Fleetwood Mac Convention Austin TX 1992

[WelshWitchPMD]

I was looking through some of my Mac stuff and I found my commemorative program that they gave us at the convention. I was looking at the list of attendees and I was just wondering what happened to some of these people. Would they still be active in the fan community? I was wondering if anyone here on the Ledge attended. I know that sadly a few of the people did pass away. I would love to go to another Mac convention but I don’t think that would happen again.

[wetcamelfood]

Hi Pattie, I was there. :)

John

[ThePenguin]

Oh wow that would be the coolest thing. Especially more-so now since there is such an established on-line community, it could be a whole different dynamic than in years past.

Anyone want to organize one? :)

-Lis

[WelshWitchPMD]

Oh wow that would be the coolest thing. Especially more-so now since there is such an established on-line community, it could be a whole different dynamic than in years past.

Anyone want to organize one? :)

-Lis


I would like to be part of some sort of convention. Maybe like you mentioned with the internet it could be better. I was just a bit disappointed with the vendors. I thought that there would be more then they had but I always want more. :lol:

Sadly, I think that the internet has hurt some of the fun of going to record conventions. I used to go to a few up in Boston and they would have quite a few vendors selling everything from, posters, promo CDs, import CDs, press kits, photos, 'recorded shows" ;) ,etc. Today it is basically a waste of time.
Most of the vendors don't even bother coming anymore or just went out of business.

[David]

I was looking through some of my Mac stuff and I found my commemorative program that they gave us at the convention. I was looking at the list of attendees and I was just wondering what happened to some of these people. Would they still be active in the fan community?I haven't heard of anyone who's heard anything from or had any dealings with George Kane. Joe Admire is probably still around, wherever he hangs out online these days. Frank Harding, of course, grabbed his loot & fled overseas. I think a lot of those attendees are still around; everyone's got a registration-only Web board these days, which makes it tough to track old-timers.

[WelshWitchPMD]

I haven't heard of anyone who's heard anything from or had any dealings with George Kane.

Yeah, I don't see him advertise any more in Goldmine or anything. Goldmine has really gone down hill, too. Maybe he no longer has the store.

A lot of those vendors just faded away. There aren't too many places to find promo CDs anymore either. I had an advanced promo copy of the Dance a week before it came out. I even got a promo TISL CD a week before it's official release. When SYW was due to be released I could not find anyone that had an advanced promo copy. I still don't know if they ever did release a promo copy.

[ThePenguin]

I haven't heard of anyone who's heard anything from or had any dealings with George Kane. Joe Admire is probably still around, wherever he hangs out online these days.

We met Joe Admire, watta name from the past! My god that feels like ages ago. I guess it was about early 1996, i think I was pregnant w/ Brittany. But anyway, we met up in DC at Mick's old restaurant, 'Fleetwood's'! That was the first person we knew from on-line that we 'met' in person.

Anyone else ever been to Fleetwood's before it went under? There were some cool old pics (of FM/Christine Perfect and others) hanging on the walls. Actually we went a 2nd time w/ friends of ours from DC, our friend Jon stole a beautiful spoon and then presented it to me after we'd left. :laugh: Criminals, we are. But I still have the darn spoon, I love it!!

anyway i digress. We met Joe Admire. I actualy acquired a huge amount of my FM collection from him-- articles etc. Nice guy.

-Lis

[EnchantedSLN]

I haven't heard of anyone who's heard anything from or had any dealings with George Kane. Joe Admire is probably still around, wherever he hangs out online these days. Frank Harding, of course, grabbed his loot & fled overseas. I think a lot of those attendees are still around; everyone's got a registration-only Web board these days, which makes it tough to track old-timers.

George Kane sells a lot of stuff on eBay now.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Anyone else ever been to Fleetwood's before it went under? There were some cool old pics (of FM/Christine Perfect and others) hanging on the walls. Actually we went a 2nd time w/ friends of ours from DC, our friend Jon stole a beautiful spoon and then presented it to me after we'd left. :laugh: Criminals, we are. But I still have the darn spoon, I love it!!


-Lis
:shocked: So I guess that we now know the really reason the place folded! :laugh:

I did not even know that there was such a place. Now, with the internet you know just about everything that goes on in the Mac community. :blob1:

[TISL]

That seems like a long time ago... remember we got to talk to Mick on the phone? He was very gracious! Cool to meet the people I corresponded with by (gasp!) mail, like Joe Admire and others...

[WelshWitchPMD]

That seems like a long time ago... remember we got to talk to Mick on the phone? He was very gracious! Cool to meet the people I corresponded with by (gasp!) mail, like Joe Admire and others...


I was too shy to talk to Mick, anyway. Yeah, remember all the Mac pen pals and trades on TAPE. lol I don't miss those days at all.

[estranged4life]

Yeah, remember all the Mac pen pals and trades on TAPE. lol I don't miss those days at all.

not the dreaded Tape trades :lol: :nod: :laugh:

Brian j.

[WelshWitchPMD]

not the dreaded Tape trades :lol: :nod: :laugh:

Brian j.

Tapes and snail mail. Ooh the horror of it all. :lol:

[NicksIllume]

All of this sounds very cool except for the tape trades and what not. It just hit me that I was a mere six years old in 1992. :p

[ThePenguin]

Tapes and snail mail. Ooh the horror of it all. :lol:

Should I be embarrassed that this is still how I do trades??

:eek:


--Lis

[NicksIllume]

Should I be embarrassed that this is still how I do trades??

:eek:


--Lis

:laugh: Nah, you can be the Stevie of the trade world.

[MACFAN]

Attended a Fleetwood Mac convention in 1990 in Virginia Beach, VA run by the old Rumours fanzine.. We had a lot of fun. At one point there was like 40 people in my room, it was my birthday. One morning we were at the pool and watched housekeeping go into my room. She was in there for 2 hours.

[½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®]

I wasn’t at the “90 Rumours Convention” but I was at the Rumour Convention held 7/6-7/7 in Winston-Salem NC. We had a blast or at least a few others and I had a blast. I have a 2 hour video of the event that Terri Nissbaum sent me. Very professionally edited and mixed. I need to dig it out and transfer it to DVD. We got drunk with Joe Admire in the hotel bar and you folks knowing Joe might be able to picture it? :nod: I wonder what happened to all those fans too.

Joe, Ann Morgan, Diana Bennett, Kathy Mulvaney, Heidi Wallace, and so many others. I still have all the old Fanzines. The Velvet Underground, Dreams, Rumours. Those were the good old days. :blob1: I heard Pete Hass passed away from us. I would imagine all these people are still fans. A few might be embarrassed to get into the fan community again because the last night of the convention got pretty wild. If you mix alcohol, fans and being in an atmosphere like that, those things are supposed to happen. :]

I’m surprised Ann held the convention in Virginia Beach. The NC convention resulted in 2 rooms getting trashed. She told me “Never again.” We lost touch after awhile and last I heard she was in Iowa of all places. Let’s have another convention. I’ll bring some treats. :shrug:

[MACFAN]

Yeah the 90 convention was one big party. The first night we were there it was around 7:00 pm and all was quiet. So I got the radio I brought with us and proceeded to blast Fleetwood Mac music, poolside. All of a sudden people started to gather. The hotel if I remember correctly was quite large and there were people everywhere.

I wish I could remember more names but Terri :) : was there along with Shelly and her beau, Veronica, Linda, Laura with the award winning smile and beautiful blond hair, Rick, the mother/daughter team, Nicole, Joe, Mike, (if any of you guys are out there...HEY !) It was my birthday that weekend so my friend went and bought a cake (which nobody ate :shocked: ) One morning I woke up and there were bottles and paraphenalia everywhere in my room :woohoo: It was all alot of fun and crazy

[rbs3676]

I was there at the Red Roof Inn in Austin for that weekend.
I remember meeting Brian Townley there and thinking he was so cute...I remember Barbara McLuin performed at a karaoke bar...I remember the big dinner one night where Bill Gamelson soiled his tie...I remember Chris Nicks showing up and chatting with him...I remember the 3 girls from Georgia and the top hats they wore...somewhere I have some video footage of the convention.

It was such a long time ago, but I remember having fun!

rbs

[Livia]

Hi Pattie, I was there. :)

John

Ditto. :wavey:

[Starling]

Oh wow, just found this post! I was at both the Virginia Beach, Rumours Convention, and the one in Austin in 92. I can hardly remember a thing from it except for one person who...um...did a singing performance.

What a trip from the past!

I do remember Linda, Laura, Joe, Curtis, etc.....

Heck, I may have been one of the gals in the top hat! What fun!

[chiliD]

:shocked: So I guess that we now know the really reason the place folded! :laugh:

Yep, after all the silverware was gone, all they could serve was finger foods, then they got busted by the health department. :lol: :lol:

[Starling]

Pattie, just think! I'm sure we met at the convention...

How tightly woven the community still is amazes me... And I remember having a discussion with Mr. Chris Nicks because he blatantly told me he hates impersonators and people who dress like Stevie. We had about a 10 minute round of it while he was setting up his booth.

Kelly

[SteveMacD]

We met Joe Admire.
Whatever happened to Joe? He and Jeff Kenney are two guys who need a "Where Are They Now" segment!

[DavidMn]

I got a chance to know a guy by the name of Frank Harding when he lived here in Minnesota in the late 90's, and I know he was there. I've heard some bad things said about him by someone who sent me a pm. Can someone set the record straight :thumbsup: for me about him please?

[David]

Whatever happened to Joe? He and Jeff Kenney are two guys who need a "Where Are They Now" segment!Joe runs a site devoted to opera gloves (don't ask), & used to hang in alt.callahans on Usenet.

[Bandon]

I was there, too! :wavey:

[DavidMn]

I wanted to go, but you know, It was that old money thing.... :sorry:

[Starling]

Whatever happened to Joe? He and Jeff Kenney are two guys who need a "Where Are They Now" segment!


If memory serves, I sat at the dinner table with Joe, and I know I had a drink with him at the bar. I have some stories of that time...but I probably shouldn't post.... :)

[golddustwoman77]

I had just started college that year (1992), so I was on that "poor college student" budget. Therefore, I didn't make the trip.

I'm with Lis; we should have another one now. If we could only find someone who doesn't have a job to organize all this! :laugh:

[WelshWitchPMD]

Pattie, just think! I'm sure we met at the convention...


Kelly


I don't know. I am pretty quiet and I sort of kept to myself.

[Starling]

I don't know. I am pretty quiet and I sort of kept to myself.


Keeping to oneself is a good idea, I see, because what gets said gets twisted by some people very quickly.


**edited to add something here, due to an invididual who felt I was biased and getting personal when I made my comment about Chris Nicks hating Stevie impersonators. That would also include myself, like 13 years ago when I was a kid myself practically, in 1992, and he specifically told me he didn't like any of us who dressed up like her as he stated we didn't have individuality. I argued with him for a while saying that dressing up was an outlet for her venues/shows but not necessarily an every day part of living, nor did it mean we didn't have our own lives. I design jewelery, and I do make the crescent moon pendants and cuffs that Stevie used to wear many years ago, but to this certain individual, I have a website that showcases so much more beyond Stevie and Stevie is not my financial support system.

[GypsyAsh]

Yeah, I don't see him advertise any more in Goldmine or anything. Goldmine has really gone down hill, too. Maybe he no longer has the store.

A lot of those vendors just faded away. There aren't too many places to find promo CDs anymore either. I had an advanced promo copy of the Dance a week before it came out. I even got a promo TISL CD a week before it's official release. When SYW was due to be released I could not find anyone that had an advanced promo copy. I still don't know if they ever did release a promo copy.


I was the music manager at Hastings when SYW came out.. and yes we recieved several promo copies... we got a special one for in-store play alone... lots of posters and stuff too.

ciao!
Ash
x

[GypsyAsh]

[QUOTE=Starling] I have a website that showcases so much more beyond Stevie and Stevie is not my financial support system.
QUOTE]


I followed the link you gave from this post... you designed these pieces?!
Holy guacamole, I'm totally going to order something...
I'm from East Texas... in a location where you can still find authentic Native American jewelry(which is what i'm totally in love with)... but the jewelry out here is limited to certain stones.. and designs.. ya dig?
when I saw your witchblade cuffs I about flipped out of my chair...
I envision these pieces in my head... but now I can actually wear one in the real world..
oooh my..

ciao!
Ash
x

[Starling]

Hi Ash! :)

Thank you! While I follow some niche's because I love Witchblade, too, most of those designs on my site are of my own accord and thought flowing process. It's the circlets which are really the staple. I really enjoy doing what I do...and I feel priviledged to be able to work from home and maintain a lifestyle! :) By the way, I lived in Paris, Tx for a bit...I went to school there for jewelry design. You close to it?





[QUOTE=Starling] I have a website that showcases so much more beyond Stevie and Stevie is not my financial support system.
QUOTE]


I followed the link you gave from this post... you designed these pieces?!
Holy guacamole, I'm totally going to order something...
I'm from East Texas... in a location where you can still find authentic Native American jewelry(which is what i'm totally in love with)... but the jewelry out here is limited to certain stones.. and designs.. ya dig?
when I saw your witchblade cuffs I about flipped out of my chair...
I envision these pieces in my head... but now I can actually wear one in the real world..
oooh my..

ciao!
Ash
x

[shackin'up]

Oh wow that would be the coolest thing. Especially more-so now since there is such an established on-line community, it could be a whole different dynamic than in years past.

Anyone want to organize one? :)

-Lis

yeah in nijmegen.

[David]

**edited to add something here, due to an invididual who felt I was biased and getting personal when I made my comment about Chris Nicks hating Stevie impersonators. That would also include myself, like 13 years ago when I was a kid myself practically, in 1992, and he specifically told me he didn't like any of us who dressed up like her as he stated we didn't have individuality.Hahahaaa!! That's rich! Chris Nicks criticizing his sister's fans for not having "individuality." HAhahahaaa!!!

[WELSH WITCH]

yeah in nijmegen.


I second that :thumbsup:

[Mari]

Oh well, then I'll THIRD that!

[GypsyAsh]

Hi Ash! :)

Thank you! While I follow some niche's because I love Witchblade, too, most of those designs on my site are of my own accord and thought flowing process. It's the circlets which are really the staple. I really enjoy doing what I do...and I feel priviledged to be able to work from home and maintain a lifestyle! :) By the way, I lived in Paris, Tx for a bit...I went to school there for jewelry design. You close to it?





[QUOTE=GypsyAsh]


Paris really?.. I'm from Longview.... Paris is about 90 miles north of us...
where did you go to school at?
I'm interested.

Ciao
Ash
x

[Gypsy0033]

Teri Nissenbaum here.. a long time ledge lurker.. :cool:
and convention attendee NC and VA Beach.

[mmm stevie nick]

Teri Nissenbaum here.. a long time ledge lurker.. :cool:
and convention attendee NC and VA Beach.

Teri, Check your private messages. :xoxo:

[pryderi]

Does anyone have any photos to share from the Virginia Beach 1990 convention? Just wondering. I was there and had a complete blast!! One of the best times of my life meeting some great great people.

[StevieNicksfann]

I was there as well. Just graduated college. I sang Whole Lotta Trouble with someone but don't remember who. I remember a lip synch performance from a girl from Holland who I believe performed Stand Back. That's about all I remember. I was pretty lily white back then so I wasn't part of any partying.

[Tango]

I haven't heard of anyone who's heard anything from or had any dealings with George Kane. Joe Admire is probably still around, wherever he hangs out online these days. Frank Harding, of course, grabbed his loot & fled overseas. I think a lot of those attendees are still around; everyone's got a registration-only Web board these days, which makes it tough to track old-timers.

I hadn't thought about Frank Harding in long time. I remember the Q&A with Ken Caillat here on The Penguin years ago and his name name up. And saw the old newsgroup stuff:

The Penguin Q&A:

"Ken, you did a lot of work on Fleetwood Mac's "25 Years: The Chain." A man named Frank Harding is listed in the credits as a band historian & archivist. He spoke at a Mac fan convention in Texas about ten years ago. Did you know Mr. Harding or work alongside him for the box set project?" (David, Los Angeles, California, USA)

"Thank you for your interest. I do know Frank Harding, the last I saw of him was in 1990. Liked Mr. Harding then, and if anyone knows where Frank is, please have him get in touch with me, for, the last I saw of him he had borrowed a great deal of my Fleetwood Mac memorabilia and I would like it back please. In fact I had lyric sheets that I wanted to put in this DVD. Thanks Frank!"

I wonder if Ken ever heard anything. The newsgroup listed an address in Australia. Deagon, Queensland. Any of our Aussie people run into him?

[BrownEyedGirl26]

I hadn't thought about Frank Harding in long time. I remember the Q&A with Ken Caillat here on The Penguin years ago and his name name up. And saw the old newsgroup stuff:

The Penguin Q&A:

"Ken, you did a lot of work on Fleetwood Mac's "25 Years: The Chain." A man named Frank Harding is listed in the credits as a band historian & archivist. He spoke at a Mac fan convention in Texas about ten years ago. Did you know Mr. Harding or work alongside him for the box set project?" (David, Los Angeles, California, USA)

"Thank you for your interest. I do know Frank Harding, the last I saw of him was in 1990. Liked Mr. Harding then, and if anyone knows where Frank is, please have him get in touch with me, for, the last I saw of him he had borrowed a great deal of my Fleetwood Mac memorabilia and I would like it back please. In fact I had lyric sheets that I wanted to put in this DVD. Thanks Frank!"

I wonder if Ken ever heard anything. The newsgroup listed an address in Australia. Deagon, Queensland. Any of our Aussie people run into him?

I used to talk to Frank often in the late '80s before and after he went over to 'work' with Mick on his book. When he got back he showed me the book and the discograhy and archives going right back to the Peter Green days.He was happy and proud of what he'd done. He sold me a lot of things that I will always have. He was/is an Englishman originally and was living and working as a "builder" here in Perth when I met him. He built his own house and I visited him and his first wife, nice lady, a few times to enhance my collection of Stevie memorabilia. The next time I saw him was when we camped out to buy tickets for the next FM concert and he was with his second wife. The first marriage ended, he said, because of his "obsession with Fleetwood Mac, as he told me at the time. From what I have heard, he apparently burnt quite a few people financially but I don't know all the details so I can't comment. I personally know of a business man that had said he did the wrong thing by him and as a result told me "not to trust him". I had no problem with him myself. I think you have to be careful with anybody these days. The last time I spoke with him was as a result of calling his mother which he insisted on if I needed to speak with him regarding his collection which was mainly at her house because he was away. She was a lovely lady and spoke with a beautiful English accent. She kindly gave me his new phone number and he said that because of his "obsession" with FM, as he put it, he had to change his lifestyle because of his new wife and two twin boys. He told me he was working for a company that produces environmentaly friendly products in Queensland. He told me the name of the company but I've forgotten it since it was a while ago. I have'nt spoken to him since but I still have his phone number somewhere.

[pryderi]

Here's a photo from Virginia Beach 1990. Here I am with Laura Grabsch. Haven't heard from her in years.

[SorcererJP]

I second that :thumbsup:

Me too!

I remember the Stevie conventions of the Affairs of the Heart-fanzine in the early 90's.

Were always lots of fun, tapetrading, penpals all before the interwebs :)

[Macfanforever]

Me too!

I remember the Stevie conventions of the Affairs of the Heart-fanzine in the early 90's.

Were always lots of fun, tapetrading, penpals all before the interwebs :)

Yes I do remember some of those Stevie/FM fanzines that I subscribed to at the time did some coverage of those FM conventions.I got to dig them out.

[Macfanforever]

Here's a photo from Virginia Beach 1990. Here I am with Laura Grabsch. Haven't heard from her in years.


I love her Stevie hair.