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ThePenguin
03-15-2005, 09:10 AM
I have to ask, did anyone see last night's episode when the 9 yr old girl nearly suffocated the little boy w/ the pillow?! It almost made me nauseous to watch that, she could have killed him, she made him wet his pants!!!! And the camera people were just filming it??! How long would they wait before someone stepped in??? I was really floored by that whole scene.

anyway that is stuck in my head today.....

-Lis

SuzeQuze
03-15-2005, 10:12 AM
I have to ask, did anyone see last night's episode when the 9 yr old girl nearly suffocated the little boy w/ the pillow?! It almost made me nauseous to watch that, she could have killed him, she made him wet his pants!!!! And the camera people were just filming it??! How long would they wait before someone stepped in??? I was really floored by that whole scene.

anyway that is stuck in my head today.....

-Lis

No, I didn't see it. :distress: That is so horrible. How long was she holding it on him?

ThePenguin
03-15-2005, 10:24 AM
No, I didn't see it. :distress: That is so horrible. How long was she holding it on him?

Long enough so that the kid came up gasping for air and peed his pants. I dunno, I guess it was less than a minute, but still, it felt like forever. she was laying on top of him and had a big pillow smothering him. and then the poor kid went to tell his mom and of course she had no clue how serious the whole thing really was/could have been. Makes you worry about what your kids do when you aren't watching them (although i hope my daughter would never do that to my son!!!)

-Lis

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 11:24 AM
I have to ask, did anyone see last night's episode when the 9 yr old girl nearly suffocated the little boy w/ the pillow?! It almost made me nauseous to watch that, she could have killed him, she made him wet his pants!!!! And the camera people were just filming it??! How long would they wait before someone stepped in??? I was really floored by that whole scene.

anyway that is stuck in my head today.....


Hi Lisa ~

I watched this, as I do most every week...I *love* that there are shows like this now where these nannies are teaching families how to do what we assume everyone already knows how to do...raise children! You don't have to be mean, but you DO have to have authority, respect, and order...I'm a strong believer in that. I was floored by the pillow-thing, too, and I was about to loose it at that mother, who was in total denial, BIG time. And I didn't think the Dad was all that great in the beginning, either...he didn't help her at all!

Did you find yourself almost getting up to take the damn pillow off that poor child's head, and take charge of the situation? I did, lol! I couldn't believe that camera crew just filmed that without saying anything...that *nobody* really even knew about it and how horrible that all could have ended up! Chris kept laughing at me because I was ready to climb into that TV and take charge!

Gypsy-Rhiannon
03-15-2005, 11:32 AM
They are showing Nanny 911 over here now but I have never watched it yet. Do you guys get Super Nanny? With Jo Frost?

Pip

GypsySorcerer
03-15-2005, 11:34 AM
They are showing Nanny 911 over here now but I have never watched it yet. Do you guys get Super Nanny? With Jo Frost?

Pip

Pip, SuperNanny is on here. I just watched Nanny 911 for the first time last night. I was traumatized. Both of those parents had attitude problems.

Gypsy-Rhiannon
03-15-2005, 11:40 AM
Pip, SuperNanny is on here. I just watched Nanny 911 for the first time last night. I was traumatized. Both of those parents had attitude problems.
I'll try to catch it. I know it is on here. I did watch Super Nanny when it was on and I cannot believe how some parents have zero control over their children. The changes by the end of the program were remarkable

Pip

wondergirl9847
03-15-2005, 12:01 PM
I couldn't believe they didn't intervene in that, but I'm sure the camera people are told not to. :mad: If he wet himself, he truly WAS breathless and scared out of his mind. He was gasping and could barely talk!! The mom made me mad too with her stubborness, but I knew she'd act that way at first, because the Nanny was threatening her parenting. Thank God she got the family acting different.

I am SOOOOOOOO (infinity) glad I'm an only child. :laugh: I can't even IMAGINE if my sister/brother tried to suffocate me...my cousin's used to tease me and pick on me, but nothing like that. :distress:

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 12:01 PM
Pip, SuperNanny is on here. I just watched Nanny 911 for the first time last night. I was traumatized. Both of those parents had attitude problems.

I agree, and I don't think people realize ~ even I didn't, to the full extent ~ how the attitude and problems the parents have effect their children. That is totally appearant by the way the children changed, once the behaviour of the parents changed. People don't realize how they make or break a child...in every respect...and the effects are life-long. It scares me to death sometimes...

ThePenguin
03-15-2005, 12:15 PM
Hi Lisa ~

I watched this, as I do most every week...I *love* that there are shows like this now where these nannies are teaching families how to do what we assume everyone already knows how to do...raise children! You don't have to be mean, but you DO have to have authority, respect, and order...I'm a strong believer in that. I was floored by the pillow-thing, too, and I was about to loose it at that mother, who was in total denial, BIG time. And I didn't think the Dad was all that great in the beginning, either...he didn't help her at all!

Did you find yourself almost getting up to take the damn pillow off that poor child's head, and take charge of the situation? I did, lol! I couldn't believe that camera crew just filmed that without saying anything...that *nobody* really even knew about it and how horrible that all could have ended up! Chris kept laughing at me because I was ready to climb into that TV and take charge! :laugh:

I actually rewound the Tivo to watch it again, I just could not believe what I was seeing. I kept repeating 'Oh my God!' My heart was in my throat, that was really so upsetting to watch.

I love these shows because they make me feel like maybe I'm not such a bad mom after all LOL, and you do learn something. I love Jo Frost, I think I prefer Supernanny to Nanny 911, although Nanny Deb is quite effective also. She seems to be the one Nanny 911 uses the most.

It amazes me how many people allow their kids to hit them, and also just cannot get their children to bed. typical exchange--


Parent: it's nearly midnight, sweetie, are you ready for bed? can we turn off the TV?
snotty child: NO!
Parent: oh... ok...but mommy is so tired....

GIVE ME A &%$# BREAK!!

And those kids that come out of their room 50 times at night-- if they were my kids, I'd have a lock on that door so quick their head would spin. My daughter went thru a brief phase of that when she was 3 and switched from the crib to a bed-- after trying a few nights of nice loving 'it's bedtime, stay in your bed' blah blah blah I was getting royally frustrated. Finding her down in the playroom at 2 AM, about to put on the TV, was my last straw. I finally put a little hook and eye latch on her door, and after 2 nights of her rattling that thing, she stayed in her bed every night since. maybe that sounds cruel, but I don't think so, nighttime is for sleeping kiddo, and mama don't play. :p

-Lis (mom to 2 kids who are in bed promptly by 8 every night!)

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 12:53 PM
I agree ~ one of my friends once asked me how to get her daughter to brush her teeth before bed without a struggle. I told her it shouldn't be a struggle, because certain things are not an option, and not negotionable. Such things include brushing your teeth, making your bed, showering/bathing, getting dressed, helping keep the house/their room neat, etc. These are more than chores ~ they are what I call 'life skills.' They grow up and they leave your house, and they need to have skills to survive and go through life properly. These, in my opinion, should be taught from the get-go! They are not an option, and if kids are raised knowing that, it's not even an issue, because it's all they've ever known and that's that. And I believe kids like that boundary; I think it's a secure feeling for them, knowing that the parents are in charge of things and knowing how far they can go. My girls are spoiled rotten :) ~ but they also know they are not the boss and I try really hard to make sure they will be as prepared as I can prepare them, for when they leave someday to be on their own.

DrummerDeanna
03-15-2005, 01:08 PM
I agree ~ one of my friends once asked me how to get her daughter to brush her teeth before bed without a struggle. I told her it shouldn't be a struggle, because certain things are not an option, and not negotionable. Such things include brushing your teeth, making your bed, showering/bathing, getting dressed, helping keep the house/their room neat, etc. These are more than chores ~ they are what I call 'life skills.' They grow up and they leave your house, and they need to have skills to survive and go through life properly. These, in my opinion, should be taught from the get-go! They are not an option, and if kids are raised knowing that, it's not even an issue, because it's all they've ever known and that's that. And I believe kids like that boundary; I think it's a secure feeling for them, knowing that the parents are in charge of things and knowing how far they can go. My girls are spoiled rotten :) ~ but they also know they are not the boss and I try really hard to make sure they will be as prepared as I can prepare them, for when they leave someday to be on their own.


Great post :thumbsup: I have no children - but I was my nephew's nanny for a year and a half :D

And yes, from the get-go it was established who was in charge in the household (parents) and that certain things are just what one has to do...he's five and a half now - and granted I"m a bit biased...but he's a good kid.

The one time he tried yelling at his parents - he quickly learned what a bad idea that is lol....and from the moment he could talk he was taught please and thank you and excuse me lol....anyway....um before I start completely rambling....I liked your post :D

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Great post :thumbsup: I have no children - but I was my nephew's nanny for a year and a half :D

And yes, from the get-go it was established who was in charge in the household (parents) and that certain things are just what one has to do...he's five and a half now - and granted I"m a bit biased...but he's a good kid.

The one time he tried yelling at his parents - he quickly learned what a bad idea that is lol....and from the moment he could talk he was taught please and thank you and excuse me lol....anyway....um before I start completely rambling....I liked your post :D

Thank you, and I'm so glad you brought up how your nephew was taught manners, as that's another area I think kids are not getting exposed to properly...it's a rare thing these days. I always have used 'please, thank you, etc.' with my girls, and I remember one day when my daughter Rhiannon was around three years old, we were in an appliance store, buying a new fridge...Rhiannon walked away from my husband and I to look around (and possibly explore buttons she shouldn't, lol), and I said, 'Rhiannon, come here, please.' and Rhiannon returned to our side. The man behind the counter about died. He said, 'I can't believe how nicely you said that to your daughter, and she responded so well!' I was shocked that he was shocked, as I couldn't see it being done any differently. I've always used manners with my girls, so they have learned them, but also with a tone in my voice where they know me and their Dad are the bosses. :)

SuzeQuze
03-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Great post :thumbsup: I have no children - but I was my nephew's nanny for a year and a half :D

And yes, from the get-go it was established who was in charge in the household (parents) and that certain things are just what one has to do...he's five and a half now - and granted I"m a bit biased...but he's a good kid.

The one time he tried yelling at his parents - he quickly learned what a bad idea that is lol....and from the moment he could talk he was taught please and thank you and excuse me lol....anyway....um before I start completely rambling....I liked your post :D

Me too. And it is true, kids really need structure. When they push and push and find no limits they do not feel safe.

I thought that it was only seconds that the kid smothered his sister with the pillow for. But almost a minute? That's insane. If anything serious happened to that kid those camera men would have been in deep sh*t.

wondergirl9847
03-15-2005, 01:21 PM
Kids need to be taught skills to make it when they grow up or they are SCREWED. I don't see how kids make it through life without reading, much less not knowing how to do laundry, cook a simple meal, know basic tools like hammers, flathead screwdriver versus phillips head. I mean, sheesh!

Parents need to be an example to their kids, if you clean and keep your house up, they will follow that. Be kind to people and they will to. Although, there are exceptions, but for the most part, it's true. A child's best teacher is their parents. :) Also, make housecleaning fun for kids, perhaps a race to see who can clean the fastest and does the best job.

I don't even have kids or really want them, but I was raised right. :nod:

DrummerDeanna
03-15-2005, 01:22 PM
Thank you, and I'm so glad you brought up how your nephew was taught manners, as that's another area I think kids are not getting exposed to properly...it's a rare thing these days. I always have used 'please, thank you, etc.' with my girls, and I remember one day when my daughter Rhiannon was around three years old, we were in an appliance store, buying a new fridge...Rhiannon walked away from my husband and I to look around (and possibly explore buttons she shouldn't, lol), and I said, 'Rhiannon, come here, please.' and Rhiannon returned to our side. The man behind the counter about died. He said, 'I can't believe how nicely you said that to your daughter, and she responded so well!' I was shocked that he was shocked, as I couldn't see it being done any differently. I've always used manners with my girls, so they have learned them, but also with a tone in my voice where they know me and their Dad are the bosses. :)


:nod: that's awesome...it bugs me to no end in a store or something when a random kid bumps into me - and doesn't say anything....or GOES THROUGH MY BASKET...and their parents do nothing :shrug: I don't get it :shrug:

People are always impressed with my nephew - he's just hilarious - he's a little man.....not shy of adults at all - I was at a butterfly pavilion with him - and he marched right up to one of the employees and said, "Um - excuse me - but can you tell me if you have any Luna Moths?" The lady stared at him for a second and they proceeded to have a lovely little conversation about Luna Moths.....it was hilarious....and he kindly thanked her and we went on our way lol....

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 01:32 PM
:nod: that's awesome...it bugs me to no end in a store or something when a random kid bumps into me - and doesn't say anything....or GOES THROUGH MY BASKET...and their parents do nothing :shrug: I don't get it :shrug:

People are always impressed with my nephew - he's just hilarious - he's a little man.....not shy of adults at all - I was at a butterfly pavilion with him - and he marched right up to one of the employees and said, "Um - excuse me - but can you tell me if you have any Luna Moths?" The lady stared at him for a second and they proceeded to have a lovely little conversation about Luna Moths.....it was hilarious....and he kindly thanked her and we went on our way lol....

They go through your basket? Good grief! I've not had that one happen before, but I have had them bump into me, as you were saying, and thinking nothing of it.

Your nephew sounds like an adorable little boy! I think the story of him at the butterfly pavilion is so cool. My daughter Lauren is 7 years old, and she cracks us up all the time, as she uses really big words (and knows what they mean!) and talks like an adult ~ it blows us away. Her and Rhiannon were watching TV recently, and Rhiannon was clicking a hair-clip between her fingers...without even realizing it...and Lauren looked at her and asked, 'Is that really necessary for you to do? It's quite annoying.' Rhiannon was even laughing! :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
03-15-2005, 01:46 PM
They go through your basket? Good grief! I've not had that one happen before, but I have had them bump into me, as you were saying, and thinking nothing of it.

Your nephew sounds like an adorable little boy! I think the story of him at the butterfly pavilion is so cool. My daughter Lauren is 7 years old, and she cracks us up all the time, as she uses really big words (and knows what they mean!) and talks like an adult ~ it blows us away. Her and Rhiannon were watching TV recently, and Rhiannon was clicking a hair-clip between her fingers...without even realizing it...and Lauren looked at her and asked, 'Is that really necessary for you to do? It's quite annoying.' Rhiannon was even laughing! :laugh:


:laugh: that is awesome - that's exactly what my nephew does...and it always just blows us away....my favorite was - my brother in law was reading a Sunday paper during election season - and my nephew was looking at the front page (mind you - he's 5) - he goes, "huh" and my brother in law says, "what son..."

And the kid goes on..."well I see that John Kerry is ahead in the polls and President Bush is behind, would you like to hear my hypothesis?"

My sister and Bro-in-law stared at him in awe and then my nephew said, "do you know what a hypothesis is?" lol...they assured him that they did but he felt it necessary to explain it to them anyway :rolleyes: He CRACKS me up....

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And yeah - twice now I've had random children going through my shopping carts...in line...then one of them started dancning and singing loudly...bumbing into people and things....the mother said nothing - at all...then one of her other kids went to a Pepsi cooler and repeadetly opened and slammed the door shut - mother? Said nothing :mad:

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 02:08 PM
:laugh: that is awesome - that's exactly what my nephew does...and it always just blows us away....my favorite was - my brother in law was reading a Sunday paper during election season - and my nephew was looking at the front page (mind you - he's 5) - he goes, "huh" and my brother in law says, "what son..."

And the kid goes on..."well I see that John Kerry is ahead in the polls and President Bush is behind, would you like to hear my hypothesis?"

My sister and Bro-in-law stared at him in awe and then my nephew said, "do you know what a hypothesis is?" lol...they assured him that they did but he felt it necessary to explain it to them anyway :rolleyes: He CRACKS me up....

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And yeah - twice now I've had random children going through my shopping carts...in line...then one of them started dancning and singing loudly...bumbing into people and things....the mother said nothing - at all...then one of her other kids went to a Pepsi cooler and repeadetly opened and slammed the door shut - mother? Said nothing :mad:

That is so funny! Your nephew is going to wow the world :nod:

Oh yes, the store is always a lovely place to witness these things, isn't it? What's even more scary is imagining what they do at home, if they are allowed to behave like that in stores and out in public! Yikes.

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Kids need to be taught skills to make it when they grow up or they are SCREWED. I don't see how kids make it through life without reading, much less not knowing how to do laundry, cook a simple meal, know basic tools like hammers, flathead screwdriver versus phillips head. I mean, sheesh!

Parents need to be an example to their kids, if you clean and keep your house up, they will follow that. Be kind to people and they will to. Although, there are exceptions, but for the most part, it's true. A child's best teacher is their parents. :) Also, make housecleaning fun for kids, perhaps a race to see who can clean the fastest and does the best job.

I don't even have kids or really want them, but I was raised right. :nod:

Amen to that! And I agree...you most definitely were raised right. :thumbsup:

CrystalVisions
03-15-2005, 02:17 PM
I thought that it was only seconds that the kid smothered his sister with the pillow for. But almost a minute? That's insane. If anything serious happened to that kid those camera men would have been in deep sh*t.

The time kept passing and passing...like an eternity...and as the camera got closer and closer to the children, I thought, 'they're going to do something, aren't they?' and they didn't...I was practically holding my breath until I saw the poor boy finally come up. But he couldn't hardly breathe ~ it was just horrible.

Merf
03-15-2005, 05:38 PM
I think Nanny 911 (just like the other FOX shows they ripped off from other networks) is nothing but pure trash. I LOVE "Super Nanny" with Jo Frost, she is just wonderful. I can't believe the progress she makes in just a couple of weeks with those kids. I know it's probably heavily edited, but it's really amazing and inspiring. If I had my own kids I would definitely be buying her book because she definitely seems to know her stuff.