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all the same
03-21-2005, 12:09 AM
Okay, this has probably been posted already too, but perhaps you feel like beating a dead horse?

Worst Stevie Lyrics:

"I remember him
He was very young
No one spoke like him
He was someone"

I nearly barf every time I hear those words. And the fact that she OPENS the Trouble in Shangri-La album with that kills me!

Another one that drives me crazy is...
"Love is very powerful"

Stevie? Seriously? You can do better than that! I do love that woman though!

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:14 AM
Okay, this has probably been posted already too, but perhaps you feel like beating a dead horse?

Worst Stevie Lyrics:

"I remember him
He was very young
No one spoke like him
He was someone"


Really? I <3 those lyrics.....reminds me of a boy I once dated.


I dislike:


-"Children of the world, the forgotten chimpanzee"

-Desert Angel...the whole damn song

-"I want to fly through the world in a golden ball"

-TMMS chorus

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:16 AM
She started a whole album with
"you can ride high atop your pony,
i know you won't fall,
cuz the whole thing's phony"
..............what a silly word to rhyme with pony :shrug:

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:17 AM
yup! The fact that she integrated the word chimpanzee into a song is pretty awful! I don't know. I'm still not a fan of "I remember him, he was very young..." It just doesn't have a good flow to it. Sounds awkward.

Another doozie is:

"It hurts my self esteem. It hurts my everything. I am reeling. Ooh, it hurts my feelings!"

Barffffff!!!

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:18 AM
"everything he loved, he left at the fair"
from at the fair
what does this mean? he left a stuffed dog he won? his circus-folk girlfriend? what????

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:20 AM
from all the beautiful worlds:
"Don't give that to her, baby give that to me"

I swear I wrote this in a song when I was 10 years old....

amber
03-21-2005, 12:21 AM
There's a ton, IMO, but here's one I just recently noticed and it made me cringe.
"And your face becomes thin - You never thought it could"
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:21 AM
Another doozie is:

"It hurts my self esteem. It hurts my everything. I am reeling. Ooh, it hurts my feelings!"

Barffffff!!!


Another one I love. :shrug: But when it comes to me, I love everything Stevie writes (expect Desert Angel :laugh: )....

"I am a cliff dweller, from the old school" is fairly bad, but it fits so well into the song that I have grown to love that line! :D

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:23 AM
There's a ton, IMO, but here's one I just recently noticed and it made me cringe.
"And your face becomes thin - You never thought it could"
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:lol:

How atrocious.

I'd be here all night typing in awful lyrics. They're more abundant than the zits on Hootchie Spears' face.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:24 AM
:lol:

How atrocious.

I'd be here all night typing in awful lyrics. They're more abundant than the zits on Hootchie Spears' face.
:lol:
I know, you just have to do what pops into your head. I happening to be getting better aquainted with BD these days.

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:25 AM
Pretty much all of That Made Me Stronger and Desert Angel.

"Street angels live on the street and they always will." (Though the rest of the song is good)

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:25 AM
Hilarious!!!

How about :

"Welllllllll... I talked to my famous friend last night.
My first night up... well, his second nighter."

My famous friend? Seriously? Famous? Why famous?

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:26 AM
"It's just like a river, it's never ending" is pretty bad, as is the "you can't have him" stuff in EFO.

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:27 AM
There's a line from ghosts that I don't make any sense out of:
of course I looked it up, and I was singing it wrong for years...that always happens-- you sing whatever lyrics you thing she's saying, although....

To feel the empty spaces she's feeling
She depends on her music like a husband

Makes little sense...why feel what she's already feeling?

amber
03-21-2005, 12:27 AM
Hilarious!!!

How about :

"Welllllllll... I talked to my famous friend last night.
My first night up... well, his second nighter."

My famous friend? Seriously? Famous? Why famous?
That's a classic. Another Classic, in a song I love is "well, she dances around in a circle, well" :rolleyes: Is there a name for double self parodying? :rolleyes:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:27 AM
Rhinestone collections all the time....I wonder what Greta would say?


Garbo...the whole song


The verses to Nightbird


(Still, I love them)

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:27 AM
:lol:
I know, you just have to do what pops into your head. I happening to be getting better aquainted with BD these days.

Oh, what about this winner?

"Standing at the crossroads
Ooh, yeah, this is wild
Baby, it's my crossroad"

:lol: Kills me EVERY time.

And what about Affairs of the Heart? Whenever the chorus comes up, I always sing:

"Yes, it's better to have brushed and flossed
Than never to have brushed at all"

amber
03-21-2005, 12:28 AM
Oh, what about this winner?

"Standing at the crossroads
Ooh, yeah, this is wild
Baby, it's my crossroad"

:lol: Kills me EVERY time.

And what about Affairs of the Heart? Whenever the chorus comes up, I always sing:

"Yes, it's better to have brushed and flossed
Than never to have brushed at all"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:29 AM
"It's just like a river, it's never ending" is pretty bad, as is the "you can't have him" stuff in EFO.

*sigh* We are kindred souls.

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:29 AM
I wipe my ass with chiffon....Wellllll.......



Oh wait. :shocked:

amber
03-21-2005, 12:29 AM
Rhinestone collections all the time....I wonder what Greta would say?


Garbo...the whole song


The verses to Nightbird


(Still, I love them)
Um..."OOO!, She's got a movie star view!" :lol: :lol: (I love that song, BTW)

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:30 AM
Oh, what about this winner?

"Standing at the crossroads
Ooh, yeah, this is wild
Baby, it's my crossroad"

:lol: Kills me EVERY time.

And what about Affairs of the Heart? Whenever the chorus comes up, I always sing:

"Yes, it's better to have brushed and flossed
Than never to have brushed at all"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:31 AM
Rhinestone collections all the time....I wonder what Greta would say?

That gets on my tits like you wouldn't believe. Same with:

"Everything all around me is electric now
But I haven't burned a candle in a real long time"

Oy vey.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:31 AM
That gets on my tits like you wouldn't believe. Same with:

"Everything all around me is electric now
But I haven't burned a candle in a real long time"

Oy vey.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I forgot about that!

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:32 AM
*sigh* We are kindred souls.

EFO just grates on my nerves. Strong vocal, but those lyrics. I'm sure they could be found in my sixth grade diary. :eek:

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:33 AM
"A huge fire was burning..."

The opening for Fire Burning. It better be a huge fire if you're gonna use the word huge to describe it! And maybe you'd just say "****! That fire is huge!" just sort of to yourself instead of opening a song with it!

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:33 AM
Some Christmas Angel...

That ruins the whole song.

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:34 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: I forgot about that!

It's bloody hilarious! As is the entire song Listen To the Rain:

"Well, you're a frontliner
You put it all on the li-hine"

"Ooh, and you're a victim
Phantom of the Opera
You've been everywhere
And you live in dark shadows
You do what you want to
There's no Beauty and the Beast here
NO! NO! NO! There's no Beauty and the Beast here"

Good christ, they make me weep.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:34 AM
EFO just grates on my nerves. Strong vocal, but those lyrics. I'm sure they could be found in my sixth grade diary. :eek:
That's how I feel about most of Stevie's lyrics, except I didn't keep a diary. And if I did, I wouldn't have written that crap in there.... :lol:

Sorcerer386
03-21-2005, 12:34 AM
"I want to fly through the world in a golden ball"


:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
I want to FLY through the world in a golden ball, many of the cities I never saw at all...how could you hate those lines? Oh well, to each his own.

Actually an interesting side note, I was watching an AOL interview with the lead singer and the drummer of The Killers, and Brandon (Brendon?) Flowers, the lead singer, said that he didn't like not being able to see more of the cities because they're too busy setting up and then getting ready to leave. These Sweet Girl lines popped in my head right away.

Back on track, I agree with "It hurts my self esteem. It hurts my everything. I am reeling. Ooh, it hurts my feelings," which all_the_same mentioned, as the worst lyrics Stevie has written. Also, on the Fall from Grace demo, I love the verse that goes "Falling down a crystal ball into crystal stairs, I'm doing the same things over and over..." but then ends the verse with "Going in for repairs." Ugh.

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:34 AM
And she'll go fast like a jet plane
And then fast like a star stream

silly because she says FAST twice

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:35 AM
That gets on my tits like you wouldn't believe. Same with:

"Everything all around me is electric now
But I haven't burned a candle in a real long time"

Oy vey.

Seriously pissing myself over here! Damn funny!

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:36 AM
EFO just grates on my nerves. Strong vocal, but those lyrics. I'm sure they could be found in my sixth grade diary. :eek:

Tell me about it. I was half expecting her to sing "Bobby told me he loved me, but he gave Suzy a dandelion and they kissed behind the gym at recess. He's a meanie. And she can't have him, HE'S MINE."

amber
03-21-2005, 12:37 AM
It's bloody hilarious! As is the entire song Listen To the Rain:

"Well, you're a frontliner
You put it all on the li-hine"

"Ooh, and you're a victim
Phantom of the Opera
You've been everywhere
And you live in dark shadows
You do what you want to
There's no Beauty and the Beast here
NO! NO! NO! There's no beauty and the Beast here"

Good christ, they make me weep.
I'm so used to her crappy lyrics...I've become desensitized. I just laugh now, and keep on singing... :laugh: I remember the first time I heard "you're a frontliner, you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and you're consistent, HEY, and that's good!" I almost died of embarrassment.... :lol: :lol:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
And she'll go fast like a jet plane
And then fast like a star stream

silly because she says FAST twice


I have mad love for Sista. I think the lyrics (about her vagina :lol: ) are to die for.

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
One I love is in Battle of the Dragon... okay, to start with the fact that the song is called Battle of the Dragon, but also this little diddy:

No one walks away from this battle
From the power it so strong
Like a fury

Oh god! I can taste bile!

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
I'm so used to her crappy lyrics...I've become desensitized. I just laugh now, and keep on singing... :laugh: I remember the first time I heard "you're a frontliner, you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and you're consistent, HEY, and that's good!" I almost died of embarrassment.... :lol: :lol:

I knew I was missing something ridiculous. And I was. :lol:

HEY, and that's good!!

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
I'm so used to her crappy lyrics...I've become desensitized. I just laugh now, and keep on singing... :laugh: I remember the first time I heard "you're a frontliner, you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and you're consistent, HEY, and that's good!" I almost died of embarrassment.... :lol: :lol:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I don't think I'll ever become desensitized to Illume. -_-

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
Sometimes I like these weird "only-stevie-would-write-these" kind of lyrics...where her choice of words was quick, not calculated

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
Hilarious!!!

How about :

"Welllllllll... I talked to my famous friend last night.
My first night up... well, his second nighter."

My famous friend? Seriously? Famous? Why famous?

As I was reading these posts, the one that jumped into my head the very second I read this one was...

"You wait for love...and you hate waiting
You say, "I hate this!" "

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie. :distress:

The "you don't have him, I do have hims" from EFO are also among my cringe inducers.

And, try as I might, I can't pick one line or two from Silver Girl. I think that one might just take the prize as all-time worst compilation of lines.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:38 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I don't think I'll ever become desensitized to Illume. -_-
Me, neither, because I never listen to it. Silver girl either. :laugh:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:39 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I don't think I'll ever become desensitized to Illume. -_-

You'll never understand them, Krista. You're not a cliff dweller.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:39 AM
As I was reading these posts, the one that jumped into my head the very second I read this one was...

