What are your plans for Christmas?

[AliceLover]

Just wondering what everyone is doing for christmas.

On christmas eve i must go to mass (again, had to go to a mass at school because its a catholic school) and sit there for an hour before to get good seats then another hour for the mass.

Then I will trek my way to my uncles, eat good food, open presents (pretend to like them), be attacked by all my little cousins, and watch some of the 24 Christmas Story.

Christmas is nice. its at my house. Some people come over eat drink, and be merry.


Its all good!


Jimmy

[amber]

Just wondering what everyone is doing for christmas.

On christmas eve i must go to mass (again, had to go to a mass at school because its a catholic school) and sit there for an hour before to get good seats then another hour for the mass.

Then I will trek my way to my uncles, eat good food, open presents (pretend to like them), be attacked by all my little cousins, and watch some of the 24 Christmas Story.

Christmas is nice. its at my house. Some people come over eat drink, and be merry.


Its all good!


Jimmy
Sounds good!
I am off work from the 23rd to Jan 3rd. I had the good fortune to meet and become friends with a girl who happened to be from my hometown about a year ago. She is giving me a ride to my parents house on the 24th. :woohoo: (otherwise i could not go). We do our thing on Xmas eve, so, we will do our thing, and probably just sit around after that. But my parents' yard will probably have lots of pretty lights up, and my mom will have decorated the "christmas pole" inside (A pole my mom carved and put other things on, decorated with lights). Also, my parents rescued a dog - it was just getting thinner and thinner at this guy who my dad works with house. They wouldn't take it to the vet, even though they were buying other things. :mad: So i get to meet that dog. Also, when i was there for Xmas last year, it snowed a few inches, and so i took my parents dog for a walk down the road, and we found deer tracks in the snow and it was fun to watch the dog get all "trackie/hunty" in the forest. :lol: So i really hope it snows again! It's very beautiful there, it will be nice to smell the air, look at the stars, and savor the silence.... :) For a few days to have the illusion of "peace on earth"

[skcin]

On christmas eve i must go to mass (again, had to go to a mass at school because its a catholic school) and sit there for an hour before to get good seats then another hour for the mass.



Jimmy


So, ummm......good seats for mass? That's a lofty goal for the holiday! I'm just teasing you - but really, what's a "good seat" - one you can see everything from, or one where nobody can see you doze off? :laugh:

My day will start at my house exchanging with hubby around 7am. Then over to his parent's by 8 for more gifts, a huge homemade breakfast & mimosas (sp? Never mind, I'll be buzzed by 10am & won't care how to spell at that point! :laugh: ) Jet over to my parent's around 11, eat again, hang until 3 or 4 (no exchanging there this year, we already did that on Thanksgiving when my bro was in town. It was a total relief to get some of it over with!) Then over to his Grandparent's house around 5 for more gifts, more food & more drinks. Usually home by 9 or 10pm.

BTW, every year we insist we'll try to rush less, squeeze in a nap, blah blah blah. Never happens! It's exhausting, but I really don't mind at all. Family is what Xmas is all about for me. :nod:

[AliceLover]

[QUOTE=skcin]So, ummm......good seats for mass? That's a lofty goal for the holiday! I'm just teasing you - but really, what's a "good seat" - one you can see everything from, or one where nobody can see you doze off? :laugh:

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Well since my church is fairly small, a large a mount of people come to each mass so some people end up standing. Actually a lot do, thats what i meant by good seats lol.

Jimmy

[madformac]

Well, I'm working the 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th...... :distress:

Plus I get the added bonus of getting the 25th December and the 2nd January off to come home to an empty house... What joy... :rolleyes:

I don't really celebrate xmas anyway, not anymore... Since I've worked in retail all I do is work through xmas...

Ahh well... I'll settle down with a guitar, some music and a Jack Daniels I expect.. :blob1:

[amber]

Well, I'm working the 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th...... :distress:

Plus I get the added bonus of getting the 25th December and the 2nd January off to come home to an empty house... What joy... :rolleyes:

I don't really celebrate xmas anyway, not anymore... Since I've worked in retail all I do is work through xmas...

Ahh well... I'll settle down with a guitar, some music and a Jack Daniels I expect.. :blob1:
awww....suck o rama! I wish i could go to your house. :( (I like Jack Daniels and guitars) :laugh: I can't believe you have to work so much. Well, i can't believe anyone ever has to work, but... :rolleyes: Most of all, me.

[madformac]

awww....suck o rama! I wish i could go to your house. :( (I like Jack Daniels and guitars) :laugh: I can't believe you have to work so much. Well, i can't believe anyone ever has to work, but... :rolleyes: Most of all, me.

Thanks for the thoughts Amber. :xoxo: It's a real bitch watching everybody else have fun and be off work and I'm stuck in the store pissed at life.. :shrug:

Yes you are welcome to come here but it's 5203 miles from Oakland so I doubt you'll get here in time for xmas if you come by car/boat :laugh:

I'll toast a JD to you though.. :nod:

[dissention]

I'm having Christmas with the "family." :rolleyes: :woohoo:

I can only tolerate my aunt's schtick for so long and then I'm ready to slit my wrists. She's loopier than anyone I've ever met in my life. I think the aliens left her behind on purpose when they went home. Her husband works for Mass Mutual and tries to sell me policies all day long.

My uncle is the biggest asshole and such a pervert. He cuts photos out of Playboy's and puts them in his wallet. I've never liked him. His ex-wife came last year and they got into a fight, I haven't seen him since.

I get along with my cousins, but they're the kind of folks that have had everything given to them in life and it drives me nuts to hear them brag about this and that. I feel like slashing their tires and pissing on their upholestry by the end of the night out of pure spite.

And the one thing that drives me absolutely bonkers is how my aunt leaves price tags on the gifts and then makes it a point to make you look at how much it cost. Tacky wench.

[madformac]

I'm having Christmas with the "family." :rolleyes: :woohoo:

I can only tolerate my aunt's schtick for so long and then I'm ready to slit my wrists. She's loopier than anyone I've ever met in my life. I think the aliens left her behind on purpose when they went home. Her husband works for Mass Mutual and tries to sell me policies all day long.

My uncle is the biggest asshole and such a pervert. He cuts photos out of Playboy's and puts them in his wallet. I've never liked him. His ex-wife came last year and they got into a fight, I haven't seen him since.

I get along with my cousins, but they're the kind of folks that have had everything given to them in life and it drives me nuts to hear them brag about this and that. I feel like slashing their tires and pissing on their upholestry by the end of the night out of pure spite.

And the one thing that drives me absolutely bonkers is how my aunt leaves price tags on the gifts and then makes it a point to make you look at how much it cost. Tacky wench.

Sounds like an episode of Seinfeld dude.. :eek: :laugh: :laugh:

[amber]

I get along with my cousins, but they're the kind of folks that have had everything given to them in life and it drives me nuts to hear them brag about this and that. I feel like slashing their tires and pissing on their upholestry by the end of the night out of pure spite.

I'm sure yours is very painful, but it was hella funny to read. And the part above? I've been hearing so many people brag lately that i actually know where you're coming from. It does arouse vandalistic tendencies... :wavey:

[amber]

Thanks for the thoughts Amber. :xoxo: It's a real bitch watching everybody else have fun and be off work and I'm stuck in the store pissed at life.. :shrug:

Yes you are welcome to come here but it's 5203 miles from Oakland so I doubt you'll get here in time for xmas if you come by car/boat :laugh:

I'll toast a JD to you though.. :nod:
5203 huh? Did you mapquest that? :laugh: Thanks for the shot. My parents don't drink, so, none for me on Xmas!

[skcin]

Sounds like an episode of Seinfeld dude.. :eek: :laugh: :laugh:


No ****! Diss, I feel for ya. Would alcohol help? I mean for you - apparently, your family doesn't need any alcohol, they seem "fun" enough. :xoxo:

[skcin]

. My parents don't drink, so, none for me on Xmas!

Wha-wha-WHAT?

Oh, Amber, I'm so sorry. :sorry:

JK, I'm sure you'll manage. I'll think of you as I toss back my first drink at 9am. :wavey:

[dissention]

No ****! Diss, I feel for ya. Would alcohol help? I mean for you - apparently, your family doesn't need any alcohol, they seem "fun" enough. :xoxo:

They're batty. If you think I'm a loon, you ain't seen nothing. Think of the richest assholes you can think of and then multiply them by ten. Throw in every curse word known to man and you've got the lot I'm spending Christmas with.

Two years ago, my mother, my sister, and I went to spend it at my aunt's house and she was a horror. She had just bought the house after selling hers on Nantucket and gave a blow by blow account of how much everything in it cost. That's the epitome of tackiness, my dear.

[dissention]

I'm sure yours is very painful, but it was hella funny to read. And the part above? I've been hearing so many people brag lately that i actually know where you're coming from. It does arouse vandalistic tendencies... :wavey:

I hate braggarts with a passion. My cousins are the type that get everything for nothing, though, and then brag it about it. That lights my ass on fire. Those of us who have to work for a living aren't afforded those luxuries.

[amber]

Wha-wha-WHAT?

Oh, Amber, I'm so sorry. :sorry:

JK, I'm sure you'll manage. I'll think of you as I toss back my first drink at 9am. :wavey:
well, i've been slightly sick (cough, sore throat, runny nose) for the past 3 days, due to chainsmoking and drinking for the two weeks before that. since i didn't want to smoke at this time, i've also been trying to quit. There's no way i will quit if I drink. Also, my parents (although they smoke) don't think i smoke, so i can't easily smoke when i'm at their house anyway, and also I can't drink (well, i could, i've gone to the bar down the street before, but why bother?) So, you see how the many forces are conspiring to get me to not smoke and drink? :D My mom quit drinking when she was 25 cause it started giving her headaches. Drank heavily for a few years before that, i think. My dad was an alcoholic, and when i was 8-9, and he wanted to come live with us, my mom said he had to stop drinking (which was why she left in the first place, when i was about 1 1/2.) So he did. So he can't drink anymore. :shrug: I think it's nice my parents don't drink. :D

[madformac]

5203 huh? Did you mapquest that? :laugh: Thanks for the shot. My parents don't drink, so, none for me on Xmas!

Yes I did... I was bored and interested at the same time!! :laugh:

No drinks huh? Well I'll have two or maybe three for ya then.. :thumbsup: ;)

[WelshWitchPMD]

Well, I'm working the 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th...... :distress:

Plus I get the added bonus of getting the 25th December and the 2nd January off to come home to an empty house... What joy... :rolleyes:

I don't really celebrate xmas anyway, not anymore... Since I've worked in retail all I do is work through xmas...

Ahh well... I'll settle down with a guitar, some music and a Jack Daniels I expect.. :blob1:


I feel your pain. I used to work in retail about 16 years ago. I really don't know how I did it. I was thinking of getting an extra part time job for the holidays but I just could not bring myself to work in a store or mall ever.

The only thing that might be worse it working at the post office (see my post on the "How's your Shopping Going"? thread about the nasty lady.)

Just put on some Mac and enjoy the quiet on your days off.

[madformac]

They're batty. If you think I'm a loon, you ain't seen nothing. Think of the richest assholes you can think of and then multiply them by ten. Throw in every curse word known to man and you've got the lot I'm spending Christmas with.

Two years ago, my mother, my sister, and I went to spend it at my aunt's house and she was a horror. She had just bought the house after selling hers on Nantucket and gave a blow by blow account of how much everything in it cost. That's the epitome of tackiness, my dear.

Assholes can be tolerated.. Rich but nice, down to earth people are great... But if you take an asshole and make 'em rich it does tend to breed a kind of superasshole.. An asshole so puckered it wouldn't make it worse if you stuck a slice of lemon in there... Makes me feel better that I'm on my own man... Good luck.. :shocked:

[amber]

I hate braggarts with a passion. My cousins are the type that get everything for nothing, though, and then brag it about it. That lights my ass on fire. Those of us who have to work for a living aren't afforded those luxuries.Two years ago, my mother, my sister, and I went to spend it at my aunt's house and she was a horror. She had just bought the house after selling hers on Nantucket and gave a blow by blow account of how much everything in it cost. That's the epitome of tackiness, my dear.

Your aunt is gross. No one with politeness, decorum, manners, class, gives a blow by blow of how much their **** costs. Empty person impressed with empty things. My grandma is like that - she is not wealthy but is impressed by wealth. it's gross. How old are your cousins? What do you do when they do that?

