Why so little 1983 pro audio? [Archive]

David

04-03-2005, 08:41 PM

Except for the three doctored songs from Oakland, the US Festival 2, & the Capital Centre video (the upgrade of which is just really spectacular), why so little '83 pro audio or video?

I was just scanning a bunch of '83 photos somebody's hocking on eBay & really wishing I had a beautiful "Rhiannon" with real pro clarity -- all those shots of Stevie in her Mandarin phase make me want a video.

It's a real pisser, a real downer, one of the serious Stevie downers in my psyche for many years. What I wouldn't do to have a really great video of the California shows or the shows in the South in the final months.

WildInTheWind

04-03-2005, 09:46 PM

I'm with you on this one. Almost all of my audio are sucky audience recordings. And I love that tour, so it is quite the downer. :distress:
Though that Capitol Centre video is amazing. I love it, I wish the full show was circulating...or maybe it is and I just don't know about it?

Kelly

04-04-2005, 06:24 AM

"This is ELAINE!" "Do I have to give her back?"

Adorable moment and great show.

strandinthewind

04-04-2005, 09:22 AM

I would greatly appreciate someone posting those photos (the Mandarian ones) and explaining the Eliane thing.

I am a bit out of the loop these days it seems :cool:

gldstwmn

04-04-2005, 11:02 AM

I would greatly appreciate someone posting those photos (the Mandarian ones) and explaining the Eliane thing.

I am a bit out of the loop these days it seems :cool:

I'll bring "Elaine" with me next month so you can see it for yourself in addition to those outtake (?) sequences from Rooms On Fire. Anybody know what those are? Stevie is twirling on a marble floor dressed from head to toe in red chiffon, there is another shot of the girls and then there is a beautiful shot of Stevie dressed in the costume from TOSOTM cover. However the music that plays over this sequence is Alice. :confused:

skcin

04-04-2005, 11:42 AM

Strand - there's one vid circulating from the 83 tour that's incomplete (Landover/Largo). It stops around Gypsy, I think. It was proshot, a bit dark but the show is fab. Stevie picks a little girl named Elaine up from in the audience & holds her for a lot of Stand Back.

There's also a clip of her spinning Elaine around in the Sometimes It's a Bitch video.

I have often wondered why there's not more vid/pro-audio around from this tour. Also the 82 Mac tour - none of these shows were taped for vid besides the LA officially released show? Seems odd. :nod:

strandinthewind

04-04-2005, 12:52 PM

A Ha - I did not know that. Thanks for telling me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And - yes, gldstwmn - please bring those with you!!!!!

Johnny Stew

04-04-2005, 02:24 PM

the Capital Centre video (the upgrade of which is just really spectacular)....Hmm... how might I go about getting a DVD of this spectacular upgrade? :D

Johnny Stew

04-04-2005, 02:30 PM

I'll bring "Elaine" with me next month so you can see it for yourself in addition to those outtake (?) sequences from Rooms On Fire. Anybody know what those are? Stevie is twirling on a marble floor dressed from head to toe in red chiffon, there is another shot of the girls and then there is a beautiful shot of Stevie dressed in the costume from TOSOTM cover. However the music that plays over this sequence is Alice. :confused:Is some of that footage also in the 1989 BBC special where Stevie reads 'And The Children Go On," and her and the girls sing "Doing The Best That I Can"?

From your description, some of those sequences sound familiar... but I can't place them entirely.

estranged4life

04-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Hmm... how might I go about getting a DVD of this spectacular upgrade? :D

who has a really huge music trade page that has this show on DVD-R, But his name escapes me :shrug: :lol:

AliceLover

04-04-2005, 03:59 PM

I wish there was a video of the Ames, IA show in later November of 83. A show where she actually had a lot of control over her voclas, unlike some other wild heart shows ive heard. Out of all the thousands of people that went to all those shows we could only fart out 1 Aud. recorded video, a pro shot, and the us fest. Cmon all you old traders need to poke your head out......

gldstwmn

04-04-2005, 06:01 PM

Is some of that footage also in the 1989 BBC special where Stevie reads 'And The Children Go On," and her and the girls sing "Doing The Best That I Can"?

From your description, some of those sequences sound familiar... but I can't place them entirely.

Yes, that's where it's from but I don't think it was shot exclusively for the BBC special. I think it's from something else but what I don't know.

Kelly

04-05-2005, 05:41 AM

PenguinHead

04-05-2005, 01:42 PM

The thing about the Elaine section that I like is Stevie holds her for almost the entire Stand Back....and she is not THAT little. Maybe four or five. So she looks heavy after awhile and Stevie tries to dance and kick and rock out with Elaine. Then she makes a big production of introducing her to the audience and pretends to cry when she has to give her back to her mom. Lucky kid. Cute too, with long braids.

Regarding the little girl, I love it when Stevie says something like "Get them young...train them early!" She seemed quite wacky and wonderful on that tour, albeit a tad sloppy. She was so spontaneous and off-the-cuff. These days she appears much too measured and serious. I'm sure she still has her humour, but she doesn't display it as often in public. I dare say she was much more fun and unhibited when she was drinking and drugging.

WildInTheWind

04-05-2005, 05:09 PM

I dare say she was much more fun and unhibited when she was drinking and drugging.

Don't we all! :lol: :p

face of glass

04-06-2005, 10:49 AM

dissention

04-06-2005, 11:09 AM

Didn't anyone of you get Dissention's Dallas 9-5-1983 torrent from Easytree (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=32890)? An outstanding audience recording that one, pity that "Gold Dust Woman" is incomplete though.

See, I caved and got high speed internet just to torrent shows because of your prodding. :p :laugh:

I have lots more that I'll do when I get the time, glad you liked the Dallas one.

estranged4life

04-06-2005, 12:24 PM

Didn't anyone of you get Dissention's Dallas 9-5-1983 torrent from Easytree (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=32890)? An outstanding audience recording that one, pity that "Gold Dust Woman" is incomplete though.

have to go elsewhere for torrents now that easytree.org is history (RIP easytree.org) :(

dissention

04-06-2005, 12:27 PM

have to go elsewhere for torrents now that easytree.org is history (RIP easytree.org) :(

I know, I just read your post in the other thread. :( That was the only site I got stuff from, next to Savage Jaw and Mininova. IsoHunt has so much crap on it that it isn't even worth logging into.

David

04-09-2005, 11:08 AM

I know, I just read your post in the other thread. :( That was the only site I got stuff from, next to Savage Jaw and Mininova. IsoHunt has so much crap on it that it isn't even worth logging into.
Diss, just hurrry up & track down that 10-02-83 los angeles show on perfect or nearperfect audio/video. That is your mission, grasshoppah.

dissention

04-09-2005, 11:18 AM

Diss, just hurrry up & track down that 10-02-83 los angeles show on perfect or nearperfect audio/video. That is your mission, grasshoppah.

I've searched high and low for good quality recordings from October of '83 and there are none. I've got A quality masters from September and November, but that's it. Stevie will get her mobility back before any great shows from then surface.

David

04-09-2005, 11:44 AM

I've searched high and low for good quality recordings from October of '83 and there are [I]none.there GOTTA be, diss, there gotta be. I taped the Forum
I've got A quality masters from November, but that's it. you bastard, diss....which shows? My copies of Ames & Tulsa are great, but the last few nights are pillowy-billowy-willowy & muffled.

dissention

04-09-2005, 11:55 AM

there GOTTA be, diss, there gotta be. I taped the Forum

I haven't found any and, I'm telling ya, I searched. If there are any out there to be had, I'll find them eventually, but no one will fess up to having any right now.

you bastard, diss....which shows? My copies of Ames & Tulsa are great, but the last few nights are pillowy-billowy-willowy & muffled.

I have the masters for Tulsa (November 12th) and it's a different source than the one that's in circulation. The South Carolina masters (November 24th) are here somewhere because that was the one I was getting ready to torrent with the Oklahoma City masters, but I misplaced it. I got some masters from some of the first couple Rock A Little shows, too. Dallas and Oklahoma City, I believe.

estranged4life

04-09-2005, 11:56 AM

you bastard, diss....which shows? My copies of Ames & Tulsa are great, but the last few nights are pillowy-billowy-willowy & muffled.

late 1983 show I know is the Nov.24,1983-Columbia, SC show.

Thank God I was able to upgrade the following shows on disc with better sounding audio cassettes (That I transferred to disc):

June 24,1983-East Rutherford, NJ-New Jersey Meadowlands Arena
Sept.12,1983-New York, NY-Radio City Music Hall
Sept.25,1983-Tempe, AZ-Compton Terrace

Hopefully one of these centuries other late 1983 shows appear in circulation

David

04-09-2005, 12:02 PM

I haven't found any and, I'm telling ya, I searched. If there are any out there to be had, I'll find them eventually, but no one will fess up to having any right now.Nahh..theyre out there. That Forum show is the only show worth having....or at least once you have it, you don't need any others. that is the best show of all time
I have the masters for Tulsa (November 12th) and it's a different source than the one that's in circulation. The South Carolina masters (November 24th) are here somewhere because that was the one I was getting ready to torrent with the Oklahoma City masters, but I misplaced it.I got a master of the Forum show 7-18. It ain't great though. I also got a master from the OC show 6-29. That ain't great either. I like If anyone falls on which one I forget, one of the last two nights in November. During the chorus all the backups go "In the back...of ... your mind .." & stevie just blasts in like a blues belter with "baaaaaaack of yo' miiiiind"-------which night was that? Do you have a soundbd of that?

AliceLover

04-09-2005, 04:18 PM

Diss, just hurrry up & track down that 10-02-83 los angeles show on perfect or nearperfect audio/video. That is your mission, grasshoppah.

Saw this on someones trade site and actually asked for a trade. I do not thinkk they are trading anymore, but i sent the email about 1 week ago so we'll see.

Jimmy

David

04-10-2005, 12:53 PM

Saw this on someones trade site and actually asked for a trade. I do not thinkk they are trading anymore, but i sent the email about 1 week ago so we'll see.Cool! I hope it isn't the one I recorded. That's a "D."

Dark Angel

04-10-2005, 09:10 PM

Cool! I hope it isn't the one I recorded. That's a "D."

If it's the same one I've seen elsewhere, it's the one you recorded.
I need to get my WH tapes transferred...though I think the only October show I have is Charlotte, NC...I could be wrong though. I have been before. :lol:

estranged4life

04-10-2005, 09:28 PM

quality of recent tapes (Mainly Stevie Nicks shows from 1989-1991 & Fleetwood Mac 1982-1997) I've traded for is why I no longer have been doing straight 1:1 trades for audio tapes, I prefer to just transfer tapes to disc for others who have good ears & know what a good quality show should sound like (They know who they are...)