"You wait for love...and you hate waiting
You say, "I hate this!" "

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie. :distress:

The "you don't have him, I do have hims" from EFO are also among my cringe inducers.

And, try as I might, I can't pick one line or two from Silver Girl. I think that one might just take the prize as all-time worst compilation of lines.
I concur about Silver Girl. It's just too embarrassing, I can't listen.

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:39 AM
Tell me about it. I was half expecting her to sing "Bobby told me he loved me, but he gave Suzy a dandelion and they kissed behind the gym at recess. He's a meanie. And she can't have him, HE'S MINE."

Hell, I was expecting her to sing about a "check yes or no" note to Lindsey. :lol:

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:41 AM
You'll never understand them, Krista. You're not a cliff dweller.

Just send me up that never-ending river. :distress: I cannot pretend that the heartache falls away.

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:41 AM
One I love is in Battle of the Dragon... okay, to start with the fact that the song is called Battle of the Dragon, but also this little diddy:

No one walks away from this battle
From the power it so strong
Like a fury

Oh god! I can taste bile!

:lol::lol::lol:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:41 AM
Hell, I was expecting her to sing about a "check yes or no" note to Lindsey. :lol:


That's on the next album...next to Goldfish and the Ladybug and Mable Normand.

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:41 AM
Silver Girl sounded like a Madonna song when I first heard it, and that's REALLLLY BAAAD!!!

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:42 AM
I concur about Silver Girl. It's just too embarrassing, I can't listen.

There are some crappers in Silver Girl, but I honestly can think of worse Stevie lyrics.

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:43 AM
There are some crappers in Silver Girl, but I honestly can think of worse Stevie lyrics.

Try this one on for size:

"Well, I talked to my famous friend last night"

*wretches*

Keep it up and I'll post the lyrics to Lily Girl. :eek:

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 12:43 AM
And summer became the fall
I was not ready for the winter
It makes no difference at all
Cause I wear boots all summer long


Such a beautiful melody. Such a poor choice of words.

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:43 AM
That's on the next album...next to Goldfish and the Ladybug and Mable Normand.

Maybe she'll resurrect "I've Loved and I've Lost" for that album as well! :D

amber
03-21-2005, 12:44 AM
There are some crappers in Silver Girl, but I honestly can think of worse Stevie lyrics.
I'm sure, but not me. well, desert angel, but if there is a bottom level, of say, 5 songs, that is definitely there for me. I mean, it's not even good lyrics interspersed with bad. I honestly can't listen, it's too embarrassing.

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:45 AM
Maybe she'll resurrect "I've Loved and I've Lost" for that album as well! :D

And maybe Night Gallery!

"Ooh, you stood in her gallery!"

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:45 AM
Maybe she'll resurrect "I've Loved and I've Lost" for that album as well! :D


Hell yeah!

Add Starshine, too......cuz you used to be silver. :laugh:

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:45 AM
And summer became the fall
I was not ready for the winter
It makes no difference at all
Cause I wear boots all summer long


Such a beautiful melody. Such a poor choice of words.

The next verse is even worse....rhyming "love" with "love."

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:45 AM
Although written by Sandy Stewart... TOO FAR FROM TEXAS is rather silly...and as a duet with a Dixie Chick??? :mad: Could we get a more established performer, and not a flash-in-the-pan like her???

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 12:46 AM
Some carry a stilleto in their garter
Along with everything else
That they carry...oh, call my name

From Alice. Ugh.

amber
03-21-2005, 12:46 AM
And maybe Night Gallery!

"Ooh, you stood in her gallery!"
Don't forget the best one. "I've a dawtah bawn a gemini...." :lol: *barf* :cool:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:47 AM
Don't forget the best one. "I've a dawtah bawn a gemini...." :lol: *barf* :cool:

I'M ON THE FLOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol::lol::lol:

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:47 AM
And maybe Night Gallery!

"Ooh, you stood in her gallery!"

Hell yeah!

Add Starshine, too......cuz you used to be silver.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The tears are seriously rolling.

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:47 AM
Don't forget the best one. "I've a dawtah bawn a gemini...." :lol: *barf* :cool:


That? was classic! :lol: :lol: :lol:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Some carry a stilleto in their garter
Along with everything else
That they carry...oh, call my name

From Alice. Ugh.

That one is just plain FUG.

Them are some big garters. :laugh:

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Don't forget the best one. "I've a dawtah bawn a gemini...." :lol: *barf* :cool:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:49 AM
I hate to say it because I totally sing this with my friend Rachel constantly but...

I like the coastal cities,
I like the lights,
I like the way the city blends into the ocean at night,
It's like living on a working river,
The coast line is glittering,
Like a diamond snake in a black sky
Ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhh (Lindsey hauntingly sings that part)

Uh... really? Also, Illume pisses me off because it is basically Richard Ashcroft's New York sung with new lyrics. Exactly the same song. I still love it though.

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Papa says "There are clothes to wash"
Sister says "Brush your hair"
You'll go down to the laundromat
Maybe your sister is there

Docklands.


Originally Posted by amber
Don't forget the best one. "I've a dawtah bawn a gemini...." *barf*

My next one was going to be:

Gemini Amber... your colour is brown.... :sorry:

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:50 AM
I hate to say it because I totally sing this with my friend Rachel constantly but...

I like the coastal cities,
I like the lights,
I like the way the city blends into the ocean at night,
It's like living on a working river,
The coast line is glittering,
Like a diamond snake in a black sky
Ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhh (Lindsey hauntingly sings that part)

Uh... really? Also, Illume pisses me off because it is basically Richard Ashcroft's New York sung with new lyrics. Exactly the same song. I still love it though.

I always sing "one-eyed snake".

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:51 AM
I hate to say it because I totally sing this with my friend Rachel constantly but...

I like the coastal cities,
I like the lights,
I like the way the city blends into the ocean at night,
It's like living on a working river,
The coast line is glittering,
Like a diamond snake in a black sky
Ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhh (Lindsey hauntingly sings that part)

Uh... really? Also, Illume pisses me off because it is basically Richard Ashcroft's New York sung with new lyrics. Exactly the same song. I still love it though.

*insert Chipmunk voices* :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 12:52 AM
I always sing "one-eyed snake".


Don't let your golden hair get in the way of that, babeh.

GypsySorcerer
03-21-2005, 12:53 AM
So she walks slowly down the hall
There are many doors in the hallway
And she stares at the stairs
Ooh, there are many things to stare at these days

and not to be forgotten, "Whatsa matta baby?"

ChrystalGypsey
03-21-2005, 12:53 AM
Papa says "There are clothes to wash"
Sister says "Brush your hair"
You'll go down to the laundromat
Maybe your sister is there

Docklands.

STEVIE CHOSE THIS!!! SHE DIDN'T EVEN WRITE IT...I'LL BET SHE REGRETS IT NOW :eek:

all the same
03-21-2005, 12:55 AM
I always sing "one-eyed snake".

How about Like the one-eyed snake of a black guy.

Oh god! That was totally not intended to sound racist!

dissention
03-21-2005, 12:55 AM
So she walks slowly down the hall
There are many doors in the hallway
And she stares at the stairs
Ooh, there are many things to stare at these days

and not to be forgotten, "Whatsa matta baby?"

Those are the worst of the worst, man. I haven't listened to that song in YEARS.

Sugar
03-21-2005, 09:48 AM
"...Obsessive was my love
Worth it was my time..."

What...is she chanelling yoda?

blinker12
03-21-2005, 10:01 AM
Cause I wear boots all summer long


Such a beautiful melody. Such a poor choice of words.

I love that line! It's funny. I think it was Rolling Stone that said that was a rare example of Stevie poking fun at herself.

skcin
03-21-2005, 10:15 AM
From one of my favorite songs EVAH! But I can't stand this line:

"..and the song
begins to begin
like a wolf
on the run..."

Blech. A wolf? Please. :rolleyes: Not crazy about "begins to begin" either.

Also, I like the line "fortune is your life's love" but I hate that she says it twice so close together in the middle verse of Think About It. It sounds like she couldn't think of another line so she threw it in there again.

skcin
03-21-2005, 10:16 AM
"...Obsessive was my love
Worth it was my time..."

What...is she chanelling yoda?


Yoda: "Obsessive you felt your love was, no? Worth the time it was, yes?" :p

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 10:26 AM
From one of my favorite songs EVAH! But I can't stand this line:

"..and the song
begins to begin
like a wolf
on the run..."

Blech. A wolf? Please. :rolleyes: Not crazy about "begins to begin" either.

What's that old saying about one man's trash....

"Begins to begin" is one of my favourite phrases in all her songs. Not crazy about the wolf on the run, but I like the imagery. It's like the "fast like a jet plane and then fast like a star stream" - I like how she uses repetition in her phrasing.

Thus the reason there are so many of us fans... a little something for everyone... :)

Though I'm not sure I've ever met a fan who loved Docklands.I know, I know. She didn't write it. But she chose it, man. Same dif.

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:29 AM
"I wouldn't trade you for jade or for diahhhhhhhhhhhhmonds,
Not for one minute,
Not for anything!
I need you to be there!
Just remember when I am haunted,
That I was just so scared.
Ahhhhhh-ahhhhhhh-ahhhhh-ahhhhh" (again, insert haunted voice courtesy of Lindsey)

Totally changes tense a couple of times in that little bit o' Illume. And come on Stevie! You would so trade someone for diamonds. Jade, forget it, but diahhhhhhhhhmonds. I bet you like 'em quite a bit.

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 01:05 PM
Cause I wear boots all summer long


Such a beautiful melody. Such a poor choice of words.
I love that line too! I'm the same, I wear my boots all summer long too. I don't think she's poking fun at herself, I think she's proud of it (her image).

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 01:19 PM
She started a whole album with
"you can ride high atop your pony,
i know you won't fall,
cuz the whole thing's phony"
..............what a silly word to rhyme with pony :shrug:
Another verse that I happen to love! It's not the fact that those two words happen to rhyme but what that verse implies.

skcin
03-21-2005, 01:39 PM
Another verse that I happen to love! It's not the fact that those two words happen to rhyme but what that verse implies.

Yeah, I like it a lot too. Of course, I think that song is perfection, so... :laugh:

Phony's kind of an odd word, one you don't hear much anymore, maybe that's what bugs people?

Except for Sandy in Grease, that is "you're a fake and a phony and I wish I'd never laid eyes on you!" *throws pompoms on the ground & stalks off* :p

amber
03-21-2005, 01:41 PM
Yeah, I like it a lot too. Of course, I think that song is perfection, so... :laugh:

Phony's kind of an odd word, one you don't hear much anymore, maybe that's what bugs people?

Except for Sandy in Grease, that is "you're a fake and a phony and I wish I'd never laid eyes on you!" *throws pompoms on the ground & stalks off* :p
wait, you think that song is perfection? Let's review...."And your face becomes thin...you never thought it could" :eek:

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 01:42 PM
Another doozie is:

"It hurts my self esteem. It hurts my everything. I am reeling. Ooh, it hurts my feelings!"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Even though I love The Blue Lamp (and make no mistake, I do LOVE this song) I find it a bit odd that she wrote a whole song about a lamp. I mean...it's a lamp...come on. Lamps are not interesting, they're not romantic, and I don't care if it's a Tiffany lamp, it's downright silly. Not to diss Stevie or anything but the lamp inspiration has always struck me as a bit strange.

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 01:43 PM
Yoda: "Obsessive you felt your love was, no? Worth the time it was, yes?" :p

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I can so hear Yoda's voice when I read this.

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 01:46 PM
I hate to say it because I totally sing this with my friend Rachel constantly but...

I like the coastal cities,
I like the lights,
I like the way the city blends into the ocean at night,
It's like living on a working river,
The coast line is glittering,
Like a diamond snake in a black sky
Ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhh (Lindsey hauntingly sings that part)

I love this part. I think it's aces.

skcin
03-21-2005, 01:47 PM
wait, you think that song is perfection? Let's review...."And your face becomes thin...you never thought it could" :eek:


Don't care. *sticks tongue out*

Her strong vocal, the harmonies, the power of that song & the rest of the lyrics override those little teeny tiny problems for me. ;)

Besides, I tie the "face becomes thin" line to the earlier "the woman is so tired so the woman disappears" part. It's so sad.

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 01:49 PM
Although written by Sandy Stewart... TOO FAR FROM TEXAS is rather silly...and as a duet with a Dixie Chick??? :mad: Could we get a more established performer, and not a flash-in-the-pan like her???

Flash in the pan? Hmmm....Natalie's been around for a while now and I don't think the Dixie Chicks are going anywhere any time soon so... :shrug:

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 01:50 PM
Don't care. *sticks tongue out*

Her strong vocal, the harmonies, the power of that song & the rest of the lyrics override those little teeny tiny problems for me. ;)

Besides, I tie the "face becomes thin" line to the earlier "the woman is so tired so the woman disappears" part. It's so sad.

I agree. That whole song is a powerhouse of emotion, even the "whole thing's phony" line. I love it all!!

dissention
03-21-2005, 01:51 PM
wait, you think that song is perfection? Let's review...."And your face becomes thin...you never thought it could" :eek:

That line sounds like something Stevie would sing after visting the plastic surgeon. :o

skcin
03-21-2005, 02:00 PM
That line sounds like something Stevie would sing after visting the plastic surgeon. :o


You are a naughty, naughty boy Dissention! ;)

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 02:01 PM
"unbraid with all the love that you have like a soft silver chain" I don't like to envision long, gray hair being braided and unbraided in a song. Doesn't sit right with me somehow.

Or, "don't hide behind your hair, it's a bit of gold and braid" (yet another braid reference) great song, silly phrase....

"in your finery hey, hey" the use of the word "finery" is utterly hilarious to me.

"sunflowers and your face fascinate me." :laugh: sorry, but this makes me laugh every time.

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 02:04 PM
Don't care. *sticks tongue out*

Her strong vocal, the harmonies, the power of that song & the rest of the lyrics override those little teeny tiny problems for me. ;)

Besides, I tie the "face becomes thin" line to the earlier "the woman is so tired so the woman disappears" part. It's so sad.
You can fly swingin' from your trapeze
Scaring all the people
But you'll never scare me

LOVE THAT VERSE!!

No speed limit, this is the fast lane Gotta love this song!!

dissention
03-21-2005, 02:08 PM
"unbraid with all the love that you have like a soft silver chain" I don't like to envision long, gray hair being braided and unbraided in a song. Doesn't sit right with me somehow.

Or, "don't hide behind your hair, it's a bit of gold and braid" (yet another braid reference) great song, silly phrase....

"in your finery hey, hey" the use of the word "finery" is utterly hilarious to me.

"sunflowers and your face fascinate me." :laugh: sorry, but this makes me laugh every time.

:laugh:

How's about the entire song Thousand Days? It makes me embarrassed.

Quiet now, songbird, just for one night
Well, I know that you love to sing
Oh, baby, well I know that you love to write
Well, you live by the light of the moon
I live by the light of desire
Oooh, says words to her over the phone
Just how many people are there with you now?

That song made question whether or not she was nucking futs.

dissention
03-21-2005, 02:13 PM
You are a naughty, naughty boy Dissention! ;)

I know, I know. I wouldn't be me if I wasn't.

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 02:14 PM
Oooh, says words to her over the phone

:laugh: this cracks me up the most.

Pretty bad indeed.

I love Illume but the line, "oooh I'm alone now...with my thoughts" is also quite funny. The delivery is priceless.

dissention
03-21-2005, 02:17 PM
:laugh: this cracks me up the most.

Pretty bad indeed.

I love Illume but the line, "oooh I'm alone now...with my thoughts" is also quite funny. The delivery is priceless.

But it's just like a river, it's neverending. :rolleyes:

That is, quite possibly, the worst line she's ever written.

Well, that's a stretch, but it's a travesty all the same.

cliffdweller
03-21-2005, 02:22 PM
But it's just like a river, it's neverending. :rolleyes:

She loves her natural bodies of water that's for sure.

Next idea for a thread: Name as many Stevie songs as you can that include references to water. And rain counts. :laugh:

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 03:03 PM
I'm beginning to think that a thread about Stevie's worst lyrics might be longer then a thread on her best lyrics.... :shrug: and we call ourselves fans :laugh: :rolleyes:

The Tower
03-21-2005, 03:28 PM
Dissention mentioned "Night Gallery", which is just horrible. The Nicksfix Lori question about "Why didn't you stop Stevie from taking drugs?" Well, the answer should be apparant from "Night Gallery" and others like it- the reason Lori didn't stop Stevie from doing drugs is because she was doing them right along with her. DUH!

There have been some doozies listed, this is my biggest stinker:

"And as all this comes to an end
So go the lilies of the valley
From this hour on
Brilliant is your danger
Darker than the image on the wall
Is the fear of it all"

"Ooh, sometimes your frightened
And you don't know why
There's been a few things
Well, I know you really loved a lot
And then one day
In your bright blue sky
Well, I never did say why to you...
Why... You must know...
He said No not really"

"Memories fade like the wind
Oh, and she says
No, this will never come again
He says, Oh well... who can tell?
She says...I think you walk a thin line
Walk a thin line
She said you must know
He said No not really..."

"Then there are the things,
Misunderstandings...
Well I know that there's a few things
That you really loved a lot...
I know, in spite of what you say,
One thing that I really wanted,
I really wanted you...
This will leave you
Haunted in your mirror"

What is she ****ing talking about????? This is all one big, rambling, meaningless non-sequitur.... blecch.

Just plain awful!!!

amber
03-21-2005, 03:36 PM
Dissention mentioned "Night Gallery", which is just horrible. The Nicksfix Lori question about "Why didn't you stop Stevie from taking drugs?" Well, the answer should be apparant from "Night Gallery" and others like it- the reason Lori didn't stop Stevie from doing drugs is because she was doing them right along with her. DUH!

There have been some doozies listed, this is my biggest stinker:

"And as all this comes to an end
So go the lilies of the valley
From this hour on
Brilliant is your danger
Darker than the image on the wall
Is the fear of it all"

"Ooh, sometimes your frightened
And you don't know why
There's been a few things
Well, I know you really loved a lot
And then one day
In your bright blue sky
Well, I never did say why to you...
Why... You must know...
He said No not really"

"Memories fade like the wind
Oh, and she says
No, this will never come again
He says, Oh well... who can tell?
She says...I think you walk a thin line
Walk a thin line
She said you must know
He said No not really..."

"Then there are the things,
Misunderstandings...
Well I know that there's a few things
That you really loved a lot...
I know, in spite of what you say,
One thing that I really wanted,
I really wanted you...
This will leave you
Haunted in your mirror"

What is she ****ing talking about????? This is all one big, rambling, meaningless non-sequitur.... blecch.

Just plain awful!!!
It occurs to me that, for Stevie, this really isn't that bad. :shrug: I've never heard it sung, though, so maybe that makes it worse...It certainly holds no candle to: "You're a frontliner...you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and your consistent....HEY, and that's good....etc." To me, those lyrics are near the pentultimate of badness. The one you posted also couldn't touch the flaming crap bomb that is Silver Girl. IMO. :shrug:

all the same
03-21-2005, 03:49 PM
I'm beginning to think that a thread about Stevie's worst lyrics might be longer then a thread on her best lyrics.... :shrug: and we call ourselves fans :laugh: :rolleyes:

Dearest fellow Canadian! This is all for the sake of comedy. I adore Stevie Nicks and play her pretty much every day. When I'm listening to her songs, I can pretty easily ignore the bad writing for whatever reason. Normally bad lyrics destroy me. But I have tons of forgiveness for Stevie. She's my queen. I just love making fun of her!

all the same
03-21-2005, 03:50 PM
I should say I love making fun of everyone including myself, because I can be pretty, pretty, pretty lame sometimes!

all the same
03-21-2005, 03:55 PM
She loves her natural bodies of water that's for sure.

Next idea for a thread: Name as many Stevie songs as you can that include references to water. And rain counts. :laugh:

Let's totally do it! I will start it up!

The Tower
03-21-2005, 03:58 PM
It occurs to me that, for Stevie, this really isn't that bad. :shrug: I've never heard it sung, though, so maybe that makes it worse...It certainly holds no candle to: "You're a frontliner...you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and your consistent....HEY, and that's good....etc." To me, those lyrics are near the pentultimate of badness. The one you posted also couldn't touch the flaming crap bomb that is Silver Girl. IMO. :shrug:
At least "Silver Girl" is coherant and tells a story that most people can figure out. Whereas-

"And as all this comes to an end
So go the lilies of the valley"

and

"Then there are the things,
Misunderstandings...
Well I know that there's a few things
That you really loved a lot..."

make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I really do think that this song was a complete cut and paste scrapbook job from journals. Just like that other piece of **** "The Nightmare". PUKE!

On the other hand.....

"Bella Donna" is sheer greatness. I happen to like "Thousand Days". "Sister Honey" is kinda :shrug: .
But it's just like a river, it's neverending.

That is, quite possibly, the worst line she's ever written.

Well, that's a stretch, but it's a travesty all the same.
I hafta agree with you there. Hello Stevie?!?!? Rivers end in the sea- remember "Crystal"????

Oy. :rolleyes:

amber
03-21-2005, 04:09 PM
At least "Silver Girl" is coherant and tells a story that most people can figure out. Whereas-

"And as all this comes to an end
So go the lilies of the valley"

and

"Then there are the things,
Misunderstandings...
Well I know that there's a few things
That you really loved a lot..."

make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I really do think that this song was a complete cut and paste scrapbook job from journals. Just like that other piece of **** "The Nightmare". PUKE!

On the other hand.....

"Bella Donna" is sheer greatness. I happen to like "Thousand Days". "Sister Honey" is kinda :shrug: .

I hafta agree with you there. Hello Stevie?!?!? Rivers end in the sea- remember "Crystal"????

Oy. :rolleyes:
THey (the words) do tell a story, (Silver Girl) but they are much uglier and stupider - The song you posted sounds coherent and pretty within itself, to me. No, it doesn't mean much, just imagery - but I'd rather have that then stevie laying out clunky words to tell a story. Plus, "and as all this comes to an end, so go the lillies of the valley" kind of makes sense to me... :) :shrug: Anyway, most of her lyrics kind of suck, so it's alright... :laugh: I like Bella Donna, too, but it's not for the lyrics, I can tell you that much. :cool:

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 04:19 PM
And summer became the fall
I was not ready for the winter
It makes no difference at all
Cause I wear boots all summer long


Such a beautiful melody. Such a poor choice of words.I love that verse!!! :distress:

I should've known that a thread about Stevie's bad lyrics would be a long one in no time at all! :rolleyes: :laugh:

And y'all need to lay off "Sister Honey." :mad: :laugh:

Anyway, I've always hated this part of "Thousand Days." Well, I'm not wild about the whole song, anyway, but...

"The closest you've ever come to me
Was to help me up the stairs
You stood in the middle of the stairway
You nearly dragged me up the stairs"

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 04:21 PM
"unbraid with all the love that you have like a soft silver chain" I don't like to envision long, gray hair being braided and unbraided in a song. Doesn't sit right with me somehow.I thought I was the only one who didn't particularly like that! It's not that it's all that unattractive to me, I just don't see why braiding and unbraiding someone's hair is so monumental and meaningful. :shrug:

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 04:24 PM
Oh, and the chorus of "Races are Run" isn't all that bad, but it sounds too conservative Republican for me, like some people are just screwed and that's the way it is whereas others are destined to do well.

"Races are run
Some people win
Some people always have to lose"

amber
03-21-2005, 04:26 PM
I thought I was the only one who didn't particularly like that! It's not that it's all that unattractive to me, I just don't see why braiding and unbraiding someone's hair is so monumental and meaningful. :shrug:
I dunno, either, but it sure is to stevie, she's has quite a few songs which mention her hair, or are titled Golden Braid :laugh: , etc. Especially considering, um, it's hair? I don't know about you, but I haven't written any songs about my hair...

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 04:30 PM
I dunno, either, but it sure is to stevie, she's has quite a few songs which mention her hair, or are titled Golden Braid :laugh: , etc. Especially considering, um, it's hair? I don't know about you, but I haven't written any songs about my hair...I haven't either. :laugh: But, then again, I like using stethoscopes, so it occurred to me that I have no room to talk! :laugh: And I have to admit that I've written poems in which I've mentioned other people's hair, though it was never the main point of the poem or anything. :lol:

But I think "Gold and Braid" is a kick-ass song even if I don't quite get the wonder of styling hair. :nod:

amber
03-21-2005, 04:35 PM
I haven't either. :laugh: But, then again, I like using stethoscopes, so it occurred to me that I have no room to talk! :laugh: And I have to admit that I've written poems in which I've mentioned other people's hair, though it was never the main point of the poem or anything. :lol:

But I think "Gold and Braid" is a kick-ass song even if I don't quite get the wonder of styling hair. :nod:
I like both songs. Doesn't mean the lyrics aren't stupid... :lol:

sparky
03-21-2005, 04:44 PM
I knew this thread will fill up in a flash. And that it would soon turn into a few skirmishes. I agree with most of the lyrical atrocities listed here. Let's face it, Homegirl has cranked out some real stinkers. For some reason though, they don't sound as ridiculous when sung as they do on paper. Lucky for Stevie ! Still, the two things she needs more desperately than a new wardrobe person are an editor and a thesaurus.

The Tower
03-21-2005, 05:14 PM
Anyway, I've always hated this part of "Thousand Days." Well, I'm not wild about the whole song, anyway, but...

"The closest you've ever come to me
Was to help me up the stairs
You stood in the middle of the stairway
You nearly dragged me up the stairs"
I always loved this song. It would have been so much better than some of the crap from RAL or Street Angel.

I've always liked this part-

"He says, 'You never cared about time before, my friend.'"

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 05:19 PM
...

"You wait for love...and you hate waiting
You say, "I hate this!" "

...

Oh yes Cat, :yack: I have always hated those lyrics. :eek:

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 05:23 PM
So she walks slowly down the hall
There are many doors in the hallway
And she stares at the stairs
Ooh, there are many things to stare at these days

and not to be forgotten, "Whatsa matta baby?"

I think those are her worst ever. I can't even listen to that song without wanting to retch!

all the same
03-21-2005, 05:23 PM
Oh yes Cat, :yack: I have always hated those lyrics. :eek:


Me too! Those lyrics are serious ball sniffers! Totally awkward words. Still love her though!

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 05:28 PM
Don't care. *sticks tongue out*

Her strong vocal, the harmonies, the power of that song & the rest of the lyrics override those little teeny tiny problems for me. ;)

Besides, I tie the "face becomes thin" line to the earlier "the woman is so tired so the woman disappears" part. It's so sad.

I agree. I don't think she's saying she didn't believe her face could become thin but that she never believed things would drag her down so...

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 05:34 PM
It occurs to me that, for Stevie, this really isn't that bad. :shrug: I've never heard it sung, though, so maybe that makes it worse...It certainly holds no candle to: "You're a frontliner...you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and your consistent....HEY, and that's good....etc." To me, those lyrics are near the pentultimate of badness. The one you posted also couldn't touch the flaming crap bomb that is Silver Girl. IMO. :shrug:

Well, the irony is that it sounds awesome. I love her sound on this song. It is extremely nebulous but I like it just the same. She makes the silly lyrics sound cool, I like them. :shrug: I'm very forgiving of a lot of things Stevie says. Don't you kind of have to be to be a fan? :D

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 05:37 PM
I dunno, either, but it sure is to stevie, she's has quite a few songs which mention her hair, or are titled Golden Braid :laugh: , etc. Especially considering, um, it's hair? I don't know about you, but I haven't written any songs about my hair...

But when someone plays with your hair it feels so good and is very intimate. Imagine you are 70 and still your lover takes great care to make you feel special. I love that line.

all the same
03-21-2005, 05:53 PM
I just posted "The ocean is your blanket" in the water reference thread, but I think it rightfully deserves a place here. Has anyone mentioned it here yet?

Uh... oceans are a little on the wet side... and do you really want to be wrapped in a wet blanket? Really? Wouldn't you just get a cold from that, Stevie? And I love in that song that she says she wants to fly around the world in a golden ball. I'd like to fly around the world in two golden balls!

sparky
03-21-2005, 06:00 PM
I just posted "The ocean is your blanket" in the water reference thread, but I think it rightfully deserves a place here. Has anyone mentioned it here yet?

Uh... oceans are a little on the wet side... and do you really want to be wrapped in a wet blanket? Really? Wouldn't you just get a cold from that, Stevie? And I love in that song that she says she wants to fly around the world in a golden ball. I'd like to fly around the world in two golden balls!

I would like to fly around the world in a golden ball, wrapped up in my ocean blanket, alongside a diamond snake in a black sky, hopefully avoiding running into the black space needle or crossing it's black shadow. Ah, to hell with the golden ball, I wouldn't run into anything if I simply rang like a bell through the night. Now THAT'S the way to travel.

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 06:02 PM
I would like to fly around the world in a golden ball, wrapped up in my ocean blanket, alongside a diamond snake in a black sky, hopefully avoiding running into the black space needle or crossing it's black shadow. Ah, to hell with the golden ball, I wouldn't run into anything if I simply rang like a bell through the night. Now THAT'S the way to travel.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like, "like a diamond snake in a black sky". I mean, wouldn't it be "like a diamond encrusted snake"? That sounds even worse. What the hell is a "diamond snake"? :eek:

all the same
03-21-2005, 06:04 PM
I would like to fly around the world in a golden ball, wrapped up in my ocean blanket, alongside a diamond snake in a black sky, hopefully avoiding running into the black space needle or crossing it's black shadow. Ah, to hell with the golden ball, I wouldn't run into anything if I simply rang like a bell through the night. Now THAT'S the way to travel.

I'm talkin' down town! That's how I'm going to Vegas in May. For sure! Still haven't found anything good for closing night. LAME!!!

all the same
03-21-2005, 06:05 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like, "like a diamond snake in a black sky". I mean, wouldn't it be "like a diamond encrusted snake"? That sounds even worse. What the hell is a "diamond snake"? :eek:

you ain't gonna find no diamond snakes by the ol' swimmin' hole, I can tell you that much.

amber
03-21-2005, 06:06 PM
I'm talkin' down town!
:lol:
Omigod - I haven't been able to get that phrase out of my head these past few days! From the Simpsons when they were on "The View".... :laugh:

all the same
03-21-2005, 06:13 PM
:lol:
Omigod - I haven't been able to get that phrase out of my head these past few days! From the Simpsons when they were on "The View".... :laugh:

Totally! Star Jones! That's awesome that you got the reference! I pretty much get that in my head every day! The other thing is, there is this really crappy commercial that I think they only play in Calgary for InstaLoans or one of those companies for retards who can't keep track of their money and need quick cash. Anyway, this African American... or African Canadian, I guess, woman is on the phone trying to get through and the announcer says something about her phone being cut off and she says "Mmmmmmhmmmm, it was my cousin's fault." And she does that awesome side to side head thing! So funny!

amber
03-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Totally! Star Jones! That's awesome that you got the reference! I pretty much get that in my head every day! The other thing is, there is this really crappy commercial that I think they only play in Calgary for InstaLoans or one of those companies for retards who can't keep track of their money and need quick cash. Anyway, this African American... or African Canadian, I guess, woman is on the phone trying to get through and the announcer says something about her phone being cut off and she says "Mmmmmmhmmmm, it was my cousin's fault." And she does that awesome side to side head thing! So funny!
:lol: :lol:
Yeah, I think of it a lot, but it's been worse these past few days. Then I laugh..... :lol: :p

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 06:21 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like, "like a diamond snake in a black sky". I mean, wouldn't it be "like a diamond encrusted snake"? That sounds even worse. What the hell is a "diamond snake"? :eek:
a row of stars.....

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 06:23 PM
a row of stars.....

Right, I know what she means I was being facetious. :p It just should be "diamond covered snake" or something like that. Diamond snake is just wrong. Yes, I am aware that I am being very anal.

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 06:26 PM
Right, I know what she means I was being facetious. :p It just should be "diamond covered snake" or something like that. Diamond snake is just wrong. Yes, I am aware that I am being very anal.


Wow. I didn't know a diamond snake was a 'row of stars'. It totally makes sense now. :cool:

The Tower
03-21-2005, 06:27 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like, "like a diamond snake in a black sky". I mean, wouldn't it be "like a diamond encrusted snake"? That sounds even worse. What the hell is a "diamond snake"? :eek:
The coastline is glittering like a diamond snake in a black sky. She's talking about the view of looking down at the earth at night and seeing the lights of civilization- it looks like a "diamond snake".

I think it's pretty good imagery. My only problem with these lyrics is that she used them in "Destiny Rules". That was lame.

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 06:29 PM
Yes, I am aware that I am being very anal.
So am I.... :sorry: I guess I have Mad Cow (p.m.s.ing) :laugh:

all the same
03-21-2005, 06:33 PM
I love this song, but has anyone put up, "Yesterday I was fascinated by somebody else." yet? Pretty damn bad! But still a mega good song!

bikerchic
03-21-2005, 06:39 PM
Wow. I didn't know a diamond snake was a 'row of stars'. It totally makes sense now. :cool:
Are you serious Curtis or are you being facetious?

amber
03-21-2005, 06:40 PM
I love this song, but has anyone put up, "Yesterday I was fascinated by somebody else." yet? Pretty damn bad! But still a mega good song!
I don't think that's bad, I actually think it's good. :shrug: That happens to me a lot, too.

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 06:44 PM
Are you serious Curtis or are you being facetious?

Um, consider the source. When is he ever serious? ;) :laugh:

dissention
03-21-2005, 06:44 PM
It occurs to me that, for Stevie, this really isn't that bad. :shrug: I've never heard it sung, though, so maybe that makes it worse...It certainly holds no candle to: "You're a frontliner...you put it all on the li-hine.......OOO and your consistent....HEY, and that's good....etc." To me, those lyrics are near the pentultimate of badness. The one you posted also couldn't touch the flaming crap bomb that is Silver Girl. IMO. :shrug:

HEY, and that's good!!

:laugh: :wavey:

No, seriously, Mirror Mirror is one of her worst compositions. It's just a bunch of incomplete sentences and thoughts jammed together with the nightly news jingle.

amber
03-21-2005, 06:47 PM
HEY, and that's good!!

:laugh: :wavey:

No, seriously, Mirror Mirror is one of her worst compositions. It's just a bunch of incomplete sentences and thoughts jammed together with the nightly news jingle.
:lol: :lol:
You just repeated that cause you know I'll laugh every time, right? Yeah, I read it - I see the point, but at least the words are pretty? :shrug: They also seem to have a pattern to their "totally not make sensedness" :laugh: But, the point is, they certainly couldn't be called "good", could they? :lol:

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 06:48 PM
HEY, and that's good!!

:laugh: :wavey:

No, seriously, Mirror Mirror is one of her worst compositions. It's just a bunch of incomplete sentences and thoughts jammed together with the nightly news jingle.

I've wondered if that's why she cut it from the album, because she recognized it was incoherent. Or maybe it was because it sounded almost exactly like that Risky Business song (train scene). Maybe she ripped it off and remembered Waddy saying "don't ever do that again" regarding lifting the Edge riff from a Police album. I've always wanted to know why she cut Mirror.

all the same
03-21-2005, 06:48 PM
I don't think that's bad, I actually think it's good. :shrug: That happens to me a lot, too.

fascinated just sounds weird. again, I love the song. so, maybe deep down, I think she's a lyrical genius!

dissention
03-21-2005, 06:51 PM
:lol: :lol:
You just repeated that cause you know I'll laugh every time, right? Yeah, I read it - I see the point, but at least the words are pretty? :shrug: They also seem to have a pattern to their "totally not make sensedness" :laugh: But, the point is, they certainly couldn't be called "good", could they? :lol:

Honey, I laugh my ass off just as much as you do at that line. Don't be surprised if I start posting it randomly. :laugh:

I like the opening line only in Mirror Mirror. The rest is just...atrocious. But that's par for the course. :laugh:

dissention
03-21-2005, 06:53 PM
I've wondered if that's why she cut it from the album, because she recognized it was incoherent. Or maybe it was because it sounded almost exactly like that Risky Business song (train scene). Maybe she ripped it off and remembered Waddy saying "don't ever do that again" regarding lifting the Edge riff from a Police album. I've always wanted to know why she cut Mirror.

She supposedly didn't the like the way it came out. And after hearing it, I agree. But she probably loves her inane lyrics in that mess, while I happen to think those are the journal pages that she should have housetrained her doggies with.

Lorraine
03-21-2005, 06:53 PM
I've wondered if that's why she cut it from the album, because she recognized it was incoherent. Or maybe it was because it sounded almost exactly like that Risky Business song (train scene). Maybe she ripped it off and remembered Waddy saying "don't ever do that again" regarding lifting the Edge riff from a Police album. I've always wanted to know why she cut Mirror.


I'm interested in what Police track the riff was "borrowed" from, I didn't know this, if its true does anyone have any clues which one?


thanks

Lorraine :)

The Tower
03-21-2005, 07:13 PM
I've always wanted to know why she cut Mirror.
Maybe she was smart enough to realize how much the song sucks...... Nahhhh. Actually, I recall her saying somewhere that it was the planned title track for what became TOSOTM. You know how she is with her title tracks songs ("they've gotta be killer"). Perhaps, she thought it was good but a little to sucky to be a title track. I think it's too sucky to be a B side from Street Angel.

P.S.: "Paper Doll" sucks ass, too!! UGH!!!! ( :p Amber)

"As the rain came, she refused to wear her coat." :rolleyes:

dissention
03-21-2005, 07:16 PM
"As the rain came, she refused to wear her coat." :rolleyes:

With a little tweaking, that would make a fabulous condom commercial jingle.

wondergirl9847
03-21-2005, 07:29 PM
I love Mirror Mirror...no matter how retarded the lyrics may be. LOL

She's written worse.

Serrart
03-21-2005, 08:04 PM
At least "Silver Girl" is coherant and tells a story that most people can figure out. Whereas-

"And as all this comes to an end
So go the lilies of the valley"

and

"Then there are the things,
Misunderstandings...
Well I know that there's a few things
That you really loved a lot..."

make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I really do think that this song was a complete cut and paste scrapbook job from journals. Just like that other piece of **** "The Nightmare". PUKE!

On the other hand.....

"Bella Donna" is sheer greatness. I happen to like "Thousand Days". "Sister Honey" is kinda :shrug: .

I hafta agree with you there. Hello Stevie?!?!? Rivers end in the sea- remember "Crystal"????

Oy. :rolleyes:

I love many of the lyrics that have been mentioned. :nod: A river can totally be neverending for me and I see diamond snakes in black skies quote often (No, I'm not on anything :laugh: ). Those I agree on till now are Sister honey, Ghosts, the desire line in Thousand Days, Listen To The Rain, but for the rest, I don't know what you're talking about. :cool:


Romy

dissention
03-21-2005, 08:08 PM
A river can totally be neverending for me

Too bad it can't be in reality.

Serrart
03-21-2005, 08:12 PM
Too bad it can't be in reality.

Oh come on... are you suddenly become unaware of metaphors? ;) What's so wrong with them?

Romy

dissention
03-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Oh come on... are you suddenly become unaware of metaphors? ;) What's so wrong with them?

Romy

I only have problems with bad ones. :o

Serrart
03-21-2005, 08:29 PM
Well, a neverending river is standard, almost a pattern, no?

Romy

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 08:54 PM
I would like to fly around the world in a golden ball, wrapped up in my ocean blanket, alongside a diamond snake in a black sky, hopefully avoiding running into the black space needle or crossing it's black shadow. Ah, to hell with the golden ball, I wouldn't run into anything if I simply rang like a bell through the night. Now THAT'S the way to travel.:laugh::lol::lol::laugh::lol::laugh:

That nearly killed me.

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 08:55 PM
The coastline is glittering like a diamond snake in a black sky. She's talking about the view of looking down at the earth at night and seeing the lights of civilization- it looks like a "diamond snake".

I think it's pretty good imagery. My only problem with these lyrics is that she used them in "Destiny Rules". That was lame.I agree. :nod:

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 08:56 PM
I love this song, but has anyone put up, "Yesterday I was fascinated by somebody else." yet? Pretty damn bad! But still a mega good song!More lyrics I love! :nod:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 09:02 PM
I agree. :nod:


I like the double lyric use. I think it fits more in Illume than in DR. As with the "Downstairs where the big ole house is mine" lyrics are in WTTR...S and Blue Lamp. It fits both songs well, IMO.

amber
03-21-2005, 09:04 PM
I like the double lyric use. I think it fits more in Illume than in DR. As with the "Downstairs where the big ole house is mine" lyrics are in WTTR...S and Blue Lamp. It fits both songs well, IMO.
It's good you like it, cause I couldn't help but notice stevie does that constantly. :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 09:07 PM
It's good you like it, cause I couldn't help but notice stevie does that constantly. :laugh:


Why write just one song, when you can write a whole album in one swipe of the pen? :laugh:

amber
03-21-2005, 09:12 PM
Why write just one song, when you can write a whole album in one swipe of the pen? :laugh:
:lol: :laugh: :lol: "hmmm, lets see, I haven't used 'trackaghost' in awhile...I think I'll just pop that one into 'sweet girl'...." :laugh:

dissention
03-21-2005, 09:13 PM
It's good you like it, cause I couldn't help but notice stevie does that constantly. :laugh:

It drives me NUTS and makes her look lazy. Destiny and Enchanted being the most heinous offenders.

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 09:15 PM
I like the double lyric use. I think it fits more in Illume than in DR. As with the "Downstairs where the big ole house is mine" lyrics are in WTTR...S and Blue Lamp. It fits both songs well, IMO.Yeah, I think it works with "Blue Lamp" and "WTTR...S." And I'm with you on you earlier comment about the "Christmas angel" ruining it. I hate that part, but I've gotten so used to it that I hardly even think about how I dislike it.

amber
03-21-2005, 09:16 PM
Why write just one song, when you can write a whole album in one swipe of the pen? :laugh:
I'm really waiting for "well, she dances around in a circle well" to make another appearance. And, hey, I could use another dose of "FAST, like a jetplane and then FAST like a star stream" :lol: :thumbsup:

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 09:16 PM
It drives me NUTS and makes her look lazy. Destiny and Enchanted being the most heinous offenders.I think that's tied with how much of "Thousand Days" is borrowed..no, STOLEN from "Whole Lotta Trouble." I think "WLT" is a much better song, but that's me.

PenguinHead
03-21-2005, 09:20 PM
"everything he loved, he left at the fair"
from at the fair
what does this mean? he left a stuffed dog he won? his circus-folk girlfriend? what????
:] This made me laugh...and laugh! Hi, fellow Oregonian! I'm in NE Portland, where are you?

I guess lyrics are a subjective thing. The things that make me cringe most are when Stevie switches from first, to second, to third person --all in the same verse. I don't even think she realizes it. It makes her "messages" less understandable and hard to follow. Also, when she butchers language rules (granted it's acceptable to certain extent in music). But this one bothers me:

"The earth and the sea and the sky....IS at rest with the ocean."
Why couldn't she just say "ARE" ?

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 09:28 PM
In the realm of demos...

I love "Belle Fleur" and it puts me in this incomparable dreamy kind of mood, but I always thought the first verse came off as silly and elementary-

"Men and women
Livin' in the canyon
Indian dancing
All night long
They form a circle
Hand in hand"

And "Something Exquisite" is another demo that I like, but I just think this part is laughable and the inclusion of "ever" makes it worse-

"If you do not run the race
Then you cannot win it (ever)
How will you know if you do not do it (if you do not run it)"

amber
03-21-2005, 09:29 PM
[COLOR=Navy]"Men and women
Livin' in the canyon
Indian dancing
All night long
They form a circle
Hand in hand"

Well, of course this part totally makes sense to me... :) ;)

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 09:30 PM
"The earth and the sea and the sky....IS at rest with the ocean."
Why couldn't she just say "ARE" ?Yeah, that is annoying.

PenguinHead
03-21-2005, 09:36 PM
I never perceived Stevie's use of lyrics/verses in several songs as laziness. I think she sees it as a thread that gathers songs together.

ontheEdgeof17
03-21-2005, 09:36 PM
Yeah, that is annoying.


I think stevie meant "...and the sky is at rest with the ocean" but the lyric break makes it odd.

GateandGarden
03-21-2005, 09:38 PM
I think stevie meant "...and the sky is at rest with the ocean" but the lyric break makes it odd.I never thought about it like that.

all the same
03-21-2005, 09:44 PM
More lyrics I love! :nod:

I revoke this one! Yeah, these are good lyrics. I talked to "my famous friend tonight" and she said she liked them too. Oh, and she's not famous either.

amber
03-21-2005, 09:45 PM
I revoke this one! Yeah, these are good lyrics. I talked to "my famous friend tonight" and she said she liked them too. Oh, and she's not famous either.
:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Did you argue, and that's when you said you would stand outside in the rain, and refuse to wear your coat? :laugh:

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:04 PM
:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Did you argue, and that's when you said you would stand outside in the rain, and refuse to wear your coat? :laugh:

Hey ahhhhhbuhhhhhhh (I am incapable of saying your name any other way than how Rob said Amber on Survivor - note: I only watched the allstar one. I am by no means a Survivor junkie. I have no time for it). My friend "Red" and I are totally sitting pretty much right across the aisle from you opening night. We should totally shoot each other death stares or something! Let's do it! And if it's raining, I'm for sure refusing to wear my coat! I don't care if I get sick! No sir, I ain't wearin' no coat! So, don't even ask me to wear one! I do what I want.

amber
03-21-2005, 10:07 PM
Hey ahhhhhbuhhhhhhh (I am incapable of saying your name any other way than how Rob said Amber on Survivor - note: I only watched the allstar one. I am by no means a Survivor junkie. I have no time for it). My friend "Red" and I are totally sitting pretty much right across the aisle from you opening night. We should totally shoot each other death stares or something! Let's do it! And if it's raining, I'm for sure refusing to wear my coat! I don't care if I get sick! No sir, I ain't wearin' no coat! So, don't even ask me to wear one! I do what I want.
across the aisle...which section? okay, sounds good. But actually, GypsySorcer and I have a little plan to rush the front, which she thoughtfully named "outta the way, Cancer bitches coming through!" :lol: Which i see by your birthdate you are qualified to participate in.... :p No, we'll have to say "hi"....but deathstares? That is one contest I would totally win. :D

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:13 PM
I don't know about that. I shoot deathstares unconsiously even at BOYS I HAVE CRUSHES ON!!! So, I think I'm gonna win!

amber
03-21-2005, 10:22 PM
I don't know about that. I shoot deathstares unconsiously even at BOYS I HAVE CRUSHES ON!!! So, I think I'm gonna win!
I'm known for my death stare. :shrug: All across the land, in fact. You would know that if you didn't live in stupid ol' Canada... :lol: We could just smile and say hi? I wouldn't want to kill you with the lazers emanating from my eyes....You're Welcome! :wavey:

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:25 PM
I'm known for my death stare. :shrug: All across the land, in fact. You would know that if you didn't live in stupid ol' Canada... :lol: We could just smile and say hi? I wouldn't want to kill you with the lazers emanating from my eyes....You're Welcome! :wavey:

Okay, in the words of Stevie "Well, it's hard to be civil, and it's real hard to be nice" but for you, I'll try! You seem to be pretty damn great to me. But are you ugly? I won't talk to you if you're ugly! Just kidding... or am I?

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:26 PM
I'm known for my death stare. :shrug: All across the land, in fact. You would know that if you didn't live in stupid ol' Canada... :lol: We could just smile and say hi? I wouldn't want to kill you with the lazers emanating from my eyes....You're Welcome! :wavey:

By the way, I am sitting in section 6, row FF (think F*ck Face, it will help you to remember) in the middle of the row.

amber
03-21-2005, 10:31 PM
By the way, I am sitting in section 6, row FF (think F*ck Face, it will help you to remember) in the middle of the row.
okay - great. I look like this, but with two eyes - that should help you remember.... :lol:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/Picture097.jpg

catinthedark
03-21-2005, 10:33 PM
:] Also, when she butchers language rules (granted it's acceptable to certain extent in music). But this one bothers me:

"The earth and the sea and the sky....IS at rest with the ocean."
Why couldn't she just say "ARE" ?

Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! That one has bugged me forever. I see the explanation above, but the phrasing of it makes it just sound wrong.

Here's another one that I loathe -

One set of doors was the color of honey
One set of doors was pink and gray
"Well, I wonder which set is mine," said she
As she walked down the long hallway

Sorry Stevie!! I love you... but.... :shocked:

For every worst line evaaah.... I know I have ten faves. :nod:

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:35 PM
okay - great. I look like this, but with two eyes - that should help you remember.... :lol:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/Picture097.jpg

Cool! Alright, well, I'll be looking for you then! I look like the photo in my profile only not orange and not permantly shocked!

amber
03-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Cool! Alright, well, I'll be looking for you then! I look like the photo in my profile only not orange and not permantly shocked!
aw, crap, you're not orange? I was so looking forward to that part!

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:42 PM
aw, crap, you're not orange? I was so looking forward to that part!

Just like I was really hoping you had only one eye or one really small eye like Sloth from Goonies!

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:47 PM
Just like I was really hoping you had only one eye or one really small eye like Sloth from Goonies!

This is what I look like only I have two sides to my face.

amber
03-21-2005, 10:48 PM
This is what I look like only I have two sides to my face.
oh, cute! And, you say there's another side, to?

amber
03-21-2005, 10:50 PM
Just like I was really hoping you had only one eye or one really small eye like Sloth from Goonies!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
No, but I do have one really small leg.

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:50 PM
oh, cute! And, you say there's another side, to?

Yeah, but it's hideously deformed.

all the same
03-21-2005, 10:51 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
No, but I do have one really small leg.

So, can I totally start calling you Ilene or Lena?

amber
03-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah, but it's hideously deformed.
:lol:
cool...will you be flipping a coin to decide everything?

amber
03-21-2005, 10:53 PM
So, can I totally start calling you Ilene or Lena?
:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 11:14 PM
Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! That one has bugged me forever. I see the explanation above, but the phrasing of it makes it just sound wrong.

Here's another one that I loathe -

One set of doors was the color of honey
One set of doors was pink and gray
"Well, I wonder which set is mine," said she
As she walked down the long hallway

Sorry Stevie!! I love you... but.... :shocked:

For every worst line evaaah.... I know I have ten faves. :nod:

Oh Cat, I think that one may even be tied with staring at stairs. :eek: I f*cking HATE those lyrics. Sorry Stevie. :sorry:

SuzeQuze
03-21-2005, 11:16 PM
okay - great. I look like this, but with two eyes - that should help you remember.... :lol:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/antisnark/Picture097.jpg

Amber, dude, that pic is smoldering! Sheebus. :wavey:

amber
03-21-2005, 11:18 PM
Amber, dude, that pic is smoldering! Sheebus. :wavey:
Oh, thanks! How sweet. I was messing with my hair last night, and wanted to take a pic of it, apparently. :rolleyes: :laugh:

all the same
03-21-2005, 11:22 PM
Oh Cat, I think that one may even be tied with staring at stairs. :eek: I f*cking HATE those lyrics. Sorry Stevie. :sorry:

Holy ****! What song is that? Horrendous!!! The colour of honey? That is so lame@

all the same
03-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Amber, dude, that pic is smoldering! Sheebus. :wavey:

Yep, lookin' good! Too bad about that one short leg though. You might have a bit of trouble running running up to the stage. Me and the other Cancer squad members might have to carry you! Must be hard getting around for you, eh? :D

amber
03-21-2005, 11:27 PM
Yep, lookin' good! Too bad about that one short leg though. You might have a bit of trouble running running up to the stage. Me and the other Cancer squad members might have to carry you! Must be hard getting around for you, eh? :D
:lol:

I can hop at up to speeds of 100 MPH. :cool:

catinthedark
03-22-2005, 12:08 AM
Holy ****! What song is that? Horrendous!!! The colour of honey? That is so lame@

Affairs of the Heart, off the masterpiece that is Behind the Mask. :eek:

all the same
03-22-2005, 12:18 AM
Affairs of the Heart, off the masterpiece that is Behind the Mask. :eek:

Oh my! That is the only Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac album (featuring Stevie) that I don't own and have no plans of owning. Is there anything good on it? Based on the songs they chose for the Very Best Of from it, I'm banking on a "no".

catinthedark
03-22-2005, 12:29 AM
Oh my! That is the only Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac album (featuring Stevie) that I don't own and have no plans of owning. Is there anything good on it? Based on the songs they chose for the Very Best Of from it, I'm banking on a "no".

Er... no. I liked "In the Back of My Mind" for a while, and I remember loving it live - but I went back and listened to it a little while ago and was hugely disappointed.

Here's another gem: (again, Stevie, my sincere apologies. I'd be here for hours with my favourites...)


So what has rock and roll ever done for you?
You, too!
He says, "What has rock and roll ever done for me?"
I said, "Everything!"
What has rock and roll ever done for us?
Well, well, well, another glass
Of something French - champagne!

Good gawd. :eek:

all the same
03-22-2005, 12:34 AM
So what has rock and roll ever done for you?
You, too!
He says, "What has rock and roll ever done for me?"
I said, "Everything!"
What has rock and roll ever done for us?
Well, well, well, another glass
Of something French - champagne!

Good gawd. :eek:

Well done! I totally puked the first time I heard that song! It's pretty funny actually. Unintentionally funny.

skcin
03-22-2005, 10:28 AM
"The closest you've ever come to me
Was to help me up the stairs
You stood in the middle of the stairway
You nearly dragged me up the stairs"


LOL! Thought of this one last night. UGH!

GateandGarden
03-22-2005, 10:29 AM
Amber, dude, that pic is smoldering! Sheebus. :wavey:Totally! :nod:

SuzeQuze
03-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Holy ****! What song is that? Horrendous!!! The colour of honey? That is so lame@

Totally, and guess what song was going through my head this morning? Cat, I gotta thank you for that! :p

ontheEdgeof17
03-22-2005, 10:52 AM
Oh my! That is the only Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood Mac album (featuring Stevie) that I don't own and have no plans of owning. Is there anything good on it? Based on the songs they chose for the Very Best Of from it, I'm banking on a "no".


I think it's a great album. I love Stevie's work on it. :thumbsup: (even
The Second Time, in which EVERYONE hates.) Chris' work is far more superior, though.

amber
03-22-2005, 01:04 PM
Totally! :nod:
Thanks, dear. :xoxo: It's a miracle! A fricking Miracle!!!! :laugh:

The Tower
03-22-2005, 01:30 PM
I think it's a great album. I love Stevie's work on it. :thumbsup: (even
The Second Time, in which EVERYONE hates.) Chris' work is far more superior, though.
I really like Behind the Mask. And I looooooooooove "The Second Time"!!! :nod:

all the same
03-22-2005, 02:49 PM
I think it's a great album. I love Stevie's work on it. :thumbsup: (even
The Second Time, in which EVERYONE hates.) Chris' work is far more superior, though.

Well, it's pretty much in every second hand record store I ever go in. So, maybe I should just suck it up and buy it! But it has those two dill hole guitar players on it! NO LINDSEY!!!

all the same
03-22-2005, 02:51 PM
Thanks, dear. :xoxo: It's a miracle! A fricking Miracle!!!! :laugh:

Can I remind you all, though, the face is golden, but she has a tiny withered leg. This cannot look good! When you wear nylons, do you, like, bunch it up or roll it with a safety pin to hold it in place? Do you have any idea how funny the thought of a tiny leg is to me? I'm practically pissing myself over here! :blob1: <---like this guy!

amber
03-22-2005, 02:56 PM
Can I remind you all, though, the face is golden, but she has a tiny withered leg. This cannot look good! When you wear nylons, do you, like, bunch it up or roll it with a safety pin to hold it in place? Do you have any idea how funny the thought of a tiny leg is to me? I'm practically pissing myself over here! :blob1: <---like this guy!
It's funny to me, too, that's why I said it... :laugh: I hate that blob guy, by the way. :] <====== this guy just slapped the blob you used.
I just cut the nylons. I actually have a skinny cart with wheels on the bottom that attaches to the leg. It's like I"m always wearing one skate....

all the same
03-22-2005, 03:03 PM
It's funny to me, too, that's why I said it... :laugh: I hate that blob guy, by the way. :] <====== this guy just slapped the blob you used.
I just cut the nylons. I actually have a skinny cart with wheels on the bottom that attaches to the leg. It's like I"m always wearing one skate....

There is no denying, Amber is definitely crafty! So, do you have toes on the gimpy leg, or what? Do you just paint the skin with nailpolish?

ChrystalGypsey
03-22-2005, 03:14 PM
[QUOTE=PenguinHead]:] This made me laugh...and laugh! Hi, fellow Oregonian! I'm in NE Portland, where are you? QUOTE]

I'm in Beaverton/Cedar Hills area!!! I work at Coldwell Banker here selling houses!!! Here's me: www.cbseal.com/christya

In my pic I'm wearing a Stevie-like costume for the 2003 tour...maybe I should update that pic????

sparky
03-22-2005, 03:18 PM
[QUOTE=PenguinHead]:] This made me laugh...and laugh! Hi, fellow Oregonian! I'm in NE Portland, where are you? QUOTE]

I'm in Beaverton/Cedar Hills area!!! I work at Coldwell Banker here selling houses!!! Here's me: www.cbseal.com/christya

In my pic I'm wearing a Stevie-like costume for the 2003 tour...maybe I should update that pic????

What a small Ledgie world. Portland native here, but transplanted to LA 12 years ago.

ChrystalGypsey
03-22-2005, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=ChrystalGypsey]

What a small Ledgie world. Portland native here, but transplanted to LA 12 years ago.


Too bad you're far away!!! I don't have any local concert buddies...

sparky
03-22-2005, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=sparky]


Too bad you're far away!!! I don't have any local concert buddies...

Actually, for SYW and TISL, I came up to PDX and took my syster and niece to the shows. During the SYW show, my niece, who is a die hard 17 year old punk rocker, kept saying during Lindsey's songs, "Isn't this guy done yet ? I came here to see Stevie." I take no responsibility for that !

The Tower
03-22-2005, 03:53 PM
I think that's tied with how much of "Thousand Days" is borrowed..no, STOLEN from "Whole Lotta Trouble." I think "WLT" is a much better song, but that's me.
Actually, I believe that "Thousand Days" was written before "Whole Lotta Trouble". WLT was written during the Tom Petty/Bob Dylan Australia tour and I think 1000 Days is from 1984 and the RAL sessions.

ChrystalGypsey
03-22-2005, 04:07 PM
[QUOTE=ChrystalGypsey]

Actually, for SYW and TISL, I came up to PDX and took my syster and niece to the shows. During the SYW show, my niece, who is a die hard 17 year old punk rocker, kept saying during Lindsey's songs, "Isn't this guy done yet ? I came here to see Stevie." I take no responsibility for that !

My boyfriend won't go with me to the shows, but he's coming to Vegas. Are you going? (It probably says somewhere, but I dunno where).

GateandGarden
03-22-2005, 05:19 PM
Actually, I believe that "Thousand Days" was written before "Whole Lotta Trouble". WLT was written during the Tom Petty/Bob Dylan Australia tour and I think 1000 Days is from 1984 and the RAL sessions.Damn it! :laugh: I wanted it to be the other way around! :p :laugh:

ChrystalGypsey
03-22-2005, 06:52 PM
Wow Amber, you look absolutely stunning in that pic!!!!


This thread is hilarious, btw, it's had me in tears. The "stares at the stairs" line is the best. :laugh:

Better than "So she stairs at the stares...ooooh there are many things to stair at these days".......................

dissention
03-22-2005, 06:58 PM
Actually, I believe that "Thousand Days" was written before "Whole Lotta Trouble". WLT was written during the Tom Petty/Bob Dylan Australia tour and I think 1000 Days is from 1984 and the RAL sessions.

It's definitely from the RAL sessions, we have that torturous epic demo of it from that period.

The Tower
03-22-2005, 07:21 PM
It's definitely from the RAL sessions, we have that torturous epic demo of it from that period.
That and the fact that this line-

"But I like some kind of TIME/LIFE edition,
Tradition, competition...
Being the only thing that I really have to remember
The great singers and the great players"

appears on the back cover or RAL.

Didn't she incorporate the "great singers/great players" line into "Has Anyone Ever Written...." at the end of the song at some point? For some reason, I'm remembering it.

sweetgypsygirl
03-22-2005, 07:48 PM
Rhinestone collections all the time....I wonder what Greta would say?


Garbo...the whole song


The verses to Nightbird


(Still, I love them)

Garbo!! Are you kidding me? I love that song!!! Greta is a good song too! :(

PenguinHead
03-22-2005, 07:49 PM
[QUOTE=PenguinHead]:] This made me laugh...and laugh! Hi, fellow Oregonian! I'm in NE Portland, where are you? QUOTE]

I'm in Beaverton/Cedar Hills area!!! I work at Coldwell Banker here selling houses!!! Here's me: www.cbseal.com/christya

In my pic I'm wearing a Stevie-like costume for the 2003 tour...maybe I should update that pic????

Hey Christy, you look very familiar. Have you done any direct mail advertising, or had ads in local papers? I know I've seen your face before. By the way, you may have seen mine. I'm the "food court guy" in the Lloyd Center Mall advertising campaign...I've been in the Oregonian and on Billboards. I think I'm still on in-store kiosk displays.( I avoid malls!) I have a piece of spaghetti hanging from my mouth.

Isn't Oregon great? I love it here. I hope be in the market for a condo or house in a year from now. I'll look you up.

ejof17
03-23-2005, 07:51 PM
what about...

"oooh and your consistent,
hey, and that's good."

That's a clunker!

catinthedark
03-23-2005, 08:33 PM
Totally, and guess what song was going through my head this morning? Cat, I gotta thank you for that! :p

AAAAAK. I will forever feel bad about that. :sorry: That's just not nice.

But... to quote my favourite rocker...

"We're not nice!!!!"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

xxxmx
03-23-2005, 09:50 PM
too many quotes to quote, so here goes:

"unbraid with all the love that you have, like a soft silver chain"
personally, love the song and the imagery. my (ex)boyfriend used to braid my hair at night before bed when it was reeeeeally long so we wouldn't get tangled in it. it was such a beautiful and romantic gesture, i love that memory.

"the coastline is glittering like a diamond snake in a black sky"
from out at sea, when you look back at the city lights, with the reflection, it totally looks like, well i don't know if i would have called it a 'diamond snake,' but it could.

"yesterday i was fascinated by somebody else"
i love this lyric, very singable.

how about Rock A Little? that song is garbage. i love stevie, and i will defend her (occasionally ridiculous) lyrics, but RAL crosses lines that even Silver Girl and WTTR...Sara don't come close to. maybe it's the vocals that KILL the song for me. oh wait, add Desert Angel to the inner sanctum of crap. almost forgot.

all the same
03-25-2005, 03:39 AM
As much as I love Rhiannon, when she sings it live and says "Will you ever win? Wellllllll... I don't think you do!", that is a change of tense and it really isn't particularly good writing. But holy crap! Does it ever sound good! Listened to Rhiannon from the Rosebud Film and Live at the House of Blues in 1994 tonight. Nearly had a stoke they were both so good!

welcomechris
08-29-2014, 03:10 PM
"Can you write this for me?"
He says "No, you write your songs yourself"
That made me stronger
It made me hold on to me

from That Made Me Stronger

"What's faster then a fast car
A beating heart"

from Cheaper then Free

"Well, this is the first thing
That I've written
Since I wrote about freedom"

from Desert Angel

"Well, I talked to my famous friend last night
My third day up...well, his second nighter"

from Two Kinds Of Love

"Do not enter inside this circle
This man is sleeping"

from Stay Away

"They say your life is wild
Compared to what lifestyle?"

from Love Is Like A River

"A Charles Dickens character
With your top hat and your scarf
When you pull me through the rainbow
I thought you'd stop"

from Street Angel

MoonSister75
08-29-2014, 03:38 PM
^^^ Thanks for posting these welcomechris - they're hilarious :laugh::laugh:

Still, it just makes her more endearing...... :nod::o

PenguinHead
08-29-2014, 04:52 PM
Stevie is not the most intelligent writer, but she is a very emotionally vested writer. Her songs are like children to her; children who belong in the special needs classes.

I've learned to gloss over the inexplicable change of tenses, awkward phrases, odd or pedestrian word choices, over reliance on iterations, incomprehensible and oblique references, etc. I still find enjoyment in her music, including her most questionable songs and lyrics, especially if I don't analyze them too much.

I think one of her issues is her ego. Because she has so much conviction in what she writes, she doesn't edit herself; everything is too precious. And while I believe she has an artistic intelligence, I can't expect her to be cohesive writer. Just listen to the disjointed way in which she speaks; it's the same way she writes.

Rock music gives writers an allowance to twist and mangle language/syntax to a certain extent. Stevie, without even realizing it, takes full liberty of that allowance.
There is no one like Stevie, and this is one of the many reasons why.

To counter this thread, perhaps we should start a thread on lyrics, verses and phrases that highlight her brightest lyrical moments.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 06:59 PM
"I remember him
He was very young
No one spoke like him
He was someone"



I really don't see anything wrong with it.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:00 PM
"I am a cliff dweller, from the old school" is fairly bad, but it fits so well into the song that I have grown to love that line! :D

Actually many critics consider that to be a great line.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:04 PM
"It's just like a river, it's never ending" is pretty bad, as is the "you can't have him" stuff in EFO.

Ok, you selecting this is really baffling. Stevie is talking about the grief caused by 9/11, comparing it to a river, which, since it has no obvious beginning or end, "doesn't end."

Frankly I think "it's just like a river, it's never ending" is on par with U2's line "stuck in a moment you can't get out of"....both talk about the continuing reverbations of the 9/11 tragedy.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:07 PM
There's a line from ghosts that I don't make any sense out of:
of course I looked it up, and I was singing it wrong for years...that always happens-- you sing whatever lyrics you thing she's saying, although....

To feel the empty spaces she's feeling
She depends on her music like a husband

Makes little sense...why feel what she's already feeling?

Isn't the line actually "to fill the empty spaces she's feeling"?

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:22 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Even though I love The Blue Lamp (and make no mistake, I do LOVE this song) I find it a bit odd that she wrote a whole song about a lamp. I mean...it's a lamp...come on. Lamps are not interesting, they're not romantic, and I don't care if it's a Tiffany lamp, it's downright silly. Not to diss Stevie or anything but the lamp inspiration has always struck me as a bit strange.

If you take it THAT literally, my guess is you basically don't really get the song. The imagery is a blue lamp but obviously the song is actually about a breakup from someone, not a song about a lamp.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:23 PM
Flash in the pan? Hmmm....Natalie's been around for a while now and I don't think the Dixie Chicks are going anywhere any time soon so... :shrug:

Yeah. How in the hell is an artist with multiple platinum albums a "flash in the pan"?

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:28 PM
:laugh:

How's about the entire song Thousand Days? It makes me embarrassed.

Quiet now, songbird, just for one night
Well, I know that you love to sing
Oh, baby, well I know that you love to write
Well, you live by the light of the moon
I live by the light of desire
Oooh, says words to her over the phone
Just how many people are there with you now?

That song made question whether or not she was nucking futs.

So - you clearly don't know "Thousand Days" is about her friendship with Prince. What's crazy about about this lyric? I think it's pretty obvious that its in essence a translated conversation between her and Prince: "you love to sing", "you love to write", "you live by the light of the moon, I live by the light of desire". "Just how many people are there with you now?" probably was a direct quote of Prince, since he sometimes criticized her indulgent lifestyle.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 07:34 PM
"yesterday i was fascinated by somebody else"
i love this lyric, very singable.



I always liked that line too, from "Paper Doll," because basically its a one line indictment of how fickle the public can be. It's akin to the Eagle's line "There's a new kid in town".

tabruns
08-29-2014, 08:01 PM
I've found this thread baffling because most of the quoted lyrics actually aren't bad or embarrassing, and some of them are actually very good! It's confusing to me to see Nicks fans posting that seem to think everything she writes is trite. :shrug:

I've always figured Nicks lyrics are wordy and vague snapshots of what was happening in her life at the time. If you don't have the context, as most of the time we don't, I can see that sometimes they'd be baffling if you were trying to read them as being literal. So she's often verbose and not totally clear, but that doesn't mean she's bad.....somehow people still connect to her songs even though they're really basically personal mythology from her life.

The only lyrics of hers that I dislike (and not saying they are bad lyrics, just that I don't personally like them) are where she ties a song way too closely to a particular event/time. "Desert Angel" doesn't work for me because it's too specific. "Illume" and "Soldier's Angel" are better because the lyrics are disassociated enough to make them more universal. I can listen to the latter two anytime and connect with the loss and tragedy they are communicating; I listen to "Desert Angel" and the shout outs to "Operation Desert Angel!" at the end just totally blows it for me.

And many of her lines are really great:

He was singing, and undoing the laces...undoing the laces "Sara"
To survive the distance everyone fights...everyone fights...and the fire flies "Fireflies"
I've shaken your faith in me...No, you've shaken my faith in everything else "Thrown Down"
Must secret loves secretly die? "Secret Love"
Long nets of white cloud my memory "Rooms On Fire" (startling, when you consider she was basically subconsciously reflecting on what Klonopin was doing to her before she consciously realized it!)

tabruns
08-29-2014, 08:10 PM
Stevie is not the most intelligent writer, but she is a very emotionally vested writer. Her songs are like children to her; children who belong in the special needs classes.

I've learned to gloss over the inexplicable change of tenses, awkward phrases, odd or pedestrian word choices, over reliance on iterations, incomprehensible and oblique references, etc. I still find enjoyment in her music, including her most questionable songs and lyrics, especially if I don't analyze them too much.

I think one of her issues is her ego. Because she has so much conviction in what she writes, she doesn't edit herself; everything is too precious. And while I believe she has an artistic intelligence, I can't expect her to be cohesive writer. Just listen to the disjointed way in which she speaks; it's the same way she writes.

Rock music gives writers an allowance to twist and mangle language/syntax to a certain extent. Stevie, without even realizing it, takes full liberty of that allowance.
There is no one like Stevie, and this is one of the many reasons why.

To counter this thread, perhaps we should start a thread on lyrics, verses and phrases that highlight her brightest lyrical moments.

I agree with a lot of this. I think Nicks is something of an "Id" type writer....there's a lot of emotion coming out in her writing, and it can *seem* at first glance to be incomprehensible.

But let's take Lindsey's criticism of the verses in "Thrown Down". The first verse is third person, the second verse shifts to first person. It doesn't throw me off at all, because the effect (to me) is that Nicks basically steps closer to the listener and gets more personal in the second verse. In the first verse she's observing from a distance - "this happened, that happened", in the second verse she's confronting Lindsey directly. It would actually have detracted from the song to put all the verses in the same tense - Nicks' artistry comes through on it.

Jondalar
08-29-2014, 08:17 PM
I agree with a lot of this. I think Nicks is something of an "Id" type writer....there's a lot of emotion coming out in her writing, and it can *seem* at first glance to be incomprehensible.

But let's take Lindsey's criticism of the verses in "Thrown Down". The first verse is third person, the second verse shifts to first person. It doesn't throw me off at all, because the effect (to me) is that Nicks basically steps closer to the listener and gets more personal in the second verse. In the first verse she's observing from a distance - "this happened, that happened", in the second verse she's confronting Lindsey directly. It would actually have detracted from the song to put all the verses in the same tense - Nicks' artistry comes through on it.

Well it threw me off. Great production and I can't even listen to it because of the lyrics. She can't take any criticism from Lindsey no matter how truthful it is.

tabruns
08-29-2014, 08:18 PM
One song that I don't get, again not saying it's bad just that I don't understand it, is "Two Kinds of Love".

I've never understood from the song exactly what the "two kinds of love" actually are.....unless the line "estranged from each other for their very survival" is a hint. She says "the two of us...widow and the dove" so I think it's another "conversation I had with Prince" song, but this entire section:

Ooh the two of us
Estranged sometimes for their very survival
Outraged at each other
Engaged to each other in their hearts
but they live apart

...makes me think it has to be about Lindsey. So basically, a song relaying a conversation she had with Prince that included talking about her relationship with Lindsey. But I'm still not following what the "Two Kinds of Love" are.

sorcerer999
08-29-2014, 10:05 PM
"Touched By An Angel" has the cringe worthy..."Everything was the same, except that everything was different." I can understand where she's coming from, and I get what she's trying to say, but it just doesn't work, some how.

But she makes up for it by writing, "No one said a word, and that simply said it all" which is BRILLIANT!

bombaysaffires
08-30-2014, 01:26 AM
Isn't the line actually "to fill the empty spaces she's feeling"?

yes that's the line.

Although the song overall is a bit of a mess, I've always found it to be such a great insight into where she was in her life at the time… recalling all her romances and affairs and yet still ending up alone

to fill the empty spaces she's feeling
she depends on her music like a husband
and she knows it's not good to fall in love again
one day they were lovers
one day they were friends
and there was nothing else to say

michelej1
08-30-2014, 01:20 PM
Yeah. How in the hell is an artist with multiple platinum albums a "flash in the pan"?

It's hard to know where their career would be right now, had the political backlash never happened. I remember that overnight my radio station went from playing 2 Dixie Chicks songs an hour to playing NONE. It was more unsettling to me than if they'd started burning books at my local libraries.

Michele

PenguinHead
08-30-2014, 02:42 PM
Actually many critics consider that to be a great line.

I think that line is creative, intriguing and poetic. It's unique, thought-provoking and not pedestrian in any way.

teedeerocks
08-31-2014, 09:41 AM
She cried,she fell to the floor,one tear slid across her lips to the corner of her mouth,and dropped to the floor.You've got the softest lips,the touch of your fingertips........Geez Stevie.....it sounds like she's trying to play the game"How many body parts/functions can you fit into one song?"Her choice of words really embellish the emotion - NOT!
"I'll have 'human anatomy in songs' for 400 Alex".:laugh:
But.........you're still my girl Stevie:xoxo:

markolas
08-31-2014, 10:18 AM
You guys do realize that some of you are quoting people who haven't posted on The Ledge in 10 years, right?

I still miss dissention.

teedeerocks
08-31-2014, 10:25 AM
One song that I don't get, again not saying it's bad just that I don't understand it, is "Two Kinds of Love".

I've never understood from the song exactly what the "two kinds of love" actually are.....unless the line "estranged from each other for their very survival" is a hint. She says "the two of us...widow and the dove" so I think it's another "conversation I had with Prince" song, but this entire section:

Ooh the two of us
Estranged sometimes for their very survival
Outraged at each other
Engaged to each other in their hearts
but they live apart

...makes me think it has to be about Lindsey. So basically, a song relaying a conversation she had with Prince that included talking about her relationship with Lindsey. But I'm still not following what the "Two Kinds of Love" are.

Stevie once said in an interview that Two Kinds of Love means the sexual vs. the soulful,compassionate love that people feel for each other.
"One for the way you walk" - the sexual /checking out the bod things like the swaying hips or a certain bounce a person might have.

"One for the way you love me" - like holding someone's hand while they're crying or gently sweeping the hair back from someone's face or wiping a single tear from they're face in times of distress.

My take on "widow and dove" is basically War and Peace.Widow: A black widow spider kills her "partner" immediately after mating with them - WAR.Stevie has said that she and Lindsey were very passionate but that was IT.They were ready to kill each other after that.:mad:

Dove: signifies peace,harmony,and soulful love - compassion, not passion =PEACE.:xoxo::angel:

Any thoughts?

teedeerocks
08-31-2014, 11:08 AM
"What's warmer than a sun drenched land?,your hand,your hand - YIKES!!!

All of the lyrics to "Cheaper Than Free" - double YIKES!

What's sappier than an oak tree,Cheaper than Free!:laugh:

Having said that,I think Stevie and Dave sing it beautifully.

Still love ya babe.:xoxo::angel:

goldenground
08-31-2014, 07:44 PM
"They run from the one who hunts them, They drop to the forest floor...frozen" I hate the lyrical changes she made to this song. The obvious references to that horrible movie is clunky and takes away a little bit from what was a great song.

"Well the conversation rings inside my head, Well you know me better than I know myself, Can you write this for me? He says no you write your songs yourself"......Why is this the chorus? it's not an embarrassing line you can just ignore, it's repeated throughout the whole song lol

"So she stares at the stairs, ooh there are many things to stare at these days" LOL