[amber]

Yes I did... I was bored and interested at the same time!! :laugh:

No drinks huh? Well I'll have two or maybe three for ya then.. :thumbsup: ;)
:laugh: :laugh: cute. yeah, have a cig. for me too. (J/K)

[madformac]

:laugh: :laugh: cute. yeah, have a cig. for me too. (J/K)

I don't actually smoke but I'll get some candy ones instead and just pretend! :laugh: :laugh:

[dissention]

Your aunt is gross. No one with politeness, decorum, manners, class, gives a blow by blow of how much their **** costs. Empty person impressed with empty things. My grandma is like that - she is not wealthy but is impressed by wealth. it's gross. How old are your cousins? What do you do when they do that?

My cousins are 22 and 24. I usually just remind them of how little they work and how while they may some some wonderful material stuff, their lives are empty and they need their parents to wipe their asses. That usually elicits groans from my aunt and both of them. I put one of them on the mailing list for the army last year. :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

My plans for Christmas are nothing out of the ordinary. I'm just doing the family thing for the weekend. I'm travelling to the VA border for New Years though....to see my lovie.....Then drink until Jan 2. :nod:

[amber]

I don't actually smoke but I'll get some candy ones instead and just pretend! :laugh: :laugh:
I know you don't smoke.

[amber]

My cousins are 22 and 24. I usually just remind them of how little they work and how while they may some some wonderful material stuff, their lives are empty and they need their parents to wipe their asses. That usually elicits groans from my aunt and both of them. I put one of them on the mailing list for the army last year. :laugh:
:laugh: :thumbsup:

[Livia]

What do all Jews do on Xmas? Well, in our family, it was eat Chinese food and go to the movies. Only, I'd much rather rent and watch DVD's at home these days. :p But, I kinda wish I was hangin' at Diss's house. :lol:

[madformac]

I know you don't smoke.

Well that's not strictly true to be honest. I've been known to have the odd one on holiday in the past and my head smokes with frustration at work sometimes..... :lol: :laugh: :lol:

[dissention]

What do all Jews do on Xmas? Well, in our family, it was eat Chinese food and go to the movies. Only, I'd much rather rent and watch DVD's at home these days. :p But, I kinda wish I was hangin' at Diss's house. :lol:

I want to go to your house and pig out on Chinese. Crab rangoons, chicken finger, general tso's chicken; you've got me salivating. :xoxo:

[SuzeQuze]

My cousins are 22 and 24. I usually just remind them of how little they work and how while they may some some wonderful material stuff, their lives are empty and they need their parents to wipe their asses. That usually elicits groans from my aunt and both of them. I put one of them on the mailing list for the army last year. :laugh:

LOL! That's great. I couldn't imagine you would keep quiet while they babble on about nonsense! Unfortunately they will probably learn the hard way why it is all so empty.

I used to work for an Admin who supported the CEO and he used to brag to her about stuff like his $30,000 home stereo system. Why on EARTH would he tell his admin this??? GRRRR... Makes me want to vandalize things! LOL.

[SuzeQuze]

I want to go to your house and pig out on Chinese. Crab rangoons, chicken finger, general tso's chicken; you've got me salivating. :xoxo:

My friend Jon goes skiing which he says is great because no one is on the mountain on Christmas day! Last year I vowed to go away over the holiday but I didn't do that, too many financial pitfalls this year, AHHHHGGGRRR!!!

Diss, we have a fab gourmet Italian restaurant near me called Billy Tse's. Maybe we should blow off the families and go there! Hehe. Or pick up a feast in Chinatown and eat until we puke then eat some more!! Oh the holidays make me crazy!
:] :]

[dissention]

LOL! That's great. I couldn't imagine you would keep quiet while they babble on about nonsense! Unfortunately they will probably learn the hard way why it is all so empty.

I used to work for an Admin who supported the CEO and he used to brag to her about stuff like his $30,000 home stereo system. Why on EARTH would he tell his admin this??? GRRRR... Makes me want to vandalize things! LOL.

I am such a snob at family gatherings. I walk in the house and just think to myself "I am so much better than these people." :laugh: Did you ever see The Myth of Fingerprints? I am exactly like Julianne Moore in that flick. :laugh: My mother and sister are the only other sane people (and my uncles ex-wife).

And anyone who would spend $30,000 on a stereo system is a ****tard of the highest order. :nod:

[amber]

My friend Jon goes skiing which he says is great because no one is on the mountain on Christmas day! Last year I vowed to go away over the holiday but I didn't do that, too many financial pitfalls this year, AHHHHGGGRRR!!!
:] :]
Really? I think here, everyone goes skiing in Tahoe for Xmas. I'm suprised there's no one on your mountain. Yes, you were talking to Diss, but i don't care... :)

[SuzeQuze]

well, i've been slightly sick (cough, sore throat, runny nose) for the past 3 days, due to chainsmoking and drinking for the two weeks before that. since i didn't want to smoke at this time, i've also been trying to quit. There's no way i will quit if I drink. Also, my parents (although they smoke) don't think i smoke, so i can't easily smoke when i'm at their house anyway, and also I can't drink (well, i could, i've gone to the bar down the street before, but why bother?) So, you see how the many forces are conspiring to get me to not smoke and drink? :D My mom quit drinking when she was 25 cause it started giving her headaches. Drank heavily for a few years before that, i think. My dad was an alcoholic, and when i was 8-9, and he wanted to come live with us, my mom said he had to stop drinking (which was why she left in the first place, when i was about 1 1/2.) So he did. So he can't drink anymore. :shrug: I think it's nice my parents don't drink. :D

Sweetie, I hope you feel better soon. I used to smoke and have quit MANY times. This time I have been smoke free for 2 years. All I can say is keep trying. The patch really helped me a lot. And the last time I only needed it for a week, just to keep me from becoming the b*tch from the East.

The same thing happened in my family, I was 11 when my Dad stopped drinking. Unfortunately the parents have divorced and he started drinking again about 5 years ago. But it isn't as bad as it was when I was little.

So I understand what you mean when you say it is nice that your folks don't drink! Have a wonderful holiday, Amber.

[SuzeQuze]

Really? I think here, everyone goes skiing in Tahoe for Xmas. I'm suprised there's no one on your mountain. Yes, you were talking to Diss, but i don't care... :)

LOL, feel free to interject at any time, this is a board after all!
:blob1: :]

[amber]

Sweetie, I hope you feel better soon. I used to smoke and have quit MANY times. This time I have been smoke free for 2 years. All I can say is keep trying. The patch really helped me a lot. And the last time I only needed it for a week, just to keep me from becoming the b*tch from the East.

The same thing happened in my family, I was 11 when my Dad stopped drinking. Unfortunately the parents have divorced and he started drinking again about 5 years ago. But it isn't as bad as it was when I was little.

So I understand what you mean when you say it is nice that your folks don't drink! Have a wonderful holiday, Amber.
THanks. :xoxo: I"m scared to use the patch because it puts nicotine into you again. :shocked: I've tried it before, though. uh, i guess it didn't work. :p
Congrats on quitting!!!!!!

[madformac]

THanks. :xoxo: I"m scared to use the patch because it puts nicotine into you again. :shocked: I've tried it before, though. uh, i guess it didn't work. :p
Congrats on quitting!!!!!!

My father years back used patches and still smoked... :eek: :confused: :shocked:

I don't think thats the concept behind it!!

[SuzeQuze]

I am such a snob at family gatherings. I walk in the house and just think to myself "I am so much better than these people." :laugh: Did you ever see The Myth of Fingerprints? I am exactly like Julianne Moore in that flick. :laugh: My mother and sister are the only other sane people (and my uncles ex-wife).

And anyone who would spend $30,000 on a stereo system is a ****tard of the highest order. :nod:

He had a self esteem problem and got really caught up in ego bullsh*t for which he wound up paying a high price.

And about my family, one of my uncles (by marriage) cheated on my aunt for a while and she found out right before Christmas last year but they were trying to work it out, I wanted to pound him at the party. Another uncle is on drugs and what not, and he is so sleezy and pervy I want to vomit when he talks to me. My aunts have potty mouths (although I can be guilty of that too, it is all about context however) and are just not nice. But there are a couple who are more sane than the others that I really love to see, so I just limit my time with the ones I don't.

None of them went to college and I think that they think I am rich cuz my Mom has a big mouth and has told them how much money I make. I am not rich by any means though, especially having to pay Boston rent! So there is this undertone of envy. Oh what a mess mess mess!

[amber]

My father years back used patches and still smoked... :eek: :confused: :shocked:

I don't think thats the concept behind it!!
yeah, that happened to me once, too. very dangerous, actually!

[madformac]

yeah, that happened to me once, too. very dangerous, actually!

No ****.... smoking killed him in the end!!!! :shocked:

One of the reasons I don't smoke i guess, subconsciously.. :nod:

[SuzeQuze]

THanks. :xoxo: I"m scared to use the patch because it puts nicotine into you again. :shocked: I've tried it before, though. uh, i guess it didn't work. :p
Congrats on quitting!!!!!!

I used the patch about a dozen times before I finally quit. I was afraid of it too but I finally realized that cigarettes with all of the tar and god knows what other additives are a far greater health risk than the patch. They also cost about the same per day depending on how much you smoke. The patch just took my cigarette craving down from a 10 to like a 3 or 4, much more managable.

The research shows that the more times you try the more likely you are to successfully quit. So just keep trying.

[GypsySorcerer]

Christmas Eve I'll go to the service at my parents' church; then we'll come home and open presents with my maternal grandma. Christmas Day will be spent at my patenal grandparents..... we'll eat, exchange gifts, and then do the bingo gift exchange. Then, of course, I'll listen to my grandparents and great aunt and uncle bash about every racial/ethnic/religious group known to mankind. :woohoo: :rolleyes:

[amber]

I used the patch about a dozen times before I finally quit. I was afraid of it too but I finally realized that cigarettes with all of the tar and god knows what other additives are a far greater health risk than the patch. They also cost about the same per day depending on how much you smoke. The patch just took my cigarette craving down from a 10 to like a 3 or 4, much more managable.

The research shows that the more times you try the more likely you are to successfully quit. So just keep trying.
yeah, i will. The patch is very expensive at once, though, like $40 bucks. I've tried it before. I felt my cravings were worse with the patch. Don't know why that would be, but that's how i felt. :shrug: Actually, now that i'm thinking about the whole thing, I think some kind of aversion therapy would work real well. For instance, i didn't smoke cause my throat was in searing pain. Why can't i get painful electric shocks, or say, something that will make my throat hurt for two weeks straight to keep me from smoking? I'm a giant pain wuss, i know that would work. :shrug:

[madformac]

yeah, i will. The patch is very expensive at once, though, like $40 bucks. I've tried it before. I felt my cravings were worse with the patch. Don't know why that would be, but that's how i felt. :shrug: Actually, now that i'm thinking about the whole thing, I think some kind of aversion therapy would work real well. For instance, i didn't smoke cause my throat was in searing pain. Why can't i get painful electric shocks, or say, something that will make my throat hurt for two weeks straight to keep me from smoking? I'm a giant pain wuss, i know that would work. :shrug:

You ever tried hypnosis? I've known a couple of people it worked for..

[macmar71]

Eat myself into a coma!!! Well, that is usually how I feel after the feasts!!
Just staying home with my small family of mom and two siblings. My sister's boyfriend will be here as well and occassionally, we have neighbors & friends who visit.
After a typical Italian Seafood Christmas Eve supper, we open our gifts. Christmas Day is recovery day we sleep in a little, have fun with our gifts and have another feast of antipasto and lasagna. Desert is a array of cookies, cake and ice cream. And drinks!
Of course, music plays in the background while I cook and eat!
I will get out of work at noon on Christmas Eve and return to work Monday the 27th, so it will be a nice weekend for me. :)

[skcin]

I am such a snob at family gatherings. I walk in the house and just think to myself "I am so much better than these people." :laugh: :nod:

You can't be a snob if you really ARE better than those people - which you obviously are! :xoxo:

[dissention]

Eat myself into a coma!!! Well, that is usually how I feel after the feasts!!

Me, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

Chips and dip, nuts, port wine cheese, candy galore, summer sausage, YOU NAME IT AND I WILL EAT IT.

[amber]

You ever tried hypnosis? I've known a couple of people it worked for..
no. i want to, but it is expensive.

[madformac]

no. i want to, but it is expensive.

You could go for the cheaper route.... Get a big jar, fill it 1/3 full of water and add all your cigarette butts and ash to it... Mix it up and put the lid on... Let it mature a bit then when you get the urge to smoke, open it and take a deep breath.. It will put you right off it.. :nod:

[amber]

You could go for the cheaper route.... Get a big jar, fill it 1/3 full of water and add all your cigarette butts and ash to it... Mix it up and put the lid on... Let it mature a bit then when you get the urge to smoke, open it and take a deep breath.. It will put you right off it.. :nod:
siiiiiiiiccccck!!!!!!! :laugh: you think that would work? when i first started reading, i thought you were gonna end with..."then DRINK IT!" :shocked: seriously, if i could find some way to have my throat in searing pain for like, two weeks, that would totally work.

[madformac]

siiiiiiiiccccck!!!!!!! :laugh: you think that would work? when i first started reading, i thought you were gonna end with..."then DRINK IT!" :shocked: seriously, if i could find some way to have my throat in searing pain for like, two weeks, that would totally work.

Seriously, try doing it.... I've seen it done... It looks disgusting and even looking at it puts some people off...

[amber]

Seriously, try doing it.... I've seen it done... It looks disgusting and even looking at it puts some people off...
so it's the water that does it, right? cause i already have an ashtray like that... :laugh:

[madformac]

so it's the water that does it, right? cause i already have an ashtray like that... :laugh:

:shrug: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[SuzeQuze]

Me, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

Chips and dip, nuts, port wine cheese, candy galore, summer sausage, YOU NAME IT AND I WILL EAT IT.

Same here, I am a huge fan of food. Yesterday I went to my Mom's side and I brought a spinach & artichoke dip in a bread bowl. The bread was Tuscan from here in the North End. It was so good, I want some now! For dinner we had ham and these savory potatoes au gratin (slurp).

[SuzeQuze]

Seriously, try doing it.... I've seen it done... It looks disgusting and even looking at it puts some people off...

Or do your own aversion therapy. Make yourself smoke a whole pack in succession, one after the other. If that doesn't do it, smoke another one. You'll quit when you're ready. It is really hard, I know!

[dissention]

Same here, I am a huge fan of food. Yesterday I went to my Mom's side and I brought a spinach & artichoke dip in a bread bowl. The bread was Tuscan from here in the North End. It was so good, I want some now! For dinner we had ham and these savory potatoes au gratin (slurp).

Evil bitch troll from hell. :laugh: I am sooooooooooooooooo jealous. :xoxo:

[macmar71]

Me, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

Chips and dip, nuts, port wine cheese, candy galore, summer sausage, YOU NAME IT AND I WILL EAT IT.




LOL!!! :D
Swiss Colony Rules!!!

[amber]

Or do your own aversion therapy. Make yourself smoke a whole pack in succession, one after the other. If that doesn't do it, smoke another one. You'll quit when you're ready. It is really hard, I know!
welcome to last week! Thus, my ensuing throat problems...Plus, that seems dumb to smoke a billion cigarettes to stop myself from smoking cigarettes. :D

[dissention]

Plus, that seems dumb to smoke a billion cigarettes to stop myself from smoking cigarettes. :D

And smoking one cigarette isn't dumb? :laugh:

[amber]

And smoking one cigarette isn't dumb? :laugh:
I'm sure you can understand the distinction at this point, for someone who is already addicted to cigarettes...every cigarette is dumb, it just seems extra counterproductive to smoke more in order to smoke less. Also? Happy Assmunchmas!!! :xoxo: *giggle*

[madformac]

welcome to last week! Thus, my ensuing throat problems...Plus, that seems dumb to smoke a billion cigarettes to stop myself from smoking cigarettes. :D

You need to replace smoking with a substitute to keep you busy (clean answers please! :laugh: ) I know chewing gum doesn't really work too well, but every time you reach to put one in your mouth (again no funnies, I'm talking about cigarettes) just stop and think "I'll just miss smoking this one" and keep doing it..

Just going off topic for a moment I'm listening to Sisters Of The Moon from Oakland 1982 right now and Lindsey has just dedicated it to his mother and two brothers.. "Couldn't have done it without you"... Interesting....

[amber]

I'm sure you can understand the distinction at this point, for someone who is already addicted to cigarettes...every cigarette is dumb, it just seems extra counterproductive to smoke more in order to smoke less. Also? Happy Assmunchmas!!! :xoxo: *giggle*
oops, sorry, I meant Merry Assmunchmas!

[amber]

You need to replace smoking with a substitute to keep you busy (clean answers please! :laugh: ) I know chewing gum doesn't really work too well, but every time you reach to put one in your mouth (again no funnies, I'm talking about cigarettes) just stop and think "I'll just miss smoking this one" and keep doing it..

Just going off topic for a moment I'm listening to Sisters Of The Moon from Oakland 1982 right now and Lindsey has just dedicated it to his mother and two brothers.. "Couldn't have done it without you"... Interesting....
Yeah, with the five minute intro. I listen to that one all the time, it's my main live version. It rocks/kicks ass. I am, of course, disappointed that Lindsey gets to sing in it, but that's the way of the world. His guitar kicks massive ass, though.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Well, on Christmas Eve my Dad and I usually go to a family style Italian restaurant and join my aunt and uncle and 3 first cousins and my 2 little cousins are also there.
I only exchange with the little ones. I don't know where we are going just yet. I liked the place that we went to a few years ago because they had KILLER Bruschetta! :blob2:

We eat and have a few laughs and then I go home with Dad for awhile and get my other gifts ready for my friends.

I go over to one of my friends (Kim) house and we exchange gifts and then head to another friend's (Donna) place for open house. We exchange with her and we get to eat some more. :blob2:


Then I go back home and most likely wrap whatever of my Dad's gifts that I did not wrap yet. :eek:

Then Christmas morrning my Dad and I exchange gifts. I will most likely have this look on my face when I get my Dad's gifts :confused: but I really just love to give.
We eat our turkey and then I take my nap and that evening I go over to my friend's (Kim again) house and hang with her family for awhile.

[SuzeQuze]

Evil bitch troll from hell. :laugh: I am sooooooooooooooooo jealous. :xoxo:

:laugh: :laugh: :p

[sara1998]

Yesterday I was looking into going out to Arizona to visit a friend, but after I seen the rates for Sara and I both round trip, I about gagged. So, I guess I'm stuck here again. My parents are coming over Christmas Eve to open gifts. Sara and I will be here Christmas morning and most of the day so we can play with her toys, then were going to my grandma's for dinner and gifts. That's about the extent of it. I wanted so bad to go to Arizona, but I can't see spending $1000 on plane tickets for a 5 day stay. :shocked:

Maria

[Mari]

I'll be going to London for 4 days :blob2: :blob1: (with mum, well, you can't have everything ;) )(jk!)
Which means that on my thirtieth birthday (dec. 24), I'll wake up in London :thumbsup:

[ontheEdgeof17]

I'll be going to London for 4 days :blob2: :blob1: (with mum, well, you can't have everything ;) )(jk!)
Which means that on my thirtieth birthday (dec. 24), I'll wake up in London :thumbsup:


It's my dream to travel during the holidays in Europe. I know I always have a few places to stay if I ever do....hint hint Mari, Gaius, and you UKers. :woohoo:

[skcin]

siiiiiiiiccccck!!!!!!! :laugh: you think that would work? when i first started reading, i thought you were gonna end with..."then DRINK IT!" :shocked: seriously, if i could find some way to have my throat in searing pain for like, two weeks, that would totally work.

Gross, but that just might work. The smell of a wet cig in a garbage can is one of the worst smells I can think of, and this would be many times worse.

Good luck this time, Amber. And remember what I told you (the last time you quit, lol): after 72 hours, it's all in your head, baby! Not smoking cuz your sick is the perfect excuse to never start up again. Be strong! :angel:

[Mari]

It's my dream to travel during the holidays in Europe. I know I always have a few places to stay if I ever do....hint hint Mari, Gaius, and you UKers. :woohoo:

:laugh: :laugh: That's allright, just remember that I live as far away from main tourist attraction Amsterdam as you can be within this country ;)

[ontheEdgeof17]

:laugh: :laugh: That's allright, just remember that I live as far away from main tourist attraction Amsterdam as you can be within this country ;)


No worries. I'm used to living in BFE. :( A holiday in the middle of nowhere would feel like home. :lol:

[face of glass]

It's my dream to travel during the holidays in Europe. I know I always have a few places to stay if I ever do....hint hint Mari, Gaius, and you UKers. :woohoo:
Trust me, the area I live in Finland isn't much to write home to. http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/962.gif <- (me being green with envy, or something of the sort).

[AliceLover]

Ah, Christmas Day. This will no doubt be the occasion that my body decides it wants to catch up on the sleep missed from six months of sleep deprivation. I will be overruled by my chummy pal dad, who shall physically force me out of bed, make me sit at the non-existent tree and watch him gleefully open his presents to himself as he hands me my annual meaningless $2 gift. The two of us shall then sit there awkwardly for a few minutes as we wonder if that was what all the fuss was about. I then resume awkward small-talk which will be spoken too fast, too slow, too high, too low, or generally just be wrong.

The two chums will then sit down for some food. I'll be asked how much I'd like, to which I'll respond "just a small bit of turkey please", and proceed to have a giant ****load dumped on my plate. I'll spend the rest of the day either moaning with a bucket and being cursed at for spoiling the day, or just being cursed at for not magically expanding the size of my stomach for the occasion. Then the Queen will say something about what a memorable year it has been, as my father forces me to get in the pool because he's hot. But before that can happen I'll shut the gate incorrectly and be forced back inside to think about what I've done. On my way back to the house I'll thank the Lord that he was born on this day (or that someone marked it in as this day) so that I could spend it with my alone like this with my father. Then I'll take some valium and I forget what happens after that.

I shall be looking forward to it.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[amber]

Ah, Christmas Day. This will no doubt be the occasion that my body decides it wants to catch up on the sleep missed from six months of sleep deprivation. I will be overruled by my chummy pal dad, who shall physically force me out of bed, make me sit at the non-existent tree and watch him gleefully open his presents to himself as he hands me my annual meaningless $2 gift. The two of us shall then sit there awkwardly for a few minutes as we wonder if that was what all the fuss was about. I then resume awkward small-talk which will be spoken too fast, too slow, too high, too low, or generally just be wrong.

The two chums will then sit down for some food. I'll be asked how much I'd like, to which I'll respond "just a small bit of turkey please", and proceed to have a giant ****load dumped on my plate. I'll spend the rest of the day either moaning with a bucket and being cursed at for spoiling the day, or just being cursed at for not magically expanding the size of my stomach for the occasion. Then the Queen will say something about what a memorable year it has been, as my father forces me to get in the pool because he's hot. But before that can happen I'll shut the gate incorrectly and be forced back inside to think about what I've done. On my way back to the house I'll thank the Lord that he was born on this day (or that someone marked it in as this day) so that I could spend it with my alone like this with my father. Then I'll take some valium and I forget what happens after that.

I shall be looking forward to it.
*giggle* :laugh:

[wondergirl9847]

I'll be going to London for 4 days :blob2: :blob1: (with mum, well, you can't have everything ;) )(jk!)
Which means that on my thirtieth birthday (dec. 24), I'll wake up in London :thumbsup:

I hope to be going back within the next year and a half. Enjoy your birthday in London!! Happy (early) birthday!! :woohoo:

[Mari]

I hope to be going back within the next year and a half. Enjoy your birthday in London!! Happy (early) birthday!! :woohoo:

thank you! :woohoo:
This will be a great one :)

Ah, another London-fan?

[wondergirl9847]

Ah, another London-fan?

I went for 3 weeks last year. Best trip I've ever taken. Being there during the Christmas season was really awesome too. I've been obsessed with England since I was a kid, so going there last year was a dream come true. :)

Have fun!

[Mari]

ok, I won't tell you then how many times I've been there (it's only 45 minutes flying) ;)
But this will be my first christmas there, looking forward a lot, good to hear you liked it!

[wondergirl9847]

ok, I won't tell you then how many times I've been there (it's only 45 minutes flying) ;)

That would make a difference in how many times I would have gone as well. LOL 8-10 hours on a plane...SUCKS. 45 minutes...I can deal. :)

[Livia]

ok, I won't tell you then how many times I've been there (it's only 45 minutes flying) ;)
But this will be my first christmas there, looking forward a lot, good to hear you liked it!

I adore London during the holidays - it's so Dickens-ish! :thumbsup:

[madformac]

It's pretty cold in the UK right now.... I left to walk to work at 8:30 this morning (after just 2 hours sleep due to the Dolphins-Patriots game on tv until 5:30am.. it was worth it!! :nod: )

It was totally misty and as I walked along the driveway it looked exactly like the Mac Bare Trees album cover.... Very cool and serene.. :)

[amber]

It's pretty cold in the UK right now.... I left to walk to work at 8:30 this morning (after just 2 hours sleep due to the Dolphins-Patriots game on tv until 5:30am.. it was worth it!! :nod: )

It was totally misty and as I walked along the driveway it looked exactly like the Mac Bare Trees album cover.... Very cool and serene.. :)
cooooool...by the way, have you considered taping the games? Also? I think it's weird that an English guy loves American Football... :woohoo:

[madformac]

cooooool...by the way, have you considered taping the games? Also? I think it's weird that an English guy loves American Football... :woohoo:

Yeah but taping is not real for me... Live action, it has to be live to be real... Otherwise I'll read about it first then not bother watching the tape...

I used to play American Football over here in my more youthful days as a running back... Until I first dislocated three vertebrae in my spine (twisted them 180 degrees and they locked backwards :shocked: and I was a very lucky chap.. Then I came back and did some severe ligament and tendon damage to my right ankle on turf when I got knocked around by 270 degrees and my foot didn't!! Ouch!!! ) I get reminded of this one every time it gets cold... I need to move to a warmer climate.. :nod:

I've been into the sport since I saw my first game on tv in 1983.. The first team I saw were the Dolphins and so thats where my annual December depression started! :laugh: :laugh:

[skcin]

Ah, Christmas Day. This will no doubt be the occasion that my body decides it wants to catch up on the sleep missed from six months of sleep deprivation. I will be overruled by my chummy pal dad, who shall physically force me out of bed, make me sit at the non-existent tree and watch him gleefully open his presents to himself as he hands me my annual meaningless $2 gift. The two of us shall then sit there awkwardly for a few minutes as we wonder if that was what all the fuss was about. I then resume awkward small-talk which will be spoken too fast, too slow, too high, too low, or generally just be wrong.

The two chums will then sit down for some food. I'll be asked how much I'd like, to which I'll respond "just a small bit of turkey please", and proceed to have a giant ****load dumped on my plate. I'll spend the rest of the day either moaning with a bucket and being cursed at for spoiling the day, or just being cursed at for not magically expanding the size of my stomach for the occasion. Then the Queen will say something about what a memorable year it has been, as my father forces me to get in the pool because he's hot. But before that can happen I'll shut the gate incorrectly and be forced back inside to think about what I've done. On my way back to the house I'll thank the Lord that he was born on this day (or that someone marked it in as this day) so that I could spend it with my alone like this with my father. Then I'll take some valium and I forget what happens after that.

I shall be looking forward to it.

My, my, your Christmas sounds even better than Diss' :sorry:

[amber]

Yeah but taping is not real for me... Live action, it has to be live to be real... Otherwise I'll read about it first then not bother watching the tape...

I used to play American Football over here in my more youthful days as a running back... Until I first dislocated three vertebrae in my spine (twisted them 180 degrees and they locked backwards :shocked: and I was a very lucky chap.. Then I came back and did some severe ligament and tendon damage to my right ankle on turf when I got knocked around by 270 degrees and my foot didn't!! Ouch!!! ) I get reminded of this one every time it gets cold... I need to move to a warmer climate.. :nod:

I've been into the sport since I saw my first game on tv in 1983.. The first team I saw were the Dolphins and so thats where my annual December depression started! :laugh: :laugh:
Ah, I hear ya. I can't believe your injuries. Football is so heinous that way. I hope my theoretical son never wants to play. :shocked: Geez, it practically sounds like you're lucky you lived! :eek: Or should i say, we're lucky? ;)

[MirrorInTheSky]

Anyone else's family spending Christmas day at the fire station with their dad, or is that just me?

[SuzeQuze]

My dad said I could bring Mufasa so now I am kind of excited! My dad has a ****zu so it will be interesting to see how my cat and he get along. They're about the same size!

[madformac]

Ah, I hear ya. I can't believe your injuries. Football is so heinous that way. I hope my theoretical son never wants to play.


Yes it's a tough sport but the mentality over here is that it's a sissy sport "because they wear pads" :shocked: :rolleyes:

Yeah right... Unlike soccer where they fall over as if they were shot with the slightest scuffed shin...



Geez, it practically sounds like you're lucky you lived! :eek: Or should i say, we're lucky?

Haha, yes go on... Massage my ego again.... :xoxo: :laugh:


Right..... I have a second occupation for you amber... After I awarded you the title of a "random observationalist" yesterday, today I'm appointing you my "personal ego masseuse" :nod: :laugh: It's a full time position and you have to praise me at any given opportunity OK? :blob2: :p :laugh:

[amber]

Yes it's a tough sport but the mentality over here is that it's a sissy sport "because they wear pads" :shocked: :rolleyes:

Yeah right... Unlike soccer where they fall over as if they were shot with the slightest scuffed shin...




Haha, yes go on... Massage my ego again.... :laugh:


Right..... I have a second occupation for you amber... After I awarded you the title of a "random observationalist" yesterday, today I'm appointing you my "personal ego masseuse" :nod: :laugh: It's a full time position and you have to praise me at any given opportunity OK? :blob2: :laugh:
:laugh:
No prob!!! I assume this is a paid position. :woohoo:
Laughing at your jokes will be the easy part of the job. ;)

[amber]

Anyone else's family spending Christmas day at the fire station with their dad, or is that just me?
Really? so, i assume your dad has to work that day? That's kind of interesting. It's nice of you guys to go there to be with him. :)

[The Tower]

YOU NAME IT AND I WILL EAT IT.

You better be careful in what circles you make that statement, my boy...

;) :laugh: :sorry: (I couldn't resist)


You need to replace smoking with a substitute to keep you busy (clean answers please! :laugh: )

I'm sooooooo tempted. But, I will honor your request.....

:laugh: :laugh:

[MirrorInTheSky]

Really? so, i assume your dad has to work that day? That's kind of interesting. It's nice of you guys to go there to be with him. :)

Yup. I was there last Thanksgiving, too. It's not so bad...hanging out with all of those uniformed men...Merry Christmas indeed!

[amber]

You better be careful in what circles you make that statement, my boy...

;) :laugh: :sorry: (I couldn't resist)




I'm sooooooo tempted. But, I will honor your request.....

:laugh: :laugh:
Darn! You little tease....

[madformac]

:laugh:
No prob!!! I assume this is a paid position. :woohoo:


It's a voluntary position, those in need of help require volunteers to offer their services and I'm all on my own this xmas (all together now... "awwww" :laugh: )



Laughing at your jokes will be the easy part of the job. ;)

Yes, thats a good start.. :D First bit of praise there in the new role... :blob2: :lol:

[amber]

Yup. I was there last Thanksgiving, too. It's not so bad...hanging out with all of those uniformed men...Merry Christmas indeed!
Oh, yeah...Firemen are hot, i had forgotten! *licks lips salaciously*

[wondergirl9847]

Yes it's a tough sport but the mentality over here is that it's a sissy sport "because they wear pads" :shocked: :rolleyes:

Yes, and if they didn't wear pads, we wouldn't have American football and would have more bodies six feet under. :shocked: Ask Michael Irvin why pads should be worn in football. :distress:

[madformac]

Oh, yeah...Firemen are hot, i had forgotten! *licks lips salaciously*

Yeah I've heard about that thing with firemen.... It's all about their shiny helmets and hoses I believe... :D

[amber]

It's a voluntary position, those in need of help require volunteers to offer their services and I'm all on my own this xmas (all together now... "awwww" :laugh: )




Yes, thats a good start.. :D First bit of praise there in the new role... :blob2: :lol:
awwww! um, so...do I even get tips? It's hard to keep the compliments going when i'm thinking "this guy's a cheapskate!" :laugh: :laugh: Just kidding. :xoxo: Money's the furthest thing from my wallet...I mean, mind.

[madformac]

Yes, and if they didn't wear pads, we wouldn't have American football and would have more bodies six feet under. :shocked: Ask Michael Irvin why pads should be worn in football. :distress:

"Rugby" is the sport that the English assume is the toughest but all I ever did when I played it at school was get muddy and cold... Yes it's pretty tough but the rate of serious injuries is much lower due to the fact they can only tackle up to the waist.. I get tired of defending American Football to the uneducated over here... It's either "girly" or "I don't understand the rules, it's sooo complicated" :rolleyes:

[Livia]

Anyone else's family spending Christmas day at the fire station with their dad, or is that just me?

Oooh, firemen! :thumbsup:

[wondergirl9847]

I get tired of defending American Football to the uneducated over here... It's either "girly" or "I don't understand the rules, it's sooo complicated" :rolleyes:

If an American girl can learn the rules of football, so can English boys. Hee!! ;)

I don't know how to play blackjack, but I can surely learn. When I do, I'll go to Vegas and win big money!! LOL

[WelshWitchPMD]

It's pretty cold in the UK right now.... I left to walk to work at 8:30 this morning (after just 2 hours sleep due to the Dolphins-Patriots game on tv until 5:30am.. it was worth it!! :nod: )




Yeah the game ended pretty late even over here. Brady blew it. My Dad couldn't stop talking about it. I was like OK whatever. :rolleyes:

[WelshWitchPMD]

I found out where the family is going Xmas Eve. No Bruschetta :(

It's OK but I better bring some TUMS! Some mints,too :rolleyes:

[amber]

Hey don't slam Rugby, the original game. I've never watched a full game of American football. I've just seen it when it was on the television when I was in the US, and I've seen enough snippets to realise what I hate about it. I hate the commercial aspect of it. It seems to be played around add breaks and is like a piece of theatre. It's like everyone has an incredibly short attention span or just enjoys having a seizure. I'll admit rugby has become more commercial in recent years, but the extent to which is not comparable with football (soccer) and American football. Compared to most popular sports these days, rugby is much more genuine in it's approach as a sport, not a piece of entertainment. Rugby is the gentleman's game but as for American football being girly, well yeah, there's a bit of that. I think Jonah Lomu in his day could trample over any American football player in their day. If it weren't sweltering here at the moment I'd be wearing my English Rose jersey......or my All Blacks jersey depending on my mood. Strangely enough I don't actually like sport, but I do love rugby, or maybe it's just the Haka.
You've pretty much nailed the essence of America, ie, the commercials and our attention span. However, football is far from girly. I see your point about rugby being more genuine as a sport, not entertainment. But, without the entertainment, football would be just as good a sport and exceedingly difficult. Not to mention, dangerous, dangerous, brutal, dangerous. These men (and women - yes, there is women's football) are exceptional athletes. :wavey: so, that said, i actually don't like to watch football at all. But it was part of the season growing up (baseball, basketball, football, always, forever, ad nauseum, in my house) so i've seen a good amount.

[sara1998]

Bring on the football!!

GO COLTS!

[tuigirl]

... I need to move to a warmer climate.. :nod: :


yes, you do :xoxo: ...but first you need to change from your dead-end job and get somewhere that appreciates you (oh, and earns you lots of dosh...)

[skcin]

You've pretty much nailed the essence of America, ie, the commercials and our attention span. However, football is far from girly. I see your point about rugby being more genuine as a sport, not entertainment. But, without the entertainment, football would be just as good a sport and exceedingly difficult. Not to mention, dangerous, dangerous, brutal, dangerous. These men (and women - yes, there is women's football) are exceptional athletes. :wavey: so, that said, i actually don't like to watch football at all. But it was part of the season growing up (baseball, basketball, football, always, forever, ad nauseum, in my house) so i've seen a good amount.

Yeah, it is pretty commercial but that doesn't mean the players don't play hard. It's not like the games are scripted.

That being said, I LOVE AMERICAN FOOTBALL! Have since my dad first got season tix to the Bills games when I was around 12 or 13. I saw the greatest comeback in NFL history, as well as the first time the Bills made the playoffs & all the fans rushed the field & tore down the goal posts. Ahhh, the memories... :]

My bro & dad even went to one of the Superbowls - not that I'm bitter or anything. :distress:

GO BILLS!

[madformac]

Hey don't slam Rugby, the original game. I've never watched a full game of American football. I've just seen it when it was on the television when I was in the US, and I've seen enough snippets to realise what I hate about it. I hate the commercial aspect of it.

I don't recall my post actually slamming rugby, I just said the English assume it's the toughest sport.. I played both sports in my younger days and by far gridiron was the more brutal and dangerous in my opinion... I do agree about the commercial aspect of the sport though, it is a little bit over the top and 3 hours to get 60 minutes of play in is probably a little bit self indulgent..

:wavey:

[madformac]

You've pretty much nailed the essence of America, ie, the commercials and our attention span.

It's the MTV culture... All quick images, cut together... Snippets of music, heroes and villains..

It's the same with pop music.. No meaningful songs anymore.. Just 3 minute quick tunes before the attention deficit kicks in..

[madformac]

yes, you do :xoxo: ...but first you need to change from your dead-end job and get somewhere that appreciates you (oh, and earns you lots of dosh...)

Yeah well at the rate things are going I'll be changing careers quite soon....

Somewhere that appreciates me? Well Seteca keeps telling me I should move to London but it's still too cold!!! Need somewhere the water is warmer than the drinks... :nod: :laugh: