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dudden22

06-06-2005, 02:13 PM

I love it when they throw tantrums! :laugh: I makes my day.

By Pat Milton
ASSOCIATED PRESS

11:07 a.m. June 6, 2005

NEW YORK – Russell Crowe was arrested and charged Monday for allegedly throwing a telephone at an employee of the Manhattan hotel where he was staying.
Crowe, 41, who plays a boxer in his latest film, "Cinderella Man," allegedly threw the phone at the concierge at the Mercer Hotel in SoHo, "hitting him in the face and causing a laceration and substantial pain," according to the complaint.

The Australian movie star was arraigned on charges of second-degree assault and fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon – the telephone – before Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Martin Murphy. The assault charge is punishable by four years in prison.

"This arose because he was trying to get his wife on the phone in Australia," his lawyer, Gerald Lefcourt, told reporters earlier outside the police precinct where Crowe was booked. "He was in his room. He couldn't get a line and there was a disagreement."

Police said Crowe left his room and went to the front desk where the alleged confrontation took place.

The prosecution told the judge that Crowe admitted to a police officer that he picked up the phone and threw it because he was angry.

Assistant District Attorney Chad Sjoquist asked the judge to set $5,000 bail, but Murphy released Crowe on his own recognizance and told him to return to court Sept. 14.

After Crowe was processed at the police precinct, he was led out in handcuffs to a police sport utility vehicle for the ride to criminal court. A horde of media, including a news helicopter hovering overhead, descended on him. Crowe, wearing dark shades, a blue bomber-style jacket and jeans, declined comment.

Crowe's publicist, Robin Baum, told syndicated TV show "Extra" that "after asking the front desk several times to replace a faulty phone in his room – and getting only attitude from the clerk on duty – Crowe brought the phone down to the front desk in an effort to address the situation in person.

"Words were exchanged and Crowe wound up throwing the phone against the wall. He regrets that he lost his temper, but at no time did he assault anyone or touch any hotel employee."

It wasn't the first instance of reported bad behavior by Crowe. The actor got into a brawl at a chic London restaurant in November 2002. Earlier that year, he reportedly was abusive toward a TV executive when the British Broadcasting Corp. edited his acceptance speech out of a broadcast of the British Academy Film Awards.

Crowe is married to actress Danielle Spencer and they have a 17-month-old son, Charles Spencer Crowe. He won an Oscar for his role in 2000's "Gladiator."

"Cinderella Man," Ron Howard's story of Depression-era boxer Jim Braddock, had a lackluster opening this weekend, debuting at No. 4 with an estimated $18.6 million at the box office.

amber

06-06-2005, 02:17 PM

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

skcin

06-06-2005, 02:27 PM

BBBBWWWWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I hope the guy's OK, but come on - hit in the head with a phone? THAT? Is hilarious! :laugh:

gldstwmn

06-06-2005, 02:39 PM

What a dick. :distress:

ontheEdgeof17

06-06-2005, 02:55 PM

BBBBWWWWWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I hope the guy's OK, but come on - hit in the head with a phone? THAT? Is hilarious! :laugh:

I'm guessing he's not over menopause. Huh Paula?

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:19 PM

skcin

06-06-2005, 03:25 PM

I'm guessing he's not over menopause. Huh Paula?

Yeah, that change of life sure is rough, I'm such an expert & all. :p

SuzeQuze

06-06-2005, 03:27 PM

I wonder if EC threw the phone actually at the emplyee or just threw the phone and it accidently hit the employee. RC is known, however, to have a temper and he often is drunk - at least that is what the stories say - so who knows. The press, however, is fresh out of courtroom drama once the MJ jury issues the verdict. So, I am seeing a long play out in the media.

Yeah cuz they need to continue to avoid actual news. This is so stupid, how can a grown man not control his temper? Although I do rage on occasion but I can safely say I have never thrown anything at anyone. Crazy bastard.

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:36 PM

Russell Crowe is a wet fart of a human turd. I loathe him. And I hear he's rank.

cliffdweller

06-06-2005, 03:36 PM

Russell Crowe is a pompous, overrated ass. I'm glad his new movie opened with a "lackluster" turnout. Speaks volumes to me.

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:38 PM

Russell Crowe is a pompous, overrated ass. I'm glad his movie opened with a "lackluster" turnout. Speaks volumes to me.

The only good movie I've ever seen him in was The Insider. Everything else sucked. Gladiator was one of the most overrated, bloated pieces of defecation to hit theaters in the last five years. And that says a lot. He seems like such a bastard that I just can't bear to look at him and his skank ass. Don't even get me started on his "music," and I use the term loosely.

amber

06-06-2005, 03:44 PM

Russell Crowe is a pompous, overrated ass. I'm glad his new movie opened with a "lackluster" turnout. Speaks volumes to me.
I saw some good reviews for the new movie, though. :shrug: I mean, I don't really like him, but...didn't Ron Howard direct it?

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:45 PM

Russell Crowe is a pompous, overrated ass. I'm glad his new movie opened with a "lackluster" turnout. Speaks volumes to me.

LOL -- you are so funny sometimes - do you like anything mainstream :laugh:

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:48 PM

I saw some good reviews for the new movie, though. :shrug: I mean, I don't really like him, but...didn't Ron Howard direct it?

I read that it was manipulative garbage. But I expect nothing less from Opie. It looks like one **** movie.

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:51 PM

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:52 PM

I saw Cinderella Man last weekend and thought it was fantastic as were the performaces of RZ, RC, and Paul Giamatti (esp.) were fab. and will most certainly be nominated for an Academy Award, as will the movie and Ron Howard. The story is sappy, but I loved it.

Of course it will be nominated, Hollywood loves to praise cinematic flagellation. Just look at The Aviator, Gladiator, etc.

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:53 PM

I read that it was manipulative garbage. But I expect nothing less from Opie. It looks like one **** movie.

Who knew you would have said that :laugh: :rolleyes: :laugh:

I mean every review I read has done nothing but praise it and the actors in it :shrug:

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:54 PM

Of course it will be nominated, Hollywood loves to praise cinematic flagellation. Just look at The Aviator, Gladiator, etc.

and I loved those :shrug: Mr. "I hate anything from the mainstream lest I be labeled as such" :p :p :p

amber

06-06-2005, 03:54 PM

Who knew you would have said that :laugh: :rolleyes: :laugh:

I mean every review I read has done nothing but praise it and the actors in it :shrug:
Took the words right outta my mouth. :laugh:

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:54 PM

Who knew you would have said that :laugh: :rolleyes: :laugh:

I mean every review I read has done nothing but praise it and the actors in it :shrug:

Read more of them.

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 03:58 PM

Read more of them.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Better yet, why don't you just post them :wavey:

dissention

06-06-2005, 03:58 PM

and I loved those :shrug: Mr. "I hate anything from the mainstream lest I be labeled as such" :p :p :p

I like plenty of mainstream stuff, I just don't particularly care for Oscar-bait or mainstream crap that masquerades as something fantastic when it isn't (i.e. every Spielberg movie).

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:00 PM

I like plenty of mainstream stuff, I just don't particularly care for Oscar-bait or mainstream crap that masquerades as something fantastic when it isn't (i.e. every Spielberg movie).

Blah Blah Blah - I love how you assert

I just don't particularly care for Oscar-bait or mainstream crap that masquerades as something fantastic when it isn't

as if that is a fact and all other lay statements to the contrary cannot overcome that :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17

06-06-2005, 04:04 PM

Yeah, that change of life sure is rough, I'm such an expert & all. :p

I'm sorry. You're not the expert in these parts. Good day. :lol:

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:06 PM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Better yet, why don't you just post them :wavey:

http://www.nypost.com/movies/44823.htm
http://www.boxoffice.com/scripts/fiw.dll?GetReview?&where=ID&terms=8292
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/c/cinderella_man.html
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/28/film-taylor2.php
http://www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/ddb5490109a79f598625623d0015f1e4/9a4f0a4186c4c31b8825700f000ac0f5?OpenDocument
http://www.killermoviereviews.com/main.php?nextlink=display&dId=582
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=1610
http://www.mrqe.com/rforward?url=http%3a//www.austinchronicle.com/gbase/Calendar/Film%3fFilm=oid%253a272909&author=Austin%20Chronicle%20(Marjorie%20Baumgarten)

Want more?

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:10 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/moviereviews/story/315598p-270017c.html
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2005/06/02/screen1.html
http://filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/cinderellaman.htm
http://www.windowtothemovies.com/LV-cinderellaman.html
http://popmatters.com/film/reviews/c/cinderella-man.shtml
http://www.tvguide.com/movies/database/ShowMovie.asp?MI=43821
http://www.filmstew.com/Content/Article.asp?Pg=1&ContentID=11631
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050603.wcinderella0603/BNStory/Entertainment/
http://alliance.zap2it.com/custom/metromix/main_template/0,1846,8-25903-1,00.html
http://www.montrealfilmjournal.com/review.asp?R=R0000940

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:13 PM

Wowy kazowie, I found more.

http://www.lawrence.com/blogs/scenestealers/2005/jun/05/cinderella/
http://www.filmblather.com/review.php?n=cinderellaman
http://www.themovieboy.com/directlinks/05cinderellaman.htm
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2005/06/03/cinderella_man/index_np.html
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=21602

SuzeQuze

06-06-2005, 04:14 PM

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:15 PM

Dissy, you are extra bratty and snarky, is everything okay with you?

I'm fine, dear. He's the one who asked. :laugh:

SuzeQuze

06-06-2005, 04:18 PM

I'm fine, dear. He's the one who asked. :laugh:

:laugh: Just checking. I would see this movie just to see Paul Giamatti because I think he's a frikkin riot. He was awesome as Pig Vomit in Howard Stern's movie.

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:23 PM

:laugh: Just checking. I would see this movie just to see Paul Giamatti because I think he's a frikkin riot. He was awesome as Pig Vomit in Howard Stern's movie.

I wouldn't see it if Nicole Kidman promised to hop into my bed if I did. :woohoo:

amber

06-06-2005, 04:25 PM

I wouldn't see it if Nicole Kidman promised to hop into my bed if I did. :woohoo:
Yeah you would. Please, btch.

SuzeQuze

06-06-2005, 04:26 PM

Yeah you would. Please, btch.

Yes of course. Please. :rolleyes:

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:27 PM

Yeah you would. Please, btch.

Pffffft. It's called exaggeration, silly. :p :laugh:

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:38 PM

I'm fine, dear. He's the one who asked. :laugh:

LMAO - some of those are just so scathing :rolleyes: And the others - boy - some of those are so well known, I should have just looked at the local checkout line for them instead of some well established internet site like from some of those highly professional opinions you cited to :laugh:

Now, here are the heavier hitters, if they don't offend your sense of mainstream :wavey:

Review: 'Cinderella Man' a triumph
Great performances elevate comeback story
By Paul Clinton
For CNN.com

(CNN) -- From "Apollo 13" to "A Beautiful Mind," Ron Howard has been drawn to stories exploring heroism, family fidelity and the strength of the human spirit.

He continues in that vein with "Cinderella Man," the Depression-era story of boxer James J. Braddock, called "The Cinderella Man." Braddock, fueled by love for his family, goes from abject poverty to achieving an impossible dream. Along the way, he becomes an unlikely folk hero.

The movie begins in 1928 when Braddock (Russell Crowe), a promising young New Jersey boxer, is making a name for himself with the help of his trusted friend and manager Joe Gould (Paul Giamatti). Life is good: Braddock brings in several hundred dollars with each win -- a fortune in those days -- and his family lives well.

Then Braddock suffers a badly broken right hand, and his world begins to fall apart. After a crushing defeat at the hands of light heavyweight champ Tommy Loughran, the local boxing commission revokes his license.

At the same time, America is sliding into the Great Depression. Braddock, his wife Mae (Renee Zellweger), and their three small children -- along with millions of other people -- suddenly found themselves barely able to survive.

Now "Cinderella Man" becomes a story less about boxing but about the strength of the bonds between Mae and James. Her emotional support was his anchor.

Comeback time
Braddock finds sporadic work in New York's shipyards, but is unable to provide even the bare necessities -- milk, gas or electricity -- for his family. Faced with the possibility that his children will be forced to live with relatives, he applies for relief. This delivers a greater blow to Braddock then any punch he ever received in the ring.

Then in 1934 Gould -- who's also stuck by Braddock -- begins to lay the groundwork for a great comeback. He arranges for Braddock to fight in a one-time-only match at Madison Square Garden. Old, out of shape and hungry, Braddock -- and the rest of the world -- thinks he's destined to go down. Instead, he wins, stunning everybody.

Despite Mae's pleas for him to stop, he continues to fight and continues to win. His amazing re-emergence from underdog to contender captures the hearts and minds of millions of Americans. Sportswriter Damon Runyon gives Braddock the moniker of Cinderella Man.

Finally, Braddock faces off with Max Baer (Craig Bierko) the flamboyant heavyweight champion of the world. Baer packs a literally lethal punch -- the force of his blows has killed two other boxers.

Heroic work
In many ways, you've seen "Cinderella Man" before. The boxing movie is a Hollywood mainstay; so is the comeback story. "Rocky" (1976) combined both to Oscar-winning glory, and just two years ago, "Seabiscuit" mined much of the same underdog territory on the horse tracks.

But Howard's keen eye for production design, his skill at exposing raw emotion and the terrific acting abilities of Crowe and Zellweger put this movie way above most films of the genre. The casting is perfect. Everyone in supporting roles gives outstanding performances, particulary Giamatti.

The boxing scenes are so realistic they're hard to watch. Using multiple cameras -- some hand-held -- Howard captures the sport in all its gory glory. Here again Crowe's dedication to his art is truly remarkable. You can almost feel his pain.

The script, by Academy Award winner Akiva Goldsman -- based on a story by newcomer Cliff Hollingsworth, who received a screenwriting credit -- is beautifully crafted. Hollingsworth had the cooperation of Braddock's two sons and the result is a glowing tribute to this forgotten hero.

Some critics may knock this film for being overly sentimental, and Howard's no novice at pulling heartstrings. But I felt the director stopped just short of falling over the edge. We needed heroes in the 1930s, and we need them today, and "Cinderella Man" is the unashamed story of a hero.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/03/review.cinderella/index.html

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NYTIMES (Comment - they hate EVERYTHING :laugh: )

June 3, 2005
MOVIE REVIEW | 'CINDERELLA MAN'

Roll the Fairy Tale, Fade to the Fists
By MANOHLA DARGIS

n June 13, 1935, the boxer James J. Braddock fought the fight of a lifetime. Born in Hell's Kitchen when that New York neighborhood still warranted that rough-and-tumble epithet, the 30-year-old heavyweight was the son of immigrants whose bloodlines and hardscrabble woes traced back to Ireland. Said to have weighed more than 17 pounds at birth, the adult Braddock tipped the scales around 190, stood nearly 6-foot-3 and was in the possession of a 75-inch reach. His most famous opponent, the Livermore Larruper, Max Baer, had an 81-inch reach, bringing him dauntingly close to Braddock's lopsided grin.

In "Cinderella Man," his movie about Braddock and the fight of his life, the director Ron Howard brings you viscerally close to understanding how that sideways smile was almost erased. Played by Russell Crowe with moist eyes and restless animal vigor, the pugilist known as the Cinderella Man entered the ring against Baer (an excellent Craig Bierko) with the odds 10-to-1 against him. The story of how this well-regarded boxer down on his luck faced those odds is one of the most celebrated in American sport, so it's a wonder it has never before been told on-screen. Filled with ups and heartbreaking downs, it is a story that can put a lump in your throat, though given Mr. Howard's inclination toward hokum, a lump on which you might easily gag.

Mr. Howard begins his film with a quote from Damon Runyon, who bequeathed Braddock his fairy-tale nickname. (According to Jeremy Schaap's fast-moving book, also titled "Cinderella Man," the fighter was more prosaically known as Irish Jim Braddock.) The Runyon quote constitutes the best writing in the film, which features a serviceable screenplay by Cliff Hollingsworth and the higher-profile Akiva Goldsman. Mr. Goldsman also wrote Mr. Howard's much-lauded, multiple Academy Award-winning film, "A Beautiful Mind," a work similarly steeped in nostalgia and hooey, the latter exemplified by the image of Mr. Crowe corrugating his meaty brow to play a tormented math genius. Mr. Crowe, a vibrantly physical screen presence, looks far more persuasive slicked with sweat and slugging other men.

In 1928, the year "Cinderella Man" opens, Braddock seemed to have all the right moves. Then a light heavyweight, the boxer was young, supremely healthy and both talented enough and dumb enough to earn a good living with his fists. The Crash changed his fortune as well as his optimistic outlook, and thereafter Braddock entered an agonizing downward spiral. Within a few years, he and his wife, Mae, played in the film by Renée Zellweger as a sniffling, squinting Kewpie doll, were living in a basement apartment with their young children and trying to keep the wolf from the door. In 1934, when his manager, Joe Gould (Paul Giamatti), asked Braddock if he wanted a fight, the boxer was wielding a baling hook on the Jersey docks. Almost a year had passed since his last bout.

Like Gary Ross's "Seabiscuit," the legend of the little Depression-era horse that could, "Cinderella Man" is a shamefully ingratiating old-fashioned weepie. To his credit, Mr. Howard does not wave the flag as vigorously as Mr. Ross, though the new film's tagline ("When America was on its knees, he brought us to our feet") prepares you for the worst. In any event, given that Mr. Howard and his writers would be hard-pressed to bend this underdog narrative to our current political nightmare, it's a good thing they don't venture down that path. And with this material, there really is no need. Lightly stained a nicotine brown and topped by two male actors who could steal a movie from a basket of mewling kittens and an army of rosy-cheeked orphans, the film is as calculating and glossy a hard-luck tale as any cooked up on the old M-G-M lot.

The Braddock and Baer match affords the film its climax, but it's the face-off between Mr. Crowe and Mr. Giamatti that gives it bite. Neither performer is at the top of his form here - Mr. Crowe's crowning achievement remains "The Insider," Mr. Giamatti's, unsurprisingly, is "Sideways" - but they duet nicely. Mr. Crowe, his face more sharply beveled than it has been in years, plays Braddock as a reluctant warrior, a good guy who seems almost abashed to lead with his fists. The actor doesn't pump up the heroics, which would have been a poor fit for the unassuming Braddock, but breathes life into the Everyman that both the country and its sportswriters needed. Out of the ring and opposite Mr. Giamatti, Mr. Crowe eases into the boxer's soft side, at times beautifully; in the ring, he's repulsively believable.

Mr. Giamatti does a lot of his acting with his eyebrows, which doesn't make the performance any less enjoyable. Gould was as much fixer as manager, and the actor makes you see the man's every angle as cleanly as if they were drawn with a ruler and compass. In his book, Mr. Schaap repeats one contemporary observer's theory that if Gould had been a better manager, Braddock would not have suffered so many career downturns. Mr. Howard and his collaborators don't test those particular murky waters, but they make sure we see boxing is an ugly game no matter how likable the players. In one of the most effective scenes, Gould frantically urges Braddock to break his opponent's nose and "fill his face with blood." This is a fight movie where the blood doesn't dribble.

With a killer of a sports story and two top-flight actors, Mr. Howard can't go terribly wrong. A fine craftsman, the director has in recent films been drawn to increasingly darker themes, perhaps because, in the age-old calculus of mainstream production, dark equals heft. In his last film, "The Missing," a taut western pegged to the hoariest frontier cliché (white women kidnapped by marauding Indians), Mr. Howard employed a somber palette and let (or just watched) his two leads, Cate Blanchett and Tommy Lee Jones, cut loose. The director pretty much repeats the same formula here, aided by the same talented cinematographer he used for "The Missing," Salvatore Totino, and his longtime editors Mike Hill and Dan Hanley, whose hard cutting intensifies the blunt force of every punch.

The fights are brutal, at times floridly so, and crucial to the film's own blunt force. Like some musical song-and-dance numbers, they break into the main storyline, providing much-needed relief from Braddock's gratingly soft-focus marriage. Taken together, the fights also create a leaner, meaner parallel narrative. One of the satisfactions of "Cinderella Man" is that, in the end, the story that unfolds inside the ring is not the same one that Mr. Howard, his screenwriters and the composer Thomas Newman seem keen to sell. Their Cinderella Man is the decent little guy who affirms what movie people call the triumph of the human spirit. The story Mr. Crowe tells, with Mr. Giamatti riding shotgun as a gleeful Mephistopheles, is that of a man who, having sampled the blood of others, clearly enjoyed the taste.

"Cinderella Man" is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). The fight scenes are intensely violent and, at times, protracted.

Cinderella Man

Opens today nationwide.

Directed by Ron Howard; written by Cliff Hollingsworth and Akiva Goldsman, based on a story by Mr. Hollingsworth; director of photography, Salvatore Totino; edited by Mike Hill and Dan Hanley; music by Thomas Newman; production designer, Wynn Thomas; produced by Brian Grazer, Mr. Howard and Penny Marshall; released by Universal Pictures, Miramax Films and Imagine Entertainment. Running time: 144 minutes. This film is rated PG-13.

WITH: Russell Crowe (Jim Braddock), Renée Zellweger (Mae Braddock), Paul Giamatti (Joe Gould), Craig Bierko (Max Baer), Paddy Considine (Mike Wilson), Bruce McGill (Jimmy Johnston) and Ron Canada (Joe Jeanette).
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cinderella_man/?beg=0&int=110&creamcrop_limit=36&page=all

"Mature and unsentimental. Crowe’s commitment to truthful acting triumphs along with Bierko’s breakout role as his tormenter. "
-- Victoria Alexander, FILMSINREVIEW.COM

"At the center of all this richness is another irresistible star turn by Crowe. As his Oscar-winning performance in Gladiator proved, no contemporary actor is better at conveying an uncluttered personal integrity and nobility of spirit."
-- William Arnold, SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER

" Crowe delivers powerful punch. "Cinderella Man" first Oscar-contender of the year. "
-- Angela Baldassarre, SYMPATICO.CA

"Its charms are skin-deep and rote, technically proficient and signifying very little."
-- Josh Bell, LAS VEGAS WEEKLY

"A tad bipolar, Cinderella Man's still remarkable film making...Russell Crowe is again, master and commander of what it is he does so well."
-- Emily Blunt, BLUNT REVIEW

"A powerful combo of history, sentiment and knowing how to ring an audience's bell. The choice of this man to portray, and the man who portrays him are the knockout punches."
-- Jules Brenner (FC), VARIAGATE.COM

" One of the best films of the year, it speaks to the heart and models a working-class hero whose riches have nothing to do with money."
-- Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat, SPIRITUALITY AND HEALTH

"Cinderella Man may not be subtle, but it’s reminiscent of the well-crafted popular entertainments of Hollywood’s Golden Age, blarney and all."
-- Peter Canavese, GROUCHO REVIEWS

"When was the last time you saw a truly feel-good movie about men beating the crap out of each other?"
-- Sarah Chauncey, REEL.COM

"The rhythms are so familiar it threatens to numb the mind. One at once admires the skill behind it while feeling guilty about falling for it yet again."
-- Jeffrey Chen, WINDOW TO THE MOVIES

"Actor Russell Crowe, who looks like he stepped right out of the 1930's, can apparently do anything and costar Zellweger has never been more appealing..."
-- Laura Clifford, REELING REVIEWS

"... isn't quite the dream come true it might have been. It lands more than a few punches. But none of them's a knockout -- and neither is the movie. "
-- Carol Cling, LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

"It's a contender movie that you don't have to wait until Christmas to see."
-- Cherryl Dawson and Leigh Ann Palone, THEMOVIECHICKS.COM

"It's schmaltzy -- but it's schmaltz veined with foie gras."
-- David Edelstein, SLATE

"As good as Crowe is as Braddock the fighter, he really delivers the goods as Braddock the man."
-- Michael Elliott, MOVIE PARABLES

"Howard has tapped into a glorious true-life story and wisely chosen Crowe, an unparalleled actor, to embody the hero."
-- Phoebe Flowers, SOUTH FLORIDA SUN-SENTINEL

"Caught up as the film's righteous center, Jim is sustained by his concern for his bland and underwritten family."
-- Cynthia Fuchs, POPMATTERS

"Scorsese’s Raging Bull initiated the stylistic flourish of flashbulb punctuation for a flying punch, but Howard turns it into virtually his entire mise-en-scene."
-- Todd Gilchrist, FILMSTEW.COM

"A rousing picture and a genuinely inspiring one… one Cinderella story that goes the distance without turning into a pumpkin, and fully earns its happily ever after."
-- Steven D. Greydanus, DECENT FILMS GUIDE

"If it all feels just a little bit like a movie set in the Depression that's cobbled together from Depression-era movies, that's not necessarily a bad thing."
-- Ken Hanke, MOUNTAIN XPRESS (ASHEVILLE, NC)

"Having Russell Crowe in a movie makes a huge difference."
-- Chris Hewitt (St. Paul), ST. PAUL PIONEER PRESS

"Opie makes a statement about the grand divide between the rich and the rest of us. "
-- Beth Jones, ROANOKE TIMES (VIRGINIA)

"If you can imagine Frank Capra doing his version of Raging Bull, you’ve got a good idea of what Cinderella Man is like."
-- Daniel M. Kimmel, WORCESTER TELEGRAM & GAZETTE

"Only our predisposed investment in the lead players manages to make the proceedings not too painfully bland."
-- Kevin N. Laforest, MONTREAL FILM JOURNAL

"Cinderella Man bids for audience approval at every turn."
-- Sheri Linden, BOXOFFICE MAGAZINE

"Moves with footwork that would make the real James J. Braddock proud."
-- Dan Lybarger, EFILMCRITIC.COM

"Crowe adds another masterful performance to his incredibly diverse portfolio."
-- Greg Maki, STAR-DEMOCRAT (EASTON, MD)

"An exquisitely crafted, stately drama ... that never surprises, never takes risks, never delivers beyond expectations."
-- Sean Means, SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

"Oscar host Chris Rock was on to something when he suggested that only Russell Crowe should be allowed to star in Hollywood period films."
-- Carla Meyer, SACRAMENTO BEE

"With Russell Crowe in literal fighting trim and a splendid supporting cast, this is a boxing pic built on classic lines, and one of the best movies of the summer."
-- Roger Moore, ORLANDO SENTINEL

"Apes the Rocky series, lifting bits and pieces from all five installments...I begged for Baer to shout in his best Mr. T voice, 'I pity the fool'"
-- Sean O'Connell, FILMCRITIC.COM

"Scene by scene, [Mae] reminds us that Jim is handsome, strong, ... and always right. The film celebrates masculine resolve that blocks out feminine counsel and concern."
-- Jeffrey Overstreet, LOOKING CLOSER

"'The film is ... as rich in Depression-era authenticity as such a picture gets, complete with a palpable air of social decay and personalized despondency.'"
-- Michael H. Price, FORT WORTH BUSINESS PRESS

"To say that this is the finest effort ever for the director of Apollo 13 and A Beautiful Mind is to praise an orchestration of true magnificence."
-- Larry Ratliff, SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS

"While some of its boxing scenes are brutal, 'Cinderella Man' is more about hope and the positive values of life."
-- Diana Saenger, REELTALK MOVIE REVIEWS

"Glorious hokum."
-- Dennis Schwartz, OZUS' WORLD MOVIE REVIEWS

"Ron Howard and his splendid cast have made a spellbinding movie that joins Million Dollar Baby, as well as Raging Bull, the first two Rocky pictures, and Fat City as one of boxing cinema's all-time heavyweight champs."
-- David Sterritt, CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR

"No opportunity for sentimental editorializing goes unseized."
-- Ella Taylor, L.A. WEEKLY

"The beautiful truth of this story is smeared over with cornball sentiment."
-- Lawrence Toppman, CHARLOTTE OBSERVER

"Russell Crowe is the new Meryl Streep...all he has to do is be in a movie in any given year and he's a lock for an Oscar nod."
-- John Venable, SUPERCALA.COM

"the first Oscar contender of 2005, and one of the few movies where it's OK for a man to cry (it's about sports, so whip out that hanky, big guy)."
-- Willie Waffle, WAFFLEMOVIES.COM

"So far, this great drama directed by Ron Howard and starring Russell Crowe is the summer movie season's real champ. "
-- John Wirt, ADVOCATE (BATON ROUGE, LA)

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-- Marjorie Baumgarten, AUSTIN CHRONICLE

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-- Steven Snyder, ZERTINET MOVIES

"An endearing story that will keep you at the edge of your seat, the edge of a cheer, the edge of a tear."
-- Ross Anthony, HOLLYWOOD REPORT CARD

"Rings of formula but has moxie to spare."
-- Jeanne Aufmuth, PALO ALTO WEEKLY

"The specifics of past-due notices and hunger pains are as important to Howard's story as the prizefights and the period detail."
-- John Beifuss, COMMERCIAL APPEAL (MEMPHIS, TN)

"...won't ever be considered among the great boxing movies. But it does captivatingly encapsulate the guts and gumption that made Braddock such an inspiration..."
-- Rob Blackwelder, SPLICEDWIRE

"Honestly, how can you not root for a movie about a Depression-era underdog prizefighter who beats the odds and wins it big? It seems anti-American or something."
-- Kit Bowen, HOLLYWOOD.COM

"Crowe's touching portrayal is instrumental in recruiting the audience's sympathies from the get-go."
-- Matt Brunson, CREATIVE LOAFING

"If there were ever any doubt that Russell Crowe is the greatest screen actor of his generation, Cinderella Man should put matters to rest."
-- Robert W. Butler, KANSAS CITY STAR

"It will give you hope."
-- Kevin Carr, 7M PICTURES

"Crowe deserves better than this--so do you."
-- Walter Chaw, FILM FREAK CENTRAL

"Tears are likely to be shed at the end of Cinderella Man, but thanks to Crowe and Howard you won’t know how or where the sucker punch will be coming from."
-- Erik Childress, EFILMCRITIC.COM

"...for the more mature audience that would rather a good story than copious F/X, “Cinderella Man” will fill that particular bill."
-- Robin Clifford, REELING REVIEWS

"A solidly entertaining movie - but Russell Crowe is basically playing Seabiscuit."
-- Jackie K. Cooper, JACKIEKCOOPER.COM

"Crowe has grit and gravitas to spare, and trims his Gladiator and Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World caricatures down to pug-nosed, cauliflower-ear size."
-- Duane Dudek, MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL

"Cinderella Man is the most heartfelt boxing drama because it is more than a boxing story."
-- David Elliott, SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE

"Cinderella Man wants to be a rousing crowd-pleaser and it probably is, even if Howard has to keeping shouting at the audience to know when to be pleased and aroused."
-- Dan Fienberg, ZAP2IT.COM

"Howard sees Braddock's story in simple, black-and-white terms; Howard loves Braddock because there's nothing not to like. Viewers who remember Max Baer may, however, take issue with the way the film treats this charismatic fighter."
-- Ken Fox, TV GUIDE'S MOVIE GUIDE

"In lesser hands, Braddock could seem a bit dull or unimaginative. But Crowe revels in subtle character detail, making Braddock real. Crowe projects the complex gravitas of a person of depth as well as decency."
-- Jack Garner, ROCHESTER DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE

"As of May, 2005, this Depression-era drama is the Best Picture of the year - with flawless acting and production values. It's a must-see!"
-- Susan Granger, MODAMAG.COM

"a wonderful film"
-- Stefan Halley, HERO REALM

"The film by which [director Ron Howard] should henceforth be measured."
-- Forrest Hartman, RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL

"[T]here’s an undeniable power to Cinderella Man, and it’s down to the intense and gripping performances of Russell Crowe... and Paul Giamatti..."
-- MaryAnn Johanson, FLICK FILOSOPHER

"As touching, thrilling, and inspiring as they come – and a welcome return to the kinds of films that make you leave the theatre feeling better than when you entered. "
-- Brian Juergens, FREEZE DRIED MOVIES

"Kudos to the excellent Paul Giamatti as well as Craig Bierko, Paddy Considine, Bruce McGill and Canadian veterans Chuck Shamata (the priest) and Nicholas Campbell (the sports columnist)."
-- Bruce Kirkland, JAM! MOVIES

"What a relief when an inspirational movie actually works."
-- Josh Larsen, SUN PUBLICATIONS (CHICAGO, IL)

"A movie of great delicacy of feeling... [T]he truth of the story tugs irresistibly at your heart. "
-- Kurt Loder, MTV

"Crowe delivers an Oscar-caliber performance in an emotionally powerful film."
-- Jeffrey Lyles, GAZETTE (MD)

"...Seabiscuit crossed with Million Dollar Baby without the messy moral questions."
-- Philip Martin, ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

"Forget boxing, this has good moral values, applauding marriage and commitment and personal responsibility with the best representation of the Great Depression ever filmed."
-- Tony Medley, TONYMEDLEY.COM

"with the narrative focus dissipated by trying to show us how much it all mattered back then, it makes it impossible to show us how much it matters now. "
-- Nell Minow, MOVIE MOM AT YAHOO! MOVIES

"There is nothing to discover and nothing to feel."
-- Eugene Novikov, FILM BLATHER

"Ron Howard's Cinderella Man is the best American film since another movie that revolved around a boxer, Clint Eastwood's Oscar-winning Million Dollar Baby."
-- Chuck O'Leary, FANTASTICA DAILY

"Most directors shy away from the Time That Oscar Voters Forget. Ron Howard must be getting bolder."
-- Mary F. Pols, CONTRA COSTA TIMES

"'The film is ... as rich in Depression-era authenticity as such a picture gets, complete with a palpable air of social decay and personalized despondency.'"
-- Michael H. Price, FORT WORTH BUSINESS PRESS

"Bierko has to be an instant front-runner for the best supporting actor Oscar."
-- Steve Rhodes, STEVE RHODES' INTERNET REVIEWS

"The story follows an arc similar to another Depression-era tale, 'Seabiscuit,' but 'Cinderella Man' is markedly better and less sentimental."
-- James Sanford, KALAMAZOO GAZETTE

"Oh sure, it's a good movie, but only by process of elimination: You like it because there's no reason NOT to like it."
-- Eric D. Snider, ERICDSNIDER.COM

"Beautifully portrayed by Russell Crowe and Renee Zellweger in the kinds of well-judged performances that presume goodness without straining to convince us of it, they're a couple whose shared moral compass guides them unerringly."
-- Bob Strauss, LOS ANGELES DAILY NEWS

"The film just delivers on every level, not only as one of the great sports movies in recent memory but as a truly inspiring and thrilling comeback story."
-- Rob Thomas, CAPITAL TIMES (MADISON, WI)

"'Cinderella Man' wrings every bit of emotion out of a tried-and-true underdog storyline. Fortunately, it does so with considerable style and heart."
-- Betty Jo Tucker, REELTALK MOVIE REVIEWS

"In many ways this unambitious but heartfelt drama comes as a welcome breath of fresh air, especially now, when theaters are filled with dark and dreary features, the kind of heartless, soulless Hollywood constructs that glut the summer each year."
-- Jeff Vice, DESERET NEWS, SALT LAKE CITY

"Paul Giamatti steals the show as Braddock's smart-*** trainer and manager, Joe Gould. Maybe it's his Oscar comeuppance."
-- Mike Ward, RICHMOND.COM

"So determined to make the audience stand up and cheer that it forgets how to generate anything lasting, other than sheer old-timey nostalgia."
-- Andrew Wright, THE STRANGER (SEATTLE, WA)

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-- Jeff Farance, DAYTONA BEACH NEWS-JOURNAL (FL.)

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-- Bob Grimm, SACRAMENTO NEWS & REVIEW

Hot Pick
"This is an utterly predictable, thoroughly manipulative and thunderously obvious movie. I wouldn't change a frame of it."
-- Rene Rodriguez, MIAMI HERALD

Cream of the Crop
FRESH 78%

Avg. Rating: 7.6/10
"It lands a few solid punches, but never achieves anything close to a knock-out."
-- James Berardinelli, REELVIEWS

"Braddock only wants another shot at boxing to buy milk for the kids. Cue the heavenly choir."
-- Jami Bernard, NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

"The fight scenes hurt, not because they're edited like quicksilver or nimbly staged -- they are -- but because we are made to care so deeply for the title character."
-- Amy Biancolli, HOUSTON CHRONICLE

"If you're the sort of occasional moviegoer who feels they don't make 'em like they used to -- well, you're right. Except that Howard and Russell Crowe have just proved you wrong."
-- Ty Burr, BOSTON GLOBE

"I've never seen a boxing movie that has so convinced me I was seeing a pro bout both real and sustained."
-- Mike Clark, USA TODAY

"We needed heroes in the 1930s, and we need them today, and Cinderella Man is the unashamed story of a hero."
-- Paul Clinton (CNN), CNN

"It's a thrilling story, all the more amazing for being true."
-- Colin Covert, MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE

"Ron Howard's film about the heavyweight boxer James J. Braddock is a shamefully ingratiating old-fashioned weepie."
-- Manohla Dargis, NEW YORK TIMES

"In telling the story of heavyweight champion Jimmy Braddock, Howard creates a hero who's not operating out of a pumped-up sense of himself."
-- Robert Denerstein, DENVER ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS

"Most serious movies live in a world of cynicism and irony, and most good-hearted movie characters live in bad movies. Here is a movie where a good man prevails in a world where every day is an invitation to despair."
-- Roger Ebert, CHICAGO SUN-TIMES

"Howard's relentless and flat-footed attack on our sympathies slips into monotony. The first half drags on for longer than it should, as we're told over and over that people were poor, very poor. Depressed even. Because it was the Depression."
-- Robert K. Elder, CHICAGO TRIBUNE

"It's hard to guess how much of the beautiful science Academy members can take, but let's worry about that next February."
-- Eleanor Ringel Gillespie, ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION

"Howard has got but a single message to deliver here -- boxer Braddock as the populist American hero of the Depression era — and he beats us over the head with his uplifting haymaker until we're crumbled on the canvas and crying for mercy."
-- Rick Groen, GLOBE AND MAIL

"Despite the tale's dusty pedigree, Ron Howard spins a ticket-worthy two-plus hours of movie-movie entertainment."
-- Ed Halter, VILLAGE VOICE

"Ron Howard's Depression-era ode to second chances and noble contests, filmed here last summer, is not just another boxing movie or just another picture. It's a completely absorbing and artfully made fairy tale that just so happens to be true."
-- Peter Howell, TORONTO STAR

"We're in an almost irony-free zone, where everything is exactly as it seems, and no subtexts are available for subtext-fanatics."
-- Stephen Hunter, WASHINGTON POST

"Crowe's performance as this Seabiscuit of the sweet science will no doubt make the middleweight Cinderella Man a contender -- an Oscar contender."
-- Lisa Kennedy, DENVER POST

"Cinderella Man takes the almost impossibly perfect elements of the saga of underdog boxer James J. Braddock and fills it with emotional gravitas, wrenching danger and a panoramic sense of American life during the Great Depression."
-- Robert Koehler, VARIETY

"A godsend to anybody who yearns for cinema to be a bringer of good tidings."
-- Anthony Lane, NEW YORKER

"Easily the best American film so far this year."
-- Mick LaSalle, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE

"A grand piece of old-fashioned Hollywood filmmaking that is easily the best movie of the year so far."
-- Tom Long, DETROIT NEWS

"So square it makes the original Rocky look cutting edge and Million Dollar Baby positively avant-garde by comparison."
-- Lou Lumenick, NEW YORK POST

"The first film in terms of Oscar hopefuls this year that can truly be considered a contender."
-- John Monaghan, DETROIT FREE PRESS

"Crowe gives another solid performance, and Paul Giamatti (Sideways, American Splendor) adds to his shining reputation as a top character actor by playing Braddock's lippy manager, Joe Gould."
-- Bill Muller, ARIZONA REPUBLIC

"Cinderella Man consistently delivers less than it wants to by trying for more than it should. The movie tells the story of Braddock's life as redemptive fairy tale, fitting the fighter for a glass slipper that ends up being the movie's glass jaw."
-- Bruce Newman, SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS

"A superbly acted, beautifully shot, highly engaging drama that ranks as one of Howard's best efforts."
-- Michael Rechtshaffen, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

"The conventional wisdom is that Howard is a sentimentalist who needs Crowe to give his films edge. I prefer to think of the director as one in the handful of Hollywood filmmakers who still know how to make mass entertainment not based on a comic book."
-- Carrie Rickey, PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER

"This is a rousing, thrilling and inspirational biopic from a director and a star who have now collaborated on two Academy Award level films."
-- Richard Roeper, EBERT & ROEPER

"How exceptional a film actor is Russell Crowe? So exceptional that in Cinderella Man, he makes a good boxing movie feel at times like a great, big picture."
-- Lisa Schwarzbaum, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY

"There probably isn't a filmmaker anywhere, other than the redoubtable Steven Spielberg himself, who's as adroit as Howard at grabbing the mass viscera and squeezing it at just the right intervals."
-- Gene Seymour, NEWSDAY

"Crowe's burly poignancy hits you foursquare in the ribs -- right above the ticker. This feels old-fashioned, pure and meat-and-potatoes simple. It's an Irish stew movie."
-- Desson Thomson, WASHINGTON POST

"Not only is Cinderella Man Howard's best movie, it is also his most personal and deeply felt."
-- Peter Travers, ROLLING STONE

"Howard hurts our ability to enjoy this good story by pushing its plot points too insistently."
-- Kenneth Turan, LOS ANGELES TIMES

"Like its hero, it stubbornly gets the job done."
-- Stephen Whitty, NEWARK STAR-LEDGER

"If you used to love the movies, Cinderella Man will remind you of the movies you loved."
-- Philip Wuntch, DALLAS MORNING NEWS

"Cinderella Man is a movie about the indomitability of the American spirit, and those are always far less interesting than movies about actual people."
-- Stephanie Zacharek, SALON.COM

"Sharp acting within a sepia-toned technical knockout."
-- Harvey S. Karten, COMPUSERVE

"... a by-the-book, retro Hollywood production – which brings with it both virtues and problems."
-- Andy Klein, LOS ANGELES CITYBEAT

"Easily the best mainstream Hollywood drama so far this year."
-- Shawn Levy, OREGONIAN

"It seems that Ron Howard has done it again. He keeps on getting better and better..."
-- Eric Lurio, GREENWICH VILLAGE GAZETTE

"Pardon its dust, and you'll be rewarded with a moving story of a time gone by, and of an unexpected hero."
-- Moira MacDonald, SEATTLE TIMES

"audiences looking for uplifting, quality entertainment should love “Cinderella Man.”"
-- Sean McBride, SEAN THE MOVIE GUY

"...pre-digested, pre-approved...has the bullying 'stamp of quality.'"
-- Eric Melin, LAWRENCE.COM

"An exciting film that is rarely seen outside of December."
-- Danny Minton, BEAUMONT JOURNAL

"Cinderella Man captures the essence of the Braddock experience. Crowe confirms himself as the new Brando. Ready to respect Opie yet?"
-- Jimmy O, FILM SNOBS

"Cinderella Man is a fine production, but the film lacks spark where it needs it most: the boxing ring."
-- Brian Orndorf, FILMJERK.COM

"Entertaining and affecting, but an Oscar movie this is not."
-- Jon Popick, PLANET SICK-BOY

"A worn-out Goodwill version of Rocky that either deserved a less-banal filmmaking approach or didn't need to be made at all."
-- Dustin Putman, THEMOVIEBOY.COM

"Depression-era boxing story gets a good -- not great -- envisioning from Ron Howard and features good lead work from Russell Crowe."
-- James Rocchi, NETFLIX

"65 years after John Ford's wrenching The Grapes of Wrath, Hollywood seems to have concluded that the Great Depression was, in fact, a pretty great time to be alive."
-- Nicholas Schager, SLANT MAGAZINE

"At this point in 2005, are you really going to complain about a well-made, well-acted, formulaic sports movie? Me neither."
-- Collin Souter, EFILMCRITIC.COM

"A grossly manipulative tale of an underdog who comes out on top, but one so skillfully manufactured that it effortlessly--and pleasurably--carries you along."
-- Frank Swietek, ONE GUY'S OPINION

"For Crowe, it adds to the winning streak that started with L.A. Confidential and has continued virtually unabated since, and is marked by smart choices and solid performances."
-- Gary Thompson, PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS

"Comforting and familiar -- and certainly, 2005 has been weak enough to welcome such qualities -- but the best picture of the year? Come on, folks, get a grip."
-- Rob Vaux, FLIPSIDE MOVIE EMPORIUM

"Proves that there's always room on the shelf for another riveting, elegant boxing film."
-- Phil Villarreal, ARIZONA DAILY STAR

"Not matter how hard the script tries to turn Braddock into a symbol of American perseverance, Crowe never portrays him as anything more than a human being."
-- Jeffrey Westhoff, NORTHWEST HERALD (CRYSTAL LAKE, IL)

"Director Ron Howard doesn't pull any surprise moves here, yet the movie gets more and more gripping with each punch."
-- E! ONLINE
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any questions dear :wavey: :xoxo:

amber

06-06-2005, 04:39 PM

Pffffft. It's called exaggeration, silly. :p :laugh:
:D You just went to far on that one, I guess, even for me. :laugh:

Edit - Christ, STrand, that's long even for you! Sheeb. :xoxo:

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:42 PM

:D You just went to far on that one, I guess, even for me. :laugh:

Edit - Christ, STrand, that's long even for you! Sheeb. :xoxo:

Well, Diss opened the door darlin' - - I just walked through it to hand his hat back to him, full of Crowe to eat.

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:43 PM

LMAO - some of those are just so scathing :rolleyes: And the others - boy - some of those are so well known, I should have just looked at the local checkout line for them instead of some well established internet site like from some of those highly professional opinions you cited to :laugh:

any questions dear :wavey: :xoxo:

None. You asked for some bad reviews, I gave you some. I love how you copied and pasted from rottentomatoes.com, the exact same place that lists the reviews I gave and are duplicated in your post. Seems as if you DID look in the checkout line, after all.

Again, you said all the reviews were great. I submit they were not. Any questions?

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:45 PM

None. You asked for some bad reviews, I gave you some. I love how you copied and pasted from rottentomatoes.com, the exact same place that lists the reviews I gave and are duplicated in your post. Seems as if you DID look in the checkout line, after all.

Again, you said all the reviews were great. I submit they were not. Any questions?

Blah Blah Blah - we were talking about how the film has been well received, which it has. I, unlike you, post the good with the bad. How is it eating Crowe?

cliffdweller

06-06-2005, 04:46 PM

LOL -- you are so funny sometimes - do you like anything mainstream :laugh:

I like Fleetwood Mac don't I? :laugh: Talk about your mainstream...

I just hate Russell Crowe with the white hot intensity of 1,000 suns. And cracking a smile once in a while wouldn't hurt him either. Rude jackass!! [R.C. not you! :laugh:]

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:47 PM

I like Fleetwood Mac don't I? :laugh: Talk about your mainstream...

I just hate Russell Crowe with the white hot intensity of 1,000 suns. And cracking a smile once in a while wouldn't hurt him either. Rude jackass!! [R.C. not you! :laugh:]

I agree - in fact friends of mine have waited on him and do not really have too many nice things to say.

Also,

:laugh: I might be a jackass but I am NOT a rude one :laugh:

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:48 PM

Blah Blah Blah - we were talking about how the film has been well received, which it has. I, unlike you, post the good with the bad. How is it eating Crowe?

You ****ing asked for the bad reviews, wiseass. We were talking about the reviews and you proclaimed that all the reviews you read were glowing. I said to read more, to which you retorted that I should post them. Which I did. End of story.

Serrart

06-06-2005, 04:48 PM

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:49 PM

You ****ing asked for the bad reviews, wiseass. We were talking about the reviews and you proclaimed that all the reviews you read were glowing. I said to read more, to which you retorted that I should post them. Which I did.

and thank you for that. Now, to the larger point, the movie has been well recieved by a clear majority :shrug:

cliffdweller

06-06-2005, 04:49 PM

I mean every review I read has done nothing but praise it and the actors in it :shrug:

Yeah, and they do nothing for me. I think that's what turns me off most about the movie. I really like Giamatti, but his character looks kind of like a characature from the previews I've seen.

And how many more feel good boxing movies do we really need?

dissention

06-06-2005, 04:51 PM

and thank you for that.

How wonderful it is to be thanked.

Now, to the larger point, the movie has been well recieved by a clear majority :shrug:

That wasn't what we were discussing, but nice job trying to spin. I think I conceded as much when I said Hollywood and critics loves to heap lavish praise on such mainstream garbage. The tagline alone for that film makes me retch.

strandinthewind

06-06-2005, 04:51 PM

Yeah, and they do nothing for me. I think that's what turns me off most about the movie. I really like Giamatti, but his character looks kind of like a characature from the previews I've seen.

And how many more feel good boxing movies do we really need?

I know - it seems like all one needs to do is direct a boxing movie where the lead character/boxer is the come back kid who gets all dirty and there is your nomination :laugh:

A good friend always says "play an idiot or get dirty and there's your Oscar winner" :laugh:

cliffdweller

06-06-2005, 04:52 PM

:laugh: Just checking. I would see this movie just to see Paul Giamatti because I think he's a frikkin riot. He was awesome as Pig Vomit in Howard Stern's movie.

...and I will always and forever love his portrayal of Harvey Pekar in American Splendour. It's one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time and his performance was stellar.

SuzeQuze

06-06-2005, 05:02 PM

...and I will always and forever love his portrayal of Harvey Pekar in American Splenour. It's one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time and his performance was stellar.

Sounds like I'm missing out, I'll have to see that one!

David

06-06-2005, 05:20 PM

NEW YORK – Russell Crowe was arrested and charged Monday for allegedly throwing a telephone at an employee of the Manhattan hotel where he was staying.
Crowe, 41, who plays a boxer in his latest film, "Cinderella Man," allegedly threw the phone at the concierge at the Mercer Hotel in SoHo, "hitting him in the face and causing a laceration and substantial pain," according to the complaint.That guy really thinks he's hot ****.

Hotels should ban him worldwide.

Miss Vicky

06-09-2005, 01:01 PM

I? Am a Russell Crowe fan. And I'm not ashamed to admit it.

I own nearly every movie he's made, as well as all three of Thirty Odd Foot of Grunts' albums and have seen them in concert (And, btw, I really do like his music) I have yet to see Cinderella Man, but I have every intention of seeing it.

I think he's one of the most talented actors in Hollywood today. I also think he's incredibly sexy. He has been in some incredibly horrible movies (see Hammers Over the Anvil and Breaking Up) but, IMO, did the best that could be done with those roles. Gladiator is one of my favorite movies. I saw it five times in the theaters and own the dvd, vhs and book. There is a large poster for the movie hanging over my bed and two framed 8x10s of him on my wall.

Is he my favorite actor? No. I think he's a hot-headed asshole who deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law (Not to mention be forced to take anger management classes). On the other hand, the full extent of the law could include the revokation of his visa, which would effectively end his Hollywood career since he would be unable to film in or even enter the United States and that would be a shame.

Livia

06-09-2005, 03:12 PM

He was on Letterman last night - first thing he said was something like, "You never call me anymore." Laughter from audience, and Dave goes, "Oh yeah, that reminds me...." and he unplugged the phone on his desk and hid it behind some scenery. :lol: Russell made a public apology, said it was stupid, and the guy he hurt won't talk to him yet, but he wants to apologize to him...he added that he's not used to being away from his wife and son...but by no means was he making excuses for his behavior. It was classy, imo....and then I started channel surfing during the commercials and missed Paul Anka, dammit!

Yeah, TOFG rocks! I saw them a couple years ago. Freaky fans dressed in gladiator outfits - good times!

seeker007nmss

06-09-2005, 03:14 PM

http://www.nypost.com/movies/44823.htm
Want more?

YES! 23 aren't near enough! :blob2: :blob1: (You get both blue AND purple jumpy blobs)

seeker007nmss

06-09-2005, 03:17 PM

Is he my favorite actor? No. I think he's a hot-headed asshole who deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law (Not to mention be forced to take anger management classes). On the other hand, the full extent of the law could include the revokation of his visa, which would effectively end his Hollywood career since he would be unable to film in or even enter the United States and that would be a shame.

They should give him what an average "Joe" would get in the same circumstances. If that means loosing his Visa....So be it. You act like an idiot, you pay the price.

cliffdweller

06-09-2005, 04:28 PM

They should give him what an average "Joe" would get in the same circumstances. If that means loosing his Visa....So be it. You act like an idiot, you pay the price.

:nod: I agree. But his visa won't get revoked. He won't get the harshest punishment; probably just a slap on the wrist.

Serrart

06-09-2005, 05:32 PM

sparky

06-09-2005, 06:21 PM

That was a heck of a pissing contest. Even for you two ! Excellent.

Russell Crowe is a drunk bitch with an anger management problem.

His acting - okay. His music - unintentionally funny.

BombaySapphire3

06-09-2005, 08:27 PM

I think Crowe is a gifted actor .I was hoping hitting 40 and having a kid would mellow him out and he'd stop behaving like a bore in an outback pub.After this latest incident I think psych meds should be a consideration.I love to watch Sean Penn in films too and I'm glad he's chilled out and his worst behavior seems to be long behind him.I don't think of him as a stupid person so it bewildered me why he got so upset when the paparazzi was hounding the most savy publicity generating and media manipulating woman of all time .

dissention

06-09-2005, 08:57 PM

That was a heck of a pissing contest. Even for you two ! Excellent.

What can I say? I do like to whip it out every once in awhile.

Russell Crowe is a drunk bitch with an anger management problem.

His acting - okay. His music - unintentionally funny.

He's skank bitch is what he is. Needs to bathe more frequently and buy himself a new personality with all that cash he rakes in by making all those **** movies. As an actor, he's too mannered and self-aware of what he's doing; I don't buy any of his performances. He tries painfully hard to act as if he's out of the Hollywood loop, yet he himself writes "OSCAR BAIT" across his forehead with a sharpie for everyone to see. Puhleeze.

I still haven't stopped getting terrors after seeing him and his **** band on Soundstage. Christ. And I thought Bruce Willis was horrid. Crowe makes him look like another Lindsey Buckingham.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:04 AM

That was a heck of a pissing contest. Even for you two ! Excellent . . . .

Wife Beater :xoxo: :p :p :p :xoxo:

wondergirl9847

06-10-2005, 12:23 AM

What can I say? I do like to whip it out every once in awhile.

Please warn us first, so we can cover our eyes...thanks.

sparky

06-10-2005, 12:24 AM

Wife Beater :xoxo: :p :p :p :xoxo:

This must be a reference to my AMber titled African American picture ? :wavey:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:25 AM

This must be a reference to my AMber titled African American picture ? :wavey:

I can't believe she thought you were black. :laugh:

amber

06-10-2005, 12:27 AM

I can't believe she thought you were black. :laugh:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
HE WAS VERY TAN!

sparky

06-10-2005, 12:41 AM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
HE WAS VERY TAN!

I am never letting you live that one down, Homegirl.

I am surprised you didn't compare me to George Washington Carver or
Sidney Poitier on that famous people thread. :lol:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:42 AM

I am never letting you live that one down, Homegirl.

I am surprised you didn't compare me to George Washington Carver or
Sidney Poitier on that famous people thread. :lol:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Nah, I see a bigger resemblance to Jacko during the seventies.

amber

06-10-2005, 12:43 AM

I am never letting you live that one down, Homegirl.

I am surprised you didn't compare me to George Washington Carver or
Sidney Poitier on that famous people thread. :lol:
....Denzel.

sparky

06-10-2005, 12:46 AM

....Denzel.

Denzel is hunky. A womanizer and a dirtbag, but hunky.

amber

06-10-2005, 12:49 AM

Denzel is hunky. A womanizer and a dirtbag, but hunky.
That's why I picked him.
Wait, he is? I didn't know that! I thought he was kind of gay. Which actually just means I wasn't attracted to him... :laugh:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:51 AM

Denzel is hunky. A womanizer and a dirtbag, but hunky.

I've heard he's more of a whore than Antonio Sabato Jr. :laugh:

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:53 AM

I've heard he's more of a whore than Antonio Sabato Jr. :laugh:

Well, now AJS, Jr. is a whole other story - why he does not win an emmy for every crappy made for t.v. movie he is in shirtless, I will never know :laugh:

sparky

06-10-2005, 12:53 AM

That's why I picked him.
Wait, he is? I didn't know that! I thought he was kind of gay. Which actually just means I wasn't attracted to him... :laugh:

Straight, married, and a notorious p*ssy hound.
But, nonetheless, I am flattered. :laugh:

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:55 AM

This must be a reference to my AMber titled African American picture ? :wavey:

Listen darling - all I know is I was in Vegas - you were in Vegas -- and no one got naked - well at least I did not :laugh: except for with Sharon (Sulamith) and that is because I was putting on my silk p.j.'s to go to bed :laugh:

amber

06-10-2005, 12:59 AM

Straight, married, and a notorious p*ssy hound.
But, nonetheless, I am flattered. :laugh:
It's so dumb when people pretend to be married....

dissention

06-10-2005, 01:01 AM

Well, now AJS, Jr. is a whole other story - why he does not win an emmy for every crappy made for t.v. movie he is in shirtless, I will never know :laugh:

Fech, because he's not attractive. He's nazzzzzzzzzzzty. :lol:

Miss Vicky

06-10-2005, 11:37 AM

Do you have Spotswood aka The Efficiency Expert too?

I think he's a very good actor but Hollywood is already eating him alive due to his awful attitude.

Romy

I think that's the only one that I don't have. From what I hear he has only a very small role in it so I haven't convinced myself to fork over the $$ to pick it up. Is it worth it?

Like I said, RC isn't my favorite actor (That place is reserved for his former costar Joaquin Phoenix). But I loved him in a lot of his movies - Gladiator (of course), The Quick and the Dead, Romper Stomper, L.A. Confidential, and The Sum of Us. Also liked him in Mystery, Alaska (the movie sucked but he looked great).

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 11:46 AM

And I thought Bruce Willis was horrid. Crowe makes him look like another Lindsey Buckingham.

:eek::shocked: That's a bold statement among Lindsey fans :laugh:

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 11:47 AM

Fech, because he's not attractive. He's nazzzzzzzzzzzty. :lol:

I'll let the pics speak for themselves :laugh: I mean if you are not into that Roman god type of beauty - I guess not :laugh:

http://images.google.com/images?q=antonio+sabato+jr.&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ii&oi=imagest

Here are a few of the hundreds from that site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/af07668bce.jpg

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 11:51 AM

I'll let the pics speak for themselves :laugh: I mean if you are not into that Roman god type of beauty - I guess not :laugh:

http://images.google.com/images?q=antonio+sabato+jr.&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ii&oi=imagest

Here are a few of the hundreds from that site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/af07668bce.jpg

Uh, could his shirt in that bottom pic be any louder? :laugh:

Also, is he gay? :laugh: 'cuz my gaydar is going off wildly.

dissention

06-10-2005, 11:58 AM

I'll let the pics speak for themselves :laugh: I mean if you are not into that Roman god type of beauty - I guess not :laugh:

http://images.google.com/images?q=antonio+sabato+jr.&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ii&oi=imagest

Here are a few of the hundreds from that site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/af07668bce.jpg

Sorry, I think he's ****ing gross. :laugh: Looks like a sock-stuffer, too.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 11:59 AM

LOL - I have that same red shirt - oh well - at least he and I have the same coloring - that, of course is where the similarities stop :laugh:

He was married and has a kid, and he is very close to his kid - at least that is what the press says. Then again, there is this pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/antonio.jpg

I also thought this candid one was fab.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/strandinthewind/images7.jpg

Here is an interview with him from The Advocate, with a cool Stevie ref.:

Hanging with Antonio: Antonio Sabato Jr. tells all about putting his underwear model body back on the line as a mysterious gay seducer in the upcoming film Testosterone

Advocate, The, August 17, 2004 by John Griffiths

He obsesses over Britney Spears, is "close pals" with "funny" Tori Spelling, loves Broadway musicals, likes to work out on the beach, and thinks Will & Grace's wild Jack is someone he could hang out with. Oh, and he's been known to wear nothing but underwear for a living. Alas, Antonio Sabato Jr. is not gay. But he does play gay in Testosterone, the he-done-him-wrong dark comedy helmed by out director David Moreton (Edge of Seventeen), heading to theaters in early September from Strand Releasing.

The fact that Sabato hasn't essayed a gay character until now may be kind of a surprise. (And how's this: The still Italian-accented guy tins never played a gigolo!) He has played some memorable hunks, however. The affable, pearly-whited, preternaturally glowing Sabato rose to fame in the mid '90s as Jagger Cates on General Hospital and hit prime time as one of Heather Locklear's thorns in Melrose Place in 1995. But his most pertinent claim to fame was, of course, his briefs stint as a model for Calvin Klein starting in the late 1990s.

Sabato himself admits that that campaign didn't parlay a slew of big-league offers; his post-soap career has mainly consisted of playing tough guys in straight-to-video action flicks such as 2000's Longshot. Sabato, 32, was last seen spoofing his gorgeous-guy image as a dim-witted personal trainer in this year's short-lived sitcom The Help.

He's hoping to make a bigger impression with Testosterone, which Moreton and cowriter (and frequent Advocate contributor) Dennis Hensley based on James Robert Baker's novel about a slumping graphic novelist named Dean whose Argentine lover of a year vanishes. Bloodlusting for an explanation, Mr. Jilted (David Sutcliffe, of the recently axed cute-com I'm With Her) heads to Buenos Aires to find file mysterious, cocky Pablo (Sabato). Not only does Sabato flirt with men in the flick, he goes (for a split second) full-frontal with 'em. "He was interested in pushing the limits," says Moreton. "And he really nailed it."

While Sabato hasn't dallied with the same sex, he has posed naked or near so for out photographers such as Greg Gorman and the late Herb Ritts, whom he counts as "good" friends. Earlier this year he participated in an 80-mile portion of the California AIDS Ride. "There's a really nice guy behind that poster-boy image," adds Moreton. "He's really up-front, has no pretension. I hate to say he's straight!"

In a talk with The Advocate at his beach-hip three-story, five-bedroom home in Los Angeles's Marina del Rey area, Sabato--the son of "liberal, loving" parents (his dad, who had a bit part in Barbarella, is a famed actor in the family's native Italy)--proves eloquently empathetic to gay men's issues in particular. All kidding aside, this man who was born Catholic in Rome seems to be another reminder that you can't judge a present by its package.

So any cold feet about jumping into Testosterone?

No, I think doing something like this will open up some doors for me. I'll do whatever it takes! [Laughs] My biggest issue was that I didn't want people to say, "Oh, he's playing [gay]. He's not real." I wanted people to think, This guy's been with men before. He knows what he's doin'. This is not his first time. I knew that eyes are going to be on me a little bit more than usual. I wanted to jump in a bed with another man and kiss him and make it believable. I've never been with a guy, so if a gay guy believes my character, that would mean a lot to me.

How did you land the part?

I screen-tested--over and over. Nowadays, people might just say I did it cause gay roles are "hot." But it was a good script and a challenging role. And I know the director, David. Edge of Seventeen was a very good Film.

Did you draw the line between what you would do and wouldn't do in the sex scenes?

No, and the truth is, we didn't really talk about them too much. I figure sex scenes are uncomfortable any way you look at it, but David [Moreton] was a gentleman about the whole thing [laughs]. When I had to kiss the waiter, my room got there that day. I said, "Mom, you might not feel comfortable watching this." And she said, "Hey, I'm not going anywhere." She was really cool about it. She was happy that I was working!

Any epiphanies about kissing a guy?

No. David [Sutcliffe] and I just treated it like just a normal relationship with feelings.

Did anything "move," a la Seinfeld? [Laughs] Ya know, I don't think it moved.

How much testosterone do you have?

I have a lot. I love women--the way they're wearing something, their perfume, their toes---we all have our own little things that we like.

Some gay men go through their own testosterone-pumped phase, where sex is a big part of everyday life. Some come to learn that preoccupation isn't all that fulfilling. Have you ever gone through a phase where you've thought, I've got to slow down!

Oh, no. [Laughs] If I see somebody I like, I'm going to make a move. Nothing's going to stop me. I'm very picky, so I don't find [women] I like that often. So when I do see someone great, I'm going to jump on it like white on rice, like a blanket, like a hot knife to butter, like a glove!

But you're single these days?

Very single--for quite some time! But I don't want my son [Jack, 10; Sabato also has a daughter, Mina, 2] to grow up going, "Who was that girl last night, and who is this one now?" She's got to be right.

Men have certainly lusted after you through the years. Any crazy casting-couch stories?

Well, early on in my career, there was a hairstylist who is very well-known--one of the best. Every time I'd see him he'd say, "You're going to be gay one day." I was like, "I'm glad you know my future!" I took it as a compliment. There's crazy people out there, but he meant it in the best way. He wanted me to be gay for him! We've become friends over the years.

There's a quick moment in your movie that reveals drugs were a part of Dean and Pablo's relationship. There's even mention of the term "speed freak." You're no doubt aware of the domino effect of sex and drugs and HIV. Have you ever had a gay friend with a serious drug problem?

No, thank God. Drugs are an epidemic, and it's devastating. It's destroying souls, relationships, careers, families. People are losing everything they ever worked for, and it's really hard to get out of it. That's the worst part about it--you can't force someone to go to rehab; they've got to do it on their own. If I did have friends like that, I'd be there for them. And I'd ask them, "What in life is worth living for? Is yourself enough? And if it's not, you've got to think about other people around you." As for AIDS, the sad thing is that our government is not doing anything about it. It's important to raise money outside to fund programs to help. I always want to know my [gay] friends are OK.

Did you go through a party phase yourself?

Yeah, especially when I was living in New York in my early 20s. Man, I was out there. I've been around the world, from Spain to St. Tropez, where you start going out at midnight.

You still have a wild side. Yon race cars, ride a Harley, ride horses, go shark fishing. But how metrosexual are you--do you go for mani's and pedi's?

Manicures, pedicures? I love them. I hit the tanning booth and get massages too.

With the popularity of shows like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, are gay guys hitting on you more these days? Any wolf whistles?

No, but people of both sexes have grabbed my ass. I hate that. I've been at nightclubs and signings, and somebody grabs my ass! If somebody asked me if they could touch my ass, I'd probably be OK with it. I might even say, "Let me touch your ass!" But if somebody doesn't ask and I don't expect it, I'm pissed! I don't like not knowing in general. When I was a kid and somebody would tap me on the back of my bead, I'd get really furious. If somebody hides behind a corner and jumps out and goes boo, I hate that! [Laughs] I have a temper--a lot of testosterone--and I've gotten into a lot of fights in the past [most recently, a backstage brawl at a fashion event in Los Angeles in April]. But I try to calm myself down now.

Point noted. So you've gone dancing at gay clubs?

Yeah, I've got many gay friends, and I love the music [at gay clubs]--house, techno, trance; it's awesome. I have a lot of gay friends in Miami. Gianni [Versace] was one of 'em, God bless his soul. We were close. We respected our careers, hanging out with each other and [Versace's sister] Donatella.

You kind of danced in Janet Jackson's video for "Love Will Never Do Without You" [1992]. Did you ever have a wardrobe malfunction during a Calvin Klein underwear shoot?

No! But if I did, I could handle it. I'm not shy about anything. I'm pretty cool with walking around in my underwear. I'm happy with my ... my thing ... my friend ... whatever you want to call it.

Testosterone is partly about taking passion too far-have you ever obsessed over someone yourself?

Oh, yeah. [Rolls eyes] You know a model by the name of Ines Sastre? She's Spanish. She's a [Lancome cosmetics] girl. She's got a little mole here [points to face], dark hair ... you've seen in her in every magazine. Years ago--this is complimenting her, like you cares Ines--I was in New York [at the offices of the Ford modeling agency], and she was there. I didn't know who she was, but I was just stunned. It was like hit-and-run! We talked briefly, and she left. For a year I tried to get in touch with her. She never got back Io me. I'd send her flowers wherever she was, around the world. I was pretty obsessed. She's in Spain, probably dating millionaires. I also called Britney Spears one time to see if she was single. But she never called me back!

You're a romantic, then?

[Smilesl I was more, back then. Now I focus on things that are more important.

Have you ever had to console a gay friend with a broken heart?

Yeah, and I would always say first of all, "Respect yourself. You deserve better than this. You can't take yourself down and give up. You've got to think about yourself and not the other person. Otherwise, you'll destroy yourself."

Has a guy friend ever fallen for you?

There was one, and he didn't know how to approach it; he just felt this thing for me. I said, "Hey, man, if we're going to be friends, you've got to respect me like I respect you. [If you don't] our friendship's not going to work."

You have a crush on a guy yourself in a way ... why the tattoo of Batman on your lower back?

Because he's the only superhero that is human. I've loved reading comic books since I was a kid. I love the colors of his suit, the Batcave, and the fact that he's very dark. I guess I relate because when I first came to America I couldn't speak the language. He has these two lives. He's got nobody in his life but this old man who loves him.

Hmmm.

[Laughs] What I like is that he knows what he's meant to do, and he does it. And nothing will come in the way--women or distraction--of his goal to help people.

If you had to marry a guy, who would it be: Hugh Jackman or Brad Pitt? Ticktock, ticktock ...

[Laughs] I know them both. I'd probably pick Hugh Jackman because he sings--The Boy From Oz was great--and he's Australian. I love Australia! Not to say I wouldn't pick Brad. Brad's cool, but he smokes a lot.

John Kerry or George Bush?

Oh, no-o-o.

Will or Jack?

Oh, Jack! He's fun. He brings the best and worst out in you, man! There's always something going on with him.

Does anyone still call you Junior?

My mom [Yvonne]. She calls me J.R., actually.

What's the most important advice she has given you?

To be humble.

Is there anything small about you?

My ass. I've got a small ass. Everything was moved up front.

RELATED ARTICLE: The men behind Testosterone: a chat with cowriter-director David Moreton and cowriter Dennis Hensley.

Describe Testosterone in two sentences.

Moreton: It's a boy-meets-boy, boy-dumps-boy, boy-chases-boy-to-Argentina story, told in a noir style.

Hensley: With Jennifer Coolidge thrown in for comic relief.

What does the title signify?

Moreton: In the book, by James Robert Baker, the protagonist, Dean, was described as having too much testosterone. In the movie, Dean's masculinity is constantly challenged. He goes to great lengths to prove he can be ms aggressive and, if necessary, as violent as any straight guy.

Hensley: None of the other characters are remotely threatened by him. Mrs. Alesandro [Sonia Braga] turns her back on him while he's holding a gun. Sofia [Celina Font] says to him, "Fags can't kill." It drives him crazy, Literally.

Aside from our cover boy, Antonio Sabato Jr., David Sutcliffe is hugely sexy as Dean.

Moreton: Not only does David have sex appeal and charisma, but there's an emotional intensity percolating just beneath his surface; it's like he could explode an any moment. And he looks great in a wifebeater.

Hensley: Sometimes you see movies where some model is supposed to be, like, a brilliant prize-winning writer and I newer buy it. David Sutcliffe you really buy as the tortured artist.

Dennis, you've developed a near-fanatical cult following with your staged readings of your film dish-a-thon book, Screening Party. What's the secret of your success?

Hensley: Where's this near-fanatical cult following you speak of? Because I'm a relentless self-promoter, it might seem like I'm doing great, but it's all smoke and mirrors.

David, you directed and produced the romantic coming-of-age movie Edge of Seventeen. Did that turn you off romance? Or do you see Testosterone as a romance too?

Moreton: Edge of Seventeen didn't turn me off romance; a certain ex-boyfriend did. I affectionately refer to him as "El Diablo." As I worked on the script I was dealing firsthand with that heartbreak, so I tried to channel that emotion into the story.

Hensley: I wasn't heartbroken when we were writing, but I have been since, and I connect more to the movie now than before. When you're feeling your most brokenhearted, you're really capable of doing the things Dean does in the movie. You feel like, Screw it, my life's over anyway. I might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

Would you guys bring your moms to see this movie? What about your boyfriends?

Hensley: My mother passed away in 2000, but I don't think I would take her. I don't know if she read my book Misadventures in the (213), and there aren't even any exposed gay penises in that. As for guys, I would take a potential boyfriend to see it. But I'd make them buy a ticket.

Moreton: My mom saw it at the Toronto International Film Festival. She closed her eyes during the sex scenes but seemed to enjoy the dinner afterward. I took a date to a cast-and-crew screening, and all I could think about was how this movie made me look as a potential boyfriend. The next day he suddenly remembered that he already had a boyfriend hi New York.

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COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:00 PM

:eek::shocked: That's a bold statement among Lindsey fans :laugh:

Back in the days when my whole family gathered to watch Moonlighting, I *loved* his music. The Moonlighting vinyl was in constant rotation (loved Cybill's songs, too). I was only pushing ten, though, so give me a break. And now I'll crawl back under my rock after making such an embarrassing confession.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:02 PM

Sorry, I think he's ****ing gross. :laugh: Looks like a sock-stuffer, too.

and what was that about MY taste :laugh: I think 99.9% of the people in the world would not label him "gross" - but to each their own :laugh:

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:03 PM

Back in the days when my whole family gathered to watch Moonlighting, I *loved* his music. The Moonlighting vinyl was in constant rotation (loved Cybill's songs, too). I was only pushing ten, though, so give me a break. And now I'll crawl back under my rock after making such an embarrassing confession.

I love it! That's so cute!

And I too loved Moonlighting. What I did NOT love were those Seagram's wine cooler commercials with Bruce Willis singing that stupid little ditty :laugh:.

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:05 PM

and what was that about MY taste :laugh: I think 99.9% of the people in the world would not label him "gross" - but to each their own :laugh:

I have GREAT taste, pal. :laugh: I just don't go for the ones who are all muscle and nothing else. I find them repulsive.

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:06 PM

I love it! That's so cute!

And I too loved Moonlighting. What I did NOT love were those Seagram's wine cooler commercials with Bruce Willis singing that stupid little ditty :laugh:.

:laugh:

Remember Cybill's L'Oreal commercials, too? :laugh: I also remember when they were promoting the 3-D episode of Moonlighting and it never happened because of the writers strike in Hollywood. Boy, I was BUMMED OUT big time. You must get it on DVD, they did such a good job restoring the episodes and with the extras. I've been watching it again all week long.

Miss Vicky

06-10-2005, 12:06 PM

and what was that about MY taste :laugh: I think 99.9% of the people in the world would not label him "gross" - but to each their own :laugh:

That would put me in the 0.1 percentile. Yuck!

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:08 PM

That would put me in the 0.1 percentile. Yuck!

:laugh: - there are more anti-everything people here on The Lege than I have ever seen anywhere else :laugh: But, that's why I love the place :laugh:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:12 PM

:laugh: - there are more anti-everything people here on The Lege than I have ever seen anywhere else :laugh: But, that's why I love the place :laugh:

I'm sorry, love, I just don't go for the Greek Gods. :xoxo:

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:12 PM

:laugh: - there are more anti-everything people here on The Lege than I have ever seen anywhere else :laugh: But, that's why I love the place :laugh:

Oh and you have love for everything? Btch plz. :laugh:

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:14 PM

:laugh:

Remember Cybill's L'Oreal commercials, too? :laugh:

Oh god yes. I've always liked Cybill, she looks JUST LIKE my aunt. I think that's half the reason why!

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:15 PM

I'm sorry, love, I just don't go for the Greek Gods. :xoxo:

He's Italian you blind boob :laugh:

For that faint of heart, I do not think Diss is a boob, though he may have them :laugh: :] :] :]

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Oh and you have love for everything? Btch plz. :laugh:

Do I have to remind you that I HATE Sideways :laugh:

But, yes, I tend to like everything and I also tend to be almost eternally in a good mood - and without medication!!!!!!!! :laugh:

I also do not think many people are ugly and talentless. I just look for the good and usually find it.

Lord Child - I am such a Mary FU*&ING SUNSHINE :laugh:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:18 PM

Oh god yes. I've always liked Cybill, she looks JUST LIKE my aunt. I think that's half the reason why!

She was an absolute knockout back in the day. She still looks pretty damn good, too. A natural beauty. I just ordered The Last Picture Show, hopefully I'll get it soon because I haven't seen it in ages and it's a GREAT movie.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:19 PM

She was an absolute knockout back in the day. She still looks pretty damn good, too. A natural beauty. I just ordered The Last Picture Show, hopefully I'll get it soon because I haven't seen it in ages and it's a GREAT movie.

I lOVED her in "The Last Picture Show" and also in "Taxi Driver" - she was beautiful then and is so now. See, we have it in us to agree on beauty - you beast.

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:20 PM

He's Italian you blind boob :laugh:

For that faint of heart, I do not think Diss is a boob, though he may have them :laugh: :] :] :]

I have no boobs and only one ass, not two. :p

Italian or not, he ain't charismatically good looking as far as I can see. Bland bland bland with too much muscle.

amber

06-10-2005, 12:20 PM

I also do not think many people are ugly and talentless. I just look for the good and usually find it.

Lord Child - I am such a Mary FU*&ING SUNSHINE :laugh:
Wait - You don't want to sit around and Diss everything all day??? :confused: :confused: What's wrong with you?! ;) Why aren't you filled with random hate for many people you don't even know???

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:21 PM

Wait - You don't want to sit around and Diss everything all day??? :confused: :confused: What's wrong with you?! ;) Why aren't you filled with random hate for many people you don't even know???

I only do that with you at 3:00 a.m. over two carts full of room service in Vegas :laugh:

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:22 PM

I just ordered The Last Picture Show, hopefully I'll get it soon because I haven't seen it in ages and it's a GREAT movie.

:nod: I LOVE that movie. The performances were absolutely amazing.

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:22 PM

I lOVED her in "The Last Picture Show" and also in "Taxi Driver" - she was beautiful then and is so now. See, we have it in us to agree on beauty - you beast.

Did you ever see Once Upon A Crime? That one's a guilty pleasure. In her autobio, she describes making that movie and sitting down with Sean Young on the set one day. She looked over at Young and noticed she wasn't wearing underwear. She finally got sick of it and said to her "I'm shooting squirrel from where I'm sitting, kid." :laugh:

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:24 PM

Did you ever see Once Upon A Crime? That one's a guilty pleasure. In her autobio, she describes making that movie and sitting down with Sean Young on the set one day. She looked over at Young and noticed she wasn't wearing underwear. She finally got sick of it and said to her "I'm shooting squirrel from where I'm sitting, kid." :laugh:

OMG - no AND tonight is a stay at home movie night - so Blockbuster (sorry Cliffdweller :laugh: ) here I come :cool:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:25 PM

:nod: I LOVE that movie. The performances were absolutely amazing.

I *loved* Eileen Brennan and Ellen Burstyn in it. Leachman, too. :nod: It's hard to believe that all of them were virtual unknowns at that time.

amber

06-10-2005, 12:25 PM

I only do that with you at 3:00 a.m. over two carts full of room service in Vegas :laugh:
:laugh:
In the future you should try to be much more judgmental of everything!!! It's fun to be nastily critical!! :thumbsup: ;)

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:26 PM

I *loved* Eileen Brennan and Ellen Burstyn in it. Leachman, too. :nod: It's hard to believe that all of them were virtual unknowns at that time.

Those three are amongst my fav. actresses EVER. And - Resurrection with Ellen Burstyn is in my top five movies of all time :nod: As for Leachman - no no dumb scum . . . Death to King LOUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS :laugh:

Miss Vicky

06-10-2005, 12:27 PM

:laugh: - there are more anti-everything people here on The Lege than I have ever seen anywhere else :laugh: But, that's why I love the place :laugh:

<font size="5">I am not anti-everything.</font> :mad:

<font size="1"> Just anti-most things.</font> :D

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:28 PM

OMG - no AND tonight is a stay at home movie night - so Blockbuster (sorry Cliffdweller :laugh: ) here I come :cool:

:rolleyes: You and your Blockbuster...so what else are you thinking about renting? I haven't rented a movie since my Bergman class :eek:. Any suggestions?

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:29 PM

Those three are amongst my fav. actresses EVER. And - Resurrection with Ellen Burstyn is in my top five movies of all time :nod: As for Leachman - no no dumb scum . . . Death to King LOUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS :laugh:

Ellen Burstyn is one of the greatest actresses to ever grace the screen. And she gave her best performance a mere four years ago in Requiem For A Dream. :thumbsup:

I love Brennan's voice; it's so...exotic. Whenever I think of her, I can't help but think of the shower scene in Private Benjamin.

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:30 PM

I *loved* Eileen Brennan and Ellen Burstyn in it. Leachman, too. :nod: It's hard to believe that all of them were virtual unknowns at that time.

Ellen Burstyn is one of my favorite actresses of all time. I loved her in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, The Excorcist, and Requiem For a Dream.

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:33 PM

Ellen Burstyn is one of my favorite actresses of all time. I loved her in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, The Excorsist, and Requiem For a Dream.

Her performance in Requiem has to be one the best performances ever caught on film, right up there with Sally Kirkland in Anna. :nod: She was hauting in that movie and I was, literally, a wreck when it was over. The last twenty minutes were pure torture, more than anything I've seen in any other movie. The intensity of it was unbearable and I, personally, think they should show that movie in every high school across the country.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:34 PM

:rolleyes: You and your Blockbuster...so what else are you thinking about renting? I haven't rented a movie since my Bergman class :eek:. Any suggestions?

Well, last night at Screen on the Green (Turner donated this huge removeable screen in Piedmont Park (our Central Park if you will) and thousands go to see classics with blankets and wine :cool: ) - I saw "To Kill a Mockingbird" - which so reminds me of my childhood everytime I see it. So, I may rent more Gregory Peck movies like Gentleman's Agreement. I also will check out some of the newer titles I missed in the theatre. I also want to see, on advice of a friend, "His Secret Life" http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?movieID=122889 and perhaps Before Sunrise http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?channel=Movies&subChannel=sub&movieID=112158&displayBoxArt=true which I have wanted to rent for awhile, but never got around to it.

What you gonna rent?

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:35 PM

Her performance in Requiem has to be one the best performances ever caught on film, right up there with Sally Kirkland in Anna. :nod: She was hauting in that movie and I was, literally, a wreck when it was over. The last twenty minutes were pure torture, more than anything I've seen in any other movie. The intensity of it was unbearable and I, personally, think they should show that movie in every high school across the country.

There were so many disturbing scenes in that movie---I don't think I could watch it again, but you're right, it's a great movie and Ellen should have won the Academy Award. Wait, did she?

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:36 PM

Ellen Burstyn is one of the greatest actresses to ever grace the screen. And she gave her best performance a mere four years ago in Requiem For A Dream. :thumbsup:

I love Brennan's voice; it's so...exotic. Whenever I think of her, I can't help but think of the shower scene in Private Benjamin.

I LOVE Private Benjamin and EB was one of the main reasons why. It is hard to upstage Goldie Hawn, who I also love, but EB did it in spades. I also love with she uses her ridng crop to fondle the recruits and don't get me started with praise for her playing of the surveillance photos in Paris - SHE'S A RED!!!!!!!!!!!!

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:37 PM

There were so many disturbing scenes in that movie---I don't think I could watch it again, but you're right, it's a great movie and Ellen should have won the Academy Award. Wait, did she?

NO. THAT HORSE JULIA ROBERTS DID.

Ellen was nominated and lost to that thing. Further proof that the Oscars are a sick joke.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:38 PM

NO. THAT HORSE JULIA ROBERTS DID.

Ellen was nominated and lost to that thing. Further proof that the Oscars are a sick joke.

Esp. for Erin B. - I mean it was an okay movie and all, but hardly Oscar worthy IMO, esp. in that company, which IMO only further demonstrated her lesser performance in a comparative B film.

cliffdweller

06-10-2005, 12:40 PM

Well, last night at Screen on the Green (Turner donated this huge removeable screen in Piedmont Park (our Central Park if you will) and thousands go to see classics with blankets and wine :cool: ) - I saw "To Kill a Mockingbird" - which so reminds me of my childhood everytime I see it. So, I may rent more Gregory Peck movies like Gentleman's Agreement. I also will check out some of the newer titles I missed in the theatre. I also want to see, on advice of a friend, "His Secret Life" http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?movieID=122889 and perhaps Before Sunrise http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?channel=Movies&subChannel=sub&movieID=112158&displayBoxArt=true which I have wanted to rent for awhile, but never got around to it.

What you gonna rent?

I don't know...every time we go to rent something we get lost in the video store. The store we go to is HUGE and they have EVERYTHING under the sun so you can kind of get lost in all the titles. Plus they categorize under director and sometimes actor as well as by comedy, drama, horror, sci-fi, etc and then you have all the foreign films...Livia knows the place it's called I <3 Video. Anyhoo, as far as new releases, I don't know what's out. I don't think this is out on video yet, but I want to rent The Ring II because I just found out that a friend of mine from high school is in it!!!!!! :eek: I just want to see her, I hear the movie is total ****.

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:45 PM

I don't know...every time we go to rent something we get lost in the video store. The store we go to is HUGE and they have EVERYTHING under the sun so you can kind of get lost in all the titles. Plus they categorize under director and sometimes actor as well as by comedy, drama, horror, sci-fi, etc and then you have all the foreign films...Livia knows the place it's called I <3 Video. Anyhoo, as far as new releases, I don't know what's out. I don't think this is out on video yet, but I want to rent The Ring II because I just found out that a friend of mine from high school is in it!!!!!! :eek: I just want to see her, I hear the movie is total ****.

I saw it in the theatre. It was okay, but hardly ground breaking in that "I bet the car won't start and here comes the monster - or she trips while running" way. But, it was worth a rental fee, esp. if your friend is in it. Also, the part on the road when they are attacked (no spoiler from me) is pretty creepy. But, it not as good as the first and nowhere near the Japanese original - which I rent tonight if I can find it. Nothing like sitting at home with the bejeesis scared out of you :laugh:

dissention

06-10-2005, 12:51 PM

I saw it in the theatre. It was okay, but hardly ground breaking in that "I bet the car won't start and here comes the monster - or she trips while running" way. But, it was worth a rental fee, esp. if your friend is in it. Also, the part on the road when they are attacked (no spoiler from me) is pretty creepy. But, it not as good as the first and nowhere near the Japanese original - which I rent tonight if I can find it. Nothing like sitting at home with the bejeesis scared out of you :laugh:

If you have any good independent video stores aorund, try to get Haute Tension (High Tension) on DVD; you'll love it. It was released in theaters today, but most independent video stores will have the Korean DVD of it. That sucker will scare the bejesus out of you!

strandinthewind

06-10-2005, 12:53 PM

If you have any good independent video stores aorund, try to get Haute Tension (High Tension) on DVD; you'll love it. It was released in theaters today, but most independent video stores will have the Korean DVD of it. That sucker will scare the bejesus out of you!

There are not that many around here. There is one a few miles away next to a WAY cool Mexican Rest. - hmmmmmmmmmmm - might be time for some guac. :laugh: Thanks for the tip!!!

Serrart

06-10-2005, 06:18 PM

I think that's the only one that I don't have. From what I hear he has only a very small role in it so I haven't convinced myself to fork over the $$ to pick it up. Is it worth it?

Like I said, RC isn't my favorite actor (That place is reserved for his former costar Joaquin Phoenix). But I loved him in a lot of his movies - Gladiator (of course), The Quick and the Dead, Romper Stomper, L.A. Confidential, and The Sum of Us. Also liked him in Mystery, Alaska (the movie sucked but he looked great).

Yes his role in Spotswood is small, even if he has some tense interaction with Anthony Hopkins (he's the reason why I have the movie :D ). If you find it on sale with major discounts I'd say it deserved to be seen, it's a good movie (Both Tony an Toni Collette are superb :thumbsup: ) .

Romy

dissention

06-10-2005, 07:13 PM

They showed it in Kate's! She was asking me about it and I told her that when the Winter titlecard comes down to go running. :laugh:

Good advice. :laugh:

I watched it a few nights ago. Ellen never fails to make me cry like a baby. Thanks, Ellen!

That one scene where her friends go to visit her in the mental ward and see her standing there, thin as a rail, white as a ghost, and with her hair all chopped off is just devastating. I dare anyone to show me an actress with as much guts as Miss Burstyn for taking on that role and doing all of that. That performance just amazes me, it's what acting truly is. She makes you forget that you're watching Ellen Burstyn to the point where you actually believe that this woman is dying in front of your eyes. It chills me to the bone.

And Jennifer Connelly was no slouch in it, either.