Don and Stevie confirmed [Archive]

xxxmx

04-05-2005, 08:26 PM

Why aren't you?

can't really say? when i found out that FM were doing the september shows, i nearly choked on a sandwich (in a good way) and that's just not the case...

maybe it's because i know that the tix prices will be outrageous? maybe it's because i know that i'll vomit in my mouth when he mumbles 'dirty laundry'? maybe it's because i know that i'm not going to get (what i consider to be) the full stevie concert experience?

i'll go anyways, i'll go to any/all shows within reasonable driving distance...
i also know that i won't be paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for my seat...

WelshWitchPMD

04-05-2005, 08:37 PM

Q104.3 had a phone call in from Don Henley. He confirmed that he indeed will be on tour with Stevie this summer!

Thanks, for the info. I wonder when we will get dates and venue info. I have a feeling that it won't be a long tour if he is going to be back with The Eagles in August.

WelshWitchPMD

04-05-2005, 08:44 PM

Did Don give out any info about how the shows were going to work? Are they going to do any duets together or something?

GypsySorcerer

04-05-2005, 09:05 PM

I will only attend if they come within comfortable driving distance.

strandinthewind

04-05-2005, 09:11 PM

I will only attend if they come within comfortable driving distance.

I know - but it pretty much guaranteed they will come here to Atlanta as we have a variety of different size arenas and are a major market. But, I have to say, I do not plan to travel for this one. I mean China and Vegas have put a dent in the checking account already :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17

04-05-2005, 09:14 PM

Hrmm....

Come to think about it, this tour might be good for me. There is a HUGE Don/Eagles fan base here. Stevie hasn't been here since the Wild Heart tour. This pairing could work to my advantage...and Krista could drive right on over to hang. :)

PLEASE COME TO WEST VIRGINIA......

greatdarkwing

04-05-2005, 09:15 PM

So from the looks of things, it will probably be a mini-tour, huh? They better hit Florida, although I have a feeling they wont :mad:

~Alex

strandinthewind

04-05-2005, 09:19 PM

So from the looks of things, it will probably be a mini-tour, huh? They better hit Florida, although I have a feeling they wont :mad:

~Alex

Your best shot probably is Atlanta, where you are always welcome!!!!!! - or maybe Biloxi at the Casinos.

WelshWitchPMD

04-05-2005, 09:20 PM

I wish that we had a little more info on this tour before I can decide if I want to see a show or not. I am not going to travel at all for this bill but I still wish that we knew more. I only want to go IF they play Providence but I doubt that. I am NOT going to travel to even Boston to see them.

I like Don Henley but I would rather see The Eagles and after seeing all of those Mac shows I have to say that this bill just seems kind of dull. I am sort of disappointed about this but maybe Stevie will even tour with The Mac. :laugh:

I am kind of wanting to see Joe Walsh solo this summer but I bet that he won't even come close to the east coast. :rolleyes:

Of course it is Lindsey that I want to see solo, too. :blob2:

desertangel

04-05-2005, 09:21 PM

Boy, I really wish we had some INKLING of what her show will be like. Just a TINY clue would do!! :shrug:

First of all, we need another box set release like Enchanted only with more unreleased demos, outtakes, rareities and B sides. Then at the shows she could do a few standards, a lot of ones she hasn't done it a long time and a few never heard before. Sound good? :nod:

I would go to one or two of those kinda shows, even if she doesn't get to be on stage for 2 hours.

Agreed on the Dirty Laundry thing.... GAG!!! (where's the puking green smiley when you need it?)

Laura

GypsySorcerer

04-05-2005, 09:31 PM

diamondsnake

04-05-2005, 09:42 PM

I'm on the same page as everyone else here. I'm having mixed feelings and even if I don't go to one of these shows then the fact that I will have just seen her in Vegas certainly softens the blow. I just think the whole thing sound uncomfortable. During Don's stuff all us Stevie fans will be miserable and during Stevie's stuff all of Don's fans will be in distress! I am confident she will also be doing some solo shows after this little tour with Don. I will go to as many of those as possible.

I am also fairly confident the songs she will be doing in Vegas will be a similar setlist to the songs she will be doing on tour with Don. So, the fact that I am going to Vegas makes me not crave this Don/Stevie tour as much.

catinthedark

04-05-2005, 09:42 PM

You know what? I'll just take anything I can get. I'll be wanting to stick knitting needles in my eyes 'round about the time you all resurface with your Vegas reviews. So if I need to endure a little Don to get a lot of Stevie... I'm so there. My bet is on a mini-tour, too - maybe the month of July (which I've conveniently asked for off from work). The ticket prices will indeed be outrageous, but her touring years are fast fading... I'm not about to miss this...

WelshWitchPMD

04-05-2005, 09:53 PM

Agreed on the Dirty Laundry thing.... GAG!!! (where's the puking green smiley when you need it?)

I love "Dirty Laundry" I remember when it came out, It is that awful "Taking You Home" song that makes me want to GAG! :lol:

diamondsnake

04-05-2005, 09:56 PM

but her touring years are fast fading...

That is a sad thought.

Can everyone stop saying this please! She has shown no signs of slowing down. She has been involved in touring at least every other year since the Dance so why is everyone acting like she is going to be in a nursing home soon? She is just in her mid fifties for crying out loud. And 50 is the new 40, so let's look at it that way! If she was a man no one would be saying this. No one is saying it about Lindsey and just how old are the Rolling Stones anyway? I'm just saying that being in your 50s does not automatically mean that your living on borrowed time.

catinthedark

04-05-2005, 10:52 PM

That is a sad thought.

Can everyone stop saying this please! She has shown no signs of slowing down. She has been involved in touring at least every other year since the Dance so why is everyone acting like she is going to be in a nursing home soon? She is just in her mid fifties for crying out loud. And 50 is the new 40, so let's look at it that way! If she was a man no one would be saying this. No one is saying it about Lindsey and just how old are the Rolling Stones anyway? I'm just saying that being in your 50s does not automatically mean that your living on borrowed time.

Lindsey's touring years are fading fast.

The Rolling Stones' touring years are fading fast.

Get over it.

gldstwmn

04-05-2005, 11:00 PM

Cash grab. :distress:

GateandGarden

04-05-2005, 11:00 PM

can't really say? when i found out that FM were doing the september shows, i nearly choked on a sandwich (in a good way) and that's just not the case...

maybe it's because i know that the tix prices will be outrageous? maybe it's because i know that i'll vomit in my mouth when he mumbles 'dirty laundry'? maybe it's because i know that i'm not going to get (what i consider to be) the full stevie concert experience?

i'll go anyways, i'll go to any/all shows within reasonable driving distance...
i also know that i won't be paying hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for my seat...I think those are all good reasons not to be psyched. :laugh: :nod:

GateandGarden

04-05-2005, 11:03 PM

Cash grab. :distress:Oh, and that one might be a good reason, too. :laugh:

diamondsnake

04-05-2005, 11:23 PM

Lindsey's touring years are fading fast.

The Rolling Stones' touring years are fading fast.

Get over it.
How are her touring years fading when she is touring more then ever these days? And I am not going to get over it. There is nothing to get under. She has not shown any decline in touring, if anything it's the opposite.

GardenStateGirlie

04-05-2005, 11:26 PM

Cash grab. :distress:

:nod: Much like i'm sure Don's decision to allow Lisa Marie Presley to record and release Dirty Laundry as the first single off of her new album was. Dissapointing.

MacMan

04-05-2005, 11:33 PM

How is it Don's decision to let Lisa Marie Presley release the song as a single?

GardenStateGirlie

04-05-2005, 11:43 PM

How is it Don's decision to let Lisa Marie Presley release the song as a single?

I would assume (and of course, I could be wrong) that since it's his song, he probably owns the rights to it and he would have to be given compensation for allowing someone else to re-record his song much like Stevie made a lot of money from The Dixie Chicks version of Landslide. It's a cash grab...much like IMO, this tour will be.

amber

04-05-2005, 11:47 PM

I would assume (and of course, I could be wrong) that since it's his song, he probably owns the rights to it and he would have to be given compensation for allowing someone else to re-record his song much like Stevie made a lot of money from The Dixie Chicks version of Landslide. It's a cash grab...much like IMO, this tour will be.
Man, the riches they will accumulate on this tour will be mind boggling. :rolleyes:
I'm so glad for Stevie-in-Vegas, so I can skip that Don thing, or at least see only one show. :D

desertangel

04-06-2005, 02:26 AM

I am also fairly confident the songs she will be doing in Vegas will be a similar setlist to the songs she will be doing on tour with Don. So, the fact that I am going to Vegas makes me not crave this Don/Stevie tour as much.

That's one of the thoughts that popped in my head and made me decide for the Vegas option. Also, I'm long overdue for a regular vacation, haven't been to Vegas in longer than most of you are old and I missed the 2nd leg of SYW so never got to see Sara live. Vegas seemed a perfect fit. I may still go to a Don/Stevie show and get cheap seats again, or not. I've been a front-row fiend for so many years, the clamoring gets old... I can go to more concerts if I force myself to opt for nosebleeds. :rolleyes:

Peace,
Laura

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-06-2005, 04:02 AM

I'm a big Eagles fan too so I would love to see Stevie and Don tour together. Not that I will in the UK of course

Pip

Kelly

04-06-2005, 06:43 AM

Cash grab is right.

I am hitting one show...and not travelling to do it.

I am curious why you guys think that Stevie will pick up and tour solo after this Don gig ends this summer? I dont see that happening at all..
It appears there other reasons behind this joint venture than the "love of touring". Like it or not. I agree her touring years are fading..I believe she has admitted that when talking about how good the Vegas residency looked to her.

Of course Don had to ok Lisa Marie using his song and he will make money from it. The kids on AI can't chose any song they want...they have to have authorization from the artist who wrote/recorded it before using it. Do you honestly think the Chicks just picked up Landslide and rerecorded it without authorization from the owner?

GypsySorcerer

04-06-2005, 07:18 AM

How are her touring years fading when she is touring more then ever these days?

Because she's trying to make as much money as she can before she calls it quits. She knows she won't be making any money from album sales. :shrug: It's not a big deal; most of the "veteran" artists do this.

MacMan

04-06-2005, 07:58 AM

f course Don had to ok Lisa Marie using his song and he will make money from it. The kids on AI can't chose any song they want...they have to have authorization from the artist who wrote/recorded it before using it. Do you honestly think the Chicks just picked up Landslide and rerecorded it without authorization from the owner?

I think it's actually the publishing company that administers the rights for people or artists to use the material - these are the people they approach when they want to record something - they represent the artist by licensing their music and they keep track of it's use, keeping a portion of the proceeds for themselves of course and paying the artist a royalty. I'm sure Don knew about it, but whether or not he can vito someone using a song, I don't know....

GateandGarden

04-06-2005, 08:43 AM

I am hitting one show...and not travelling to do it. Wait, are the dates and places posted somewhere already? Am I missing that?

cliffdweller

04-06-2005, 08:49 AM

You know what? I'll just take anything I can get. I'll be wanting to stick knitting needles in my eyes 'round about the time you all resurface with your Vegas reviews.

:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:

cliffdweller

04-06-2005, 08:54 AM

Wow. Everyone has such a negative attitude about the Stevie/Don tour. Imo, the Vegas thing is a cash grab all its own.

pwyll

04-06-2005, 09:02 AM

All I know is we BETTER get a dvd from these shows!!!!!!!!

dissention

04-06-2005, 09:03 AM

Man, the riches they will accumulate on this tour will be mind boggling. :rolleyes:

Nah. I predict it will bomb. Not a hot seller by any means.

ShangriLaTroubl

04-06-2005, 09:10 AM

I am curious why you guys think that Stevie will pick up and tour solo after this Don gig ends this summer? I dont see that happening at all..
It appears there other reasons behind this joint venture than the "love of touring". Like it or not. I agree her touring years are fading..I believe she has admitted that when talking about how good the Vegas residency looked to her.

Of course Don had to ok Lisa Marie using his song and he will make money from it. The kids on AI can't chose any song they want...they have to have authorization from the artist who wrote/recorded it before using it. Do you honestly think the Chicks just picked up Landslide and rerecorded it without authorization from the owner?

--Maybe because Stevie said in an interview that she will be doing some form of touring till the end of this year...

And according to the Dixie Chicks when interviewed in 02, were asked if you can "just do someones song without permission" and they said "yeah you can just do it, but we're all friends with Stevie and wanted to ask."

I think all you have to do is get permission from her publishing company or Sony/BMI whatever...

Chris

gldstwmn

04-06-2005, 09:35 AM

I am curious why you guys think that Stevie will pick up and tour solo after this Don gig ends this summer? I dont see that happening at all..

I agree. In fact, I'm apprehensive that we may have already seen the last of the full scale Stevie tours. :sorry:

gldstwmn

04-06-2005, 09:42 AM

Wow. Everyone has such a negative attitude about the Stevie/Don tour. Imo, the Vegas thing is a cash grab all its own.

It is. I'd much rather see Stevie solo in Vegas where she is motivated to put on a really good show than some abbreviated set with Henley.
I think that as long as people know what they're getting with that show, then if they want to go and have a good time, they should.
I don't want to see it.

greatdarkwing

04-06-2005, 10:05 AM

Your best shot probably is Atlanta, where you are always welcome!!!!!! - or maybe Biloxi at the Casinos.

You can bet your Ledgie ass I'll be at one of those shows :laugh:

~Alex

greatdarkwing

04-06-2005, 10:06 AM

I agree. In fact, I'm apprehensive that we may have already seen the last of the full scale Stevie tours. :sorry:

I concur 100%! Which is scary that Im agreeing with you on something 100% :angel: :xoxo:

~Alex

catinthedark

04-06-2005, 10:25 AM

How are her touring years fading when she is touring more then ever these days? And I am not going to get over it. There is nothing to get under. She has not shown any decline in touring, if anything it's the opposite.

Um, because she's in her mid-50s, and time doesn't stand still, my friend. It's not a slag at Stevie, or Lindsey, or the Rolling Stones. They're just plain growing more mature, man, as we all are. Stevie may be doing Vegas, she may well be doing a joint venture with Don, she may well go solo after that and even do another FM album and tour. But do I think there are years and years more that we will be seeing her hitting the stage? No, I don't. I think we'll have this summer, and maaaaaybe a FM tour next summer/fall. So, I, personally, am going to take every opportunity I can to take her in live.

diamondsnake

04-06-2005, 11:02 AM

This just makes me really sad and I hope you're wrong. Maybe I'm living in a fantasy world but I just can't imagine her retiring from the road.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-06-2005, 11:19 AM

Wow. Everyone has such a negative attitude about the Stevie/Don tour. Imo, the Vegas thing is a cash grab all its own.
I'm not negative! I wish I were on the same continent to get to a show! Interestingly virtually all the the UK fans I have spoken to would love to see Stevie and Don do a show together yet alot of the US fans seem pretty negative about it. You guys are just too spoilt! ;)

Pip

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-06-2005, 11:20 AM

--Maybe because Stevie said in an interview that she will be doing some form of touring till the end of this year...

Chris
Stevie says a lot of things that don't happen. Back in 2001 she said (in 2 different interviews) that she would be touring Europe.

GardenStateGirlie

04-06-2005, 11:22 AM

Nah. I predict it will bomb. Not a hot seller by any means.

The promoter will be lucky to recoup what he has put out, IMO.

cliffdweller

04-06-2005, 11:37 AM

I don't want to see it.

Well who does, really? :shrug: :laugh: I guess those of us who won't get to see her in Vegas will have to make do with what we can. :laugh: Oh well, I'll either show up late or early depending on when Stevie goes on. I plan to miss Don's entire set.

dissention

04-06-2005, 11:37 AM

Stevie says a lot of things that don't happen. Back in 2001 she said (in 2 different interviews) that she would be touring Europe.

She gave an interview here in Worchester on the radio in 2001 and she said that she was going to be releasing a book of her art with a firend of hers. My coffee table is missing it, however.

cliffdweller

04-06-2005, 11:42 AM

I'm not negative! I wish I were on the same continent to get to a show! Interestingly virtually all the the UK fans I have spoken to would love to see Stevie and Don do a show together yet alot of the US fans seem pretty negative about it. You guys are just too spoilt! ;)

Pip

I'm sorry you won't be able to see the show! Sounds like you're a fan who would really appreciate it. I'm not a Don Henley fan but I would love to see Stevie this summer no matter what so I hope there are some Texas dates.

dissention

04-06-2005, 11:42 AM

Oh well, I'll either show up late or early depending on when Stevie goes on. I plan to miss Don's entire set.

But how will you know when Stevie is going to be on?! That Stevie likes to mix things up quite a bit, I wouldn't take any chances, sweet girl!

DrummerDeanna

04-06-2005, 11:43 AM

This just makes me really sad and I hope you're wrong. Maybe I'm living in a fantasy world but I just can't imagine her retiring from the road.

You are aware, of course, that one day she will die? Then she most definitely have to retire from the road.

I, for one, would rather have her retire than be all sickly and old on the stage giving half-assed performances...:shrug: She's getting older - it's a fact...and with her past I won't count on her being the healthiest of older people...she's put that body through a lot...

cliffdweller

04-06-2005, 11:43 AM

But how will you know when Stevie is going to be on?! That Stevie likes to mix things up quite a bit, I wouldn't take any chances, sweet girl!

I'm sure we'll hear that info as the time draws near, unless they switch headliners every night...but I don't see that happening.

dissention

04-06-2005, 11:45 AM

You are aware, of course, that one day she will die? Then she most definitely have to retire from the road.

The joy of laughter that just brought me is indescribable, Deanna.

:laugh:

shackin'up

04-06-2005, 11:50 AM

Q104.3 had a phone call in from Don Henley. He confirmed that he indeed will be on tour with Stevie this summer!

puike and barf. what a soul-sell out. moneymoneymoney. i know that it's no problem to earn money. The vegas-thing, i can imagine that she wants to do that for once: make it a huge show, a big popstar egotrip, really pushing it to the limits of good taste, sounds fun! but this is so cheap. well....at least she can stop looking for a drummer.....

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-06-2005, 12:03 PM

I'm sorry you won't be able to see the show! Sounds like you're a fan who would really appreciate it. I'm not a Don Henley fan but I would love to see Stevie this summer no matter what so I hope there are some Texas dates.
Fingers crossed!

My hubby did hint that if there were any East Coast dates it might be 'do-able' but it would depend on when and how much

Pip

DrummerDeanna

04-06-2005, 12:05 PM

The joy of laughter that just brought me is indescribable, Deanna.

:laugh:

I'm glad I was able to bring joy to at least one person today :D

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 12:19 PM

Stevie says a lot of things that don't happen. Back in 2001 she said (in 2 different interviews) that she would be touring Europe.

I still maintain that at the time she said that she meant to do it - but she got sick and had to extend the Amercian leg for make up dates (which included new dates), 9/11 happened, and FM needed her too badly. But, I think she was genuine in her statement that she planned to go. I think it just did not work out - and sadly so IMO.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-06-2005, 01:01 PM

I still maintain that at the time she said that she meant to do it - but she got sick and had to extend the Amercian leg for make up dates (which included new dates), 9/11 happened, and FM needed her too badly. But, I think she was genuine in her statement that she planned to go. I think it just did not work out - and sadly so IMO.
Nope... I don't buy it. She might have wanted it but I don't think it was ever going to happen.

Kelly

04-06-2005, 01:34 PM

--Maybe because Stevie said in an interview that she will be doing some form of touring till the end of this year...

And according to the Dixie Chicks when interviewed in 02, were asked if you can "just do someones song without permission" and they said "yeah you can just do it, but we're all friends with Stevie and wanted to ask."

I think all you have to do is get permission from her publishing company or Sony/BMI whatever...

Chris

Wow..interesting. I just watched those kids on AI discussing their song choices and they said they couldnt do whatever they wanted without the artist authorization. If Stevie owns the copyright on the words, I just don't see how someone can use them without her consent but maybe I am way wrong.

I heard Stevie say she needed a drummer until the end of the year but nothing about "touring" until the end of the year, unless I missed it. I thought the "needing a drummer" could be the Vegas thing too. I heard that was a semi permanent replacement type gig for when Celine and Elton are away. I really cannot see her touring with Don and then embarking on a solo thing but if ya'll see that happening..more power to ya. I would rather have her alone anyway.

glitter_fades

04-06-2005, 01:57 PM

She gave an interview here in Worchester on the radio in 2001 and she said that she was going to be releasing a book of her art with a firend of hers. My coffee table is missing it, however.

I'm still waiting for the Rhiannon movie and kids books she was doing back in the 70's. :laugh: :laugh:

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 02:29 PM

I'm still waiting for the Rhiannon movie and kids books she was doing back in the 70's. :laugh: :laugh:

Didn't she way she worked on that project, but the Hollywood people creeped her out so she stopped. I think that was in Rolling Stone, but I am unsure - though she did say it.

I think La Nicks since The Dance has not really had time to do it and it appears she has no time now either. Maybe one day.

dissention

04-06-2005, 02:46 PM

Didn't she way she worked on that project, but the Hollywood people creeped her out so she stopped. I think that was in Rolling Stone, but I am unsure - though she did say it.

Miss Stevie "I Named A Blanket After A Welsh Witch's Sister and Once Wrote A Song About A Blue Tiffany Lamp" Nicks was creeped out by Hollywood folk? Surely you jest. It must have been the other way around. :laugh:

MacMan

04-06-2005, 02:49 PM

Wow..interesting. I just watched those kids on AI discussing their song choices and they said they couldnt do whatever they wanted without the artist authorization. If Stevie owns the copyright on the words, I just don't see how someone can use them without her consent but maybe I am way wrong.

How it works is as the owner of the song(s) you sign over your copyright to the publisher (bmi, ascap etc), who are responsible for tracking and administering the songs use and paying you your royalties, based on radio play, use in commercials, played in shopping malls... anywhere where there is an audience. The publisher collects the rate - keeps half the proceeds and the other half is given to the artist as royalties. The rate per song on an album used to be 7.5 cents per song, but it's probably around 8 cents per song now, and each time one of your cds is manufactured you are paid that 7-8 cents per song if you are the copyright holder - this is paid to your publisher by the record company... and again they keep half (for tracking and collecting) and you get the other half. Those are some basics.

I'm sure the artist has to give permission along with the publisher, like a partnership.

glitter_fades

04-06-2005, 03:03 PM

I'm sure the artist has to give permission along with the publisher, like a partnership.

I don't think that's entirely true. The copyright holder gets paid when somebody uses a song, but depending on how the publishing rights were obtained, I don't think permission has to be granted by a songwriter for someone to use their song. If a songwriter sells the publishing rights to their work they often lose control of the work. I thought. :shrug:

When MJ bought the Beatles catalog I don't think PM was too pleased that "Revolution" was being used to sell sneakers.
He obviously had no say in the matter.

glitter_fades

04-06-2005, 03:06 PM

Miss Stevie "I Named A Blanket After A Welsh Witch's Sister and Once Wrote A Song About A Blue Tiffany Lamp" Nicks was creeped out by Hollywood folk? :laugh:

Thanks for making coffee come out my nose. LMAO! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I should remember not to drink and read your posts at the same time.

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 03:16 PM

Miss Stevie "I Named A Blanket After A Welsh Witch's Sister and Once Wrote A Song About A Blue Tiffany Lamp" Nicks was creeped out by Hollywood folk? Surely you jest. It must have been the other way around. :laugh:

Wise Ass :laugh:

TwistedGypsy

04-06-2005, 04:02 PM

Well, I for one am just glad to get anything out of the woman whether it be with Don or not. And the whole thing about this being a cash grab well maybe so but Stevie made what 20-30 million last year for singing songs around the world. Hello!!! Can someone sign me up for that??? :cool:
If anyone hasn't noticed most entertaiment is a cash grab.
So even if the majority of us think Don is a prick, I'm not going for him I'm going to support Stevie. And has anyone thought that since Don goes back with the Eagles in August (or September, whichever) that Stevie might tour with him for June and July then come back through without him, since she said she would "need a drummer through the end of the year". But hey if some of you don't want to go, less competion for tickets for the people that want to go. :nod:
Brit

diamondsnake

04-06-2005, 04:39 PM

AliceLover

04-06-2005, 04:43 PM

Don will do his set and then stevie does her set. I really do not like any of Don's music or The Eagles. But hey at least this time at a concert ill get to go for a bathroom break. Maybe ill even get some food this time?

StevieNicksEO17

04-06-2005, 04:57 PM

Not. Cool. At. All.

Now ticket sales will be through the roof and I don't even really care for Don's music... Sad day :(

Kelly

04-06-2005, 05:46 PM

Can someone direct me to the quote or interview where Stevie says she is touring until the end of the year? Perhaps she will tour with Don for June and July, he will go do California with the Eagles in August and then he will team back up with Stevie? Perhaps she means she is doing more Vegas gigs? (I was told she has signed for a semi permanent engagement there by several people, not including the May shows, lastly Caesars when I called about tickets) Perhaps she has some benefits or private shows scheduled throughout the fall where she will need a band? I just do not remember her saying or implying she was touring as a solo act after this Don gig. I would much rather have that cause I cannot stand his music or his stage presense but..I am not buying it completely until I hear it from her. Did I miss this?
As for tickets...you are going to be completing with Eagles fans for these seats and Don's tickets are usually expensive. I doubt there will be more available seats do to the lack of love from 'some' Stevie fans. More difficulty in getting good seats, more money for the seat and less Stevie.

Thanks for the info about publishing rights..it is fascinating. When you say MJ bought the Beatles catalog therefore McCartney lost his rights...did Stevie sell her catalog? Or does she lose some of those rights when she signs publishing over to Sony/BMi as Macman described?
It seems so odd that her intellectual property can just be used ....I remember that guy who has "Let's get ready to rumble" being really ticked and suing someone who tried to use something on a show that was similar. I guess that is different somehow than songs. I would love for someone to explain the part of DR when Lindsey is talking about being paid for the songs. I was left very confused when he said he would only be paid for two or three songs...who decides which songs they are going to pay for?

gldstwmn

04-06-2005, 05:56 PM

I concur 100%! Which is scary that Im agreeing with you on something 100% :angel: :xoxo:

~Alex

:lol: :wavey: :xoxo:

gldstwmn

04-06-2005, 06:06 PM

puike and barf. what a soul-sell out. moneymoneymoney. i know that it's no problem to earn money. The vegas-thing, i can imagine that she wants to do that for once: make it a huge show, a big popstar egotrip, really pushing it to the limits of good taste, sounds fun! but this is so cheap. well....at least she can stop looking for a drummer.....

:lol: :lol: :lol: +100 :thumbsup:

Johnny Stew

04-06-2005, 06:30 PM

puike and barf. what a soul-sell out. moneymoneymoney. i know that it's no problem to earn money. but this is so cheap.She could always go out on the road with Tina Turner!

dissention

04-06-2005, 06:39 PM

She could always go out on the road with Tina Turner!

I'd pay good money to see that. ;) She'd have to be the warm-up, though, because it would be nothing short of anti-climactic and dull for her to perform after the Queen known as Tina.

sparky

04-06-2005, 07:04 PM

Q104.3 had a phone call in from Don Henley. He confirmed that he indeed will be on tour with Stevie this summer!

Ummm..I knew this and posted it over a week ago. Is anyone surprised ?

sparky

04-06-2005, 07:22 PM

Nah. I predict it will bomb. Not a hot seller by any means.

Totally. Last time Don did solo dates he was selling 12-1500 seats a night in venues that held 25-3000. Not exactly a hot seller.

Serrart

04-06-2005, 07:24 PM

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to come to see them this summer (damn work, hope there would be soon another chance ) but the sensation is that Joseph K got a better treatment than Stevie deciding to take part to this tour. The positive (?) effect of this trial is that I feel the urge to listen more Don Henley's music :D . What albums should I get?

Romy

dissention

04-06-2005, 07:26 PM

Totally. Last time Don did solo dates he was selling 12-1500 seats a night in venues that held 25-3000. Not exactly a hot seller.

Because he's like Stevie, he milks the poor cow's tits until they're sore and won't squirt anything else out. "Oversaturating the market" is a phrase those two have never heard.

MacMan

04-06-2005, 07:29 PM

Can someone direct me to the quote or interview where Stevie says she is touring until the end of the year?

She says it in this interview:

Interview Download (http://www.stevie-nicks.info/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=285&Itemid=)

sparky

04-06-2005, 07:30 PM

\Stevie made what 20-30 million last year for singing songs around the world.

Maybe in pesos. That tour last year, if my memory serves me correctly, grossed about 25 million. GROSSED. Minus 10% for management, minus 10% for agents and lawyers. Minus about 30% for operating expenses. That's 12.5 million. Split that by four. She made 3 if she's lucky. Nothing to sneeze at, but it ain't retirement money.

sparky

04-06-2005, 07:31 PM

Because he's like Stevie, he milks the poor cow's tits until they're sore and won't squirt anything else out. "Oversaturating the market" is a phrase those two have never heard.

What an image. Reminds me of a weekend I had once. :shocked:

dissention

04-06-2005, 07:35 PM

What an image. Reminds me of a weekend I had once. :shocked:

I'm not surprised, darling. :laugh:

You going to catch the Geriatric Variety Hour or are you passing this time? I wouldn't go if the tix were free.

jwd

04-06-2005, 08:27 PM

Who knows, maybe they'll just share the stage for three hours. Much the same way Sheryl did with Stevie on TISL. Of course Don would play a larger role. I could see them dueting on a few numbers(DESPERADO!) and each one doing solo sets throughout the show. Stevie could even slip into the backup singer role on a few of Don's numbers and vice versa, of course. If the price isn't too high, I may have to check it out. I never tire of seeing Stevie on stage. And don't forget, YOU'RE NEVER TOO OLD TO ROCK AND ROLL! :]

desertangel

04-06-2005, 08:52 PM

catinthedark

04-06-2005, 09:01 PM

Maybe in pesos. That tour last year, if my memory serves me correctly, grossed about 25 million. GROSSED. Minus 10% for management, minus 10% for agents and lawyers. Minus about 30% for operating expenses. That's 12.5 million. Split that by four. She made 3 if she's lucky. Nothing to sneeze at, but it ain't retirement money.

Yeah, but the royalties from Rumours sure are. This is what I've never quite understood. They are set. All five of them - and the songwriters more than John and Mick. Just on Rumours alone, these five would never have to work again. They've said as much (either Lindsey or Stevie at one point referred to it as "their pension"). Add on the White album, and Tusk, and yes, even their respective solo albums, etc. etc. Well, you get my point. Is it really sheer greed driving them? Seeing Mick do the wine and all the other foolishness, yes, I say, for him it is. I think he has been up front about squandering his money away. But Stevie owns property (I know we've had this debate, but I'm quite sure she owns the house in Phoenix and one in LA. Let's not have this debate again - it's not the point). I don't think she needs another several million. The point I'm trying to make is... I'm not sure I really think she's doing it strictly for the money. Perhaps I wear rose coloured glasses. But she is not young; her body hurts - she has said as much. Going out and singing night after night is not an easy thing - at any age. I think that just maybe she is doing this (performing with Fleetwood Mac, performing with Don) because A) she loves performing, B) she loves Fleetwood Mac, and C) she wants to get out on the road with Don one last time because she knows it will be the last chance they will ever have to do this, and after all these years, it seems the right thing to do. I just don't believe that for someone like Stevie, for whom songwriting and performing has always been a passion, that she would end her career doing it only for the sheer goal of making money. I just don't buy it.

jwd

04-06-2005, 09:01 PM

Oh yea... and End of the Innocense, Heart of the Matter, Sunset Grill and Last Worthless Evening. I could get into that.

I hear ya girl. And I have this vision in my head of Stevie going a little crazy on "Boys Of Summer"! Let's hope they do "share" the stage. I know Stevie made mention that when she "toured" with Sheryl they didn't want to have to worry about who was headlining, so they just came out together. I hope this is what happens with Stevie and Don. It'd be a million times better than each one just doing a solo set.

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 09:17 PM

Yeah, but the royalties from Rumours sure are. This is what I've never quite understood. They are set. All five of them - and the songwriters more than John and Mick. Just on Rumours alone, these five would never have to work again. They've said as much (either Lindsey or Stevie at one point referred to it as "their pension"). Add on the White album, and Tusk, and yes, even their respective solo albums, etc. etc. Well, you get my point. Is it really sheer greed driving them? Seeing Mick do the wine and all the other foolishness, yes, I say, for him it is. I think he has been up front about squandering his money away. But Stevie owns property (I know we've had this debate, but I'm quite sure she owns the house in Phoenix and one in LA. Let's not have this debate again - it's not the point). I don't think she needs another several million. The point I'm trying to make is... I'm not sure I really think she's doing it strictly for the money. Perhaps I wear rose coloured glasses. But she is not young; her body hurts - she has said as much. Going out and singing night after night is not an easy thing - at any age. I think that just maybe she is doing this (performing with Fleetwood Mac, performing with Don) because A) she loves performing, B) she loves Fleetwood Mac, and C) she wants to get out on the road with Don one last time because she knows it will be the last chance they will ever have to do this, and after all these years, it seems the right thing to do. I just don't believe that for someone like Stevie, for whom songwriting and performing has always been a passion, that she would end her career doing it only for the sheer goal of making money. I just don't buy it.

I have to say I agree with you. I mean what person alive does not do things for money - In fact, I know of no one who does not want to get paid the most they can for their work and certainly no one who works for free outside of some one off pro bono thing :shrug: So, I say as long as the demand is there and she enjoys what she does - why not tour even though personally I would like another solo record.

To me, that she can do what she apparently loves to do and get paid for it is a boon :shrug: Also, she loves Henley a great deal and apparently respects his work, which is a considerable volume. I tend to think people (certainly not all) have more of an issue with Henley himself and all of their past - than with the general idea of a double bill. I mean if La Nicks went on the road with Petty, as has been mentioned, I think people would perhaps see this as a better thing.

In the end, I will see the concert if it comes here and do not view this as selling out. and that is my $0.02 for anyone who cares :p

sparky

04-06-2005, 09:20 PM

I'm not surprised, darling. :laugh:

You going to catch the Geriatric Variety Hour or are you passing this time? I wouldn't go if the tix were free.

I'll probably go in LA. I'm sure I can get comps. Won't be going to other cities though.

dissention

04-06-2005, 09:22 PM

To me, that she can do what she apparently loves to do and get paid for it is a boon :shrug: Also, she loves Henley a great deal and apparently respects his work, which is a considerable volume. I tend to think people (certainly not all) have more of an issue with Henley himself and all of their past - than with the general idea of a double bill. I mean if La Nicks went on the road with Petty, as has been mentioned, I think people would perhaps see this as a better thing.

Nah, I just think Henley's music is crap. :laugh: Petty, on the other, is fabulous. Always has been and always will be. And he's someone who doesn't fleece his fans with absolutely ridiculous ticket prices.

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 09:22 PM

I'll probably go in LA. I'm sure I can get comps. Won't be going to other cities though.

That is how I feel about it too. AND - if they play Chastain Park, which I HATE, I will watch it from my friend's roof for free while drinking FAR cheaper beer :woohoo:

Merf

04-06-2005, 09:27 PM

That is how I feel about it too. AND - if they play Chastain Park, which I HATE, I will watch it from my friend's roof for free while drinking FAR cheaper beer :woohoo:

Atlanta? Four Seasons? Um, I am so there! I'm buying the first round, baby!!!! :) :woohoo:

strandinthewind

04-06-2005, 09:29 PM

Atlanta? Four Seasons? Um, I am so there! I'm buying the first round, baby!!!! :) :woohoo:

Lord Child - I am soooo there as well. In fact, I am thinking about moving there :eek: - more on this later!

MacMan

04-06-2005, 09:53 PM

I have to say I agree with you. I mean what person alive does not do things for money - In fact, I know of no one who does not want to get paid the most they can for their work and certainly no one who works for free outside of some one off pro bono thing So, I say as long as the demand is there and she enjoys what she does - why not tour even though personally I would like another solo record.

Well that's pretty much what everyone is taught and brought up to believe that we need to make the most... It's the carrot everyone is after [for the most part].

But frankly... I don't think it always IS about money... I mean the older you get, you realize that money isn't the be all end all and you do get to a certain point where you know what is enough for yourself... She doesn't seem to live too extravagently unless she's supporting her whole damn family, who knows.

I think alot of why she's out there is that's what she does... that's what she's always done, and will continue to do as long as she can. It's probably alot easier at this point in the game to get out on the road and have fun, then to deal with a record company about putting out new material especially when they are so bottom line driven and she's not at the top any longer when it comes to record sales... And I'm sure her ego or what ever insecurities she has demand she be loved... so she get's back out on the road... In front of loving fans...

Now if she's supporting the whole damn family... maybe that's her sole motivation...lol

no_spoken_word

04-06-2005, 10:42 PM

A) she loves performing, B) she loves Fleetwood Mac, and C) she wants to get out on the road with Don one last time because she knows it will be the last chance they will ever have to do this, and after all these years, it seems the right thing to do. I just don't believe that for someone like Stevie, for whom songwriting and performing has always been a passion, that she would end her career doing it only for the sheer goal of making money. I just don't buy it.

I completely agree! Reminds me of what Stevie kept saying at the TISL shows after 9/11, that she was just happy that she could still play live and create music every night and make people happy, er, "better".

Works for me!

gldstwmn

04-06-2005, 11:30 PM

She doesn't seem to live too extravagently

Private jets, five star hotels...The woman doesn't even drive. Are we talking about the same Stevie Nicks?

sparky

04-07-2005, 12:26 AM

Private jets, five star hotels...The woman doesn't even drive. Are we talking about the same Stevie Nicks?

You provided me with a wicked and warm snicker with that one. :xoxo: :wavey:

desertangel

04-07-2005, 02:20 AM

I think that just maybe she is doing this (performing with Fleetwood Mac, performing with Don) because A) she loves performing, B) she loves Fleetwood Mac, and C) she wants to get out on the road with Don one last time because she knows it will be the last chance they will ever have to do this, and after all these years, it seems the right thing to do. I just don't believe that for someone like Stevie, for whom songwriting and performing has always been a passion, that she would end her career doing it only for the sheer goal of making money. I just don't buy it.

Wow... you bring up a good point... and to expound on that... girlfriend seems to be in fence mending mode and has been for the last several years. Maybe Don is a fence that she felt needed a little more mending and what better way for a performing musician to do that than go on tour together? It wasn't that long ago he was at AHI, maybe that's where the idea was hatched. hmmmm... :p

Laura

Kelly

04-07-2005, 05:31 AM

Thanks for the link Macman!

Remember back in the early to mid nineties when Stevie was talking about not being able to get a mortgage with her current financial situation? If the Rumours royalties are like a pension...shouldn't she be able to live on them? During the Dance, she also commented that the money they were making was for "their retirement".
I think much of what Stevie does is for the love of it, but this particular gig this summer is for the money. Just MO

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 06:15 AM

gldstwmn

04-07-2005, 09:10 AM

You provided me with a wicked and warm snicker with that one. :xoxo: :wavey:

Happy to be of service. :laugh: :wavey:

MacMan

04-07-2005, 09:22 AM

Private jets, five star hotels

When out on the road sure... Or on holiday she may stay in a 5 star... But I highly doubt that she flys a private jet everytime she flys...

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 09:55 AM

When out on the road sure... Or on holiday she may stay in a 5 star... But I highly doubt that she flys a private jet everytime she flys...

I think with the advent of net jets and the sort she probably does. But, she may fly commercial. Also, she could have use of the Warner planes :shrug:

Interestingly, though all the jets and suites appear extravagant, to someone with her income, it is probably not that huge of an expense. I mean if she makes 6 million a year, that is 100 times a person making $60,000 a year and 50 times that if she makes only 3 million a year. So, in an economy of scale, that is not that huge of a financial burden, etc.

sodascouts

04-07-2005, 10:10 AM

Well, seems I'm in the minority but I find this preferable to "no Stevie." Also, I actually like many of Don's songs. I watched AHI 2000 just the other day (thanks glitter_fades!) and I was just appreciating that they do sound good together. :shrug:

Gypsy-Rhiannon

04-07-2005, 10:13 AM

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 10:16 AM

. . . I watched AHI 2000 just the other day (thanks glitter_fades!) and I was just appreciating that they do sound good
together. :shrug:

AHEM - please please please post it on your site if possible :cool:

greatdarkwing

04-07-2005, 10:46 AM

dissention

04-07-2005, 10:51 AM

Didn't she say her mom said that she would not qualify for a mortgage?

Interestingly, I wonder if she was joking or was just thinking about a $20 million house :laugh:

Good point though.

Interestingly, that little tidbit is from the Vox magazine article that no Stevie fan wants to admit was a real interview. :rolleyes:

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 10:53 AM

Interestingly, that little tidbit is from the Vox magazine article that no Stevie fan wants to admit was a real interview. :rolleyes:

Do you have it and if so please post it. It has been too long since I read it. But, the quote appeared in other publications if memory serves me correctly.

dissention

04-07-2005, 11:22 AM

Do you have it and if so please post it. It has been too long since I read it. But, the quote appeared in other publications if memory serves me correctly.

Oy, somewhere. I have an original copy but I've no idea where. I can look for it later, though. Sara transcribed it awhile back and posted on BN.net and that's when all hell broke loose and the crazies said that the whole interview was made up and that she never gave it. :rolleyes: It's the one where she mentions abortions and all those other controversial things.

Rickypt

04-07-2005, 11:36 AM

Hi,

I think Stevie is doing this tour because she loves to perform, probably has been itching to do some solo performing and not have Lindsey jumping all over her and getting her black dress all gross, and knows that she is getting older and who knows how much longer she can endure a tour.

The joint tour makes sense. It is how things are done these days. They put bands together to increase the chances of selling lots of tickets. Stevie and Don are a good match. Their music likely appeals to many of the same people, and they have duets from the past that they can perform together. At least it's not a stupid match like Def Leppard and Bryan Adams or whatever the pairing is.

I see it as another gift from Stevie. Of course I'd love to have a club or small theater tour, but I've come to accept that is not going to happen. Business is business.

All that said, I won't be going to any of the shows. The LV show scratches my Stevie itch. But the tour allows those who aren't able to get to Vegas a chance to enjoy her this summer. It's not perfect, but it sure beats a retired Stephanie Nicks.

The Tower

04-07-2005, 12:20 PM

I like Don Henley, but he should really stop all this touring and actually release an album. However, I don't think I'll be going to this outing- if it actually happens at all.

Reasons:

I don't think either Don or Stevie will get more than 75 minutes tops for each of their sets. Which to me equals.....

"Dreams"
{costume change}
"Rhiannon"
{costume change}
"Gold Dust Woman"
{costume change}
"Leather and Lace" - dedicated to Don Henley
{band intros}
{costume change}
{10 minute percussion/drum orgy intro}
"Stand Back"
{costume change}
{10 minute Waddy guitar intro}
"Edge of Seventeen" with no fan greeting
{costume change}
"Has Anyone Ever Written..."

All for the low, low price of $150.00 a ticket! :rolleyes:

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 12:24 PM

Oy, somewhere. I have an original copy but I've no idea where. I can look for it later, though. Sara transcribed it awhile back and posted on BN.net and that's when all hell broke loose and the crazies said that the whole interview was made up and that she never gave it. :rolleyes: It's the one where she mentions abortions and all those other controversial things.

Oh Lord - not that one :laugh:

Acutally, I remember seeing video footage of her talking about the mortgage thing.

dissention

04-07-2005, 12:48 PM

"Edge of Seventeen" with no fan greeting

I think the days of the fan greeting are over. She got sick as a dog during TISL and stayed away from the fans on the last tour, it wouldn't be smart to keep it up.

Cour

04-07-2005, 02:02 PM

Didn't she say her mom said that she would not qualify for a mortgage?

Blue Letter Article (http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=781&c=11)

USA Today, August 16, 1994

Nicks Shedding Gypsy Ways
by Shawn Sell

COLUMBIA, Md. - Like a 70’s flashback, Stevie Nicks is on stage again.

But behind her dated Dickensian, style - she loves those platform boots and fringed shawls so much she grocery shops in them - is a 46-year-old woman making some 90’s changes.

Such as taking a bus on her current Street Angel tour instead of a private jet. "It's cost-cutting," admits rock'n'roll's gypsy princess. "A difference between $700 a day or $5,000 a day."

She stopped smoking "December 12" she says, and her voice has never been in better shape.

And she left her rented home outside L.A. after the last big quake. "I found a house I really want, a very special house in Phoenix," confides the former Fleetwood Mac lead singer. "But my mom says I have to pare down - she says right now I couldn't even qualify for the mortgage."

snip

skcin

04-07-2005, 02:07 PM

Love how she says she can't even handle a dog right now. Lots has changed in 10 years, huh? :laugh:

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 02:08 PM

Blue Letter Article (http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=781&c=11)

USA Today, August 16, 1994

Nicks Shedding Gypsy Ways
by Shawn Sell

COLUMBIA, Md. - Like a 70’s flashback, Stevie Nicks is on stage again.

But behind her dated Dickensian, style - she loves those platform boots and fringed shawls so much she grocery shops in them - is a 46-year-old woman making some 90’s changes.

Such as taking a bus on her current Street Angel tour instead of a private jet. "It's cost-cutting," admits rock'n'roll's gypsy princess. "A difference between $700 a day or $5,000 a day."

She stopped smoking "December 12" she says, and her voice has never been in better shape.

And she left her rented home outside L.A. after the last big quake. "I found a house I really want, a very special house in Phoenix," confides the former Fleetwood Mac lead singer. "But my mom says I have to pare down - she says right now I couldn't even qualify for the mortgage."

snip

THANKS!!!!!!!! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

ShangriLaTroubl

04-07-2005, 04:16 PM

Well I would be VERY surprised if there was no fan greeting on the tour...She never really greets the fans on Fleetwood Mac tours, she didnt get down to the audience on the Dance tour either...keeps it as a solo thing...so, being tradition and all if she CAN at all she would need to get down there..cuz ppl will be expecting it, and a wave just wont do justice lol...

Also to add I'm sure Stevie DOES take a private jet wherever she goes...Like Strand said with a person of her income it's not that much of an expense...she should actually consider buying one...my aunt has a small learjet (15 passengers or so) and doesnt make quite as much as Stevie...
Just seems like it would be cheaper to own a small one or something..
I really cannot see Stevie going to the airport, going through security, getting on the plane, waiting for her luggage at baggage..lol just doesnt seem possible

Chris

no_spoken_word

04-07-2005, 06:16 PM

Also to add I'm sure Stevie DOES take a private jet wherever she goes...Like Strand said with a person of her income it's not that much of an expense...she should actually consider buying one...my aunt has a small learjet (15 passengers or so) and doesnt make quite as much as Stevie...
Just seems like it would be cheaper to own a small one or something..
I really cannot see Stevie going to the airport, going through security, getting on the plane, waiting for her luggage at baggage..lol just doesnt seem possible

In a later entry in Stevie's 9/11 journal at the Nicksfix she talks about flying to New York and back a few times, her first time flying commercial since the attacks. I think she only rents out a jet for her tours, when she needs to fly out of the city right after the gig, the "midnight plane".

strandinthewind

04-07-2005, 07:20 PM

. . . I really cannot see Stevie going to the airport, going through security, getting on the plane, waiting for her luggage at baggage..lol just doesnt seem possible

Chris

LOL - I cannot either. But and having said that, I have seen many celebs in the Atlanta Customs barn at Hartsfield. One time her highness Dolly Parton was standing in front of me. I mean DIRECTLY in front of me with her husband. She was dolled up to the nines and just chattin' away with people. I LOVE her.

dissention

04-07-2005, 07:54 PM

LOL - I cannot either. But and having said that, I have seen many celebs in the Atlanta Customs barn at Hartsfield. One time her highness Dolly Parton was standing in front of me. I mean DIRECTLY in front of me with her husband. She was dolled up to the nines and just chattin' away with people. I LOVE her.

I ****ing LOVE Dolly Parton. :woohoo:

If I could meet any celebrity, it would be her. She's such a sweet girl with a huge personality. Oh, I adore her. Remember when Vanity Fair wanted to use her for a cover story on natural beauties and she sent them a letter saying "Honey, you think I look like this naturally?" :laugh: