Atlantic City 6/30/05 $253.50

[MacMan]

Is this old or new news?

The Legacy is reporting......

Stevie and Don will be performing on 6/30/05 at 8pm in the Event Center at The Borgata Hotel in Atlantic City.

Tickets will go on sale 4/30/05 at 10am.

Ticket prices are
$253.50
$203
$153.98

[amber]

That's pretty expensive. And that's my birthday. :p

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Are prices at Atlantic City usually more expensive than the other shows? Lord I hope so!

Chris

[gldstwmn]

Jesus H. Christ. That's worse than I thought it would be.

[AliceLover]

Are you f**king kidding me?

No! No! No!

Hey amber thats my birthday too!


Thank God for Stevie playing these Vegas shows.




Jimmy

[GODDESS6]

Is this old or new news?

The Legacy is reporting......

Stevie and Don will be performing on 6/30/05 at 8pm in the Event Center at The Borgata Hotel in Atlantic City.

Tickets will go on sale 4/30/05 at 10am.

Ticket prices are
$253.50
$203
$153.98
:distress: :distress: :distress:

[WelshWitchPMD]

AC is more but if that is the going price then the other venues will be almost $200.00. If this is true then this bill is sure to be a bomb. :rolleyes:

Vegas seems like a deal, now. :shrug:

[glitter_fades]

NO FREAKIN WAY. :eek:

Who's crazy enough to pay that?

[estranged4life]

I trade for DVD's, I aint paying that amount to see ANYONE in concert...I hope it is only the price for that big-ripoff town known as Ass-Lantic ****ty, I meant Atlantic City :nod:

[MacMan]

Apparently the venue that they are going to be playing in seats about 3,700 peeps.

[WelshWitchPMD]

I trade for DVD's, I aint paying that amount to see ANYONE in concert...I hope it is only the price for that big-ripoff town known as Ass-Lantic ****ty, I meant Atlantic City :nod:


I am not going to pay that, either! :mad: I don't care where they play either.

I think that The Mac was about $150.00 for AC. There other shows were about $125.00. I am going to say that the average price for this tour will be abour $175.00 before the TM fees. :rolleyes:

This is going to be one long, boring summer.

[dissention]

How obscene. I think this a sign that retirement is near.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Apparently the venue that they are going to be playing in seats about 3,700 peeps.


Well even when F-Mac played there it wasnt near that expensive...


Chris

[glitter_fades]

How obscene. I think this a sign that retirement is near.

:nod:

$$$$$

[WelshWitchPMD]

How obscene. I think this a sign that retirement is near.


I guess this is why she was reluctant to tour with The Mac this summer. We get this instead. :rolleyes:

[amber]

Are you f**king kidding me?

No! No! No!

Hey amber thats my birthday too!


Thank God for Stevie playing these Vegas shows.




Jimmy
Nuh uh!!! For reals? :thumbsup:
Jimmeh!!!!!

[Dreammms]

This is friggin' crazy. :mad:

[seeker007nmss]

I hope Stevie doesn't go on the "Rhinstone Cape Tour " Alla Elvis and do nothing but high priced summer shows and Vegas.


"Stevie has left the building"..............

[GypsySorcerer]

Outrageous! I can't wait to miss it.

[sodascouts]

No way. This can't be right. It's just not good business - no one would pay that!

[no_spoken_word]

Jeez, those prices would make Mick Fleetwood himself blush!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Dear Stevie, Don and the asshole that thought people would pay this much to buy tickets.

YOU'RE NOT LIVIN' IN THE REAAAL WOOOOORLD!

No Love,
Everyone.

[gldstwmn]

and the asshole that thought people would pay this much to buy tickets.

Irving Azoff, maybe?
Stevie's management should be flogged for allowing this to happen.

[catinthedark]

That's just disgusting. Outrageous and disgusting. And just so disappointing to those of us who are real fans (the diehard fans) who will defend her to the end... but who can't afford b*llsh*t like that.

[glitter_fades]

No way. This can't be right. It's just not good business - no one would pay that!

Lordy. I guess somebody's counting on all those fans who'd pay to see Stevie read the phone book as long as she wears the right shawl.

:] :] :] :]

[GardenStateGirlie]

Irving Azoff, maybe?
Stevie's management should be flogged for allowing this to happen.

It's possible.

Apparently, Stevie's right...we're not all lying around, smoking dope, waiting to see what the number one record is going to be. We're lying around anticipating to get screwed big time :distress:

It's disgusting...casino or not. I wouldn't pay this much to see anyone...not even Stevie 45 minutes away from my house. Unless I win tickets or someone gives them to me for free, i'm not going anywhere.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Lordy. I guess somebody's counting on all those fans who'd pay to see Stevie read the phone book as long as she wears the right shawl.

:] :] :] :]

Oh, and I don't doubt people will go into debt to follow her around with Don. I wasn't too jazzed she was touring with him to begin with and now? i'm really not jazzed.

[glitter_fades]

It's possible.

Apparently, Stevie's right...we're not all lying around, smoking dope, waiting to see what the number one record is going to be. We're lying around anticipating to get screwed big time :distress:

It's disgusting...casino or not. I wouldn't pay this much to see anyone...not even Stevie 45 minutes away from my house. Unless I win tickets or someone gives them to me for free, i'm not going anywhere.

They must think we're on the floor smokin crack.

If I won those tickets I'd be selling em as fast as I could to pay off my daughter's prom dress. Not all of us have delinquent children.
Some have prom queens who needed expensive orthodontia. Where are those phone book people when you need to sell a pair of tickets?
:shrug:

[gldstwmn]

They must think we're on the floor smokin crack.


Oh somebody's smoking something, alright. It's whoever sold her on this deal.

[dissention]

Oh somebody's smoking something, alright. It's whoever sold her on this deal.

And Stevie for buying it.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Oh somebody's smoking something, alright. It's whoever sold her on this deal.


Sounds to me like she wants to buy out of her deal but is trying to make all she can before she buys it out which would mean she's being pressured from somewhere. I wonder how much she would stand to loose if she did buy out?

[gldstwmn]

And Stevie for buying it.

Yup. Time to go put the asbestos undies on now. :woohoo: :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Sounds to me like she wants to buy out of her deal but is trying to make all she can before she buys it out which would mean she's being pressured from somewhere. I wonder how much she would stand to loose if she did buy out?

I have no idea.

[Farrah]

Ouch. It took me 2 days to win that much at the 3-card poker table last time I was in AC. I really want to go, but unless I find somebody who gets comped at the Borgata, ouch.

Did they add the $3.50 for effect or something?

[dissention]

It's possible.

Apparently, Stevie's right...we're not all lying around, smoking dope, waiting to see what the number one record is going to be. We're lying around anticipating to get screwed big time :distress:

It's disgusting...casino or not. I wouldn't pay this much to see anyone...not even Stevie 45 minutes away from my house. Unless I win tickets or someone gives them to me for free, i'm not going anywhere.

I wouldn't pay that much to see her if she let me choose the setlist.

They must be out of their minds if they honestly think that people have that much disposable income hanging around to line their pockets and fill a venue with. This is going to bomb and rightfully so. I think I'll save my couple hundred bucks and try to fill up my gas tank.

[GardenStateGirlie]

They must think we're on the floor smokin crack.

If I won those tickets I'd be selling em as fast as I could to pay off my daughter's prom dress. Not all of us have delinquent children.
Some have prom queens who needed expensive orthodontia. Where are those phone book people when you need to sell a pair of tickets?
:shrug:

I don't even think crack would make us that delusional.

:laugh:

Good luck finding potential buyers for the most expensive nostalgia trip of the year. I'll stick to VH1 Classics, thanks.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Ouch. It took me 2 days to win that much at the 3-card poker table last time I was in AC. I really want to go, but unless I find somebody who gets comped at the Borgata, ouch.

Did they add the $3.50 for effect or something?

I have a My Borgata card (it's not mine, it's my grandmothers boyfriend). FM would have been comped for me but he hadn't been there that month. Tickets for FM were a hell of a lot cheaper than this so i'm wondering if they'll even comp unless you're a serious high roller.

Apparently 3 is the magic number...yes?

[dissention]

Yup. Time to go put the asbestos undies on now. :woohoo: :laugh:

LMAO! :laugh:

Lord, this tour is going to be a riot. I can't wait to see the returns!

[glitter_fades]

Sounds to me like she wants to buy out of her deal but is trying to make all she can before she buys it out which would mean she's being pressured from somewhere. I wonder how much she would stand to loose if she did buy out?

Music really is such a dirty business. As much as I like to rag on Stevie, I hope she's not being pulled like a wishbone.
I want to think there's a method to her madness. Getting back in the studio with FM, ASAP? :thumbsup:

Otherwise, there's such a thing as saying NO or ENOUGH! :nod:

[GardenStateGirlie]

LMAO! :laugh:

Lord, this tour is going to be a riot. I can't wait to see the returns!

****, I can't wait to see the reviews.

[gldstwmn]

I don't even think crack would make us that delusional.

:laugh:

Good luck finding potential buyers for the most expensive nostalgia trip of the year. I'll stick to VH1 Classics, thanks.

Honey, just pop in Timespace or Bella Donna or Enchanted and listed to Leather and Lace and/or The Highwayman. It's a hell of a lot cheaper.

[GypsySorcerer]

Boy, this makes that Petty tour look even better.

[glitter_fades]

Yup. Time to go put the asbestos undies on now. :woohoo: :laugh:

I'm unburrying my old fallout shelter. This thing's goin nuclear. :rolleyes:

[dissention]

****, I can't wait to see the reviews.

They're going to be brutal. The bitch in me can't wait to see those two get ripped to shreds.

[gldstwmn]

LMAO! :laugh:

Lord, this tour is going to be a riot. I can't wait to see the returns!

I honestly didn't think they would breach the $200 mark.

[Farrah]

Would probably have to invest $10,000 to get the $250 tickets.

Maybe they'll change their minds when the show doesn't sell.


Tickets for FM were a hell of a lot cheaper than this so i'm wondering if they'll even comp unless you're a serious high roller.

Apparently 3 is the magic number...yes?

[gldstwmn]

I'm unburrying my old fallout shelter. This thing's goin nuclear. :rolleyes:

:laugh: We might be safe 'til mornin'.

[gldstwmn]

Would probably have to invest $10,000 to get the $250 tickets.

Maybe they'll change their minds when the show doesn't sell.

I doubt it. The guarantees have already been set. It's not like the two of them are going to travel by bus.

[dissention]

I honestly didn't think they would breach the $200 mark.

Oh, I did, but I didn't expect $253.50. Just for the simple fact that they would not have one band, they'd have two. One for her, one for him. It's going to be the most costly dud in the past couple of years. :nod:

Plus, for most people, going to concerts isn't cheap in the first place. Parking, tour merchandise/useless crap, food and drink, travel expenses, etc. Add all of that to the ticket prices and no one is going to want to venture out for this cash grab that they're trying to call entertainment.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Music really is such a dirty business. As much as I like to rag on Stevie, I hope she's not being pulled like a wishbone.
I want to think there's a method to her madness. Getting back in the studio with FM, ASAP? :thumbsup:

Otherwise, there's such a thing as saying NO or ENOUGH! :nod:

I think she does want to get into the studio with FM asap. I still think she's feeling external pressure and the weight of a deal she made on her shoulders but I think her time with FM made her realize she can't wait to work from the ground up with them. IMO, this whole Vegas thing will be enough of a solo jaunt for her that she'll want to go back to working with them asap. Either FM or solo...we can't loose...just as long as the ticket prices are never this expensive again and her album isn't like, dipped in gold first.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Add all of that to the ticket prices and no one is going to want to venture out for this cash grab that they're trying to call entertainment.

My dog takes more entertaining ****s.

Back in 1998 at A Day In The Garden, i'm fairly certain Don used Stevie's band and backing vocalists (with the exception of Sharon--Mindy and Jana both sang backup for him as memory serves). I just think this is a quick cash grab as we've all been saying before we heard the ticket prices.

[gldstwmn]

My dog takes more entertaining ****s.

Back in 1998 at A Day In The Garden, i'm fairly certain Don used Stevie's band and backing vocalists (with the exception of Sharon--Mindy and Jana both sang backup for him as memory serves). I just think this is a quick cash grab as we've all been saying before we heard the ticket prices.

:nod: But look at the bright side. There will be plenty of tickets for the phone book people. Unless Henley's fans are all five percenters.

[catinthedark]

Hold on.


I just went to the Borgata site, and to the Event Centre. there is no sign of this show. June 30, '05 is Comedy Club. I searched, too, and came up with nothing.

Where did The Legacy get their info? I'm not registered there, so I can't access the info. There's nothing on Pollstar, either.

[glitter_fades]

Back in 1998 at A Day In The Garden, i'm fairly certain Don used Stevie's band and backing vocalists (with the exception of Sharon--Mindy and Jana both sang backup for him as memory serves).

This and a few other things make me wonder if they'll use the same band. :confused:
I can't believe the band wasn't set at the end of last month. Is is yet? :shrug:
Is Henely still touring? Are they waiting for his input? :confused:
For such an expensive ticket this sounds like a fiasco waiting to happen.
If I need a Stevie fix this year, Vegas is starting to look pretty good. :nod:

[glitter_fades]

Hold on.


I just went to the Borgata site, and to the Event Centre. there is no sign of this show. June 30, '05 is Comedy Club. I searched, too, and came up with nothing.

Where did The Legacy get their info? I'm not registered there, so I can't access the info. There's nothing on Pollstar, either.

I'd venture a guess the Legacy info is mistaken. :nod:

[gldstwmn]

Hold on.


I just went to the Borgata site, and to the Event Centre. there is no sign of this show. June 30, '05 is Comedy Club. I searched, too, and came up with nothing.

Where did The Legacy get their info? I'm not registered there, so I can't access the info. There's nothing on Pollstar, either.

She said it was confirmed to her via email.

[Regina]

I usually don't bitch about pricing...I live in NY and prices here are always ridiculous, so I'm kind of immune--but (if it's true) it's disgusting.
Truly, if I had known this, I would not have bought a freaking $175 ticket to see the Eagles this week and would have saved the money to see Stevie and Don.
And, the lovely part is, the really fabulous seats will be given as comps to high rollers.
Blech.

[gldstwmn]

I'd venture a guess the Legacy info is mistaken. :nod:

Let's hope so.

[catinthedark]

She said it was confirmed to her via email.

I wonder from whom. I hope it's not true. Honestly, if the top tix on this tour are going to be $250 US, I'm going to blow the wad and go to Vegas. At least I'll see Stevie solo. I just wish they'd get out some confirmed info about Don and Stevie soon... Oh. As I'm writing this, I'm realizing they likely won't confirm any Don and Stevie until AFTER Vegas, so as not to affect ticket sales (as in, oh, if she's touring later this summer, I'll skip Vegas...)

God, I hate the music/concert industry sometimes.

[MacMan]

I'd venture a guess the Legacy info is mistaken.

Jan at the Legacy said she knows someone in or close to the Henley/Eagles camp - and was notified.... I, in a way hope it's mistaken too... just because it doesn't start the tour off on a positive note with ANYone....

I'm realizing they likely won't confirm any Don and Stevie until AFTER Vegas, so as not to affect ticket sales

I had the same thought... Once May gets closer - or her Vegas shows near sell-out, we'll probably hear more.

If the end of June is the beginning of this joint tour... It should be short. The Eagles have dates booked through August in California beginning on Aug 13th. Don himself has a couple of April solo dates, but nothing beyond that... So basically, May and June are wide open... And July if they are planning on getting this thing under way shortly after Vegas.

But if dates were going to happen at the end of May, you'd think tickets would have been announced already. A month and a half isn't really that much time to sell these venues, no matter the size, if ticket prices are going to be steep.

[xxxmx]

i am a "phonebook fan" but i would never pay that much for tix to a split show, especially when it's being split with a douchebag. :sorry:

i could just vomit knowing that i passed up decent vegas tix online because i was so convinced that we would be better off hitting the summer shows... there's NOTHING on ebay... i'm going to listen to 'space needle' and pick the scabs off my still-wounded heart (never going to let go of the cancelled pittsburgh show! ever!)...

[macfanken]

Jeez, those prices would make Mick Fleetwood himself blush!


Haha!! My favorite post of the day! :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

I don't believe this is true. No one would actually pay that amount and whoever is setting the ticket prices knows that so I'd bet good money this is false information.

[Kelly]

but I am looking at the Entertainment section of my weekend newspaper and Stevie and Don are indeed advertised at the Borgata on June 30 AND July 1st. No prices in the add but the Legacy has the dates, venue and ticket sale dates correct, so I would assume they have the accurate prices as well.
I agree, I didn't think tickets would top $200.00...but it is just common sense. For this to be profitable for BOTH of them, tickets would have to be high.

One thing Stevie apparently does understand is the bottom line. If her true fans decide they don't want to pay a car payment for HALF a Stevie set, maybe she will realize this idea sucked from the get go. I do not see casual fans forking over this kind of dough. If she makes no money, she will definately "get it".

(anyone else reminising about the days of TISL with a full Stevie set for under a hundred bucks?)

[Stephanie]

I just don't understand why the price is so high. I just saw the Eagles last night in AC and it was only $85. Maybe it's the Borgata being so high??

[dissention]

I don't believe this is true. No one would actually pay that amount and whoever is setting the ticket prices knows that so I'd bet good money this is false information.

You honestly believe people wouldn't pay that? Have you checked out the ticket prices of acts such as the Rolling Stones and The Who? Their ticket prices are even higher. People will pay it, don't worry about that, but it won't be anywhere near the sell-out those two farts are expecting. Both of them have been out touring for the last couple of years, not many are going to want to go see them again for twice the price.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Don Henley is playing 2 dates in Florida in April. The most expensive ticket is $69.50. :confused:

I guess that must mean that Stevie and Don have separate bands with these high prices. I thought that Clear Channel was trying to give people more bang for their buck with these double bills.

I am sorry but for $250.00+ Stevie should come around and give everyone a private lap dance. :lol: :o

[xxxmx]

I am sorry but for $250.00+ Stevie should come around and give everyone a private lap dance. :lol: :o

that is so hot... but i wouldn't pay that much for a stevie lap dance, lindsey on the other hand... now that wouldn't just be a car payment, that would be the car and insurance and student loans and credit card and rent and... and i would even slash my red sox budget for that :nod:

[WelshWitchPMD]

that is so hot... but i wouldn't pay that much for a stevie lap dance, lindsey on the other hand... now that wouldn't just be a car payment, that would be the car and insurance and student loans and credit card and rent and... and i would even slash my red sox budget for that :nod:

I was just making a point. I don't really want to see that. :p Red Sox budget? Have you see Fever Pitch, yet? I want to see that.

[GODDESS6]

I was just making a point. I don't really want to see that. :p Red Sox budget? Have you see Fever Pitch, yet? I want to see that.

we r going 2 c it next weekend, i can't wait!!!!~


"go BoSoxs" :xoxo:

[xxxmx]

yes i have seen Fever Pitch and i loooved it. even my non-red-sox-loving girlfriend loved it (because she's loving jimmy fallon). there are a few scenes/convos that she couldn't get the full effect of because she had no clue who bill buckner was or who ted williams was, but for those of us who do know it was even more soxtastic. it was made all the more funny because i definitely dated that fanboy and everything in that movie is sooo true, luckily i was fangirl...

mmm, and after the lindsey-lap-dance visions pass i just might watch the game online (thus inducing varitek-lap-dance visions)...

[WelshWitchPMD]

yes i have seen Fever Pitch and i loooved it. even my non-red-sox-loving girlfriend loved it (because she's loving jimmy fallon). there are a few scenes/convos that she couldn't get the full effect of because she had no clue who bill buckner was or who ted williams was, but for those of us who do know it was even more soxtastic. it was made all the more funny because i definitely dated that fanboy and everything in that movie is sooo true, luckily i was fangirl...

mmm, and after the lindsey-lap-dance visions pass i just might watch the game online (thus inducing varitek-lap-dance visions)...


Not knowing who Bill Buckner is might be a good thing. :laugh: All is forgiven now.

How do you watch the game online? I guess that it is not on TV in your area.

[xxxmx]

How do you watch the game online? I guess that it is not on TV in your area.

MLB.TV or gameday audio - NESN unfortunately is a little out of my price range... luckily i live ten miles from where the hapless D-Rays play, always good seats available and the visiting team's fans usually outnumber the hometeam's.

[estranged4life]

Not knowing who Bill Buckner is might be a good thing. :laugh: All is forgiven now.

How do you watch the game online? I guess that it is not on TV in your area.

try to cover up Billy Boy's great use of the glove in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series...Man, How can ANYONE lose to the Mets??? :lol:

[jwd]

People, instead of getting all bent out of shape and blowing your gaskets, wait first and get some definite information on the prices for these tickets. And even if they are that high for Borgata, I would say they'll be cheaper at other dates on the tour. :shrug: Just some advice, and have a great day! :)

[David]

(anyone else reminising about the days of TISL with a full Stevie set for under a hundred bucks?)How about the days of BD with the one of the longest Stevie sets ever for about $15.00?

[catinthedark]

People, instead of getting all bent out of shape and blowing your gaskets, wait first and get some definite information on the prices for these tickets. And even if they are that high for Borgata, I would say they'll be cheaper at other dates on the tour. :shrug: Just some advice, and have a great day! :)

I don't think there's any gasket-blowing happening here. Just some understandable expressions of disbelief and disappointment. Those prices are ridiculous - I actually find them insulting. I think it's a snub to all the fans who've been there for years and years and years. God knows both Don and Stevie have lost fans through the years; they should be a little more appreciative of the ones like all of us who have hung in, supported them, and loved them for so long.

And by the way, my very first FM concert cost me $17.50. Sigh.

[gldstwmn]

but I am looking at the Entertainment section of my weekend newspaper and Stevie and Don are indeed advertised at the Borgata on June 30 AND July 1st. No prices in the add but the Legacy has the dates, venue and ticket sale dates correct, so I would assume they have the accurate prices as well.
I agree, I didn't think tickets would top $200.00...but it is just common sense. For this to be profitable for BOTH of them, tickets would have to be high.

One thing Stevie apparently does understand is the bottom line. If her true fans decide they don't want to pay a car payment for HALF a Stevie set, maybe she will realize this idea sucked from the get go. I do not see casual fans forking over this kind of dough. If she makes no money, she will definately "get it".

(anyone else reminising about the days of TISL with a full Stevie set for under a hundred bucks?)

Yup on all counts. :nod:

[diamondsnake]

People, instead of getting all bent out of shape and blowing your gaskets, wait first and get some definite information on the prices for these tickets. And even if they are that high for Borgata, I would say they'll be cheaper at other dates on the tour. :shrug: Just some advice, and have a great day! :)
I agree. It is not a proven fact yet and I still don't beleive they would charge that much... I mean, that is three hundred dollars with the ticketmaster fees and tax! That is insane and Stevie and Don, I don't beleive, are popular enough to charge that much. Wouldn't people rather see Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles (for half the price) then Don and Stevie solo for three hundred dollars a pop? If these are the real prices for the whole tour then I will eat my words but right now, I am not going to worry about it because it may not be true...

I'm also not that concerned because I will have just seen Stevie a couple times in Vegas, so if I see any of the Don/Stevie shows (which I will only go to within driving distance) it will just be gravy.

[diamondsnake]

You honestly believe people wouldn't pay that? Have you checked out the ticket prices of acts such as the Rolling Stones and The Who? Their ticket prices are even higher. People will pay it, don't worry about that, but it won't be anywhere near the sell-out those two farts are expecting. Both of them have been out touring for the last couple of years, not many are going to want to go see them again for twice the price.
But don't you agree that it would be better to have cheaper ticket prices and sold out shows, then to have through the roof ticket prices and half empty arenas? This just sounds like a stupid idea to me. If they are having seperate bands and are charging twice as much and going to split the profits, then why not just tour seperately?

[dissention]

But don't you agree that it would be better to have cheaper ticket prices and sold out shows, then to have through the roof ticket prices and half empty arenas?

Of course it would. But as it is, I don't think this will be an arena tour. They're going to play smaller venues and sheds and charge lots because of it.

This just sounds like a stupid idea to me. If they are having seperate bands and are charging twice as much and going to split the profits, then why not just tour seperately?

Because I think they're under the belief that they'll unearth a goldmine.

[Kelly]

Jeez, I agree with ya there. I do believe they think this is the "most Fab of ideas". She and Don...how exciting! :blob2: I am sure someone fed her a bunch of bull about how she is the Queen of Rock and he is the most handsome of lead singers from a rival band and together, well together...can you just imagine?!?! :rolleyes:
I hope this bombs. Badly. :nod:

[Serrart]

Jeez, I agree with ya there. I do believe they think this is the "most Fab of ideas". She and Don...how exciting! :blob2: I am sure someone fed her a bunch of bull about how she is the Queen of Rock and he is the most handsome of lead singers from a rival band and together, well together...can you just imagine?!?! :rolleyes:
I hope this bombs. Badly. :nod:

Don Henley has a sleep-inducing effect on me, but I hope the tour won't bomb and that they'll have fun doing it. :thumbsup:

Romy

[glitter_fades]

Because I think they're under the belief that they'll unearth a goldmine.

I think they're sadly mistaken, but I'm wrong about most things.


.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I guess that must mean that Stevie and Don have separate bands with these high prices. I thought that Clear Channel was trying to give people more bang for their buck with these double bills.



This definetely sounds like something Clear Channel has worked up...but do we not know that AEG/Concerts West is possibly promoting this tour?

Chris

[xxxmx]

if the prices are indeed going to be that steep - i hope the tour not only fails, i hope it chokes and stumbles to the dirt and clearchannel is left destitute (fantasy, ahh)...

i am okay saying that because stevie's going to get her guarantee no matter what. and i honestly think that sucks, there's no reason that she or any artist should be able to haul in the cash while everyone else is ebaying their kidneys. what do you think a fair asking price is for a kidney?

[amber]

if the prices are indeed going to be that steep - i hope the tour not only fails, i hope it chokes and stumbles to the dirt and clearchannel is left destitute (fantasy, ahh)...

i am okay saying that because stevie's going to get her guarantee no matter what. and i honestly think that sucks, there's no reason that she or any artist should be able to haul in the cash while everyone else is ebaying their kidneys. what do you think a fair asking price is for a kidney?
I hope it does respectably enough, but not great - i don't want Stevie to be hurt by this, or her chances for otherwise getting to do what she wants and touring to be reduced because she didn't sell well enough. I want it to sell well enough to be respectable, but under expectations enough for them not to think they (she, really) can get away with diabolical ticket prices like that, in general. :nod:

[macmar71]

I am not going to pay that, either! :mad: I don't care where they play either.

I think that The Mac was about $150.00 for AC. There other shows were about $125.00. I am going to say that the average price for this tour will be abour $175.00 before the TM fees. :rolleyes:

This is going to be one long, boring summer.



Too rich for my blood. I will probably go see a Journey concert this summer and pay $35 to $45. The only person I think I would pay $250.00 to see right now is Mr. Buckingham but I would hope he would be a bit more modest in his solo ticket sales prices.

[strandinthewind]

I think they're sadly mistaken, but I'm wrong about most things.


.

Amen to that (the latter) :laugh:

Seriously, the ticket prices are set by what their analysts think the maket will pay. People though they were insane for SYW - yet people paid those prices :shrug: Will they pay these - who knows. I mean U2 is charging like $175 or so dollars for their tour. So, we shall see. Personally, I think that is too high because there is no record to support. But, again, we shall see if that is the price in all cities.

[sodascouts]

The only person I think I would pay $250.00 to see right now is Mr. Buckingham but I would hope he would be a bit more modest in his solo ticket sales prices.

Thank goodness he will be cheaper. If his tour should ever materialize, I'm gonna see as many shows as is feasible!

[LiquidBlue5000]

Is this old or new news?

The Legacy is reporting......

Stevie and Don will be performing on 6/30/05 at 8pm in the Event Center at The Borgata Hotel in Atlantic City.

Tickets will go on sale 4/30/05 at 10am.

Ticket prices are
$253.50
$203
$153.98

Atlantic City is absolutely the worst place in the world to see a concert.. I've seen Stevie/FM there twice and both times got into some scuffles with people insisting that i "sit down!!!!"... Some guy actually threw an apple at me during "Rhiannon" because i insisted on standing up (no, i'm not kidding) :rolleyes:

~ brian

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Amen to that (the latter) :laugh:

Seriously, the ticket prices are set by what their analysts think the maket will pay. People though they were insane for SYW - yet people paid those prices :shrug: Will they pay these - who knows. I mean U2 is charging like $175 or so dollars for their tour. So, we shall see. Personally, I think that is too high because there is no record to support. But, again, we shall see if that is the price in all cities.


Although aren't the ticket prices also a result of high guarantee demands by the artist? Especially this being a co-headline tour. I'm sure Don and Stevie would be paid relatively the same, although with Don Henley who knows right? I just think this is ridiculous, and I hope these prices end up being incorrect...I thought $125 for Fleetwood Mac was steep, but bearable...but $250 is just not gonna happen from me...

Chris

[strandinthewind]

Too rich for my blood. I will probably go see a Journey concert this summer and pay $35 to $45. The only person I think I would pay $250.00 to see right now is Mr. Buckingham but I would hope he would be a bit more modest in his solo ticket sales prices.

He was not on the SYW tour :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

Thank goodness he will be cheaper. If his tour should ever materialize, I'm gonna see as many shows as is feasible!

Again, he was not cheaper on the SYW tour. He went right along with the higer ticket prices. If he tours alone or with a cmall band, the tickets will be cheaper, but it is a little unfair to compare that smaller tour with a double bill. If La Nicks were alone, it would be about half that or $125, which is still ballsy of her, but there is no reason to think LB would be any cheaper, esp. considering the entourage he brought out with him 15 or so years ago on the financially ill fated but artistically brilliant Cradle tour.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Again, he was not cheaper on the SYW tour. He went right along with the higer ticket prices. If he tours alone or with a cmall band, the tickets will be cheaper, but it is a little unfair to compare that smaller tour with a double bill. If La Nicks were alone, it would be about half that or $125, which is still ballsy of her, but there is no reason to think LB would be any cheaper, esp. considering the entourage he brought out with him 15 or so years ago on the financially ill fated but artistically brilliant Cradle tour.


I guess I've just never seen a double bill, is why I'm so surprised by these prices...For those prices you would expect 2 FULL sets tho, not half sets by each...I was thinking about $150-$175 for the top tix for this tour, that was my early prediction

Chris

[strandinthewind]

I guess I've just never seen a double bill, is why I'm so surprised by these prices...For those prices you would expect 2 FULL sets tho, not half sets by each...I was thinking about $150-$175 for the top tix for this tour, that was my early prediction

Chris

I am right on board with ya. I think these tickets are too expensive for what I think we will get. I will not be paying this price if it is the same old set. I love her, but even I have my limits :laugh: Hopefully, for her and Don, their maketing and money people know what they are doing.

Otherwise, it will be worst than Diana Ross' Supremes "reunion" with no original Supremes. Don't you know Mary Wilson has a copies of the press telling about the failure of that tour and showing Ross in that HORRIBLE wig and every morning, she has the maid bring that in with her breakfast so she can read it again :laugh:

[trackaghost]

What I find weird is Tickemaster has two solo Henley shows listed and the highest price is $65.
I know Stevie's Vegas shows are over $100 but those shows are always expensive (I don't know how much the TISL shows were).
To me it just doesn't add up.
If it was the Eagles and the Mac together, I'd understand it.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

If it was the Eagles and the Mac together, I'd understand it.


EXACTLY..but TISL was $89 at Chastain where I saw her for the top ticket..even that X2 would be $180, which is expensive but MORE reasonable..when you go over the $200 mark i just get offended lol..im sorry

chris

[trackaghost]

EXACTLY..but TISL was $89 at Chastain where I saw her for the top ticket..even that X2 would be $180, which is expensive but MORE reasonable..when you go over the $200 mark i just get offended lol..im sorry

chris

Maybe they don't want the riff raff to attend their shows. They're weeding out those who can't afford Margi Kent clothes LOL

I guess we'll have to wait and see, since the prices aren't confirmed... yet!

It's only $85 to see the Boss on his acoustic tour this summer you know. $59 and less to see Tom Petty (and the Black Crowes)...

[dissention]

If La Nicks were alone, it would be about half that or $125, which is still ballsy of her, but there is no reason to think LB would be any cheaper, esp. considering the entourage he brought out with him 15 or so years ago on the financially ill fated but artistically brilliant Cradle tour.

Are you insane? Of course he'll be cheaper. I wouldn't expect his tickets to push $50 if he goes out on a solo tour. As much it pains me to say it, there's no market for Lindsey Buckingham solo. He'll only make money if he keeps ticket prices very low or else he's going to eat a lot of cash, and the general public won't pay much to see him in the first place.

[dissention]

$59 and less to see Tom Petty (and the Black Crowes)...

Because Tom Petty? Kicks ass. Talk about integrity and respect for fans, he's got both in spades.

[strandinthewind]

Are you insane? Of course he'll be cheaper. I wouldn't expect his tickets to push $50 if he goes out on a solo tour. As much it pains me to say it, there's no market for Lindsey Buckingham solo. He'll only make money if he keeps ticket prices very low or else he's going to eat a lot of cash, and the general public won't pay much to see him in the first place.

I based this on his charging the same as La Nicks (at least according to the sources here) for FM. Thus, he is not above charging what he can based on the draw of the show. But, I agree in that he does not have the mass appeal of La Nicks or Henley, which sucks because he is an immense talent. But, he will charge the most he can get if The Dance and SYW are any indication.

[trackaghost]

Because Tom Petty? Kicks ass. Talk about integrity and respect for fans, he's got both in spades.

I don't like Black Crowes that much but $59 for a double-bill with two well-known acts like that is pretty cheap.
I do love the Petty.

I don't think $85 for a top price ticket to see the Boss is that bad either. It's certainly better than what the Mac was charging on their last tour and he's probably a bigger draw.

[strandinthewind]

Interstingly, I pulled up some of the other artists listed there (Nicks and Henley) were not listed. The other artists seem higher than elsewhere. For example, Bob Dylan is $97.00 - $137 while at The Beacon in NYC he is US $48.50 - US $88.50 - so maybe it is the arena :shrug: and the tickets will be cheaper elsewhere.

[strandinthewind]

Also, Sting is charging $98.00 - $253.50 there and $46 in Champaign, IL and $49.00 - $59.00 in Fairfax, VA.

So, these numbers tend to make the high price of The B. shows not dispositive or even indicative of the other shows. Let's hope Nicks and Henley follow this trend.

[Merf]

As always, I am completely late on this one. I cannot believe how expensive those tickets are. I saw FM at the Borgata and it was NOT that great. :shrug:

Hopefully you are right, Jason, and it's just the venue. I really wanted to see Stevie this summer. But I'll be damned if I'm paying 250 to see her and that douchebag.

[trackaghost]

Also, Sting is charging $98.00 - $253.50 there and $46 in Champaign, IL and $49.00 - $59.00 in Fairfax, VA.

So, these numbers tend to make the high price of The B. shows not dispositive or even indicative of the other shows. Let's hope Nicks and Henley follow this trend.

Yep, it's the venue alright. (although the groovy but far less important Kings Of Leon are only charging $21 for their concert there)

Wow, would anyone pay $253.50 to see Sting? Scary. (sorry I have an intense hatred of the man).

[strandinthewind]

Yep, it's the venue alright. (although the groovy but far less important Kings Of Leon are only charging $21 for their concert there)

Wow, would anyone pay $253.50 to see Sting? Scary. (sorry I have an intense hatred of the man).

The other artists fees range widely. So, who knows. I think I am choosing to stop speculating until we know for sure.

[catinthedark]

Also, Sting is charging $98.00 - $253.50 there and $46 in Champaign, IL and $49.00 - $59.00 in Fairfax, VA.

So, these numbers tend to make the high price of The B. shows not dispositive or even indicative of the other shows. Let's hope Nicks and Henley follow this trend.

This is what I'm banking on, too. I'm hoping the Borgata just jacks up prices because it knows it can pull in the high rollers. I can tell you for free, if they're going to be asking $250+ all over the U-S, they aren't going to get it. I was expecting $150 for top seats again - and even that is a lot. I actually had a dream last night that I met Don Henley ( :eek: ) and we were hanging out and talking all about the tour and the outrageous ticket prices. I can't remember much more about it than him saying they were only going to be touring the western U-S. Nowhere anywhere near Toronto or the northeastern U-S. Dammit! :laugh: When I woke up, I had one of those "did that really happen?" moments... :laugh: :laugh:

[greatdarkwing]

More importantly, when are we getting these flipping tour dates!? :blob2: I want 'em now..... :p

~Alex

[cliffdweller]

Looks like the best route to see Stevie this summer is to make her Vegas shows. Sure you'll be shelling out a lot of money in ticket prices, plane fare, and hotel room costs, but at least you'll be getting to see a full set and a show unlike anything she's ever done before. This is gonna be a once in a lifetime experience and probably worth every penny.

The Henley/Nicks debacle on the other hand, is proving to be a real let down. Only big fans of both will appreciate this tour and shell out that kind of money on tickets. I would love to see Stevie but not for half a set at $200.00!

[LiquidBlue5000]

Looks like the best route to see Stevie this summer is to make her Vegas shows. Sure you'll be shelling out a lot of money in ticket prices, plane fare, and hotel room costs, but at least you'll be getting to see a full set and a show unlike anything she's ever done before. This is gonna be a once in a lifetime experience and probably worth every penny.

The Henley/Nicks debacle on the other hand, is proving to be a real let down. Only big fans of both will appreciate this tour and shell out that kind of money on tickets. I would love to see Stevie but not for half a set at $200.00!

Just because they are both headlining a tour together does not neccessarily mean that they will perform half a set.. Alot of bands nowadays do this sort of thing.. I saw Alanis Morissette last year with Barenaked Ladies... they were both on stage equally for an hour and a half.. that's about the average for a Stevie solo show anyway..

~ brian

[estranged4life]

the Stevie/Henley tour/shows are being played only at Casino's through the summer, Instead of at arena's throughout the US...I have seen similar things happen in the past, So who knows :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

the Stevie/Henley tour/shows are being played only at Casino's through the summer, Instead of at arena's throughout the US...I have seen similar things happen in the past, So who knows :shrug:


That would be interesting and smart of her from a business point of view. A few weeks of that and then she is off of the road. And - there is not saturation of the national market so a national solo tour to promote a new record next Summer would not be effected. I guess we will have to wait and see.

[Hawkeye]

Also, Sting is charging $98.00 - $253.50 there and $46 in Champaign, IL and $49.00 - $59.00 in Fairfax, VA.

So, these numbers tend to make the high price of The B. shows not dispositive or even indicative of the other shows. Let's hope Nicks and Henley follow this trend.

Thats the best news I've heard so far on this this. THANKS Jason. I was getting so down over those prices. I like The Sting comparison the most. I'd be happy with top price being under 150 dollars.

[xxxmx]

Atlantic City is absolutely the worst place in the world to see a concert.. I've seen Stevie/FM there twice and both times got into some scuffles with people insisting that i "sit down!!!!"... Some guy actually threw an apple at me during "Rhiannon" because i insisted on standing up (no, i'm not kidding) :rolleyes:

~ brian

same thing happened to me! we were fourth row on the side and there was no way that i was going to sit for the show. as soon as The Chain and Dreams were over, the people behind us started complaining. they went so far as to pull the staff over and the guy was talking to me, asking what the problem was. i told him how much i paid for my seat :mad: and said that unless it was a policy of the venue, i wasn't paying that much to SIT that close to the stage. he smiled and backed off.

the eediots kept it up but i couldn't really be bothered by them because IKINW was all i could think about. so the lady says 'i paid a lot of money for these seats! you're ruining my view!' i asked her how much she paid and it was actually (sadly) more than i had paid, i informed her to find a better tix broker and then left for the front row.

i looked back a few times with that 'oooh-look-at-me-i'm-three-feet-from-the-stage-what-are-you-gonna-say-about-me-now' glare and noticed that they were standing during Rhiannon. of course i'm a total bitch so i screamed 'oh yeah, you'll stand for the radio hits'...

[amber]

i looked back a few times with that 'oooh-look-at-me-i'm-three-feet-from-the-stage-what-are-you-gonna-say-about-me-now' glare and noticed that they were standing up. of course i'm a total bitch so i screamed 'oh yeah, you'll stand for the radio hits'...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
score, way to go. :nod:

[LiquidBlue5000]

same thing happened to me! we were fourth row on the side and there was no way that i was going to sit for the show. as soon as The Chain and Dreams were over, the people behind us started complaining. they went so far as to pull the staff over and the guy was talking to me, asking what the problem was. i told him how much i paid for my seat :mad: and said that unless it was a policy of the venue, i wasn't paying that much to SIT that close to the stage. he smiled and backed off.

the eediots kept it up but i couldn't really be bothered by them because IKINW was all i could think about. so the lady says 'i paid a lot of money for these seats! you're ruining my view!' i asked her how much she paid and it was actually (sadly) more than i had paid, i informed her to find a better tix broker and then left for the front row.

i looked back a few times with that 'oooh-look-at-me-i'm-three-feet-from-the-stage-what-are-you-gonna-say-about-me-now' glare and noticed that they were standing up. of course i'm a total bitch so i screamed 'oh yeah, you'll stand for the radio hits'...


lol.. good for you... i know Vegas is probably gonna be the same as Atlantic City... never been there before, but i'm guessing it will be the usual "i like to sit and watch a rock concert like i'm watching dinner theatre" crowd... well, they can say and do what they want, but i'm still gonna stand.. ;)

~ brian

[glitter_fades]

I'm wrong about most things.


Amen to that (the latter) :laugh:



That one was just for you. :xoxo:

:wavey:

[glitter_fades]

the financially ill fated but artistically brilliant Cradle tour. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Are you trying to win me over? :lol:

[xxxmx]

lol.. good for you... i know Vegas is probably gonna be the same as Atlantic City... never been there before, but i'm guessing it will be the usual "i like to sit and watch a rock concert like i'm watching dinner theatre" crowd... well, they can say and do what they want, but i'm still gonna stand.. ;)

~ brian
caesar's is probably the only place i would sit. mom always said 'if the seats are nice you sit'... obviously she wasn't talking about stevie though ;) ...

[LiquidBlue5000]

caesar's is probably the only place i would sit. mom always said 'if the seats are nice you sit'... obviously she wasn't talking about stevie though ;) ...

The seats could be gold-plated... i'm still going to stand for the most part :p

[Kelly]

Did I see you mention a solo tour next summer? You must be kidding, right? When exactly is she going to work on this solo album, let alone complete it? Several people pointed out to me that she said she will be touring until the end of the year....that leaves no time to work on the thing. (if she even wants to which I seriously question)

[LiquidBlue5000]

Did I see you mention a solo tour next summer? You must be kidding, right? When exactly is she going to work on this solo album, let alone complete it? Several people pointed out to me that she said she will be touring until the end of the year....that leaves no time to work on the thing. (if she even wants to which I seriously question)

Why does it take her so long to come out with new material?? If she was really dedicated to it, she could have come out with something by this spring.. i thought half of the new album was already written last year? :rolleyes:

~ brian

[diamondsnake]

I saw FM at the Borgata and it was NOT that great. :shrug:


Really? I thought that show was amazing and security was great- they even let people set up tripods to take pictures! Alot of people considered that one of the best shows of the tour so it suprises me that you didn't think it was that great.

[strandinthewind]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Are you trying to win me over? :lol:


Well,m I gotta give SOME sugar to offset the salt :laugh: ;) :wavey:

Plus, I learned my lesson on that one :cool:

[strandinthewind]

Did I see you mention a solo tour next summer? You must be kidding, right? When exactly is she going to work on this solo album, let alone complete it? Several people pointed out to me that she said she will be touring until the end of the year....that leaves no time to work on the thing. (if she even wants to which I seriously question)

I think if she tours for a month or so, she could in theory have a late Summer early Fall tour. But, that remains to be seen. Personally, I do not know if she will ever tour in the Summer again as it seemingly effects her health to play the sheds.

[strandinthewind]

Why does it take her so long to come out with new material?? If she was really dedicated to it, she could have come out with something by this spring.. i thought half of the new album was already written last year? :rolleyes:

~ brian

It might be written, but not produced. AND - I wonder who will produce it. She seems to have difficulty in that dept. :laugh:

[earthdreamer]

I had a dream she played a small venue and me and my sister were sitting in the seat part of the venue and she came out with all her band but all of a sudden there was something wrong and she (Stevie) motioned to my sister that the sound wasn't working, that she needed something to read (and no I am not joking, I didn't understand what was wrong and my sister told explained to me. She handed me a book and told me to take it too Stevie so she could read it (lol) so me *stunned* took the book to Stevie and I asked if I could sit near her while she read and she said yes, so I sat next to her thinking okay this is cool but this is going to be so hella boring!

The End

I knew I had this dream for a reason.. :laugh:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Really? I thought that show was amazing and security was great- they even let people set up tripods to take pictures! Alot of people considered that one of the best shows of the tour so it suprises me that you didn't think it was that great.

It was an amazing show but I think she means we were all a little surprised by the venue itself which IMO, wasn't that stellar. It was very reminiscent of the Hershey show--high stage--chairs on a field sort of thing--except the tickets were much more expensive. For once I was glad to be a few rows back. If not, you'd be straining your next to see the stage from up front. It wasn't my favorite venue at all.

[Nicks Fan]

I agree that these prices are outrageous. I even thought the FM ticket prices were ridiculoysly overpriced but I sucked it up and payed beacause I wanted to see them in case they never tour again. However I was curious as to what anyone of you guys think the ticket prices are worth. IE. What would you charge ? Me 125 tops and 65 for the nosebleed sections.

[dissention]

What would you charge ? Me 125 tops and 65 for the nosebleed sections.

$20. It isn't worth a penny more. And even at that low price, I wouldn't buy a ticket; it's a waste of time since I don't like Don Henely one bit and I'd be bored listening to Stevie sing Dreams, Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, etc. Hearing her sing those songs again would be more of a chore, not something I'd pay cash money for.

[LiquidBlue5000]

It might be written, but not produced. AND - I wonder who will produce it. She seems to have difficulty in that dept. :laugh:

anyone but Sheryl Crow would be ok... John Shanks was great on TISL.. she should work with him again on the next album... assuming there is a next album, of course..

~ brian

[LiquidBlue5000]

$20. It isn't worth a penny more. And even at that low price, I wouldn't buy a ticket; it's a waste of time since I don't like Don Henely one bit and I'd be bored listening to Stevie sing Dreams, Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, etc. Hearing her sing those songs again would be more of a chore, not something I'd pay cash money for.

Doesn't she realize we are sick to death of those songs and want to hear something different?? Doesn't she ever read these message boards?? lol.. she's computer literate now, isn't she?

~ brian

[amber]

Doesn't she realize we are sick to death of those songs and want to hear something different?? Doesn't she ever read these message boards?? lol.. she's computer literate now, isn't she?

~ brian
Maybe she's thinking: "Don't they realize I don't care?" :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. I think she just became computer literate recently.

[xxxmx]

anyone but Sheryl Crow would be ok... John Shanks was great on TISL

i thought that i was alone in thinking that! when i listened to that album for the first time, i could immediately tell which were Crow songs - in a not-so-thrilled kind of way. i looove 'every day' - which apparently no one else loves... i would welcome a j.shanks album. then again, at this point, i would welcome 'stevie by crow' just to have new material ;)

[ShangriLaTroubl]

To me, a fair price,considering it's a double bill would be $125....although I would pay $150-175

Chris

[dissention]

anyone but Sheryl Crow would be ok... John Shanks was great on TISL.. she should work with him again on the next album... assuming there is a next album, of course..

~ brian

John Shanks was crap, imo. He turned out her most overproduced songs yet. I wince listening to Planets; bloody brilliant song with horrific production. I think he made a conscious effort to be as bland and adult contemp as possible.

[trackaghost]

John Shanks was crap, imo. He turned out her most overproduced songs yet. I wince listening to Planets; bloody brilliant song with horrific production. I think he made a conscious effort to be as bland and adult contemp as possible.

While I agree John Shanks isn't all that, you think TISL is more overproduced than TOSOTM? :shocked:

[estranged4life]

While I agree John Shanks isn't all that, you think TISL is more overproduced than TOSOTM? :shocked:

Rupert Hine made TOSTOM sound almost identical, In recording/sonic terms, to another 1989 release he worked upon as producer:

"Presto" by the great Canadian band Rush

What my have worked for Rush (Still my favorite Rush studio album ever!) did not work for Stevie! I have to say TOSOTM is very over-produced (But I still like it...Sounds great blasting thru my car stereo for some odd reason :shrug: )

[catinthedark]

John Shanks was crap, imo. He turned out her most overproduced songs yet. I wince listening to Planets; bloody brilliant song with horrific production. I think he made a conscious effort to be as bland and adult contemp as possible.

Couldn't agree more. I just about can't listen to the TISL version of Planets. Not having heard the brilliance it started out as...

It's strange, isn't it, the choices Stevie has made in terms of producers? We've all heard her demos - most are brilliant exactly as she plucks them out on the piano. And then.... what is it with some of the guys (and girls named Sheryl) who get their hands on them? They turn them into overly-produced, middle-of-the-road, 80s-style (when it's no longer the 80s), well, crap. I've also realized that as much as I love Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and their sound, I don't like Mike Campbell's guitar style or sound on Stevie's stuff (if I'm not mistaken, it's him on My Heart?). I would love to hear a Lindsey-produced Stevie solo album. Although, then, I guess, it'd sort of be a Fleetwood Mac-sounding album. Which would not be a bad thing. :)

[David]

What my have worked for Rush (Still my favorite Rush studio album ever!) did not work for Stevie! I have to say TOSOTM is very over-produced (But I still like it...Sounds great blasting thru my car stereo for some odd reason :shrug: )I dont know what everybody means by "overproduced" but I think Hine & his engineers just didn't record her flat, nasally, somewhat toneless vocals properly. But then neither did LB on the last FM studio project.

In fact I dont think she's been recorded properly since "Nightmare" in '85 solo & "seveon wonders" in '86 FM

[estranged4life]

I dont know what everybody means by "overproduced" but I think Hine & his engineers just didn't record her flat, nasally, somewhat toneless vocals properly. But then neither did LB on the last FM studio project.

In fact I dont think she's been recorded properly since "Nightmare" in '85 solo & "seven wonders" in '86 FM

I'm talking about musically it is over-produced...There's a lot of layering (In some places too much;ie-"Ooh My Love") on the tracks on TOSOTM, Which depending on what type of music you like (I am a more progressive rock/metal fan myself) will give the opinion that this album was musically weak...But back in the late 80's everyone overproduced albums after the effect of the Def Leppard's "Hysteria" that an album can be so over-produced that it fill even more space sonically & yet still be commercially viable and sell (Hysteria may be the most over-produced album sonically, But still a damn great release!)

I'm in the minority, But I think the reason I like TOSOTM so much is that I enjoyed how the vocals were there in the mix...And like ya said "Hine & his engineers just didn't record her flat, nasally, somewhat toneless vocals" I have to agree with ya, I enjoy Stevie's vocals on TOSOTM moreso than probably any other of her solo releases.

If you can find the TOSOTM master reels and compare 'em to the actual vocals released on the studio released version you'll hear that someone lit a fire under Ms.Nicks ass to get the vocals just right....Maybe that was Mr.Hine cause it sure worked with Rush on "Presto"!!!

[Sugar]

Rupert Hine made TOSTOM sound almost identical, In recording/sonic terms, to another 1989 release he worked upon as producer:

"Presto" by the great Canadian band Rush



Just wanted to say I like this album too!

If I could wave my magic wand...

And I can't really speak very well to "production" but I like my Stevie with a bit more piano/guitar and a bit less synth.

[strandinthewind]

Rupert Hine made TOSTOM sound almost identical, In recording/sonic terms, to another 1989 release he worked upon as producer:

"Presto" by the great Canadian band Rush

What my have worked for Rush (Still my favorite Rush studio album ever!) did not work for Stevie! I have to say TOSOTM is very over-produced (But I still like it...Sounds great blasting thru my car stereo for some odd reason :shrug: )

I LOVE Rush - though I like Presto - Moving Pictures remains my fav. amongst their records all of which I real really like :cool: As you know, I love Rush mention!!! :cool:

[strandinthewind]

I dont know what everybody means by "overproduced" but I think Hine & his engineers just didn't record her flat, nasally, somewhat toneless vocals properly. But then neither did LB on the last FM studio project.

In fact I dont think she's been recorded properly since "Nightmare" in '85 solo & "seveon wonders" in '86 FM

I have to say I agree somewhat. I think there have been some incidents of great recorded vocals, but for the most part they are flat to my ears. I think some of that may have to do with her. However, I remember listening to the SYW video sniglets of her singing FM.com and thinking WOW she is really up there. Then, the record comes out and her voice seems dumbed down for want of a better expression. It is not on all recordings, but on most to these ears.

[dissention]

While I agree John Shanks isn't all that, you think TISL is more overproduced than TOSOTM? :shocked:

I think they're equally overproduced, actually. But while the Mirror album has its share of stinker vocals, they're incredibly warm for the most part and that's what works in that album's favor. On TISL, her voice is almost unlistenable at times; I have to be in quite the right mood to enjoy it. They did so much work to her voice that it sounds almost alien; very metallic and, at times, artificial and very cold.

[LiquidBlue5000]

John Shanks was crap, imo. He turned out her most overproduced songs yet. I wince listening to Planets; bloody brilliant song with horrific production. I think he made a conscious effort to be as bland and adult contemp as possible.

See, to me, "Planets" on TISL is one of Stevie's greatest recordings ever.. especially the extended version.. I think it's amazing... same with "Love Is", although you probably like the piano demo much better, i'm guessing ;)

~ brian

[LiquidBlue5000]

i thought that i was alone in thinking that! when i listened to that album for the first time, i could immediately tell which were Crow songs - in a not-so-thrilled kind of way. i looove 'every day' - which apparently no one else loves... i would welcome a j.shanks album. then again, at this point, i would welcome 'stevie by crow' just to have new material ;)

Dear Ms. Crow:

Please stick to producing your own albums... especially if you're going to write a song for Stevie's next album, then decide to record it yourself and put it on your own next album.. just stick to being selfish Ms. Crow, that's what you're good at.. ;)

Love Always, a Stevie fan...

~ Brian

[gldstwmn]

Dear Ms. Crow:

Please stick to producing your own albums... especially if you're going to write a song for Stevie's next album, then decide to record it yourself and put it on your own next album
~ Brian

I see I'm not the only person bothered by that. :laugh:

[dissention]

See, to me, "Planets" on TISL is one of Stevie's greatest recordings ever.. especially the extended version.. I think it's amazing... same with "Love Is", although you probably like the piano demo much better, i'm guessing ;)

~ brian

Not a Love Is fan. That's one of the songs I left off when I burned a copy of it for my car. :laugh:

[dissention]

I see I'm not the only person bothered by that. :laugh:

But both versions are fabulous. :laugh: I have a DVD somewhere of Sheryl and Paltrow singing it live, it's great.

[GypsySorcerer]

Not a Love Is fan. That's one of the songs I left off when I burned a copy of it for my car. :laugh:

Along with Love Changes and TMMS, hopefully. :D

[dissention]

Along with Love Changes and TMMS, hopefully. :D

:nod: And Too Far From Texas and Every Day!

[GypsySorcerer]

:nod: And Too Far From Texas and Every Day!

I don't mind TFFT really. :shocked: Every Day is okay, but nothing spectacular. Shouldn't have been the first single.

[dissention]

I don't mind TFFT really. :shocked: Every Day is okay, but nothing spectacular. Shouldn't have been the first single.

TFFT is so un-Stevie and Maines gets on my nerves quite a bit. She sounds like a hog caller half of the time. Every Day is just blah. Not good, not bad, just blah. :laugh:

[thepoetinmyhear]

TFFT is so un-Stevie and Maines gets on my nerves quite a bit. She sounds like a hog caller half of the time. Every Day is just blah. Not good, not bad, just blah. :laugh:

Hey Diss, besides Sable on Blond, is there anything you like that Stevie has recorded?

[dissention]

Hey Diss, besides Sable on Blond, is there anything you like that Stevie has recorded?

Plenty. ;) But not a whole lot from the past fifteen years.

[LiquidBlue5000]

I don't mind TFFT really. :shocked: Every Day is okay, but nothing spectacular. Shouldn't have been the first single.

"Every Day" is not very Stevie Nicks, imo... It's very "Poppy" sounding.. of course, she didn't write it and that's quite obvious... but she seems to do this with every new record... the first single seems to always be written by someone else and always sounds very pop.. something Stevie is not.. hmm :confused:

~ brian

[GypsySorcerer]

"Every Day" is not very Stevie Nicks, imo... It's very "Poppy" sounding.. of course, she didn't write it and that's quite obvious... but she seems to do this with every new record... the first single seems to always be written by someone else and always sounds very pop.. something Stevie is not.. hmm :confused:

~ brian

That has always been one of my criticisms of her solo career. Let your writing stand on its own.

[amber]

That has always been one of my criticisms of her solo career. Let your writing stand on its own.
But if she always did that, we might not have Stand Back or Edge.... :shrug: and then, of course, I would die... :laugh: DIE!!!!!

[dissention]

But if she always did that, we might not have Stand Back or Edge.... :shrug: and then, of course, I would die... :laugh: DIE!!!!!

She wrote both of those songs. :shrug:

[GateandGarden]

"Every Day" is not very Stevie Nicks, imo... It's very "Poppy" sounding.. of course, she didn't write it and that's quite obvious... but she seems to do this with every new record... the first single seems to always be written by someone else and always sounds very pop.. something Stevie is not.. hmm :confused:

~ brianI don't know. Lots of the material on her Street Angel album sounds poppy to me, and she wrote it. :shrug:

And I've always thought (okay, well, for the past two years that I've been an obsessed fan) that "Every Day" did sound like she could've written it.

[Hawkeye]

Everyday is far from Stevies worst song in fact there's nothign about it that it all that bad at all, but its just so freaking bland and if I had to pick one song I wish she never recorded it would be Everyday, because its just not a Stevie song. As much as a song like Unconditional Love sucks it at least sounds liek Stevie sucking :laugh: while Everyday sounds like she unknown bland woman being bland :laugh: if any of that made any sense.

[GypsySorcerer]

I don't know. Lots of the material on her Street Angel album sounds poppy to me, and she wrote it. :shrug:



A lot of the melodies aren't hers, though.

[GateandGarden]

Everyday is far from Stevies worst song in fact there's nothign about it that it all that bad at all, but its just so freaking bland and if I had to pick one song I wish she never recorded it would be Everyday, because its just not a Stevie song. As much as a song like Unconditional Love sucks it at least sounds liek Stevie sucking :laugh: while Everyday sounds like she unknown bland woman being bland :laugh: if any of that made any sense.To me it's only bland when she sings it live. Then it's clear that she doesn't really care about it, which is tragic to me. And she can't remember the damn words! :mad: :laugh:

Plus, you think "Family Man" is the best song on Tango. I can't trust you. :p :lol:

[GateandGarden]

A lot of the melodies aren't hers, though.Oh. I forgot all about that. That explains some things.

[LiquidBlue5000]

Everyday is far from Stevies worst song in fact there's nothign about it that it all that bad at all, but its just so freaking bland and if I had to pick one song I wish she never recorded it would be Everyday, because its just not a Stevie song. As much as a song like Unconditional Love sucks it at least sounds liek Stevie sucking :laugh: while Everyday sounds like she unknown bland woman being bland :laugh: if any of that made any sense.

NOTHING can ever or will ever be as bad as "Docklands"... ever... ever..

~ brian

[amber]

NOTHING can ever or will ever be as bad as "Docklands"... ever... ever..

~ brian
*ahem*
Desert Angel.
come to think of it, Stevie has to many Angel titles.
I can't wait for Bathroom Angel, Mall Angel, and Grocery Store Angel. :rolleyes:

[LiquidBlue5000]

I don't know. Lots of the material on her Street Angel album sounds poppy to me, and she wrote it. :shrug:

And I've always thought (okay, well, for the past two years that I've been an obsessed fan) that "Every Day" did sound like she could've written it.

I don't know about the "Street Angel" album sounding poppy as a whole... i don't think i could picture "Greta", "Docklands", or "Jane" ever making the radio... The only song on SA that i could actually see making the radio was "Maybe Love".. you know, the single that was written by somebody else.. ;)

~ brian

[Johnny Stew]

I think Stevie purposely chooses a couple of songs by other songwriters for each album that are atypical of the songs she's able to write on her own, in order to add a different shading to the mix.

But in the end, Stevie has pop-rock/radio-friendly tastes, and her albums will always reflect that. So the songs she selects by other writers might be somewhat different from her own writing, but they're never going to be too different.
Anyone holding out for something truly off-the-beaten-path from Stevie's typical style, is going to die of old-age first.

[amber]

I don't know about the "Street Angel" album sounding poppy as a whole... i don't think i could picture "Greta", "Docklands", or "Jane" ever making the radio... The only song on SA that i could actually see making the radio was "Maybe Love".. you know, the single that was written by somebody else.. ;)

~ brian
I say only "Kick It" for the radio. :shrug:

[LiquidBlue5000]

*ahem*
Desert Angel.
come to think of it, Stevie has to many Angel titles.
I can't wait for Bathroom Angel, Mall Angel, and Grocery Store Angel. :rolleyes:

don't forget Atkins Angel...

~ brian

[amber]

don't forget Atkins Angel...

~ brian
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[LiquidBlue5000]

I think Stevie purposely chooses a couple of songs by other songwriters for each album that are atypical of the songs she's able to write on her own, in order to add a different shading to the mix.

But in the end, Stevie has pop-rock/radio-friendly tastes, and her albums will always reflect that. So the songs she selects by other writers might be somewhat different from her own writing, but they're never going to be too different.
Anyone holding out for something truly off-the-beaten-path from Stevie's typical style, is going to die of old-age first.

I always wanted to hear her do more dance-oriented type music... Stevie has the voice to do remixed dance tracks/Vocal trance type-music.. I wonder if anyone has ever approached her to do something like that (ala Bryan Adams with Chicane)

.. anyhoo, i think she uses other songwriters for her albums because she so desperately wants to have a hit single with them.. I think she's aware that her writing style is not very radio-friendly..

~ brian

[GypsySorcerer]

*ahem*
Desert Angel.
come to think of it, Stevie has to many Angel titles.
I can't wait for Bathroom Angel, Mall Angel, and Grocery Store Angel. :rolleyes:

And now "Vegas Angel" :D

[amber]

And now "Vegas Angel" :D

:laugh: :lol: :laugh:

"WellllIIIISAAAAAAAANGGG....InVegassssss.....So IIIIIIIIKNOOOOOOOOOWWWW What Elton feelsliiiiiiiiiiiike"

[sparky]

.. anyhoo, i think she uses other songwriters for her albums because she so desperately wants to have a hit single with them..

~ brian

It would be the record company that wants that. And they are the reason those other writers most often get used. Anyone remember the Timespace cover songs by Bret Michaels and Jon Bon Jovi ? (Love the adorable little guy but that song was swill to the core and don't get me started on that other stinky one) Using those songs wasn't HER choice. The inclusion of Everyday on TISL was clearly a tit for tat deal with Shanks for producing the record. I doubt his fee was within the budget of the record, and I'd bet the mortgage using that song as a single was written into his contract.

[diamondsnake]

I don't know. Lots of the material on her Street Angel album sounds poppy to me, and she wrote it. :shrug:

And I've always thought (okay, well, for the past two years that I've been an obsessed fan) that "Every Day" did sound like she could've written it.
"Don't give me visions to explain" sounds like it's straight from Stevie's lyrics to me.

[diamondsnake]

It would be the record company that wants that. And they are the reason those other writers most often get used. Anyone remember the Timespace cover songs by Bret Michaels and Jon Bon Jovi ? (Love the adorable little guy but that song was swill to the core and don't get me started on that other stinky one) Using those songs wasn't HER choice. The inclusion of Everyday on TISL was clearly a tit for tat deal with Shanks for producing the record. I doubt his fee was within the budget of the record, and I'd bet the mortgage using that song as a single was written into his contract.
I love Sometimes It's A Bitch though... "I've run through rainbows and castles of candy and I've cried a river of tears from the pain" So heartbreaking...

[diamondsnake]

I don't know. Lots of the material on her Street Angel album sounds poppy to me, and she wrote it. :shrug:

And I've always thought (okay, well, for the past two years that I've been an obsessed fan) that "Every Day" did sound like she could've written it.
I think it sounds poppy too. Or at least there are some catchy choruses.

My favorite moment of Street Angel is when she sings "So what is this, what about me? I'm lonely, I'm lonely!!!" during Kick It. That pretty much sums it all up...

[LiquidBlue5000]

I think it sounds poppy too. Or at least there are some catchy choruses.

My favorite moment of Street Angel is when she sings "So what is this, what about me? I'm lonely, I'm lonely!!!" during Kick It. That pretty much sums it all up...

"Kick It" is one of the best songs on SA, indeed..

[sparky]

I love Sometimes It's A Bitch though... "I've run through rainbows and castles of candy and I've cried a river of tears from the pain" So heartbreaking...

Heartbreakingly pedestrian. Lord Have Mercy. Sounds like a friggin nursery rhyme.

[strandinthewind]

Heartbreakingly pedestrian. Lord Have Mercy. Sounds like a friggin nursery rhyme.


I have to agree - AND though I think the song is okay and though I love La Nicks and really like a little BJ ( :cool: ) - I have to say only La Nicks could do that one justice. Again, you can put a candle in a cow pattie and that don't make it a birthday cake :cool: