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01-21-2005, 11:58 AM
From the American College Of Pediatricians January 22, 2004
http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=22&art=50&BISKIT=711636269
Risks of Homosexual Lifestyle to Children
Violence among homosexual partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples. Homosexual partnerships are significantly more prone to dissolution than heterosexual marriages with the average homosexual relationship lasting only two to three years. Homosexual men and women are reported to be inordinately promiscuous involving serial sex partners, even within what are loosely-termed "committed relationships." Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies, and shortened life spans. Although some would claim that these dysfunctions are a result of societal pressures in America, the same dysfunctions exist at inordinately high levels among homosexuals in cultures were the practice is more widely accepted. Children reared in homosexual households are more likely to experience sexual confusion, practice homosexual behavior, and engage in sexual experimentation. Adolescents and young adults who adopt the homosexual lifestyle, like their adult counterparts, are at increased risk of mental health problems, including major depression, anxiety disorder, conduct disorder, substance dependence, and especially suicidal ideation and suicide attempts.
Conclusion
The research literature on childrearing by homosexual parents is limited. The environment in which children are reared is absolutely critical to their development. Given the current body of research, the American College of Pediatricians believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children, and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on homosexual parenting, whether by adoption, foster care, or by reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science. :nod: :cool:
Serrart
01-21-2005, 12:20 PM
:shocked: Excuse me, but what is that exactly? It's far away from an acceptable scientific article. And honestly a college that has as a mission "expect societal forces to support the two-parent, father-mother family unit and provide for children role models of ethical character and responsible behavior", seems to me more a political group than a scientic association. JMHO
Romy
markolas
01-21-2005, 12:23 PM
Yeah, the article is unscientific, filled with falsehoods, and slanders every gay and lesbian on the planet. I'd love to see this thread removed. :D
markolas
01-21-2005, 12:28 PM
Conclusion
You're a ****-stirring loony who'll go anywhere and steal anything to make you feel legitimate in your prejudice.
:nod: :nod: :nod:
ontheEdgeof17
01-21-2005, 12:54 PM
I think someone is having insecurities with their own sexual identity....Hence the continuous threads about homosexuality.
...and yet again, I don't care. :wavey:
Gimme a cookie. I haven't said anything about "gays" in awhile.
greatdarkwing
01-21-2005, 12:55 PM
Gimme a cookie. I haven't said anything about "gays" in awhile.
Whats your address? :laugh:
~Alex
SuzeQuze
01-21-2005, 01:05 PM
I think someone is having insecurities with their own sexual identity....Hence the continuous threads about homosexuality.
...and yet again, I don't care. :wavey:
Gimme a cookie. I haven't said anything about "gays" in awhile.
Hey nice Go Go's quote, Curtis! :wavey: Here's a cookie.
http://www.shiokadelicious.com/shiokadelicious/big_chunky_chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg
½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
01-21-2005, 01:07 PM
I found the link on a message board and it’s for information purposes only.. I was hoping to see a few opinions and thanks for dropping in. :wavey: It’s a thread no different than the one strandinthewind posted about SpongeBob and no it shouldn’t be deleted. :)
ontheEdgeof17
01-21-2005, 01:08 PM
Hey nice Go Go's quote, Curtis! :wavey: Here's a cookie.
http://www.shiokadelicious.com/shiokadelicious/big_chunky_chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg
Thanks Alex, but this one looks realllllllllllly good.
I'm craving a Subway cookie now. Those are the best! :woohoo:
SuzeQuze
01-21-2005, 01:10 PM
Thanks Alex, but this one looks realllllllllllly good.
I'm craving a Subway cookie now. Those are the best! :woohoo:
It does. And I just saw a girl at the cafe with 2 cookies and I was like, "Oh I wish I could have one of those...". Dude, I am seriously salivating!
greatdarkwing
01-21-2005, 01:11 PM
Thanks Alex, but this one looks realllllllllllly good.
I'm craving a Subway cookie now. Those are the best! :woohoo:
I cant eat cookies anymore... :( Looking good comes at a price...but I used to LOVE Subway cookies, as well as Burger King cookies (drools...)
I also miss cheesecake :mad:
ontheEdgeof17
01-21-2005, 01:14 PM
I cant eat cookies anymore... :( Looking good comes at a price...but I used to LOVE Subway cookies, as well as Burger King cookies (drools...)
I also miss cheesecake :mad:
I don't eat sweets anyway. During the middle of a lecture on Pituitary disorders, I did crave a Reese's cup and got one a break. I couldn't resist.
ontheEdgeof17
01-21-2005, 01:15 PM
It does. And I just saw a girl at the cafe with 2 cookies and I was like, "Oh I wish I could have one of those...". Dude, I am seriously salivating!
The M&M/Choc. Chip combo cookies are the best! I haven't had one in a reallllllllllly long time. I try not to look at them.
greatdarkwing
01-21-2005, 01:16 PM
I don't eat sweets anyway. During the middle of a lecture on Pituitary disorders, I did crave a Reese's cup and got one a break. I couldn't resist.
They say its just always best to satisfy your cravings in small doses. For example, every now and then I'll get a chocolate craving, so what I do is buy those multi-pack hershey mini-bars (with mr goodbar and milk/dark chocolate) and I'll eat 2 to satisfy the cravings. I also buy those 60 calorie fudge pops and every now and then ill fight a craving with 1 of those.
gldstwmn
01-21-2005, 01:16 PM
I found the link on a message board and it’s for information purposes only.. I was hoping to see a few opinions and thanks for dropping in. :wavey: It’s a thread no different than the one strandinthewind posted about SpongeBob and no it shouldn’t be deleted. :)
Your link is not from a credible news organization and it's clearly an op-ed piece not "news." Huge difference.
SuzeQuze
01-21-2005, 01:33 PM
The M&M/Choc. Chip combo cookies are the best! I haven't had one in a reallllllllllly long time. I try not to look at them.
Mmm, sounds yummy. I make a mean cookie, the secret is using real butter! I just had a lollipop to satisfy that raging sweets craving. I'm okay, just can't look at that cookie pic again!
estranged4life
01-21-2005, 01:41 PM
Mmm, sounds yummy. I make a mean cookie, the secret is using real butter! I just had a lollipop to satisfy that raging sweets craving. I'm okay, just can't look at that cookie pic again!
all this talk of cookies may cause the relig-a-tards in the world to claim Sesame Street's "Cookie Monster" is either a pedophile or gay (Last time I look he was made of carpet fabric, Kinda hard to be gay when yer nuthin' but a piece of blue carpet...But I am sure the relig-a-tards will say he is gay since there's a hand up his ass :rolleyes: )
Seriously, As long as a child has a safe home environment and is not neglected I have no problem with Gay/Lesbian couples raising the child...Children want love, Plain and simple as that!
seeker007nmss
01-21-2005, 01:45 PM
Gimme a cookie. I haven't said anything about "gays" in awhile.
Yes, lets discuss cookies instead. Is there such a thing as a bad cookie? (Well maybe low carb bran cookies....but it isn't their fault) :)
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 01:52 PM
They say its just always best to satisfy your cravings in small doses. For example, every now and then I'll get a chocolate craving, so what I do is buy those multi-pack hershey mini-bars (with mr goodbar and milk/dark chocolate) and I'll eat 2 to satisfy the cravings. I also buy those 60 calorie fudge pops and every now and then ill fight a craving with 1 of those.
See that doesn't work for me - I'd eat two and think - ah two more won't hurt me - before I know it I'd eat the whole bag in one sitting :laugh:
I have serious issues with sweets - I can't have them around at all - or I eat them...ALL....I'm SUCH a choco-holic....so I should clarify - I can't have chocolate sweets around - if it doesn't have chocolate I am not so interested :p
heyjupiter678
01-21-2005, 02:02 PM
Is there such a thing as a bad cookie? I don't believe so. Seriously, cookies are my weakness. Chocolate Chip, Soft Ginger, Oatmeal, Sugar, Shortbread . . . Oh, wait, there <i>is</i> such a thing as a bad cookie. The Danish Wedding Cookie. Those? are nasty. (Or maybe it's just the ones my mom bakes?) :shrug:
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 02:37 PM
How about those Pepperidge Farm cookies? I really like the Chessmen and Chantilly ones. :nod: :]
irishgrl
01-21-2005, 03:00 PM
Conclusion
The research literature on childrearing by homosexual parents is limited
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I agree. maybe the authors of this article should have started with that premise....
I think that this is something that should certainly be looked at, but it should be noted that there is plenty of violence in hetero relationships, its just that many women dont make reports or they are not taken seriously if they do.
Personally I think its too soon for an article of this nature to be written simply because gay partners have not been "parenting" all that long. I think, in order for this type of research to be taken seriously, you would need to study ADULT children whose parents were gay/lesbian.
Sorcerer386
01-21-2005, 03:28 PM
Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies, and shortened life spans. Although some would claim that these dysfunctions are a result of societal pressures in America, the same dysfunctions exist at inordinately high levels among homosexuals in cultures were the practice is more widely accepted.
All you have to do is look at this section to realize it's certainly not scientific. Scientific writing has a quality of sounding unrhetorical, so they certainly would not pose a refutation, which is a purely rhetorical technique. Plus, the whole thing is active voice, another purely rhetorical technique. What do you know? My communications major DOES serve a purpose!
dissention
01-21-2005, 03:31 PM
Yes, lets discuss cookies instead. Is there such a thing as a bad cookie? (Well maybe low carb bran cookies....but it isn't their fault) :)
:laugh: I am a whore for anything with "bran" in it's title. :laugh:
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 03:56 PM
:laugh: I am a whore for anything with "bran" in it's title. :laugh:
Really? I've never known anyone who is a fan of bran....that's kind of odd...
Though I love when the bran flakes get all mushy in raisin bran :D
dissention
01-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Really? I've never known anyone who is a fan of bran....that's kind of odd...
Though I love when the bran flakes get all mushy in raisin bran :D
1. Bran is healthy.
2. Bran is good for your system, if you catch my drift.
3. Bran has so much fiber in it that it's like you're eating air, you can eat as much as you want and not gain anything.
4. Bran has all GOOD carbs.
I usually have bran muffins every morning. :laugh:
dissention
01-21-2005, 04:11 PM
All this cookie talk is confusing me. Well firstly we call them biscuits, but I got the cookie part down. I won't bother asking what they all are because it really doesn't matter to me either way, but there are bran cookies? I mean, I know that's not ridiculous in itself but there are plain bran ones, nothing else to them? Hmmm maybe I took the cookie talk too seriously.
The ones I buy are sweetened with sugar substitues (usually Splenda). I try not to eat much sugar and there are some good ones out there that taste pretty good, so I figure why not. :laugh: If they tasted like unsweetened bran flakes, though, there's no way in hell I could swallow one. Might as well just eat a paper envelope.
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 04:12 PM
1. Bran is healthy.
2. Bran is good for your system, if you catch my drift.
3. Bran has so much fiber in it that it's like you're eating air, you can eat as much as you want and not gain anything.
4. Bran has all GOOD carbs.
I usually have bran muffins every morning. :laugh:
well...when you put it like that - sure it sounds good :rolleyes: ;)
I have never had a lot of bran - but I'm adverse to it either - like I said - I like me some mushy bran cereal lol...
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 04:24 PM
Here was I thinking that there was an American food product that was not covered in sugar. Seriously, the foods over there are quite astounding. My family has never spent so much time in a supermarket. We took forever digging through the foods in an effort to find products that were somewhat natural and not drenched in sugar or fat. The only things we could find were fruit and bran. It appeared that if anything could potentially be tranformed into something unnatural and sugary, then it was. One of my memories of LA was stopping at a set of lights and needing to vomit because of the smell of fat in the air where a number of fast-food outlets were located. Oh and all American meals should be halved in size. I've never seen so much food. So good boy, get that bran into!
:laugh: wow - interesting to see the perpective on a non-American on our food - the sucky thing too - is that the crappy bad food is CHEAP in comparison to food that is good for you or organic or relatively healthy at all...eating right costs a lot of money here it seems...
SuzeQuze
01-21-2005, 04:49 PM
:laugh: wow - interesting to see the perpective on a non-American on our food - the sucky thing too - is that the crappy bad food is CHEAP in comparison to food that is good for you or organic or relatively healthy at all...eating right costs a lot of money here it seems...
Yes, it does cost more. The free range organic eggs I buy are 3x the cost of regular eggs, maybe more. But I won't eat the regular ones anymore. I try to buy as much organic stuff as possible. Deanna, I also love the mushy raisin bran! Isn't that weird? ;) :laugh:
Lux, you're right about how gross food is here. I don't understand why people buy all that crap. Real food tastes better. I guess the advertising brainwashes people into thinking things are "good". I dunno. :shrug:
What are the food like in supermarkets down under?
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Yes, it does cost more. The free range organic eggs I buy are 3x the cost of regular eggs, maybe more. But I won't eat the regular ones anymore. I try to buy as much organic stuff as possible. Deanna, I also love the mushy raisin bran! Isn't that weird? ;) :laugh:
Lux, you're right about how gross food is here. I don't understand why people buy all that crap. Real food tastes better. I guess the advertising brainwashes people into thinking things are "good". I dunno. :shrug:
What are the food like in supermarkets down under?
:nod: and the bad food is horribly addicting...luckily after I stop eating it I don't crave it anymore...but it's like crack the bad food :nod:
I have wanted to try free range eggs - my ex-bf swore by them and I've still never tried them...
I would also like to start buying non-hormonally injected chicken and beef -but it's SO expensive...even now if I do buy beef (the leanest kind) it's at least twice the price as the nasty fully-fat meat...:mad: Stupid food industry in this country...
SuzeQuze
01-21-2005, 04:59 PM
:nod: and the bad food is horribly addicting...luckily after I stop eating it I don't crave it anymore...but it's like crack the bad food :nod:
I have wanted to try free range eggs - my ex-bf swore by them and I've still never tried them...
I would also like to start buying non-hormonally injected chicken and beef -but it's SO expensive...even now if I do buy beef (the leanest kind) it's at least twice the price as the nasty fully-fat meat...:mad: Stupid food industry in this country...
I know, I buy the "bad" meat too. :distress: It will come down as more people buy it. I've heard you can get it online too, I haven't looked into it yet though, I wonder if that would be cheaper.
You're right, the bad food can be like crack. I don't even go down the cookie aisle or the chip aisle. It was hard to get away from but I am glad I did.
I buy the Pete and Gerry's eggs. I'm not sure there's a huge difference in taste, probably since their diet and lifestyle are completely different. I didn't really notice though. There's another kind that is high in omega 3s cuz they feed the chickens flax seeds but they are super expensive, I think the brand is The Country Hen or something like that. Mmmm...food...
BTFLCHLD
01-21-2005, 05:29 PM
all this talk of cookies may cause the relig-a-tards in the world to claim Sesame Street's "Cookie Monster" is either a pedophile or gay (Last time I look he was made of carpet fabric, Kinda hard to be gay when yer nuthin' but a piece of blue carpet...But I am sure the relig-a-tards will say he is gay since there's a hand up his ass :rolleyes: )
Seriously, As long as a child has a safe home environment and is not neglected I have no problem with Gay/Lesbian couples raising the child...Children want love, Plain and simple as that!
:lol: :thumbsup: :lol:
Brwn_eyes0511
01-21-2005, 05:35 PM
Yeah, the article is unscientific, filled with falsehoods, and slanders every gay and lesbian on the planet. I'd love to see this thread removed. :D
Now now now, there are lots of threads that others on this board would like to see removed too that we feel are full of lies and offensive. But obviously the liberals around here carry more weight than the conservatives do. Bet you wish it was like that in the real world? :lol:
amber
01-21-2005, 06:01 PM
1. Bran is healthy.
2. Bran is good for your system, if you catch my drift.
3. Bran has so much fiber in it that it's like you're eating air, you can eat as much as you want and not gain anything.
4. Bran has all GOOD carbs.
I usually have bran muffins every morning. :laugh:
But doesn't bran have a lot of carbs, even if they are good? It's very carb dense, is it not?
gldstwmn
01-21-2005, 06:01 PM
are full of lies and offensive.
List them.
dissention
01-21-2005, 06:09 PM
But doesn't bran have a lot of carbs, even if they are good? It's very carb dense, is it not?
Good carbs are good for you. :shrug: You shouldn't eliminate carbs from your diet, just as you shouldn't eliminate fat from your diet. You have to eat good carbs and good fat. That's what the South Beach Diet is all about. :nod: And the trick when it comes to carbs is that you can subtract the dietary fiber and sugar alcohol from the total carbs. So, say a bran muffin is 15 grams of carbs and it has 8 grams of dietary fiber. You're only eating 7 grams of carbs in the end.
amber
01-21-2005, 06:10 PM
I know, I buy the "bad" meat too. :distress: It will come down as more people buy it. I've heard you can get it online too, I haven't looked into it yet though, I wonder if that would be cheaper.
...
Last time i bought chicken from whole foods, it was literally only about 40 cents more expensive for the whole breast package...so keep checking...
amber
01-21-2005, 06:14 PM
Good carbs are good for you. :shrug: You shouldn't eliminate carbs from your diet, just as you shouldn't eliminate fat from your diet. You have to eat good carbs and good fat. That's what the South Beach Diet is all about. :nod: And the trick when it comes to carbs is that you can subtract the dietary fiber and sugar alcohol from the total carbs. So, say a bran muffin is 15 grams of carbs and it has 8 grams of dietary fiber. You're only eating 7 grams of carbs in the end.
mmmkay. I didn't say you should eliminate them, I was questioning the wisdom of eating so many. even if they are "good"
Thanks for the "info" though.
oh, and why can you subtract those things again?
dissention
01-21-2005, 06:50 PM
mmmkay. I didn't say you should eliminate them, I was questioning the wisdom of eating so many. even if they are "good"
Thanks for the "info" though.
Bran muffins don't have that many carbs. It's not as if you're eating a loaf of white bread; you're eating whole grains. And how can eating good carbs in moderation be bad for you?
oh, and why can you subtract those things again?
Because you don't digest them.
amber
01-21-2005, 07:46 PM
Bran muffins don't have that many carbs. It's not as if you're eating a loaf of white bread; you're eating whole grains. And how can eating good carbs in moderation be bad for you?
Because you don't digest them.
I didn't say eating good carbs in moderation is bad for you. I thought they were very carb dense, that's all I was trying to find out. You say they're not carb dense. :shrug:
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 07:49 PM
Lux, did you go to a movie theater while you were in the states by any chance? Those large drinks are monsters! I have to have a small drink at the movie theater, and even so, something about fountain drinks really bothers me. :shrug: But, yeah, if you think those McDonald's drinks are big! :laugh: The movie theaters seem to specialize in whatever is the most unhealthy thing.
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 07:50 PM
Lux, did you go to a movie theater while you were in the states by any chance? Those large drinks are monsters! I have to have a small drink at the movie theater, and even so, something about fountain drinks really bothers me. :shrug: But, yeah, if you think those McDonald's drinks are big! :laugh: The movie theaters seem to specialize in whatever is the most unhealthy thing.
:nod: AND charge like three times more for the crap they sell...
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 07:53 PM
:nod: AND charge like three times more for the crap they sell...Yep, twenty dollars gets you some water soda, some nachos with chips buried in salt and "cheese" dip that doesn't seem to have any cheese, and some horrifying candy that's jumbo size. It's such an event to get one of the "combo" things at the movies. It's like that could be your only meal for the whole day. :laugh:
DrummerDeanna
01-21-2005, 08:04 PM
Yep, twenty dollars gets you some water soda, some nachos with chips buried in salt and "cheese" dip that doesn't seem to have any cheese, and some horrifying candy that jumbo size. It's such an event to get one of the "combo" things at the movies. It's like that could be your only meal for the whole day. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: You're so right....and the thought of what you just described made my stomach turn...the smell of a movie theater came back to me and blech -I never guy snacks there because of the price mostly -but also because nothing ever appeals to me there....
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 08:45 PM
:laugh: :laugh: You're so right....and the thought of what you just described made my stomach turn...the smell of a movie theater came back to me and blech -I never guy snacks there because of the price mostly -but also because nothing ever appeals to me there....Yep. Makes you wanna just wait until something comes out on DVD. :nod: :laugh:
dissention
01-21-2005, 08:46 PM
Yep. Makes you wanna just wait until something comes out on DVD. :nod: :laugh:
I looooooooooooove going to the movies. My favorite theaters are the grungy art-house ones. I could live in those. As soon as they get a new flick, I move in. :laugh:
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 08:50 PM
I looooooooooooove going to the movies. My favorite theaters are the grungy art-house ones. I could live in those. As soon as they get a new flick, I move in. :laugh:Oh, well, I guess there's a whole 'nother world out there because I've only been in the huge, flashy, colorful, tacky movie theaters. I guess we don't have the art-house type down here. What a shock. :laugh:
amber
01-21-2005, 08:53 PM
Oh, well, I guess there's a whole 'nother world out there because I've only been in the huge, flashy, colorful, tacky movie theaters. I guess we don't have the art-house type down here. What a shock. :laugh:
they're the best. I usually want to see those movies instead of the regular ones. The one in Chico had a big couch at the front that was awesome...
But - I love candy and popcorn at movies :D yes, they charge too much, so i usually bring my own candy...my friend likes movies specifically for the giant, fake oily butter popcorn, though...I enjoy it too. :shocked: :laugh:
dissention
01-21-2005, 08:54 PM
Oh, well, I guess there's a whole 'nother world out there because I've only been in the huge, flashy, colorful, tacky movie theaters. I guess we don't have the art-house type down here. What a shock. :laugh:
You don't? Damn. Those places are fabulous. Great movies that you can't see anywhere else and the atmosphere is great. Fresh popcorn with real butter, clean bathrooms ( :eek: ), great vintage movie posters; I love them. :nod:
dissention
01-21-2005, 08:56 PM
they're the best. I usually want to see those movies instead of the regular ones. The one in Chico had a big couch at the front that was awesome...
You should check and see if any of the art-houses near you are showing What the Bleep? with Marlee Matlin or The Saddest Music In the World with Isabella Rossellini. I saw those about a month and a half ago and they were fab. If you like good movies, those are a sure bet. :thumbsup:
amber
01-21-2005, 08:56 PM
You don't? Damn. Those places are fabulous. Great movies that you can't see anywhere else and the atmosphere is great. Fresh popcorn with real butter, clean bathrooms ( :eek: ), great vintage movie posters; I love them. :nod:
Don't forget the couches in the front!!! :D :laugh: :p
can you imagine if you could only see big budget mainstream releases?
BTW, since you go to movies a lot, have you seen Hotel Rwanda yet? :wavey:
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 08:58 PM
You don't? Damn. Those places are fabulous. Great movies that you can't see anywhere else and the atmosphere is great. Fresh popcorn with real butter, clean bathrooms ( :eek: ), great vintage movie posters; I love them. :nod:Sounds cool! :thumbsup: I bet I might enjoy some real popcorn instead of the incredibly oily stuff I've seen at the theaters, which totally turns me away from popcorn altogether. (:sorry: Amber)
amber
01-21-2005, 08:59 PM
You should check and see if any of the art-houses near you are showing What the Bleep? with Marlee Matlin or The Saddest Music In the World with Isabella Rossellini. I saw those about a month and a half ago and they were fab. If you like good movies, those are a sure bet. :thumbsup:
oops! I've wanted to see Saddest Music since it came out, but it's on DVD now - at least i'm pretty sure i saw it in the rental place. But my budget is so limited that i really have to pick and choose. I used to watch, like, 5 movies a week. :rolleyes:
Sometimes i'm not in the mood for depressing weird movies - but i'll still see that one, the review i read said the directors style was really interesting. (I forgot in what particular way, but still) :wavey:
I was thinking of getting Garden State for this week's rental...
Edit - what the bleep? Didn't ever hear of that, but i like marlee matlin quite a bit...
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:00 PM
Don't forget the couches in the front!!! :D :laugh: :p
can you imagine if you could only see big budget mainstream releases?
BTW, since you go to movies a lot, have you seen Hotel Rwanda yet? :wavey:
They have couches in the back at the one I go to. :p Hollywood produces such **** that if I were forced to watch their crap on a constant basis, I think my teeth would decay from all the sugar and saccharine.
Yup, I saw it. Cheadle was FANTASTIC and for once I really liked Nick Nolte. :nod:
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:02 PM
oops! I've wanted to see Saddest Music since it came out, but it's on DVD now - at least i'm pretty sure i saw it in the rental place. But my budget is so limited that i really have to pick and choose. I used to watch, like, 5 movies a week. :rolleyes:
Sometimes i'm not in the mood for depressing weird movies - but i'll still see that one, the review i read said the directors style was really interesting. (I forgot in what particular way, but still) :wavey:
I was thinking of getting Garden State for this week's rental...
Well, I know what I'm getting tomorrow. :laugh: It's more of a black comedy than a depressing movie. And it's so out-there and weird that it will hold your interest even if you don't like it. Isabella Rossellini as a legless beer baroness with two fake legs filled with beer? Sign me up!
Garden State is fab... :thumbsup:
amber
01-21-2005, 09:02 PM
They have couches in the back at the one I go to. :p Hollywood produces such **** that if I were forced to watch their crap on a constant basis, I think my teeth would decay from all the sugar and saccharine.
Yup, I saw it. Cheadle was FANTASTIC and for once I really liked Nick Nolte. :nod:
Omigod, you saw it?! SQEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! I was actually thinking of taking a solo trip to the movies for that one...(which i don't mind at all, actually. I hate choosing a movie with someone else.)
I love cheadle. love, love. I like Nolte, too....and i heard the lady who played cheadle's wife was fantastical. I also heard that the suspense is nail biting, and that, suprisingly, they don't show that much violence (considering the subject matter)
anyway...
amber
01-21-2005, 09:05 PM
Well, I know what I'm getting tomorrow. :laugh: It's more of a black comedy than a depressing movie. And it's so out-there and weird that it will hold your interest even if you don't like it. Isabella Rossellini as a legless beer baroness with two fake legs filled with beer? Sign me up!
Garden State is fab... :thumbsup:
right, it is more of a black comedy, but you know i don't like ugly things. :p Anyway, the review made it sound extremely compelling, so it's a must see.
Hey, i almost rented it last week, but decided on Collateral instead: Have you seen "A Slipping Down Life" with Guy Pierce *major crush* lily taylor and sara rue?
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:05 PM
Omigod, you saw it?! SQEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! I was actually thinking of taking a solo trip to the movies for that one...(which i don't mind at all, actually. I hate choosing a movie with someone else.)
I love cheadle. love, love. I like Nolte, too....and i heard the lady who played cheadle's wife was fantastical. I also heard that the suspense is nail biting, and that, suprisingly, they don't show that much violence (considering the subject matter)
anyway...
I've liked Cheadle since he was on Picket Fences, one of my favorite shows. :nod: Nolte always annoyed me, but he was really good in it. There's next to no violence in it, which I found refreshing.
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:08 PM
right, it is more of a black comedy, but you know i don't like ugly things. :p Anyway, the review made it sound extremely compelling, so it's a must see.
Hey, i almost rented it last week, but decided on Collateral instead: Have you seen "A Slipping Down Life" with Guy Pierce *major crush* lily taylor and sara rue?
Oh, it's not ugly at all, it's a beautiful film. The set pieces, the costumes, Isabella, just gorgeous. And the fact that it's black and white makes it even more stunning.
I never saw that other movie, but I read a book by Anne Tyler by the same title. Is it about a woman obsessed with a rock singer?
amber
01-21-2005, 09:14 PM
Oh, it's not ugly at all, it's a beautiful film. The set pieces, the costumes, Isabella, just gorgeous. And the fact that it's black and white makes it even more stunning.
I never saw that other movie, but I read a book by Anne Tyler by the same title. Is it about a woman obsessed with a rock singer?
Yes! I didn't know Anne Tyler wrote that book! ha!
Damn, i was trying to see if i should rent it or not. (slipping down life) I really like guy pierce. But the back implied there was a shooting and stuff, and since i already knew Collateral was good, i decided to save it for another day.
Wow, you've really reassured me about the Isabella movie! great! looking forward to... :thumbsup:
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:27 PM
Yes! I didn't know Anne Tyler wrote that book! ha!
Damn, i was trying to see if i should rent it or not. (slipping down life) I really like guy pierce. But the back implied there was a shooting and stuff, and since i already knew Collateral was good, i decided to save it for another day.
Wow, you've really reassured me about the Isabella movie! great! looking forward to... :thumbsup:
Here's some info on it: http://imdb.com/title/tt0366996/
And some info on that Marlee Matlin movie: http://imdb.com/title/tt0399877/
:wavey:
amber
01-21-2005, 09:29 PM
Here's some info on it: http://imdb.com/title/tt0366996/
And some info on that Marlee Matlin movie: http://imdb.com/title/tt0399877/
:wavey:
Thanks, i never think of doing that. :confused: Now to look up the Guy Pierce movie... :D
ha, the guy on the radio was just all "i'm gonna see sideways tonight, i can't believe i haven't seen that movie yet" :laugh:
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:35 PM
Thanks, i never think of doing that. :confused: Now to look up the Guy Pierce movie... :D
ha, the guy on the radio was just all "i'm gonna see sideways tonight, i can't believe i haven't seen that movie yet" :laugh:
Sideways is fabulous, finally a movie that deserves all the hype. :nod:
I like to cruise the IMDb just to get some ideas for rentals. If I don't know what to get, I just search through it for twenty minutes. :laugh:
amber
01-21-2005, 09:36 PM
Sideways is fabulous, finally a movie that deserves all the hype. :nod:
I like to cruise the IMDb just to get some ideas for rentals. If I don't know what to get, I just search through it for twenty minutes. :laugh:
yeah, it's a good plan, especially for someone who watches as many movies as you...
I think i'm gonna wait for sideways on DVD, but, maybe not, i kinda want to see it before the oscars so i can go..."C'mon!!! :mad: are you kidding me?! Hilary Swank!?"
:laugh: :laugh:
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:38 PM
yeah, it's a good plan, especially for someone who watches as many movies as you...
I think i'm gonna wait for sideways on DVD, but, maybe not, i kinda want to see it before the oscars so i can go..."C'mon!!! :mad: are you kidding me?! Hilary Swank!?"
:laugh: :laugh:
I like Swank, but I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby and I have no desire to, really. :laugh:
Madsen must win or else. Portman? Oscar-worthy in "Closer"? Gimme a f*cking break.
GateandGarden
01-21-2005, 09:42 PM
I love how this thread has drifted oh so far away from the original topic. :thumbsup:
amber
01-21-2005, 09:43 PM
I like Swank, but I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby and I have no desire to, really. :laugh:
Madsen must win or else. Portman? Oscar-worthy in "Closer"? Gimme a f*cking break.
I was gonna say Portman, but i didn't want to, uh...you know.
I don't love swank. don't hate her, but...shoot, i'd rather see Meryl get another one than either of those two. And i don't usually feel that way. Omigod, i was reading an Oscar thing today in the paper, and he brought up Julia for Closer :eek: not that he thought she should get nommed, but that she might.
I will eat the hairs from my brush if that no talent b**** gets nommed! :lol: :lol:
I like movies with girls boxing, but i don't want to see the sad part where Hillary is paralyzed...
I loved Girlfight, though... :p
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:47 PM
I was gonna say Portman, but i didn't want to, uh...you know.
I don't love swank. don't hate her, but...shoot, i'd rather see Meryl get another one than either of those two. And i don't usually feel that way. Omigod, i was reading an Oscar thing today in the paper, and he brought up Julia for Closer :eek: not that he thought she should get nommed, but that she might.
I will eat the hairs from my brush if that no talent b**** gets nommed! :lol: :lol:
I like movies with girls boxing, but i don't want to see the sad part where Hillary is paralyzed...
I loved Girlfight, though... :p
Julia in Closer? Gawd, she's horrid. One of the worst actresses of all time. Truly wretched. She should be burned at the stake for giving us My Best Friend's Wedding and all her other **** films. Meryl I find rather cloying lately, to be honest.
Boxing movies bore me to tears. Unless an ear gets bitten off, count me out.
dissention
01-21-2005, 09:48 PM
I love how this thread has drifted oh so far away from the original topic. :thumbsup:
It's only natural when they're **** topics. :laugh:
amber
01-21-2005, 09:53 PM
Julia in Closer? Gawd, she's horrid. One of the worst actresses of all time. Truly wretched. She should be burned at the stake for giving us My Best Friend's Wedding and all her other **** films. Meryl I find rather cloying lately, to be honest.
Boxing movies bore me to tears. Unless an ear gets bitten off, count me out.
:laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Meryl has been a bit more cloying, but still, to me, it's one if those "more talent in her little finger" things. *plus Cancer* Plus, I haven't seen Manchurian candidate, but if she's evil, it's probably a more compelling performance than her usual ones lately.
I like sports movies with chicks. And some other sports movies. For instance, bad movie i love: Blue Crush (I think that's what it was called. Rosario Dawson was in that one, too.) I actually saw it in the theatre. :laugh:
also - A league of their own, and Major League. Also 8 Men Out.
well, you see my point. :p
I completely agree about Julia. I wish her brother was more famous than she, because i like Eric. But no. We have to have the "pap and drivel" member of the family... :mad: :p The review i read actually said that she ruined Closer. :nod:
sara1998
01-21-2005, 11:37 PM
oops....
another thread derailed..... ;)
ontheEdgeof17
01-22-2005, 11:26 AM
oops....
another thread derailed..... ;)
I love when this happens! :lol:
I'm in VA so I won't be able to hang with you guys much this weekend! Boo Hoo!
SuzeQuze
01-22-2005, 01:17 PM
I love when this happens! :lol:
I'm in VA so I won't be able to hang with you guys much this weekend! Boo Hoo!
I love it too, have a nice weekend, you'll be missed. :wavey:
GateandGarden
01-22-2005, 01:21 PM
I love it too, have a nice weekend, you'll be missed. :wavey:Ditto! Have fun Curtis! :xoxo:
WelshWitchPMD
01-22-2005, 01:35 PM
They say its just always best to satisfy your cravings in small doses. For example, every now and then I'll get a chocolate craving, so what I do is buy those multi-pack hershey mini-bars (with mr goodbar and milk/dark chocolate) and I'll eat 2 to satisfy the cravings. I also buy those 60 calorie fudge pops and every now and then ill fight a craving with 1 of those.
TWO!?? :shocked: I never ate just 2 in my life!
Well, now that we are on a cookie/sweets thread :lol: I figured that I would let you all know I went to bakery this morning. :p
I got cup cakes, a brownie, and a chocolate eclair to name a few. Got to be prepared for the storm. ;)
GateandGarden
01-22-2005, 01:38 PM
TWO!?? :shocked: I never ate just 2 in my life!Same here! Sometimes I wonder how one does that! :shocked:
Well, now that we are on a cookie/sweets thread :lol: I figured that I would let you all know I went to bakery this morning. :p
I got cup cakes, a brownie, and a chocolate eclair to name a few. Got to be prepared for the storm. ;)Yes, one must be prepared. :nod: ;)
ontheEdgeof17
01-22-2005, 03:08 PM
Ditto! Have fun Curtis! :xoxo:
Oh, I am. I'm definately in love with this area. I think it might be my new home come May. :D
SuzeQuze
01-22-2005, 03:10 PM
Oh, I am. I'm definately in love with this area. I think it might be my new home come May. :D
Nice, I love Virginia Beach. Ahh, the memories. Effing blizzard. :mad: I have to go out to the grocery store which is going to be a zoo parade. Even though New Englanders are used to storms they still go out and stock up on food for a century for each storm. It used to drive me crazy when I worked at Stop and Shop.
ontheEdgeof17
01-22-2005, 03:11 PM
Nice, I love Virginia Beach. Ahh, the memories. Effing blizzard. :mad: I have to go out to the grocery store which is going to be a zoo parade. Even though New Englanders are used to storms they still go out and stock up on food for a century for each storm. It used to drive me crazy when I worked at Stop and Shop.
Right now I'm in Blacksburg. It's beautiful. :wavey:
SuzeQuze
01-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Right now I'm in Blacksburg. It's beautiful. :wavey:
I've never been, just to Charlottesville which is also awesome and the beach. A friend of mine married a man from VA and moved down there. She also went to college down there. VA would be a great choice I think. Is it a blue state?
WelshWitchPMD
01-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Nice, I love Virginia Beach. Ahh, the memories. Effing blizzard. :mad: I have to go out to the grocery store which is going to be a zoo parade. Even though New Englanders are used to storms they still go out and stock up on food for a century for each storm. It used to drive me crazy when I worked at Stop and Shop.
That would us right here. My Dad is crazy and I think he bought the whole store out! :laugh: Well, I guess you got to be prepared.
ontheEdgeof17
01-22-2005, 03:17 PM
Is it a blue state?
No, I don't think. Although, at the movie theatre last night, there were gay couples showing affection in public (no major smooch fest...that is disgusting for anyone). It seems to be accepted down here.
...but I just like the area, no matter if it is blue or red.
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