Evangelical Call to Action

[David]

The National Association of Evangelicals’ statement identifies seven areas of concern in which evangelicals should step up their social engagement:

— We work to protect religious freedom and liberty of conscience.
— We work to nurture family life and protect children.
— We work to protect the sanctity of human life and to safeguard its nature.
— We seek justice and compassion for the poor and vulnerable.
— We work to protect human rights.
— We seek peace and work to restrain violence.
— We labor to protect God's creation.
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Do they ever break for lunch?

[strandinthewind]

We work to protect religious freedom and liberty of conscience.

Then stop shoving religion down peoples' throats

We work to nurture family life and protect children.

Then get the party you put in power to pay for health care for children instead of lining Halliburton's pockets.

We work to protect the sanctity of human life and to safeguard its nature.

Then get the party you put in power to pay for health care for children instead of lining Halliburton's pockets.

We seek justice and compassion for the poor and vulnerable.

Then get the party you put in power to provide funding and adequate medical care for the homeless

We work to protect human rights.

Which ones? Because last I checked, unless you make over $30,000 a year and have health care, ytou have no rights. Or are the human rights they refer to the ones listed in The Bible, esp. the ones about not eating shellfish.

We seek peace and work to restrain violence.

Then get on W, who you put in power, for going to war in Iraq under false pretenses to the tune of hundreds of thousands dead.

We labor to protect God's creation.

That would be the Christian God and no other God :rolleyes:

These people just give me the creeps with this self righteous tone when I know by history these seemingly good points are just another means for them to make money off of selling people their twisted version of Christ's good deeds on this planet.

[wondergirl9847]

Because last I checked, unless you make over $30,000 a year and have health care, ytou have no rights. Or are the human rights they refer to the ones listed in The Bible, esp. the ones about not eating shellfish.

I don't make HALF that a year....and I have ZERO health care. :mad:

Ppppfffffttt!

Shellfish, LMAO!! I don't like seafood, except fish...and I'm VERY picky about that too. :laugh:

Jesus didn't own a home or hold a job, so he would be considered "homeless". Would He have been treated the way America treats our homeless?

[jannieC]

Then stop shoving religion down peoples' throats



Then get the party you put in power to pay for health care for children instead of lining Halliburton's pockets.



Then get the party you put in power to pay for health care for children instead of lining Halliburton's pockets.



Then get the party you put in power to provide funding and adequate medical care for the homeless



Which ones? Because last I checked, unless you make over $30,000 a year and have health care, ytou have no rights. Or are the human rights they refer to the ones listed in The Bible, esp. the ones about not eating shellfish.



Then get on W, who you put in power, for going to war in Iraq under false pretenses to the tune of hundreds of thousands dead.



That would be the Christian God and no other God :rolleyes:

These people just give me the creeps with this self righteous tone when I know by history these seemingly good points are just another means for them to make money off of selling people their twisted version of Christ's good deeds on this planet.

OMG, this post was perfect! :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

Jesus didn't own a home or hold a job, so he would be considered "homeless". Would He have been treated the way America treats our homeless?Good question, Christy.

Sadly, I have the feeling that if Jesus were alive today, he would be treated like a third-class citizen and a liberal trouble-maker, by the very people who profess to do his work.

[strandinthewind]

Good question, Christy.

Sadly, I have the feeling that if Jesus were alive today, he would be treated like a third-class citizen and a liberal trouble-maker, by the very people who profess to do his work.

Which is the very way he was treated by the oilgarchs and theocrats in His day :nod:

[SteveMacD]

Sadly, I have the feeling that if Jesus were alive today, he would be treated like a third-class citizen and a liberal trouble-maker, by the very people who profess to do his work.
As I've said before, Jerry Falwell is the kind of guy who would have gleefully handed the Romans the nails...

[strandinthewind]

As I've said before, Jerry Falwell is the kind of guy who would have gleefully handed the Romans the nails...

While charging his "flock" a $100 roman coins per nail and then having a pledge to guess the number of hammer strokes - all while telling you you are going to hell if you think differently :mad:

To be fair, not all religion is this way and not all religious people, even evangelicals, are these way. Sadly, the most successful are.

[wondergirl9847]

God knows a man's heart...;)

[Johnny Stew]

God knows a man's heart...;)I just hope he doesn't read my thoughts between Midnight and 4am! :shocked: :laugh:

"Aww, man... I'm a sinner and God's a pervert!" - Chris Griffin.

[seeker007nmss]

The National Association of Evangelicals’ statement identifies seven areas of concern in which evangelicals should step up their social engagement:




Weren't this listed in Chapter Three of Mein Kampf? I might be mistaken. :p

[dissention]

Weren't this listed in Chapter Three of Mein Kampf? I might be mistaken. :p

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

[QUOTE=David]The National Association of Evangelicals’ statement identifies seven areas of concern in which evangelicals should step up their social engagement:

— We work to protect religious freedom and liberty of conscience for evangelical Christians.
— We work to nurture family life and protect children of evangelical Christians.
— We work to protect the sanctity of human life of evangelical Christians and to safeguard its nature.
— We seek justice and compassion for the poor and vulnerable evangelical Christians.
— We work to protect human rights for evangelical Christians.
— We seek peace and work to restrain violence against evangelical Christians.
— We labor to protect God's creation, evangelical Christians.
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Do they ever break for lunch?[QUOTE]

My adjustments in green above.

[Mari]

I can agree to a lot of those 'area's ', but it's just a matter of how you translate that in practical terms.. they say tomato, I say tomaat..

[eclipse]

Just what I love...a nice and friendly chat; non-controversial chat about religion.

It is an impossible feat.
People (regardless of who their "GOD" ..whatever it or he/she may be...Or on the other end of the spectrum.. Believing in nothing-(which by the way...is still a belief!) Each and every person has a thought-emotion-opinion-judgement about religion-
Always have`` since day 1 and always will`` It is human to question and human to blame--

just wanted to add a friendly aside ;) :p

~~eclipse~~

[strandinthewind]

No doubt. If someone went around today proclaiming to be the son of God, people would call them a loony and treat them just the way the Jews treated Jesus. They weren't blind to his powers or any of that ****, they were just thinking on more rational, practical terms.


I love it when we agree :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Just what I love...a nice and friendly chat; non-controversial chat about religion.

It is an impossible feat.
People (regardless of who their "GOD" ..whatever it or he/she may be...Or on the other end of the spectrum.. Believing in nothing-(which by the way...is still a belief!) Each and every person has a thought-emotion-opinion-judgement about religion-
Always have`` since day 1 and always will`` It is human to question and human to blame--

just wanted to add a friendly aside ;) :p

~~eclipse~~


Fortunately and for that very reason, our Founding Fathers knew that and therefore made an explicit attempt to keep government out or validating or establishing one religion. A fact which none on the religious right seem to give a shiitte about these days.

[SuzeQuze]

Just what I love...a nice and friendly chat; non-controversial chat about religion.

It is an impossible feat.
People (regardless of who their "GOD" ..whatever it or he/she may be...Or on the other end of the spectrum.. Believing in nothing-(which by the way...is still a belief!) Each and every person has a thought-emotion-opinion-judgement about religion-
Always have`` since day 1 and always will`` It is human to question and human to blame--

just wanted to add a friendly aside ;) :p

~~eclipse~~

Yes but fundamentalist Christians believe their religion is right while everyone else is wrong. This is arrogant and dangerous thinking IMO.

[strandinthewind]

Yes but fundamentalist Christians believe their religion is right while everyone else is wrong. This is arrogant and dangerous thinking IMO.

Again, that is why the Founding Fathers had the very fortunate mindset to bar the govt. from establish a religion. Yet, the religious right cannot stand that. Personally, I think the flock there is blinded by religious fever and cannot see that Jerry Falwell and his ilk are just in it for the money. I mean they are hardly the meek who shall inherit the Earth and the way that ilk treats the "least of us" that Christ talks about is sickening. I get that these organizations do significant charity work, but no matter what good those do, they support a regime and past regimes that have directly caused many deaths and much suffering through no health care so they can make a few million more a year and perhaps take a few more trips on their GulfStream V.

[SuzeQuze]

Again, that is why the Founding Fathers had the very fortunate mindset to bar the govt. from establish a religion. Yet, the religious right cannot stand that. Personally, I think the flock there is blinded by religious fever and cannot see that Jerry Falwell and his ilk are just in it for the money. I mean they are hardly the meek who shall inherit the Earth and the way that ilk treats the "least of us" that Christ talks about is sickening. I get that these organizations do significant charity work, but no matter what good those do, they support a regime and past regimes that have directly caused many deaths and much suffering through no health care so they can make a few million more a year and perhaps take a few more trips on their GulfStream V.

And their churches get tax exempt status while they preach politics at the pulpit...etc. We agree on this stuff, strand.

[strandinthewind]

And their churches get tax exempt status while they preach politics at the pulpit...etc. We agree on this stuff, strand.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

. . . If religion weren't introduced to us by society I don't know that it would have occured to me naturally.

That is an interesting concept. I think religion came about as a way for man to explain the reason he is here and as a reason to explain natural events that seem aimed at one person or a society as a whole. Plus, the whole concept of bad behavior seems inate in that kids know somehow when they have done something wrong. So, I do not know if it occured naturally to society as a whole for those reasons. It also was used and is still used as a governing measure.

[strandinthewind]

. . . I never asked anyone where babies come from either . . . .


But you do know now - right :wavey:

But, I agree, the inate concept of a guiding power cannot be universal.

[strandinthewind]

Well daddy gets drunk and tells mummy to shut up and lay still and then they forget to have the abortion and baby is born.

You are so bad :p

[seeker007nmss]

You are so bad :p

Atleast the words "Turkey Baster" weren't used. :nod:

[strandinthewind]

Atleast the words "Turkey Baster" weren't used. :nod:

Did I ever tell you about when I was in Law School and we were discussing paternity and related residual rights automatically granted by the state.

Well, my professor, who rarely saw humor in ANYTHING, showed us this video doc. of these two lesbians who were a couple and their ohhhhhh so flamingly homosexual friend, the sperm donor. At one point, about six lesbians are in the room and the male donor is loping around with turkey baster in hand urging a sing along to "Turkey baster babies - turkey baster babies" (sung to the tune of "Everything you wanted but didn't get for Chistomas is on sale now at Sears" :eek: ) and the sensible gals while initially unamused - soon joined the racous fold and they soon were all hopping aroung singing that. My poor professor could not understand why the ENTIRE class was crying with laughter :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

Did I ever tell you about when I was in Law School and we were discussing paternity and related residual rights automatically granted by the state.

Well, my professor, who rarely saw humor in ANYTHING, showed us this video doc. of these two lesbians who were a couple and their ohhhhhh so flamingly homosexual friend, the sperm donor. At one point, about six lesbians are in the room and the male donor is loping around with turkey baster in hand urging a sing along to "Turkey baster babies - turkey baster babies" (sung to the tune of "Everything you wanted but didn't get for Chistomas is on sale now at Sears" :eek: ) and the sensible gals while initially unamused - soon joined the racous fold and they soon were all hopping aroung singing that. My poor professor could not understand why the ENTIRE class was crying with laughter :laugh:

:eek: :lol: I worry about that professor for not finding that funny!