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Janet
01-13-2005, 10:12 PM
Do you think Lindsey ever bought like Behind the Mask or a Stevie solo album?
I was listening to Behind the Mask and I wondered what LINDSEY thought of it, if he went out and bought it and listened to it??
ontheEdgeof17
01-13-2005, 10:22 PM
The band/Stevie prolly gave Lindsey their work for free....an advanced copy or something as a gift.
Maybe? :shrug:
GateandGarden
01-13-2005, 10:56 PM
The band/Stevie prolly gave Lindsey their work for free....an advanced copy or something as a gift.
Maybe? :shrug:That's what I figured. He may have gotten copies before everyone else did.
BTFLCHLD
01-13-2005, 10:57 PM
KNOWING LINDS, HE PROLLY LAYED TRACKS AND REMIXED :shrug:
KNOWING LINDS, HE PROLLY LAYED TRACKS AND REMIXED :shrug:
Not on any of Stevie's solo stuff. He didn't participate in any of her solo work until TISL, correct?
ontheEdgeof17
01-13-2005, 11:20 PM
Not on any of Stevie's solo stuff. He didn't participate in any of her solo work until TISL, correct?
That's right. :wavey:
dissention
01-13-2005, 11:21 PM
Not on any of Stevie's solo stuff. He didn't participate in any of her solo work until TISL, correct?
I think she meant that he went out, bought the albums, and then fixed the crappy mixes at home in his studio. :laugh:
We all know Lindsey is anal enough to do that...
BTFLCHLD
01-13-2005, 11:23 PM
I think she meant that he went out, bought the albums, and then fixed the crappy mixes at home in his studio. :laugh:
We all know Lindsey is anal enough to do that...
wow..you get me :D :xoxo:
dissention
01-13-2005, 11:47 PM
wow..you get me :D :xoxo:
Of course, I'm very smart and very astute. :laugh: :xoxo:
ontheEdgeof17
01-13-2005, 11:52 PM
wow..you get me :D :xoxo:
If it had 're' in it, I would have gotten it............maybe :rolleyes: :lol:
dissention
01-13-2005, 11:53 PM
And by the way, I knew what she meant too... :) :laugh:
:thumbsup:
Check the mail tomorrow for that MENSA application! :woohoo: We'll take them by storm...
dissention
01-13-2005, 11:54 PM
If it had 're' in it, I would have gotten it............maybe :rolleyes: :lol:
It did, Curtis. ;) :laugh:
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 12:05 AM
And by the way, I knew what she meant too... :) :laugh:Same here.
And...just think what he could've done for Street Angel! He could've worked wonders for that album.
BTFLCHLD
01-14-2005, 12:12 AM
btw, cute sig amber :cool:
ontheEdgeof17
01-14-2005, 12:17 AM
It did, Curtis. ;) :laugh:
:rolleyes: :lol:
Damn you.
ok....add "when he got home" at the end, then. hrump.
:)
BTFLCHLD
01-14-2005, 12:17 AM
Thanks! I actually have to go to the grocery store right now, they close at 10. Then, when i get back, i was gonna go to the other grocery store that stays open all night. I'm walking, if you're wondering why i don't go to both at once...
:xoxo: :wavey:
k..be careful! :cool:
and sorry for off-top on the thread...
ontheEdgeof17
01-14-2005, 12:18 AM
Same here.
And...just think what he could've done for Street Angel! He could've worked wonders for that album.
Leave the masterpiece that is Street Angel outta this.
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 12:30 AM
Leave the masterpiece that is Street Angel outta this.Aw, come on. You know Lindsey could've produced it better! I was just listening to "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" today and thinking of how Lindsey could have made that one even better. :nod:
ontheEdgeof17
01-14-2005, 12:38 AM
Aw, come on. You know Lindsey could've produced it better! I was just listening to "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" today and thinking of how Lindsey could have made that one even better. :nod:
......but his magic couldn't have saved Desert Angel.
Kelly
01-14-2005, 01:24 AM
I am sure he listened to BTM before it was even released to the public...and analyzed and picked it apart!!
Here is something I have always wondered...did Lindsey EVER take that BellaDonna album home that Stevie signed for him and left in the studio? I hope he eventually took it home but somehow I think he probably did not, wanting to win that battle of wills and all. (especially once he realized how much it bothered her that he left it there!) It is sort of interesting how certain little stuff like that still seems to bother..or maybe it's hurt...Stevie today.
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 01:56 AM
......but his magic couldn't have saved Desert Angel.Agreed. :nod:
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 01:59 AM
Hey, I didn't even know about that! Did you learn that from an interview or something?
Thanks! :wavey:Yeah, that is an interesting piece of information. And if Stevie's anything like me, she gets all mad and frustrated about that whenever she has free time to think about it and it's like the day it happened all over again. And, if Stevie's like me in that way, we both need to find different ways of dealing with things! :laugh:
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 02:42 AM
:laugh:
aww...well, that is quite a petty slap in the face, though, I think. You'd think they would have talked about it by now, though, right? :laugh:
I hope it doesn't get you all crunched up! I think some things like that you shouldn't forget, but you should try to learn to distance your emotions from them.
duh, right? :laugh: easier said than done!
:xoxo:Sorry, uh, I was gonna respond to what you said and agree and all that, but then I noticed your sig pics again and I was like, Awwwwww! So cute! And I forgot whatever else I was going to say.
Kelly
01-14-2005, 07:34 AM
Stevie tells that story on one of the Behind the Musics, I think. I believe it is Lindsey's.....and boy she looks pissed. She describes getting her copy of BellaDonna before it was released and getting a copy for LB. She autographs it and takes it into their studio. I guess she doesn't have enough guts to give it to him so she leaves it in the studio and then watches it for the rest of the day and LB just ignores it. She says he "never took it home". Now, I figure he listened to it of course but would not give her the satisfaction of taking that particular copy home with him. She seemed genuinely hurt when she was talking about it, what 20 years later? They did have and still do have an interesting relationship.
GypsySorcerer
01-14-2005, 09:01 AM
Same here.
And...just think what he could've done for Street Angel! He could've worked wonders for that album.
Possibly. But I don't think he could have fixed "Rock a Little." What a train wreck. :eek: :lol:
skcin
01-14-2005, 09:56 AM
Stevie tells that story on one of the Behind the Musics, I think. I believe it is Lindsey's.....and boy she looks pissed. She describes getting her copy of BellaDonna before it was released and getting a copy for LB. She autographs it and takes it into their studio. I guess she doesn't have enough guts to give it to him so she leaves it in the studio and then watches it for the rest of the day and LB just ignores it. She says he "never took it home". Now, I figure he listened to it of course but would not give her the satisfaction of taking that particular copy home with him. She seemed genuinely hurt when she was talking about it, what 20 years later? They did have and still do have an interesting relationship.
I'm sure he's listened to it since, but I'm also pretty sure he never took that original autographed album she gave him. ;)
stefan
01-14-2005, 10:18 AM
Didn't even John claim not to have heard any of LB's solo albums?
I mean really- who should believe that? Seems everyone claims to be uninterested by these things. It's an ego thing. That can't really be true. First I suppose you have to have professional interest in what your bandmate is doing and in which way he or she is developing. You have to consider these things once you work together again. Analyzing positive and negative aspects is a professional must imo for improvement in the future. Secondly there are some examples of songs played on FM live shows that came from the solo albums, so you better know these before... And the third thing is, you are simply curious about what the others have been doing. No way LB didn't know the songs from Bella donna and vice versa. I am sure every bandmember knows even the Mick solo albums. Btw you could suppose that some copies from every album anyone made got sent to family members, friends and the band.
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 10:33 AM
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
it's okay. They've been up all day, you just saw them? :)Yeah, but every time I see them it's like the first time. :lol:
GateandGarden
01-14-2005, 10:39 AM
Stevie tells that story on one of the Behind the Musics, I think. I believe it is Lindsey's.....and boy she looks pissed. She describes getting her copy of BellaDonna before it was released and getting a copy for LB. She autographs it and takes it into their studio. I guess she doesn't have enough guts to give it to him so she leaves it in the studio and then watches it for the rest of the day and LB just ignores it. She says he "never took it home". Now, I figure he listened to it of course but would not give her the satisfaction of taking that particular copy home with him. She seemed genuinely hurt when she was talking about it, what 20 years later? They did have and still do have an interesting relationship.That's such a shame! I would've been so hurt! I actually thought they were getting along a little better than that around that time. I suppose it was an off and on kind of thing. When Rolling Stone recently did that issue that reprinted all those older pics of rock stars and the photo in which they're all sprawled out on the bed was included, there was a little story with it that said that Stevie and Lindsey didn't want to be anywhere near each other during the photo shoot and (as y'all know) purposefully cuddled with other people for pictures. But, according to the mag, by the time the shoot was over and everyone was ready to leave, the two of them were making out on the bed. And this was after they'd broken-up, so I thought Wow, they made up quickly. But I suppose they made-up and got pissed at each other again and made-up about eight hundred times. :laugh:
dissention
01-14-2005, 11:45 AM
......but his magic couldn't have saved Desert Angel.
And not all the prayers in the world...could save that. :woohoo:
GardenStateGirlie
01-14-2005, 12:10 PM
That's such a shame! I would've been so hurt! I actually thought they were getting along a little better than that around that time. I suppose it was an off and on kind of thing. When Rolling Stone recently did that issue that reprinted all those older pics of rock stars and the photo in which they're all sprawled out on the bed was included, there was a little story with it that said that Stevie and Lindsey didn't want to be anywhere near each other during the photo shoot and (as y'all know) purposefully cuddled with other people for pictures. But, according to the mag, by the time the shoot was over and everyone was ready to leave, the two of them were making out on the bed. And this was after they'd broken-up, so I thought Wow, they made up quickly. But I suppose they made-up and got pissed at each other again and made-up about eight hundred times. :laugh:
Which is why their relationship was incredibly unstable back in those days. The whole "I love you...I hate you" vibe all at the same time. I think with being around each other 24/7, it was probably difficult for them to not fall into the same old patterns of needing and wanting one another.
Lindsey did appear at one of the BTM shows, no? I think he came out and played Landslide (a while back I think Neil or someone else may have had that up for download). I'm sure after he left the band, there was some curiosity as to what was still going on and he probably did listen to the album--laughed at the fact that it took two guitarists to replace him (hell, that still makes me laugh)--maybe even a little hurt that the band still went on without him.
I do believe he listened to Stevie's albums. However, I don't think he ever discussed them with her nor did he say anything about them. I believe in a TISL interview, Stevie mentions how excited she was to hear Lindsey say how much he loved the album because he'd never really complimented her before (probably because perfectionist Lindsey was too busy criticizing).
ontheEdgeof17
01-14-2005, 12:33 PM
Possibly. But I don't think he could have fixed "Rock a Little." What a train wreck. :eek: :lol:
If RAL is a train wreck, then Go Insane was aboard. They are two peas in a pod.
dissention
01-14-2005, 12:38 PM
Stevie tells that story on one of the Behind the Musics, I think. I believe it is Lindsey's.....and boy she looks pissed. She describes getting her copy of BellaDonna before it was released and getting a copy for LB. She autographs it and takes it into their studio. I guess she doesn't have enough guts to give it to him so she leaves it in the studio and then watches it for the rest of the day and LB just ignores it. She says he "never took it home". Now, I figure he listened to it of course but would not give her the satisfaction of taking that particular copy home with him. She seemed genuinely hurt when she was talking about it, what 20 years later? They did have and still do have an interesting relationship.
Sorry, but am I the only one (next to Lindsey) who would feel incredibly insulted? It would be like me becoming a big movie star and giving my friend an autographed publicity shot as a gift. Wouldn't go down too well. :shrug: It just seems so...impersonal.
David
01-14-2005, 12:41 PM
I do believe he listened to Stevie's albums. However, I don't think he ever discussed them with her nor did he say anything about them. I believe in a TISL interview, Stevie mentions how excited she was to hear Lindsey say how much he loved the album because he'd never really complimented her before (probably because perfectionist Lindsey was too busy criticizing).Around the time of the 1997 reunion, the press asked Lindsey what he thought of the Vito-Burnette incarnation, & he said the music was "generic" but still decent. By the time Dave Mason had joined, Lindsey thought the band had really turned into a novelty act.
If you think about it, there isn't much on "Behind the Mask" that would really have interested Lindsey from the standpoint of production or arrangement or instrumentation -- & those are so important to him, as we all know. There isn't anything on "Mask" that pushes any envelopes, as far as Lindsey was concerned. I bet he saw that album the way many of us do: just a rather bland collection of reactionary trackmaking.
I think Lindsey sees most of Stevie's solo work in the same way. If you're not interested in a particular musical style, you're not interested. Friends hand me CDs all the time that I'm supposed to take home & listen to, & I just don't want to. I might take the CDs & put them in my car for a few days -- sort of pretend to listen to them -- or I might just let them sit on my desk, or give them back almost immediately to the person with a lame excuse. Lindsey was probably curious about "Bella Donna," & he probably listened to it -- or some of it. After a couple of tracks of "Bella Donna," it would have been apparent to him just what was going on musically, & I can't imagine it would have been such a big thrill for him. So as other Stevie solo albums were released over the years, he probably ignored them. As his tastes have deteriorated, maybe he's been listening to more of her work. I mean, "Running Through the Garden" is not all that different in instrumental approach from "No Spoken Word." I like to think that he was more recently familiar with some aspect of "Rock a Little" as an overall groove & perhaps tried to apply that.
GardenStateGirlie
01-14-2005, 12:46 PM
Sorry, but am I the only one (next to Lindsey) who would feel incredibly insulted? It would be like me becoming a big movie star and giving my friend an autographed publicity shot as a gift. Wouldn't go down too well. :shrug: It just seems so...impersonal.
I think she was of the (deluded) mind that he would be proud of her and would celebrate her success. Their relationship had always been froth with competition and when she had a hit solo record and he didn't and you give him an autographed copy? yes, it was more than likely a slap in the face and not the gesture she had wanted it to be.
David
01-14-2005, 12:48 PM
Sorry, but am I the only one (next to Lindsey) who would feel incredibly insulted? It would be like me becoming a big movie star and giving my friend an autographed publicity shot as a gift. Wouldn't go down too well. :shrug: It just seems so...impersonal.
Stevie's story about giving Lindsey a copy contradicts other things she used to say. During that time, interviewers asked her a bunch of times how her bandmates felt about her solo album, & she always said she didn't mention it at all to them & didn't "bring" it into Fleetwood Mac meetings or activities.
On the other hand, don't we have a little part of a 1982 FM rehearsal where they play a little bit of "Edge of Seventeen" -- just screwing around? Of course, that doesn't mean much. It was all over the radio back then.
ontheEdgeof17
01-14-2005, 12:54 PM
On the other hand, don't we have a little part of a 1982 FM rehearsal where they play a little bit of "Edge of Seventeen" -- just screwing around? Of course, that doesn't mean much. It was all over the radio back then.
True. Fleetwood Mac also played around with her songs that eventually made it to Bella Donna (Think About It, for one).....and eventually released some of the tunes that didn't make it (Gypsy). I think Lindsey would have been curious to see how the songs that didn't make Rumours or Tusk sounded on Bella Donna. Also, he had to have had listened to BD demos in order to see how Stevie wanted the songs to be like on down the line during recordings. So, of course Stevie's solo career was talked about in the band...IMO.
dissention
01-14-2005, 12:54 PM
Stevie's story about giving Lindsey a copy contradicts other things she used to say. During that time, interviewers asked her a bunch of times how her bandmates felt about her solo album, & she always said she didn't mention it at all to them & didn't "bring" it into Fleetwood Mac meetings or activities.
On the other hand, don't we have a little part of a 1982 FM rehearsal where they play a little bit of "Edge of Seventeen" -- just screwing around? Of course, that doesn't mean much. It was all over the radio back then.
Stevie rarely tells a story that gells with anything else she's said in the past, so who knows. She still can't get her story straight on exactly when she stopped doing cocaine.
BTFLCHLD
01-14-2005, 01:23 PM
Here's a thought...maybe he never saw it? :o
If Stevie signed with the intention to gift Lindsey, she should have.
IMO If someone entered a room, and layed something around, but never said "here ya go!" I'd leave said object where it lay too.
GypsySorcerer
01-14-2005, 01:49 PM
If RAL is a train wreck, then Go Insane was aboard. They are two peas in a pod.
RAL sounds dated and IMO most of the lyrics on that album were not her best. But what I don't like about it is the vocals. If Stevie is off vocally, it's much, much, harder for me to get into her stuff....because I don't enjoy actually listening to it.
But here we are discussing Stevie in a Lindsey thread...so back to LB. :lol:
GardenStateGirlie
01-14-2005, 02:09 PM
Here's a thought...maybe he never saw it? :o
If Stevie signed with the intention to gift Lindsey, she should have.
IMO If someone entered a room, and layed something around, but never said "here ya go!" I'd leave said object where it lay too.
I believe the way the story goes (I don't have a link to the actual article) was that he did, in fact, see the album and just left it sitting there. He didn't want to take it with him and she was upset about it.
I believe the way the story goes (I don't have a link to the actual article) was that he did, in fact, see the album and just left it sitting there. He didn't want to take it with him and she was upset about it.
Here is the exact quote from Stevie because, afterall, I do love quotes!
Rock Family Tree - 1995
(about giving Lindsey a copy of Bella Donna)"I took Lindsey in a copy of the record right when it was fresh off the press and signed it and said a lot of really wonderful things to him. I set it up on the console and he moved it and put it down on the floor kind of leaning against the step in the studio room. And I watched him, all day long, I watched him.. from three in the afternoon until like three the next morning and he walked right out of the room without the record, and I never forgave him for that."
GardenStateGirlie
01-14-2005, 04:50 PM
Here is the exact quote from Stevie because, afterall, I do love quotes!
Rock Family Tree - 1995
(about giving Lindsey a copy of Bella Donna)"I took Lindsey in a copy of the record right when it was fresh off the press and signed it and said a lot of really wonderful things to him. I set it up on the console and he moved it and put it down on the floor kind of leaning against the step in the studio room. And I watched him, all day long, I watched him.. from three in the afternoon until like three the next morning and he walked right out of the room without the record, and I never forgave him for that."
And I'm glad you do :nod: Another reason I love your website.
golddustwoman77
01-14-2005, 05:39 PM
Stevie tells that story on one of the Behind the Musics, I think. I believe it is Lindsey's.....and boy she looks pissed. She describes getting her copy of BellaDonna before it was released and getting a copy for LB. She autographs it and takes it into their studio. I guess she doesn't have enough guts to give it to him so she leaves it in the studio and then watches it for the rest of the day and LB just ignores it. She says he "never took it home". Now, I figure he listened to it of course but would not give her the satisfaction of taking that particular copy home with him. She seemed genuinely hurt when she was talking about it, what 20 years later? They did have and still do have an interesting relationship.
That was exactly what I was going to bring up----the whole "Stevie autographing the album and leaving it for Lindsey" thing. This is a good point. :thumbsup:
I think that he probably was curious about her solo work and Behind the Mask. He probably couldn't help himself, because he would want to know if the albums had that same magic that he can put into her songs or that he gave to the band. He would be curious to see how the band and/or Stevie was doing without him. I would say that he has listened to them at least once, surely.
GardenStateGirlie
01-14-2005, 08:38 PM
Around the time of the 1997 reunion, the press asked Lindsey what he thought of the Vito-Burnette incarnation, & he said the music was "generic" but still decent. By the time Dave Mason had joined, Lindsey thought the band had really turned into a novelty act.
If you think about it, there isn't much on "Behind the Mask" that would really have interested Lindsey from the standpoint of production or arrangement or instrumentation -- & those are so important to him, as we all know. There isn't anything on "Mask" that pushes any envelopes, as far as Lindsey was concerned. I bet he saw that album the way many of us do: just a rather bland collection of reactionary trackmaking.
I think Lindsey sees most of Stevie's solo work in the same way. If you're not interested in a particular musical style, you're not interested. Friends hand me CDs all the time that I'm supposed to take home & listen to, & I just don't want to. I might take the CDs & put them in my car for a few days -- sort of pretend to listen to them -- or I might just let them sit on my desk, or give them back almost immediately to the person with a lame excuse. Lindsey was probably curious about "Bella Donna," & he probably listened to it -- or some of it. After a couple of tracks of "Bella Donna," it would have been apparent to him just what was going on musically, & I can't imagine it would have been such a big thrill for him. So as other Stevie solo albums were released over the years, he probably ignored them. As his tastes have deteriorated, maybe he's been listening to more of her work. I mean, "Running Through the Garden" is not all that different in instrumental approach from "No Spoken Word." I like to think that he was more recently familiar with some aspect of "Rock a Little" as an overall groove & perhaps tried to apply that.
No, you're absolutely right--there really isn't. That's why I think he honestly enjoyed TISL. It was much different from Stevie's previous solo albums in terms of actual song arrangement; no doubt because of Sheryl Crow and her approach to the production of the album. To me, that was more something he would have been interested in--it sounded like something he might have produced, even (okay, maybe he would have went a different angle). I don't know if listening to Stevie's work means his taste has deteriorated (because you know i'm a fan of her work ;) ) but IMO, TISL was some of her best work and no doubt among other things, that influenced him to contribute to that album.
Kelly
01-14-2005, 10:40 PM
Thanks for the link Ali! I have been waiting for someone to say "ah she did not say that, show me the quote" or something all day long. I am glad I had most of the story right. I KNEW she said she watched it all day long waiting for him to take it.
I agree, it is sort of weird for her to give him the album like that knowing he was not happy about her striking out on her own. I do understand her gesture and think she probably still thinks of LB as the bad guy in that scenario but I can understand why he left it there. It was sort of an "in your face" move... even though I do not think that is what Stevie intended it to be. She was hurt he did not take it, he was hurt she even gave it to him...(or made the album without him.) It is not too difficult to see why they had soooo many problems.
I just re-watched the BTM's too. Stevie retells the story on his but does not seem quite as pissed as Rock Family Trees.
Johnny Stew
01-15-2005, 01:53 AM
I don't know if listening to Stevie's work means his taste has deteriorated (because you know i'm a fan of her work ;) )....
I tend to think Lindsey's outlook has simply changed, rather than his "tastes have deteriorated." I think he still likes exploring new things, but feels less compelled to do that in a reactionary sort of way. I think he really felt he needed to separate himself from Fleetwood Mac in the '80s and '90s, to show that he was more than just their guitarist or more than just Stevie Nicks' ex-boyfriend. I think he felt he had a lot to prove.
I tend to think he's much more comfortable in his skin these days, and, therefore, far less likely to be uptight about how something might be perceived. He still wants to push envelopes, but seems to not sweat it as much.
Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves. Which, obviously, has not always been exactly the kind of music Lindsey would want to listen to, but there seems to be some aspect of the approach that he's found a respect for.
David
01-15-2005, 01:54 PM
I tend to think he's much more comfortable in his skin these days, and, therefore, far less likely to be uptight about how something might be perceived. He still wants to push envelopes, but seems to not sweat it as much.I agree.
Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves. Which, obviously, has not always been exactly the kind of music Lindsey would want to listen to, but there seems to be some aspect of the approach that he's found a respect for.I agree with this, too.
But I think he & Stevie, despite the fundamental decency & maturity both have, are vastly different personalities & temperaments, with vastly different predilections & tastes: in music, especially, but also in how they dress, what they eat, how they decorate their homes, their perspectives on the press, how they see their fans, & on & on.
Infusing so much spoiled-romance blather into the question of who listened to who's music clouds the issue, which
seems to me to be the totally different taste in music they have. There isn't anything about "Bwana" or "That's How We Do It in L.A." that Stevie Nicks would or could enjoy; it's just not her kind of thing. Mainstream is what she always strove for. Musically, her albums are total L.A. session musician affairs (no pun intended): Kunkel lays down a standard 4/4, Glaub lobs in the standard bass line, Wachtel & Davy Johnstone add the standard mainstream mix of acoustic & electric guitars, Bittan does his diatonic piano exercises & Iovine's production pulls no punches -- he & Stevie want the live band sound, & that's what they get; just set those mix inputs to a comfortable level. Part of it's the fact that the guys who did her albums didn't have a lot of time to squander with overdubs & reconceptualizing, but the larger part of it is that this is Stevie's taste in pop-rock music. Instrumentally, "Bella Donna" isn't all that different from Jackson Browne's "For Everyman" or the Eagles' "Take It Easy." That's because the same people play on all these projects.
Remember, things like the layering of the track; the use of conventional instruments in unconventional ways; the use of technological devices to emphasize (or sometimes de-emphasize) emotional content; the attempt to avoid the current radio hit mentality (think Quarterflash or Starship) in terms of track makeup, song length & radio-friendly mix -- these have all been super important to Buckingham for decades.
Her albums must strike him as standard-fare mainstream, & his albums must sound like cacophony to her ears. In recent years, with the patching up of their friendship, they're both undoubtedly more inclined to listen to each other's past work in a more "open" way; but they both still have vastly different taste & style. Nothing on "Trouble in Shangri-La" is created like "Red Rover." That will never happen on any solo albums they do in the future.
David
01-15-2005, 01:59 PM
Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves.I think it's especially true in Christine's case. One thing that has become apparent to me over the years is that Chris has a narrowly defined concept of "good" in pop music, which I've had to extrapolate from her numerous comments about other music & musicians. Chris is perfect at what she does, but clearly has no taste for anything outside that sphere. John seems to be much the same way. Virtually any sort of music -- or any approach or style -- that they themselves haven't played (whether it's blues, R&B, pop-rock) doesn't appeal to them at all. Relatively speaking, Mick & Lindsey have the most varied, adventurous taste in others' music.
ThePenguin
01-15-2005, 02:45 PM
I think it's especially true in Christine's case. One thing that has become apparent to me over the years is that Chris has a narrowly defined concept of "good" in pop music, which I've had to extrapolate from her numerous comments about other music & musicians. Chris is perfect at what she does, but clearly has no taste for anything outside that sphere. John seems to be much the same way. Virtually any sort of music -- or any approach or style -- that they themselves haven't played (whether it's blues, R&B, pop-rock) doesn't appeal to them at all. Relatively speaking, Mick & Lindsey have the most varied, adventurous taste in others' music.
I would agree w/ all this. Her tastes seem to run very MOR, easy-listening type of stuff...Steely Dan, Sting, Peter Gabriel etc. I would've liked to have seen her face the 1st time she heard Murrow or Come etc. (It probably looked much like mine! :laugh: ) In that same vein, I can't imagine John ever liking a song like Come if it wasn't done by LB within a Fleetwood Mac format. It would've been 'puke' if anyone else had done it. ;)
-Lis
Little Nicki
01-19-2005, 02:48 PM
Of course, I'm very smart and very astute. :laugh: :xoxo:
I...like the word astute. It reminds me...of a jolly fat woman eating cheese and drinking whine in a quaint little cafe! :sorry:
Gwillaker
01-30-2005, 01:21 AM
I seem to recall he wasnt too impressed with some of Stevie's solo work back in the "Go Insane" days...
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