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strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 06:21 AM
George Michael: I quit pop music

BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- George Michael says he is saying farewell to the world of pop music, using a candid documentary about his life to put the record straight before he "disappeared."

He also declared the genre that brought him fame and riches, as well as unwanted media attention, was dead.

"That genre is just dead as far as I am concerned," he told Reuters in an interview after the premiere of his documentary at the Berlin Film Festival.

"George Michael: A Different Story" traces a rags-to-riches journey that made Michael one of the biggest selling artists of the 1980s and 1990s but which was not without tragedy along the way.

"I just thought it was very important to explain myself before I disappear," the 41-year-old said. "I truly believe that there's a life for me that is not this one."

When asked what he would do next, he replied:

"Perhaps it will mean writing for other people. I have an ambition to write a truly contemporary musical, not necessarily even for the stage, but for the screen ... I have got to find ways to make music and enjoy it the way I used to."

Michael railed against the advent of manufactured bands and the music world's obsession with celebrity, explaining that he was not interested in competing with the likes of British musicians Robbie Williams or Will Young.

"Nobody want to hear about politics, or any kind of strong ideas in pop any more."

In the 100-minute film, he speaks frankly about losing a lover to AIDS and the death of his mother, of the infamous lewd act in a Beverly Hills toilet and the media fury over his anti-Iraq war stance.

'Unbearable'
The documentary is fascinating as much for its insight into life as a celebrity as it is for revealing some of the truth about the notoriously publicity-shy star.

"It's never suited me very well, the business of media and celebrity," Michael said. "Now I just find it unbearable."

His meteoric rise to superstardom, first with Wham! and then as a solo artist, was complicated by the fact that he was gay while widely believed to be straight.

"I thought, 'Oh my God, I'm a massive star and I think I may be a poof. This is not going to end well'," he said in the film.

Michael eventually outed himself after being charged with lewd behavior in a toilet in 1998, although he lost Brazilian boyfriend Anselmo Feleppa to an AIDS-related condition in 1993.

"I remember looking at the sky and saying: 'Don't do this to me'," Michael said, referring to the moment when Feleppa told him he was going for medical tests.

Ballads like "Careless Whisper" and "Faith" have propelled Michael to the pinnacle of the music world.

He has sold more than 70 million records, and his 1987 album "Faith" yielded six number one singles in the key American market. He has amassed a personal fortune estimated at 80 million pounds ($150 million).

But he has also had fallow years, such as when he fought a losing legal battle against his record label in the early 1990s.

He came roaring back in 1994, performing the acclaimed "Jesus to a Child" single under Berlin's Brandenburg Gate.

Elton John appears in the film and repeats his criticism of Michael that a decision not to tour was a waste of his talent.

"I find him very frustrating," said John.

John also takes a swipe at Michael's reluctance to tell the world that he was gay.

"To be busted in the toilet is not the best way to come out of the closet, is it?" John asked.

Michael said he never thought the incident would destroy his career, but he was "floored" by the media backlash triggered by his opposition to the war in Iraq.

The video for "Shoot the Dog" features cartoon figures of U.S. President George W. Bush in bed with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/17/george.michael.reut/index.html

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 06:24 AM
If you go to the link - let me just say that pic. make La Michael at the age of 41 look a little road hard and put up wet :eek:

I must say though that I LOVED his music - everything from dancing wildly in high school to Wake Me Up Before You Go Go (brilliant if you ask me :woohoo: ) to BELTING Father Figure (doesn't that sound like an S&M act :eek: :laugh: ) in Law School.

I must say Elton John's quote "To be busted in the toilet is not the best way to come out of the closet, is it?" is both hysterical and typical Queen Elton pith :nod:

irishgrl
02-17-2005, 07:31 AM
his genre is dead. John Mellencamp said rock was dead. our music is changing and Im not fond of some of what's left. I never thought I'd see the day when there was a type of music I didnt like! I guess Im now officially one of "them!":eek:

Gypsy-Rhiannon
02-17-2005, 08:59 AM
Faith was a fantastic album. I was a huge fan of his some years ago. Never really liked him in his Wham days though. And I still think he did one of the best Queen covers at the Freddie tribute

Pip

Miss Vicky
02-17-2005, 10:47 AM
Unfortunately I got into his music way too late in the game. Have only his "Ladies and Gentlemen" collection which I picked up a few months ago.

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 10:54 AM
Faith was a fantastic album. I was a huge fan of his some years ago. Never really liked him in his Wham days though. And I still think he did one of the best Queen covers at the Freddie tribute

Pip

until he performed "Somebody To Love" at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert...That performance (Along with the band Extreme's "Queen medley) was the best of the show :nod:

Sadly the worse performance of the day was Robert Plant's attempt at the Queen track "Innuendo". Dude, How could you forget the lyrics to such a classic song, Especially one that was a musical nod to Led Zeppelin? I can sing the song word-for-word...But then given Robert's lack of memory of the lyrics is the only reason why the track was not included on the official DVD release of the show.

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 10:58 AM
until he performed "Somebody To Love" at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert...That performance (Along with the band Extreme's "Queen medley) was the best of the show :nod:

Sadly the worse performance of the day was Robert Plant's attempt at the Queen track "Innuendo". Dude, How could you forget the lyrics to such a classic song, Especially one the was a nod to Led Zeppelin? I can sing the song word-for-word...But then given Robert's lack of memory of the lyrics is the only reason why the track was not included on the official DVD release of the show.

I think this is sad. If music stinks then put out good stuff, don't bow out. But, if it will make him happy then go for it. But he will be back. :nod:

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 11:04 AM
his genre is dead. John Mellencamp said rock was dead. our music is changing and Im not fond of some of what's left. I never thought I'd see the day when there was a type of music I didnt like! I guess Im now officially one of "them!":eek:

though I think Mellen-CHUMP'S "rock music" career is also dead (I wonder if that is why he is suddenly being shown on CMT???).

But real rock is not dead, It has gone quietly back to the velvet underground, Which is fine by me...It makes me feel somewhat nostalgic having to locate great music like back in the old days WITHOUT listening to the media, critics, radio or "supposed music video channels" to decide what is current that I may like.

Matter-of-fact, My taste in music overall has reflected the back to the velvet underground mentality (Gee, I wonder who SANG that line??? :shrug: ) and I dont feel it will be changing anytime soon.

DrummerDeanna
02-17-2005, 11:07 AM
But he will be back. :nod:

Of course - for a round of what 93 farewell tours :laugh: - seriously - how many damn farewell tours has Cher gone on now ;)

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 11:14 AM
Of course - for a round of what 93 farewell tours :laugh: - seriously - how many damn farewell tours has Cher gone on now ;)

Kiss has been on a farewell tour since 1995 (!!!) and it doesnt appear to be coming to an end anytime soon :eek:

If you are going to leave the 'buziness' do what an Oklahoman named Garth Brooks did, Move back to your homestate and raise yer children and tell the industry that is the only priority in life that matters, and you wont be back anytime soon...No "one more ongoin' money grab" farewell tour, No farewell album of mediocre music, Just up and walk-a-way as Garth did :nod:

Miss Vicky
02-17-2005, 11:24 AM
"supposed music video channels"

You know, MTV and VH1 do still play music videos, only you have to watch really early in the morning to catch them.
Other than that, MTV is nothing but reality tv programming and dating shows - Osbournes, Newlyweds, Ashlee Simpson, Pimp My Ride, Room Raiders, Date My Mom, etc. And VH1 is reality TV, gossip, fashion, and movies - Surreal Life, Celebrity Fit Club, Strange Love, The Fabulous Life of..., The Best Week Ever, Movies that Rock... etc.
It's a wonder they can get away with still calling themselves Music Television and Video Hits One.

catinthedark
02-17-2005, 11:42 AM
he is right... his genre is dead. John Mellencamp said rock was dead. our music is changing and Im not fond of some of what's left. I never thought I'd see the day when there was a type of music I didnt like! I guess Im now officially one of "them!":eek:

I can relate. I've been feeling very old lately for my 34 years. I finally gave up on listening to the radio about a year ago. I just couldn't stand it anymore (other than the classic rock station in my city). I have been reflecting on whether it is simply a generational thing, and whether people in their 30s felt the same about the music I loved through the 80s and 90s (I was always very enamoured of 60s and 70s music, too). But I don't think it is. I think that the whole industry has simply changed, for the worse. It is no longer about talent and songwriting and ideas and creativity. As stated above, with very, very few exceptions, it's all about looks and celebrity. If it doesn't exist, the music company will manufacture it. None of these current "stars" is going to be around in 10, 20, 30 years. I'm wondering what's going to happen to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Who the heck are they going to induct 20 years from now??? Britney Spears? Jessica Simpson? Reuban Stoddard? It's all very sad. I think there is probably a lot of talent out there that will never be heard - because the artist doesn't have the right look - the right body. Pure talent no longer gets a record exec interested. And unless the record companies are paying the radio station, the song's not going to get played. I don't blame George Michael one bit for getting out. (I do find it a touch arrogant that he felt the need to explain to the world why he was disappearing; I'm not sure I would have noticed. :shrug: )

golden braid
02-17-2005, 11:48 AM
I loved George's Faith album when I was a kid. I remember playing I Want Your Sex all the time and that was supposed to be a "bad" song. I really thought George was super hot too. I loved seeing him in that Monkey (whatever it was called) video.

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 12:01 PM
I can relate. I've been feeling very old lately for my 34 years. I finally gave up on listening to the radio about a year ago. I just couldn't stand it anymore (other than the classic rock station in my city). I have been reflecting on whether it is simply a generational thing, and whether people in their 30s felt the same about the music I loved through the 80s and 90s (I was always very enamoured of 60s and 70s music, too). But I don't think it is. I think that the whole industry has simply changed, for the worse. It is no longer about talent and songwriting and ideas and creativity. As stated above, with very, very few exceptions, it's all about looks and celebrity. If it doesn't exist, the music company will manufacture it. None of these current "stars" is going to be around in 10, 20, 30 years. I'm wondering what's going to happen to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Who the heck are they going to induct 20 years from now??? Britney Spears? Jessica Simpson? Reuban Stoddard? It's all very sad. I think there is probably a lot of talent out there that will never be heard - because the artist doesn't have the right look - the right body. Pure talent no longer gets a record exec interested. And unless the record companies are paying the radio station, the song's not going to get played. I don't blame George Michael one bit for getting out. (I do find it a touch arrogant that he felt the need to explain to the world why he was disappearing; I'm not sure I would have noticed. :shrug: )

I am the same age (34) and I havent listened to radio on a regular basis in about 3 years...The stations downfall to me started when Clear Channel started to dictate what was musically acceptable to be played, To which I say "F**k that"! Now almost all of the stations in this area have jumped on that bandwagon, Thus I refuse to give in to that "music lobotomization".

I prefer to listen to someone who will have longevity, Not someone who will rake in the fame/$$$/critical acclaim in 5 minutes flat like the current crop of crap that is trying to shoved down everyone's throat either by Clear Channel radio or Viacom and their "supposed music video channels".

As for the following idiots (Britney Spears--Jessica Simpson--Reuban Stoddard) they better hope they wisely invested the $$$ they have made off their 15 minutes of fame, Cause the hand is on 14 minutes...And closing in fast on 15.

What happened to the day when a "musician" played for the love of music instead of the whole current crop (Or is it crap?) of "entertainers" who just want instant gratification with "celebrity/critical acclaim/fame/$$$" instead of busting their asses the ol' hard way as "musicians" did back in 1960's-1970's???

In the end, REAL TALENT shines eternally through and FAKE CONTRIVED CRAP hardens up and turns to dust in the blowing wind :nod:

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 12:11 PM
I am the same age (34) and I havent listened to radio on a regular basis in about 3 years...The stations downfall to me started when Clear Channel started to dictate what was musically acceptable to be played, To which I say "F**k that"! Now almost all of the stations in this area have jumped on that bandwagon, Thus I refuse to give in to that "music lobotomization".

I prefer to listen to someone who will have longevity, Not someone who will rake in the fame/$$$/critical acclaim in 5 minutes flat like the current crop of crap that is trying to shoved down everyone's throat either by Clear Channel radio or Viacom and their "supposed music video channels".

As for the following idiots (Britney Spears--Jessica Simpson--Reuban Stoddard) they better hope they wisely invested the $$$ they have made off their 15 minutes of fame, Cause the hand is on 14 minutes...And closing in fast on 15.

What happened to the day when a "musician" played for the love of music instead of the whole current crop (Or is it crap?) of "entertainers" who just want instant gratification with "celebrity/critical acclaim/fame/$$$" instead of busting their asses the ol' hard way as "musicians" did back in 1960's-1970's???

In the end, REAL TALENT shines eternally through and FAKE CONTRIVED CRAP hardens up and turns to dust in the blowing wind :nod:

Same. I'll be 34 in April and I no longer listen to the radio, except for AAR, dude, I'm OLD! You really have to hunt for good music these days. In the 80s critics made fun of "hair band" music like it wasn't real music. Now it is looked at nostalgiacly and the kids love it (well my aunt's kids do, and they are 13 and 16). My 13 year old cousin was humming Eye of the Tiger and I was like, "Did you just see Rocky or something?", she's like, "Wha?", and then she said she downloaded the song. I was like, oh yay, I'm cool! :laugh: Finally, the 80s get their due. :thumbsup: At least the bands then all played their own instruments and sang live and mostly in key.

CelticGypsy
02-17-2005, 12:27 PM
I still can't believe he is doing this but I wish him well with whatever he has planned with his life. His talent will be missed. Can't say much for Elton since I think Elton needs some humility in his personal life. Maybe he is just mad because he wanted George for himself :laugh: :eek:

Still remember all the excitement and energy during his show back in 1988 in Frankfurt, Germany. Being short, I was surrounded by tall Germans who were sweating so I dragged hubby towards the stage. haha I used the excuse that I couldn't breathe (which was true since it was hot and people sweating everywhere) and people parted like the Red Sea. I got to be up in front row and actually touched George's boot as he sang by us. haha Good thing most of those fans there were either drunk or high :confused: :D I don't think they really cared if they saw George or not so I ended up near the stage. haha

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 12:29 PM
Same. I'll be 34 in April and I no longer listen to the radio, except for AAR, dude, I'm OLD! You really have to hunt for good music these days. In the 80s critics made fun of "hair band" music like it wasn't real music. Now it is looked at nostalgiacly and the kids love it (well my aunt's kids do, and they are 13 and 16). My 13 year old cousin was humming Eye of the Tiger and I was like, "Did you just see Rocky or something?", she's like, "Wha?", and then she said she downloaded the song. I was like, oh yay, I'm cool! :laugh: Finally, the 80s get their due. :thumbsup: At least the bands then all played their own instruments and sang live and mostly in key.

I laugh at how Empty-vee dumped hard rock/metal (I hate the term "hair metal") for grunge/alternative in the early 1990's, But yet where are all of those bands that Empty-vee had their noses/hands/lips so firmly planted in their chocolate starfish?

Some of the same bands that Empty-Vee deemed as "lame" are still around, Most have enjoyed major success in Europe/Asia where the whole "Flavor-for-the-weak" mentality of the US has never caught on...And love being the underdog to the BS music climate of the US, But the same cannot be said of Empty-Vee's "darling's"...Nearly all of 'em are no longer around and a few members died, couldnt contend with the product of ther machinery that they became (ie-Kurt GO-Bang, I meant Kurt Cobain!)

I am tolerent of the nostalgic trip, as long as you approach sincerely, Not because it may make the youth appear as if they are so "in tune and hip". If they dive in headfirst and swallow it all then I can honestly say that they are not trying to fit in with the lame-as-lint "I'm so f**kin cool" crowd.

Brian "Empty-Vee & Visually Hurling 1's lunch" j.

The Tower
02-17-2005, 12:35 PM
Blah, blah, blah.....

I love George and his latest album Patience is really good in spots and uneven in others. But still- stop boo hooing and just make your ****ing music. He's a good songwriter and a great singer- just do it and quit complaining.

All of the albums that he's released on his own have been pretty good product. Even Songs From the 20th Century, the gayest album ever recorded. :nod: :laugh:

wondergirl9847
02-17-2005, 12:36 PM
George is one of my favorite voices in music and this sucks that he feels the need to leave. :( Perhaps, if the music industry turns around within the next few years, he'll change his mind. :)

CelticGypsy
02-17-2005, 12:42 PM
I enjoyed Elton's recent antics. Drunken acceptance speeches from aging musicians, brilliant. His state allowed him to publically acknowledge what is true anyway.


Don't get me wrong, I love Elton John and his music. He just needs to come down off his Princess cloud and join the rest of us George loving people :lol: When it comes to George Michael, Elton has always been a little unkind and mean-spirited. I figure it is either lust for George or envy of his talent and looks ;) Just my own personal opinion.

estranged4life
02-17-2005, 12:43 PM
is that he would make a better singer in Queen than Paul Rodgers, Don't get me wrong I like Rodgers voice, But what worked for Free/Bad Company/The Firm/etc just doesnt fit with Queen's style...George Michael on the otherhand would be a perfect fit and could do the songs justice :nod:

Solowise, Dude should just record music and use the publicity, Be it good or bad, to his advantage!

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 01:17 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Elton John and his music. He just needs to come down off his Princess cloud and join the rest of us George loving people :lol: When it comes to George Michael, Elton has always been a little unkind and mean-spirited. I figure it is either lust for George or envy of his talent and looks ;) Just my own personal opinion.

What is his problem? Elton was also in the closet for some time. He also had a drug problem and bulimia. Who is he to judge? Why is he being so hypocritical? I hate that sh*t.

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 01:20 PM
I think he was trying to say that if GM had come out earlier then maybe he would not have had to have been in that bathroom. I did not take EJ's words as too harsh as opposed to a statement of reality and, in some ways, a commentary on EJ's life prior to coming out. I personally like EJ's willingness to state his mind even though I may not agree with him or even like him as a person. I think the world needs more people saying things like this - though perhaps in softer tones.

The Tower
02-17-2005, 02:36 PM
I think he was trying to say that if GM had come out earlier then maybe he would not have had to have been in that bathroom.
That bathroom is really gross, by the way- and tiny, too. It's in the Will Rogers park across from the Beverly Hills Hotel. I take my dogs for walks there all the time. Why on earth he picked that particular bathroom to cottage in is beyond me.... it is rank.

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 03:11 PM
That bathroom is really gross, by the way- and tiny, too. It's in the Will Rogers park across from the Beverly Hills Hotel. I take my dogs for walks there all the time. Why on earth he picked that particular bathroom to cottage in is beyond me.... it is rank.

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 03:20 PM
I think he was trying to say that if GM had come out earlier then maybe he would not have had to have been in that bathroom. I did not take EJ's words as too harsh as opposed to a statement of reality and, in some ways, a commentary on EJ's life prior to coming out. I personally like EJ's willingness to state his mind even though I may not agree with him or even like him as a person. I think the world needs more people saying things like this - though perhaps in softer tones.

Um, well hindsight is 20/20 and he was just stating the obvious. Of course GM wouldn't have been caught in the rest area if he had come out, duh. But obviously there was plenty of pressure for him NOT to come out which Elton should understand, IMO.

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 03:27 PM
Um, well hindsight is 20/20 and he was just stating the obvious. Of course GM wouldn't have been caught in the rest area if he had come out, duh. But obviously there was plenty of pressure for him NOT to come out which Elton should understand, IMO.

I know and I do not think EJ was saying anything diff. I think EJ was saying, with personal painful knowledge, that things may have gone easier on GM if he had come out before he was outed in such a bad way. I just do not get where people see a ton on venom in EJ's quote above. But, they do I guess :cool:

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 03:32 PM
I know and I do not think EJ was saying anything diff. I think EJ was saying, with personal painful knowledge, that things may have gone easier on GM if he had come out before he was outed in such a bad way. I just do not get where people see a ton on venom in EJ's quote above. But, they do I guess :cool:

Ahh, well I didn't see the original quote in context so I took it at face value that it was actually mean spirited which it may not have been.

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 03:42 PM
Ahh, well I didn't see the original quote in context so I took it at face value that it was actually mean spirited which it may not have been.


I think EJ is in ways just a fussy old woman a la Gladys Cravitz (sp.?) on Bewitched. So, he says these things that no one really says and people not being used to hearing them go :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

I mean who does not know Madonna lip syncs a little in her concerts. But, no one says it. Who does not think the press are like vipers in pursuit of prey - but no one says it too loudly. But, he sure does and he knows the gossip to add to it :eek:

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 04:20 PM
...Remember when he took his official messageboard down because he felt some of the comments were too negative? Like, oh my God, sometimes your fans don't like every single thing you do George? :rolleyes:
...

I didn't know he did this. GM dude get over yourself! He takes himself way too seriously apparently. And I agree with you, neither pop, nor rock are dead, they're just going through a "phase" so to speak. :D

Serrart
02-17-2005, 05:00 PM
until he performed "Somebody To Love" at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert...That performance (Along with the band Extreme's "Queen medley) was the best of the show :nod:

I think the best were David Bowie/ Annie Lennox :nod: , but George Michael was very good too.

Romy

The Tower
02-17-2005, 05:05 PM
If you go to the link - let me just say that pic. make La Michael at the age of 41 look a little road hard and put up wet :eek:
I just looked at this picture and all I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: !!!!!

He looks like ****!!!! Poor thing....

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 06:25 PM
I just looked at this picture and all I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: !!!!!

He looks like ****!!!! Poor thing....

I agree, but it almost looks like there was contrast added to the photo which would make wrinkles and such pop out. It looks odd.

SuzeQuze
02-17-2005, 06:27 PM
It's true. Check this out Suze.

Web insults close Michael's site (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3878241.stm)

Oy vez. Doesn't he realize this happens to everyone in the public eye? It probably always will. When you put yourself out there people will always criticize you. Either ignore it or see if it has any merit and then ignore it. :shrug: I think he needs meds.

ontheEdgeof17
02-17-2005, 06:34 PM
I think he still looks hot. I like older men though who retain water. :lol:

David
02-17-2005, 09:06 PM
George Michael: I quit pop musicDidn't he die?

I'm pretty out of it.

Janet
02-17-2005, 09:28 PM
No he is only 41 right, he is very much alive my goodness!

I love some of his songs and he has a great voice but I think he is quitting because he CAN'T sell records anymore.

It's a shame. Whatever.

ShangriLaTroubl
02-17-2005, 09:43 PM
Thank the lord, he couldnt have retired any sooner


Chris

strandinthewind
02-17-2005, 10:17 PM
No he is only 41 right, he is very much alive my goodness!

I love some of his songs and he has a great voice but I think he is quitting because he CAN'T sell records anymore.

It's a shame. Whatever.

I think so too - I also think he wants to make his own music and for the record company to get behind that just like they would a carefully targeted pop record and he is pissed that they will not. In the end, I love his music and think he has a great voice.

Personally, I think he acts as if he is on drugs in that his behaviour seems erradic :shrug:

Serrart
02-18-2005, 03:53 PM
Personally, I think he acts as if he is on drugs in that his behaviour seems erradic :shrug:

I think it's more an attitude problem, and as far as I recall, he has always got it. As Sally Field would say (more or less :D ), even for a musician he's an egomaniac.

Romy