What You Have Not Heard

[jbrownsjr]

I'm just curious, what albums have you not heard. (bootlegs are another story, but you can list if you want)

I have heard just about everything from FM SN LB CM

I have not heard:

John McVie's Gotta Band w/ Lola Thomasalso have not heard Something Big

What's missing in ur collection? :woohoo:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I don't own anyone's solo work outside of the Rumours era (ie Rick, Billy, Peter...etc)....except for a few songs here and there.

As for FM, I own all the released stuff....even from way back when. I'm still working on my bootleg collection, though.




(BTW....Gotta Band is a great record. I love Lola's voice. :thumbsup: )

[sunmaiden]

I own no Christine solos. I only recently expanded my FM collection, and now I have almost every album. Except FMLive, and the green album. But I don't think I need the green album because I have all the material. I only own SN Enchanted and Bella Donna. I think I am missing one or two LB solos! I can't burn them because I don't have any FM fan-friends!

[macfan 57]

I have everything of Fleetwood Mac from 1967-2003 if you include the albums in the Blue Horizon box set. I don't have the Live In Boston CD/DVD, if that's considered an album. I don't have all of the Peter Green era compilation/reissues either. As for solo albums, it's a lot easier for me to list what I do have than what I don't have. I have everything of Christine's including her solo albums & Chicken Shack. I have 2 Stevie solo albums, 2 Lindsey solo albums, 2 Mick solo albums, 3 Bob Welch solo albums & 1 Billy Burnette solo album.

[WildInTheWind]

I don't have nay early FM stuff, except for what's on the Chain Box set. I don't have Behind the Mask, and that other one that was released with that other chick singing. :rolleyes: See how much I can about THAT one? I don't have anyones solo stuff except all of Stevie's. I think I have only heard one Lindsey solo song, and it's holiday road. Can you tell where my interest lies?
I'm just a Stevie girl really :nod:
~*~Becky~*~

[WelshWitchPMD]

I don't have any pre Buckingham Nicks era Mac or Time. I am a fan of both Lindsey and Stevie most of all but I do like Christine.

[markolas]

I don't have Mirage, Behind the Mask, or Time. I'm curious about the first two, but Time I really have no interest in.

Out of the Cradle is the only LB album I own, although I reeeally hope to get the other two sometime in the near future. And I hope he puts out a new one, pronto. I don't own Street Angel or Christine's 1984 album.

Then Play On and Bare Trees are the only pre-BN Mac albums I own.

Don't own, nor do I have any interest in owning, any of Mick's or John's solo work, or Bob Welch's (blech).

[ThePenguin]

I don't have a few of Stevie's solo works.....

Otherwise gosh, I think have just about everything else.....all the other solo stuff from all the other members, pre-FM work etc. :thumbsup:

Well actually I don't have 'Something Big' yet. But I may get that eventually.

-Lis

[amber]

I don't have Mirage, Behind the Mask, or Time. I'm curious about the first two, but Time I really have no interest in.

Out of the Cradle is the only LB album I own, although I reeeally hope to get the other two sometime in the near future. And I hope he puts out a new one, pronto. I don't own Street Angel or Christine's 1984 album.

Then Play On and Bare Trees are the only pre-BN Mac albums I own.

Don't own, nor do I have any interest in owning, any of Mick's or John's solo work, or Bob Welch's (blech).
This is kinda like mine. Well, I got Mirage, but I don't like much of it. And if you made the list "what haven't you seen?" ? I could be here all day... :( I have one pre BN album, though, it's pretty ok. But i have hardly any boots or live recordings or whatever. :eek:

[Serrart]

I don't own Christine Perfect, Christine McVie, Go Insane, and the solo works by Mick, John and the other members pre and post Rumours lineup.

Romy

[markolas]

This is kinda like mine. Well, I got Mirage, but I don't like much of it. And if you made the list "what haven't you seen?" ? I could be here all day... :( I have one pre BN album, though, it's pretty ok. But i have hardly any boots or live recordings or whatever. :eek:

I've been holding off on getting Mirage, TITN, and BTM on CD, hoping they'll be reissued sometime soon. People here keep saying the sound quality of the Mirage CD is awful. I used to have TITN on tape, so I've at least heard it.

Which pre BN album do you have? I kind of like the Peter Green blues era, but I can't stomach Bob Welch...why didn't they just hire Terry Jacks to join the band? Anyway...

[gldstwmn]

There is actually a lot that I don't own. The original edition of Rumours or the Whitle Album :shocked:. I did own the originals on vinyl at one time. I have the reissues though. None of Chris's solo, none of the pre B/N stuff, none of Mick's solo.

[amber]

I've been holding off on getting Mirage, TITN, and BTM on CD, hoping they'll be reissued sometime soon. People here keep saying the sound quality of the Mirage CD is awful. I used to have TITN on tape, so I've at least heard it.

Which pre BN album do you have? I kind of like the Peter Green blues era, but I can't stomach Bob Welch...why didn't they just hire Terry Jacks to join the band? Anyway...
oh, I have..."then play on" it's pretty ok, if you like that sort of thing. I can't believe you don't have Tango, though! I would send it to you if you want... :shrug:
Mirage just sounds overproduced and too light and icky poppy for me (with the notable exceptions being stevie's songs) It sounds...metallic... :distress: It's really weird...

[Hawkeye]

I need Penguin and Kiln House to complete my Pre-BN collection. I own and love Time (I can't stand those who make fun of it before listening to it). I own all Rumours people solo albums, and would love to have Bob Welch's stuff, but it's just not available.

[HomerMcvie]

I have everything Bob Welch forward, save for any Stevie -post- OSOTM.
Bella Donna is a masterpiece.....they all went steadily downhill for me after that.
I gave up after OSOTM. :sorry:

[blinker12]

I don't have any Mac albums before Kiln House (in other words, before when Christine started appearing on them), but I have everything after except "Time."
I have none of Mick's solo albums, nor any by pre- or post-Rumours members, but I have everything by Stevie, Christine, John and Lindsey. I also have two Chicken Shack LPs that Christine's on (but don't like them).
I think that about sums it up!

[SteveMacD]

The only Fleetwood Mac album I don't own is the Jeremy Spencer solo album that was really a Mac album, which is a bugger to find and VERY expensive if you can find it.

In terms of solo stuff, I'm missing the pre-Mac Bob Welch stuff as well as "Mac Years and Beyond," Peter Green's "Beast Of Burden" single, the single Billy recorded as Billy Beau when he was like 13, some of the John Mayall stuff (John McVie and Rick Vito), a few Savoy Brown albums (Dave Walker), Bob Weston's first two solo albums, and a few Rick Vito albums.

Also, I don't have a lot in the way of boots after 1975, and there are a few singles I don't have. Movie soundtracks are also limited.

[skcin]

I have nothing pre BN era. I only have OOTC as far as LB's solo work, I don't have any Christine solo.

I have all officially released Mac & Stevie on CD except Time, almost all on LP (incl. BN) & a few on 8 track.

[GateandGarden]

I've only been a fan for a little over a year, so I have lots of stuff to get still.

I don't have any Lindsey solo or Christine's 1984 album. I only have one Bob Welch solo album and may be interested in more. (Not too interested in any other solo works by the other members at the moment).

And I still have to get

Future Games
Kiln House
Behind the Mask
Penguin
Then Play On (that one's coming in the mail, though :] )
Landslide (single)
English Rose
Live at the BBC

[wondergirl9847]

I've not heard anything much before Then Play On. I've heard clips of the Time album, but I don't own it. I don't own Street Angel either, but I've heard clips of most of the songs. I have Christine's 1984 LP, and have listened to it once and I don't own In the Meantime, but I've heard clips. I don't have any Mick (or John's) solo albums.

I'm the clip queen. LOL

[markolas]

I think I'll end up getting Street Angel, either for completeness' sake, or just to see if it's really as bad as everyone says it is.

[Gailh]

I've got all the official FM albums (and a few unofficial) except Live in Boston - oooh no! I don't own Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac or Then Play On although I did once have them on vinyl.

In terms of solo stuff I've got all Chris', all Stevie's and all Lindsey's

I don't own John or Mick's solo stuff or anything by Bob, Billy, Rick, Peter, Jeremy or Danny although I did once own a Peter Green solo album on green vinyl (yuk)

I used to have Chicken Shack's OK Ken on vinyl but after a while Stan Web's impersonations got right up my nose!

I sold nearly all of my vinyl when I bought my first CD player, including one I got free with frozen peas! (not FM)

I keep my FM CDs together in order of release (newest at the top), then solo albums (Christine first, then Stevie, then Lindsey) no doubt Christine would be very honoured by this! :laugh:

Gail

PS I think I need to get out more!

[jbrownsjr]

I think I'll end up getting Street Angel, either for completeness' sake, or just to see if it's really as bad as everyone says it is.


It's no Bella Donna that's for sure.

[Bryan]

It's no Bella Donna that's for sure.

:rolleyes:
Nor are The Wild Heart,Rock A Little,OSOTM, or TISL,that's for sure.
I hate it when people expect an artist to continually better their 'best' work..*especially* when an artist's debut is considered their best.

But,whatever. It's all a matter of taste. :)
I'm just SICK of the constant Street Angel bashing.

-Bryan

[HomerMcvie]

:rolleyes:
But,whatever. It's all a matter of taste. :)
-Bryan
But the taste got considerably, and progressively, more bland. And I think the majority would agree with that assessment(maybe not).
Pass the ketchup.

[Bryan]

But the taste got considerably, and progressively, more bland. And I think the majority would agree with that assessment(maybe not).

Hey,you're right! The majority is what counts! After all..the majority also wanted Bush to stay in the White House. :thumbsup: :lol:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I'm just SICK of the constant Street Angel bashing.

-Bryan


Just for the record, it's my favorite Stevie album. :thumbsup:

[Bryan]

Just for the record, it's my favorite Stevie album. :thumbsup:


:D :thumbsup: :)

Finally! Another Street Angel fan!
BUT..i know you hate Desert Angel..so :mad: :mad: :mad:
:laugh:





-Bryan

[mondaymornin1]

I have none of the pre-BN albums. I have all of the all of the albums on cd after Lindsey and Stevie joined, and I even have Time, though I don't think I've listened to it all the way through yet. I have all of Lindsey's and Chris's solo stuff. I still need to get Bella Donna on cd. I'm archaic...I got it originally on cassette. It's high time to update, huh? It's been a loooong time since I've listened to it.

I actually just got Law and Order on cd, and my husband bought me my second copies of TITN, FM Live, Rock a Little, and The Dance for Christmas also. I must've been REALLY rough on my first copies...they're so scratched up!

People are right about Mirage on cd. It sounds crappy. I'm waiting on the remaster!!

[ontheEdgeof17]

:D :thumbsup: :)

Finally! Another Street Angel fan!
BUT..i know you hate Desert Angel..so :mad: :mad: :mad:
:laugh:


1 outta 2 ain't so bad. :nod: I think liking a whole album compared to one song you like should give me some sorta bonus points. :lol:

[Bryan]

1 outta 2 ain't so bad. :nod: I think liking a whole album compared to one song you like should give me some sorta bonus points. :lol:

:lol: You get major bonus points for having Street Angel as your favourite Stevie album...I now crown you BEST LEDGIE EVER :) :thumbsup: :wavey:



-Bryan

[ontheEdgeof17]

...I now crown you BEST LEDGIE EVER :) :thumbsup: :wavey:



Is it sad to say that this is the best moment of my life? :lol: :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Hey,you're right! The majority is what counts! After all..the majority also wanted Bush to stay in the White House. :thumbsup: :lol:

Preach On, Brother Bryan! :nod: :nod: :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

Preach On, Brother Bryan! :nod: :nod: :nod:
Hmmmm....interesting, Le Stew.....smells like bitter.... :rolleyes:

[Vianna]

White Album
Rumours
Tusk
Mirage
Tango in the Night
Behind the Mask
Time
Boxed Set 1992 or so
Greatest Hits 1988
The Dance
Say You Will
Tusk, Rumours, White Album Reissues 2004
The 2003 Greatest hits-Best of FM I think it's called
About 10 bootleg shows-mostly The Dance-videos
Tusk Documentary
Tusk rehearsals video
Making of Gypsy video
Numerous bootleg outtakes, demos, rarities, etc, but there are apparently lots of these I still don't have
GOS boot
Bella Donna
The Wild Heart
Rock a Little
The Other Side of the Mirror
Street Angel-hey I like it
Timespace
Trouble in Shangri-La
Law and Order
Go Insane
OOTC
Christine McVie 1984 album
The Legendary Christine Perfect album
In The Meantime
Bonus CD we got when we went to the Dance show

Future Games
Bare Trees

<b>I do not have and want:

Chicken Shack album(s) Chris is on
Gotta Band
Shake The Cage
Visitor

All the Peter Green era albums
Mystery to Me</b>

Most of my stuff is on tape or cd. I have vinyls of Rumours and The Wild Heart.

[GateandGarden]

<b>I do not have and want:
Mystery to Me</b>
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh! You have to get
Mystery to Me! It RULES! So, where are y'all getting the Christine Perfect CD? E-bay? I just downloaded some of the songs online, just as I did with the Buckingham Nicks album. Y'all actually own those? That is very cool. :nod:

[macfan 57]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh! You have to get
Mystery to Me! It RULES! So, where are y'all getting the Christine Perfect CD?:nod:

I got all of my Christine Perfect albums on eBay, 2 on vinyl & the import CD. They aren't cheap, especially the import CD. They can go for close to $100. The U.K. album on vinyl is also pretty expensive. But, the U.S. reissue on vinyl(The Legendary Christine Perfect album)is more reasonably priced.

[GateandGarden]

I got all of my Christine Perfect albums on eBay, 2 on vinyl & the import CD. They aren't cheap, especially the import CD. They can go for close to $100. The U.K. album on vinyl is also pretty expensive. But, the U.S. reissue on vinyl(The Legendary Christine Perfect album)is more reasonably priced.Thanks for the info.

Isn't The Legendary Christine Perfect album supposed to be reissued in the U.S. again? Or was that me dreaming?

[Johnny Stew]

Hmmmm....interesting, Le Stew.....smells like bitter.... :rolleyes:

Not a bitter bone in my body, Homie. Life's too short. And if I was going to be bitter about something, you can be sure it would be about something far more important than what other people think about 'Street Angel' or "When I See You Again." :nod:

If I enjoy something, that's all the satisfaction and validation I need.
As I've said before, I honestly don't care if someone else loves a song/album or hates it... all that matters to me is whether I love it, because I'm the only person who needs to be pleased when I listen to it.

I might scratch my head in bewilderment that someone else can't see the beauty in it that I see, but their opinion of it doesn't affect mine in the slightest. :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

Not a bitter bone in my body, Homie. Life's too short. And if I was going to be bitter about something, you can be sure it would be about something far more important than what other people think about 'Street Angel' or "When I See You Again." :nod:

If I enjoy something, that's all the satisfaction and validation I need.
As I've said before, I honestly don't care if someone else loves a song/album or hates it... all that matters to me is whether I love it, because I'm the only person who needs to be pleased when I listen to it.

I might scratch my head in bewilderment that someone else can't see the beauty in it that I see, but their opinion of it doesn't affect mine in the slightest. :shrug:
I was referring more to the political than the musical. I've never heard Street Angel. She lost me on solo albums after OSOTM. I tolerated Rock a Little. OSOTM pushed my ass over the cliff. Bella Donna is greatness(I insert that, #1 because I believe it; but also so you don't label me a basher). :xoxo:

[ontheEdgeof17]

^I've promised myself not to buy any new music until at least May...:nod:


Why???????????????? I. Would. Die.

[amber]

Why???????????????? I. Would. Die.
I only bought 3 CD's last year... :)

[Johnny Stew]

I was referring more to the political than the musical.

Ahh... I get where you're coming from then.
Yeah, I was bitter for about two days after the election, but then that was it. Bush and his ilk are pond-scum and don't deserve to have that level of control over my outlook. Political regimes come and go... the political climate can shift on a dime... it's not worth it to stay bitter, we just have to keep working to make things better. :D


I've never heard Street Angel. She lost me on solo albums after OSOTM. I tolerated Rock a Little. OSOTM pushed my ass over the cliff. Bella Donna is greatness(I insert that, #1 because I believe it; but also so you don't label me a basher). :xoxo:

The production on 'Street Angel' is a little muddled, due to the troubles behind the scenes... but I was thrilled that Stevie was back to a more straightforward sound.
For my ears, 'Wild Heart' and 'Rock A Little' were a great mix of traditional, REAL instruments with the cool new gadgets of the digital age (synths, drum machines)... but 'Other Side Of The Mirror' took the latter a little too far, at the expense of the former.

'Street Angel' was a return to guitars, drums and pianos, and I loved that aspect. Again, it was just a little too muddled/murky at times.

If you ever have a chance to get a copy of it, you really should. You might actually find an appreciation for it. :)

[dissention]

I only bought 3 CD's last year... :)

Which ones? Curse and...? Throw me a bone, I'm bored to death and my car won't start. :laugh:

[amber]

Which ones? Curse and...? Throw me a bone, I'm bored to death and my car won't start. :laugh:
I bought curse, just bought Gwen, and also OSOTM. I "got" some other music, though.

[ryan8472]

I haven't heard -

- TOSOTM
- Law And Order
- Go Insane
- Most of Street Angel
- All of the FM albums before Mystery To Me (excluding Kiln House...heard that one)

By the way, it just hit me that Say You Will is almost two years old already! Time's fun when yer' having flies...er....something like that.

[dissention]

The production on 'Street Angel' is a little muddled

Understatement of the century. Street Angel is as muddled as Blondie's "Under the Gun," and that's saying a heckuva lot. :nod:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I only bought 3 CD's last year... :)


I buy 3-5 a month, but I'm a spoiled rich kid. :shocked:

[dissention]

I bought curse, just bought Gwen, and also OSOTM. I "got" some other music, though.

Ah, yes. I have a soft spot for OSOTM, though, so you won't ever hear me bashing it. Even though I'd love to, I can't. :laugh:

[dissention]

I buy 3-5 a month, but I'm a spoiled rich kid. :shocked:

I know no budget when I shop for CDs. :eek: If I see something I want, I snatch it up. I just spent $55 on an album from Alex Kapranos pre-Franz Ferdinand and went on a spree last week at a used music store. I'm a whore and am the same way with DVDs. :rolleyes:

[ontheEdgeof17]

The production on 'Street Angel' is a little muddled, due to the troubles behind the scenes...


That's the worst excuse I have ever heard. When wasn't there "trouble behind the scenes?" Klonopin or not.

[ryan8472]

I bought curse, just bought Gwen, and also OSOTM. I "got" some other music, though.

I usually buy a lot of music. This past year I bought:

- Mystery To Me
- Bella Donna
- The Wild Heart
- Trouble In Shangri-La
- Live In Boston
- War (U2)
- October (U2)
- Boy (U2)
- 77' (Talking Heads)
- More Songs About Buildings And Food (TH)
- Fear Of Music (TH)
- Remain In Light (TH)
- Speaking In Tounges (TH)
- Stop Making Sense (TH)
- Parallel Lines (Blondie)
- Live (Blondie)

And of course, FRANZ FERDINAND!!!

Yes, I was broke for a while, and yes, thank God for Christmas money :laugh:

[amber]

I buy 3-5 a month, but I'm a spoiled rich kid. :shocked:
I didn't know you were a spoiled rich kid!!! :mad: :lol: :lol:

Ah, yes. I have a soft spot for OSOTM, though, so you won't ever hear me bashing it. Even though I'd love to, I can't.

will wonders never cease! I'm suprised, actually. But i also got Bella Donna (meh.) RAL (yes!!!!!) and Mirage (bleh)
The other night i was amusing myself greatly by singing "Playing With the Queen of Hearts" and "Angel of the Morning" by Juice Newton... :rolleyes: :lol:
I probably bought, like, 100 books, though.... :)

[dissention]

:lol: Believe me, it will be hard...My thinking is that I'm going to have all of those nifty mp3 downloads from David's site to keep me company. :nod: Plus, I just bought Second Chapter by Danny Kirwan, both Paris albums, and Mystery To Me and Future Games on CD 'cause I had them on LP only before. So, I think I'll save up some $$$ by limiting my music spending for, oh, 3 months. Saying that and doing it are 2 different things, though...:eek:

I should put myself on a budget, too, I've been meaning to for years. But I see it as this is money, it's meant to be spent and I'm not taking it with me. :laugh: I think it has to do with being so frugal for years and years during college that now when I get money in my pocket, I want to spend it instantly. When I first got the job I have now, I went out and maxed out my $5,000 credit limit on a card in only three hours. Boy, did I kick myself as I opened each thing I bought. :laugh:

[amber]

I know no budget when I shop for CDs. :eek: If I see something I want, I snatch it up. I just spent $55 on an album from Alex Kapranos pre-Franz Ferdinand and went on a spree last week at a used music store. I'm a whore and am the same way with DVDs. :rolleyes:
you sure are. I do that in the bookstore, well, only occasionally, cause i'm broke, but when i do, it's in the bookstore...I've also learned to limit my trips to the tibetan jewelry store.... :eek: And may i add that $350 bucks for one FM ticket seriously cut into my budget last year??? :eek: :blob2: so very, very worth it...

[dissention]

you sure are. I do that in the bookstore, well, only occasionally, cause i'm broke, but when i do, it's in the bookstore...I've also learned to limit my trips to the tibetan jewelry store.... :eek:

You're like that with books, too?! :lol: Get me in a bookstore and I'll come out with fifteen things I know I'll never even read. Love art and film books, I must have thousands. I had to stop going to Barnes and Noble, though, because they're are ridiculous with their prices. DVDs and CDs are full retail price, no discount for the most part. And you can get better discounts on books at Waldenbooks or little indie bookstores.

[dissention]

And may i add that $350 bucks for one FM ticket seriously cut into my budget last year??? :eek: :blob2: so very, very worth it...

:eek:

Never would I pay that for a concert, not even if it was their last tour. :lol: I've seen Tom Petty many times and never paid more than $50, and that includes being up near the stage. Saw Sheryl Crow for $35. Saw Blondie many, many times and never paid more than $35, even saw them at free concerts. Melissa Etheridge was $30. Aimee Mann was $15 when I saw her!

[amber]

You're like that with books, too?! :lol: Get me in a bookstore and I'll come out with fifteen things I know I'll never even read. Love art and film books, I must have thousands. I had to stop going to Barnes and Noble, though, because they're are ridiculous with their prices. DVDs and CDs are full retail price, no discount for the most part. And you can get better discounts on books at Waldenbooks or little indie bookstores.
yeah, those art and picture books are expens, i don't really buy those, cause i can't read them. :D I usually hit the used bookstore right across the street from B&N, to check first. Plus, i can trade my books there if they're in good shape. that's weird you buy books you'll never read. I always get ones i read. :shrug: But i buy them because i have to, cause i'll go nutter butter without something to read. I usually just buy regular novels, though...

[dissention]

yeah, those art and picture books are expens, i don't really buy those, cause i can't read them. :D I usually hit the used bookstore right across the street from B&N, to check first. Plus, i can trade my books there if they're in good shape. that's weird you buy books you'll never read. I always get ones i read. :shrug: But i buy them because i have to, cause i'll go nutter butter without something to read. I usually just buy regular novels, though...

It's just that I have so many that I'll never get to half of them while I'm alive. :laugh: I'm a book snob, though, it has to be something really fantastic for me to like it.

[amber]

:eek:

Never would I pay that for a concert, not even if it was their last tour. :lol: I've seen Tom Petty many times and never paid more than $50, and that includes being up near the stage. Saw Sheryl Crow for $35. Saw Blondie many, many times and never paid more than $35, even saw them at free concerts. Melissa Etheridge was $30. Aimee Mann was $15 when I saw her!
well, i had to, that's all there was left by the time i could buy it. Also, when i snuck in and saw them in Oakland from way back the year before, i promised myself that if I ever saw them again, i would be in front. Lo and behold, extended tour. They were also playing at my stadiums right next to my 30th birthday, so that was another extenuating circumstance. It's like it was fated....However, normally i would never, ever pay that much. I actually won tickets to the show, but they were lawn, and there was no way. Plus, I really thought i would never have a chance to see all of them again, after they did the DAnce. so it was really, really, like i had to do it. Next time i'm gonna have a fund saved, so i can get front row at a normal price. :) Plus, they are my fav, fav, fav, fav, fav band ever. As in, i hardly listen to a bunch of other stuff, as you can tell... :lol:

[amber]

It's just that I have so many that I'll never get to half of them while I'm alive. :laugh: I'm a book snob, though, it has to be something really fantastic for me to like it.
Ah. I'll read any damn thing. And in fact, prefer mystery and fantasy, so, it's not like there's a shortage of those...I guess you spend a lot of time listening to music and watching DVD's that i spend reading? :) By the way, send those books to me, i'll finish em!!!! :nod:

[dissention]

well, i had to, that's all there was left by the time i could buy it. Also, when i snuck in and saw them in Oakland from way back the year before, i promised myself that if I ever saw them again, i would be in front. Lo and behold, extended tour. They were also playing at my stadiums right next to my 30th birthday, so that was another extenuating circumstance. It's like it was fated....However, normally i would never, ever pay that much. I actually won tickets to the show, but they were lawn, and there was no way. Plus, I really thought i would never have a chance to see all of them again, after they did the DAnce. so it was really, really, like i had to do it. Next time i'm gonna have a fund saved, so i can get front row at a normal price. :)

Wait, I actually did pay that much when I saw Bette Midler. My bad. :laugh: Ah, how quickly we forget...

[Johnny Stew]

That's the worst excuse I have ever heard. When wasn't there "trouble behind the scenes?" Klonopin or not.

"Trouble behind the scenes" in that the original producer, Glyn Johns, blocked Stevie from using many of the musicians she was friends with and had worked with on her albums in the past... such as Waddy Wachtel.

And "trouble behind the scenes," in that Johns basically dictated what he felt the album should sound like, with apparently little regard to what STEVIE wanted her album to sound like.

Once Johns was out of the picture, Stevie and Thom Panunzio stripped many of the tracks back, and began overdubbing new instrumentation on top (including guitar work from Waddy).
Mixing and re-mixing the existing material in order to achieve a sound closer to what Stevie had originally wanted.

It's a great album, IMO, but due to the extent of the remixing and overdubbing, it lacks some of that spatial "breathing room" that her past music had.

So... the "trouble behind the scenes" that I was referring to, was in regards to the recording of the album itself, and not to any troubles in Stevie's personal life.

[dissention]

Ah. I'll read any damn thing. And in fact, prefer mystery and fantasy, so, it's not like there's a shortage of those...I guess you spend a lot of time listening to music and watching DVD's that i spend reading? :) By the way, send those books to me, i'll finish em!!!! :nod:

Oh, I'm always reading, and probably listening to music while doing so, but I'm just very snobby and picky. I actually like a lot of the Oprah picks. :eek:

[amber]

Wait, I actually did pay that much when I saw Bette Midler. My bad. :laugh: Ah, how quickly we forget...
A-Ha! (can't believe you paid that much for Bette...) :xoxo:

[dissention]

"Trouble behind the scenes" in that the original producer, Glyn Johns, blocked Stevie from using many of the musicians she was friends with and had worked with on her albums in the past... such as Waddy Wachtel.

And "trouble behind the scenes," in that Johns basically dictated what he felt the album should sound like, with apparently little regard to what STEVIE wanted her album to sound like.

Once Johns was out of the picture, Stevie and Thom Panunzio stripped many of the tracks back, and began overdubbing new instrumentation on top (including guitar work from Waddy).
Mixing and re-mixing the existing material in order to achieve a sound closer to that of what Stevie had originally wanted.

It's a great album, IMO, but due to the extent of the remixing and overdubbing, it lacks some of that spatial "breathing room" that her past music had.

So... the "trouble behind the scenes" that I was referring to, was in regards to the recording of the album itself, and not to any troubles in Stevie's personal life.

I've never understood this. Stevie has admitted to being an unpleasant person during this time and said she fired a lot of good people, why she didn't get rid of Johns is a mystery to me.

[amber]

Oh, I'm always reading, and probably listening to music while doing so, but I'm just very snobby and picky. I actually like a lot of the Oprah picks. :eek:
well, she picks good ones. :shrug: I like those books too. I love when she has Toni Morrison on - I love her books and that woman is radiant with intelligence and class. Oprah, i could do without! :)

[amber]

The Divine Miss M was supposed to be just about the best thing on the road this year, or so I heard...:shrug:

And, Amber? I read lots of books without spending a lot--the library can be a wonderful place! :]
yes, i know, i heard it was a great show. The library's ok. I actually owe them thirty five dollars from a book that flipped out of my backpack when i was rollerblading back from the pool last summer... :lol: :lol: It was a crappy book, is the worst part.... :lol:

[dissention]

The Divine Miss M was supposed to be just about the best thing on the road this year, or so I heard...:shrug:

Yup. Homegirl can put on a show that would knock every other singer/entertainer flat on their ass. She's not a woman in her fifties, she's a force of f*cking nature. I'll say it until I die, she's the greatest live act to hit the stage so far in history.

[dissention]

well, she picks good ones. :shrug: I like those books too. I love when she has Toni Morrison on - I love her books and that woman is radiant with intelligence and class. Oprah, i could do without! :)

I like Morrison, too. I also like Jane Hamilton, Wally Lamb (Shes Come Undone is fabulous), Jane Smiley, Michael Cunnigham, and Sue Miller. Once Were Warriors by Alan Duff is phenomenal, too. :nod:

[Johnny Stew]

I've never understood this. Stevie has admitted to being an unpleasant person during this time and said she fired a lot of good people, why she didn't get rid of Johns is a mystery to me.

Good question!
I've read from other artists who've worked with him, that he could be a very stubborn and intimidating man. Maybe Stevie felt overwhelmed? Or maybe it was just that she was initially too zoned-out to fight?

I know she's said that it was really AFTER she detoxed from the Klonopin, and went back to listen to the masters, that she totally panicked about how the album sounded and realized she needed to do something about it before it was released.

[amber]

I like Morrison, too. I also like Jane Hamilton, Wally Lamb (Shes Come Undone is fabulous), Jane Smiley, Michael Cunnigham, and Sue Miller. Once Were Warriors by Alan Duff is phenomenal, too. :nod:
Out of those, i think I've only read Wally Lamb and ...maybe Sue Miller. Is Once Were Warriors the one the movie was made of? I like depressing books, but not as much as non depressing books...thus, mystery and fantasy... :lol:

[GypsySorcerer]

I like Morrison, too. I also like Jane Hamilton, Wally Lamb (Shes Come Undone is fabulous), Jane Smiley, Michael Cunnigham, and Sue Miller. Once Were Warriors by Alan Duff is phenomenal, too. :nod:

Was Cunningham the author of The Hours? Great book. Can't think of the Sue Miller book I read....something about a woman pondering an affair. Of course, that could mean any number of books. :lol:

[dissention]

Was Cunningham the author of The Hours? Great book. Can't think of the Sue Miller book I read....something about a woman pondering an affair. Of course, that could mean any number of books. :lol:

Yup. LOVED The Hours.

The one you're thinking of by Miller is While I Was Gone. :woohoo:

[GypsySorcerer]

Yup. LOVED The Hours.

The one you're thinking of by Miller is While I Was Gone. :woohoo:

That was the one. :) I finished The Hours in less than a day. I couldn't put it down. Brilliant.

[GateandGarden]

that's weird you buy books you'll never read. I always get ones i read. :shrug: Yeah, that's what keeps me from spending over a hundred dollars (of my parent's money) on one trip to Barnes & Noble. I see lots of things I like, but I always just ask myself "Am I actually going to read this if I own it?" Too often, the answer is no, and that is what makes me put it back. The same goes for music, although I have more of a problem with that. I don't need anymore Mac music right now because what I have is enough to spend a year listening to, but, in the back of my mind, I'm like, Hey, they've got Future Games...haven't heard that one yet...okay, do I need it to listen to now?...NO, don't need it right now...but...I must have all the FM CDs! I can just ask Mom for one...no biggie... I bet I won't do that when it's my own money, though. :rolleyes:

[GateandGarden]

WELL...To play the devil's advocate, Hillary, Future Games is one of my very favorite albums. Christine's "Show Me A Smile" is just as good as anything she has ever recorded with the band. She sings it about a male in it, so maybe you might not like it as well as her gender-ambiguous songs? :shrug: "Sands of Time", "Woman of 1,000 Years," and "Sometimes" by Danny Kirwan are all absolutely perfect. Then there's Bob Welch's epic "Future Games." Oh, and that funky sax work by John Perfect on "What A Shame." The whole album has this ethereal, relaxing feel that I adore. If you like some of Stevie's folkier writings, you'll probably like Future Games.

So, I commend you for your decision to not spend so much on Fleetwood Mac music. Wait to buy Future Games, but make sure you buy it eventually. :)
--JustinCool! Thanks for your review of it, Justin. :) Makes me more excited about it than before. I definitely will get it eventually.

[Villavic]

I have all Mac stuff from the White Album to present. Plus Bare Trees. From the blues era, just what I got at the Chain boxset.

STevie: Timespace, Enchanted & TISL. But I'd like to have Bella Donna
Lindsey: His 3 solos, but I just like OOTC
Christine: Her solo cd from the 80s.

I'm a mac guy, Rumours lineup.