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DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:23 PM
LOL....so um....this morning I got ready - washed my face - moisturized - put on my makeup (I wear very little - I like to keep it natural and simple)

Anyway - I got into my car - looked into the mirror and notice this big as wrinkle thing - like the diagonal line things that extend from the nose the corner of the mouth....and in between my eye brows - looked older - well I freaked out....

So um you're like the moisturizer face product guru it seems.....I need advice here......this has me a bit freaked out today......


And anyone else with a good product tip - please chime in...

BTW - I can't do chemical peels or anything that could scar because my skin scars WAY easy - and extreme things like that never completely heal - so I'd look horrible permanently....

amber
03-01-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm not Dissention, but you better start wearing sunscreen every day, if you don't already. In addition to whatever fabulous cream he recommends. Most skin damage is from the sun. :D

skcin
03-01-2005, 12:35 PM
Most skin damage is from the sun. :D


Yeah. That and smoking. ;) :xoxo:

Seriously, I saw that line on my face about a year ago - I was like "where the hell did THAT come from?!?!" I think it's cuz I tend to stress out at work & furrow my brows, creating a permanent wrinkle there. :eek:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:35 PM
I'm not Dissention, but you better start wearing sunscreen every day, if you don't already. In addition to whatever fabulous cream he recommends. Most skin damage is from the sun. :D

I do wear a sun screen everyday - well my daily moisturizer includes sun block - it has since I was 15 :distress:

I am also drinking more water....lol....I'm totally freaking out over these little wrinkles...I'm only 25 dammit!!!

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:38 PM
Yeah. That and smoking. ;) :xoxo:

Seriously, I saw that line on my face about a year ago - I was like "where the hell did THAT come from?!?!" I think it's cuz I tend to stress out at work & furrow my brows, creating a permanent wrinkle there. :eek:


That was my reaction - I was like WTF!?! lol....

I don't smoke....but I guess I do stress about things way more than I should...stupid stress...it's already causing backaches..now wrinkles too...:distress:

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 12:39 PM
I do wear a sun screen everyday - well my daily moisturizer includes sun block - it has since I was 15 :distress:

I am also drinking more water....lol....I'm totally freaking out over these little wrinkles...I'm only 25 dammit!!!

So I can guarantee you are the only one who sees them. Just keep your stress levels down, get your rest, and the sunscreen and water already mentioned. I just got a good night cream because I am 33 so it is time for me to start bending over for the cosmetics companies! I think that a really good night cream could do wonders since you sleep for like 8 hours so over time that is a long time to have your skin completely protected!

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 12:41 PM
That was my reaction - I was like WTF!?! lol....

I don't smoke....but I guess I do stress about things way more than I should...stupid stress...it's already causing backaches..now wrinkles too...:distress:

Hmm, try the book "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff". This helped me get perspective on my worries. It is also very simple to read so your harried brain can absorb it!

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:43 PM
So I can guarantee you are the only one who sees them. Just keep your stress levels down, get your rest, and the sunscreen and water already mentioned. I just got a good night cream because I am 33 so it is time for me to start bending over for the cosmetics companies! I think that a really good night cream could do wonders since you sleep for like 8 hours so over time that is a long time to have your skin completely protected!


Yeah - I was watching tv and saw some commercials for a night cream and was like..."great - I'm caving to the tv advertisements...." :laugh: BUT - I was planning on going to the store tonight to look at night creams lol....guess it's time to start....

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:44 PM
OH and as for stress....Clancy has actually been a HUGE help - I get to walk her - and just petting her calms me - and she LOVES to be pet....a lot....all the time lol....so there is that....:)

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 12:46 PM
OH and as for stress....Clancy has actually been a HUGE help - I get to walk her - and just petting her calms me - and she LOVES to be pet....a lot....all the time lol....so there is that....:)

Right, pets are wonderful for that. :) Mufasa always brings me right back to the present moment and into a loving frame of mind. I'm so glad you got Clancy. :D

ontheEdgeof17
03-01-2005, 12:47 PM
Yeah - I was watching tv and saw some commercials for a night cream and was like..."great - I'm caving to the tv advertisements...." :laugh: BUT - I was planning on going to the store tonight to look at night creams lol....guess it's time to start....


Your face in the car mirror looks worse than it really is. I know that experience. I look in the mirror on the way to class and see something, but when I look in the bathroom mirror, it is not there. I don't get it. :shrug:

dissention
03-01-2005, 12:49 PM
LOL....so um....this morning I got ready - washed my face - moisturized - put on my makeup (I wear very little - I like to keep it natural and simple)

Anyway - I got into my car - looked into the mirror and notice this big as wrinkle thing - like the diagonal line things that extend from the nose the corner of the mouth....and in between my eye brows - looked older - well I freaked out....

So um you're like the moisturizer face product guru it seems.....I need advice here......this has me a bit freaked out today......


And anyone else with a good product tip - please chime in...

BTW - I can't do chemical peels or anything that could scar because my skin scars WAY easy - and extreme things like that never completely heal - so I'd look horrible permanently....

:laugh:

Run to the nearest store and get any Roc product. I swear by them. :nod: They have a new one out that has silicon in it to "fill in" the lines and the skin firmer is fab, too. And they smell great!

If oyu feel like spending a little more cash, get some Serious Skin Care from the Home Shopping Network. That **** works like a charm for any skin problem.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:50 PM
:laugh:

Run to the nearest store and get any Roc product. I swear by them. :nod: They have a new one out that has silicon in it to "fill in" the lines and the skin firmer is fab, too. And they smell great!

If oyu feel like spending a little more cash, get some Serious Skin Care from the Home Shopping Network. That **** works like a charm for any skin problem.

Oh right. You recomened ROC once before and I don't know why I didn't listen lol.....I'll run out the CVS tonight :nod:

amber
03-01-2005, 12:53 PM
I do wear a sun screen everyday - well my daily moisturizer includes sun block - it has since I was 15 :distress:

I am also drinking more water....lol....I'm totally freaking out over these little wrinkles...I'm only 25 dammit!!!
Yoga........

dissention
03-01-2005, 12:53 PM
:lol: :lol: I'm cracking up at the thought of Josh behind the beauty counter sitting cross-legged wearing some kind of turban with exotic bottles of moisturiser balanced on each hand.

Anyway, I think you should try Vaseline Intensive Care. It's cheap but effective IMO.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

amber
03-01-2005, 12:54 PM
:lol: :lol: I'm cracking up at the thought of Josh behind the beauty counter sitting cross-legged wearing some kind of turban with exotic bottles of moisturiser balanced on each hand.

Anyway, I think you should try Vaseline Intensive Care. It's cheap but effective IMO.
:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:
Yes!
Also, Deanna, if you want to buy La Mer, I've been hearing it's the skin scream for celebs! :D

dissention
03-01-2005, 12:56 PM
:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:
Yes!
Also, Deanna, if you want to buy La Mer, I've been hearing it's the skin scream for celebs! :D

Haven't you seen the bad pics of celebs thread? I wouldn't take skin care advice from them! :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 12:58 PM
Haven't you seen the bad pics of celebs thread? I wouldn't take skin care advice from them! :laugh:

Seriously :laugh:

I actually haven't heard of La Mer....wait - isn't that was Lori said Stevie uses in the Q & A??

I think I'll give ROC a try first - as well as some sort of night cream....*sigh* there goes another chunk of my money.....

I also swore I'd never wear makeup - but that ended up not working out for :distress:

amber
03-01-2005, 01:02 PM
Seriously :laugh:

I actually haven't heard of La Mer....wait - isn't that was Lori said Stevie uses in the Q & A??

I think I'll give ROC a try first - as well as some sort of night cream....*sigh* there goes another chunk of my money.....

I also swore I'd never wear makeup - but that ended up not working out for :distress:
Good luck! I just got a little line from DHC that works well for me. It's all Olive oil based, which is great for your skin. It was like, $75, though. :shocked:
and maybe, if your moisturizer only has spf 15, you should crank it up a notch and get some real sunscreen. :) 45.

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:04 PM
LOL....so um....this morning I got ready - washed my face - moisturized - put on my makeup (I wear very little - I like to keep it natural and simple)

Anyway - I got into my car - looked into the mirror and notice this big as wrinkle thing - like the diagonal line things that extend from the nose the corner of the mouth....and in between my eye brows - looked older - well I freaked out....

So um you're like the moisturizer face product guru it seems.....I need advice here......this has me a bit freaked out today......


And anyone else with a good product tip - please chime in...

BTW - I can't do chemical peels or anything that could scar because my skin scars WAY easy - and extreme things like that never completely heal - so I'd look horrible permanently....

Botox. :) :nod:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:04 PM
My advice to avoid winkles is simply: stay out of the sun!!!
No natural tan but you'll be thankful later.

Well - I'm Hispanic so I do have a natural tan :p

But I don't spend too much time in the sun....especially anymore - since there is no sun in Rochester lol....

And Amber - what's DHC?

I will spend a chunk after March - right now I have to be somewhat frugal because my sister and I are taking my grandma to New York City in a couple of weeks....

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:05 PM
Good luck! I just got a little line from DHC that works well for me. It's all Olive oil based, which is great for your skin. It was like, $75, though. :shocked:
and maybe, if your moisturizer only has spf 15, you should crank it up a notch and get some real sunscreen. :) 45.

I got an Olive Oil line from Serious Skin Care for about $80 last month but I don't like it at all. I'm not a fan of oily products and while this isn't too oily, it's too much for my skin.

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:06 PM
Botox. :) :nod:

:laugh:

I'll try anything once, but needles make me cry like a baby. I'm petrified of them!

amber
03-01-2005, 01:06 PM
Well - I'm Hispanic so I do have a natural tan :p

But I don't spend too much time in the sun....especially anymore - since there is no sun in Rochester lol....

And Amber - what's DHC?

I will spend a chunk after March - right now I have to be somewhat frugal because my sister and I are taking my grandma to New York City in a couple of weeks....
www.dhccare.com
"The vision behind DHC is rooted in the restorative properties of olive oil. Found to be one of nature's finest ingredients for helping women achieve and maintain healthy, younger-looking skin, olive oil became the foundation for DHC's full line of skin-gentle products."
Blah, blah. I just noticed it made my skin look very nice. :shrug: Well, as nice as my skin can look, anyways. :laugh:

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:08 PM
Seriously :laugh:

I actually haven't heard of La Mer....wait - isn't that was Lori said Stevie uses in the Q & A??

I think I'll give ROC a try first - as well as some sort of night cream....*sigh* there goes another chunk of my money.....

I also swore I'd never wear makeup - but that ended up not working out for :distress:

Roc is way less expensive than La Mer. Also, you might want to look into Retin-A. It packs a little more punch than ROC and is available only by prescription. Any dermatologist or plastic surgeon's office will carry it and it is only like 20-25$ a tube.

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:09 PM
:laugh:

I'll try anything once, but needles make me cry like a baby. I'm petrified of them!

It doesn't hurt at all and they don't use those huge needles like they do for collagen.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:10 PM
www.dhccare.com
"The vision behind DHC is rooted in the restorative properties of olive oil. Found to be one of nature's finest ingredients for helping women achieve and maintain healthy, younger-looking skin, olive oil became the foundation for DHC's full line of skin-gentle products."
Blah, blah. I just noticed it made my skin look very nice. :shrug:

I'm waiting for Spring/Summer to kick in then my natural oils will come back - my skin has been dry here this winter - hence the large amount of moisturizer...

*sigh* Had I stayed put I'd still have pretty skin lol....now I've got some blemishes and a couple of dark spots I can't get rid of - it's so depressing....

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:12 PM
I'm waiting for Spring/Summer to kick in then my natural oils will come back - my skin has been dry here this winter - hence the large amount of moisturizer...

*sigh* Had I stayed put I'd still have pretty skin lol....now I've got some blemishes and a couple of dark spots I can't get rid of - it's so depressing....

Obagi blending cream can help with that. I think Kinerase does too.

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:13 PM
It doesn't hurt at all and they don't use those huge needles like they do for collagen.

I don't know, I was in hysterics when I had saline put in my lip and that needle wasn't too big. They numbed it, but I could still feel it and wept for what seemed like forever. :laugh: I think it's more of a psychological thing, though. Needles of any kind just make me lose it.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:13 PM
Obagi blending cream can help with that. I think Kinerase does too.

Wow - I need to do my research - I've never heard of these projects :laugh:

Up until like last year I was the most low-maintenence non girly girl ever - no makeup no real skin care regiment...apparantly I'm paying for it now.

ontheEdgeof17
03-01-2005, 01:14 PM
*sigh* Had I stayed put I'd still have pretty skin lol....now I've got some blemishes and a couple of dark spots I can't get rid of - it's so depressing....

Mederma will get rid of the dark spots. It's to get rid of scars and remains from acne/zits. I had a few dark spots on my face and they are gone now. Mederma works wonders for surgery scars, too.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Mederma will get rid of the dark spots. It's to get rid of scars and remains from acne/zits. I had a few dark spots on my face and they are gone now. Mederma works wonders for surgery scars, too.


oooh - I've heard of that - can you get it anywhere??

cliffdweller
03-01-2005, 01:16 PM
I got an Olive Oil line from Serious Skin Care for about $80 last month but I don't like it at all. I'm not a fan of oily products and while this isn't too oily, it's too much for my skin.

Me neither 'cuz they cause me to break out. Even Clean & Clear oil-free moisturizer causes me to break out! Does anyone know of a good oil-free moisturizer or skin care line (firmers, anit-wrinkel, etc..) that won't cause break outs? Any skin cream with oil in it is a no-no for me.

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:16 PM
oooh - I've heard of that - can you get it anywhere??

CVS. :wavey: It's just under $20.

ontheEdgeof17
03-01-2005, 01:18 PM
oooh - I've heard of that - can you get it anywhere??


Drug stores. It's expensive, but it works. Don't put it on zits....just on scars and stuff like that. I had a scar on my back and after about two months, it disappeared.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:18 PM
CVS. :wavey: It's just under $20.

:blob1: looks like I"ll be dropping some change there tonight :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:19 PM
Me neither 'cuz they cause me to break out. Even Clean & Clear oil-free moisturizer causes me to break out! Does anyone know of a good oil-free moisturizer or skin care line (firmers, anit-wrinkel, etc..) that won't cause break outs? Any skin cream with oil in it is a no-no for me.


Well I'm the one asking for advice lol - so take this with a grain of salt - but I've tried all sorts of moisturizers - and the one I finally found that helped my dry skin and caused no breakouts was Dove...I ALWAYS use oil free moisturizers :D

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:20 PM
Me neither 'cuz they cause me to break out. Even Clean & Clear oil-free moisturizer causes me to break out! Does anyone know of a good oil-free moisturizer or skin care line (firmers, anit-wrinkel, etc..) that won't cause break outs? Any skin cream with oil in it is a no-no for me.

Roc, for one. I'm telling ya, that stuff is the best if you want to firm your skin. I use it on my neck, too, to prevent chicken neck. :laugh:

Serious Skin Care come sin kits that are tailored to your skin type. And the amount of stuff they have is just jaw-dropping. There's this one product called Dry-Lo for when you get a random zit and want to get rid of it ASAP. It's like this mud on the bottom of a jar filled with alcohol, you dab it on, and the zit is gone by morning.

Also, if you don't want to spend any cash, wash your face with honey every night. That'll firm up your skin and keep it very healthy.

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 01:20 PM
I don't know, I was in hysterics when I had saline put in my lip and that needle wasn't too big. They numbed it, but I could still feel it and wept for what seemed like forever. :laugh: I think it's more of a psychological thing, though. Needles of any kind just make me lose it.
Wow. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Was it really that traumatising? :shocked:

cliffdweller
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Roc, for one. I'm telling ya, that stuff is the best if you want to firm your skin. I use it on my neck, too, to prevent chicken neck. :laugh:

Serious Skin Care come sin kits that are tailored to your skin type. And the amount of stuff they have is just jaw-dropping. There's this one product called Dry-Lo for when you get a random zit and want to get rid of it ASAP. It's like this mud on the bottom of a jar filled with alcohol, you dab it on, and the zit is gone by morning.

Also, if you don't want to spend any cash, wash your face with honey every night. That'll firm up your skin and keep it very healthy.

Honey? Never woulda thunk it. Interesting...I'll have to try it.

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
Wow. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Was it really that traumatising? :shocked:

Needles are my #1 fear. When I was five, I had to be strapped down at the doctor's office in order to get my shots for school because I was so terrified. Ever since then, that's it. I cry and scream every time. :laugh:

cliffdweller
03-01-2005, 01:23 PM
Well I'm the one asking for advice lol - so take this with a grain of salt - but I've tried all sorts of moisturizers - and the one I finally found that helped my dry skin and caused no breakouts was Dove...I ALWAYS use oil free moisturizers :D

Cool. Dove. I'll make a mental note. Thanks! :thumbsup:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:24 PM
Needles are my #1 fear. When I was five, I had to be strapped down at the doctor's office in order to get my shots for school because I was so terrified. Ever since then, that's it. I cry and scream every time. :laugh:

Wow - I hate the thought of it - but like I just had blood drawn the other day - and it was an oddly pleasent experience - I barely felt anything at all :D

----

And honey? Never heard that one - I may give that a try :D

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:24 PM
Honey? Never woulda thunk it. Interesting...I'll have to try it.

Honey is good for getting rid of zits, too. Just dab some on the zit, put a band aid on it, and go to bed. It'll almost get rid of it by morning and will only have set you back a few pennies. :nod:

amber
03-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Needles are my #1 fear. When I was five, I had to be strapped down at the doctor's office in order to get my shots for school because I was so terrified. Ever since then, that's it. I cry and scream every time. :laugh:
Well, why aren't you scared of straps, just needles? ;)

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Honey is good for getting rid of zits, too. Just dab some on the zit, put a band aid on it, and go to bed. It'll almost get rid of it by morning and will only have set you back a few pennies. :nod:


Really!?! can this be true!?! Someone once told me to put toothpaste on zits - that did nothing at all...

Then my mom recomended I put eye drops on really red zits - again nothing...

I'm going to try the honey thing - and well - I've also got a problem with not leaving zits alone which angers them...and then I scar :(

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 01:26 PM
Needles are my #1 fear. When I was five, I had to be strapped down at the doctor's office in order to get my shots for school because I was so terrified. Ever since then, that's it. I cry and scream every time. :laugh:
I hate needles too, but I don't weep when I have to be stuck with one :lol:

cliffdweller
03-01-2005, 01:28 PM
Then my mom recomended I put eye drops on really red zits - again nothing...

I love her logic on this one. From red eyes to red zits! :laugh:

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 01:29 PM
Aren't you like 12 or something?
This had me rolling for some reason :lol: Some kind of impression you give off, eh Josh? :laugh: :lol:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:30 PM
I love her logic on this one. From red eyes to red zits! :laugh:

:laugh: Yep - that's my mom....I don't know where she gets some of her odd hints...they never seem to work either...she also has made up her own set of Church rules that she swears are real lol...we call them the Gospels according to Marie :p

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:31 PM
Really!?! can this be true!?! Someone once told me to put toothpaste on zits - that did nothing at all...

Then my mom recomended I put eye drops on really red zits - again nothing...

I'm going to try the honey thing - and well - I've also got a problem with not leaving zits alone which angers them...and then I scar :(

Toothpaste only works good if you get the natural ones with lots and lots of baking soda in it. It dries out the zits a lot. :nod: But you might as well just mix baking soda with water and dab it on. :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17
03-01-2005, 01:32 PM
I hate needles too, but I don't weep when I have to be stuck with one :lol:


I <3 needles. Giving injections is my favorite thing to do. :p

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:34 PM
why were you getting saline put in your lip? Aren't you like 12 or something?

No, not for another four years. :p

I was in a car accident a few years back and hit my face on the dashboard. :laugh: My lips got mangled and looked quite lopsided, so I had saline injected until it fully healed. And my insurance paid for it. :thumbsup:

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 01:34 PM
I <3 needles. Giving injections is my favorite thing to do. :p
Note to self: Do not ever go to WV hospitals. Especially if in need of injection or vaccination. Curtis may be there. :laugh: :xoxo:

The Tower
03-01-2005, 01:34 PM
I don't know, I was in hysterics when I had saline put in my lip and that needle wasn't too big.

Why saline? Is that anything like collagen??? If so, didja look like Barbara Hershey in Beaches, or Meg Ryan's current Bizzaro look?

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:35 PM
Hmmm, botox. I don't like the idea of injecting poison into my face.


I like living a little dangerously. :laugh: Juvena is available in the States. I think Sephora carries it.

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:37 PM
Why saline? Is that anything like collagen??? If so, didja look like Barbara Hershey in Beaches, or Meg Ryan's current Bizzaro look?

I <3 Barbara Hershey's lips in Beaches, bub. :cool:

No, saline is essentially just a fancy salt water. And it was only one lip, not both.

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 01:37 PM
Wow - I need to do my research - I've never heard of these projects :laugh:

Up until like last year I was the most low-maintenence non girly girl ever - no makeup no real skin care regiment...apparantly I'm paying for it now.

When I was you age, I hardly wore makeup. :eek: I did use a moisturizer though.
The wrinkles just appear seemingly out of nowhere one day. It happens to all of us.

The Tower
03-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Roc, for one. I'm telling ya, that stuff is the best if you want to firm your skin. I use it on my neck, too, to prevent chicken neck.
You should send some of that stuff to Stevie's management. Maybe she won't have to wear the neck scarves anymore for her upcoming tour.

:laugh: :laugh:

skcin
03-01-2005, 01:42 PM
I <3 needles. Giving injections is my favorite thing to do. :p


Me too. Bend over, baby. ;)

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 01:42 PM
When I was you age, I hardly wore makeup. :eek: I did use a moisturizer though.
The wrinkles just appear seemingly out of nowhere one day. It happens to all of us.


It's a pain in the ass - at first I only wore it on special occasions - but recently I've had some skin issues - which have left some scars and dark spots - so I hate leaving without the makeup - if this mederma stuff works as well as folk say - perhaps soon I can cut back on the makeup again...

I also wear very little - I'm pretty sure most people don't even realize I wear makeup :)

ontheEdgeof17
03-01-2005, 01:43 PM
Me too. Bend over, baby. ;)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

In the arm, please. ;)

The Tower
03-01-2005, 01:47 PM
I <3 Barbara Hershey's lips in Beaches, bub. :cool:

No, saline is essentially just a fancy salt water. And it was only one lip, not both.
Okay, I'll buy it for now. However, I have this crazy notion that one day we will see pictures of you with trout lips. For those considering collagen as a viable beauty option, please check out the following.

Trout Lip-a-palooza (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/cat_bad_collagen_in_lips.html)

Meg Ryan looked so much better before she Joker-fied her face. What about Rick Springfield!?!?!? :eek: He looks like he's had more than his lips altered. Maybe he's using Wacko Jacko's plastic surgeon....

strandinthewind
03-01-2005, 01:50 PM
Okay, I'll buy it for now. However, I have this crazy notion that one day we will see pictures of you with trout lips. For those considering collagen as a viable beauty option, please check out the following.

Trout Lip-a-palooza (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/cat_bad_collagen_in_lips.html)

Meg Ryan looked so much better before she Joker-fied her face. What about Rick Springfield!?!?!? :eek: He looks like he's had more than his lips altered. Maybe he's using Wacko Jacko's plastic surgeon....


Do I have to bring up the insect known as Melanie Giffith http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000397.html

dissention
03-01-2005, 01:53 PM
Do I have to bring up the insect known as Melanie Giffith http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000397.html

I don't care, she looked great at the Oscars. :nod:

strandinthewind
03-01-2005, 01:55 PM
I don't care, she looked great at the Oscars. :nod:

I thought she did as well. I find it hard to look at her face because I think, sadly, she ruined it with plastic surgery. But, she did look great and FEW could pull off that dress.

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 01:55 PM
Woah, that site is scary.
What is the obsession with big lips? I just don't understand.

Well, as you age your lips thin out. So its a youthful thing, what else? However, plumped up lips don't look youthful they look inflated.

hayley
03-01-2005, 01:56 PM
Woah, that site is scary.
What is the obsession with big lips? I just don't understand.

Seriously, that collagen **** is nasty. Hello, people? It's called Lip Venom (http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P51803). Use it. Best $15 you can spend. Or do it naturally. Use some cinnamon oil.

dissention
03-01-2005, 02:01 PM
I thought she did as well. I find it hard to look at her face because I think, sadly, she ruined it with plastic surgery. But, she did look great and FEW could pull off that dress.

I think she was at her peak of beauty from '86-'92. She was just gorgeous. Beautiful face and lush voice. :nod:

hayley
03-01-2005, 02:02 PM
Ooh! Good tip!

If you use cinnamon oil, be CAREFUL- you only need to use VERY small amount. It's strong. It'll burn the hell out of your lips if you use to much. I think you can use peppermint oil too, but I prefer cinnamon.

Lip Venom is the greatest stuff- your lips swell right up, but not to gross proportions, and it's got a really sexy sting to it. Two thumbs up.

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 02:03 PM
I'm actually happy with my lips - not too big - not too small :) My mom has NO lips so I lucked out....

I think the over-collagened look is gross...

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 02:04 PM
:shocked:

Jocelyn Wildenstein is the most horrid looking thing I've ever seen. Along with Jackie Stallone. They can't be human. :eek:

dissention
03-01-2005, 02:05 PM
:shocked:

Jocelyn Wildenstein is the most horrid looking thing I've ever seen. Along with Jackie Stallone. They can't be human. :eek:

Jackie Stallone, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've seen sewage that's more attractive!!!!

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 02:07 PM
Jackie Stallone, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've seen sewage that's more attractive!!!!


:lol: :lol:

Seriously - these women look disgusting...and as Ryan said, NOT human.....look at Joan Rivers...she's SO over-done.....I like how RObin Williams descibed it at the Oscars - women walking around with a perpetual look of surprise or something to that effect :laugh:

catinthedark
03-01-2005, 02:13 PM
Okay - I'm going to chime in here, too. Best thing I ever did was go for a facial at a really good spa. They analyzed my skin and worked with me to find the best products. I have sensitive/reactive normal to oily skin which still breaks out, but is dry in some areas. A bit challenging, no? :confused:

I use Dermalogica oil control moisturizer in the morning, and Decleor Hydra Flora Hydrating Comfort Creme at night. My skin has never been better. I tihnk we're close to acheiving balance! :]

Seriously, I'd advise getting a professional to look at your skin and recommend products. And sometimes you need to try a few before you find what works best for you.

That's my 2 cents - for what it's worth. :)

ryan8472
03-01-2005, 02:16 PM
:lol: :lol:

Seriously - these women look disgusting...and as Ryan said, NOT human.....look at Joan Rivers...she's SO over-done.....I like how RObin Williams descibed it at the Oscars - women walking around with a perpetual look of surprise or something to that effect :laugh:
I think Joan looks good. :shocked: :laugh: She can do no wrong in my eyes :nod: :laugh:

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 02:20 PM
You dangerous woman you :laugh: A little botox is fine, it's when you get these people who can barely move their faces, yikes!



I'm still capable of facial expression. Although in looking at my driver's license photo from a few years ago, I'd say I had too much right before that. See attached. :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Okay - I'm going to chime in here, too. Best thing I ever did was go for a facial at a really good spa. They analyzed my skin and worked with me to find the best products. I have sensitive/reactive normal to oily skin which still breaks out, but is dry in some areas. A bit challenging, no? :confused:

I use Dermalogica oil control moisturizer in the morning, and Decleor Hydra Flora Hydrating Comfort Creme at night. My skin has never been better. I tihnk we're close to acheiving balance! :]

Seriously, I'd advise getting a professional to look at your skin and recommend products. And sometimes you need to try a few before you find what works best for you.

That's my 2 cents - for what it's worth. :)


Yeah - I've actually wanted to do that for some time - right now though I'm saving all my pennies to take my grandma to NYC soon - after that it NOTS - then hopefully I can make it into a spa - the place I get my hair cut is a full service spa place as well - so I just need to get a facial scheduled - Spring may be better anyway - my skin will oil up by then :p

Also - I just spent a hefty chunk of change at the Vet - my dog needed antibiotics and a steriod - she was allergic to the food they were giving her at the shelter :mad: so she'd chewed the fur off part of her hip and was having other issues indicative of a food allergy - NOW she's in tip top shape and I can spend my money on me again :p

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 02:25 PM
I'm still capable of facial expression. Although in looking at my driver's license photo from a few years ago, I'd say I had too much right before that. See attached. :laugh:

:laugh: That's a look of surprise if I ever saw one ;)

I think Joan has just gone a little overboard - I know several women who have had work done - and still look fantastic!

It all comes down to preference - I'll never say never - because well my reaction to this little wrinkle appearing on my face is something I didn't expect....I guess I'm just starting to take my appearance more seriously now - especially since I'd like to climb the ladder in the professional world - it helps if you don't look like an unmade bed :) (or so I've heard :p)

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 02:29 PM
:laugh: You do look surprised alright :laugh:
But you actually you pretty good in that photo.

I was attempting to smile. :laugh: Thank you for the compliment.

dissention
03-01-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm still capable of facial expression. Although in looking at my driver's license photo from a few years ago, I'd say I had too much right before that. See attached. :laugh:

Oh, dear. :laugh: That pic is hilarious! But you're so pretty, it doesn't matter what face you're making. :xoxo:

cliffdweller
03-01-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm still capable of facial expression. Although in looking at my driver's license photo from a few years ago, I'd say I had too much right before that. See attached. :laugh:

I love it!

You're skin looks great anyway. You probably don't even need the 'tox!

skcin
03-01-2005, 03:23 PM
Dontatella? Scares the bejesus out of me. :eek:

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 03:25 PM
Dontatella? Scares the bejesus out of me. :eek:

Poor thing. She never was a great beauty. I love her hair though.

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 03:30 PM
Dontatella? Scares the bejesus out of me. :eek:

I love when Maya Rudolph plays her in SNL skits. :laugh:

amber
03-01-2005, 03:32 PM
I'm still capable of facial expression. Although in looking at my driver's license photo from a few years ago, I'd say I had too much right before that. See attached. :laugh:
There's nothing attached! :(

skcin
03-01-2005, 04:11 PM
I love when Maya Rudolph plays her in SNL skits. :laugh:


"OK, OK, I love you now GET OUT!"

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 04:11 PM
There's nothing attached! :(

I took it down. I didn't want to leave it up for too long. :o

amber
03-01-2005, 04:12 PM
I took it down. I didn't want to leave it up for too long. :o
Dang! I love pics. Oh, well, I snoozed, I lost. :o

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 04:13 PM
I don't care, she looked great at the Oscars. :nod:

She did. But do you know who I aspire to look like in my elder years? Faye Dunaway? Did you see her? Her hair is gorgeous. I hope I can keep my hair long. :)

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 04:15 PM
I think she was at her peak of beauty from '86-'92. She was just gorgeous. Beautiful face and lush voice. :nod:

The voice! And the giggle! It's at it's best with Harrison Ford in Working Girl. :thumbsup:

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:18 PM
The voice! And the giggle! It's at it's best with Harrison Ford in Working Girl. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

"I am not steak, you can't just order me!"

As much as I adore Working Girl, though, I'm still partial to Something Wild. Ever seen it? It's fabulous. She looks so gorgeous in that black wig and the short hair. Wish she'd make more (and better) movies.

amber
03-01-2005, 04:18 PM
She did. But do you know who I aspire to look like in my elder years? Faye Dunaway? Did you see her? Her hair is gorgeous. I hope I can keep my hair long. :)
Oh.My.God. I saw her the other night on Craig Ferguson, with her beautiful long hair and a satin purple pantsuit thingy on. Of course, she's been tucked and lifted to high heaven, but she looked just gorgeous. :nod: I just think she's the most, to say the least.

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:19 PM
She did. But do you know who I aspire to look like in my elder years? Faye Dunaway? Did you see her? Her hair is gorgeous. I hope I can keep my hair long. :)

:nod:

She's always been a stunner. But in Network? Wooooooo. Smokin'. She has certainly aged incredibly well.

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:20 PM
Oh.My.God. I saw her the other night on Craig Ferguson, with her beautiful long hair and a satin purple pantsuit thingy on. Of course, she's been tucked and lifted to high heaven, but she looked just gorgeous. :nod: I just think she's the most, to say the least.

I missed that, dammit!

Craig Ferguson? <3333333333333333

amber
03-01-2005, 04:21 PM
I missed that, dammit!

Craig Ferguson? <3333333333333333
I like him, too. Oh, and one of the PM's from me was asking if you saw her on there, so... :lol:

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:23 PM
I like him, too. Oh, and one of the PM's from me was asking if you saw her on there, so... :lol:

:laugh: Sorry! I guess I should read them more often, eh?

I'll slog through them all tonight, dear. :laugh: :wavey:

And yes, Craig Ferguson rocks my world. He's hilarious. Blows all the other late night hacks away.

amber
03-01-2005, 04:24 PM
:laugh: Sorry! I guess I should read them more often, eh?

I'll slog through them all tonight, dear. :laugh: :wavey:
Meh, nothing important. :D I like Craig a lot, but I like others, too. :woohoo:

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:35 PM
Meh, nothing important. :D I like Craig a lot, but I like others, too. :woohoo:

The only other one I can tolerate is Letterman, but that's only when I'm in the mood. Used to like Conan, but he's gotten pretty stupid. Ferguson it is for me. :D

He made a movie with Brenda Blethyn called Saving Grace that you MUST see. It's HYSTERICAL. Her husband dies and leaves her in debt, so her and her gardener (Ferguson) decide to grow weed and sell it to get her out of debt. :laugh: There's one scene where the cops are after them, so they burn all the weed, but the fumes make everyone in the town high!

amber
03-01-2005, 04:37 PM
The only other one I can tolerate is Letterman, but that's only when I'm in the mood. Used to like Conan, but he's gotten pretty stupid. Ferguson it is for me. :D

He made a movie with Brenda Blethyn called Saving Grace that you MUST see. It's HYSTERICAL. Her husband dies and leaves her in debt, so her and her gardener (Ferguson) decide to grow weed and sell it to get her out of debt. :laugh: There's one scene where the cops are after them, so they burn all the weed, but the fumes make everyone in the town high!
That's my kind of movie, all right. I'll get that sometime slogging through all of the other 187,285,000 movies i'm supposed to see. :woohoo:

dissention
03-01-2005, 04:40 PM
That's my kind of movie, all right. I'll get that sometime slogging through all of the other 187,285,000 movies i'm supposed to see. :woohoo:

You must finish Wendigo first so we can discuss. :laugh:

I was thinking of going to the video store later, but there's nothing I want to see.

gldstwmn
03-01-2005, 05:54 PM
:thumbsup:

"I am not steak, you can't just order me!"

As much as I adore Working Girl, though, I'm still partial to Something Wild. Ever seen it?

Nope. I'll have to check it out. :)

SuzeQuze
03-01-2005, 06:05 PM
"OK, OK, I love you now GET OUT!"

:laugh: She's always smoking and drinking champagne.

sara1998
03-01-2005, 08:19 PM
OH! What an informative thread! I have an awful complection, and have since I was a young teenager. I'm damn near 30 and my face still breaks out like a teenagers... :confused: So, I'm on Accutane for the third time now, and will have lazer surgery in about a year. In the meantime, I think I will try the Mederma and see what it does. But my scars are pretty deep, so I'm skeptical.

dissention
03-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Nope. I'll have to check it out. :)

Here's some info on it, you'll love it:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0091983/

And all you have to do is see it once and you'll want to buy the soundtrack IMMEDIATELY. :woohoo:

amber
03-01-2005, 08:37 PM
OH! What an informative thread! I have an awful complection, and have since I was a young teenager. I'm damn near 30 and my face still breaks out like a teenagers... :confused: So, I'm on Accutane for the third time now, and will have lazer surgery in about a year. In the meantime, I think I will try the Mederma and see what it does. But my scars are pretty deep, so I'm skeptical.
I took 2.5 cycles of accutane myself. But it was because my first Derm messed up a bit - After I was done, he did not do the chemical exfoliation on my face. By the time you're done with accutane, you have so much dry skin clogging your pores that you really need the doctor exfoliation. As soon as new derm figured that out and did it, my skin ceased to break out like it had been doing without the exfoliation. They probably did that for you, but in case they didn't, I just wanted to tell you. :) :wavey: I still get zits, but it was out of control after my accutane, before exfoliation. :nod: Unfortunately it was not in time to keep me from getting some big ass pores.. :distress: :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 08:46 PM
HoCrap - Mederma is like 30bucks!!! I bought the CVS brand for now - hopefully I'll see an improvement and then in April I'll buy the real stuff :p - I did get some ROC night cream though....

Dissention - will you offer a full refund if I'm not satisfied with my results ;)

amber
03-01-2005, 08:49 PM
HoCrap - Mederma is like 30bucks!!! I bought the CVS brand for now - hopefully I'll see an improvement and then in April I'll buy the real stuff :p - I did get some ROC night cream though....

Dissention - will you offer a full refund if I'm not satisfied with my results ;)
I will. I bet mine's better. :p
Here's a little more on it, just to be obnoxious. :)
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DrummerDeanna
03-01-2005, 08:51 PM
LOL- I would love to try the DHC stuff - I just need to wait until I have more funds :)

I think what's really screwing me over right now is the dryness....this Hispanic woman skin needs lots and lots of moisture to thrive - I mean my grandma is like 77 and just in the last two years has started looking older - the women in my family generally age really really well :nod:

I complained about the oil problem in the summer here - but I think it's better than the excessive dryness which is now causing wrinkles :mad:

amber
03-01-2005, 08:57 PM
LOL- I would love to try the DHC stuff - I just need to wait until I have more funds :)

I think what's really screwing me over right now is the dryness....this Hispanic woman skin needs lots and lots of moisture to thrive - I mean my grandma is like 77 and just in the last two years has started looking older - the women in my family generally age really really well :nod:

I complained about the oil problem in the summer here - but I think it's better than the excessive dryness which is now causing wrinkles :mad:
That's why I like that stuff, the set I got, you put the pure olive oil stuff on after the whole cleansing/moisterizer thing (at night) and my skin was all soft and nice the next day. And I don't really have dry skin (sometimes, a little) but the whole thing didn't clog my pores or anything - in fact it cleaned them! I dunno, I really have always thought Olive oil was good for your skin (from research) and I've never really been into "moisturizing" type skin products, never done that whole thing, but I really liked this one. I think, also, with a lot of moisterizers, putting them on makes your body stop the production of it's own skin oil, cause it thinks your skin is already moisterized. I didn't get the sense that this one was like that at all. Ok, I'll hush now. :lol: But our skin may be more alike then the other peoples, who I think are lighter. :shrug: Anyway, hopefully what you already bought will work for you, since you already bought it and everything. :p

Sugar
03-01-2005, 10:03 PM
He made a movie with Brenda Blethyn called Saving Grace that you MUST see. It's HYSTERICAL. Her husband dies and leaves her in debt, so her and her gardener (Ferguson) decide to grow weed and sell it to get her out of debt. :laugh: There's one scene where the cops are after them, so they burn all the weed, but the fumes make everyone in the town high!


LOVE IT!!!! Just watched it again the other night. It's such a warm, sweet movie too! I love his rant in the bar at the pool table about "Ganja Grace and the Lobster Queen!" Love that Scottish accent.

dissention
03-01-2005, 10:56 PM
LOVE IT!!!! Just watched it again the other night. It's such a warm, sweet movie too! I love his rant in the bar at the pool table about "Ganja Grace and the Lobster Queen!" Love that Scottish accent.

It's sooooooooo cute. Love it!

"Grace? We loooooooooooooooooooove Grace! Do you know Grace?" :laugh: