Late LIB Reactions [Archive]

Alexbt

12-25-2004, 07:17 PM

Well, finally got Live in Boston, for Christmas.

It is certainly a different experience.

Some suprising moments:

Tusk - I wasn't expecting to hear the USC Marching Band. When I did, I figured that they simply sampled that... then I heard Christine shouting "Tusk" with them and had to laugh.

Also, what's up with Lindsey's dancing? Did they ever do this weird stuff during live shows before?

Go Your Own Way - Lindsey's gone crazy by this point... banging the crap out of his guitar... I was afraid he was gonna break it.
(Didn't it end up getting broken later in the tour?)
The grabbing fans are amusing to watch... they're all like... "Must Grab! Must Touch! Nice Guitar!"

NicksIllume

12-25-2004, 09:00 PM

I got LIB for Christmas also, but I had seen it several times before. After a while, you notice the little things. All of Lindsey's "irregularities", way too many details about Stevie's appearance, playing air instruments, etc. I love it, but I still miss Christine on Don't Stop. It's not the same so I fast forward through Stevie's singing. :eek:

Sorcerer386

12-26-2004, 01:09 AM

I just wish the show was available in regular television format instead of wide screen...it makes everything look too wide (especially Stevie's face, it looks stretched out). Also, I notice especially on my first disc that the audio is like, 1/2 a second off from the video, which tends to get a little annoying. It's kind of stange too, because it's like a totally reversal from The Dance between Lindsey and Stevie. Lindsey seemed very cool and conservative on The Dance while Stevie danced around, and here it's backward, which I really don't like. Sometimes during the show I wonder if Lindsey's going through a midlife crisis and is trying to be all flashy while Stevie looks like age is catching up with her. I just remind myself though that The Dance was a recording that happened to be a concert, whereas LIB was a concert that happened to be a recording...if you can see the distinction.

The show isn't bad...it blows the socks off of what most other bands can do in their prime. I don't know though, there's something lackluster about it. It seems sloppy somehow...but I do like it.

GateandGarden

12-26-2004, 01:32 AM

The show isn't bad...it blows the socks off of what most other bands can do in their prime. I don't know though, there's something lackluster about it. It seems sloppy somehow...but I do like it.I feel the same way. It leaves me wanting more but I still enjoy it.

If only Stevie wouldn't do that damn lasso thing. It drives me crazy every time. :rolleyes:

Hillary

strandinthewind

12-26-2004, 01:45 AM

. . . The show isn't bad...it blows the socks off of what most other bands can do in their prime. I don't know though, there's something lackluster about it. It seems sloppy somehow...but I do like it.

Om this day of produced EVERYTHING - it is refreshing to see a live show that is imperfect. I mean The Dance was GREAT - but it was HEAVILY edited, etc. Truth be known - I prefer The Dance, but I really like LIB :cool:

Alexbt

12-26-2004, 02:10 AM

I thought the first disc was a bit out of synch too. Must be the pressing/fault of the editors, etc.

It had seemed like everything was overdubbed.

Oh, another one:

Stevie wears in Stand Back the same shawl as the Tango DVD!

I kinda laughed and was suprised that she still has it and still wears it!

Oh, question... on the Wild Heart/Timespace version, who is the 'main' backup vocalist? Is it Sharon or Lori? On the Tango DVD it sounds like one of them. On LIB, it sounds too pure...

ontheEdgeof17

12-26-2004, 01:32 PM

If only Stevie wouldn't do that damn lasso thing. It drives me crazy every time. :rolleyes:

That's crazy!?!?!?! The lasso is what makes the song. It's a hell of a lot better than air guitar. :xoxo:

ontheEdgeof17

12-26-2004, 01:34 PM

Stevie wears in Stand Back the same shawl as the Tango DVD!

I kinda laughed and was suprised that she still has it and still wears it!

Similiar, yes. In All Access she said she had a new one made and the old one is out of comission. Now, if the dress would go along with it.....

GateandGarden

12-26-2004, 01:53 PM

It's a hell of a lot better than air guitar. :xoxo:True. But at least air guitar is to be expected. I'm still racking my brains trying to figure out what the air lasso has to do with "Say You Will," and how the hell she came up with that. :laugh: It totally surprised me.

Now, if the dress would go along with it.....I hear ya! :laugh:

I mean The Dance was GREAT - but it was HEAVILY edited, etc.What was done to it?

Hillary

Nixxxed

12-26-2004, 02:02 PM

I got LIB for Christmas too! I watched it on PBS over the summer, and it will be awesome to be able to see it all the way through without constant interruptions by people laying a guilt trip on me to send PBS money. Well, except switching discs in the middle of the show, which I STILL don't understand. :shrug:

I was pleasantly surprised by the package. When it first came out, the whole digipak idea really turned me off. I like DVD cases for some reason -- maybe it's because the pictures on the case are bigger (yes, I sill miss 12" LP covers). But I liked the package, especially the picture under the DVDs that shows the whole stage & the crowd.

My Mom liked it too, but the first thing out of her mouth when she opened it up all the way (to the band onstage pics) was, "Wow -- those are some ugly shoes Stevie is wearing!!!" :laugh:

strandinthewind

12-26-2004, 02:05 PM

. . . What was done to it?

Hillary

Well, first of all, it was shot in a sound controlled environment as oppsoed to an arena. It was also choreographed and shot in studio lighting and from craneed camera. There were also overdubs (music and voice) and probably digital enhancing of the faces. There was a post (actually several) awhile back about this. It turned into a HUGE LB vs. La Nicks fight (SURPRISE :laugh) - Let me just put is this way, even LB said The Dance was a produced thing and LIB was rawer that that :cool:

GateandGarden

12-26-2004, 02:09 PM

jwd

12-27-2004, 01:01 AM

I LOVE Stevie singing "Beautiful Child". Not quite as impressive as seeing it live, but it still brings tears to my eyes. LIB would be worth it to me for that one song alone. Other highlights for me are "Say Goodbye", seeing Lindsey and Stevie singing face to face as if there was no one else in the room....intense! And Lindsey going WILD on "Come". One of the few songs I actually enjoyed listening to him sing, along with the aforementioned one. All in all the concert was enjoyable, but lacked a little spark and spontaneity like The Dance had. But hey it always helps when you get a brand new dvd player/recorder to go along with it! :xoxo:

amber

12-27-2004, 02:47 AM

True. But at least air guitar is to be expected. I'm still racking my brains trying to figure out what the air lasso has to do with "Say You Will," and how the hell she came up with that. :laugh: It totally surprised me.

I hear ya! :laugh:

I hate the lasso, too. For some reason that whole dance really embarrasses me. :o

Alexbt

12-27-2004, 04:12 AM

LIB is kinda weird compared to The Dance. I mean, it sounds to me as if it was recorded in almost the same way. The way it was filed is also very similar (with the cranes and such.)

The way it was mixed is waht's the major difference in the sound. The Dance has a very nice warm rounded sound to it. I don't really know how to describe LIB.

Anyways, about some specific songs...

Don't Stop -- Missing Christine is obvious... then there's the fact that Brett doesn't play it anything like her! (People who read my posts should know I don't like how he plays her parts). Also, I really wonder why Stevie sings the wrong lyrics to Chris's part... One would think she'd know the words after all these years.

Stand Back -- This one sounds awesome, and is an exception to most of the cases. However, this is a Stevie solo song, not a FM song. Brett actually plays this VERY well. (At least, more accurately than Christine ever did, but I like her cute variation on it). I'll have to look it up and see if he ever was solo Stevie's keyboardist... or one of them. Plus, I can't hear Lindsey really doing anything.

For those who don't know, I'm a keyboardist myself. That's why I'm so darned picky. Though I'm sure those of you who have seen the Tango DVD era stuff know what I mean, with Rick and Billy doing Lindsey's stuff.

NicksIllume

12-27-2004, 09:32 AM

Don't Stop -- Missing Christine is obvious... then there's the fact that Brett doesn't play it anything like her! (People who read my posts should know I don't like how he plays her parts). Also, I really wonder why Stevie sings the wrong lyrics to Chris's part... One would think she'd know the words after all these years.

:xoxo: I don't mind Stevie on World Turning because she works it. Don't Stop is a whole other story. Ever noticed how violent her wrist and arm shakes during Silver Springs? I love all the little things I noticed on LIB.

Sorcerer386

12-27-2004, 01:57 PM

Well, first of all, it was shot in a sound controlled environment as oppsoed to an arena. It was also choreographed and shot in studio lighting and from craneed camera. There were also overdubs (music and voice) and probably digital enhancing of the faces. There was a post (actually several) awhile back about this. It turned into a HUGE LB vs. La Nicks fight (SURPRISE :laugh) - Let me just put is this way, even LB said The Dance was a produced thing and LIB was rawer that that :cool:

Right...like I said, The Dance was a recording that happened to be a concert. LIB was a concert that happened to be recorded.

As far as the air lasso goes, I think Stevie is just doing it as a dance move (as she says, "if I can get you to dance"). There's not much more she could do while in front of a microphone that would really go along with the song. She could wave her hands in the air like she just don't care, but the song really isn't "hard" enough for that. And plus, I've noticed ever since seeing her do the air lasso that Say You Will (the song) has a tiny, TINY bit of a country feel to it. So, I just think it's a fitting little dance. :]

ontheEdgeof17

12-27-2004, 02:28 PM

Stand Back -- This one sounds awesome, and is an exception to most of the cases. However, this is a Stevie solo song, not a FM song.

It is a Fleetwood Mac song. They have been playing it since '87

Brett actually plays this VERY well. (At least, more accurately than Christine ever did, but I like her cute variation on it). I'll have to look it up and see if he ever was solo Stevie's keyboardist... or one of them.

He was. Enchanted tour, for sure. I'm not sure about TISL. I'd have to listen to a boot.

Plus, I can't hear Lindsey really doing anything.

Lindsey didn't do anything on it. It's like her Big Love or Come. He does do a mean lip-synch, though. :D

Villavic

12-27-2004, 02:41 PM

Well, finally got Live in Boston, for Christmas.

Tusk - I wasn't expecting to hear the USC Marching Band. When I did, I figured that they simply sampled that... then I heard Christine shouting "Tusk" with them and had to laugh.

Also, what's up with Lindsey's dancing? Did they ever do this weird stuff during live shows before?

Go Your Own Way - Lindsey's gone crazy by this point... banging the crap out of his guitar... I was afraid he was gonna break it.
(Didn't it end up getting broken later in the tour?)
The grabbing fans are amusing to watch... they're all like... "Must Grab! Must Touch! Nice Guitar!"

I liked Lindsey's dance, from Tusk but specially from STand Back intro. Though the Tusk one is a bit weird, I admit

Didn't like GYOW. Didn't like his voice, hard to avoid comparing it with other live versions

Alexbt

12-27-2004, 03:57 PM

It is a Fleetwood Mac song. They have been playing it since '87

No, it's very much a solo Stevie song. It's from her second solo album, "The Wild Heart" from 1983. But, yes, FM has been playing it since 87. ;)

I did look up the keyboard stuff... then I found out what Prince had to do with it, he's the who wrote the keyboard part that's umm.. well.. mostly 'B's in two octaves.

ontheEdgeof17

12-27-2004, 09:07 PM

No, it's very much a solo Stevie song. It's from her second solo album, "The Wild Heart" from 1983. But, yes, FM has been playing it since 87. ;)

I know that. Still, it is now a Fleetwood Mac song just like Go Insane. They both have appeared on FM albums.

strandinthewind

12-27-2004, 09:31 PM

I know that. Still, it is now a Fleetwood Mac song just like Go Insane. They both have appeared on FM albums.

technically, SB has been on the TITN video, the boxed set (same version as video) , and LIB. So . . . I think it has been adopted :cool:

tynan88

12-27-2004, 09:39 PM

Stand Back rocks and it rocks harder with the Mac.

Tynan

ontheEdgeof17

12-27-2004, 09:44 PM

technically, SB has been on the TITN video, the boxed set (same version as video) , and LIB. So . . . I think it has been adopted :cool:

:xoxo: I love when we agree.

strandinthewind

12-27-2004, 09:47 PM

:xoxo: I love when we agree.

Where is that blushing icon ( :o is the only close one :cool: ) when I need it :cool:

ontheEdgeof17

12-27-2004, 10:22 PM

Where is that blushing icon ( :o is the only close one :cool: ) when I need it :cool:

Just use the kissing one instead.

Kelly

12-28-2004, 07:39 AM

Lindsey contributes one thing I really love to Stand Back, his chest pounding, lip synch screaming "I NEED A LITTLE SYMPATHY!" I'll give ya a little sympathy, Linds.
Ahhh, so hot.
He did that especially intensely in Holmdel, beating his chest with his fist and YELLING "I need a little sympathy". It was a fine moment!

bikerchic

12-28-2004, 01:26 PM

dissention

12-28-2004, 01:41 PM

Om this day of produced EVERYTHING - it is refreshing to see a live show that is imperfect. I mean The Dance was GREAT - but it was HEAVILY edited, etc. Truth be known - I prefer The Dance, but I really like LIB :cool:

I've been playing the new Bowie concert DVD endlessly and I think that they should've gone the route he did production-wise. It would have added more "energy" to it all. I love LIB as it is, but I can only imagine how phenomenal it would have been with video effects. When I first got the Bowie DVD, I was a little put off by the enormity of all of the effects, but now I think it's probably one of the best concert films ever. Just superb, you should check it out. 30 songs and two and a half hours. :eek:

NicksIllume

12-28-2004, 02:31 PM

I call that his horny orangutan dance :lol: I love it! :nod:

:lol: More power to ya, Linds!

Lala

12-28-2004, 10:05 PM

Has anyone else noticed during GYOW when Lindsey's down w/ the audience and they're all touching his guitar there's this blonde woman who looks like she's maybe in her 40s and she goes "Oh my god". I've noticed it every time I watch LIB and it makes me laugh.