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skcin
01-25-2005, 11:23 AM
And the nominees are...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/25/oscar.nominations/index.html
No real big surprises, IMO.
amber
01-25-2005, 12:04 PM
I'm suprised that the stupid Aviator got so many noms. :mad:
whatev. At least Don Cheadle got nommed.
And Annette Bening better beat Swank this year.
Poor Paul Giamatti. :distress:
strandinthewind
01-25-2005, 12:06 PM
The Aviator was a GREAT movie :shrug:
ontheEdgeof17
01-25-2005, 12:08 PM
Yeah...no surprises with the noms.
However, CNN was talking about the lookover of Passion and F9-11.
amber
01-25-2005, 12:10 PM
The Aviator was a GREAT movie :shrug:
great. so was sideways. anyway, I don't know that DiCaprio deserved.
DrummerDeanna
01-25-2005, 12:37 PM
I have seen none of the nominated movies :( I'm horribly behind in my movie viewing...
Brwn_eyes0511
01-25-2005, 12:47 PM
great. so was sideways. anyway, I don't know that DiCaprio deserved.
Sideways was not nominated???? WHAT! Great movie!
Aviator...not so good!
Passion DID at least get 3 noms. Cinematography, makeup, and score! (IMO...it should have been nom for best actor (Jim Caviezel) and best actress (Maia Morgenstern)
and no Phantom of the Opera noms? or did I overlook that!?! :shrug:
GypsySorcerer
01-25-2005, 12:56 PM
great. so was sideways. anyway, I don't know that DiCaprio deserved.
I actually thought DiCaprio did a great job. Despite looking nothing like Hughes, I felt the pulled it off. Maybe because I've always been interested in Howard Hughes anyway. :shrug:
But it doesn't matter who was nominated in the Best Actor category - Jamie Foxx is a shoo-in.
ontheEdgeof17
01-25-2005, 12:57 PM
I have seen none of the nominated movies :( I'm horribly behind in my movie viewing...
Me either...........maybe cuz the nominated movies are usually boring epics that no one sees anyway.
Villavic
01-25-2005, 01:35 PM
And finally they didn't include Diarios de Motocicleta among the Foreign language nominees. I have not seen it but I heard is a great movie (about a young che Guevara )
Moony
01-25-2005, 04:12 PM
I really hope Kate Winslet wins for best actress. I know she absolutely will not, but Eternal Sunshine is my favorite movie... :(
Frankly, I'm very relieved not to see The Passion up for best picture.
strandinthewind
01-25-2005, 04:16 PM
I really hope Kate Winslet wins for best actress. I know she absolutely will not, but Eternal Sunshine is my favorite movie... :(
Frankly, I'm very relieved not to see The Passion up for best picture.
Me too.
I have to say - apart from the emotion in the story that many apparently felt due to their religious beliefs, the acting was not that great. He did an okay job, but hardly Oscar worthy. She, on the other hand, was IMO geat and an Academy Award nomination would not have been out of the question :shrug:
amber
01-25-2005, 04:18 PM
I really hope Kate Winslet wins for best actress. I know she absolutely will not, but Eternal Sunshine is my favorite movie... :(
Frankly, I'm very relieved not to see The Passion up for best picture.
I"m soooo glad she's not gonna win. :woohoo:
Moony
01-25-2005, 04:23 PM
I"m soooo glad she's not gonna win. :woohoo:
I'm soooo gonna slap you. :woohoo:
Brwn_eyes0511
01-25-2005, 04:47 PM
I"m soooo glad she's not gonna win. :woohoo:
I think that Maia Morgenstern should have been up for Best Actress for "The Passion" but if not her....I really enjoyed Emmy Rossum in Phantom of the Opera...but no nom. for her either!!! :mad:
Oh well, besides those two, there really weren't any great movies this year :(
Last year though I was CRAZY about "Cold Mountain". I thought it was a great film! But I have a biased...I DO LOVE NICOLE!
amber
01-25-2005, 05:04 PM
I'm soooo gonna slap you. :woohoo:
Can't reach me from there, can ya? Mwahahahahahahaha!!!!! :lol:
Serrart
01-25-2005, 06:29 PM
I like the nominations (limited Passion, no Birth :cool: ) except for the exclusion of La chiavi di casa from the best foreign-language movie category ... that's life.
The race for best actress should be interesting, I hope it will go to Catalina Sandino Moreno or especially to Imelda Staunton who's just incredible but that would request some courage from Academy voters so I doubt it will happen.
For some of the others, I hope:
Best movie: The Aviator
Best director: Mike Leigh or Scorsese (he has to win sooner or later)
Best actor: Johnny Depp
Best supporting actress: Cate Blanchett
Best supporting actor: Alan Alda
Best foreign-language film-The sea Inside
Best cinematography- Zhao Xiaoding (House Of Flying Daggers)
Best art direction: Dante Ferretti and Francesca Lo Schiavo (The Aviator)
Even if probably the Oscar night wouldn't go exactly in my direction :p
Romy
GypsySorcerer
01-25-2005, 07:08 PM
I"m soooo glad she's not gonna win. :woohoo:
:shocked: :shocked:
I love, love, love Kate Winslet. I think she's terrific and beautiful to boot. Plus, she's fiery. :nod: Too bad she won't win.....this is her fourth nomination.
I also adore Cate Blanchett. I've been waiting for her to win an Oscar, so hopefully, this will be her year.
amber
01-25-2005, 07:23 PM
:shocked: :shocked:
I love, love, love Kate Winslet. I think she's terrific and beautiful to boot. Plus, she's fiery. :nod: Too bad she won't win.....this is her fourth nomination.
I also adore Cate Blanchett. I've been waiting for her to win an Oscar, so hopefully, this will be her year.
great. I like the blanchett, think the winslet is overrated. I don't hate her though, contrary to what has been said...
SuzeQuze
01-25-2005, 07:45 PM
:shocked: :shocked:
I love, love, love Kate Winslet. I think she's terrific and beautiful to boot. Plus, she's fiery. :nod: Too bad she won't win.....this is her fourth nomination.
I also adore Cate Blanchett. I've been waiting for her to win an Oscar, so hopefully, this will be her year.
I like Winslet and Blanchett. Winslet has that classic beauty like an old time film star or a porcelain doll. Loved her in Eternal Sunshine.
dissention
01-25-2005, 08:49 PM
The Aviator was a GREAT movie :shrug:
The first hour was, but then it fell apart in the last half. It went down the ****ter faster than I could have imagined. :laugh:
dissention
01-25-2005, 08:50 PM
great. so was sideways. anyway, I don't know that DiCaprio deserved.
I don't think he did. His scene about the "blueprints" was enough to get him a Razzie, IMO. :laugh:
To think that he was chosen over Liam Neeson is incomprehensible to me.
amber
01-25-2005, 08:52 PM
I don't think he did. His scene about the "blueprints" was enough to get him a Razzie, IMO. :laugh:
To think that he was chosen over Liam Neeson is incomprehensible to me.
I read an article that said his performance was more the product of the director's cutting and vision than anything else. :shrug: Not saying that is true, but...
dissention
01-25-2005, 08:54 PM
The Aviator isn't Scorsese's best film, but it's a film about Hollywood, about making movies and those voting for these things are gonna take that to heart, plus the fact it's a travesty Scorsese has never won one before.
They said the same thing about Gangs of New York.
I hope Cate Blanchett wins too, her performance as Kate Hepburn was superb. Love, love, love Cate. Her British accent in The Life Aquatic was so sweet and charming too.
I love her to pieces, but Madsen is my gal. :laugh:
And why is Before Sunset up for Best Adapted Screenplay? That's an original work by Richard Linklater, Ethan Hawke and Julie Delphy based on characters Linklater created himself for Before Sunrise! Very odd.
Don't mention Delpy! I'm still mourning the fact that they passed her over for Audrey Tatou in The Da Vinci Code! :lol:
dissention
01-25-2005, 08:55 PM
I read an article that said his performance was more the product of the director's cutting and vision than anything else. :shrug: Not saying that is true, but...
I thought he was nothing short of phenomenal. No director can edit a performance to make it any better, IMO, and while I watched Neeson, I forgot that I was watching an actor. He was Kinsey. :woohoo:
amber
01-25-2005, 08:56 PM
I thought he was nothing short of phenomenal. No director can edit a performance to make it any better, IMO, and while I watched Neeson, I forgot that I was watching an actor. He was Kinsey. :woohoo:
I was talking about DiCaprio.
strandinthewind
01-25-2005, 09:00 PM
Lux - I agree Cate is fab.
Also, I also LOVED Taxi Driver ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075314/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9dGF4aWRyaXZlcnxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=20; fm=1 ) , though it was hard to watch because it was blisteringly harsh. But, therein is MS' brilliance. He knows how to portray the emotion so well. I mean look at The Age of Innocence ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106226/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9YWdlIG9mIGlubm9jZW5jZXxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc= 1;ft=20;fm=1 ) - in which he semingly effortlessly captured the beauty of that era while also humorously and tragically noting the ugly things like the hypocrisy of that era as well. I also think "Gangs of New York," ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217505/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9Z2FuZ3Mgb2YgbmV3IHlvcmt8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc= 1;ft=21;fm=1 )while not my fav. film, also seemingly effortless portrayed this same thing.
So, I think MS will win for his body of work - while not really fair, it happens :shrug:
Finally, he ususally has Mt Rushmore for a cast doesn't he :laugh: AND he brings out the best in ALL of them IMO :cool:
strandinthewind
01-25-2005, 09:04 PM
I read an article that said his performance was more the product of the director's cutting and vision than anything else. :shrug: Not saying that is true, but...
Almost all I have seen speak of Leo D. that have worked with him say his talent if the real deal :shrug: He has a good body of work (some not as good as others but on average good) IMO and I think he is a talent. Will he ever win ( :cool: ) - this year I am unsure. He is VERY popular amongst actors. But Jamie Foxx is a fav. So, who knows!!! IMO ANY of the nominees could win, save perhaps Eastwood (is he in this category? ) - and I would be okay with that.
dissention
01-25-2005, 09:05 PM
I was talking about DiCaprio.
:laugh:
Sorry, dear.
DiCaprio was DiCaprio, nothing new, IMO.
SuzeQuze
01-25-2005, 09:19 PM
I thought he was nothing short of phenomenal. No director can edit a performance to make it any better, IMO, and while I watched Neeson, I forgot that I was watching an actor. He was Kinsey. :woohoo:
I must see this. My hair stylist has a photo of her daughter with Liam in her salon, I'll have to ask her about it next time I'm there.
I really enjoyed DiCaprio in Gangs. He actually looked like a man <swoon> and he was not cloying. But I'm a sap and I even liked him in Titanic. :shrug: I haven't seen The Aviator though either. Why the hell am I commenting then? ;)
strandinthewind
01-25-2005, 09:24 PM
I must see this. My hair stylist has a photo of her daughter with Liam in her salon, I'll have to ask her about it next time I'm there.
I really enjoyed DiCaprio in Gangs. He actually looked like a man <swoon> and he was not cloying. But I'm a sap and I even liked him in Titanic. :shrug: I haven't seen The Aviator though either. Why the hell am I commenting then? ;)
I LOVED Titanic. I thought it was well done. I know it was a tired ole class warfare love story, but the romantic setting just knocked me over. I did not really care about him too much in that because Kate W. outshone him and IMO Kathy Bates' portrayal of Milly Brown stole the show :cool:
I LOVED Gangs - but the storyline to me bordered on far fetched - or at least to confusing, esp. the end riots. I get that MS was going for the end of an era (represented by Bill - which was the best portrayal in Day Lewis' BRILIIANT career including Age of Innocence which was a close second) - and the beginning of a new one rep. by Leo. D.'s character - but it did not play that well with me, though bad Scorsese is like pizza - even when it is bad, it is still pretty good :laugh:
SuzeQuze
01-25-2005, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=strandinthewind]I LOVED Titanic. I thought it was well done. I know it was a tired ole class warfare love story, but the romantic setting just knocked me over. I did not really care about him too much in that because Kate W. outshone him and IMO Kathy Bates' portrayal of Milly Brown stole the show :cool:
I LOVED Gangs - but the storyline to me bordered on far fetched - or at least to confusing, esp. the end riots. I get that MS was going for the end of an era (represented by Bill - which was the best portrayal in Day Lewis' BRILIIANT career including Age of Innocence which was a close second) - and the beginning of a new one rep. by Leo. D.'s character - but it did not play that well with me, though bad Scorsese is like pizza - even when it is bad, it is still pretty good :laugh:[/QUOTE
Wow strand, I am pleased that you would admit you LOVED Titanic because I did too and am just chicken to admit it I guess, hehe. This movie had me spellbound before it even came out and I just HAD to see it opening night which is completely not my style. I usually wait for the fuss to die down a bit. I was entranced.
There definitely was something missing in Gangs' story, the first hour was awesome and trailed off from there. I've got to see it again to comment further because I don't remember the nuances of the film. I thought DiCaprio was hunky though ;) :swoon:
amber
01-25-2005, 09:31 PM
I thought Titanic was ok. I wish Cathy Bates was in every scene, though. Winslet's performance was a little too affected and precious for me...overall it was a pretty ok movie, though. BTW, you guys are not alone in loving it, judging by the box office... :D
SuzeQuze
01-25-2005, 09:48 PM
I thought Titanic was ok. I wish Cathy Bates was in every scene, though. Winslet's performance was a little too affected and precious for me...overall it was a pretty ok movie, though. BTW, you guys are not alone in loving it, judging by the box office... :D
Bates was awesome, "What's wrong with you people!"
You know, there was a thing in Kate's voice that aggravated me, the affectation you may also be thinking of. It is especially pronounced in the scene where she discovers his sketches. But I was just caught up in it all, I actually identified with her character pretty strongly because at the time I was about to marry someone I was not in love with. But I didn't do it.
Nixxxed
01-25-2005, 10:37 PM
I haven't seen Ray, but why is everyone peeing themselves over Jamie Foxx? I mean, I like him OK, but what was so great about his performance? Is it because he impersonated/recreated Ray Charles so well? Or because it's his first "real" acting gig (as opposed to just being a goofball on In Living Color and crap like Booty Call)? :shrug:
I'm not sure how I feel about a BAOscar going to someone just because he can act exactly like someone else, especially when Ray Charles advised Jamie while filming the movie.
But, on the other hand, I still always secretly wished Faye Dunaway woulda snagged a statue for Mommy Dearest! I mean, just for having the nerve... :laugh: :nod:
amber
01-25-2005, 10:39 PM
But, on the other hand, I still always secretly wished Faye Dunaway woulda snagged a statue for Mommy Dearest! I mean, just for having the nerve... :laugh: :nod:
:laugh: :lol: :laugh:
I second that!!!!
strandinthewind
01-26-2005, 08:44 PM
I haven't seen Ray, but why is everyone peeing themselves over Jamie Foxx? I mean, I like him OK, but what was so great about his performance? Is it because he impersonated/recreated Ray Charles so well? Or because it's his first "real" acting gig (as opposed to just being a goofball on In Living Color and crap like Booty Call)? :shrug:
I'm not sure how I feel about a BAOscar going to someone just because he can act exactly like someone else, especially when Ray Charles advised Jamie while filming the movie.
But, on the other hand, I still always secretly wished Faye Dunaway woulda snagged a statue for Mommy Dearest! I mean, just for having the nerve... :laugh: :nod:
Plus, she was FABULOUS in the part - I mean she looked and had the same mannerisms as Joan C. :shrug: But, she did not dirty herself up or play a deaf mute or retarded person - thus she lose IMO. I mean those are the roles that seemingly get it - to wit: SH in Rainman, CT in Monster, SF in Norma Rae, JR in Erin B. (she was so out of glamour for that), etc.
Serrart
01-27-2005, 06:25 PM
Plus, she was FABULOUS in the part - I mean she looked and had the same mannerisms as Joan C. :shrug: But, she did not dirty herself up or play a deaf mute or retarded person - thus she lose IMO. I mean those are the roles that seemingly get it - to wit: SH in Rainman, CT in Monster, SF in Norma Rae, JR in Erin B. (she was so out of glamour for that), etc.
I like Faye Dunaway (most of the time), but that movie was a badly made character assassination, and her performance seemed a parody, IMO. :shrug:
Romy
amber
01-27-2005, 06:27 PM
I like Faye Dunaway (most of the time), but that movie was a badly made character assassination, and her performance seemed a parody, IMO. :shrug:
Romy
I agree, but it was such a bold, magnificent, scene chewing parody. :)
I love Miss Dunaway as well, though i think half of it may just be my love of looking at her face. :p I'm awed at her gorgeousness...
Serrart
01-27-2005, 06:33 PM
I agree, but it was such a bold, magnificent, scene chewing parody. :)
I love Miss Dunaway as well, though i think half of it may just be my love of looking at her face. :p I'm awed at her gorgeousness...
She has that kind of appeal of some '40/'50 movie stars, and in movies like Chinatown or Network she's really amazing. :nod:
Romy
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 06:50 PM
I agree, but it was such a bold, magnificent, scene chewing parody. :)
I love Miss Dunaway as well, though i think half of it may just be my love of looking at her face. :p I'm awed at her gorgeousness...
Me too. Faye Dunaway is gorge. :nod:
amber
01-27-2005, 07:02 PM
Me too. Faye Dunaway is gorge. :nod:
totally. I swear i'd give up something reeeaaallly valuable for those cheekbones! :laugh: :p
dissention
01-27-2005, 07:06 PM
She has that kind of appeal of some '40/'50 movie stars, and in movies like Chinatown or Network she's really amazing. :nod:
Romy
Network! Fave.Movie.Ever. :woohoo:
amber
01-27-2005, 07:11 PM
Network! Fave.Movie.Ever. :woohoo:
:nod: :nod: Supermagnificent.
Serrart
01-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Network! Fave.Movie.Ever. :woohoo:
One of my all time favourites too... the cast is amazing, Peter Finch is superb and William Holden gave his greatest performance in it, IMO. :nod:
Romy
dissention
01-27-2005, 07:18 PM
:nod: :nod: Supermagnificent.
Superfantastiche it is. :laugh: Everything about it is perfect. It's hilarious.
But I have so many favorite movies that it's ridiculous. :laugh: My top ones would have to be Heathers, Network, Wendigo, Rocky Horror, and 3 Women. For now, at least. :laugh:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 07:21 PM
I like Faye Dunaway (most of the time), but that movie was a badly made character assassination, and her performance seemed a parody, IMO. :shrug:
Romy
I guess that is the point, Joan Crawford WAS larger than life :cool:
amber
01-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Superfantastiche it is. :laugh: Everything about it is perfect. It's hilarious.
But I have so many favorite movies that it's ridiculous. :laugh: My top ones would have to be Heathers, Network, Wendigo, Rocky Horror, and 3 Women. For now, at least. :laugh:
Interesting List. those are good movies.
I would say All About Eve, Le 'Ete Murtrier, Party Girl.
But i like a million others. Network is actually up there, too, but i've only seen it twice, so... :p
dissention
01-27-2005, 07:57 PM
Interesting List. those are good movies.
I would say All About Eve, Le 'Ete Murtrier, Party Girl.
But i like a million others. Network is actually up there, too, but i've only seen it twice, so... :p
The two of us could go on all night about our favorite movies. There are just too many to name.
Who's going first? :lol:
amber
01-27-2005, 08:02 PM
The two of us could go on all night about our favorite movies. There are just too many to name.
Who's going first? :lol:
:laugh: :lol: I guess so. But you've seen waay more movies than I have, probably, so...
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 08:34 PM
I am breaking in here and saying Sunset Blvd. is my fav. of all time. Swanson was superb as was the score.
Others include (in no particular order)
Gone With the Wind - Leigh and Gable - SWOON
All About Eve - Bette at her best and Monroe almost steals it from her in the scenes they are in
Out of Africa - Streep at her best
The Nightmare Before Christmas - great execution and clever theme
The Age of Innocence - BRILLIANT
Now Voyager - Oh Davis in melodrama - "I'm not afraid"
Sadie Thompson (remaining reels) - Swanson's best silent IMO
Born Yesterday - hysterical
Lord of the Rings (the trilody) - breathtaking and epic
Star Wars - ground breaking
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There are many many more - but those come to mind now :cool:
amber
01-27-2005, 08:39 PM
I am breaking in here and saying Sunset Blvd. is my fav. of all time. Swanson was superb as was the score.
Others include (in no particular order)
Gone With the Wind - Leigh and Gable - SWOON
All About Eve - Bette at her best and Monroe almost steals it from her in the scenes they are in
Out of Africa - Streep at her best
The Nightmare Before Christmas - great execution and clever theme
The Age of Innocence - BRILLIANT
Now Voyager - Oh Davis in melodrama - "I'm not afraid"
Sadie Thompson (remaining reels) - Swanson's best silent IMO
Born Yesterday - hysterical
Lord of the Rings (the trilody) - breathtaking and epic
Star Wars - ground breaking
_____________________________________________________
There are many many more - but those come to mind now :cool:
Ok, you know I love your list. Exceptions include Star Wars and LOTR. I know they are good, just not my faves. How could i leave out GWTW?
But, I do have to say...I love Marilyn, but she didn't almost steal anything from anyone. She was just prettier. And - the scene outside Marilyn's failed audition that was really for Eve, when Bette just finds out before she goes in and throws her magnificent tantrum? I barely noticed MM on the screen. :cool:
dissention
01-27-2005, 08:43 PM
I am breaking in here and saying Sunset Blvd. is my fav. of all time. Swanson was superb as was the score.
Others include (in no particular order)
Gone With the Wind - Leigh and Gable - SWOON
All About Eve - Bette at her best and Monroe almost steals it from her in the scenes they are in
Out of Africa - Streep at her best
The Nightmare Before Christmas - great execution and clever theme
The Age of Innocence - BRILLIANT
Now Voyager - Oh Davis in melodrama - "I'm not afraid"
Sadie Thompson (remaining reels) - Swanson's best silent IMO
Born Yesterday - hysterical
Lord of the Rings (the trilody) - breathtaking and epic
Star Wars - ground breaking
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There are many many more - but those come to mind now :cool:
We would so not get along in a video store. :cool: :laugh: I'd go running out the door in an instant. :laugh:
amber
01-27-2005, 08:45 PM
Oh, and I would like to add "Jezebel" to my favorite movies list...and..."The Letter" - a cheesy masterpiece directed by William Wyler. :)
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 08:51 PM
We would so not get along in a video store. :cool: :laugh: I'd go running out the door in an instant. :laugh:
I like others as well and most of the ones you listed here and elsewhere.
We would clash only in that I am not a huge Indie fan. The lack of production value in almost all distracts me. Take Garden State - it was a nice movie with BRILLIANT moments (esp. from Jean Smart), but an amateur production. But, I do like some Indies like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, almost all John Waters' films, etc.
dissention
01-27-2005, 08:55 PM
I like others as well and most of the ones you listed here and elsewhere.
We would clash only in that I am not a huge Indie fan. The lack of production value in almost all distracts me. Take Garden State - it was a nice movie with BRILLIANT moments (esp. from Jean Smart), but an amateur production. But, I do like some Indies like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, almost all John Waters' films, etc.
Those movies are my bread and butter. :laugh:
I love every kind of movie, but the stuff Hollywood churns out these days is unbearable to me. It's just so bad.
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 08:55 PM
Ok, you know I love your list. Exceptions include Star Wars and LOTR. I know they are good, just not my faves. How could i leave out GWTW?
But, I do have to say...I love Marilyn, but she didn't almost steal anything from anyone. She was just prettier. And - the scene outside Marilyn's failed audition that was really for Eve, when Bette just finds out before she goes in and throws her magnificent tantrum? I barely noticed MM on the screen. :cool:
I think when she says "Well I couldn't say hey butler now could I" or something like that - she is brilliant. But, Davis is pretty hard to eclipse :laugh: "All that FIRE AND MUSIC" - "I may have seen better days, but I am sure I am not to be had for the price of a cocktail - like a salted peanut" :eek: :laugh:
Also on the list:
Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte - WHAT do you think I invited you here for - COMPANY?" - "You're a mean vile sorry little bitch!" :laugh:
The Breakfast Club - Ringwold dancing in that one does it for me everytime :laugh:
The Silence of the Lambs and, though not as much - Hannible - It puts the lotion on its skin :eek:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 08:58 PM
Those movies are my bread and butter. :laugh:
I love every kind of movie, but the stuff Hollywood churns out these days is unbearable to me. It's just so bad.
Not all of it - I think there were some recent winners - I think Iris was great (though that was really more of an Indie with a famous cast) - I also liked Ray, Being Julia, the one about the British abortionist, Phantom of the Opera (beautiful music beautiful cast - SHEEBUS :laugh: ) , Collateral, and a few others. But, yes, there is a lot of junk out there :cool:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 09:01 PM
Oh, and I would like to add "Jezebel" to my favorite movies list...and..."The Letter" - a cheesy masterpiece directed by William Wyler. :)
Jezebel was FAB., esp the end when she "redeems" herself by going to the Yellow Fever Island with the man she loves :eek: :laugh:
As for The Letter - I liked it - but PHEW MELODRAMA :laugh:
I also like The Lost Weekend and Come back Little Sheba - though they are both hard to watch.
I thought A Place in the Sun was magnificent SOLELY for La Taylor in her first scene in that dress and her completely unware air - PHEW
I also LOVED Whose Afraid of Virginia Wolf - In many ways I lived on a daily basis that entire movie with my ex :eek: :laugh:
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01-27-2005, 09:03 PM
Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte - WHAT do you think I invited you here for - COMPANY?" - "You're a mean vile sorry little bitch!" :laugh:
The Silence of the Lambs and, though not as much - Hannible - It puts the lotion on its skin :eek:
LOVE Sweet Charlotte. I like to watch that one, Straight Jacket with Crawford, and The Bad Seed all in a row. :laugh:
Did you ever read the book for Hannibal? My, how they butchered it for the movie. :shocked:
Let's see, other favorites are:
Ruthless People - "I've been kidnapped by K-Mart!"
The Saddest Music In the World- Isabella Rossellini is FABULOUS
Dawn of the Dead (remake)- Don't ask me why, but I *love* this movie and it's not because Jake Weber is in it :cool:
Don't Look Now- Scary as all get out, the first movie that really freaked me out
Dogville- Loooooooooove this movie
In the Spirit- If I ever met anyone else who has seen this, I'd DIE
Pretty much anything with/by Elaine May
Most Woody Allen movies
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01-27-2005, 09:04 PM
Not all of it - I think there were some recent winners - I think Iris was great (though that was really more of an Indie with a famous cast) - I also liked Ray, Being Julia, the one about the British abortionist, Phantom of the Opera (beautiful music beautiful cast - SHEEBUS :laugh: ) , Collateral, and a few others. But, yes, there is a lot of junk out there :cool:
Vera Drake is all indie. That's a Mike Leigh flick. :nod: Being Julia was quite the rarity, that was fabulous.
Ray did nothing for me. Collateral was good, I thought. Couldn't pay me to see Phantom, unfortunately. :laugh:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 09:16 PM
. . . The Bad Seed all in a row. :laugh:
WHERE DID YOU PUT THOSE SHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE IT - esp. Evelyn Varden - "Christine - have you been taking your vitamens . . . well, I'm LARGE" AND Eileen Heckart slurring "Who knew Rhods had so many social obligations" :eek:
Did you ever read the book for Hannibal? My, how they butchered it for the movie. :shocked:
The book was GREAT - the movie was a pale representation, but Moore was GREAT in it as was Hopkins and most of the others :cool:
In the Spirit- If I ever met anyone else who has seen this, I'd DIE
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099841/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9aW4gdGhlIHNwaXJpdHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft =20;fm=1
:wavey: :wavey: - what size and color would you like your casket :laugh:
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01-27-2005, 09:23 PM
WHERE DID YOU PUT THOSE SHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE IT - esp. Evelyn Varden - "Christine - have you been taking your vitamens . . . well, I'm LARGE" AND Eileen Heckart slurring "Who knew Rhods had so many social obligations" :eek:
Eileen Heckart will always be one of my faves simply based on that performance alone. :cool: LOVE her in that movie. And I kinda dug how they changed the ending from the original play.
The book was GREAT - the movie was a pale representation, but Moore was GREAT in it as was Hopkins and most of the others :cool:
Well, I thought the book sucked major ass (ESPECIALLY the dinner scene and the ending, it came out of left ****ing field and I loathed it), but they missed the boat by deleting the bodybuilder sister. What a fudge up.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099841/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9aW4gdGhlIHNwaXJpdHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft =20;fm=1
:wavey: :wavey: - what size and color would you like your casket :laugh:
NO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!! :eek: :lol:
That is one of my all-time favorite movies. My tape is literally worn out, the colors are so muted at this point that it's almost black and white. I am so in love with that one. Put it on DVD, for cripes sake! That scene where Peter Falk faints and Marlo Thomas gives him a Shirley Maclaine book? Priceless.
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 09:33 PM
I think when she says "Well I couldn't say hey butler now could I" or something like that - she is brilliant. But, Davis is pretty hard to eclipse :laugh: "All that FIRE AND MUSIC" - "I may have seen better days, but I am sure I am not to be had for the price of a cocktail - like a salted peanut" :eek: :laugh:
I love that line. :laugh: Of course, I love everything about MM. All About Eve is awesome.
I love the Misfits, too. :nod:
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 09:35 PM
LOVE Sweet Charlotte. I like to watch that one, Straight Jacket with Crawford, and The Bad Seed all in a row. :laugh:
Sweet Charlotte is great. I Love Whatever Happened to Baby Jane too. Talk about the cinema's finest campy bitchfest. :woohoo:
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01-27-2005, 09:39 PM
Sweet Charlotte is great. I Love Whatever Happened to Baby Jane too. Talk about the cinema's finest campy bitchfest. :woohoo:
Did you know that for the scene where Davis had to drag Crawford across the floor, Crawford put weights in her dress out of spite? :laugh:
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 09:42 PM
Did you know that for the scene where Davis had to drag Crawford across the floor, Crawford put weights in her dress out of spite? :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
Gotta love Crawford. One of our very first "divas."
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01-27-2005, 09:45 PM
:laugh: :laugh:
Gotta love Crawford. One of our very first "divas."
:nod:
And Davis retaliated by showing up on the set and yelling "Who do I have to f*ck to get a Coke around here?" every morning after Joan forced them to install Pepsi machines. :laugh:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 09:47 PM
:nod:
And Davis retaliated by showing up on the set and yelling "Who do I have to f*ck to get a Coke around here?" every morning after Joan forced them to install Pepsi machines. :laugh:
not to mention Davis really KICKED her in the kicking scene.
THEN - Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte was supposed to be the reprise - but Crawford pussed out :rolleyes:
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 09:54 PM
:nod:
And Davis retaliated by showing up on the set and yelling "Who do I have to f*ck to get a Coke around here?" every morning after Joan forced them to install Pepsi machines. :laugh:
:lol:
I miss the good old days in Hollywood... Now we have Julia Roberts. :eek:
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01-27-2005, 09:55 PM
not to mention Davis really KICKED her in the kicking scene.
THEN - Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte was supposed to be the reprise - but Crawford pussed out :rolleyes:
"Joan Crawford? I wouldn't sit on her toilet."
and my favorite-
"The only male star she hasn't screwed at MGM is Lassie."
:laugh:
GypsySorcerer
01-27-2005, 09:57 PM
"Joan Crawford? I wouldn't sit on her toilet."
and my favorite-
"The only male star she hasn't screwed at MGM is Lassie."
"laugh:
OMG!!! Priceless. :laugh:
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01-27-2005, 09:58 PM
OMG!!! Priceless. :laugh:
There's a reason Davis was known as "The Fifth Warner Brother." :lol:
strandinthewind
01-27-2005, 10:02 PM
"Joan Crawford? I wouldn't sit on her toilet."
and my favorite-
"The only male star she hasn't screwed at MGM is Lassie."
:laugh:
DEAD ya know :cool:
amber
01-28-2005, 01:56 AM
I think when she says "Well I couldn't say hey butler now could I" or something like that - she is brilliant. But, Davis is pretty hard to eclipse :laugh: "All that FIRE AND MUSIC" - "I may have seen better days, but I am sure I am not to be had for the price of a cocktail - like a salted peanut" :eek: :laugh:
Also on the list:
Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte - WHAT do you think I invited you here for - COMPANY?" - "You're a mean vile sorry little bitch!" :laugh:
The Breakfast Club - Ringwold dancing in that one does it for me everytime :laugh:
The Silence of the Lambs and, though not as much - Hannible - It puts the lotion on its skin :eek:
Oh, Marilyn was good, no doubt. But her and Bette didn't "mix" too much in the film, so it's hard to compare.
I *love* Hush Hush!!! love the song, too. Love Olivia DeHavilland. Love BC, Love Silence...love indie movies, though, too.
amber
01-28-2005, 01:58 AM
There's a reason Davis was known as "The Fifth Warner Brother." :lol:
There's the ever famous "She can't act her way out of a paper bag!"
Omigod, I can't believe i sold "Bette and Joan" :distress:
funniest. book.
Omigod, and when she did her tirade about Joan's fake tits? "she's supposed to be lying down, and her tits are sticking straight up!!"
:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Ah, Bette. I love you. There'll nevah be another... :p
amber
01-28-2005, 02:02 AM
not to mention Davis really KICKED her in the kicking scene.
THEN - Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte was supposed to be the reprise - but Crawford pussed out :rolleyes:
Which was good, cause i don't really like crawford. And, Olivia D and Bette had been friends for years (a cancer and an aries - who woulda thought?)
so that was nice for them. And the movie was still great...
Did you ever see that weird Carnival movie with joan crawford? with murders and stuff?
That movie could give me nightmares, I swear. But i've always thought joan crawford was scary, and had the depth of...oh, Julia Roberts? :laugh: In an Aries way, of course... :p
amber
01-28-2005, 02:06 AM
I love that line. :laugh: Of course, I love everything about MM. All About Eve is awesome.
I love the Misfits, too. :nod:
I loved MM too, but i was more interested in her life...I thought the misfits was a good movie, but her performances are always exceedingly strange to me, and this movie is no exception. She was good, but she's so strange...
My favorite movie with her is "Some Like It Hot" - but that's just a great movie all around, Billy Wilder is magnificent. Love "The Seven Year Itch" too. Bus Stop is sort of embarrassing to me, for some reason..."Niagra" is a neat little movie, I thought she was well cast in that. And did you know it has the longest "walking away" shot in cinema history? Ie - Ass Shot! :laugh: I love it, cause that's about the shape of my lower body... :D
Anyways. :p
GypsySorcerer
01-28-2005, 02:19 AM
I loved MM too, but i was more interested in her life...I thought the misfits was a good movie, but her performances are always exceedingly strange to me, and this movie is no exception. She was good, but she's so strange...
My favorite movie with her is "Some Like It Hot" - but that's just a great movie all around, Billy Wilder is magnificent. Love "The Seven Year Itch" too. Bus Stop is sort of embarrassing to me, for some reason..."Niagra" is a neat little movie, I thought she was well cast in that. And did you know it has the longest "walking away" shot in cinema history? Ie - Ass Shot! :laugh: I love it, cause that's about the shape of my lower body... :D
Anyways. :p
"Bus Stop" is not so good. Her accent is way off, and she and her love interest had no chemistry at all. I have never understood why so many consider it to be her best performance.
"Some Like it Hot" is great. Have you ever seen "Don't Bother to Knock"? She plays a great loon in it. Probably didn't have to act too much. :laugh:
GypsySorcerer
01-28-2005, 02:21 AM
"Niagra" is a neat little movie, I thought she was well cast in that. And did you know it has the longest "walking away" shot in cinema history? Ie - Ass Shot! :laugh: I love it, cause that's about the shape of my lower body... :D
Anyways. :p
:D
She looked very pretty in that movie. I love the "Kiss" song scene where she's in that red dress and the other women are in plain outfits. That movie really did establish her as the bombshell.
amber
01-28-2005, 02:24 AM
"Bus Stop" is not so good. Her accent is way off, and she and her love interest had no chemistry at all. I have never understood why so many consider it to be her best performance.
"Some Like it Hot" is great. Have you ever seen "Don't Bother to Knock"? She plays a great loon in it. Probably didn't have to act to much. :laugh:
Omigosh, that's exactly right about Bus Stop! Man, that guy ruined the movie, I thought. :mad: Noooooooo chemistry, or alike acting, or anything.
I've seen Don't Bother - but vaguely...I got interested in MM when we didn't have a VCR, and i had to pore over the TV listings, and wake up at weird hours to watch her movies, and beg my parents to let me watch them... :rolleyes: I thought she was good in DBTK - it was a little bit more of an understated performance. Still, her acting is very strange to me. she sure was cute/pretty, though...and seriously, I love the audacity of her ass... :laugh: "that ass was me!!!! yeahahehaeh!!!" :laugh:
GypsySorcerer
01-28-2005, 02:29 AM
Omigosh, that's exactly right about Bus Stop! Man, that guy ruined the movie, I thought. :mad: Noooooooo chemistry, or alike acting, or anything.
I've seen Don't Bother - but vaguely...I got interested in MM when we didn't have a VCR, and i had to pore over the TV listings, and wake up at weird hours to watch her movies, and beg my parents to let me watch them... :rolleyes: I thought she was good in DBTK - it was a little bit more of an understated performance. Still, her acting is very strange to me. she sure was cute/pretty, though...and seriously, I love the audacity of her ass... :laugh: "that ass was me!!!! yeahahehaeh!!!" :laugh:
She joked about putting her ass print in Grauman's Theater. :laugh:
Her acting was pretty stiff, and I think she relied too heavily on her coaches. Still, she was magnetic. But you're right, her personal life is more interesting than anything.
amber
01-28-2005, 02:35 AM
She joked about putting her ass print in Grauman's Theater. :laugh:
Her acting was pretty stiff, and I think she relied too heavily on her coaches. Still, she was magnetic. But you're right, her personal life is more interesting than anything.
I know, she shoulda put that ass there. It's an ass for the ages... :laugh:
I agree about her acting. I don't think she really was a very natural actress - with a few exceptions. But from studying her chart, I understand. Yes, she did rely on her coaches, but i think they actually helped her. A gemini with moon in aquarius will have a hard time accessing any "natural" emotions. :shrug:
The power of her personality was strong, luckily. For her best performance, and being cast the best, I would have to vote for "Niagra" or maybe..."the misfits" - but the misfits would definitely be behind niagra...
amber
01-28-2005, 03:56 AM
Jezebel was FAB., esp the end when she "redeems" herself by going to the Yellow Fever Island with the man she loves :eek: :laugh:
As for The Letter - I liked it - but PHEW MELODRAMA :laugh:
I also like The Lost Weekend and Come back Little Sheba - though they are both hard to watch.
I thought A Place in the Sun was magnificent SOLELY for La Taylor in her first scene in that dress and her completely unware air - PHEW
I also LOVED Whose Afraid of Virginia Wolf - In many ways I lived on a daily basis that entire movie with my ex :eek: :laugh:
DUDE!!! We have to get together to watch movies!! :D
Although, I didn't think "The Letter" was as melodramatic as you. Not for Bette, at least. And how great was Gale Sondergaard?
Omigosh, I love WAOVW!!! I did a monologue from that, my senior year. :D
but i always enjoyed the strangeness and subtelty of Sandra's performance....
in addition to the main player's great performances...but Sandra was my fav.! She was so weird and perfect.
But - i've never seen A Place In the Sun, or Come Back Little Sheba -
I don't love Liz Taylor as a great actress, but she has done some great acting. I do love her for her great beauty... :D
tynan88
01-28-2005, 04:13 AM
Wow, I feel young hehe, I have not even heard of these movies, I know who Joan Collins is but it took me ages to figure out who Davis was hehe, I thought they were from two different eras.
Tynan
amber
01-28-2005, 04:24 AM
Wow, I feel young hehe, I have not even heard of these movies, I know who Joan Collins is but it took me ages to figure out who Davis was hehe, I thought they were from two different eras.
Tynan
Well, they are, really. Although Davis starred with Collins in one movie...about Queen Elizabeth. - Collins was much younger than Davis, and apparently, they didn't get along.. :D I think it was called "The Virgin Queen"... :wavey:
not like you care... :laugh:
tynan88
01-28-2005, 06:16 AM
I do care I just didn't know this, all this sounds very interesting!
Tynan
strandinthewind
01-28-2005, 10:01 AM
Well, they are, really. Although Davis starred with Collins in one movie...about Queen Elizabeth. - Collins was much younger than Davis, and apparently, they didn't get along.. :D I think it was called "The Virgin Queen"... :wavey:
not like you care... :laugh:
I LOVE that movie - it is a little silly - but BD as Elizabeth Regina screams at her servant about Joan Collins' character - "GET THE STRUMPET OUT OF MY CHAMBER" or something like that - I LOVE that she used "strumpet" :laugh:
Nixxxed
01-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Which was good, cause i don't really like crawford. And, Olivia D and Bette had been friends for years (a cancer and an aries - who woulda thought?)
so that was nice for them. And the movie was still great...
Did you ever see that weird Carnival movie with joan crawford? with murders and stuff?
That movie could give me nightmares, I swear. But i've always thought joan crawford was scary, and had the depth of...oh, Julia Roberts? :laugh: In an Aries way, of course... :p
OHMIGOD -- "Berserk!" Joan played the circus owner and ringleader. My roommate and I watched that one 3 times in a row, just cackling with laughter...
Joan: "Whattya trying to do, RUIN MY CIRCUS?!?!?!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
amber
01-28-2005, 01:39 PM
OHMIGOD -- "Berserk!" Joan played the circus owner and ringleader. My roommate and I watched that one 3 times in a row, just cackling with laughter...
Joan: "Whattya trying to do, RUIN MY CIRCUS?!?!?!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
Yeah, Berserk. :) 3 times in a row? that's hilarious...
strandinthewind
01-28-2005, 01:42 PM
OHMIGOD -- "Berserk!" Joan played the circus owner and ringleader. My roommate and I watched that one 3 times in a row, just cackling with laughter...
Joan: "Whattya trying to do, RUIN MY CIRCUS?!?!?!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Do I have to bring up TROG!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066492/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9dHJvZ3xodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=20;fm=1
dissention
01-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Do I have to bring up TROG!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066492/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9dHJvZ3xodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=20;fm=1
Please don't. I still haven't recovered from viewing it.
amber
01-28-2005, 01:45 PM
Do I have to bring up TROG!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066492/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9dHJvZ3xodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=20;fm=1
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
I'm sooo glad you brought up TROG!
"From a million years back...Horror explodes into today! " :laugh:
strandinthewind
01-28-2005, 01:47 PM
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
I'm sooo glad you brought up TROG!
"From a million years back...Horror explodes into today! " :laugh:
IT IS A CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Nixxxed
01-28-2005, 01:55 PM
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
Yeah, Berserk. :) 3 times in a row? that's hilarious...
We fast-forwarded through the actual circus scenes (which didn't really match the rest of the movie). We just wanted to see who was going to be killed next. :laugh: We didn't know what we were renting when we got it, but when the dead guy swinging from the trapeze rig made the title come up on the screen ( B E R S E R K ! ), we knew we'd got something good. :nod:
Our other favorite part was when Joan was trying to seduce the young hunky guy, when she was so OBVIOUSLY pushing 60...
amber
01-28-2005, 03:26 PM
Our other favorite part was when Joan was trying to seduce the young hunky guy, when she was so OBVIOUSLY pushing 60...
I know, that was classic... :laugh:
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