "Rhiannon" continues to pack a powerful punch. She was consistently strong throughout with performances of "Gold Dust Woman," "Stand Back" and "Edge of Seventeen" highlighting her set.

Henley joined Nicks for "Gold Dust Woman," "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" and "The Circle Dance." He also came out for the encore that included "Leather & Lace."

Another difference in the two performances was Nicks allowing her band members to show off their talents. She left the stage several times to change outfits and her band, especially the drummer and percussionist, kept the show moving and increased the anticipation of the next song.

If you missed the show, Henley and Nicks will perform tonight at the Tweeter Center in Mansfield, Mass.

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[skcin]

Nice! :thumbsup: I can't wait until Saturday! :blob1:

[gldstwmn]

[B]Each performed 80-minute solo sets that included duets with the other. However, the two had little chemistry together, which is perhaps why press photographers were not allowed to take pictures when both were on stage.



I wonder why? :confused: That makes no sense.

[KarmaContestant]

At one point, Henley didn't know whether to hold Nicks' hand or not when she extended her hand out to him.

He didn't.



What an ass!

[bikerchic]

Nicks, Henley no dynamic duo
While the Fleetwood Mac songstress carried her weight, the Eagles singer fell flat.
By DAVID PENCEK
Norwich Bulletin

MOHEGAN-- Don Henley and Stevie Nicks became the solo stars for two of the biggest bands during the 1970s.

In the 1980s, they both enjoyed solo success and recorded a hit duet single "Leather & Lace."

More than 20 years later, the song could have been used as an appropriate theme for the two's double-bill headlining show Monday in the Mohegan Sun Arena.

One could have also used the phrase "oil and water" because that's how different the two approached their portion of the three-hour concert.

Where Henley went through the motions and gave a passable, yet uninspired performance, Nicks was more energetic and responsive to the audience. She demonstrated why there are few equals to her when it comes to female rock singers.

Each performed 80-minute solo sets that included duets with the other. However, the two had little chemistry together, which is perhaps why press photographers were not allowed to take pictures when both were on stage.

Henley appeared stiff next to theatrical Nicks and he didn't even mention Nicks' name when she came on stage during his set. His only acknowledgment was, "She'll be back," as Nicks retired backstage. When he performed during Nicks' set, Henley stood in the dark next to Nicks' guitar player until it was his turn to sing.

At one point, Henley didn't know whether to hold Nicks' hand or not when she extended her hand out to him.

He didn't.

Henley even began the concert on a slow note. He didn't take the stage until 40 minutes after the scheduled 7 p.m. start time and he opened with the curious tune "The Genie," a song from his 2000 album "Inside Job."

Both Henley and Nicks mixed their sets with solo material and songs from their bands -- the Eagles for Henley and Fleetwood Mac for Nicks.

Nicks received an ovation when she came out to perform "Hotel California," "New York Minute" and "The Last Worthless Evening." The applause continued each time she finished her part of a song.

Henley's best moments came toward the end of his set with acoustic renditions of "The End of the Innocence" and "Desparado." His one encore was "I Will Not Go Quietly," although when compared to Nicks, he actually did.

After a 15-minute intermission, it was Nicks' turn. Her singing of "Rhiannon" continues to pack a powerful punch. She was consistently strong throughout with performances of "Gold Dust Woman," "Stand Back" and "Edge of Seventeen" highlighting her set.

Henley joined Nicks for "Gold Dust Woman," "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" and "The Circle Dance." He also came out for the encore that included "Leather & Lace."

Another difference in the two performances was Nicks allowing her band members to show off their talents. She left the stage several times to change outfits and her band, especially the drummer and percussionist, kept the show moving and increased the anticipation of the next song.

If you missed the show, Henley and Nicks will perform tonight at the Tweeter Center in Mansfield, Mass.

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Tell us something we already don't know! :nod:

[skcin]

Tell us something we already don't know! :nod:


Nice to see you again. :wavey: Have you been to busy riding with the Hell's Angels to pay us a visit?

[bikerchic]

Nice to see you again. :wavey: Have you been to busy riding with the Hell's Angels to pay us a visit?
Did you get tickets you beyotch?! :wavey:

[Livia]

Henley's best moments came toward the end of his set with acoustic renditions of "The End of the Innocence" and "Desparado." His one encore was "I Will Not Go Quietly," although when compared to Nicks, he actually did.

So they're back -and I LOVE "I Will Not Go Quietly!!" :thumbsup:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I wonder why? :confused: That makes no sense.

That is odd...

[skcin]

Did you get tickets you beyotch?! :wavey:

Workin' on it sistah! :D

[wondergirl9847]

Who put that stick up Don's a$$? C'mon, confess!!

[Dreammms]

awesome review!!!! thanks for sharing!!!
takes me back to pnc when the crowd was going crazy for stevie!
i so wish i was going tonight to boston. but at least we will have the reviews from jimmy and brian!

[KarmaContestant]

I wonder why? :confused: That makes no sense.

The only reason I can conclude is that Don has not aged as gracefully as Stevie? Perhaps he feels he looks old/fat/weird next to her, and didn't want it immortalized in newspapers? :shrug:

[AliceLover]

awesome review!!!! thanks for sharing!!!
takes me back to pnc when the crowd was going crazy for stevie!
i so wish i was going tonight to boston. but at least we will have the reviews from jimmy and brian!
:xoxo:

I can't wait!

Pattie might have a review too if she finds herself a god damn ticket! :D

[ELIUD]

If Don is a jealous person, and I don't know that he is, he might be getting tired of Stevie stealing the show during his set. According to this review, it sounds like she's getting the lion's share of the applause when they're on stage together, much like she did (and so wonderfully captured via mp3 - thanks whomever is responsible for that) in Philadelphia.

If that's the case, his current lack of enthusiasm might just last the whole tour since it took Lindsey Buckingham around 20-something years to get over the same problem.

perrr don henley....perrr perrr don henley.

[LiquidBlue5000]

awesome review!!!! thanks for sharing!!!
takes me back to pnc when the crowd was going crazy for stevie!
i so wish i was going tonight to boston. but at least we will have the reviews from jimmy and brian!

You can count on that, sister! :p

[dudden22]

Who put that stick up Don's a$$? C'mon, confess!!

Well ok..we did have a couple of wild nights together, but I don't think anything would still be left in..... :sorry:

[Nixxxed]

The review is good, but the subtitle still pisses me off. :nod:

[diamondsnake]

The review is good, but the subtitle still pisses me off. :nod:
If you are referring to the "carried her weight" thing I don't think that is meant to be a fat joke. Is it?

[littlecricket2]

Hmmm...I'm actually a little disappointed to read this. I think it's great that Stevie is getting tons of applause and recognition as well as good reviews, but if I'm gonna be seeing Stevie and Don, then I want them both to be great, ya know?! :confused:

[dudden22]

If you are referring to the "carried her weight" thing I don't think that is meant to be a fat joke. Is it?

I don't think it was a fat joke at all.

[bikerchic]

If that's the case, his current lack of enthusiasm might just last the whole tour since it took Lindsey Buckingham around 20-something years to get over the same problem.


Did Lindsey get over it though? :shrug:

[Dreammms]

:xoxo:

I can't wait!

Pattie might have a review too if she finds herself a god damn ticket! :D


good luck pattie :xoxo: :blob1: :blob2:

[diamondsnake]

Hmmm...I'm actually a little disappointed to read this. I think it's great that Stevie is getting tons of applause and recognition as well as good reviews, but if I'm gonna be seeing Stevie and Don, then I want them both to be great, ya know?! :confused:
Well how many artists are really going to seem great standing next to Stevie Nicks? Not many performers can hold a candle to her... she has some power over her audience or something.

[ELIUD]

Did Lindsey get over it though? :shrug:
I hope he did. They may have had some kind of mutual agreement to share the spotlight equally since I never noticed Stevie wearing any shig guards over her pantyhose.

[Kelly]

That is the exact impression I had of the show in Philly. Stevie really stole the show...although not intentionally. She is just fantastic. She tried with Don but he was sort of unresponsive to some degree. I mean he did respond SOME but not much, IMHO. He wouldnt even look at her while they were singing to each other. It was bizarre but I still enjoyed the show immensely.

(cause of Stevie.... :lol: )

[Hawkeye]

Do you think Stevie purposely chose to share a bill with the most boring person possible, to make herself look as good as possible :laugh:

[sweetgypsygirl]

If Don is a jealous person, and I don't know that he is, he might be getting tired of Stevie stealing the show during his set. According to this review, it sounds like she's getting the lion's share of the applause when they're on stage together, much like she did (and so wonderfully captured via mp3 - thanks whomever is responsible for that) in Philadelphia.

If that's the case, his current lack of enthusiasm might just last the whole tour since it took Lindsey Buckingham around 20-something years to get over the same problem.

perrr don henley....perrr perrr don henley.

I'm pretty sure Lindsey still isn't over that....hence the hot black pants now that he isn't on stage with her!!!

[Lee]

That is the exact impression I had of the show in Philly. Stevie really stole the show...although not intentionally. She is just fantastic. She tried with Don but he was sort of unresponsive to some degree. I mean he did respond SOME but not much, IMHO. He wouldnt even look at her while they were singing to each other. It was bizarre but I still enjoyed the show immensely.

(cause of Stevie.... :lol: )

ITA, this exactly how I saw it in Philly. I mean he still sounds good; they sound good together, but as far as interacting together, there's nothing there. I was there, too, to support Stevie. I felt bad for her though b/c of how he was acting.

I've never seen the Eagles perform. Does he act like this when he's with the other Eagles?

Thanks for posting the review, btw.

Lee :)

[Rickypt]

I went to a Don Henley benefit show in Phoenix back in March of '97, as Stevie was a special guest. During his set, people starting screaming "Stevie" after every song and he got really irritated. Can't say I really blame him. So when he introduced her, he said something like "here's what you came to hear."

Perhaps the same thing is going on here. He is realizing that the majority of people are coming to see Stevie and it's bugging him. Add to that the fact that he's already demonstrated that he's not into the tour, as he went on record saying he would scrap it to go in the recording studio with the Eagles.

[glitter_fades]

Who put that stick up Don's a$$

I think I know. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cliffdweller]

That is the exact impression I had of the show in Philly. Stevie really stole the show...although not intentionally. She is just fantastic. She tried with Don but he was sort of unresponsive to some degree. I mean he did respond SOME but not much, IMHO. He wouldnt even look at her while they were singing to each other. It was bizarre but I still enjoyed the show immensely.

(cause of Stevie.... :lol: )

Ugggghhhh!!!! Don Henley is such an ass! Why did he even agree to tour with her if he's going to be such a tit about everything she does? It's nice to hear that Stevie is in rare form though. With glowing reviews like these, I can't wait to see her!

[Highwayman]

Well, either Don will get angry being an "opening" act for Stevie and quit the tour early, or he can let Stevie go first, and then play his music as the crowds leave...

[dissention]

Ugggghhhh!!!! Don Henley is such an ass! Why did he even agree to tour with her if he's going to be such a tit about everything she does? It's nice to hear that Stevie is in rare form though. With glowing reviews like these, I can't wait to see her!

C'mon, silly. All of Stevie's old boyfriends, be it Lindey or Don, are just insanely jealous of her and everything she does. Her very presence makes their skin crawl because she's just so beloved, and they've still not gotten over her. If she ever appears reserved onstage, it's their fault. If she wears nothing but Blackdress, it's their fault. Decades after the fact, it's all true. And Don's not going to let her sing on his songs any more, that insecure ass.

:rolleyes: :laugh: Good gawd.

"And when they ask her, about the men in her life...and they do ask her...she says 'Well, they were controlling, they were jealous...ahhhh, but they were priests of nothing because I'm so much more beloved than they are.'"

[dissention]

Well, either Don will get angry being an "opening" act for Stevie and quit the tour early, or he can let Stevie go first, and then play his music as the crowds leave...

Yeah, because people are only showing up for Stevie. They don't give a fiddler's fart about Don.

[glitter_fades]

C'mon, silly. All of Stevie's old boyfriends, be it Lindey or Don, are just insanely jealous of her and everything she does. Her very presence makes their skin crawl because she's just so beloved, and they've still not gotten over her. If she ever appears reserved onstage, it's their fault. If she wears nothing but Blackdress, it's their fault. Decades after the fact, it's all true. And Don's not going to let her sing on his songs any more, that insecure ass.

:rolleyes: :laugh: Good gawd.

"And when they ask her, about the men in her life...and they do ask her...she says 'Well, they were controlling, they were jealous...ahhhh, but they were priests of nothing because I'm so much more beloved than they are.'"

No ****, Sherlock. :lol: The fact that Don is boring 365 days a year is not withstanding.
His problem is not hitting the bong with her before the show. :lol:

[dissention]

No ****, Sherlock. :lol: The fact that Don is boring 365 days a year is not withstanding.
His problem is not hitting the bong with her before the show. :lol:

I'm telling ya, this whole "Conspiracy of Stevie's Ex-Lovers" gets wilder with each passing tour. :laugh: I can't stand the man we call Don Henley (and was he ever anything but boring?), but good gawd.

[SapphireSister]

I am SO glad I am seeing her solo. I'd be throwing tomatoes at Don for sure.
What an asshole. I hope he feels how much more the crowd is into Stevie then him and feels really damn insecure :p

[Nixxxed]

If you are referring to the "carried her weight" thing I don't think that is meant to be a fat joke. Is it?
I don't know for sure - only the "reviewer" does. But the way I look at it - out of all the tired, overused, meaningless cliches he/she *could* have used, they pick that one?

Sorry - still a little sensitive after all these years. :laugh: :sorry:

[ELIUD]

Not that I'm going to see them on this tour, I would have if they made it to Dallas, but I'm really pissed they're not singing "the highwayman". I love it so much more than Leather and Lace and it really seems so apropos.

[amber]

C'mon, silly. All of Stevie's old boyfriends, be it Lindey or Don, are just insanely jealous of her and everything she does. Her very presence makes their skin crawl because she's just so beloved, and they've still not gotten over her. If she ever appears reserved onstage, it's their fault. If she wears nothing but Blackdress, it's their fault. Decades after the fact, it's all true. And Don's not going to let her sing on his songs any more, that insecure ass.

:rolleyes: :laugh: Good gawd.

"And when they ask her, about the men in her life...and they do ask her...she says 'Well, they were controlling, they were jealous...ahhhh, but they were priests of nothing because I'm so much more beloved than they are.'"
Well, your snark notwithstanding, It actually seems that Don is acting like a jealous titmonkey, and turning in bad performances because of it. :shrug: It's not a conspiracy theory, it's based on what people are witnessing about his attitude towards Stevie and his performance overall. I know you like to take miss thing down, but it sounds like people have a true point about Don.

[dissention]

Well, your snark notwithstanding, It actually seems that Don is acting like a jealous titmonkey, and turning in bad performances because of it. :shrug: It's not a conspiracy theory, it's based on what people are witnessing about his attitude towards Stevie and his performance overall. I know you like to take miss thing down, but it sounds like people have a true point about Don.

Are these performances any different from ones he's given in the past? Not that I can really tell, he's always been a bit boring and reserved. Is he supposed to introduce Miss Thing every time she comes onstage, even though she quite obviously shares half of the bloody bill and her presence is no shocker? I think not, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. Was he snubbing her by not holding her hand at this one show? Pfffft, I highly doubt it. Is it just speculation that he's jealous? Yes, it is. This is the guy that performs at her benefit concerts and invites her to perform at his benefit concerts. He's made surprise appearances at her solo shows over the years and the two seem to be truly good friends (why, I'll never know, especially after that GQ article; Miss Thing must be a very forgiving person). I highly, highly doubt that he's brimming with jealously of her on this current ten-date tour, but that's just me.

[glitter_fades]

Well, your snark notwithstanding, It actually seems that Don is acting like a jealous titmonkey, and turning in bad performances because of it. :shrug: It's not a conspiracy theory, it's based on what people are witnessing about his attitude towards Stevie and his performance overall. I know you like to take miss thing down, but it sounds like people have a true point about Don.

Newsflash! They guys's an a$$. He bailed out of this tour months ago. Did anyone else including Stevie really think he was going to be Mr. Personality for these few shows he is doing? No skin off her nose to play off of his indifference and lack of enthusiasm to her advantage. If I were her I'd have kicked his arrogant ass year's ago. I don't know why she's still friends with him when he's done a lot of things to insult her publicly over the years, but Stevie knows how to keep friends in high places she might need sometime down the road. Girfriend's a pro. Go for it, Stevie! Show Don up for the tool he is. Of course, she's one too. She just operates with a more subtle approach. She always knows how to play these arrogant men and their attitudes to her advantage. What a woman! :laugh:

[dissention]

Newsflash! They guys's an a$$. He bailed out of this tour months ago. Did anyone else including Stevie really think he was going to be Mr. Personality for these few shows he is doing? No skin off her nose to play off of his indifference and lack of enthusiasm to her advantage. Girfriend's a pro. Go for it, Stevie! Show Don up for the tool he is. Of course, she's one too. She just operates with a more subtle approach. She always knows how to play these arrogant men and their attitudes to her advantage. What a woman! :laugh:

Exactly! :laugh: His current behavior is the same as his past behavior, there's no difference that I can spot.

[strandinthewind]

Are these performances any different from ones he's given in the past? Not that I can really tell, he's always been a bit boring and reserved. Is he supposed to introduce Miss Thing every time she comes onstage, even though she quite obviously shares half of the bloody bill and her presence is no shocker? I think not, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. Was he snubbing her by not holding her hand at this one show? Pfffft, I highly doubt it. Is it just speculation that he's jealous? Yes, it is. This is the guy that performs at her benefit concerts and invites her to perform at his benefit concerts. He's made surprise appearances at her solo shows over the years and the two seem to be truly good friends (why, I'll never know, especially after that GQ article; Miss Thing must be a very forgiving person). I highly, highly doubt that he's brimming with jealously of her on this current ten-date tour, but that's just me.

I have to say I agree. I like some of his music, but I think Don is boring stage performer as I have seen him before :cool:

[amber]

Are these performances any different from ones he's given in the past? Not that I can really tell, he's always been a bit boring and reserved. Is he supposed to introduce Miss Thing every time she comes onstage, even though she quite obviously shares half of the bloody bill and her presence is no shocker? I think not, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. Was he snubbing her by not holding her hand at this one show? Pfffft, I highly doubt it. Is it just speculation that he's jealous? Yes, it is. This is the guy that performs at her benefit concerts and invites her to perform at his benefit concerts. He's made surprise appearances at her solo shows over the years and the two seem to be truly good friends (why, I'll never know, especially after that GQ article; Miss Thing must be a very forgiving person). I highly, highly doubt that he's brimming with jealously of her on this current ten-date tour, but that's just me.
Whatever, it still doesn't mean he's not jealous. He may not be. But, I don't think it's outside the realm of possiblity. And, certainly the tone of your post was very ridiculously over the top about people's comments about Don's performances.
Good Day.

[dissention]

And, certainly the tone of your post was very ridiculously over the top about people's comments about Don's performances.

Oh well. I find the speculation that he'll kick her from singing his songs to be even more over the top, but that's just me. :laugh:

[Serrart]

I don't think Lindsey or Don are jealous, but if you have a rock 'n roll icon in her full splendor it's difficult for anybody to compete. In Lindsey's case she tries to hold back to let him more space and that's a pity. He's a grown up and doesn't need anybody to look after him, I think. With Don she seems more relaxed, there isn't that kind of full tension dynamic, that's exciting, but has to be also quite difficult to manage, sometimes.

Romy

[dissention]

I have to say I agree. I like some of his music, but I think Don is boring stage performer as I have seen him before :cool:

He is soooooooo dull. His voice gives me a headache, but it's quickly soothed once I fall asleep from seeing him perform.

[glitter_fades]

Oh well. I find the speculation that he'll kick her from singing his songs to be even more over the top, but that's just me. :laugh:

Everyone's jealous of Stevie. Don't you know that? Oops! I forgot. That's why you're always raggin' on her. JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[dissention]

I don't think Lindsey or Don are jealous, but if you have a rock 'n roll icon in her full splendor it's difficult for anybody to compete. In Lindsey's case she tries to hold back to let him more space and that's a pity. He's a grown up and doesn't need anybody to look after him, I think. With Don she seems more relaxed, there isn't that kind of full tension dynamic, that's exciting, but has to be also quite difficult to manage, sometimes.

Romy

I think a lot of what people are seeing as "jealousy" on this Don-Stevie tour is more nervousness than anything else. Neither of them have done this before with each other, so it must be kind of rough when you start out, not having established much of a chemistry or knowing what will make it seem like you're stepping on the other performer's shoes.

[dissention]

Everyone's jealous of Stevie. Don't you know that? Oops! I forgot. That's why you're always raggin' on her. JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Sshhh, I told you that in private. :p Talk about airing some dirty laundry...

[amber]

Everyone's jealous of Stevie. Don't you know that? Oops! I forgot. That's why you're always raggin' on her. JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Um, not to be rude, but Lindsey very obviously was jealous of her at some points. I'm not saying he should've been, but he was. But, I know you will ignore any evidence that shows that, so, have fun. :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Everyone's jealous of Stevie. Don't you know that? Oops! I forgot. That's why you're always raggin' on her. JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:There's gotta be some reason an adult would spend the majority of their free-time tearing apart someone they've never met, no? :laugh:

[Serrart]

I think a lot of what people are seeing as "jealousy" on this Don-Stevie tour is more nervousness than anything else. Neither of them have done this before with each other, so it must be kind of rough when you start out, not having established much of a chemistry or knowing what will make it seem like you're stepping on the other performer's shoes.

I agree, and honestly I think it's already going pretty well. They're very different as performers but the contrast could fill the stage in a very appealing way. Don just has to loosen up a bit. :cool:

Romy

[glitter_fades]

I think a lot of what people are seeing as "jealousy" on this Don-Stevie tour is more nervousness than anything else. Neither of them have done this before with each other, so it must be kind of rough when you start out, not having established much of a chemistry or knowing what will make it seem like you're stepping on the other performer's shoes.

People always mention "jealousy" when talking about Stevie's friction with some of the men she's performed with. Ok, so some of her male counterparts don't always fawn over her the way she or her fans would like. When anyone comes off as less than enthused around her, why do her fans immediately assume friction or indifference with another performer to be due to their burning jealousy of her talent or popularity? I'm not saying it isn't so. Couldn't be because she's always saying or implying others are jealous of her emense talent and star power? Nah. Stevie isn't presumptuous to think or imply such a thing. She's too gracious a person to ever do that. :D

[glitter_fades]

Um, not to be rude, but Lindsey very obviously was jealous of her at some points. I'm not saying he should've been, but he was. But, I know you will ignore any evidence that shows that, so, have fun. :wavey:

I would never say he wasn't jealous. I think we might have a different opinion on the nature of his jealousy, but I would not argue he wasn't or isn't jealous. Why are you saying I'd ignore any evidence of that? Do I have to start calling you, Jason ? :laugh:

Sheesh! Now I have two people speaking for me about what my opinions are. :xoxo:

:wavey:

[HenleyFan]

So....Don is jealous because there is a stipulation that photographers are not allowed to take photos of the 2 of them on stage? Now I think I have heard it all :confused:

It's much more likely that Don (I can't speak about Stevie...I don't follow her) doesn't want photographic fodder for tabloid magazines out there. Imagine a photo of them slow-dancing and the headline that would appear in the STAR.

Don is an incredibly giving and humble guy. While he does stand up for himself when the occaision warrents it, it's nearly impossible to hear him muttering...

Must....control...photographers....Stevie.....looks....good.....

in a manaical way.

Apparently, Don has been incredibly gracious already...allowing Stevie her choice of performance order and other things she's asked for. That doesn't sound like someone acting out of jealousy.

Just the two cents from this side of things.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

[amber]

People always mention "jealousy" when talking about Stevie's friction with some of the men she's performed with. Ok, so some of her male counterparts don't always fawn over her the way she or her fans would like. When anyone comes off as less than enthused around her, why do her fans immediately assume friction or indifference with another performer to be due to their burning jealousy of her talent or popularity? I'm not saying it isn't so. Couldn't be because she's always saying or implying others are jealous of her emense talent and star power? Nah. Stevie isn't presumptuous to think or imply such a thing. She's too gracious a person to ever do that. :D
:shocked: :shocked:
what are you even talking about? :confused: That whole post was very ....baseless? Empty? to me... :confused:
Are you saying Stevie is going around implying everyone is jealous of her? I haven't really heard her say that, except for a few stories that have been related about Lindsey's behavior a few times over the years. :confused: And friction may imply jealousy. I think most of whoever Stevie worked with were not jealous of her, but I think some people were. Maybe not constantly, but definitely jealous, none the less. But, whatever, maybe someone who agrees with you will understand your post better? :confused: :wavey:

[Serrart]

People always mention "jealousy" when talking about Stevie's friction with some of the men she's performed with. Ok, so some of her male counterparts don't always fawn over her the way she or her fans would like. When anyone comes off as less than enthused around her, why do her fans immediately assume friction or indifference with another performer to be due to their burning jealousy of her talent or popularity? I'm not saying it isn't so. Couldn't be because she's always saying or implying others are jealous of her emense talent and star power? Nah. Stevie isn't presumptuous to think or imply such a thing. She's too gracious a person to ever do that. :D

Has it necessary to be a guilt fest? By the way, besides the words, the suspects, the existing or non-existing hidden jealousies, the "what if's.. ", ''he/she should..." only the stage gives the measure of an unforgettable performer and that's what the public remembers, looks for and respects.

Romy

[glitter_fades]

:shocked: :shocked:
what are you even talking about? :confused: That whole post was very ....baseless? Empty? to me... :confused:
Are you saying Stevie is going around implying everyone is jealous of her? I haven't really heard her say that, except for a few stories that have been related about Lindsey's behavior a few times over the years. :confused: And friction may imply jealousy. I think most of whoever Stevie worked with were not jealous of her, but I think some people were. Maybe not constantly, but definitely jealous, none the less. But, whatever, maybe someone who agrees with you will understand your post better? :confused: :wavey:

People who know what Stevie's been saying since she was in Fritz know what I'm talking about.

:angel:

[amber]

People who know what Stevie's been saying since she was in Fritz know what I'm talking about.

:angel:
Okay. I know what Stevie has been saying since she was in Fritz, and I came to different conclusions. :angel:

[glitter_fades]

Okay. I know what Stevie has been saying since she was in Fritz, and I came to different conclusions. :angel:

That's perfectly understandable. :wavey:

[GardenStateGirlie]

What's the Stevie quote from TISL era?? Something like...I'm still young, i'm pretty cute and I rock :angel:

[Serrart]

So....Don is jealous because there is a stipulation that photographers are not allowed to take photos of the 2 of them on stage? Now I think I have heard it all :confused:

It's much more likely that Don (I can't speak about Stevie...I don't follow her) doesn't want photographic fodder for tabloid magazines out there. Imagine a photo of them slow-dancing and the headline that would appear in the STAR.

Don is an incredibly giving and humble guy. While he does stand up for himself when the occaision warrents it, it's nearly impossible to hear him muttering...

Must....control...photographers....Stevie.....looks....good.....

in a manaical way.

:laugh: I don't think he's jealous either.I can't figure why there's this embargo for photographers, but it wouldn't help at all to keep images away from tabloids, IMO, if that's the reason. I didn't know what to think about this tour before it started but now I'm really glad they had this idea. The way they sing together gongs like Hotel California, New York Minute or Circle Dance is haunting, IMO. I wasn't crazy about Don Henley before 'Two Voices', but now I respect him as a performer and his music more. :)

Romy

[Lee]

So....Don is jealous because there is a stipulation that photographers are not allowed to take photos of the 2 of them on stage? Now I think I have heard it all :confused:

It's much more likely that Don (I can't speak about Stevie...I don't follow her) doesn't want photographic fodder for tabloid magazines out there. Imagine a photo of them slow-dancing and the headline that would appear in the STAR.

Don is an incredibly giving and humble guy. While he does stand up for himself when the occaision warrents it, it's nearly impossible to hear him muttering...

Must....control...photographers....Stevie.....looks....good.....

in a manaical way.

Apparently, Don has been incredibly gracious already...allowing Stevie her choice of performance order and other things she's asked for. That doesn't sound like someone acting out of jealousy.

Just the two cents from this side of things.

L&M
www.eagelsfans.com

So maybe you can clear some things up, & btw, I never thought about jealousy. I'm just curious b/c I hadn't heard this "allowing Stevie her choice of performance order & other things she's asked for." And you heard all this where & what other things did she's ask for? :confused:

And I don't understand why he didn't want to pose with her in front of photograhers even if it was just publicity shots for their short tour. Don't you think people in the audience snapped some shots of them together when they were hugging during the show, maybe even some Ledgies? And I'm sure these pictures will be circulating & wind up on Ebay, & who knows, :shrug: maybe the National Enquirer.

Have you seen the Eagles live? I'm just curious as to how Don performs with just the Eagles.

Lee :)

[Rickypt]

The article never said which artist is behind the ban on pictures of the two of them.

I'd say that it's just as likely -- if not more--that it is Stevie's idea. Henley comes across as gruff, but he doesn't seem like someone who really cares about his public image.

Then we have Stevie--someone who canned her Stand Back video because she thought she was fat, ridiculously and obviously redid her closeups for Red Rocks and Tango In The Night, and clearly made sure that the majority of closeups from Live in Boston are from her neck up.

I'm not sure what the reasoning would be, but my money is on Stevie.

[Johnny Stew]

The article never said which artist is behind the ban on pictures of the two of them.

I'd say that it's just as likely -- if not more--that it is Stevie's idea. Henley comes across as gruff, but he doesn't seem like someone who really cares about his public image.

Then we have Stevie--someone who canned her Stand Back video because she thought she was fat, ridiculously and obviously redid her closeups for Red Rocks and Tango In The Night, and clearly made sure that the majority of closeups from Live in Boston are from her neck up.

I'm not sure what the reasoning would be, but my money is on Stevie.The AP Archives have more than a dozen professionally-shot pics of Stevie from the 'Say You Will' tour, and professional photographers were also allowed to take photos in Vegas. So I doubt she'd suddenly put a ban on them... especially when she seems to be feeling really good about herself.

But I'm not saying it's Don's "fault" either. Perhaps it's just a mutual agreement they came to, for a reason not even related to vanity.

[HenleyFan]

According to Glenn Frey, we've seen the Eagles 700 times. In reality it's more like 70. Don is usually very quiet during Eagles shows because Eagles shows are about the band, not him. Glenn is the band spokesperson and emcee so he does all the talking and Don does very little.

At solo shows, though, he is a different person. He's funny. He's chatty. He tells stories. He talks to the audience. We haven't seen Don and Stevie yet so we're reserving judgement, but it sounds like he's off a little bit or he's letting her have the spotlight because he's a gentleman.

As for photos.....when the tickets say "no cameras" Don fully expects there won't be any cameras in the audience. He's not a big fan of having flashes go off in his face all night. He says it hurts his eyes.

The article I referenced is from today's Boston Herald:

http://theedge.bostonherald.com/musicNews/view.bg?articleid=88456


L&M
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So maybe you can clear some things up, & btw, I never thought about jealousy. I'm just curious b/c I hadn't heard this "allowing Stevie her choice of performance order & other things she's asked for." And you heard all this where & what other things did she's ask for? :confused:

And I don't understand why he didn't want to pose with her in front of photograhers even if it was just publicity shots for their short tour. Don't you think people in the audience snapped some shots of them together when they were hugging during the show, maybe even some Ledgies? And I'm sure these pictures will be circulating & wind up on Ebay, & who knows, :shrug: maybe the National Enquirer.

Have you seen the Eagles live? I'm just curious as to how Don performs with just the Eagles.

Lee :)

[Rickypt]

Don Henley is nothing if not a gentleman.

When asked in what order he and ``Two Voices'' tourmate Stevie Nicks would perform at their co-headlining show at the Tweeter Center in Mansfield tonight, Henley laughs.

``I'm going to go first every night,'' he says, ``because there are certain things that she has to have.''

Those include, but are not limited to, special lighting, time for costume changes and the proper performing temperature.

``I'm just a guy,'' Henley says. ``Guys don't mind sweating. I'm just going to go first and that will make my life a lot simpler.''
----------------------------------------------------

I think being a true "gentleman" would be to simply say that he is going first without laughing and talking about Stevie's special needs and saying that he just wants to make his life simpler.

A gentleman doesn't call attention to himself or make a big deal when doing something gracious.

[Keith]

i'm not gonna analyze or theorize or spend too much time thinking about the who what why and where..

BECAUSE.. I'm really loving the songs that I have from this tour so far. My latest CD burn includes a mix of the cuts from the Philly and Holmdel shows that have surfaced. and to me, Don sounds pretty good... of course I think Stevie rules, because she's my favorite, but I've always loved Don's voice and it doesn't disappoint me on what I've heard so far.

I'm sure Stevie has her Diva moments, but all I can truly say is that I feel blessed that my favorite songwriter is still around singing to her fans. Not all music fans are as lucky. She's still my girl!

:-)

[MacMan]

He's not a big fan of having flashes go off in his face all night. He says it hurts his eyes.

But he sings with his eyes closed apparently... so it shouldn't bother him too much.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Looks to me that they're having fun, seems like a good show...and all this picking apart is just silly to me. If you don't like Don Henley, it's simple don't go to a double bill in which he is a part of...if you hate him that much, and that's certainly your choice--by all means don't give him your hard earned money, and some of you aren't--but some are..

I agree they seem a little nervous about the whole thing still, they sound great on eachothers' songs.. I mean if you pick apart every move you will find something..uh oh Don didnt grab Stevie's lace when she offered it to him, he must hate this tour.

Chris

[strandinthewind]

He goes first because he does not want everyone to leave after La Nicks finishes her set :laugh:

[GardenStateGirlie]

But he sings with his eyes closed apparently... so it shouldn't bother him too much.

:laugh: Not to mention, most fans are curtious and do not use a flash.

[Dreammms]

But he sings with his eyes closed apparently... so it shouldn't bother him too much.

yes he does do that ;)


question for you henleyfan...

does don ever introduce the members of his band on his solo tour? that's still bothering me. i watched some boots today from stevie's shows when frank was her guitarist and he seemed to be very happy when he got acknowledged.

[HenleyFan]

Don usually does introduce his band. It's kind of weird that he isn't. I don't know if he just feels weird doing it half way through the show of if he's trying to save his voice (he has been having problems with it) by doing as little talking as possible. It's not like him to not introduce the band.

L&M
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does don ever introduce the members of his band on his solo tour? that's still bothering me. i watched some boots today from stevie's shows when frank was her guitarist and he seemed to be very happy when he got acknowledged.

[lagringader&r]

Looks to me that they're having fun, seems like a good show...and all this picking apart is just silly to me. If you don't like Don Henley, it's simple don't go to a double bill in which he is a part of...if you hate him that much, and that's certainly your choice--by all means don't give him your hard earned money, and some of you aren't--but some are..

I agree they seem a little nervous about the whole thing still, they sound great on eachothers' songs.. I mean if you pick apart every move you will find something..uh oh Don didnt grab Stevie's lace when she offered it to him, he must hate this tour.

Chris

I agree with all of this. Why is everyone assuming Don is a butt-reaming asshole? So, he's quiet on stage, he's not touchy-feely, he doesn't want his picture taken, he keeps his eyes closed. He's got his quirks. So does Stevie. It sounds like he's been putting on a good show. That's the main thing. And, maybe he's not comfortable with Stevie hugging all up on him. They haven't had this on-going friendship from what I gather over the years, so maybe it makes him uncomfortable. They did have a past. He just sounds reserved and not a touchy-feely kind of guy. No sweat. :shrug: Personally, I hope they do this again real soon after Don finishes his current obligations with the Eagles because I would love to see it! :thumbsup:

[catinthedark]

i'm not gonna analyze or theorize or spend too much time thinking about the who what why and where..

BECAUSE.. I'm really loving the songs that I have from this tour so far. My latest CD burn includes a mix of the cuts from the Philly and Holmdel shows that have surfaced. and to me, Don sounds pretty good... of course I think Stevie rules, because she's my favorite, but I've always loved Don's voice and it doesn't disappoint me on what I've heard so far.

I'm sure Stevie has her Diva moments, but all I can truly say is that I feel blessed that my favorite songwriter is still around singing to her fans. Not all music fans are as lucky. She's still my girl!

:-)

Dude, it's like you're living in my head. :thumbsup:

And I was just listening to my newest burned CD of tracks from Vegas and the first two Stevie-Don shows on my way home from work tonight - in absolute anticipation of next Saturday night!

[KarmaContestant]

I agree with all of this. Why is everyone assuming Don is a butt-reaming asshole? So, he's quiet on stage, he's not touchy-feely, he doesn't want his picture taken, he keeps his eyes closed. He's got his quirks. So does Stevie. It sounds like he's been putting on a good show. That's the main thing. And, maybe he's not comfortable with Stevie hugging all up on him. They haven't had this on-going friendship from what I gather over the years, so maybe it makes him uncomfortable. They did have a past. He just sounds reserved and not a touchy-feely kind of guy. No sweat. :shrug: Personally, I hope they do this again real soon after Don finishes his current obligations with the Eagles because I would love to see it! :thumbsup:

Well said. I, however, do think Don is an ass - but certainly not an asshole (he's a man. aren't we all asses? :nod: ). I also think he's an amazing artist who is incredibly talented. The boots I've heard from the shows with Stevie are great, they sound so good on stage together, and since I live in Colorado, I too really hope that they do this tour again next year, and play in the western US. Wait.....do I want Stevie on the road with Don next year, or do I want her in the studio? Now I'm uncertain. If the lady could manage to pull an album out of her ass during the fall and winter of this year (yeah, right) I'd really like them to tour next summer. Otherwise, I'd hope she'd say 'bye bye, Don, I have an album to record'.

God, her and Don should do an album of Motown tunes. That would be nice.

[Alexbt]

Well, so far I am the first person to post in this topic who has just gotten back from the Tweeter Center Performance.

There was quite a bit of hugging and twiriling between them tonight, though Don really didn't talk much.

It was pretty obvious that most of the audience was there to see Stevie--everyone went nuts every time she came on or sang.

Not to say people didn't like Don--There was applause and standing for stuff like Hotel California, Life in the Fast Lane, etc. (his more popular songs).

Seeing Stevie for the first time was amazing. What a cool experience! And the songs just keep evolving--it's quite different than what I've heard on earlier tour boots/CDs/DVDs. Very Live In Boston + Solo Stevie--it's the best way I can describe it.

I'm hoping that someone did a boot. ;)

BTW, I did notice some camera flashes going off in the audience in the front sections...

I also kinda wish there were projections so you could see their faces. I was sitting in Section 4 Row J, which wasn't too bad, but kinda squinty.

What a night...

[lagringader&r]

Well said. I, however, do think Don is an ass - but certainly not an asshole (he's a man. aren't we all asses? :nod: ). I also think he's an amazing artist who is incredibly talented. The boots I've heard from the shows with Stevie are great, they sound so good on stage together, and since I live in Colorado, I too really hope that they do this tour again next year, and play in the western US. Wait.....do I want Stevie on the road with Don next year, or do I want her in the studio? Now I'm uncertain. If the lady could manage to pull an album out of her ass during the fall and winter of this year (yeah, right) I'd really like them to tour next summer. Otherwise, I'd hope she'd say 'bye bye, Don, I have an album to record'.

God, her and Don should do an album of Motown tunes. That would be nice.

Well, if you're a man and can say that all men are assholes, more power to ya. :laugh: I think Don said an asshole thing about Stevie a long time ago but, hell, if she can get over it and tour with the guy, so can I (not tour with him, just get over it..)

I want what you want. All of it. :laugh: I want her to finish up her stint with him, finish up her solo tour, take a short break for her benefit, get back in the studio and put out a kick-ass album to be released late this year or early next year, tour for that, then a few short gigs in Vegas, then tour again with Henley by summer of next year. I don't ask the girl for much.. :laugh: (Good thing I'm not her manager). I might be one of the only ones that's ok with her not *planning* anything with FM, as of now. I want large doses of her on her own and a few with Henley. Yes, and next time, make it to the west coast please! :D

[lagringader&r]

Well, so far I am the first person to post in this topic who has just gotten back from the Tweeter Center Performance.

There was quite a bit of hugging and twiriling between them tonight, though Don really didn't talk much.

It was pretty obvious that most of the audience was there to see Stevie--everyone went nuts every time she came on or sang.

Not to say people didn't like Don--There was applause and standing for stuff like Hotel California, Life in the Fast Lane, etc. (his more popular songs).

Seeing Stevie for the first time was amazing. What a cool experience! And the songs just keep evolving--it's quite different than what I've heard on earlier tour boots/CDs/DVDs. Very Live In Boston + Solo Stevie--it's the best way I can describe it.

I'm hoping that someone did a boot. ;)

BTW, I did notice some camera flashes going off in the audience in the front sections...

I also kinda wish there were projections so you could see their faces. I was sitting in Section 4 Row J, which wasn't too bad, but kinda squinty.

What a night...

Sounds like Don is loosening up a little. Seems like Eagles fans might not stand as much as FM fans? Maybe the Eagles fans are a little more laidback and the FM/Stevie fans are more, well, fanatical. :D Glad you had fun!

[svnwndrs]

So they're back -and I LOVE "I Will Not Go Quietly!!" :thumbsup:

THEY'RE back??? No, Don isn't back...but Stevie is. Rock on girl! :)

[BombaySapphire3]

I'm sure Don knows he cannot compete with La Nicks in the realm of charisma and stage presence so I can't imagine he'd bother being jealous after knowing her for 30 years. Some people have a star aura and some do not.This thread reminds me of Rolling Stone article about Kenny Loggins in 1978 in which La Nicks joined him to sing WICYF."A swirl of white chiffon and photographers rush the aisles.The loudest applause of the evening is heard as Stevie Nick takes the stage and the handsome Californian seems almost invisible in her presence" Now Loggins IMO is a significantly more animated performer than Henley so I can imagine the contrast between he and Nicks.But jealous? I doubt it.

[strandinthewind]

I'm sure Don knows he cannot compete with La Nicks in the realm of charisma and stage presence so I can't imagine he'd bother being jealous after knowing her for 30 years. Some people have a star aura and some do not.This thread reminds me of Rolling Stone article about Kenny Loggins in 1978 in which La Nicks joined him to sing WICYF."A swirl of white chiffon and photographers rush the aisles.The loudest applause of the evening is heard as Stevie Nick takes the stage and the handsome Californian seems almost invisible in her presence" Now Loggins IMO is a significantly more animated performer than Henley so I can imagine the contrast between he and Nicks.But jealous? I doubt it.

Is there a boot of this performance? If so, can some kind soul send it to me at [email protected]

and, yes, I remember that review and the recview of the record, which questioned why Loggins was singing harmony on his own song :laugh: To this day, that is one of her best vocals ever IMO.

[Livia]

THEY'RE back??? No, Don isn't back...but Stevie is. Rock on girl! :)

I meant Desperado and End of the Innocence were back in Don's set. :)

[cliffdweller]

He goes first because he does not want everyone to leave after La Nicks finishes her set :laugh:

There ya go.

And btw, what is UP with your signature?!?!? :laugh::laugh: It just doesn't sound like you is all :D.

[strandinthewind]

There ya go.

And btw, what is UP with your signature?!?!? :laugh::laugh: It just doesn't sound like you is all :D.


I just love Led Zep. and a friend of mine and I were just talking about that song and how the lyrics were all about the Vikings to wit:

Immigrant Song
(Page/Plant)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore,
Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords.

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

http://www.led-zeppelin.com/lyrics.html

__________________________________________

We then noted that "Valhalla" was like the Tolkienian city of Edoras, home of the Horse Lords, to wit:

Valhalla, Hall of the Slain, in Norse mythology is the hall presided over by Odin. This vast hall has five hundred and forty doors. The rafters are spears, the hall is roofed with shields and breast-plates litter the benches. A wolf guards the western door and an eagle hovers over it. It is here that the Valkyries, Odin's messengers and spirits of war, bring half of the heroes that died on the battle fields (the rest go to Freya's hall Folkvang). These heroes, the Einherjar, are prepared in Valhalla for the oncoming battle of Ragnarok. When the battle commences, eight hundred warriors will march shoulder to shoulder out of each door.
Old Norse: Valhöll

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/v/valhalla.html

I then noted that Tolkien sampled from Viking myth as well as others, to wit:

Midgard

In Norse myth, the defensive fortress which the gods build about the middle portion of the earth allotted to men in order to protect mankind from the giants. Midgard ("middle world") is on the same level as Nidavellir (land of the dwarfs), Svartalfheim (land of the dark elves/dwarfs) and Jotunheim (the land of the giants).

Old Norse: Midgardr

which sounds a lot like Middle Earth!!!!!!
______________________________________________

Just your regular Thurs. morning coffee break chat around here :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

I just love Led Zep. and a friend of mine and I were just talking about that song and how the lyrics were all about the Vikings to wit:

Immigrant Song
(Page/Plant)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore,
Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords.

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

http://www.led-zeppelin.com/lyrics.html

__________________________________________

We then noted that "Valhalla" was like the Tolkienian city of Edoras, home of the Horse Lords, to wit:

Valhalla, Hall of the Slain, in Norse mythology is the hall presided over by Odin. This vast hall has five hundred and forty doors. The rafters are spears, the hall is roofed with shields and breast-plates litter the benches. A wolf guards the western door and an eagle hovers over it. It is here that the Valkyries, Odin's messengers and spirits of war, bring half of the heroes that died on the battle fields (the rest go to Freya's hall Folkvang). These heroes, the Einherjar, are prepared in Valhalla for the oncoming battle of Ragnarok. When the battle commences, eight hundred warriors will march shoulder to shoulder out of each door.
Old Norse: Valhöll

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/v/valhalla.html

I then noted that Tolkien sampled from Viking myth as well as others, to wit:

Midgard

In Norse myth, the defensive fortress which the gods build about the middle portion of the earth allotted to men in order to protect mankind from the giants. Midgard ("middle world") is on the same level as Nidavellir (land of the dwarfs), Svartalfheim (land of the dark elves/dwarfs) and Jotunheim (the land of the giants).

Old Norse: Midgardr

which sounds a lot like Middle Earth!!!!!!
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Just your regular Thurs. morning coffee break chat around here :laugh:

Thanks for the recap but I'm an Old Norse scholar!! :wavey::laugh::laugh: So anyway, I'm familiar....and yes, Tolkien totally stole from Norse Mythology which is why I love LOR. And that elvish language? Sounds like a mix of gaelic and old norse to me :thumbsup:.

With all the mythology embedded in that song, I should have known you'd be into it. Good choice for a quote.

[strandinthewind]

Thanks for the recap but I'm an Old Norse scholar!! :wavey::laugh::laugh: So anyway, I'm familiar....and yes, Tolkien totally stole from Norse Mythology which is why I love LOR. And that elvish language? Sounds like a mix of gaelic and old norse to me :thumbsup:.

With all the mythology embedded in that song, I should have known you'd be into it. Good choice for a quote.


Wow - I do not know many Old Norse scholars :laugh: Cool connection though!!!!!!!!!!!!!