March MACness FINAL FOUR

[rezamatic]

We are left with four out of sixty four. Here are your results...


Go Your Own Way defeats Gold Dust Woman (21-13)
The Chain defeats Second Hand News (26-8)
Storms defeats Sisters of the Moon (22-12)
Sara defeats Angel (23-11)



It is now time to eliminate two more songs, leaving us with our championship round. Please post your two choices between these match-ups...

GO YOUR OWN WAY vs. THE CHAIN

STORMS vs. SARA


And check out the tournament breakdown HERE (http://home.comcast.net/~chrisresnick/TOURNEY_FMAC.bmp)

[amber]

The Chain
Storms

[dissention]

Go Your Own Way

Storms

[ontheEdgeof17]

Tha Chainz

Stormizzle

[HomerMcvie]

Go Your Own Way
Sara

[DrummerDeanna]

The Chain

Storms

[amber]

Tha Chainz

Stormizzle
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[TheBlueLamp]

The Chain

Sara

[wondergirl9847]

GYOW
Storms

[rezamatic]

Go Your Own Way

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Sara

[Dark Angel]

Go Your Own Way
Storms

[mondaymornin1]

Go Your Own Way

Sara

[LindseysCowgirl]

Go Your Own Way

Storms

[GypsySorcerer]

Go Your Own Way
Storms

[AliceLover]

Chain

Sara










Jimmy

[AliP]

GYOW
Storms

[The Tower]

The Chain

Storms

[WildInTheWind]

The Chain

Storms

[shackin'up]

Go Your Own Way

Storms

[ChrystalGypsey]

THE CHAIN
SARA (that was hard!!!)

[sodascouts]

The Chain

Sara

[Hawkeye]

The Chain

Storms

[Dreammms]

The Chain

Sara

[xxxmx]

GYOW

SARA <= now i love storms, really i do, but just hearing those first few notes of sara can make my entire situation fabulous...

[jwd]

GO YOUR OWN WAY vs. THE CHAINGO YOUR OWN WAY

STORMS vs. SARASARA

[Sugar]

GYOW

Storms

[SteveMacD]

Go Your Own Way (C'mon, "The Chain" is a great song, but GYOW is perhaps their most enduring hits ever. It's the only Mac song that is typically listed on those "greatest rock songs ever" lists magazines periodically release. GYOW is the caliber of song that got them into the Hall of Fame. "The Chain," at best, is a fan favorite, but that's about it.)

Sara (Easy call on this one. "Storms" is a nice, mellow song that really goes nowhere. "Sara" just has a lot of sonic and lyrical intrigue. I personally love how this song has so many peaks and valleys. And, Mick's drumming is absolutely breath-taking.)

[amber]

Go Your Own Way (C'mon, "The Chain" is a great song, but GYOW is perhaps their most enduring hits ever. It's the only Mac song that is typically listed on those "greatest rock songs ever" lists magazines periodically release. GYOW is the caliber of song that got them into the Hall of Fame. "The Chain," at best, is a fan favorite, but that's about it.)

Sara (Easy call on this one. "Storms" is a nice, mellow song that really goes nowhere. "Sara" just has a lot of sonic and lyrical intrigue. I personally love how this song has so many peaks and valleys. And, Mick's drumming is absolutely breath-taking.)
Noway, dude, Chain is musically a breathtaking masterpiece. And it involves everyone. Although I love GYOW tons, Chain is the pentultimate!
Also, Sara sucks compared to storms, but of course that is subjective. :laugh:

[Nixxxed]

The Chain
Sara

[SteveMacD]

Noway, dude, Chain is musically a breathtaking masterpiece. And it involves everyone. Although I love GYOW tons, Chain is the pentultimate!
Also, Sara sucks compared to storms, but of course that is subjective. :laugh:

Are you serious?!? People weren't buy "Rumours" for "The Chain." They were buy it for "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "Go Your Own Way," and "You Make Loving Fun." Maybe for "Gold Dust Woman" and "Second Hand News," too. But certainly not for "The Chain." As I said, it's a fan favorite at best. As a fan, I'll admit it's one of my favorites, but it's not even in the same ball park as GYOW.

And, the same could be said for "Sara." Again, people weren't buying "Tusk" for "Storms." Frankly, "Storms" is one of the dullest Mac songs ever, IMO. It does absolutely nothing for me. And, they've never, to my knowledge, ever done this song live. "Sara" is a classic. "Storms" isn't.

[amber]

Are you serious?!? People weren't buy "Rumours" for "The Chain." They were buy it for "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "Go Your Own Way," and "You Make Loving Fun." Maybe for "Gold Dust Woman" and "Second Hand News," too. But certainly not for "The Chain." As I said, it's a fan favorite at best. As a fan, I'll admit it's one of my favorites, but it's not even in the same ball park as GYOW.

And, the same could be said for "Sara." Again, people weren't buying "Tusk" for "Storms." Frankly, "Storms" is one of the dullest Mac songs ever, IMO. It does absolutely nothing for me. And, they've never, to my knowledge, ever done this song live. "Sara" is a classic. "Storms" isn't.
Sara is a classic, doesn't make it the best.
And I disagree about The Chain. But even if it were true, it doesn't make GYOW better than the Chain. And I think it OWNS the ballpark, and GYOW is the pitcher. Important, but nothing without the team. hehehehehe. Bad analogy. The Chain is like the shortstop, it runs the whole field, and makes spectacular double plays. :cool: :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

The Chain
Sara

[diamondsnake]

Are you serious?!? People weren't buy "Rumours" for "The Chain." They were buy it for "Dreams," "Don't Stop," "Go Your Own Way," and "You Make Loving Fun." Maybe for "Gold Dust Woman" and "Second Hand News," too. But certainly not for "The Chain." As I said, it's a fan favorite at best. As a fan, I'll admit it's one of my favorites, but it's not even in the same ball park as GYOW.

And, the same could be said for "Sara." Again, people weren't buying "Tusk" for "Storms." Frankly, "Storms" is one of the dullest Mac songs ever, IMO. It does absolutely nothing for me. And, they've never, to my knowledge, ever done this song live. "Sara" is a classic. "Storms" isn't.
Storms musically may be a tad dull but the lyrics are haunting.

[dissention]

Sara is a classic, doesn't make it the best.
And I disagree about The Chain. But even if it were true, it doesn't make GYOW better than the Chain. And I think it OWNS the ballpark, and GYOW is the pitcher. Important, but nothing without the team. hehehehehe. Bad analogy. The Chain is like the shortstop, it runs the whole field, and makes spectacular double plays. :cool: :laugh:

I don't give two squirts of duck **** what anyone says, Sara isn't that good of a song. It goes nowhere, the lyrics drive me a bit bonkers at times, and I always skip it. It just boring and blah.

I love The Chain but I don't think it touches GYOW. GYOW is one of their masterpieces, The Chain is one of their good album tracks. Just my opinion.

[Hawkeye]

Go Your Own Way (C'mon, "The Chain" is a great song, but GYOW is perhaps their most enduring hits ever. It's the only Mac song that is typically listed on those "greatest rock songs ever" lists magazines periodically release. GYOW is the caliber of song that got them into the Hall of Fame. "The Chain," at best, is a fan favorite, but that's about it.)

Sara (Easy call on this one. "Storms" is a nice, mellow song that really goes nowhere. "Sara" just has a lot of sonic and lyrical intrigue. I personally love how this song has so many peaks and valleys. And, Mick's drumming is absolutely breath-taking.)

The Chain at least in my area gets more airplay then GYOW and is usually rated higher in our anual top 500 songs. I think it's quite the draw for people buying rumours and is MUCH more then a fan favorite. although I will agree GYOW IS their biggest song, but really it means noithing here. And Storms is just 100 times better then Sara, except for maybe the cleaning lady version which is SO much better then the regular version.

[amber]

I don't give two squirts of duck **** what anyone says, Sara isn't that good of a song. It goes nowhere, the lyrics drive me a bit bonkers at times, and I always skip it. It just boring and blah.

I love The Chain but I don't think it touches GYOW. GYOW is one of their masterpieces, The Chain is one of their good album tracks. Just my opinion.
Whoa, sesly, about Chain?! Gaw, I think it's just the most. The intervals, with every instrument being highlighted, the fact that everyone's harmonic voice is in play... the drama of it. And I love SPACE in a song, and the Chain makes great use of space.
DGMW, I think GYOW is spectacular, but it doesn't include everyone, much. I remember being fascinated by the sounds of the chain, when i first got involved. I love how it's so...VARIED. but, I can say most of the same things about GYOW - only most, b/c I just think it's not as varied. And doesn't have as many harmonies. ok.
About Sara, of course, I agree. Though I think it's fairly pretty, it's just not dynamic enough for me. Storms isn't very dynamic, instrumentally, either, but the words and phrasing are very deep and great. :) very deep. hee.

[Johnny Stew]

The Chain

Sara

[Mari]

Go Your Own Way
Storms

(These are strategic votes :p) (Found back my morals)

[shackin'up]

Go Your Own Way
Storms

(These are strategic votes :p) (Found back my morals)

feeling guilty huh? :p

[DownOnRodeo]

The Chain
Sara

My two favourites anyway!

[shackin'up]

I love "Go Your Own Way," but this is a competition for the best FLEETWOOD MAC song. I feel that "GYOW" cannot compete with "The Chain" in that context. "The Chain" is harrowing, anguish and pain and anger personified in 4-odd minutes of music. The imagery and depth of "The Chain" is wonderful, in all its darkness. "The Chain" is also instrumentally fantastic, containing contributions from all members of the band; their respective instruments (Stevie's voice counting as one) weave together creating haunting results. "The Chain" is a group effort, written by five members and performed by five members, while "GYOW" is more of a Lindsey effort though it is excellent as well.

Storms" is one of Fleetwood Mac's finest moments and truly one of the best songs I have ever heard. However, when up against "Sara," I have to choose "Sara." The song represents everything I associate with Rumours-era Fleetwood Mac: breathtaking harmonies; that amazing rhythm section at work; sterling instrumental playing; amazing and detailed production; personal and introspective songwriting; expressive vocals. One could argue that "Storms" nails all of those criterion, and they would be very right. "Sara" has a more cohesive group sound, more layers and textures, and more sonic depth than "Storms" does as a song (in my opinion, of course). Both are heartbreaking, stunningly beautiful tracks. "Sara" just has these expanses, these vistas of sound and emotion that all add up to perfection. While "Storms" is also perfection, I find "Sara" to be so epic and Fleetwood-Mac sounding that it cannot be beat.

Impressive weighing of the qualities! But as you say yourself: when you look at purity and straight-from the guts-criteria (which are my priorities) the other two songs win!

Or in other terms: Chain and Sara are more like movies. GYOW and Storms are built up on canvas. :p :laugh:

[shackin'up]

The Chain
Sara

My two favourites anyway!

JOE! my man! How is it possible that we disagree here!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Vianna]

The Chain
Storms

[dissention]

Go Your Own Way
Storms

(These are strategic votes :p) (Found back my morals)

Welcome back. ;)

[ryan8472]

The Chain

Storms

What a ****ty outcome for this tournement. :lol:

[golddustwoman77]

The Chain

Storms

[face of glass]

"The Chain"

"Sara"


"Storms" has always been a song that I find overrated by other fans. Good, yes, but not among the cream of the cream that this band has put out.

[sodascouts]

I find the The Chain FAR outrocks GYOW, which is great but gets old after a while. I never tire of listening to the Chain. That gutair solo, led up to by the bass part - it gets me every time. And I couldn't care less what people bought Rumours for thirty years ago.

I would have to agree that Storms is overrated. It drags.

I'm rooting for the Chain to take the top spot.

[Nightbird_Brett]

The Chain
Sara

[rezamatic]

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I Will Have The Final Two In A Few Moments, Get Any Last Minute Votes In To Have Em Counted!
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[rezamatic]

Okay No More Votes, Please. Tallying Is Finished, And It's A Close One, So I'm Closing Off The Voting Period!

[rezamatic]

HOLY crap, this was close. If you actually go in and tally em up, you'll find it quite exciting. I had to recount.... So HERE WE GO...



THE CHAIN defeats GO YOUR OWN WAY, 21-16
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and...the other finalist by ONE VOTE...
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SARA defeats STORMS, 19-18

If you didn't vote, hope you aren't a big fan of Storms...


We are left with the finals, the championship, the main event, the grand daddy, the winner-takes-all brawl-for-it-all no-holds-barred remember-when-Christine-was-in-this-tournament? FINAL MATCH-UP!!! PICK YOUR CHAMPION!



THE CHAIN vs. SARA



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AND CHECK OUT THE TOURNAMENT IN ITS ENTIRETY HERE...
http://home.comcast.net/~chrisresnick/TOURNEY_FMAC.bmp
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[ChrystalGypsey]

THE CHAIN

This was tough...I love Sara, but the overall theme of The Chain rings stronger...

[dissention]

The Chain

I hate Sara.

[wondergirl9847]

I'm So Afraid!!!!

It's not a finalist...well, screw this. :mad:

LOL

The Chain.

[rezamatic]

THE CHAIN


Incidentally, I thought the finals would be Chain/Storms from when I booked this thing. Sara's a shocker to me, though, didn't think it'd make final four. At least I was halfway on target!

[HomerMcvie]

The Chain
"message too short"

[WildInTheWind]

Hard one.....well, I will go with what song I get more excited over when I hear on the radio, so...

Sara.

[Mari]

The Chain.

. . . . .

[mondaymornin1]

Well ****.

I'll go with THE CHAIN

Tried to strategize...thought if GYOW actually made it this far, it could beat Sara, so I voted for GYOW and Sara in the last round. Sorry "Storms" people... :sorry: Shoulda known GYOW wouldn't get here, and Storms should be in the finals....I woulda picked it over The Chain.

[xxxmx]

one more vote for SARA...

i love the chain, it's quite fitting that it's made it this far (and will most likely win) seeing that it's the only song written by all of them blah blah...

[amber]

The Chain
"doo, doo doodoodoodoodoodoodoodoodoo"

[Johnny Stew]

She'll never win, but I have to vote from my heart here. So even though I love "The Chain" to pieces, I have to go with "Sara." Which is, to my ears, the most sumptuous six and a half minutes of music ever committed to tape.

It glistens and gurgles like a riverstream flowing over polished stones, and I can completely and easily lose myself in its beauty. :nod:

"All I ever wanted, was to know that you were dreaming...."

[mondaymornin1]

It glistens and gurgles like a riverstream flowing over polished stones, and I can completely and easily lose myself in its beauty. :nod:




*throws up*


;) ;) ;)
Just kiddin! I really do like the song in general...but I don't put it at the top of my list. My daughter can actually sing a mean karoake "Sara." :thumbsup:

[LindseysCowgirl]

The Chain
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[dissention]

*throws up*

:laugh:

You said it, not me. Though "gurgle" is one apt way to describe her voice at times.

[Nixxxed]

She'll never win, but I have to vote from my heart here. So even though I love "The Chain" to pieces, I have to go with "Sara." Which is, to my ears, the most sumptuous six and a half minutes of music ever committed to tape.

It glistens and gurgles like a riverstream flowing over polished stones, and I can completely and easily lose myself in its beauty. :nod:

"All I ever wanted, was to know that you were dreaming...."
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

My vote is for Sara also. I have warm fuzzy memories of hearing it on the radio and seeing the video on MTV so many moons ago. And I love it, even though it "warped my fragile little mind" (in a good way). :D

Besides, if you think about it, the song is the perfect recorded representation of the Mac's "All My Children" public persona:

- Was Don Henley telling the truth?
- The band had to testify in court to prove Stevie wrote it.
- Are there really uncredited backup singers and musicians fleshing out the final version?
- We had to wait several years to hear the full cut in CD-quality after it was butchered for the first Tusk CD pressing.
- All those lesbian rumours I had to debunk during high school (before people knew what the song was really/supposedly about): Why is Stevie Nicks asking some chick named Sara to come drown with her in the sea of love after building a house? :laugh:

[shackin'up]

well. have to pick huh? sara's a better song. but it has no screaming solo. aaargh. can't choose. the game's outcome is a setback again. well hmmm.

CHAIN.

[Dark Angel]

Sara...definitely.

[jwd]

SARA


"Wait a minute baby, stay with me awhile. Said you'd give me light, but you never told me about the fire".

It's lyrically superb to "The Chain".

[GypsySorcerer]

"The Chain."

"Sara" doesn't do much for me.

[ryan8472]

The Chain

3rd best Mac song evah. :laugh: :nod:

[Hawkeye]

The Chain.


I can't believe Sara is here in the final 2.

[sodascouts]

I can still hear you saying you would never break The Chain!

[AliP]

SARA!!!!!!


The Chain is great and all but Sara is just so much more than that :p

[face of glass]

"The Chain". Perfection versus perfection, though.

[Mari]

Huh? I thought you hated Tschawa! :p

[DownOnRodeo]

She'll never win, but I have to vote from my heart here. So even though I love "The Chain" to pieces, I have to go with "Sara." Which is, to my ears, the most sumptuous six and a half minutes of music ever committed to tape.

It glistens and gurgles like a riverstream flowing over polished stones, and I can completely and easily lose myself in its beauty. :nod:

"All I ever wanted, was to know that you were dreaming...."

Like most of us, I am torn - but JS has bought my vote for Sara!

[strandinthewind]

Sara - of course :cool: :wavey: :cool:

[blinker12]

My vote goes to Sara

[Vianna]

I vote for Sara

[shackin'up]

SARA

Not only my favourite Mac song, but also my favourite song altogether.

It looks like you got your sweet revenge after the Tusk-guerilla-battle.... I'm happy for you.....

[golddustwoman77]

The Chain Definitely!

[TheBlueLamp]

Very tough choice.....I've just listened to both again..but I'll have to go with Sara

[Sugar]

The Chain :nod:

[bretonbanquet]

The Chain :blob2:

[Nightbird_Brett]

I vote for SARA!!!

[Dreammms]

SARA

All I ever wanted..............

[riff_Shuffler]

SARA.... all I ever wanted ;)

:wavey:

[face of glass]

Huh? I thought you hated Tschawa! :p
With fanboy posts like these? http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=180610&postcount=4

Nuh uh. :p

[rezamatic]

VOTES ARE BEING TALLIED AND THE FINAL RESULTS WILL BE POSTED SHORTLY

[rezamatic]

HERE IS YOUR CHAMPION...



WITH 18 VOTES DEFEATING 16 THE WINNER OF MARCH MACNESS 2005....
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THE CHAIN


Thanks to everyone for playing my little game and sticking it through til the end. Did it end up the way you predicted? I actually thought it would be GYOW/Chain, Storms/Silver Springs or IKINW in the final four.

[amber]

*whew, all is right with the universe*

Thanks, Rez! that was fun!
let's do a SYW one, now! :D

[rezamatic]

CORRECTION - THE SCORE WAS 18 - 17!!! CLOSE ONE, AS WAS MOST OF THE FINAL MATCH-UPS...

[HomerMcvie]

I really thought it would end with GYOW or Gypsy.....Oh Well. :rolleyes:

[wondergirl9847]

The Chain will win every time, because it's a group effort and nobody can claim "But, that's a Stevie song." or "But, that's a Christine song!", etc....everyone has a shining moment on The Chain. :)

[Mari]

With fanboy posts like these? http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=180610&postcount=4

Nuh uh. :p

lol... satanic messages?!? :lol:

[shackin'up]

CORRECTION - THE SCORE WAS 18 - 17!!! CLOSE ONE, AS WAS MOST OF THE FINAL MATCH-UPS...

cool! so everyone ( esp.who had a hard time choosing this final round) can say to him/her-self: Hmm, I could have been decisive the other way round too!!!!

haha, this is quite cool :lol: :thumbsup:

[dissention]

HERE IS YOUR CHAMPION...



WITH 18 VOTES DEFEATING 16 THE WINNER OF MARCH MACNESS 2005....
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THE CHAIN


Thanks to everyone for playing my little game and sticking it through til the end. Did it end up the way you predicted? I actually thought it would be GYOW/Chain, Storms/Silver Springs or IKINW in the final four.

Thank gawd. :laugh:

I predicted Gypsy or The Chain, so I'm happy. I'm grateful that sow Sara didn't win.

[sodascouts]

Yay Chain! :)

[StevieNicksEO17]

THE CHAIN! :blob1: :blob2:

[golddustwoman77]

Yeah! Just as I predicted early in the voting. As several people have said, it is a great song that is a total group effort. Therefore, it has a good chance of winning everytime. :thumbsup: