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gldstwmn
01-11-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/10/oreilly.clooney/index.html

(CNN) -- Three years after they jousted over a celebrity telethon that raised millions for 9/11 victims, Fox News' Bill O'Reilly and actor George Clooney are at it again, this time over what will happen to funds pledged in a telethon for tsunami victims.

In a letter sent by e-mail Monday, Clooney lashed out at the host of "The O'Reilly Factor," saying comments he made last week on his program will lead to lower contributions in Saturday's celebrity-driven telethon.

The caustic message from Clooney also challenges O'Reilly to serve as a presenter in the event.

"This is your chance to put your considerable money where your considerable mouth is," Clooney writes in the note sarcastically signed "Your fan."

On his show Monday night, O'Reilly responded, "That sounds good to me, but I have to see what the format is."

"Whether I can make a pitch or not depends on how organized things are," he said. "We have to be sure the situation is under control."

O'Reilly also responded on his show when Clooney sent him a letter amid the dispute three years ago.

The new dispute began with O'Reilly's comments during his program last Thursday.

"As Yogi Berra once said, 'It is deja vu all over again,'" he said, according to a transcript on Fox News' Web site. "You may remember that, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attack, there was a celebrity-driven TV telethon that raised millions for the affected families. And now, there will be another telethon raising money for those hurt by the tsunami."

After the telethon for victims of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, O'Reilly complained on his program that not all the money pledged was making its way to victims.

"You may also remember that Clooney strenuously objected to 'The Factor' investigation that uncovered problems in distributing the 9/11 money, even though we proved our case and the Red Cross revamped its entire operation because of it," O'Reilly told viewers Thursday.

He said his program "will be watching to see if the money gets to the tsunami victims. If it does not, there will be trouble. And this time nobody can say they weren't warned."

The Red Cross has credited O'Reilly with helping to craft a revised policy on the distribution of donations after the 9/11 attacks. But Clooney wrote in his note, "it was not the Red Cross but the United Way that sponsored that telethon... an easy mistake to make... if you're 3."

He added, "Contrary to what you claim, no one objected to you investigating where the funds were going, but we strenuously objected to you insinuating that it was a fraud [which is what you did] as we were still waiting for a list of names of the dead."

Clooney called the telethon "an unqualified success," and noted that he is on the United Way's board of directors.

A United Way spokeswoman contacted by CNN Monday did not know offhand about funds from the 9/11 telethon, and said the agency would research that information.

A United Way document from October 2001 says "more than $150 million was pledged as a result of the 'America: A Tribute to Heroes' telethon, which solely benefited The September 11th Fund."

And a press release from January 2002 said administrative costs were raised separately, "allowing 100 percent of donations to support organizations and agencies that provide financial assistance and services."

But Clooney, in his letter to O'Reilly, said people canceled their pledges following remarks by the Fox News host.

Arguing that O'Reilly's latest comments were for "personal gain," the star of "Ocean's Twelve" said, "Because of it, fewer people will donate money to help truly traumatized victims; they'll be afraid that their money will do no good."

O'Reilly wished the event well when he discussed it Thursday.

"We want the telethon to be a big success and we applaud the time and generosity of George Clooney and the other stars," he said. "But with power comes responsibility. And we expect all the telethon people to understand that."

Clooney, in turn, accused O'Reilly of failing to recognize his responsibility, noting "you have become quite powerful."

He added, "I don't make as much money as you."

Then came the challenge:

"I'm booking the talent for the Tsunami event... and you, Mr. O'Reilly, are now officially invited to be a presenter... [at this point, not one of the people I've invited to donate their time has said 'No']... this way, You can personally follow up on our fund raising... this is your chance to put your considerable money where your considerable mouth is... show up... help raise money... and if we're doing something wrong, point it out."

"Either you ante up and help out AND be that watch dog that you feel we clearly need... or you simply stand on the sidelines and cast stones," he wrote.

BTFLCHLD
01-12-2005, 05:07 PM
8/7PM SATURDAY, JANUARY 15th
Scheduled performances by:
Madonna
Sheryl Crow
Diana Ross
Stevie Wonder
Maroon 5
Norah Jones
Sarah McLachlan
Mary J. Blige
Lenny Kravitz
John Mayer
Eric Clapton
Kenny Chesney
Gloria Estefan
Elton John
Nelly

In addition to the musical performances, there are scheduled appearances by Halle Berry, Kevin Spacey, Usher, George Clooney, Uma Thurman, Matt Damon, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Michael Douglas, Bruce Willis, Danny DeVito, Rhea Perlman, Tim Robbins, Eric McCormack, Sean Hayes, Jay Leno, Drew Barrymore and a special message from Former Presidents George Bush & Bill Clinton.

Based on the initial post, and a reference on the news this morning, I checked OREILLY site and the following is posted:

Bill's Upcoming Appearances: Bill will appear alongside other celebrities on NBC's special telethon on Saturday, January 15 at 8pm EST, to support the victims of the tsunamis.

estranged4life
01-12-2005, 05:29 PM
8/7PM SATURDAY, JANUARY 15th
Scheduled performances by:
Madonna
Sheryl Crow
Diana Ross
Stevie Wonder
Maroon 5
Norah Jones
Sarah McLachlan
Mary J. Blige
Lenny Kravitz
John Mayer
Eric Clapton
Kenny Chesney
Gloria Estefan
Elton John
Nelly

In addition to the musical performances, there are scheduled appearances by Halle Berry, Kevin Spacey, Usher, George Clooney, Uma Thurman, Matt Damon, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Michael Douglas, Bruce Willis, Danny DeVito, Rhea Perlman, Tim Robbins, Eric McCormack, Sean Hayes, Jay Leno, Drew Barrymore and a special message from Former Presidents George Bush & Bill Clinton.

Based on the initial post, and a reference on the news this morning, I checked OREILLY site and the following is posted:

Bill's Upcoming Appearances: Bill will appear alongside other celebrities on NBC's special telethon on Saturday, January 15 at 8pm EST, to support the victims of the tsunamis.

for the update of who is appearing, I will not be watching since I dislike a great majority of the "musical entertainers" (I use that term lightly) who are scheduled to appear (Excluding Stevie Wonder, Elton John & Eric Clapton. Clapton has my respect since he publicly allowed his song "Tears in Heaven" to be used in the OKC memorial.)

As for Bill O'Really & George Looney, Big yawn goes to both of 'em, But at least Looney showed he had some 'nads to call O'Really on this one...Won't change my opinion on Looney as an "actor" (Again a term I use lightly) though.

DeeGeMe
01-12-2005, 05:43 PM
Here's what pisses me off about this story. NBC Universal is sponsoring this event and will broadcast it live on all of their cable channels. That includes Bravo, Telemundo among others and at least two direct competitors of Fox News: MSNBC and CNBC. While I applaud George Clooney is calling O'Reilly on his bull**** and forcing him to put up or shut up, it kills me that now NBC Universal has to give this yahoo the time of day. Would Fox News ever have any of the NBC news folks (cable or broadcast) on their network? Doubtful. Then again, multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News and everything Fox, would never have contributed his air waves or air time to help a damn soul (major backer of the Repug party) let alone Tsunami victims in SE Asia.

gldstwmn
01-12-2005, 06:16 PM
Here's what pisses me off about this story. NBC Universal is sponsoring this event and will broadcast it live on all of their cable channels. That includes Bravo, Telemundo among others and at least two direct competitors of Fox News: MSNBC and CNBC. While I applaud George Clooney is calling O'Reilly on his bull**** and forcing him to put up or shut up, it kills me that now NBC Universal has to give this yahoo the time of day. Would Fox News ever have any of the NBC news folks (cable or broadcast) on their network? Doubtful. Then again, multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News and everything Fox, would never have contributed his air waves or air time to help a damn soul (major backer of the Repug party) let alone Tsunami victims in SE Asia.

It will be interesting to see how his appearance is made. All he can do is talk, so I can't imagine him getting a lot of the spotlight since most of the others will be performing.

dissention
01-12-2005, 06:27 PM
It will be interesting to see how his appearance is made. All he can do is talk, so I can't imagine him getting a lot of the spotlight since most of the others will be performing.

As bad as it might sound, I think this back-and-forth between the two has done a lot to tarnish this telethon and I don't believe it will be that big of a success because of it. Clooney's in the right on this one (per usual :laugh: ) and O'Reilly is just making an even bigger buffoon out of himself, but it's compromising the integrity of the whole affair and I find it appalling.

SuzeQuze
01-12-2005, 06:41 PM
As bad as it might sound, I think this back-and-forth between the two has done a lot to tarnish this telethon and I don't believe it will be that big of a success because of it. Clooney's in the right on this one (per usual :laugh: ) and O'Reilly is just making an even bigger buffoon out of himself, but it's compromising the integrity of the whole affair and I find it appalling.

Stephanie Miller was talking about this this morning. How can O'Reilly fit in? It will be interesting to see if he can without being harmed by all those "looney liberals". Incidentally, SM said she used to sort of "stalk" Clooney because he lived near her and played basketball with his friends sometimes, sans shirt. :shocked: Dayum!

gldstwmn
01-12-2005, 08:25 PM
Stephanie Miller was talking about this this morning. How can O'Reilly fit in? It will be interesting to see if he can without being harmed by all those "looney liberals". Incidentally, SM said she used to sort of "stalk" Clooney because he lived near her and played basketball with his friends sometimes, sans shirt. :shocked: Dayum!

I would too! :]

O'Really will be in his own seperate studio in NYC so he won't have to mix with the liberals.

DeeGeMe
01-12-2005, 08:59 PM
This gets better-at a TV industry newsgroup I frequent, I just read that O'Reilly went off tonight on MSNBC in general and Keith Olbermann specifically. KO takes swipes at O'Reilly and Faux all the time (read his last blog about both O'Reilly & Armstrong Williams at www.bloggermann.com). Anyway, according to the poster there, O'Reilly said that everyone at MSNBC were liars except Lester Holt. How much do you wanna bet that O'Reilly is looking for an exit door to get out of this thing????? SOB.

gldstwmn
01-12-2005, 10:15 PM
This gets better-at a TV industry newsgroup I frequent, I just read that O'Reilly went off tonight on MSNBC in general and Keith Olbermann specifically. KO takes swipes at O'Reilly and Faux all the time (read his last blog about both O'Reilly & Armstrong Williams at www.bloggermann.com). Anyway, according to the poster there, O'Reilly said that everyone at MSNBC were liars except Lester Holt. How much do you wanna bet that O'Reilly is looking for an exit door to get out of this thing????? SOB.

I wondered if he might try to pull something like that.

DeeGeMe
01-12-2005, 11:30 PM
For all his bluster, he backs down when challenged. But he's got to figure out some way to save face and the best way to do it is to go off on NBC Universal and get himself uninvited from this event. Then he can go back on his show, claim he's a victim (his favorite thing to do) and attack NBC Universal and Hollywood (another favorite target) once more. And can you believe that Faux is the top-rated News Network and this jackass is their highest rated show? WTF?

gldstwmn
01-13-2005, 12:08 AM
For all his bluster, he backs down when challenged. But he's got to figure out some way to save face and the best way to do it is to go off on NBC Universal and get himself uninvited from this event. Then he can go back on his show, claim he's a victim (his favorite thing to do) and attack NBC Universal and Hollywood (another favorite target) once more. And can you believe that Faux is the top-rated News Network and this jackass is their highest rated show? WTF?

I can't figure it out. :shrug:

wondergirl9847
01-15-2005, 05:16 PM
All-star benefit show airing commercial-free Jan. 15 on NBC, USA Network, Telemundo, Sci-Fi Channel, Trio, Bravo, Pax, and MSNBC.

And for those of you following the George Clooney/Bill O'Reilly feud, Clooney invited O'Reilly to be on this show to actually do something to help the victims instead of talking about it, and O'Reilly supposedly accepted. We'll see if he has the guts to show up.

Here's the latest press release:

Brad Pitt, Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu, Robert DeNiro, Josh Groban, Jay Leno, Natalie Portman, Nicolette Sheridan, Andy Garcia, Hugh Grant and Naomi Watts have joined the lineup for the NBC Universal benefit special "Tsunami Aid: A Concert of Hope." The broadcast will air live at 8:00pm on Saturday, January 15th on NBC, the NBC Universal cable platforms, Telemundo and PAX.

SBC Communications will underwrite the two-hour, commercial-free special.

Performances will be available for download on Sony Connect. In association with this event, Sony's Connect music store will offer exclusive downloads of live performances from the concert. All proceeds from download sales will be donated to the American Red Cross International Response Fund, and Sony Corporation of America will match the first $100,000 raised through domestic download sales. Downloads will be available at www.connect.com.

Capital One is providing call center support to the American Red Cross to help collect donations during Saturday night's broadcast

The special will also be simulcast on XM and Sirius satellite radio.

Previously announced scheduled talent includes: Meg Ryan, Clint Eastwood, Renee Zellweger, Ray Romano, Ben Affleck, Morgan Freeman and Robert Downey, Jr., Elton John, Annie Lennox, Nelly, Madonna, Sheryl Crow, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder, Maroon 5, Norah Jones, Sarah McLachlan, Mary J. Blige, Lenny Kravitz, John Mayer, Kenny Chesney, India.Arie, Tom Jones, Eric Clapton, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd), Brian Wilson, Gloria Estefan, Halle Berry, Kevin Spacey, Usher, George Clooney, Uma Thurman, Matt Damon, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Michael Douglas, Bruce Willis, Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman, Tim Robbins and Eric McCormack.

estranged4life
01-15-2005, 05:37 PM
Eric Clapton, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd), Brian Wilson

just to see these 3 musicians play I would watch it, But knowing how previous shows like this have gone down I won't...

There's only been 2 shows for charity I ever bothered to watch:

Live Aid

The Black Crowes in OKC May 1995 (They were already scheduled in late April 1995, But moved the show back from the original date due to the Murrah disaster...Then they decided to make it a charity show, They donated every penny made to the OKC Murrah fund and even more believable they took money from their own pockets to make this show available nationally via radio and talked their label into matching the funds. They even talked Eric Clapton into personally allowing "Tears In Heaven" to be released regionally as a CD single to raise funds, Which he gave his 100% blessing to.)

DeeGeMe
01-15-2005, 06:36 PM
You can always tape it and fast forward through the acts you don't like. Just a thought.

estranged4life
01-15-2005, 06:46 PM
You can always tape it and fast forward through the acts you don't like. Just a thought.

I never tape something like a concert just to fast forward to a few acts I like...Just habit I have always had.

Besides, I just received all the 2004 California SYW tour DVD's (Irvine, Chula Vista, Fresno, Concord, Marysville & San Jose), So I know what I will be watching tonight.