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GeminiCusp82
04-30-2005, 10:00 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/thehotspot/

I added a spot on my site that everyone should check out. It is called "The Angel Conspiracy". That is this week's title..next week I will add something else on there that is along the same lines. What do you all think? Pretty uncanny huh? :nod:
amber
04-30-2005, 01:55 PM
Ha, I liked the second mix with the "ahooooooo" and the "ooo,ooo,ooo".
But I never would've thought they were very alike. Though I see your point...
catinthedark
04-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Holy CR*P!!! I think Stevie would have grounds for a lawsuit on the "New York" tune. I can't remember now if you said on your site, but do you know when Ashcroft wrote his? I'm stunned. It is the SAME song (er, with not quite so poetic words). Even down to the weird, produced vocal bridge lines in the middle.
David
04-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Holy CR*P!!! I think Stevie would have grounds for a lawsuit on the "New York" tune.Stevie wouldn't, but Richard might! "New York" is on an album called "Alone with Everybody" that was released in 2000.
Serrart
04-30-2005, 06:12 PM
Stevie wouldn't, but Richard might! "New York" is on an album called "Alone with Everybody" that was released in 2000.

I don't find them really similar or maybe since I didn't like that album I just hope she hasn't taken anything from it. :p I always thought about the bassline in Illume the cool idea was to bring out a melody that's commonly used. Am I totally crazy? :cool:

Romy
catinthedark
04-30-2005, 06:31 PM
Stevie wouldn't, but Richard might! "New York" is on an album called "Alone with Everybody" that was released in 2000.

Hahaha! Oops. Well, Richard may very well have a case then.... The bassline, the general melody... but then that weird-sounding vocal bridge, too. That's what seals it for me. Without it, it's already the same song. With it? Yikes.
Dreammms
04-30-2005, 06:43 PM
Hahaha! Oops. Well, Richard may very well have a case then.... The bassline, the general melody... but then that weird-sounding vocal bridge, too. That's what seals it for me. Without it, it's already the same song. With it? Yikes.

Did u listen to edge and bring on the night? that one is crazy.
ShangriLaTroubl
04-30-2005, 06:44 PM
i think the Angel - wherewolves of london connection is a little vague

but Illume and New York and the Police and Edge are almost EXACT

Chris
Serrart
04-30-2005, 06:51 PM
About song with similarities, I have always loved this site:
http://www.thomasirvin.com/sss.html

Pop/ rock music is quite a little world, it seems ;)


Romy
Merf
04-30-2005, 07:24 PM
Holy CR*P!!! I think Stevie would have grounds for a lawsuit on the "New York" tune. I can't remember now if you said on your site, but do you know when Ashcroft wrote his? I'm stunned. It is the SAME song (er, with not quite so poetic words). Even down to the weird, produced vocal bridge lines in the middle.

As a Richard Ashcroft fan, let me put this to rest for like, I don't know, the millionth time.

Richard wrote that song, "New York", before 2000, before 9/11 even happened, before Stevie even wrote Illume.

EDIT: Pretty much what David said. :)
ShangriLaTroubl
04-30-2005, 07:25 PM
As a Richard Ashcroft fan, let me put this to rest for like, I don't know, the millionth time.

Richard wrote that song, "New York", before 2000, before 9/11 even happened, before Stevie even wrote Illume.

To my understanding everyone is referring to the similarities in the MUSIC not the meaning of the lyrics

Chris
Merf
04-30-2005, 07:27 PM
To my understanding everyone is referring to the similarities in the MUSIC not the meaning of the lyrics

Chris

That's what I'm saying.

How could Richard rip off music to a song that wasn't even conceived when he wrote HIS song?
ShangriLaTroubl
04-30-2005, 07:30 PM
That's what I'm saying.

How could Richard rip off music to a song that wasn't even conceived when he wrote HIS song?

Lol he didnt, Fleetwood Mac ripped his song off

Chris
Dreammms
04-30-2005, 08:01 PM
Lol he didnt, Fleetwood Mac ripped his song off

Chris

yeah basically all jeremy is trying to do is show you how stevie/mac rip off songs.
wondergirl9847
04-30-2005, 08:23 PM
She TOTALLY ripped off The Police. LOL I think there is argument when it comes to this type of thing...did they do it intentionally or are those songs in their "vault". I think you can hear so much music in your lifetime, and it meshes together sometimes.

That NY bassline is totally ripped. That is a pretty rad song. I love Illume too. :nod: They should have given some credit, because that is too much of a coinkydink the song being named NY and Illume being about 9/11. :shocked:

Angel/Werewolves....wierd. I never noticed that before. Ahoooooo....Oooohooo!!!! LMAO!!
David
04-30-2005, 09:03 PM
the Police and Edge are almost EXACTThe only similarity I hear between "Bring on the Night" & "Edge of 17" is the drum arrangement. The chords aren't the same, the chord progression isn't the same, the melodic arc of the lead vocal isn't the same & the rhythm guitar arrangement isn't the same.

What are you guys hearing that's so similar?
David
04-30-2005, 09:05 PM
I don't find them really similar or maybe since I didn't like that album I just hope she hasn't taken anything from it. :p I always thought about the bassline in Illume the cool idea was to bring out a melody that's commonly used. Am I totally crazy?when I first heard the Richard so-and-so song, I thought the similarity (bass line, vocal pattern within the measure, some guitar work, general vibe) was pretty major. But I've been playing it more & more -- I actually like the song -- & now the similarity is waning.
ShangriLaTroubl
04-30-2005, 09:06 PM
well i shouldnt have said EXACT...but even Waddy admitted to stealing from the police in edge

chris
ShangriLaTroubl
04-30-2005, 09:09 PM
Illume is such a rip off, the music anyway, of New York it's crazy...listen with headphones and you can really hear it....

Chris
catinthedark
05-01-2005, 01:26 AM
As a Richard Ashcroft fan, let me put this to rest for like, I don't know, the millionth time.

Richard wrote that song, "New York", before 2000, before 9/11 even happened, before Stevie even wrote Illume.

EDIT: Pretty much what David said. :)

Yep - got it. That's why I corrected myself right away. I (as a non fan of Richard Ashcroft) didn't know he'd written New York first. But as my post above says, HE'D have grounds for a lawsuit. Illume is a total ripoff. Makes me a little sad.